IRC log for #wowace on 20161213

00:07.36nevcairieldamnit Torhal, cant even put my own file on hold to check if the packager did  not screw it up again before you approve it already, got nothing else to do?!? :P
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00:13.13nebulanevcairiel: http://i.imgur.com/DdwPRBQ.jpg
00:13.23nevcairieli am on there
00:13.45nevcairielbut for some stupid reason it registers files as coming from the project owner instead of the actual person doing the build
00:13.56nebulai see
00:15.30nevcairielbut it seems the file works
00:15.42nevcairieleven if its like 100 kb smaller then older files
00:15.44nevcairielfor reasons
00:19.01Stanzillazip compression
00:34.40nevcairielstill made me suspicious which is why i ventured to the control panel to hold it, but by the time i  validated my latest ip address it was too late .D
00:54.32GnarfozI think I might have gotten carried away a bit 01:53:24|Auditor: Spent 469581.1g (AH) :D
00:55.52Stanzillaxmas shopping?
00:56.07GnarfozI should get on that
00:57.04nevcairielwhat did you buy for 470k g
00:59.04Gnarfozjust crafting mats :|
00:59.26Gnarfozgotta make all that azshari salad
00:59.28GnarfozALL of it
00:59.58nevcairiel470k worth of azshari salad?
01:00.09nevcairielgoing to feed your entire realm? ...with salad?
01:00.11nevcairielyou monster
01:00.25Gnarfozshould be worth a bit more when it's turned into azshari salad
01:00.38Stanzillashit's expensive
01:00.48StanzillaI think I spend around 700k each week for guild bank stuff
01:01.07nevcairieli have rank 3 on all cooking recipes, are you saying i should start cashing in on that
01:01.13Gnarfozon all oO
01:01.16Gnarfozhow the fuck
01:01.25nevcairiel(all relevant ones, all large meals and delicacies)
01:01.35StanzillaI have rank 3 on 1 :D
01:01.36nevcairielalthough not that many missing
01:02.02quiescenso.o
01:02.23Gnarfozwhat did you bribe Nomi with
01:02.34Gnarfozhm. I'm out of space. lol
01:02.42Stanzillaour raid lead has all the large ones on 3 too
01:02.44Stanzillasuper cheat
01:03.41nevcairielhttp://i.imgur.com/rVcAAs0.jpg
01:03.43nevcairielshrugs
01:04.06StanzillaLOL
01:05.19Stanzillamine http://i.imgur.com/CzFlF2j.png
01:05.30Stanzillanote how I am missing one recipe completely
01:05.44nevcairieltwo actually
01:05.54nevcairielwait, three
01:06.07nevcairielyeah 3
01:06.16Stanzilla:/
01:06.38nevcairieli got lucky early on, since 7.1 or so i have only rarely gotten something
01:07.57nevcairielspeaking of cooking, not sure why light meals even exist though, they are so pointless
01:08.05Stanzillasame for feasts
01:08.21nevcairielat least the feasts grant primary stat which may or may not be valueable
01:08.57Stanzillaprobably not for any class in Legion
01:09.00nevcairielbut they cost just so much
01:10.00nevcairiela s ingle salad for 120 gold, do people actually buy this
01:10.07Gnarfozdefinitely
01:10.27Gnarfozthere's a reason I even had 470k to spend
01:10.57nevcairieli should get an addon that calculates the material cost to make something from  AH price, thats not the crazyness thats TSM
01:11.21GnarfozI just have a spreadsheet :D
01:11.39Gnarfozalso, I've sold 24338 Azshari Salad since I started that, it seems
01:12.01Stanzillathat is impressive
01:12.19nebulai remember skillet having a plugin for that
01:13.02Gnarfozwhat do y'all do with all this Shal'dorei silk?
01:14.06nevcairielhm 840 gold for herbs for 10 salads
01:14.13nevcairielnot that huge of a margin as i might have imagined
01:15.11StanzillaI have a bot whisper me when there are cheap herbs on our AH
01:15.13Stanzillaand runes
01:15.18Gnarfozo_o
01:15.28Gnarfozwtf m8
01:15.44Stanzillaneed to save them goldz?
01:18.02Stanzillanot a wow bot btw
01:18.05Stanzillaapi can bot
01:18.09Stanzilla*s
01:18.53GnarfozI should try and sell the item needed to finish WQs instantly, lol
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01:36.58Torhalnevcairiel The packager was written before the new repo system existed, so there was no way to actually tie a build to an account. Now that there is, I made a ticket to change that behavior.
01:37.24TorhalAs for the quick moderation, that's kinda what I do. :P
01:39.34Funkeh`packager was probably written 5 years ago by now
01:40.04TorhalAlmost three now IIRC.
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01:45.58StanzillaTorhal: when are devs going to work on the new platform again? mid january?
01:46.28quiescensanother new one?
01:46.30Torhal¯\_(ツ)_/¯
01:46.40Torhalcrumbles quiescens.
01:46.43quiescensdies.
01:47.11Stanzillawhy dont you know
01:51.48TorhalBecause I'm not on that team.
01:51.52TorhalSilly Stanzilla.
01:52.04StanzillaI thought you talk to those people
01:52.51Gnarfoztalking to people, who even does that
01:53.30Torhal"So, hey guys - I was wondering, what exactly are you all up to? And what's next?"
01:53.39Torhal:P
01:54.51Stanzilla"whats the timeline for project x" is not that weird?
01:55.29StanzillaI thought you care about it, too :p
01:55.32TorhalSure it is. This is software we're talking about. The only people who believe in getting an accurate answer are managers.
01:55.57TorhalWhat I do know is they're dismantling the old site and are shooting for end-of-year.
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01:56.13Stanzillawhich year
01:56.17TorhalBeyond that, no clue other than working on tickets.
01:56.22Stanzillameh
01:56.28Torhal2020 Stanzilla, you're the one who predicted that.
01:56.38quiescenso.o
01:56.54Stanzillagood.
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01:57.10quiescensgives Stanzilla a cookie
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02:01.34Megalonhey my little munchkins <3
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02:27.53pompy"Unless you catch 'hackers' in the act, it is very hard to determine who  was doing the hacking. Why wasn't this brought up before election?" -  Donald Trump.
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02:46.45quiescenso.o
02:48.16Megalondid he tweet that?
02:54.27StanzillaI just found the missing sock
02:54.39Stanzillathen I figured out it was another sock, not the one actually missing from a pair
02:54.44Stanzillaso now I have two solo socks :<
02:54.52quiescens):
02:54.57quiescens/pat stan
02:55.15Megalondon't molest your socks man
03:03.48nebulaTorhal: is there a way to disable showing the max amount in broker_currency? it's not like that shit changes.
03:04.20Torhalnebula: I'll add an option - should have actually done that yesterday.
03:04.34nebuladanke
03:08.14Stanzilladankhal
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03:48.17Megalonsuch tor, much dank, so hal, wow
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04:47.02Myrroddinnarf
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04:53.56Myrroddinnerf Torhal
04:54.12Torhal~lart Myrroddin
04:54.12purldecapitates Myrroddin conan the destroyer style
04:54.47Myrroddinwell, if you are going to get decapitated, I suppose that's a good enough way
05:10.15Fiskerokay Stanzilla
05:15.48Myrroddinsigh. that was expected. still doesn't exist: https://repos.wowace.com/wow/smartres2-chat-module/trunk
05:22.03Megalonit's in the Fiskertinuum
05:22.12Megalonin a state of znf
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08:29.17Phixionmorning
08:29.24Megalonmornings
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09:20.43Phixionhow many mornings?
09:22.03Fisker4-7
09:29.53MegalonOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONE MIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILLION
09:30.01Phixionhey Fisker
09:31.10Fiskerhey Phixion
09:31.50quiescenso.o
09:33.23Megalonall those heys and counterheys
09:33.33Megalonit's a heypocalypse
09:34.05Phixionbetter than cookies
10:33.02Myrroddinnoms cookies
10:34.05Phixionhey Myrroddin
10:34.19Myrroddinhello Phixion
10:35.40Myrroddinwhat's new and exciting? different cookies today?
10:40.06PhixionI heard rumours quiescens is serving onion/garlic cookies today
10:43.08Megalonhttp://farm7.static.flickr.com/6194/6123638002_d4580f152c.jpg yum!
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10:46.49Phixionmmm
10:48.09MyrroddinI just watched John Wick. just as good as people say
10:48.15quiescenspew
10:49.24Myrroddin.... checks if wowace is still broken... yep
10:49.27nevcairieli didnt like the first one that much, dont like the actor
10:51.08nevcairieland wowace works fine
10:51.52Myrroddinuh, no, wowace is not working fine. i can't pull from my repo, can't import translations with replace existing...
10:52.19nevcairielits your inability to use the  system, not the system being broken =p
10:54.43Myrroddinimpressive customer service, there
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10:57.39nevcairielI don't work for curse :)
10:57.59nevcairieland its true, your repository is fine
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10:58.52nevcairielyou just need to create the basic structure in it, like with any empty svn repo
11:00.14MyrroddinI can't do that. TSVN - Checkout errors with URL not existing.
11:00.51Myrroddinunless there is something on the repo on the website I need to do. if there is, I don't know what
11:01.36nevcairielsvn repos are created entirely empty, without  anything in them, even without the trunk,tags,branches folders, so you need to make those
11:02.29Myrroddinon the project site, in settings? still not seeing said options
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11:02.50nevcairielno, through an svn client
11:03.08nevcairielyou are trying to access a trunk folder which doesnt exist
11:03.13nevcairielso create it
11:05.08nevcairielmaybe Torhal can put in a ticket to create that trunk/tags/branches layout automatically on new repositories instead of having authors do that, since the packager kinda expects that to be used anyway
11:05.25TorhalAlready have one.
11:05.59quiescenstorhal can fix everything \o/
11:06.09TorhalNot quite.
11:06.10Myrroddinokay, i went to google.. found https://tortoisesvn.net/docs/nightly/TortoiseSVN_en/tsvn-repository.html
11:06.17quiescensgives torhal a cookie
11:06.32Myrroddini'm reading the create repository stuff
11:06.43nevcairielone should always keep in mind that trunk/tags etc are just directories in a svn repo
11:06.48nevcairielthey have no special magic
11:06.51nevcairielthey are a convention
11:06.54nevcairielnot a feature
11:07.04Megalonso like comic con, but different?
11:07.23nevcairielso access the r oot of the repository instead (without trunk), and create those convention folders from there
11:07.38MyrroddinMegalon more like an oven, but different
11:08.02Myrroddinno, wait. that's "convection" ...
11:09.29TorhalI apparently need to start disabling -nolib creation so I stop getting bug reports due to the client being fucky.
11:09.49nevcairielor write angry internal mails? :)
11:10.10TorhalOr that.
11:15.36Myrroddinthe instructions for creating the working folder and subfolders are not easy to follow
11:16.04Myrroddinone more reason I miss the old site. did this kind of thing automatically
11:16.57quiescens):
11:17.28Megaloni just type stuff into my git thing until stuff happens without errors
11:18.08TorhalYou mean, like rm -rf ~/ right?
11:19.58Megalongotta read those mails really fast
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11:25.01Myrroddinomg, i blundered my way into fixing it. TSVN - repo browser - create folder ( x3, tags, branches, trunk)
11:25.13quiescens\o/
11:25.33Myrroddinthat was entirely unplanned, and just throwing darts until something worked
11:28.19Myrroddinman, i need a brandy and a cigar for figuring this out
11:28.27Myrroddinand a whole jar of cookies
11:45.02Phixion> ~/
11:45.12Megalon><<<~/>
11:45.17Phixionhacker
11:45.30PhixionMegahax
11:45.33Megalonthat's phishing
11:45.41Phixionpishion
11:45.44Phixionph
11:46.30hasteI like how they show up as green here :D
11:46.48Megalonwho
11:46.57Phixionthe quote > ?
11:46.57hastethe fish!
11:47.00Phixionoh
11:47.13hasteI convert every line that starts with > to green text :D
11:47.17hastebest IRC feature
11:47.40Phixiondepends
11:48.02Megalon4chat chat
11:48.05hasteit ranks above being able to input text!
11:48.12Phixion:D
11:48.27Phixionwas about to claim this to be the best feature
11:48.41hasteMy clairvoyance saw that one coming
11:48.59Phixion:D
11:49.57Myrroddinnow that my source folders woes are done, i need to solve why the module options are not showing up in the core addon
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11:57.50Myrroddinnevcairiel you wer correct, i didn't know how to use the system. i learned, however. i was used to the old system creating the folders automatically
11:58.20Myrroddins/wer/were
12:26.21Myrroddinbe back soon. going to store, rebooting computer. I'm taking cookies to nom on while i'm gone
12:26.31Myrroddinnoms cookies while gone
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13:30.41Myrroddinbuffs cookies
13:31.01quiescens\o/
13:32.15Myrroddinputs rocket fuel into cookies
13:33.40TorhalServers are still down. Thanks, Myrroddin!
13:34.19Myrroddinthat's because the Horde are in charge of tech support
13:39.33pompyTorhal: they are up now
13:39.51TorhalThat's because Myrroddin didn't want me to cut him.
13:39.56Myrroddinblames Torhal and the Horde
13:40.12Myrroddincuts Torhal's hair
13:40.19Phixionblames Torhal's beard
13:40.44Torhalcuts Myrroddin's cookies with cocaine.
13:40.56Myrroddindamn.....
13:41.01PhixionI'd take a few then
13:41.15Myrroddinhere, quiescens try these cookies out tell me if they taste like candy
13:42.25Myrroddinsends Torhal on a world quest to bring me cookies
13:42.37TorhalFuck that; code trumps cookies.
13:43.19TorhalTrumps Myrroddin's cookies.
13:43.21Torhal>.>
13:43.51MyrroddinNomi trumps all things Torhal
13:47.55Torhalgives Myrroddin's cookies to Nomi.
13:48.37Myrroddinnooooooooooooooooooooo
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14:27.57Myrroddinnerfs Torhal's secondary stats
14:30.16Torhalbuffs Myrroddin's venereal stats.
14:31.57Myrroddinit's over 9000!!!
14:32.04Myrroddinoh wait, hang on...
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14:48.39znfRessy, what time is it there?
15:08.54Ressy10:08am
15:09.19RessyBeen busy with work, and the internet here's been flaky.
15:16.07znflol http://orig05.deviantart.net/1c7f/f/2016/346/9/0/putin_s_poodle_by_jollyjack-darfuzg.jpg
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16:11.39FiskerHey Ressy
16:15.28znfHow the fuck do you quit skype these days
16:15.31znfjesus fuck, microsoft
16:15.47RessyUninstall.
16:15.54RessyThat's what I had to do on my cellphone.
16:15.58znfneeded it for work
16:16.12znfI don't usually have that shit installed
16:16.14RessyOtherwise I was getting messages from various MVPs in the Tech MVP skype group at 3am.
16:17.52FiskerAw
16:18.18nevcairiellogging out of s kype on a phone is rather annoying
16:18.23nevcairielon a PC you can just quit it
16:19.12Gnarfozskype on my phone simply has a sign out button?
16:19.26RessyDoesn't work.
16:19.28Gnarfoz(or had, when I had to use it recently for the first time in years, because apparently, turkish hackers.)
16:19.31Gnarfozyes, it does
16:19.33RessyReboot the phone, it signs you back in.
16:19.51Gnarfozso? that doesn't mean it doesn't sign you out when you use it
16:20.04Ressylol
16:20.09nevcairielusing skype on a phone has some other funny side-effects
16:20.12RessyAnd randomly signs you back in later on.
16:20.14Gnarfoz(didn't have time to test that particular case, I don't reboot my phone all the time)
16:20.22FiskerI think I recall seeing it relog during the phone running
16:20.24Gnarfozrandomly? doubtful
16:20.35nevcairielif you uninstall skype without carefully signing out everywhere, you stay marked as online for ever on everyones contact lists
16:20.41Gnarfoz:D
16:20.42FiskerBut using Skype for group chat in 2016
16:20.43Gnarfozthat sounds fun
16:20.44winklol
16:20.58FiskerI keep going invisible for some reason
16:20.58Gnarfozs/for.*//
16:21.11nevcairieland yeah skype on a phone is rather annoying no matter what
16:21.23Gnarfozhas Skype learned to do proper offline messages by now?
16:21.32Gnarfoz(buffered on the server, not the client)
16:21.41winkFisker: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKdxd718WXg ?
16:21.51GnarfozSfB doesn't, but that's really not the same software
16:21.55FiskerNope wink
16:22.01nevcairielI use skype on the desktop for calling a few friends in other countries, never understood the people that use it for chatting
16:22.27Gnarfozanyway, I just disabled the app on my phone after I was done using it to tell everyone on my contact list to not visit whatever URL it was hax0rz were sending from my account
16:23.04Gnarfozperhaps not an option on some US phones where the network operator has more power than the user :C
16:24.02Gnarfoz(a bit annoying that it downgrades it to the "factory version", which is years behind, literally)
16:24.22nevcairielbecause its forbidden to entirely unisntall it <.<
16:24.32Gnarfozit's a system app, yeah
16:24.43GnarfozI could have just used package disabler to disable it as is
16:24.44nevcairielits only a system app because microsoft paid for it to be
16:24.53nevcairielso its dumb
16:25.07Gnarfozbut then, I don't use it, so the bit of space saved by reverting back to the stub version is ok
16:25.16GnarfozI think it's actually a non-functional stub, IIRC
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16:26.23Gnarfoznot being able to uninstall shit is one of the drawbacks of not rooting, but thankfully, package disabler can take care of that (only loss: a couple of MiB of space)
16:26.46Gnarfozheh, yeah, Skype, storage usage: 144 KiB
16:26.52GnarfozI don't think that's a functional version
16:30.56Gnarfozheh, if I open that, it opens Samsung's app store with an "update" button
16:34.04Gnarfoz2.4.534.17432 (144 KiB) -> 7.28.301 (107 MiB) :D
16:34.18GnarfozI'd rather not. *disables again*
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16:47.17nevcairielhm what am i going to eat tonight
16:48.05Funkeh`a big german sausage
16:49.35znfeveryone is asking the same question
16:49.43znfI can't figure out what to eat, either
16:49.55znfcan't decide if I want to order or go out
16:49.59znfit's -4°C
16:50.14Funkeh`how about you get in the kitchen
16:50.51znfI still have to get out, because I used up everything in the kitchen
16:50.54znfno meat available
16:51.30Funkeh`you know you don't need to eat meat every day
16:51.42znfI just moved
16:51.57Funkeh`to a butchers home?
16:52.10znfThe only things I have in my fridge are some cold cuts, some brie, some softer cheese, few cherry tomatoes, some frozen green beans
16:52.32Funkeh`do you have any bread
16:52.45znfI stopped eating bread ~3 years ago
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16:53.56Funkeh`use the cold cuts as a sandwich, spread in some cheeses, with tomatos and green beans on the side
16:54.10Gnarfozthe good old kfc double down
16:54.26znfoh, and I have some eggs, too
16:54.37nevcairielcolds cuts as sandwich, and you advocated not eating meat every day =p
16:54.39Funkeh`even better
16:54.44Funkeh`omelette
16:54.46znfbut I've only ate eggs + stuff last 3 days
16:54.55Funkeh`thrown the eggs in and everything else you have
16:55.19znfEither way, I have to leave the house today or tomorow morning :-/
16:55.50nevcairielI had to go to german-DMV today, so annoying
16:55.51Funkeh`nevcairiel, yeah for healthy eating, not because it's meat
16:56.01Funkeh`but what can you do when your fridge is empty
16:57.01nevcairieland of course the hours I was gone was the hour the DHL guy picked to not deliver my package, so i got to pick that up somewhere
16:57.03znfnevcairiel, you have a drivers license?
16:57.07nevcairiels/hours/hour/
16:57.16nevcairielof course
16:57.34nevcairielhad to renew my international drivers license so i can drive in australia
16:57.41Funkeh`https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-Zen-Event-Today
16:57.43znfBut you don't drive, right?
16:57.52nevcairieli drive when i need to
16:57.52Funkeh`goodbye Intel, gonna get SMOKED
16:58.10nevcairielFunkeh` is smoking things
16:58.25Gnarfozrofl
16:58.33Gnarfozgood luck with that
16:58.37znfman, send some of that weed
16:58.49Funkeh`lol
16:58.49znfactually I have weed
16:58.53MegalonFunkeh`, he da ganjaman himself
16:59.08nevcairielwould be nice to get an actual jump in performance, but its just not gonna happen
16:59.12znfbut my cigarette papers are in the car
16:59.14nevcairielAMD is still banking on high core count and low IPC
16:59.18znfrolling papcer, whatever
16:59.23nevcairieland apps/games just dont work that way yet
16:59.27Gnarfozthere might be a jump, AMD is so far behind Intel that they can make one and still not catch up
16:59.40Funkeh`I want my 16 core cpu so I can be better than you
16:59.41Gnarfoz:|
16:59.45Megalonwe need a CPU with 1.21 JIGGAWATTS
16:59.59znfwhat the fuck
17:00.02GnarfozMegalon: just so znf can make his omelette?
17:00.10znfis that an "ad" with live video for twitch?
17:00.15nevcairielpeople already made omelettes on P4s
17:00.17nevcairielhow is that news
17:00.22Gnarfozit isn't
17:00.26Gnarfozbut that's what I was referring to
17:00.33GnarfozAthlon XP egg frying!
17:00.41nevcairielthe time before thermal cutoffs
17:02.12Gnarfozwasn't that proven to be a rumour
17:02.15nevcairielalso, supposedly the name of the first gen of ZEN GPUs is "RYZEN", whoever let their teenage kid suggest names should be fired =p
17:02.24Gnarfozpaging @ReaperNames
17:02.44Gnarfozlol, some russians cooking eggs on 3-way SLI
17:02.46nevcairielCPUs* of course
17:02.59Megalonnev, I heard that the 2nd gen will be called "SHYZEN"
17:03.06Megalon( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
17:03.08nevcairiellol
17:03.24Megalon3rd will be "WEGSCHMEIZEN"
17:03.38nevcairieland they would probably not even notice because muricans
17:03.38silentiumwasn't P4 the first generation to throttle/shut off on overheating?
17:03.56Gnarfozmy mobo's had thermals shutdown as far back as I can remember
17:04.03Gnarfoz-s
17:04.08nevcairieli think it was still in the mobos hand back then
17:04.17nevcairielbut maybe one of the P4 models had it built-in then
17:04.24Gnarfozsomething like that
17:04.29nevcairielP4 was a failed arch anyway, but yeah
17:04.46Gnarfozway back when AMD CPUs were actually competitive, performance-wise
17:04.54silentiumhttp://www.hardwaresecrets.com/pentium-4-thermal-throttle/
17:05.00nevcairielthats around the time  AMD dropped the ball
17:05.20Gnarfoz"You can now access the services on the site. In addition, as our general members, you will automatically receive an e-Newsletter per week from DRAMeXchange. "
17:05.24nevcairielafter P4 was Core, and AMD had zilch
17:05.31Gnarfozfuck you, that's illegal :|
17:05.43nevcairielmuricans dont c are about EU laws
17:05.47znfI think I'll take the easy/cheap way out. I'll go to a hypermarket, buy some of those grilled meat they have and also buy some fresh meat for tomorrow and done.
17:06.10GnarfozI don't think that's legal in the US, either
17:06.21Gnarfozznf you frenchie
17:06.26znf?!
17:06.27nevcairielI would be surprised if they have consumer protection laws at all =P
17:06.33znfwhy am I frenchie? :o
17:06.35Gnarfozhypermarket is what .fr calls supermarkets
17:06.44znfhuh?
17:06.50quiescenso.o
17:06.54Gnarfoz:D never heard it except from .fr
17:06.57znfwe actually have a distinction between supermarkets and hypermarkets
17:07.03znfhypermarkets are usually much bigger?
17:07.12nevcairielhypermarkets are apparenly a combination of supermarkets and department stores
17:07.13nevcairielor something
17:07.20Gnarfozhuh
17:07.29silentiumthe french have both as well
17:07.31znflike: carrefour, auchan, cora are hypermarkets
17:07.32nevcairiellike marktkauf!
17:07.42Gnarfozmarktkauf doesn't exist anymore, does it
17:07.43znfBila, Lidl, Kaufland are Supermarkets
17:07.55nevcairieldunno who owns it now, shops are still carryingf the name
17:07.59nevcairiel-f
17:08.00Gnarfozbut a regular Kaufland here is at least 3x the size of a Lidl
17:08.12Gnarfoznot sure how they fit in the same category
17:08.21znfthey're mostly the same size around here
17:08.25nevcairielthe lines blur further anyway, a kaufland also carries loads of department-store-y products
17:08.26winkit's as big as 2.5 football fields? :D
17:08.36Gnarfozit's weird enough that Lidl exists at the shores of the black sea
17:08.46winkyou ant measure in Lidls, silly Gnarfoz
17:08.54GnarfozI do if I want to
17:08.56Gnarfoztry and stop me
17:08.59nevcairiellidl is quite international
17:09.05GnarfozI know, still odd :D
17:09.13GnarfozAldi as well
17:09.19znfHmmm
17:09.30znfActually it seems that Kaufland is also a hipermarket
17:09.32nevcairielAldi has a cinema commercial now
17:09.33nevcairielso terrible
17:09.54znftough ours are not on the scale of auchan/carefour
17:09.59Gnarfozso you're saying I should go to the cinema?
17:10.11nevcairielyour choice?
17:10.13nevcairielbut rogue one is up
17:10.15Gnarfozznf: you don't have "real", do you?
17:10.19nevcairielwell, tomorrow
17:10.21znfWe do
17:10.30znfHipermarket: Auchan, Carrefouor, Cora, Kaufland, Metro, Selgros, Real
17:10.31Gnarfozthat might be worth seeing; actually, Arrival first
17:10.39nevcairielarrival was pretty good
17:10.50nevcairiela bit out there
17:10.52nevcairielbut good
17:10.56winkwill go to see Rogue One on Thursday, at 6 in the morning
17:11.01znfSupermarket: Billa, Carrefour Express, Mega Image, Profi, Lidl
17:11.14Gnarfozhttps://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_(Handelskette) "supermarkets" -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_(hypermarket) (well, it's in the title)
17:11.35znfdunno what to tell you, but they're distinct :P
17:11.44nevcairielwe germans just dont use that term at all
17:11.56znfoh, would you look at that, Tesco is apparently planning on expanding to Romania
17:12.33Gnarfoz(Real belongs to Metro, btw, but then it's not particularly rare to have some chain operating multiple of their brands in the same country in parallel)
17:12.47znfKaufland also owns Lidl...
17:12.51znffor example
17:13.19nevcairielwell technically the same holding company owns both lidl and kaufland
17:13.26znfyeah
17:13.40winkCarrefour in Belgium has good chocolate :P
17:13.41Gnarfozmy recaptcha just asked me to identify images depicting "outdoor seating area"
17:13.46nevcairielhehe
17:13.48Gnarfozthat's a new one
17:13.55nevcairielthose image recognition things are so annoying
17:13.56znfwtf Jerry's Pizza - no french fries option
17:13.58Megalondid it show znf's living room?
17:14.12znfoh wait, it has "wedges"
17:14.32nevcairielit seems odd that kaufland is active in so many eastern european countries but keeps using the same german name
17:14.58znfWhat else would they use?
17:15.15nevcairieldunno, some new name thats not just two german words thrown together
17:15.18Megalonthey also kept the name blitzkrieg even when using it in the eastern european countries
17:15.19Megalon:)
17:15.22Gnarfozlol, my "why are we getting this weird spanish 'dear panelist, blah blah take our survey, just 20 minutes, blah" mail just got weirder, now the spanish recipient angrily replied to a romanian person to fix the recipient list ;D
17:15.32Gnarfoz(keeping me in CC)
17:15.32quiescensi don't think many companies rename themselves for each language
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17:16.05Megalonaldi renamed itself to hofer in austria
17:16.08Megalonso there is that :P
17:16.11znfWhy would they do that?
17:16.41nevcairielAldi Nord also has "Trader Joe's" in the US
17:16.49nevcairielwhile Aldi  Süd is  just Aldi =p
17:16.58znfwhy are they sud/nord?
17:17.05Megalontwo brothers
17:17.21nevcairielyeah the two Aldi brothers had their own
17:17.36winkin Austria it's called Hofer
17:17.37nevcairielsplit germany in half more or less
17:17.39winkbut it's still Aldi
17:17.51winkor... used to be
17:17.53winkwho knows
17:18.02nevcairielHofer is just Aldi Süd, yeah
17:18.04quiescensplaces with multiple names tend to be because of a merger or acquisition
17:18.05Megalonit was always hofer in austria
17:18.08winkI need to go the UK again and look at a Tesco
17:18.17winknot done that in 20y
17:18.21Megalonaldi süd bought the hofer kg
17:18.21znfso, yeah, I'll go Carrefour, then go to Selgros a bit
17:18.36znfI should make a shopping list and stick to it
17:18.39quiescensnot just because they went to a new place and decided to pick a random new name to go with the language o.o
17:18.39winkMegalon: I don't know, bu the logo is kina the Aldi Süd one
17:18.56Megalonit's the same logo yea, but hofer was not founded by the aldi guys
17:19.09winkI hadn't seen one before that either
17:19.15winkmaybe it was a much smaller chain?
17:19.18Megalonit was founded by some austrian guy, but the aldi sud guy bought it a few years later
17:19.36nevcairielHofer was only Hofer for 5 years, afterwards it was purchased by Aldi S üd
17:19.36Megalonway before my time :P
17:19.49wink1962
17:19.51quiescenssee!
17:20.12znfofc I'm looking at the list and I'm 99.99% sure I'm forgetting something
17:20.15Gnarfoz"Sie ist Teil der Unternehmensgruppe Aldi Süd, welche auf drei Kontinenten in bald schon 10 Ländern vertreten ist" -- "bald schon", someone from Aldi has been editing that page :p
17:20.25Gnarfoz(or someone without an eye for marketing speak)
17:21.00winkMegalon: I'm just sayin I'm pretty sure I never once saw a Hofer in Styria (or on the way there) until like.. 10-15 years ago.
17:21.16quiescenswhat difference does it make that schon is bald?
17:21.18winkbut bad sampling, I know :D
17:21.27Megalonwe were shopping hofer when i was a kid, so carinthia had them for sure
17:21.40Megalonmaybe you were just in same remote bergdorf? :P
17:22.33winkMegalon: my route was and still is: Munich -> Salzburg -> Radstadt -> Liezen -> Graz -> Deutschlandsberg. so 2 whole Bundesstrassen, plus most of the region down there  at the 76
17:22.51Gnarfozwe keep making jokes about our Austrian and Swiss guild members having to go down to the valley to get new fuel for the generators, whenever they disconnect and disappear for the evening
17:22.57winkofc there's none near the autobahn
17:23.17Megalonwell hofers are mostly in the city, or were
17:23.17winkGnarfoz: I had a UK guildy who was always going offline when it started to rain...
17:23.26nevcairielmost of our austrians live in vienna, jokes dont work that well there
17:23.26Megalonnowadays even our city has 4 or 5 even
17:23.41winkMegalon: yeah maybe there was one in Graz I never noticed
17:23.48winkDL is not so small
17:23.52Megalonvienna is like vatican state
17:23.55Gnarfoznevcairiel: dialect problems? :D
17:24.01winkvienna is not a city :P
17:24.01nevcairielthat too
17:24.04winkit's half a country
17:24.06Megalonit does not belong to italy, so vienna does not belong to austria
17:24.16Megalonvienna is the smallest state :P
17:24.23winkok, quarter country to be fair
17:24.40Megalonmore like 1/5
17:24.50Megalonand none of the 4/5 like them much
17:24.53Megalon:P
17:25.13wink1/4 is the region.
17:25.30winkcounting people in metropolises is hard
17:25.43winkI count everyone who commutes there :P
17:26.05quiescenso.o
17:26.17winkvienna's not so bad though. Drunken guy on the subway wanted to pass his joint at 8 am
17:26.33winkso at least one very friendly person lived there a few years ago
17:26.42Megalonthat was probably the only one
17:26.48winkhe also told me the story of his whole life
17:26.55Megalonhaha
17:27.22winkbut I think he was not a native, so scratch that
17:27.49Megalonwiener are just the pitome of arrogance
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17:40.58GnarfozMegalon: even so, I'm always annoyed when USians say "weiner" when they mean "wiener" ;C
17:41.37Gnarfozit's just... wrong
17:42.30Gnarfozalso, Trump wants to make ExxonMobil's CEO their foreign minister? lol
17:42.43Gnarfozdrain the swamp... and fill it with oil
17:46.06winkGnarfoz: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Weiner ? :P
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17:56.04Gnarfozodds are, that's the same misspelling, just inside of a name
17:58.23Megalonor he's just a good ol' german whiner
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18:28.27znfI guess I'm just eating KFC tonight
18:35.54TrelaMmm.  Why though?
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19:54.52Stanzillahttp://masteroverwatch.com/news/83-overwatch-winter-wonderland-is-now-live-skins-preview-inside
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21:03.50znfTrela, because lazy
21:03.58TrelaDelayed.
21:03.58znfand I stumbled upon a KFC on my way to do some shopping
21:04.11znfyeah, I run out of battery while shopping
21:04.19znffor some reasons my battery drained 40% in one hour
21:05.36winkI had that last week
21:05.51winktotally weird. and 2 days later with 7.1.1 it was gone
21:06.13znfIt's some random app
21:06.19znfand by random, I mean it's most likely Yeelight
21:06.22Stanzillafacebook
21:07.45znfalso that
21:07.57znftough it doesn't appear in my battery drain as being the culprit
21:08.06Stanzillait does not show up in the list
21:08.09Stanzillabut it drains like crazy
21:08.14znfinteresting
21:08.15Stanzillauninstall it and see your battery life improve
21:08.52Stanzillause a wrapper app for the mobile site
21:08.57Stanzillagood enough for everything
21:11.24FiskerDon't use Facebook
21:11.26FiskerEven better
21:12.17znfI tried the wrappers
21:12.19znfthey were horrible :(
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21:15.25Stanzillaznf: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.happening.studios.swipeforfacebookpro&hl=en
21:15.28Stanzilla0 problems with it
21:15.34znfI tried all the wrappers
21:15.35FiskerBecause Facebook is horrible
21:15.40znfThey pale in comparision to the actual app :(
21:15.49Stanzillathey also dont drain your battery
21:15.55Stanzillaand require every permission in the book
21:16.03znfSomeone needs to write a "cage" for the facebook app, tough
21:16.14znflike, really, the app is /so/ much better than the mobile website
21:16.16znfjust feels better
21:17.11winkStanzilla: I have one chat bubble up all the time, so it's no the messenger
21:17.27StanzillaI havent used messenger in ages
21:17.35winkI only use messenger, not the app :P
21:17.37Stanzillabut the facebook app was killing my phone when I had it installed
21:17.39Stanzillaok
21:18.36znfI know it's killing the phone
21:18.42znfwell, the battery
21:19.48znfStanzilla, ALSO THAT COSTS MONEY
21:20.13znfand it's 50% off?!
21:20.17znfthat shit be expensive yo
21:21.06Stanzillaworth it
21:21.13Stanzillaits like 2 euro
21:21.17Stanzilladont be extra gipsy
21:26.11znfit's 3.10!
21:26.19znfand I'm not convinced I actually like it
21:31.29Stanzillayou can still return it
21:31.31Stanzillafor full refund
21:34.38znf15 minutes is not enough to test properly :P
21:34.47znfI already tested the free version a while ago - I tested all the wrappers
21:34.54znfwasn't happy with either :(
21:40.44znfStanzilla: like
21:40.48znfHere's a question
21:40.59znfWhy are images so low-res?
21:41.27Stanzillawhere
21:41.47znfIn Swipe for a Facebook
21:41.48Stanzillaprobably detects mobile and serves lowres first?
21:41.50Stanzilladunno
21:42.37Stanzillathe ones I see are not low res
21:43.27Stanzillaznf: https://dl2.pushbulletusercontent.com/cKeERWvAFrLbRwpoDZzTxv2CsjuEFAZd/Screenshot_20161213-224250.png
21:43.29Stanzillalooks high res to me
21:43.41znfAh, yes. That's what I hated about the wrappers
21:43.48znfThe image viewer
21:44.13Stanzillawhat about it
21:44.27Stanzillayou press the [ ] icon and get the same view as in the app
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21:59.28winkStanzilla: rotkreuzplatz? :P
22:09.17znfoh
22:09.19znfwinter event
22:09.21znfin overwatch
22:12.46wink[20:54:52] <Stanzilla> http://masteroverwatch.com/news/83-overwatch-winter-wonderland-is-now-live-skins-preview-inside
22:12.50winkwhat he said
22:15.32znfI was shopping
22:16.18znfno Rhein skin?
22:16.19znfwtf?
22:16.21winkit was the last line in the backlog :P
22:22.24Stanzillawink: nah, something in dortmund
22:23.19winkk
22:27.05Stanzillahttps://youtu.be/4DEfj2MRLtA
22:27.09Stanzillanevcairiel Fisker Funkeh`
22:27.13Stanzillaseen it already?
22:27.47Funkeh`not yet, they probably destroyed intel though
22:30.26StanzillaI'm not sure comparing 8 core processors for gaming is telling
22:31.03znfwink, 2 hours ago!
22:31.26winkhe said it, you returned 70min later.
22:34.06znfwow, I hate this game mode
22:34.17znfjust give me my win and lootbox so I don't have to do it again
22:36.03Gnarfozcan you unequip items programmatically
22:36.12Gnarfozor rather, is there a macro command for it
22:36.21Gnarfoz/unequip?
22:36.23Stanzillayes
22:39.41Funkeh`Stanzilla, do you remember when a teraflop was actually hard?
22:39.58Funkeh`who wrote that into the speech dear god
22:40.19nevcairielI still doubt a 95W 8C CPU can beat the IPC of a 95W 4C CPU, it would have to be twice as fast/efficient, which is super unrealistic, and for gaming 4C and high IPC is still whats going to be best
22:40.34Stanzilla^
22:41.23Funkeh`aand it will continue to be whats going to be best forever until someone pushes the limit
22:41.32nevcairielmultithreading is hard
22:41.37Funkeh`intel isn't going to do that when they can continue to milk 4 cores
22:42.29nevcairielmajority of games are GPU bound either way
22:42.41Funkeh`doesn't matter
22:42.47Funkeh`hardware needs to take the first step
22:42.54nevcairielsure it does, it means cpu performance is not very important
22:43.07Funkeh`a nice excuse
22:43.16Funkeh`we'll just milk 4 cores because it's not really needed
22:45.14nevcairielThe point is not that 4C is "enough", the point is that I don't want to give up IPC for more cores that end up barely used
22:46.41nevcairieland twice the cores at same TDP doesn't scream higher or even equal IPC to me
22:47.13Funkeh`the fuck cares about TDP, you make the leap first, then you improve upon power usage
22:47.18Funkeh`same thing happened with 4 cores
22:47.23nevcairielwell they didnt
22:47.27nevcairielthey made it a 95W part
22:47.31Funkeh`diference was we've been "improving power usage" for a decade
22:47.51Funkeh`only for them to say, you know what, we know we've been doing all this stuff because of mobile, but we're giving up on mobile
22:48.33Funkeh`giving up on mobile? great, now focus on performance against instead of TDP
22:48.52Funkeh`s/against/again
22:49.58znfyay http://i.imgur.com/LM9rEjI.png
22:50.27Funkeh`santaclad, lol
22:50.34znfalso yay http://i.imgur.com/olrvwQF.png
22:50.39znfsanta is generous
22:51.39Stanzillawow fuck you
22:55.03znfwonder why are people so fucking shit abotu Sombra in competitive
22:55.20Stanzillabecause she is bad
22:55.30Funkeh`wtf Stanzilla
22:55.37Funkeh`they are comparing it to the 8 core intel
22:55.54StanzillaI said that
22:55.58znfwhy is she bad?
22:56.00znfshe's fucking awesome
22:56.02Stanzillano
22:56.03Funkeh`must have misread
22:56.13Stanzillajust a worse tracer
22:56.59znfhow? she can disable shields and abilities
22:57.08znfbest way to disable Bastion for example
22:57.12znfport behind it
22:57.20znfhack
22:57.20znfwin
22:57.21znfprofit
23:00.20Stanzillathats the only use she has
23:00.21nevcairielamd demo using nvidia super-highend card .. they better come up with something to fill that slot too =p
23:00.24Stanzillaand you can do that with tracer too
23:00.38Stanzillasombras dmg is way too low, her stealth sucks because you can get hit during it
23:00.40Stanzillaand hack is lackluster
23:03.44Stanzillahttps://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.skype.m2
23:03.44Stanzillawat
23:10.43Gnarfozskypeuploader@googlemail.com
23:10.44Gnarfozlegit
23:11.18Stanzilla:D
23:11.19Stanzillahttps://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA34709/common-questions-and-known-issues-with-skype-mingo-alpha
23:13.11Funkeh`it was that bad they decided to start from scratch
23:19.54Gnarfozis it not 107 MB?
23:21.59Funkeh`that's a lot in India
23:22.26Stanzilla14.6 MB (15,309,488 bytes)
23:24.18Funkeh`the app is 107mb on disk
23:28.43Funkeh`153MB memory
23:31.30znfI like that "stay as a team" button :D
23:59.10Stanzillahttps://github.com/atom/atom/pull/13429
23:59.13Stanzillafinally

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