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| 00:22.25 | Zeldo | Stanzilla: Can you do a push? |
| 00:22.29 | Zeldo | WeakAuras should be good to go |
| 00:26.42 | Stanzilla | I'm scared |
| 00:27.59 | Zeldo | nevcairiel: Please push Bartender again, should be fixed |
| 00:28.07 | nevcairiel | Zeldo: both issues? |
| 00:28.20 | Zeldo | Yes |
| 00:28.28 | nevcairiel | ok, i'll try in a bit |
| 00:29.04 | Zeldo | Thank you :) |
| 00:29.21 | Zeldo | Want to make sure its fixed before we go home |
| 00:29.26 | Zeldo | Working on another issue atm though |
| 00:33.12 | Stanzilla | done |
| 00:35.29 | Zeldo | ty |
| 00:36.22 | nevcairiel | Zeldo: something odd is going on, it took like 2 mnutes for the file with locale to show up, and now I download it and i keep getting the variant without locale |
| 00:36.41 | nevcairiel | maybe the CDN wasnt told the file changed? |
| 00:37.59 | nevcairiel | (because I downloaded it before it was refreshed since I thought after about 2 minutes it should be done now, but it only finished shortly after) |
| 00:38.43 | Zeldo | Cloudflare issue from us checking too quickly |
| 00:38.46 | Zeldo | Sorry about that |
| 00:39.33 | Zeldo | Stanzilla: Checked your file, localization is working now |
| 00:39.49 | Zeldo | You can tag as well, that was fixed yesterday |
| 00:40.12 | nevcairiel | picked up the correct libraries at least |
| 00:40.22 | Zeldo | Yup, it did both |
| 00:40.28 | Zeldo | The local is there, you are just hitting cloudflare |
| 00:40.39 | nevcairiel | when does that invalidate? =p |
| 00:40.42 | Zeldo | Your is the correct output lib and locale wise |
| 00:40.46 | Zeldo | A few minutes |
| 00:41.26 | Zeldo | To be fair I downloaded it too quickly as well :P |
| 00:41.37 | Zeldo | Had to check it with a box in Alabama I SSHâd into |
| 00:41.45 | nevcairiel | its kinda iffy that it shows up so soon |
| 00:41.52 | Zeldo | Yea, I have a ticket in to fix that |
| 00:41.52 | nevcairiel | do only we mods see it then, or the authors too? |
| 00:42.00 | Zeldo | Itâs because you are on auto approve |
| 00:42.04 | Zeldo | If you werent it wouldn't |
| 00:42.09 | nevcairiel | i see |
| 00:48.22 | Stanzilla | Zeldo: is there already an issue for every commit msg appearing twice in the changelog? |
| 00:48.37 | nevcairiel | mine doesnt do that |
| 00:49.06 | nevcairiel | the old changelog was more r eadable instead of just "git log", but every change only once |
| 00:51.56 | Kesava_ | b-t-dubs, the packager doesn't seem to be doing anything for me with github-webhooks set up |
| 00:52.18 | Kesava_ | github sez the webhook is returning success but packages aren't.. happening |
| 00:52.24 | Torhal | Kesava_: One sec |
| 00:52.35 | Zeldo | yes Stanzilla |
| 00:52.43 | Zeldo | Itâs an SVN issue I believe |
| 00:52.52 | nevcairiel | oh svn |
| 00:52.53 | Torhal | Kesava_: What's your payload look like (remove your API token) |
| 00:52.54 | nevcairiel | i dont have any of those |
| 00:53.26 | Kesava_ | https://wow.curseforge.com/api/projects/35095/package?token=etc |
| 00:53.47 | Kesava_ | (btw the page said wildstar.curseforge.com, that predictably wasn't returning success) |
| 00:53.48 | Torhal | When was the last time you pushed? |
| 00:53.59 | Kesava_ | 2016-11-19 10:50:35 |
| 00:54.21 | Zeldo | So 4 minutes ago? |
| 00:54.25 | Zeldo | I dont know your timezone :x |
| 00:54.27 | Kesava_ | um |
| 00:54.52 | Kesava_ | that was 14 hours ago |
| 00:55.00 | Kesava_ | maths |
| 00:55.03 | Torhal | Ah, try again. |
| 00:55.06 | Kesava_ | kay |
| 00:55.13 | Zeldo | Yea new packager since then |
| 00:56.04 | Torhal | Kesava_: Go to your dashboard, click Builds, then click the request # for the latest one |
| 00:56.09 | Torhal | That'll tell you where it failed. |
| 00:56.35 | Torhal | Though it should just work now with the latest changes. |
| 00:56.58 | nevcairiel | are failure logs more verbose then success logs? because it aint telling me much :D |
| 00:57.32 | Kesava_ | well apparently there is no TOC file |
| 00:57.38 | Torhal | Success logs won't say much - just processing and completed and show a revision |
| 00:58.08 | Kesava_ | I'm guessing it wants a TOC in the root which.. isn't really valid for me |
| 00:58.10 | nevcairiel | Kesava_'s repository is a bit on the special side of setups |
| 00:58.19 | nevcairiel | lots of folders being moved with pkgmeta |
| 00:58.37 | Torhal | Isn't BigWigs set up like that also? |
| 00:58.39 | Kesava_ | I can't be the only one who does that |
| 00:58.57 | nevcairiel | you are the only one that I know who doesnt have the root addon in the root |
| 00:59.06 | Torhal | I remember testing with that when I was writing the original version |
| 00:59.12 | Stanzilla | Zeldo: https://www.wowace.com/projects/weakauras-2/files/2346861 |
| 00:59.15 | Stanzilla | wa is git |
| 00:59.21 | nevcairiel | BigWigs eg. has the root in the root and just moves the plugins out |
| 00:59.25 | Torhal | Ah |
| 00:59.38 | nevcairiel | https://github.com/kesava-wow/kuinameplates2/ |
| 00:59.43 | nevcairiel | its a bit more uncommon this one |
| 01:00.00 | nevcairiel | but it worked with the old one :) |
| 01:00.05 | Kesava_ | Well if this is annoying I could do that |
| 01:00.13 | Kesava_ | I'd just have to update my symlinks i suppose |
| 01:05.19 | Zeldo | Okay Stanzilla , thanks |
| 01:05.22 | Zeldo | I;ll update the ticket |
| 01:05.49 | Stanzilla | "what is that odd Change log? Also Curse App says Modified Add On. All looks a but strange for me and so i will not update the Add on yet. Please can someone confirm it is a legit update and not someone hacked the Account and uploaded Maleware instead of the Add On." |
| 01:05.52 | Stanzilla | nice. |
| 01:06.17 | nevcairiel | the worst part about the new changelog is that its entirely mangled on curse |
| 01:06.27 | nevcairiel | (also way too tech-y for users) |
| 01:06.48 | Zeldo | We can look at improving it |
| 01:07.28 | Stanzilla | changelogs are extra broken in the client atm |
| 01:07.34 | Stanzilla | I already reported that to the client team though |
| 01:07.51 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: http://i.imgur.com/5nn6aJI.png |
| 01:08.00 | nevcairiel | thats how it looks on curse too |
| 01:08.09 | Stanzilla | not for me |
| 01:08.22 | Stanzilla | maybe it would if i tagged |
| 01:08.24 | Stanzilla | so I dont |
| 01:08.30 | nevcairiel | https://mods.curse.com/addons/wow/herebedragons#t1:changes |
| 01:08.38 | Stanzilla | nice |
| 01:10.34 | nevcairiel | Zeldo: for git logs maybe look up which git command the old packager used (some combination of git show and git shortlog I wager), it was pretty ok, plain "git log" is very verbose and has many hashes that just confuse users :) |
| 01:11.06 | Kesava_ | oh oh it worked |
| 01:11.07 | Kesava_ | yay. |
| 01:11.20 | nevcairiel | did you reshuffle your repo? |
| 01:11.27 | Kesava_ | yees |
| 01:11.34 | Zeldo | I think its your first line |
| 01:11.36 | nevcairiel | great now i need to fix my checkout |
| 01:11.39 | Zeldo | kuinameplates: Kui_Nameplates |
| 01:11.44 | Kesava_ | :D |
| 01:11.51 | Zeldo | Itâs going off into its own place |
| 01:11.53 | Kesava_ | well i wasn't sure if the parent name would matter. |
| 01:11.55 | Zeldo | Since its not named the same |
| 01:11.58 | Zeldo | It does |
| 01:12.18 | nevcairiel | you can drop that first line and instead use package-as to define the primary name |
| 01:12.21 | Stanzilla | Zeldo: did the package compression change or do I have to check for missing stuff? https://www.wowace.com/projects/weakauras-2/files file is smaller than the old files |
| 01:12.24 | Kesava_ | oh right. yeah. |
| 01:13.13 | Zeldo | Itâs on super compression Stanzilla |
| 01:13.17 | Zeldo | Torhal: did that |
| 01:13.24 | Stanzilla | k |
| 01:13.49 | Zeldo | Kesava_: I see you changed your pkgmeta |
| 01:13.57 | Zeldo | Change it back to waht it was on the old packager and you should be good |
| 01:14.08 | Zeldo | There was a bug regurding move folders that was fixed today |
| 01:15.08 | nevcairiel | now you tell him, after the scrambled to change his repo layout xD |
| 01:15.10 | Kesava_ | oh, yeah, i can see i broke the packager by telling it to rename the root |
| 01:15.21 | Kesava_ | i just tried it with the old setup, it didn't work |
| 01:15.28 | Kesava_ | still wanted a toc in the root dir |
| 01:16.05 | Stanzilla | Zeldo: so far the alpha file did not make it to the client |
| 01:16.18 | Zeldo | The syncer is fixing all of the files since we went to the new site |
| 01:16.21 | Zeldo | So it will take some time |
| 01:16.29 | Zeldo | We are also having internet troubles at the moment |
| 01:16.33 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 01:16.57 | Stanzilla | Zeldo: maybe make a news post about that, not everyone is on irc and can ask such stuff |
| 01:17.13 | Kesava_ | (oh actually that might've been because it was packaging under the wrong name) |
| 01:17.43 | Zeldo | :) |
| 01:18.18 | nevcairiel | Kesava_: if you really want to go back to your old layout it would probably work if you just take the pkgmeta and layout from two days ago and just add a package-as line |
| 01:18.32 | Kesava_ | yeah |
| 01:18.46 | nevcairiel | you used to be able to specify package-as on the website |
| 01:18.51 | nevcairiel | but apparently that has gone away? |
| 01:19.08 | nevcairiel | i can only assume you set it there |
| 01:19.55 | Torhal | Yeah, it did. Legacy revolved around Repositories instead of Projects, but that's no longer the case and exposing stuff that should be in the pkgmeta anyway is a bit weird. |
| 01:20.19 | Stanzilla | like your face |
| 01:20.30 | Torhal | A bit less, but yeah. |
| 01:20.57 | Funkeh` | we still have package-as, maybe we're just better |
| 01:21.40 | nevcairiel | package-as didnt go away, just the option to specify it on the website did, you now need to do it in the pkgmeta |
| 01:21.55 | Funkeh` | ah |
| 01:25.11 | Kesava_ | yeah it works with package-as set properly |
| 01:25.13 | Kesava_ | tyty |
| 01:25.20 | Fisker | I'm tired |
| 01:27.55 | Kesava_ | ... |
| 01:28.06 | Kesava_ | i never know when bash wants me to escape ! |
| 01:28.13 | Kesava_ | maybe it's just windows bash which doesn't care about it. |
| 01:28.26 | nevcairiel | if in doubt, always? |
| 01:28.30 | Kesava_ | indeed |
| 01:31.29 | Fisker | Hail hydra nevcairiel |
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| 01:39.51 | Kesava | well other than my files being stuck at "new" this seems to be nice and working and stuff |
| 01:41.42 | Torhal | When all of the files from the past two days are re-processed, you'll be good to go. |
| 01:41.48 | Torhal | They're all New until processed. |
| 01:41.54 | Kesava | right |
| 01:45.12 | Zeldo | Yea, we had to reprocess them to fix a client bug |
| 01:45.13 | Zeldo | :) |
| 01:47.10 | Funkeh` | when you gonna fix the modified bug |
| 01:48.31 | Torhal | I believe that's the client bug Zeldo is referring to. Either that, or the nolib thinger. |
| 01:48.33 | Zeldo | This should fix that. |
| 01:48.39 | Zeldo | They are both the same bug. |
| 01:48.46 | Funkeh` | so it's not fixed yet |
| 01:48.55 | Zeldo | No, its being processed to get the right hashes |
| 01:48.59 | Zeldo | and then the cache will have to break. |
| 01:49.04 | Funkeh` | ok |
| 01:49.25 | Zeldo | The libs being installed is also bad hashing and it thinking that hash was a proper file |
| 01:49.27 | Zeldo | Instead of a nolib |
| 01:50.19 | Funkeh` | what about library attribution to newly uploaded files |
| 01:50.23 | Funkeh` | is that also related |
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| 02:02.14 | Zeldo | That is a pending ticket still |
| 02:06.06 | Stanzilla | Funkeh`: stop pushing shit, I dont want to click modified 15x |
| 02:07.29 | quiescens | o.o |
| 02:07.34 | quiescens | gives Funkeh` a cookie |
| 02:11.29 | Stanzilla | http://i.imgur.com/oSOZkEc.png |
| 02:11.31 | Stanzilla | staahp |
| 02:12.45 | Gnarfoz | or just close curse client for a while until their reprocessing is finished? |
| 02:12.49 | Gnarfoz | novel idea, I know |
| 02:13.26 | Stanzilla | nah |
| 02:13.41 | quiescens | silly gnarfoz o.o |
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| 02:56.58 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: I hadn't realized, but... the crowd was slightly fake. https://i1.someimage.com/j2ZDMS5.png :D |
| 03:27.07 | Stanzilla | Kemayo: when I closed my orderhall mission table http://paste2.org/5me6ZDL4 |
| 03:27.34 | Stanzilla | ok it happens on every mouseover of the ldb plugin |
| 03:28.12 | Kemayo | Stabzilla: yeah, something would have gotten cached badly for the ldb. |
| 03:28.22 | Kemayo | Stanzilla, I mean. :P |
| 03:28.24 | Stanzilla | not a bad name tbh |
| 03:29.05 | Kemayo | I'll check it out more thoroughly when I get home -- thought I'd put fallbacks in place everywhere. |
| 03:29.15 | Torhal | Stabzilla lives in Stabby Town. |
| 03:29.33 | Kemayo | Oh, which class hall? Small chance it'll make a difference. (Just because I've never seen it happen.) |
| 03:30.07 | Stanzilla | mage |
| 04:06.21 | Fisker | hey Stanzilla |
| 04:06.24 | Fisker | Why can't I sleep? |
| 04:06.50 | Stanzilla | dunno |
| 04:09.29 | quiescens | gives fisker a cookie |
| 04:48.40 | Kemayo | Stanzilla: I put up a new version of questschanged which should not have any holes left for such things to happen. If they still do, well, I'll have to get more speculative. |
| 04:53.57 | Kemayo | misses Repo, who removes the need to communicate with people about these things. :-P |
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| 05:19.03 | quiescens | o.o |
| 05:19.15 | quiescens | gives Kemayo a cookie |
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| 06:37.34 | Kesava | my version numbers are the worst |
| 06:40.07 | Kesava | well apparently i'm being rejected again for missing a toc file |
| 06:43.36 | quiescens | ): |
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| 07:55.18 | Torhal | Kesava: I let them know earlier; they won't get to it until Monday at the earliest. |
| 07:55.58 | Kesava | kay, thanks |
| 08:08.02 | Fisker | anything new on the internet? |
| 08:08.11 | Torhal | Probably porn. |
| 08:15.57 | Fisker | I want to play the pokiest mon |
| 09:58.55 | nevcairiel | Zeldo: the new packager produces nolib files even if you don't have any libs in your project, that seems .. not ideal :) |
| 09:59.40 | nebula | the new packager really is so much better than the old one |
| 10:00.04 | nevcairiel | nebula: I'm sure yours was perfect the first day you tested it =p |
| 10:01.08 | nebula | it basically was, duh. |
| 10:03.28 | nevcairiel | Zeldo: the locale export is still mangling multi-line locale, although more subtly now, see https://www.wowace.com/projects/bartender4/files/2347064 locale\enUS.lua .. if you use a multi-line string constant, you should not escape the " in it, or you get literal \" in the string, and not the " you wanted |
| 10:05.07 | nevcairiel | sounds like some of them webdevs need to learn more Lua |
| 10:05.07 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 10:08.19 | Timmeh | nevcairiel: I think that statement is true for 99% of them webdevs |
| 10:08.29 | Timmeh | assuming that 1% of them webdevs does know Lua |
| 10:08.30 | nevcairiel | probably! |
| 10:08.40 | nevcairiel | but most of them dont have to deal with lua |
| 10:08.49 | Timmeh | no, but they do deal with JavaScript |
| 10:09.05 | Timmeh | and JavaScript's implementation of prototypal inheritance is quite half assed |
| 10:09.11 | Timmeh | might as well start with Lua to learn how it actually works |
| 10:09.17 | Timmeh | and then get into JavaScript |
| 10:09.22 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 10:09.36 | nevcairiel | with Lua you dont even have such a concept really, you basically make it yourself |
| 10:09.54 | nevcairiel | which is probably good for learning, i guess |
| 10:56.19 | Timmeh | doesn't have one concept? |
| 10:56.25 | Timmeh | (sorry, was gone a bit :-D) |
| 10:56.31 | Timmeh | doesn't have what concept?* |
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| 11:00.29 | Timmeh | inheritance is a bit of a hassle in lua as well, because you need to go through a metatable, instead of "just" setting the prototype of an object. but the metatables do let you do some other cool things :-D |
| 11:05.05 | nevcairiel | yeah its a lot more manual labor, which probably helps in people teaching these things |
| 11:05.41 | Timmeh | yea |
| 11:06.27 | Timmeh | I feel it's too bad that in JavaScript they had to semi-abstract that away and introduce a "new" keyword that sort off works in a class based way but does still just work prototypal |
| 11:08.47 | Timmeh | but I guess it works |
| 11:08.56 | Timmeh | and people are used to it |
| 11:09.28 | nevcairiel | JS as a language has so many pitfalls and oddities |
| 11:09.32 | nevcairiel | yet it becomes so popular |
| 11:09.39 | nevcairiel | its like the new php, just worse |
| 11:09.45 | Timmeh | it's gotten a lot better, fortunately |
| 11:10.10 | Timmeh | it's mostly the compatibility with the old versions that leaves in some shit things |
| 11:10.19 | Timmeh | and a few decisions have been pretty bad as well, for new syntax "sugar" |
| 11:11.01 | Timmeh | I actually do feel that JavaScript is a lot better to work with than PHP |
| 11:12.28 | Timmeh | PHP's inconsistent naming of functions and features, inconsistent usage and arguments of those and on top of that horrible way of handling errors (read as: mostly just returning false instead of throwing an error) makes it just very hard to work with |
| 11:13.31 | Timmeh | oh wait, I'm not sure if I even meant "error" or "exception" in the PHP sense of the words - because they're two different things T_T |
| 11:13.54 | Timmeh | (though I do believe they fixed that in PHP7, iirc - but w/e) |
| 11:13.56 | Timmeh | </rant> |
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| 11:47.35 | nevcairiel | luckily i havent worked with php in like a decade |
| 11:47.51 | nevcairiel | but i also havent done web dev in 3 years or so |
| 11:48.01 | nevcairiel | .. but i have a web project coming up in january |
| 11:48.06 | nevcairiel | not clear yet what tech we use |
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| 12:59.49 | Funkeh` | damn Zeldo you guys have really screwed something up |
| 12:59.55 | Funkeh` | https://wow.curseforge.com/projects/big-wigs/files |
| 13:06.08 | EthanCentaurai | bigwigs is forever showing as Modified in the Curse App |
| 13:06.34 | Funkeh` | I have a feeling it's also downloading alphas for people set to release |
| 13:09.55 | EthanCentaurai | damned thing is giving me -nolibs as well |
| 13:11.03 | nevcairiel | modified and nolibs was apparently the same bug and they said it should be fixed once all files are re-processed aand all caches invalidate, how long that would take wasnt clear however |
| 13:11.26 | Funkeh` | we don't have nolibs |
| 13:12.05 | nebula | that was just a general statement, http://i.imgur.com/zWPScX0.jpg that is pretty annoying |
| 13:13.23 | Funkeh` | it's funny because you think that would be top priority but apparently someone was making sure every got a random avatar instead |
| 13:13.37 | nebula | how is that file list screwed up, Funkeh`? |
| 13:13.57 | Funkeh` | the downloads |
| 13:14.13 | nebula | oh, the high number for the alpha? |
| 13:14.21 | Funkeh` | and the low number for release |
| 13:14.26 | nevcairiel | its the same argument mmo-c people use to complain about wow devs, and the same answer applies: not everyone works on the same things at the same time |
| 13:14.50 | Funkeh` | the wow dev team is large |
| 13:14.52 | nevcairiel | someone or some-two can work on file issues while some other people work through other things |
| 13:14.58 | Funkeh` | the curse dev team isn't |
| 13:15.07 | nevcairiel | still more then 2 people |
| 13:15.10 | Funkeh` | it has shrunk over time *points a Torhal* |
| 13:15.17 | nebula | is it, though |
| 13:15.33 | Funkeh` | I wouldn't be surprised if it's 3 people |
| 13:16.48 | quiescens | o.o |
| 13:17.03 | Torhal | Yar. |
| 13:17.08 | Torhal | And I did the random avatars. |
| 13:17.11 | Torhal | Was a setting. |
| 13:17.20 | nevcairiel | see, its all torhal's fault |
| 13:17.21 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 13:17.21 | Torhal | Better than a bunch of fucking shapeless white people. |
| 13:17.43 | nevcairiel | hey the shapeless white people motivated me to grab my old forum avatar and upload it |
| 13:17.45 | nebula | gdi Torhal |
| 13:17.46 | quiescens | make one a cookie |
| 13:17.49 | nebula | you're costing us a raid tier |
| 13:18.31 | Torhal | Oh, sorry, nevcairiel - I forgot to say "Piss off." |
| 13:18.31 | Timmeh | random avatars? |
| 13:18.39 | quiescens | harsh |
| 13:18.40 | Timmeh | now I need to grab an old forum avatar and upload it |
| 13:18.51 | quiescens | steal torhal's |
| 13:19.16 | nevcairiel | so mean Torhal |
| 13:19.25 | quiescens | yeah torhal |
| 13:19.34 | Funkeh` | Torhal is a total meanie |
| 13:19.39 | Timmeh | nerf Torhal |
| 13:19.40 | Torhal | Totally mean. |
| 13:19.46 | nevcairiel | any hints when the file processing and cache-death would/should be done? Apparently the issues with the client are still there |
| 13:19.50 | nebula | Torhal: any chance of them throwing up a legacy.wowace.com pages, images, and issue attachments are fucked and it would be nice to copy them from the old site |
| 13:20.09 | Torhal | nevcairiel: No clue, unfortunately :/ |
| 13:20.19 | Torhal | nebula: They're going to fix that - they still have the data. |
| 13:20.28 | nevcairiel | nebula: issue attachments are weird, some work and some dont |
| 13:21.24 | nebula | i was just updating pb stuff and pages lost the toc on empty nodes and half the images are missing |
| 13:22.57 | nevcairiel | i just keep reporting issues to zeldo, they seem to be fixing them relatively quickly, so i can only hope that by next week or so most of this just works |
| 13:23.55 | quiescens | \o/ |
| 13:24.14 | Torhal | I'm just going to go with "It would all be working now if it weren't for that damn quiescens and his meddling cookies." |
| 13:24.22 | quiescens | noes ): |
| 13:24.24 | nevcairiel | cookies are evil |
| 13:24.34 | quiescens | cookies are good ): |
| 13:28.16 | Timmeh | eat more cookies = less meddling cookies |
| 13:28.26 | quiescens | gives timmeh a cookie |
| 13:29.03 | Timmeh | doesn't eat the cookie and throws it at the Curse servers. |
| 13:29.11 | Timmeh | OOPS |
| 13:29.12 | quiescens | ): |
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| 13:48.07 | Timmeh | Torhal: suggestion - on the dashboard where it says "ISSUES", it shows total issues, it'd probably be more useful if it shows "OPEN ISSUES" instead |
| 13:48.21 | Timmeh | I clicked on it a few times now, to then see an empty list of open issues :-P |
| 13:48.40 | Torhal | Timmeh: That whole thing bothers me. I know I have a TOTAL of 75 projects, but only like 40 are active. |
| 13:49.01 | Timmeh | yea |
| 13:49.04 | Torhal | Should also show comments in the issue list, IMO. |
| 13:49.29 | Timmeh | and perhaps the "builds" count should be changed to only show pending+processing |
| 13:49.47 | Timmeh | because the total number of builds doesn't really help anyone either |
| 13:49.50 | Torhal | The project listing should also only show Approved instead of all. |
| 13:50.53 | Timmeh | I have 4 projects, so I' |
| 13:50.57 | Timmeh | m OK with that list :-P |
| 13:59.32 | Timmeh | Torhal: another suggestion - I think that the "dependencies" lists of projects should show what kind of dependency it is (now you can only find out by filtering on the right type) |
| 14:00.14 | Torhal | I'm pretty sure I brought that up a few times when I was still on the dev team, but yeah. It's WAT right now. |
| 14:00.29 | Torhal | All polish stuff, though - will come later. |
| 14:00.35 | Torhal | Still a few fires to put out. |
| 14:00.53 | Timmeh | sure sure, just throwing at you guys what I run into, whatever you do with it is your concern :-P |
| 14:01.08 | quiescens | o.o |
| 14:01.10 | Torhal | I won't treat it like a quiescens cookie. |
| 14:01.19 | Timmeh | :-D |
| 14:01.25 | quiescens | everyone is so anti-cookie ): |
| 14:01.40 | Timmeh | I'm totally pro cookie! |
| 14:01.47 | Timmeh | in fact, I'm eating one right now! |
| 14:01.55 | Timmeh | well, multiple really |
| 14:02.12 | Timmeh | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kruidnoten |
| 14:04.11 | Timmeh | Torhal: have you considered making a project on wowace/curseforge with only an issue tracker, where we can just throw these things at you guys? you'd probably only need the statuses "rejected" and "migrated to internal issue tracker" or something |
| 14:04.37 | Timmeh | I'm sure there will be a lot of issues at the start of the new platform, it might save you guys a lot of filtering and duplicate information |
| 14:05.37 | Torhal | I doubt it. Have you seen some of the issues on other projects? |
| 14:05.46 | Torhal | I've personally had 15 IN A ROW that were the same thing :) |
| 14:06.37 | Torhal | Granted, this was from end-users and not devs so maybe it will be better if we did that. |
| 14:06.49 | Torhal | TL;DR, must post ticket NAO! |
| 14:08.24 | Timmeh | hah |
| 14:08.34 | Timmeh | yes, that was my point - it'd be devs reporting the issues, not end users |
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| 14:37.09 | nevcairiel | companies are often reluctant to offer issue trackers as it often ends in madness |
| 14:37.47 | Timmeh | yep, I realise that, which is why I asked whether they had considered it |
| 14:37.54 | Timmeh | I can totally understand if they don't want to |
| 14:37.58 | Timmeh | (not sure if I'd want to in their shoes) |
| 14:39.28 | nebula | didn't curseforge have an issue tracker at some point? |
| 14:39.59 | nebula | pretty sure shit sat there for years, but yea |
| 14:40.35 | nevcairiel | they did |
| 14:40.41 | nevcairiel | and right in the beginning it was also used |
| 14:40.46 | nevcairiel | but then they stopped working on cf |
| 14:40.47 | nevcairiel | so yeah |
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| 14:46.18 | nevcairiel | and yeah the project list is mad |
| 14:46.25 | nevcairiel | so many old things i even forgot i ever had |
| 14:51.01 | nevcairiel | easy fix would be to sort by last activity instead of name |
| 14:55.44 | Torhal | nevcairiel: There's a status filter that defaults to Any instead of Approved. That's also an easy fix :) |
| 14:55.58 | nevcairiel | but there are other things that may be of use |
| 14:56.10 | nevcairiel | like new and active moderation things like need changes or whatnot |
| 14:56.34 | nevcairiel | personally I would be happy to just get rid of abandoned by default =p |
| 14:57.15 | Torhal | That's another thing that needs re-added; there currently isn't any timeout mechanism like the legacy sites had. |
| 14:57.39 | Torhal | Also no way to say you don't care anymore aside from deleting. |
| 14:57.44 | nevcairiel | i'm sure that'll make some of those whiner people happy, they so dont like toc bumping their projects =p |
| 14:58.08 | quiescens | o.o |
| 14:58.29 | Torhal | You mean the "This IS NOT abandoned! WHY do I have to do this EVERY expansion?!?" people? |
| 14:58.35 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 14:58.48 | Torhal | Two years is Too Soon⢠man. |
| 15:01.23 | nevcairiel | i should check the forums if phanx has already written an essay on why everything sucks |
| 15:01.33 | nebula | it's coming |
| 15:02.04 | nebula | inb4 removing everything from curse to host on wowi exclusively |
| 15:02.28 | Torhal | I'm pretty sure she stopped using the site already. |
| 15:02.37 | Torhal | She had like four essays when it was still in beta. |
| 15:03.41 | nevcairiel | i never used any of her stuff, so would never notice |
| 15:05.25 | nebula | oh, she's unsubbed now |
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| 15:35.22 | wink | oh, legendaries were auto-upgraded to ilvl 910? wow |
| 15:36.13 | nevcairiel | yeah last reset |
| 15:37.10 | pompy | but cache is fkn with them apparently |
| 15:45.52 | Ermad | does the new Wowace site repos only have http git access? can't find out how to use ssh git access so it can use my public key instead of having to enter my un/pw each time I push |
| 15:46.13 | quiescens | /blame torhal |
| 15:46.20 | Torhal | DIAF quiescens |
| 15:46.25 | Torhal | Ermad: https only |
| 15:46.26 | quiescens | ): |
| 15:46.37 | quiescens | thats not very nice |
| 15:46.54 | Ermad | also my package doesnt have any librarier/dependacies, but it still made a nolibs version as well, anyway to disable that? |
| 15:46.55 | Torhal | Why isn't nice about Don't Instigate Any Fights? |
| 15:47.06 | Torhal | Ermad: Known issue, should be resolved on Monday. |
| 15:47.11 | Ermad | okay, thanks |
| 15:51.05 | Ermad | noticed another issue. I use a manual-changelog and on mods.curse.com it isn't showing ony of the line breaks in that changelog, even though it appears properly on wowace.com |
| 16:00.34 | Timmeh | Ermad: `man git-credential-store` |
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| 16:05.16 | Timmeh | or `man git-credential` for more generic stuff - you could implement your own helper to store things more secure |
| 16:08.54 | Stanzilla | if you use windows the git for windows package comes with microsofts cred manager |
| 16:08.56 | Stanzilla | which is pretty good |
| 16:09.18 | Timmeh | that does sound useful |
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| 16:10.17 | Stanzilla | even support 2fa |
| 16:13.20 | Torhal | Stanzilla: I changed the raid icon to be a texture, and replaced its old incarnation with a close button. |
| 16:13.30 | Torhal | But the client is serving up -nolib so yay. |
| 16:14.01 | Stanzilla | yay |
| 16:14.12 | Torhal | MOAR yay! |
| 16:16.48 | znf | who broke the curse? |
| 16:17.43 | Stanzilla | no one |
| 16:17.45 | Torhal | It was quiescens and his cookies. |
| 16:17.45 | Stanzilla | curse is still cursed |
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| 16:17.55 | quiescens | noes ): |
| 16:18.05 | znf | how am I supposed to update my addons now? |
| 16:18.12 | znf | oh, wait, I run disembedded anyway |
| 16:22.03 | znf | question |
| 16:22.12 | znf | why does the curse client keep saying that bigwigs is modified? |
| 16:22.15 | znf | I update it, still modified |
| 16:23.37 | nevcairiel | its called a bug |
| 16:23.59 | znf | why only bigwigs? :P |
| 16:27.01 | Ressy | they're special that they get to be extra bugged |
| 16:27.14 | quiescens | \o/ |
| 16:29.49 | EthanCentaurai | two years of beta testing and they can't even get the basics done correctly |
| 16:30.08 | nevcairiel | its not only bigwigs |
| 16:31.08 | znf | hmmm |
| 16:31.09 | znf | this is weird |
| 16:31.14 | znf | I was playing WOW |
| 16:31.23 | znf | and my screen blacked out, my monitor went all "no signal" |
| 16:31.30 | znf | game was still running, I was able to log on via teamviewer |
| 16:31.40 | quiescens | grats |
| 16:31.42 | znf | and rebooted, and stuff worked |
| 16:31.48 | znf | video driver or monitor crapping out? :-/ |
| 16:31.55 | znf | or gpu itself? |
| 16:31.55 | nevcairiel | maybe the graphics driver crashes |
| 16:32.03 | nevcairiel | sometimes turning the monitor on/off helps |
| 16:32.08 | znf | didn't work |
| 16:32.16 | nevcairiel | you can check the system log for a potential driver crash |
| 16:33.06 | znf | Display driver nvlddmkm stopped responding and has successfully recovered. |
| 16:33.30 | nevcairiel | sometimes it claims that but in fact the monitor got turned off for reasons |
| 16:33.39 | znf | "successfully" my ass |
| 16:34.01 | znf | I had this happen before, but back then teamviewer would have gotten me a black screen |
| 16:34.06 | znf | hasn't happened in months tough |
| 16:34.07 | nevcairiel | when you have multiple monitors then turning one off works because windows resets the screen layout |
| 16:34.19 | nevcairiel | with only one it might not do that |
| 16:34.31 | znf | yeah, don't have a 2nd one connected now |
| 16:34.37 | Ressy | Another reason to have more than 1 monitor. ;) |
| 16:34.46 | quiescens | mine doesn't do anything from turning a monitor off |
| 16:34.53 | quiescens | does if you unplug one |
| 16:34.59 | nevcairiel | sometimes it depends on the monitor |
| 16:35.04 | nevcairiel | some pretend to still be there if you turn them off |
| 16:35.06 | nevcairiel | some just go away |
| 16:35.14 | znf | btw, does amazon.de do that cyber monday thing? |
| 16:35.18 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 16:35.27 | znf | nice |
| 16:35.33 | znf | maybe I can get one of those dell monitors :-S |
| 16:35.41 | nevcairiel | starts tomorrow |
| 16:35.46 | quiescens | i feel like it would be a bit tedious if windows moved things around as though you had one monitor every time you turned them on or off out of sequence |
| 16:36.01 | nevcairiel | it is, but i dont usually turn them off |
| 16:36.07 | nevcairiel | and i only have icons on my main monitor |
| 16:37.21 | znf | Stanzilla broke this one http://i.imgur.com/qPqvqE8.png |
| 16:39.00 | Stanzilla | nope |
| 16:39.05 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla breaks all the things |
| 16:39.11 | Stanzilla | nope |
| 16:39.12 | quiescens | gasp |
| 16:40.15 | znf | Stanzilla, did I mention I got a 2nd legendary? |
| 16:40.19 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 16:40.29 | nevcairiel | it was impossible to miss your whining |
| 16:40.51 | znf | good |
| 16:43.03 | znf | I have 6 seals |
| 16:43.07 | znf | I completed the raid mission |
| 16:43.23 | znf | well, haven't "completed" it yet |
| 16:43.51 | znf | never really understood why it's just 6 seals as opposed to the usual 10 |
| 16:44.46 | nevcairiel | we need to start killing more things, i dont have bosses to use seals on =p |
| 16:46.16 | znf | I mostly use them on Xavius |
| 16:46.24 | znf | but I'm not convinced that trinket exists |
| 16:48.41 | nevcairiel | i could use one or two items from ilgynoth, but thats just one seal |
| 16:50.10 | znf | almost all bosses have a relic for me, except cenarius |
| 16:50.29 | znf | but I already have 865 all over the place, so it's a small chance to actually get an upgrade |
| 16:55.47 | nebula | Torhal: how do i see all of the translations for one phrase in the localization tool |
| 16:58.19 | Torhal | Huh. I can't find a way. |
| 16:58.41 | Torhal | It used to exist, when it had a shitty UI. |
| 16:58.47 | nebula | yes it did |
| 16:58.56 | nevcairiel | it used to just be the old UI in a even shittier look |
| 16:58.57 | Torhal | I mean, on the new site. |
| 16:58.58 | nevcairiel | then they redid it |
| 17:02.00 | Ressy | Yeahh.... |
| 17:02.05 | Ressy | Torhal, can you add a ticket to that? |
| 17:02.17 | znf | new curse! now with 50% more tickets |
| 17:02.17 | Ressy | Because if there's no way to see localizations, there's no way to 'fix' some. |
| 17:02.20 | Ressy | lmao |
| 17:03.13 | nevcairiel | seeing all locale for a given phrase doesnt seem that super important to me, a single person is unlikely to be able to read most of them =p |
| 17:03.40 | nebula | i was just looking to remove the single key stuff in the toc |
| 17:03.57 | nebula | cba to click through each locale individually |
| 17:04.19 | nevcairiel | so you want to delete a phrase? |
| 17:04.33 | quiescens | maybe nebula speaks all the languages |
| 17:04.54 | nebula | if it was translated for each language, possibly |
| 17:11.37 | Zeldo | Deleting the key from your main language should delete it for all, no? |
| 17:11.50 | Torhal | It should, yes. |
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| 17:13.29 | Zeldo | Ermad> noticed another issue. I use a manual-changelog and on mods.curse.com it isn't showing ony of the line breaks in that changelog, even though it appears properly on wowace.com |
| 17:13.31 | Zeldo | Ticketed |
| 17:15.17 | znf | that quest in Thunder Totem where you have to collect the drums is so annoying |
| 17:17.17 | Zeldo | 5:20:18 AM N<nebula> Torhal: any chance of them throwing up a legacy.wowace.com pages, images, and issue attachments are fucked and it would be nice to copy them from the old site |
| 17:17.29 | Zeldo | Iâve seen a few reports of a couple missing issues, but pages and images? |
| 17:17.34 | Ressy | So.... nolibs in Curse Client getting fixed today Zeldo? |
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| 17:21.08 | Fisker | I miss a person |
| 17:21.27 | Zeldo | <@nevcairiel> Zeldo: the new packager produces nolib files even if you don't have any libs in your project, that seems .. not ideal :) - I know. There is a ticket in for this. |
| 17:21.40 | Zeldo | You mean the client installing nolibs Ressy ? |
| 17:21.46 | Ressy | yes |
| 17:21.57 | Zeldo | It should have been fixed last night, they are looking into it now |
| 17:22.07 | Zeldo | To see if the cache failed to break or if its a seperate issue |
| 17:22.11 | Ressy | Latest ARL push (Wed, but only went up on Curse Client yesterday), is showign 339 nolibs, 39 libs. |
| 17:22.17 | Ressy | Which is backwards from normal. |
| 17:22.24 | Zeldo | Yea |
| 17:29.10 | nevcairiel | Zeldo: did you see the localization issue? |
| 17:29.22 | Zeldo | Yup |
| 17:29.25 | Zeldo | Was investigating |
| 17:29.31 | nevcairiel | okay |
| 17:29.50 | nevcairiel | its as basic as i mentioned, multi-line constants dont get any escaping |
| 17:30.03 | nevcairiel | or more precisely, should not =p |
| 17:31.54 | Zeldo | Okay, I will get a ticket in for that |
| 17:31.55 | Zeldo | Thanks :) |
| 17:32.20 | Fisker | Is this the place for putting in tickets? |
| 17:32.26 | Zeldo | and to respond to your comment, the person that wrote that knows Lua |
| 17:32.38 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 17:32.38 | Zeldo | Soâ¦. |
| 17:32.42 | nevcairiel | not well enough! |
| 17:32.43 | nevcairiel | ;) |
| 17:32.48 | Ressy | lol |
| 17:32.52 | Zeldo | But it was written years ago when the project was started |
| 17:33.02 | Ressy | Needs refresher? :P |
| 17:33.07 | Stanzilla | it was denny |
| 17:33.20 | Ressy | bad Denny |
| 17:33.48 | Zeldo | Fisker: Whatâs up? |
| 17:33.52 | Fisker | I love Denny's |
| 17:34.06 | Fisker | Nothing I just wanted to pile on |
| 17:34.29 | Torhal | Actually, I didn't write it. |
| 17:34.38 | Torhal | I tried to clean it up after the guy who did left. |
| 17:34.42 | Torhal | So ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
| 17:35.09 | Zeldo | I never said Denny wrote it :P |
| 17:36.28 | Stanzilla | I was trying to avoid highlighting Torhal for the bazillionsed time today while still blaming him |
| 17:36.31 | Stanzilla | I'm such a good person |
| 17:36.39 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/MApUWSr.png |
| 17:37.53 | znf | yay, nice |
| 17:37.56 | znf | weapon rank 33 |
| 17:37.59 | Fisker | You're gr8 Stanzilla |
| 17:38.03 | znf | time to put one more point in that useless mind sear! |
| 17:38.08 | Fisker | Would use you for pixels again |
| 17:38.18 | Stanzilla | "use" |
| 17:38.21 | Stanzilla | well thanks |
| 17:38.28 | Stanzilla | better than "abuse" though |
| 17:38.46 | Stanzilla | znf: always remember it becomes dot cleave dmg in the next patch! |
| 17:38.56 | nevcairiel | its dot cleave today |
| 17:39.01 | znf | Stanzilla, yes, but it's not useless! |
| 17:39.05 | znf | now* |
| 17:39.18 | Stanzilla | doesnt matter |
| 17:40.03 | znf | I'm more excited about the Vampiric Touch shield |
| 17:40.05 | Fisker | <3 Stanzilla |
| 17:43.41 | Stanzilla | Fisker: how well does the ghome work? I heard it doesnt do metric/celsius yet? |
| 17:43.43 | Stanzilla | which is weird? |
| 17:44.36 | Fisker | It does |
| 17:44.48 | Stanzilla | k |
| 17:45.09 | Stanzilla | I saw http://www.droid-life.com/2016/11/18/best-buy-google-home/ |
| 17:45.45 | Stanzilla | Torhal: honey you shrank the box http://i.imgur.com/GeAECs5.png |
| 17:46.12 | Torhal | I didn't change the size at all. |
| 17:46.23 | znf | pst, he's lying |
| 17:46.26 | Fisker | Where does it say that Stanzilla ? |
| 17:46.36 | Torhal | Yeah, Stanzilla does that frequently znf. |
| 17:46.37 | Stanzilla | Fisker: say what? |
| 17:46.47 | Fisker | That it doesn't work |
| 17:46.51 | Stanzilla | Torhal: ok why doesnt thte size of the box that has the name fit the full width/height |
| 17:46.58 | Stanzilla | Fisker: dunno where I read it |
| 17:47.02 | Stanzilla | was a few days ago |
| 17:47.56 | Torhal | Stanzilla: Because the area above it is for special text, such as Adventurer of Highmountain |
| 17:48.05 | Torhal | I'm sure you've seen that... |
| 17:48.08 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 17:48.09 | Stanzilla | hrm |
| 17:52.47 | Kemayo | In my adventures into toast re-purposing, I found that some of the ones like the transmog toast wind up looking more balanced, with/without extra text: https://media-elerium.cursecdn.com/attachments/114/302/sd-transmog.jpg |
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| 17:54.38 | Kemayo | (Nothing says "fun evening" quite like going through every atlas with "toast" in the name. :D ) |
| 17:55.22 | Torhal | But Vyragosa isn't fake! |
| 17:56.30 | Kemayo | Oh, that's because I took lots of my screenshots from my "show a preview" thing in options, which gives it a source of "fake" rather than claiming it's a vignette / target /whatever. Made it easier to filter it out of some other stuff elsewhere. |
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| 17:56.58 | Stanzilla | an illusion! |
| 17:57.18 | Kemayo | I remember before I added that, I used to keep a character parked down by Sergeant Brashclaw in Westfall, because it was the most reliably remote and always up rare I could find. :-P |
| 18:05.21 | Fisker | What are you hiding? |
| 18:05.43 | Kemayo | Many things... |
| 18:06.07 | Stanzilla | something's not quite right |
| 18:09.23 | Funkeh` | Zeldo, CC is also no longer picking up the latest bigwigs release |
| 18:09.33 | Funkeh` | it's stuck on a random alpha version from 2 days ago |
| 18:11.41 | Zeldo | headdesks |
| 18:11.43 | Zeldo | Okay, ty |
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| 18:16.17 | Funkeh` | Zeldo, now it's picking it up |
| 18:17.10 | Funkeh` | bartender must be totally fucked |
| 18:17.28 | Funkeh` | it still want's me to update to some random noname nolib alpha |
| 18:17.32 | Stanzilla | are you talking about the person that has to serve drinks in the curse office right now? |
| 18:17.33 | Stanzilla | :D |
| 18:18.09 | Funkeh` | dae91ea-alpha-nolib |
| 18:18.18 | Funkeh` | what is that even supposed to mean, the version is removed |
| 18:21.48 | nevcairiel | i deleted those files because they are broken, who knows what the CC does |
| 18:22.10 | nebula | i still see that in my client, too |
| 18:22.10 | Funkeh` | archived or deleted? |
| 18:22.34 | nevcairiel | Zeldo: deleting/archioving a parent file should delete all "additional files" too :) |
| 18:22.45 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 18:23.09 | Funkeh` | I wonder how many people now have totally fucekd installs |
| 18:23.41 | znf | only half of them |
| 18:23.47 | znf | half the people don't update unless it's patch day |
| 18:23.52 | Funkeh` | should have taken this opportunity to extinguish nolib as a feature |
| 18:23.59 | nevcairiel | delete the nolibns |
| 18:24.12 | Funkeh` | can't believe we've carried such a retarded thing for over a decade now |
| 18:24.19 | znf | I'm still running nolib :( |
| 18:24.22 | nebula | but the load times! |
| 18:24.44 | znf | they're irelevant! |
| 18:24.50 | znf | but I don't know how to get back to libs |
| 18:24.58 | nebula | i don't even remember the supposed benefit, i think that was it |
| 18:25.06 | Torhal | It was load times |
| 18:25.13 | nebula | and libs getting attributed with mem usage |
| 18:25.20 | Torhal | Oh, yeah |
| 18:25.22 | Torhal | That too |
| 18:25.36 | Funkeh` | except sometimes you want that |
| 18:26.00 | Stanzilla | I like some stuff no lib because some libs get updates while the addons that embed them do not |
| 18:26.05 | Stanzilla | so I have to update the lib itself |
| 18:26.21 | Funkeh` | that doesn't need lnolibs to exist |
| 18:26.27 | Funkeh` | you can just install the library as a separate addon |
| 18:26.31 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 18:28.41 | Stanzilla | but in those cases I install the addon nolib since I didnt want to have them twice |
| 18:28.42 | Stanzilla | but meh |
| 18:28.47 | Stanzilla | doesnt matter anyway with ssds |
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| 18:33.39 | znf | I don't know which fucks up - chrome or nvidia |
| 18:33.43 | znf | but videos keep breaking in chrome |
| 18:36.36 | Stanzilla | nvidia driver |
| 18:36.37 | Stanzilla | update it |
| 18:37.23 | Funkeh` | that's risky lately :D |
| 18:38.11 | nevcairiel | there was one broken driver =p |
| 18:38.41 | Stanzilla | there are broken drivers constantly |
| 18:38.57 | Stanzilla | because apperantly getting it right(TM) on Windows 10 is hard |
| 18:39.09 | nevcairiel | one that was really broken, not the "my game is running slow and the game devs are clearly not at fault" :p |
| 18:39.39 | Stanzilla | there are issues that are not that all the time though |
| 18:40.37 | znf | Stanzilla, I just did... 2 hours ago |
| 18:40.50 | Stanzilla | [x] vrekt |
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| 19:06.20 | znf | I need to change my mom's PC :-/ |
| 19:06.45 | Stanzilla | "change" |
| 19:07.05 | Stanzilla | what does that even mean |
| 19:09.04 | Funkeh` | https://torrentfreak.com/uk-piracy-blocklist-silently-expands-with-hundreds-of-domains-161120/ |
| 19:09.05 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 19:09.15 | Funkeh` | the creeping continues |
| 19:10.28 | Stanzilla | 8.8.8.8 |
| 19:10.48 | Funkeh` | real ISPs don't use DNS blocking |
| 19:11.08 | znf | Stanzilla, my mom's CPU died last night |
| 19:11.20 | znf | first time ever I see a dead CPU |
| 19:11.56 | znf | so I changed the mobo + cpu, a friend had a spare one |
| 19:12.04 | znf | only that it reboots constantly by itself :-/ |
| 19:12.07 | Fisker | I just died in your arms tonight |
| 19:12.40 | znf | so I think I'd rather just buy another pc for her |
| 19:13.44 | nebula | didn't uk pass some cyber snooping law in the past few days Funkeh`? like mandatory data retention and they can compel companies to give them info |
| 19:14.03 | Funkeh` | it's passed a certain stage yes |
| 19:14.06 | Funkeh` | it's not law yet |
| 19:14.49 | Funkeh` | but over the years Ive gradually helped those around me understand and improve their setups from using https everywhere to using signal |
| 19:15.01 | Funkeh` | could see this coming 10 years ago |
| 19:15.22 | Funkeh` | the one thing I really want to see go mainstream is DNS encryption |
| 19:15.36 | Funkeh` | DNScrypt is such a hack |
| 19:16.35 | Funkeh` | hoping google does some android bundling with this in the future https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/docs/dns-over-https |
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| 19:18.05 | Funkeh` | hopefully http/2 really takes off soon also since https everywhere shouldn't be needed either |
| 19:20.10 | znf | This fucking legendary doesn't work like it's supposed to |
| 19:29.14 | znf | dns over https is confusing |
| 19:29.47 | znf | doesn't https need dns before anything else? |
| 19:30.26 | nevcairiel | you can still connect via ip first |
| 19:31.13 | znf | yeah, but, how do you validate the cert? |
| 19:31.28 | znf | CAs stopped issuing certs for IPs, afaik |
| 19:32.06 | nevcairiel | you could just know both, name and ip |
| 19:32.41 | nevcairiel | or you use traditional dns to lookup your dns lookup site =p |
| 19:33.16 | nebula | dnsception |
| 19:33.58 | Funkeh` | that's why these implementation always need a local dns proxy |
| 19:34.13 | Funkeh` | we need something better than requiring installing a dns proxy |
| 19:34.51 | Funkeh` | https://www.simplednscrypt.org/ is probably the most popular atm |
| 19:35.15 | Funkeh` | but it's bad enough you need to install that, you then need to manually update it |
| 19:35.21 | Funkeh` | fuck telling people to do that |
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| 19:39.38 | wink | the "new" battlenet api is not too bad |
| 19:41.02 | znf | people are retarded |
| 19:41.18 | znf | my pug leader chewed me out because I didn't want to go to group assignment @ dragons... |
| 19:41.23 | znf | like, I multi-dot, you tard |
| 19:42.32 | nebula | multi-dot from your side, gah |
| 19:42.45 | znf | can't, tanks usually take them too far away |
| 19:43.17 | znf | I usually stay 10-15y away from my side, while being 30-35y away from the other one |
| 19:43.21 | znf | so I don't get stacks from the 2nd dragon |
| 19:47.43 | znf | guess I'm gonna get my mom a refurbished Xeon L5420 "desktop" |
| 19:57.21 | Funkeh` | chromebooks do well for mums |
| 19:58.02 | znf | that's 300⬠here |
| 19:58.42 | znf | and it's the shitty Lenovo N22-20 |
| 20:00.46 | znf | she doesn't have good eyes for a 11" screen :P |
| 20:01.21 | Funkeh` | pretty sure amazon ships to other countries |
| 20:01.35 | Funkeh` | at least Ive ordered from amazon de previously |
| 20:02.28 | Stanzilla | Antiarc: not sure if you are aware but http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info21597-3.0.0.html |
| 20:03.25 | znf | Funkeh`, well, yeah, but all the cheap ones are 11~12" |
| 20:03.31 | znf | and the 14" ones are 350+⬠|
| 20:03.38 | znf | for that I can buy a full-fledged laptop |
| 20:03.51 | Funkeh` | oh |
| 20:04.41 | znf | she complained that her 19" old monitor is too small, not going to get her an even smaller laptop :D |
| 20:05.58 | nevcairiel | laptops feel different, you usually sit closer then to monitors |
| 20:06.48 | znf | knowing my mom, she would probably use an usb keyboard and a usb mouse |
| 21:18.19 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/bzMHWE3.png |
| 21:18.21 | znf | nooo :( |
| 21:18.52 | nebula | now we know where you live |
| 21:19.10 | znf | so? |
| 21:19.32 | nebula | i got nothing |
| 21:19.45 | znf | seller is shady anywya :-/ |
| 21:20.43 | nevcairiel | he lives on neptun, good luck getting him thjere |
| 21:20.50 | znf | Stanzilla, wanna try? https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00P0EQD1Q/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A19A4QXPN77AC5 |
| 21:20.51 | znf | :> |
| 21:21.12 | Stanzilla | NEU ~Bitte Kontaktieren Sie uns vor der Bestellung Shopping33 @WEB. DE~ DANKE!! |
| 21:21.14 | Stanzilla | nope. |
| 21:21.16 | nevcairiel | people that say "conact us before order" are always scammers |
| 21:21.20 | Stanzilla | ^ |
| 21:21.37 | znf | How does that even make it on amazon? |
| 21:21.41 | znf | I don't get it |
| 21:21.45 | nevcairiel | sometimes they hijack existing stores |
| 21:21.51 | nevcairiel | i wonder if you can report them |
| 21:21.55 | znf | O.o |
| 21:23.54 | nebula | i've read that reporting shit on amazon doesn't really accomplish anything, need something like a c/d for them to look at it |
| 21:25.18 | Stanzilla | reports nebula |
| 21:36.36 | nebula | http://i.imgur.com/2JMl6sA.jpg first time i've seen that |
| 21:37.15 | Stanzilla | Torhal: I guess I would just put the achievement etc name at the bottom, the x to close not being in the top right corner is weird :D |
| 21:38.13 | Timmeh | nebula: I think they've done that for about 2-3 years now :-P |
| 21:38.18 | Timmeh | the reclaiming disk space stuff |
| 21:39.00 | Stanzilla | replace years with months and you are correct |
| 21:39.05 | nebula | i mean, one of the big complaints of casc is that it doesn't reclaim disk space, so it would be rather new |
| 21:39.12 | Stanzilla | its not that |
| 21:39.28 | nebula | what else is there to reclaim? |
| 21:39.34 | Timmeh | I've seen it when I still played WoW |
| 21:39.46 | Stanzilla | it's some halfasses pseudo thing from what I remember |
| 21:39.52 | Stanzilla | ask simca he/she/it knows |
| 21:40.10 | Timmeh | since I "quit" (there is no quitting, I'll be back in 6-12 months) in february 2015 |
| 21:40.13 | Timmeh | it must've been a while |
| 21:47.25 | Timmeh | random fact: waow exactly 100 people in this channel |
| 22:12.53 | Antiarc | Stanzilla: I am aware, yup |
| 22:13.01 | Antiarc | Don't care either way, they got me to update the mainline repo :) |
| 22:13.01 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 22:13.19 | Antiarc | In general I tend to MIT license my stuff so I don't care at all if people fork it |
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