IRC log for #wowace on 20161010

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01:30.01znfzarnivoop, there's some guy who's healing doesn't show up in Skada
01:30.03znfrecount does
01:30.08znfskada, for the whole group, doesn't
01:30.25znfzarnivoop, his name was [04:30:00] [Trangetrine-Magtheridon:1] says: 2. Trangetrine  69,470,392 (224155.9, 17.3%)
01:30.29znfnot sure if it's relevant in any way
01:39.35nebulahealing gets fucked up for some reason for our holy priest, shows negative percentages and if you click on it and back out the entry disappears entirely
01:39.57nebulashows two people listed as 1
01:40.22nebulaalways happens on xavius, not sure about other fights
02:05.21znfalso was on Xavius
02:06.22nebulaif i had to guess, i'd say it's something with getting mc'd
02:59.55quiescensi blame znf
03:00.11znf?
03:31.07StanzillaI need to stop watching Primitive Technology videos
03:31.29quiescensgo to sleep
03:31.34quiescens^^
03:32.28FiskerHey Stanzilla
03:35.48Stanzillahi
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03:45.39FiskerPoor Samsung?
03:46.39Stanzillamaybe a bit
03:48.11Fisker:P
04:10.37FiskerHow are our little babies Stanzilla ?
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04:51.11Repoice-hud: 03Parnic 07master * 1.10.8-3-g152a389 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits]
04:51.11Repo152a389: Added support for the Scale setting on mirror bars (ticket #228)
04:51.11Repo2c5ea0c: Extended scale range to 0.2-2.0 by request
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05:49.48quiescensgives blu a cookie
05:51.50blulazycow*noms it*
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06:28.11zarnivoopznf, nebula: seems to be something with holy priests and some particular boss in Skada. have not gotten any helpful combatlogs or such though, so no clue.
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08:08.48blulazycowwork tiems!
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11:12.25znfzarnivoop_, https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B02c8ixKhr0rREczWmIyRUVvbWc
11:12.42znfzarnivoop_, Trangetrine is the priests name
11:15.40zarnivoop_znf: cheers. any hints on when it happens?
11:15.52znfno idea :-/
11:15.55zarnivoop_also, PSA, do not open wow combat logs with gedit
11:16.08znfthere were 2 tries with that guy, I think
11:16.34znfhttps://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/6VdD9Mq4ACRK2cL7
11:16.40znfyou can filter here more easily, I think
11:16.51znfor, rather, just browse events and then match it in the log
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12:05.27znfGnarfoz, how to fix this shit? http://i.imgur.com/DrksdW3.png
12:15.19mitch0provide correct username and password, duh
12:18.18znfwell, I'm starting it from vSphere...
12:18.35znfseeing that I'm already logged in to that, I don't think there's another username/password to provide
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13:21.02Repoangry-world-quests: 03Ermads 07master * v0.15.0  (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Updated locales
13:21.03Repoangry-world-quests: 03Ermads 04v0.15.0 * 02ea850 /: [new tag] Tagging as 0.15.0
13:26.04znfErmad!
13:26.30znfCan we have a note of elite world quests that expire after the new AK level is ready?
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14:29.01Gnarfozno idea what mks even is
14:29.25Gnarfozgoogle mentions it in connection to vmware workstation, which isn't vsphere
14:30.30Gnarfozalso mentions port 902/903 firewall issues and DNS resolution issues
14:31.03Gnarfozhttps://support.ravellosystems.com/hc/communities/public/questions/204984728-Unable-to-connect-to-the-MKS-Login-username-password-incorrect
14:31.22Gnarfozhttps://community.spiceworks.com/how_to/106571-unable-to-connect-to-the-mks-login-username-password-incorrect
14:31.22Gnarfozetc
14:34.07znfI port forwarded those
14:34.09znfstill nothing
14:34.18znfI found those, too, didn't help :-/
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14:43.55znfGnarfoz, so basically vSphere client is dumb as fuck?
14:44.04znfIt wants to communicate with the host directly
14:44.09Gnarfozport forward? why
14:44.12Gnarfozof course it does
14:44.22znfI have a vSphere server, and 3 hosts
14:44.32znfI'm not in that network/lan, I'm remoting
14:44.48znfI can connect to the vSphere client, on it's public IP address
14:44.53Gnarfozuhm... what
14:44.57Gnarfozyou're not making sense
14:44.57znfbut the hosts don't have public IP addresses
14:45.07znfto the vSphere server*
14:46.06znfme --- (public internet) --> vSphere Server --> (local addresses) --> host1 ~~ host2 ~~ host3
14:46.21znfobviously I can't reach the hosts directly
14:51.04Gnarfozthe vsphere server is on the internet?
14:51.13Gnarfozwell, good luck with that
14:52.02Gnarfozmaybe the vsphere web client (which will replace the fat client some day anyway) can do it... but I'm not so certain. it also uses a plugin to do remote console
14:52.17Gnarfozthe sane solution would be to VPN into that network
14:52.18znfit uses html5 these days
14:52.22Gnarfozno it doesn't
14:52.29znfhuh? pretty sure it does?
14:52.30Gnarfozthat's a vsphere fling
14:52.37Gnarfozit's a big fat flash monstrosity
14:52.53Gnarfozand the console uses a plugin regardless, I think, but I'm not sure on that
14:53.04Gnarfozhttps://labs.vmware.com/flings/vsphere-html5-web-client
14:53.12Gnarfoz^ unsupported beta stuffs
14:53.21znflet me check it
14:53.27znfI'm 99% sure it wasn't flash
14:53.38znfif it was flash, it would have supported "special" keys
14:53.40Gnarfozit can do console now, apparently, but anyway. this is not something people just have
14:54.10Gnarfozthe regular 6.0 vsphere web client is still a flash abomination, even though the 6.0 is a lot faster than the 5.5 one
14:54.24znfit's not fun on a linux vm without being able to use Ctrl and Alt properly
14:54.29Gnarfozand AFAIR both of them still use a browser plugin for remote console
14:54.46Gnarfozctrl... yeah, but why alt ^^
14:55.30znfit's canvas http://i.imgur.com/1d1ZaJT.png
14:56.08GnarfozI have no idea what I'm looking at there.
14:56.57znfGnarfoz, it's "html5"
14:57.10Gnarfozit's not, unless you installed the fling thing somewhere
14:57.22Gnarfozor there was a new vsphere release that I missed
14:57.48Gnarfozhttp://wahlnetwork.com/2015/02/02/vsphere-6-web-client/
14:57.55Gnarfozdoes it look like that?  ^^
14:57.56znfit's 5.5
14:58.17Gnarfozin 5.5 it's most definitly flash because that's what we have
14:58.22znfuhm
14:58.28znfwe're talking about different things
14:58.32Gnarfozseems like we are
14:58.32znfI'm talking just about the console
14:58.40znfI mean, the "remote console"
14:58.50znfnot the actual vSphere client, I don't give a fuck about that
14:59.37Gnarfozand you don't have the "client integration plugin" installed?
14:59.46znfI don't
14:59.52znfdoubt it would run in Chrome anyway
14:59.55Gnarfozit does
15:00.09Gnarfozwithout it, you can't do SSO
15:00.15znfhttp://i.imgur.com/7LO2RwD.png
15:00.18Gnarfozthat is, use your Windows session credentials
15:00.28znfI don't use that anyway
15:00.36GnarfozI'm on holiday, so I won't go look that up  :D
15:01.01Gnarfozactually, I almost did, but then I remembered I actually turned my desktop off. saved
15:01.02Gnarfoz:D
15:01.04znfbut, anyway, the "remote display" still runs html
15:01.21Gnarfozpretty sure the "magic" happens in some blob
15:01.35Gnarfozjust because they use <canvas> instead of <object>... doesn't mean it's suddenly webrtc or something
15:01.43znfanyway, it works in the browser
15:01.46znfbut not with the vsphere client
15:01.57Gnarfozthat's... interesting
15:01.57znfand using it without special keys is driving me crazy
15:02.08Gnarfozthe browser thing doesn't support ctrl? :o
15:02.15GnarfozI've barely ever used it, can't say
15:02.22znfwhen I do ctrl+a, for example, the browser intercepts it
15:02.28znfor ctrl+u
15:02.47znfor, the most important - ctrl+C
15:02.50Gnarfozwasn't there a setting/hotkey to make those go to websites? (i.e. in general, not for vsphere)
15:03.03GnarfozI mean, ctrl+s works on hastebin
15:03.07znfI literally had to open a new console, and kill a ping command
15:03.07Gnarfozand ctrl+n
15:03.14Gnarfozeven though those are both valid hotkeys for my browser
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15:03.22znfprobably badly implemented
15:04.15Gnarfozcan you RDP to the vsphere server?
15:04.19Gnarfozor is it a VSA
15:04.30Gnarfoz(the linux appliance)
15:05.08Gnarfoz(not that RDP over the internet is a good idea... actually it's a TERRIBLE idea)
15:05.11znfyou can rdp to it?
15:06.50Gnarfozregular vsphere servers are Windows based
15:06.51Gnarfozso yes
15:07.31Gnarfozmhhhm cookies & coffee.
15:08.06znfVMware vCenter Server Appliance
15:08.10znfguess it's vsa?
15:09.12Repoangry-keystones: 03Ermads 07master * v0.2.0  (3 files in 1 directory): [+3 commits]
15:09.12Repofe442d2: Uses CriteriaInfo for tooltip replacement
15:09.12Repobde22d6: Added de and ru locales
15:09.12Repobaa005c: Adds progress tooltips for locales missing translation
15:09.26Repoangry-keystones: 03Ermads 04v0.2.0 * 904aa82 /: [new tag] Tagging as 0.2.0
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16:32.11Gnarfozznf: yeah, that sounds like the linux/vpostgres appliance
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17:03.30GnarfozErmad: idea for AWQ: right-clicking the AP, OR and Gold filter icons doesn't do anything, yet. maybe that could switch from alphabetical sorting to sorting by reward value? highest AP/OR/Gold first?
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18:28.23Stanzilla[US] Legion Developer Q&A- Friday, October 14
18:28.27Stanzillaaka grill Watcher time
18:30.05nevcairielgot the general melee dps legendary belt <.<
18:31.12FiskerHey Stanzilla
18:31.25FiskerGot zero legendaries nevcairiel
18:31.44Fiskerhttps://youtu.be/eS_korRhTDk
18:31.45FiskerDo it
18:32.08Stanzillagrats nevcairiel
18:32.28EthanCentauraiwait, there are legendaries in this expansion?
18:32.36Stanzillano
18:32.45EthanCentauraididn't think so
18:34.04FiskerI certainly didn't see any
18:34.17StanzillaFisker: good song
18:34.25Fiskery
18:34.27FiskerGood video
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18:44.57quiescensmoo?
18:48.11EthanCentauraimeow
18:48.33Fiskerhugs Cairenn for free
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19:08.37Gnarfoznevcairiel: grats (which one is that?)
19:08.58nevcairielhttp://www.wowhead.com/item=133976/cinidaria-the-symbiote
19:16.20GnarfozI see
19:16.32Gnarfozbasically free 3% damage?
19:16.43Gnarfoznot much, but not nothing
19:16.52Stanzillailvl
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19:18.45znfIs that cool?
19:18.46Gnarfozand that, of course
19:18.47znfIt's not?
19:18.53nevcairielits not very cool
19:18.57znfoh :(
19:19.02znfso ilvl stick, just as mine
19:19.08Gnarfozit's moderately cool
19:19.23znfI found out that mine works for mounting, too
19:19.27nevcairielmost other choices would be better, except the generic ring or neck of course
19:19.28znfif I have the proc, I can mount while running
19:19.36Gnarfozabout as useful as my http://www.wowhead.com/item=132443
19:19.44nevcairielheh
19:19.49nevcairielour warrior got that one
19:19.53quiescensnerf znf
19:19.59znfI would like that as a non-legendary :D
19:20.05znfwith the amount of haste I get
19:20.07Gnarfozit's fun because with Crusade I get up to 52.5% increased haste during "wings"
19:20.15Gnarfozor during BL
19:20.19Gnarfozzoooooooooooom
19:20.21znfI got too much haste during BL
19:20.25Gnarfozsame
19:20.26znfI go over 160% :-/
19:20.39GnarfozCorstillax in Arcway is also fun
19:20.48Gnarfozwhen you collect the Nightwell Energy or what it's called
19:21.10znfuhm?
19:21.12Gnarfozridiculuous movement speed
19:21.13znfyou get that in the bubble?
19:21.21Gnarfozbubble?
19:21.25Gnarfozthe pools on the ground
19:21.36znfcorstillax is the construct, yes?
19:21.42GnarfozI think so?
19:21.50Gnarfozthe one with a prison you have to click
19:21.55znfyou get shit from pools on the floor?
19:21.57znfO.o
19:22.07Gnarfozznf learning Legion dungeons 8 weeks in
19:22.08Gnarfoz:D
19:22.10znfwe usually just pull in the bubble from the adds anyway
19:22.28znfI don't get to do the Nightfallen ones too often
19:22.31Gnarfozyou keep an add alive for that the entire fight?
19:22.56znfnah, we just pull when the bubble is popped last
19:23.27Gnarfoz"About 15 seconds into the fight, and again at 30- or 60-second intervals thereafter, an  Energy Burst will spill  Nightwell Energy into the encounter area." -> http://www.wowhead.com/spell=195362/nightwell-energy 15% haste, stacking
19:24.19znfoh, ok
19:24.21znfcool
19:24.39Repobroker-specializations: 03Shenton 07master * v1.1.5-1-g87eba20  (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Fixed my derp with automation
19:25.02Gnarfozgood idea to keep one of the bubbles up, too, though
19:25.05Gnarfozgood for mythic+
19:25.14Gnarfozmore deeps
19:25.53Gnarfozwe haven't even gotten into doing any particular tricks, yet...
19:26.33Repobroker-specializations: 03Shenton 04v1.1.6 * 603f8b3 /: [new tag] Tagging as v1.1.6
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20:00.17EthanCentauraiwhat is Arcway?
20:01.20Gnarfozone of the dungeons in Legion
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21:30.28znf"Proceed as far as you can into the collapse"
21:30.33znfMayhem! YOLO!
21:30.45Megalondo a 180
21:30.47Megalonand jump down
21:30.49MegalonLOL
21:32.05znfthe scenario seems better now
21:32.12znfI notice that Berserkers actually interrupt Leystalker
21:33.30Stanzillayeah
21:33.39Stanzillait's super eez with all the upgrades
21:34.15Megalonyea, not sending 10 withered back every 10 yards helps :D
21:35.05znfnow I just start with 400 mana :D
21:35.23Megaloncan't even be bothered to do that really
21:35.33Megalonbut i guess you can get one of your appearances from it?
21:35.41znfnah
21:35.45znfI do it for the +AP
21:36.35Megalondoes that depend on score?
21:36.55znfyes :(
21:36.58znfI think?
21:37.04Megalonmy last scenario locked up
21:37.05nebulareally? thought you got one at the end regardless
21:37.17Megalonafter the leystalker key door
21:37.23Megalonthe one after did not open
21:37.35Megalonbecause my withered killed the mob in the center of the room without me
21:37.36Megalonlol
21:37.58Megalonor is there another thing that has to happen :C
21:38.22znfhttps://gfycat.com/ColossalThirdGosling
21:38.28nebulai think you just kill that silkwitch and it opens
21:39.04Megaloni cleared the room
21:39.39Megalonas in i ran around the wall and spammed swipe
21:39.45Megalonwithered killed the center mob
21:39.50Megalondoor did not open :s
21:43.52znfI'm really sorry I didn't think of macro'ing PW:S to my berserker earlier
21:59.44StanzillaMegalon: I do it for the toys
21:59.52Stanzillarun in and run out for 400
22:00.27Megalonhow many toys are there to get from?
22:00.31Stanzilla7
22:00.53Gnarfoz"run out" of what?
22:01.10Gnarfozyou can just talk to alyssra again to finish the scenario
22:01.15Gnarfoz(if you want to do it with 0 score)
22:01.16Stanzillathat's what I meant
22:01.19Gnarfozah ok
22:01.25Stanzillahi and bye
22:01.29Gnarfozthought you were doing it the hard way for some reason ^^
22:01.35Stanzillanah
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22:01.58Stanzillayou can outrange them if you cba midway though
22:02.00GnarfozI'm not sure if I should do it for some score or not... prot hidden appearance is in there, but it's probably just RNG
22:02.01StanzillaI sometimes do that
22:02.05Gnarfozyeah, same
22:02.17Gnarfozor when Dro was not fixed, yet
22:02.51nevcairieli usually do some score for an improved AP item
22:05.07GnarfozI only noticed the chest is bigger at the end
22:05.12Gnarfoznot sure how much you need for that
22:05.21Gnarfoz(probably the same 375 you need for 425 rep?)
22:06.17nevcairieli usually do 375
22:09.16Ironiidoesn't the artifact drop from one of the 10 minion chests?
22:09.52znfno
22:10.20Gnarfoznah, prot pally hidden appearance is from the reward chest
22:10.29Ironiii guess it was just rng
22:10.40Ironiii just got it from the same run that i looted my last big chest
22:10.49Ironiiassumed it was from the 10 chest
22:10.52Megalonone 5er chest gives an ap token
22:11.35Gnarfoz~wowitem 139565
22:11.35purlhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=139565 http://www.wowdb.com/item.aspx?id=139565
22:12.25Gnarfoz.5% :(
22:12.55Megalonit says 26%
22:12.56Gnarfozalso, make sure to laugh at anyone citing wowhead drop rates
22:12.57znfit counts non-paladins, too >_<
22:13.05Gnarfozthat includes Megalon
22:13.20znfwe need wowhead comments and theme
22:13.23znfand wowdb data source
22:13.24Megalonwhy would you click the wowdb link lol
22:13.41Gnarfozbecause I did that ~wowitem thing intentionally to not have to paste two links!
22:13.51GnarfozI checked both sites before even doing that ;P
22:13.53znfwowdb mines drop rates from the curse client
22:14.06Gnarfozthat's what the wowdb profiler is for, of course
22:14.14Gnarfozwhy would I use the buggy wowhead looter
22:14.37Gnarfozjust one more drop in the bucket of things that went too far downhill with wowhead
22:14.54Gnarfoz(comments are indeed the primary amazing thing)
22:15.08znfI still dislike the color scheme of wowdb
22:15.14Gnarfozyeah what the hell.
22:15.23Gnarfozat least have an option for dark background
22:15.33GnarfozI bet there's a userstyle
22:15.47znfif I weren't too lazy, I would do a mash-up
22:15.51znfbut perculia would get mad
22:15.51znf:D
22:16.16nebulafucking curse copying all things wowhead
22:19.17Gnarfozand having "contracts" with people to not use the competition for db links
22:20.13Gnarfoz(guess what? if you do the guides yourself, there's nobody to tell "if we link to you, you'll link to us, right?")
22:21.31znfshht
22:21.33znfgo away with your logic
22:21.49znfoh noes, the water pylon shit
22:22.00znfI hate that quest with passion
22:22.57winkdammit, 3rd time I'm stuck in a root in Legion. that never happened in all of Pandaria
22:23.07winkapparently they have new level designers :P
22:23.26Gnarfozshift your way to freedom!
22:24.01StanzillaFisker: http://www.theverge.com/2016/10/10/13236400/samsung-shutting-down-note-7-sales-worldwide
22:24.04Stanzillathe rippening :D
22:24.26Megalonthey'll fix it
22:25.52Stanzillayeah and you know how
22:25.55Stanzillanote 8 next month :D
22:25.58Gnarfoz~wowitem 139564
22:25.59purlhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=139564 http://www.wowdb.com/item.aspx?id=139564
22:30.59znfnevcairiel, if party frames are created in combat in suf, their position is wrong (mine get created about 200 pixels off screen)
22:31.14nevcairielsucks to be  you
22:31.15nevcairiel:D
22:31.22nevcairieli dont use party frames
22:31.23znffix? :(
22:32.18Gnarfozdon't create stuff in combat, done!:D
22:32.30znfparty invites in combat!
22:33.08znfthere's a few annoyances/quirks that I've been noticing in suf for a while
22:33.32znfthe most frequent one is this party frames thing
22:33.44znfit probably has to do with the anchoring point, I use right-side of the screen
22:34.02nebulaznf: that happens with default grid frames, too
22:34.05Gnarfozcreating secure stuff in combat has always been a troublesome area
22:34.41Gnarfoz(although one would hope those frames are already 'created', but I guess showing/hiding them is just as much an issue)
22:35.12nebulait all happens in the secure env, but still breaks sometimes
22:35.52znfthe other thing I notice very often is when my target is changing it's target while its previous target is casting a spell
22:36.15znftargettarget's casting bar will still show up as casting, even tough it switched to a new unit
22:37.10GnarfozI don't use SUFs castbars at all, can't comment ;O
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