IRC log for #wowace on 20160825

00:00.40Stanzilla"not too disruptive"
00:00.47Torhal:/
00:00.55Megalonguess i could expand that config to ignore all or cd 1/2
00:01.42Stanzillayeah super helpful those forums with 0 threads
00:02.02TorhalIt was short notice, and they don't have an importer ready yet.
00:05.11XuerianOh boy, more new platform stuff
00:05.52TorhalThis one was forced due to security concerns, unfortunately. No prep time. :/
00:08.59StanzillaTorhal: doesnt MMOC use the same forum software?
00:09.20TorhalThat's the Media Division, but yes.
00:09.38Stanzillaand no security concerns over there?
00:09.56TorhalI'm not part of the Media Division, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
00:10.17TorhalBasically separate companies, just not really.
00:12.36nevcairielIt's always fun to see the same shit in every company. Hey we've been vulnerable for weeks now, but now that we know we need to implement some half assed 5minute solution instead of taking an hour to think :D
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00:32.33znfdances with Stanzilla
00:44.24GnarfozMegalon: are you sure you're not fucking around with broker_garrison? :P that option is disabled by default and it's still disabled... but as soon as professiontrack is loaded, I get a fancy lightshow in broker_garrison :D
00:44.50GnarfozMegalon: right, of course forgot to include the link. https://gfycat.com/EnlightenedCluelessFlee
00:49.42nevcairielI think the tooltip colors going all wonky was a problem in qtip
00:49.50nevcairielTorhal might know
00:49.58nevcairielOr maybe sb's fault
00:50.09nevcairielI got that without Megalon addons
00:50.18Repoappearancetooltip: 03Kemayo 07master * v13-3-gac8e6c9  (3 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Preview appearance from class tokens
00:50.33TorhalIt is LibQTip. Somehow the FontStrings are being recycled without being reverted and I keep forgetting to track it down.
00:50.53Gnarfozfirst time seeing it and I can make it go away by turning off Megalon's addon... so... that means up until now I only had one addon using LibQTip?
00:51.15TorhalI've never seen it spazz out quite so spectacularly.
00:51.21TorhalThat's a special kind of WAT.
00:51.28Gnarfoz(or: only now have I got one that uses obviously colored fontstrings)
00:51.44TorhalUsually it's just a word or two that has an off color.
00:51.50TorhalMost times, nothing is amiss.
00:52.09Gnarfozit's probably because that thing updates once a second
00:52.36TorhalMayhap.
00:53.04Gnarfozif I turn off class colours in professiontrack, it because invisible
00:53.10Gnarfozbut it's probably still happening. :D
00:53.55TorhalWell yeah - it's still recycling FontStrings and frames between the tooltips. They just aren't colored by another tooltip first :)
01:05.20Megaloni always get a fancy lightshow in broker garrison
01:07.52Repoprofession-track: 03Starfox 07master * v1.5-2-g91ed605 ProfessionTrack.lua: [+2 commits]
01:07.52Repo91ed605: Don't count ignore chars/cooldowns towards for the number in the LDB text
01:07.52Repoba74e51: Make ignore a dropdown instead of a toggle, still needs to ignore selected cooldown
01:08.08Megalonit only does that with profession track installed? :D
01:08.55Megaloni always thought it was something with sb's addon, because my toolstips don't go colorapeshit :S
01:12.34Gnarfozbecause he doesn't use colors in his
01:12.45Repoprofession-track: 03Starfox 07master * v1.5-3-ge67ab35 ProfessionTrack.lua: [+1 commit] Don't show ignored CD icons in the tooltip either
01:12.58Megalonof course, the chars can be colored by class
01:13.00Gnarfoz(or because you don't periodically update your tooltip every 1 second?)
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01:13.23Gnarfozand he has a ton more fontstrings there than you do, depending on # of active missions
01:13.24Megalonthat's the only color thing i use too
01:13.34Gnarfozanyway, Torhal already admitted it's his fault <3
01:13.49Megalonther now you can ignore a full char oor only one of the cooldowns foz
01:14.55Megalonthe ignore should now be a little dropdown instead of a toggle
01:18.31Megalonshould i do something when the tooltip gets released as a temp fix? :o
01:28.43TorhalNope. They're being stored un-cleaned for some reason. I really need to investigate.
01:28.52TorhalOr just write -2.0 on a Git repo.
01:28.53Torhal:D
01:32.47nevcairielThat doesn't fix the issue in addons for us tho! :P
01:35.57Torhal:/
01:36.09TorhalIt'll be my Ace2.
01:36.10Torhal>.>
01:36.30Megalon<@Torhal> Nope. They're being stored un-cleaned for some reason.
01:36.36Megalonglad we were not talking about underwear
01:36.56TorhalEww.
01:38.43nevcairielYou could rewrite the internals with the same public API :€
01:39.06TorhalI could, but that would mean I'm still stuck on SVN.
01:39.10Torhal>.>
01:39.15nevcairielThis is true
01:39.38TorhalIt would be nice if there was a protocol-agnostic way to say "GIVE ME THE FILES"
01:39.45nevcairielOr just say fuck it and do what you want :D
01:39.55Megalonwell, if he is a pirate...
01:40.10nevcairielYeah but then again new features on this hosting site of ours....
01:40.59XuerianAre we getting improvements to the localization system? >_>
01:41.20TorhalImprovements?
01:41.21nevcairielWhat's wrong with it
01:41.32TorhalThat's a very broad question.
01:41.44XuerianI duno, only pain points I have with it right now are importing new/updating existing locale strings ina  quick way
01:41.59Torhalo.O
01:42.05nevcairielI scripted that so don't notice anything of that
01:42.19XuerianProbably a function of not knowing the intended workflow clearly
01:44.56TorhalXuerian: My workflow is to have a devel-enUS.lua file that has all of my key/values, that's gated behind @debug@ with the "live" enUS behind @non-debug@
01:45.07TorhalWhen I add/remove things from my dev version, I import it to the site.
01:45.15Megalonmhmmm
01:47.18nevcairielThat seems convoluted
01:47.27nevcairielWhy bother maintaining that file
01:48.05TorhalIt's easier than using the UI on the site
01:48.23TorhalCopy/paste, done.
01:48.37nevcairielI suppose
01:48.57pompyTorhal: remember that time when.
01:49.11Xuerian"It's easier than using the UI on the site" I mean that right there is probably a good hint at what could be improved :p
01:49.13TorhalYou ate the phrases six years ago?
01:49.18pompyyes
01:49.38XuerianI did the "ate the phrases" thing a while back when I restructured all my localization, that was fun
01:50.01TorhalXuerian: Well, not entirely. You can't just add/remove things with one action using the UI. You have to click create phrase, then type in the key, then type in the value, then click submit
01:50.02pompyand there was no "batch restore" feature
01:50.03TorhalThen do it again.
01:50.19pompyprobably still isn't
01:50.21nevcairielJust importing the phrases again should restore them
01:50.30Torhalnevcairiel: That's what I ended up doing IIRC.
01:50.36TorhalBut that was six years ago, so...
01:51.08TorhalOh, awesome.
01:51.16TorhalFunkeh`: Cannot find file on local disk, cannot examine.
01:52.04Funkeh`Torhal, what?
01:52.17TorhaloRA3
01:52.21TorhalIt's in the queue with that message.
01:52.34TorhalAnd now it's gone
01:52.37Torhalo.O
01:52.40Funkeh`It's already available, I don't know what you're talking about
01:53.05TorhalApparently the "These people are okay to bypass moderation" feature does weird shit
01:53.09TorhalIt hit the moderation queue.
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01:53.31Funkeh`temporarily?
01:53.37TorhalAnd now it's just gone.
01:53.38TorhalYeah
01:53.43TorhalBut it had that message.
01:53.46Funkeh`maybe that's just how it works /shrug
01:53.46TorhalSo...yeah.
01:53.53nevcairielUntil someone approved it maybe? :D
01:54.03TorhalDunno, but I got dinged that there was something in the queue and saw that. Weird.
01:54.09TorhalNo, I'm the one on shift.
01:54.17TorhalIt would be me approving.
01:54.26TorhalI have Funkeh` in the list of "Trusted Users" that can bypass the queue.
01:54.31nevcairielDon't you still have random community helper people
01:54.32TorhalSince he's doing direct uploads now
01:54.45Funkeh`Im surprised that's a thing
01:54.49TorhalThey generally don't get a chance. Within 10 seconds of something hitting the queue, I know.
01:57.32TorhalFunkeh`: It's been a thing for about eight years, but it was never used until I added you and a few others very recently.
01:57.51Funkeh`did you add nebula
01:57.58TorhalYeah
01:58.25TorhalNew site will have the same thing; I pretty much insisted on it because they're doing away with the concept of "repository users skip the queue"
01:59.29Funkeh`we're special snowflakes
01:59.45TorhalHeh
01:59.56Megalonawwww
02:03.06StanzillaTorhal: so repo built zips will have to be approved, too?
02:03.25TorhalYep.
02:03.34TorhalUnless you're on the whitelist, that is.
02:03.49StanzillaI'm pretty white, do I make the list?
02:03.55TorhalGo go increased workload!
02:04.10TorhalNo, Stanzilla. In fact, I'm going to delete your projects for racism.
02:04.16pompydo it.
02:04.18Megaloni know my prestine, faultless code will be autoapproved
02:05.05XuerianTorhal: it's just job security
02:05.36TorhalHeh.
02:05.39Megalonyea for those 1€-jobbers they hire to hit the approve buttons
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02:14.23TorhalFunkeh`, nevcairiel, Stanzilla - If you all are good with it, I'll turn off the moderation alerts for WowAce; let that shit be community-driven again.
02:17.00TorhalAnd nebula, if he's interested. We don't have many moderators anymore, and the ones we do haven't been able to do so in two years.
02:17.44nevcairielSounds good
02:18.16nebulainteresting in what now, approving stuff?
02:18.23nebulainterested* even
02:18.30TorhalIn the old style, yes.
02:18.43TorhalAs in "Don't hard-embed your libs" and so on and so forth.
02:19.09StanzillaI don't care much, I basically stopped approving stuff when you guys got paid people on the job that were always faster than me
02:19.24TorhalI had a talk with Zeldo today and explained what happened due to the 24/7 coverage, and he said if I wanted I could revert to the way things were for WowAce.
02:19.42TorhalThe problem with that approach was this may as well have just been CurseForge.
02:19.47nevcairielWell that's often hard to figure out for new addons, unless we enforce experimental first for everyone I guess
02:20.02TorhalYeah
02:20.36TorhalThe new site doesn't even show a project to moderators until it has one file, so that'll be an improvement
02:20.50nevcairielInteresting
02:20.54nebulafinally
02:21.06TorhalI actually made that change when I did the new stuff.
02:21.24TorhalToo many years of "Seriously?"
02:21.52TorhalSo... nebula?
02:22.31nebulauhhhh, sure
02:22.37Torhallol
02:24.30TorhalOk, you have privs now
02:25.00nebulacan i ban Stanzilla?
02:25.22TorhalNo, but you can change his localizations and set his repos to open.
02:25.31nebulaclose enough
02:36.20quiescensthats not very nice
02:40.07TorhalIt was all for you, though, quiescens. :/
02:43.48Megalonsets quiescens's vascular system to open
02:43.56TorhalOk, I flipped the switch so WowAce is off the moderation alerter's radar.
02:53.25pompy:O
03:05.57Stanzillahis name is Torhal and he is the flipper of switches
03:06.42TorhalThat's not all I flip, Stanzilla!
03:06.47Torhal┻━┻ ︵ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ︵ ┻━┻
03:06.57Stanzillammmmmmmulti switch
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03:23.08Repoappearancetooltip: 03Kemayo 07master * v13-4-g09599ca addon.lua: [+1 commit] Don't override token if link failed
03:34.14Megalonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrRYDzuwa-Q lol
03:34.20Repolibarmortoken-1-0 (experimental): 03Kemayo 07master * 875bb9f LibArmorToken-1.0.lua: [+1 commit] Syntax error on table insert
03:34.21Megalonvince mcmahon makes everything better
03:35.06KemayoIt's the problem with writing a library somewhere where your computer doesn't have wow installed.
03:49.01quiescens\o/
03:53.43Megalonuninstalls quiescens
03:56.21Repoappearancetooltip: 03Kemayo 07master * v13-5-gba63978 addon.lua: [+1 commit] Preview properly for tokens not for your class
04:34.55StanzillaKemayo: did you talk with kruithne on maybe collaborating for that armor token lib?
04:35.22Stanzillashe already has lots of data here https://github.com/Kruithne/TransmogTokens/blob/master/ItemData.lua
04:35.37KemayoThe answer to this question involves me going and googling that name, admittedly.
04:39.37KemayoI'm open to doing so, certainly. The data in that file you linked is basically what I mined up, plus some explicit "this is Tier X, and tokens are redeemed with NPC Y" notes, by the look of it.
04:44.35Myrroddini just scrolled up. i like the localization system. that said, i do have one suggestion...
04:45.29Myrroddinsince multiple addons use the same phrases, it would be nice to have the site's version of blizzard's globalstrings
04:46.06StanzillaKemayo: yeah just thought that might be useful for you both, I use her TransmogToken addon and saw you make the lib
04:46.16Myrroddinstuff not in blizz's version, like "top", "top left", or other often used terms
04:50.41Myrroddinprobably more useful phrases "Font Style", "Font Flags", "Outline", etc
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05:09.38TorhalI've suggested it several times. The last time was over a year ago and I was told "Maybe in vNext."
05:09.55znfAh, so we have to wait until WoW 11.0?
05:10.07Torhal18.4.2
05:10.09znfwe'll reach toc 110000!
05:10.24znf...that's kind of optimistic of you
05:10.32Torhal('-' ) (._. ) (o_o) ( ._.) ( '-')
05:10.48znfif Torhal says 18.4, I'll fully expect it by 24.9
05:21.45Reposetcollector: 03lomiedo * r123  (3 files in 1 directory):
05:21.45RepoAdds additional sets and begins addressing unobtainable and not for transmog previews
06:52.54nebulaSemlar: you can't get the distance from the camera to a nameplate, right?
06:53.15Semlaryou can get the distance from the camera to a nameplate, not the distance from the player
06:54.46nebulayea, i want the former, how does i do it
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07:03.06Semlarwhat i did was set the min and max alpha cvars for the nameplates
07:03.24Semlarand the nameplate distance
07:03.46Semlarand used the plate's alpha to figure out what percentage distance it was from the max nameplate distance
07:04.05Semlarand just multiplied them to get the yards
07:04.51nebulaboo, i thought there was some camera api to do it, without fucking with cvars
07:05.13Semlarwhat use do you have for the camera's distance from the nameplate
07:05.22nebulascaling
07:05.49Semlarnameplate scaling?
07:06.13nebulayes, similar to how it works with the text without a nameplate
07:06.19Torhaldescales Semlar.
07:06.24Semlarthere's a cvar for that
07:06.34nebulaoh?
07:06.40Semlaryou can scale based on distance the same way you can set the alpha
07:07.23Semlarbut it's pretty hard on performance
07:07.43Semlarwith 40 nameplates up you'll probably get framerate lag with scaling enabled
07:08.42Semlarcvars are nameplateMinScale, nameplateMaxScale
07:09.13nebulathose aren't used in the framexml anywhere
07:10.00TorhalSuper sekret Semlar cVars.
07:10.06Semlarsemvars
07:10.10Torhal:O
07:10.28Semlaroh and nameplateMinScaleDistance and nameplateMaxScaleDistance i suppose
07:11.02Semlaryou would probably set the maxscaledistance to 0 and the minscaledistance to whatever your nameplate max range is
07:14.16Semlarseriously though, framerate issues
07:14.35nebulayea, doesn't work with what i wanted to do anyway
07:14.46Semlaroh?
07:15.05nebulatry and take over the world.
07:15.16Semlarthe same thing we do every night?
07:21.13Xuerian"What're we doing tonight Semlar?" "Same thing we do every night, nebula"
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08:49.29quiescensnerf semlar
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09:10.20diesalhow to get the stage a legion invasion is on?
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09:24.19Repotidyplates_threat: 03iceeagle 07master * v1.9-3-gc594142  (4 files in 3 directories): [+3 commits]
09:24.19Repoc594142: add option for aura widget icon border
09:24.19Repo2d09aea: add option to hide aura radial cooldown overlay
09:24.19Repo3e3a61c: set frame.unitid to nil when removing widget
09:36.53Gnarfozdiesal: no idea, but you gotta ask yourself: is it worth finding out? :D they end in 5 days.
09:37.21diesalno worries i traced it back through the frame
09:38.07diesaljust automating the leveling process so i can code uninteruppted
10:03.31Gnarfozlol
10:03.40Gnarfoz~laziness
10:03.41purlLAZINESS: The quality that makes you go to great effort to reduce overall energy expenditure. It makes you write labor-saving programs that other people will find useful, and document what you wrote so you don't have to answer so many questions about it. Hence, the first great virtue of a programmer.
10:49.40Reposkada: 03zarnivoop * r672  (2 files in 2 directories): fixed tooltip position for broker display
10:49.40Repoadded spell details to total healing
10:53.00Gnarfozso I taught vSphere to power off hosts when it doesn't need them, to save power
10:53.12Gnarfozit recommends turning off 4 of 7 servers. :D
10:53.30nevcairielheh
10:53.40nevcairielsince when do datacenters want to save power =P
10:54.26Gnarfozsince you have to pay for power, i.e. probably always
10:54.37Gnarfozidle boxes drawing 200W add up
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10:54.57nevcairielyeah i guess, silly server hardware doesnt really conserve power in idle mode much
10:55.19Gnarfozdepends on how you configure them, some people are all "HIGH POWER MODE OR BUST"
10:55.40Gnarfozwhich makes all fans spin at 100% all the time and disables everything from speedstep to turbo boost
10:55.51nevcairielsounds like a znf thing to do
10:55.52GnarfozI think that's kind of dumb. :P
10:56.15Gnarfozit might be appropriate for really latency sensitive things, but I'm not convinced any of what we do qualifies
10:56.32nevcairielusually such people are still afraid of dynamic changes from the old days when stuff would react so slowly that it could be a problem
10:56.40Gnarfozpretty much, yeah
10:57.38Gnarfoz(although admittedly, speedstep isn't terribly fast, it's still OS-controlled. hence that new SpeedShift thing)
10:58.54GnarfozI've set all vSphere servers to OS-controlled and the vSphere power management policy to "balanced", fuck the haters. :P
10:59.06Gnarfoznobody has complained, yet, and I doubt they ever will
11:00.47Kalrothmaybe they're used to it being shit!
11:01.39Gnarfozno, since I changed it just recently when I upgraded the RAM on the servers ^^
11:01.52Repoprofession-track: 03Starfox 07master * v1.5.1-1-g7ec770f ProfessionTrack.lua: [+1 commit] Fix the elusive ignored == nil case
11:02.24Gnarfoz173 W/week average on the newest of the servers
11:02.44Gnarfozerr
11:02.54nevcairielwatt-weeks? :D
11:02.55Gnarfoz173 W/h per week :P
11:03.13nevcairielwell you can convert that to watt-weeks then!
11:03.23GnarfozI can
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11:03.39Megalonhey ho peeps and peepettes
11:03.48nevcairielpoor Megalon, someone is using his addon now
11:04.01nevcairieland finding all them issues
11:04.20Gnarfozhowever, I'm not convinced... the multiplying the average by 3 already gives me a way higher number than the "cumulative usage since Aug 1" reading
11:04.28Gnarfoz-the
11:04.41Gnarfozguess their averaging is shit
11:04.44Megalonyea nev, it's like back when i first made it in wod
11:04.58Megalonand now that *foz requested stuff i had to change, but you should never change a running system FFS
11:05.12Gnarfozmaybe I should look at one of the older servers ;)
11:05.40nevcairielmaybe their average is by month or something and it just wasnt up that long
11:06.21nevcairielalthough 173 W/h seems like a sane number
11:08.00GnarfozI'll look at it when I'm back, it'll have a month of data then
11:08.20nevcairielvacation \o/
11:08.42nevcairielhow long did you have off?
11:10.12Gnarfozleaving for Hannover after Feierabend today, returning Sunday (very) morning, got the whole launch week off, but I have to be reachable Wed-Fri
11:10.34Gnarfoz(which... is kind of an obvious contradiction, but that's a different story)
11:11.01nevcairielwith any luck nothing will set on fire
11:11.10Gnarfozonly 2 linux admins, the other guy has Elternzeit, and we agreed that we'd split "on call"-ness between ourselves
11:11.43Gnarfozwhich is admittedly terrible, legally/work-rights wise, especially considering we don't have any actual on-call regulations, yet
11:12.18Gnarfozour worker's council heard of it just yesterday and basically said "this is not ok at all, we'll see about getting you your PTO days back"
11:12.35nevcairielthats nice
11:12.47Gnarfoz...but not before it's all happened, because that would just risk forcing our boss to kill my PTO
11:13.11nevcairieldont want that to happen next week :D
11:13.20Gnarfozso it's kind of "best, considering the situation"
11:13.57Gnarfozleveling is on Tuesday anyway, I should be able to just go to sleep after 110 and continue the remaining days such that I'm awake during office hours
11:14.04Gnarfozif shit really hits the fan, so be it
11:14.13Gnarfozas long as it's not on Tuesday
11:14.24nevcairielyeah i wont be playing very crazy hours outside of leveling
11:15.05Gnarfozyeah, I'll just play a lot (probably close to 18 hours/day), just not at 5 in the morning (HOPEFULLY, since that's my usual modus operandi :P)
11:15.15nevcairielhah
11:15.30Gnarfozalso, my plan to get off caffeine before launch failed gloriously
11:15.42nevcairielhope i dont fall asleep on tuesday though, due to still being a bit jetlagged or shit
11:16.02nevcairielbut i dont drink much caffeine these days, so i can just start on tuesday
11:16.10nevcairielshould get some energy drinks
11:16.29GnarfozI actually managed a 3-week stretch or so, but then I started doing some very late IRCing (you might have noticed) and ended up with coffee in hand the mornings after... especially this last "omg I totally wanted to do all this prep, let's cram all of it into 4 days" week)
11:17.24GnarfozI'll have to try again, though, at the very end of that caffeine-free stretch, I think I actually noticed a difference in sleep issues
11:17.43Gnarfozi.e. I was waking up on Saturday at around my usual work day time instead of 8 hours later
11:17.55Gnarfozwhich was totally not happening the last 10 years or so
11:18.08nevcairieldropping caffeine for the next couple days would at least be something
11:18.10Gnarfozmaybe I just never went long enough without it
11:18.47Gnarfozyeah I'll have to try and skip tea/coffee during "the festivities" ;p
11:19.16Gnarfozit's supposed to only last 12-ish hours in your system, but the brain really also adapts to it long-term
11:20.28Gnarfozalso: next-oldest vsphere server says something like 1665 kWh over the last 406 days, that's about 4.1 kWh per day or 170 W/h. So... pretty much the same
11:20.55nevcairieldoes it have an average value?
11:21.10Reposkada: 03zarnivoop 041.5-7 * r673 : Tagging as 1.5-7
11:21.11Gnarfoznot for the "cumulative reading" thing, I did that manually
11:21.30Gnarfozits own "historical trends" stuff only has averages for hour/day/week
11:21.36Gnarfozand week is at 199W/h
11:21.44nevcairielclose enough, i guess
11:21.53Gnarfozhistorical peak: 521 W
11:21.56Gnarfozwonder what was going on there.
11:22.05nevcairielthats a lot of power
11:22.24nevcairielwhat kind of system? dual or quad cpu?
11:22.26Gnarfozprobably turned off some of the other servers for reboots and it got piled full of VMs for a while
11:22.57Gnarfoz2x E5-2650 v3 in that case
11:23.10GnarfozE7-4xxx is just stupidly expensive
11:23.16Gnarfozyou can buy another server from the price difference
11:23.46nevcairielthese have a TDP of 105W, reaching 500 on it even with all the other cmoponents seems excessive
11:23.50Gnarfoz(or, well, E7-8xxx is, E7-4xxx might not be that insane. but you still need a totally different kind of server for it anyway)
11:24.36Gnarfozwell, it also has a ton of RAM, 10 GbE NICs and 16 Gbit/s FC HBAs, those also do some work
11:24.54nevcairieli guess, these things do use some power
11:24.59Gnarfoz(and 2 local disks, probably neglible I NEVER KNOW HOW TO SPELL THAT)
11:25.20nevcairielits spelled "unimportant"
11:25.30Gnarfozheh.
11:25.35Gnarfoznegligible.
11:25.45Gnarfozah, missed another "gi" there
11:26.31nevcairielvernachlässigbar .. probably not the easiest word for non-germans either
11:26.35nevcairielmust be something about the term!
11:26.57GnarfozGerman word doesn't have that doubled syllable in the middle, though
11:27.04Gnarfozwhich is what trips me up, probably
11:27.34Megalondie vernach lässig bar
11:27.39Megalonsounds like a chill place
11:28.57Gnarfozprobably not very crowded, though
11:28.58quiescenso.o
11:29.37Megalonas i said, chill :)
11:29.51Gnarfozwenn deine alte chillen will...
11:30.05Megalonholt den schnapps und den stoff
11:31.00Gnarfozquasselweb is doing the "not scrolling down to latest message" thing again >_>
11:31.40Gnarfozivy bridge generation server averages at 147W/h over the last 2 years
11:32.09Gnarfozand the sandy bridge generation HP servers don't have a overall total.
11:32.12Gnarfoz:(
11:32.21Gnarfozand the history average even only goes back 24h
11:32.23Gnarfozweak!
11:32.46Gnarfoz(also claims about 177W/h)
11:32.53quiescensi think you are overthinking this o.o
11:32.58quiescensgo to sleep foz
11:33.03GnarfozI'm not thinking at all
11:33.05nevcairielwhats the fun in underthinking things
11:33.05Gnarfoz:D
11:33.19Gnarfozjust checking random numbers that I might dig up in some meeting some day
11:33.21nevcairielbetter go to lunch, instead of bed
11:33.29Gnarfozto impress people with my vast knowledge!
11:34.50quiescensgnarfoz knows many things
11:37.04GnarfozI am not Jon Snow.
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13:21.39nevcairielZeldo: Torhal: packager is going bonkers over a broken project (tellmewhen), can you purge it from the queue or something?
13:21.54quiescenspanic \o/
13:22.55nevcairielapparently its trying to package a different clone then mainline, which got deleted?
13:23.39Repovexrunes: 03fuda01 * r62 core.lua:
13:23.39Repotrying to get the release pushed - damn you buggy svn-protocol
13:24.01nevcairielreally should fix the option to delete things from the queue, its in the UI but just doesnt work
13:24.08Torhalnevcairiel: I tried, but it won't let me yank it from the queue.
13:24.18quiescens/blame torhal
13:24.30TorhalIt did work
13:24.30TorhalIt was broken, then got fixed, and now it's just fucking mental.
13:24.39nevcairielheh
13:24.42Torhalbakes quiescens with his next batch of cookies.
13:24.46quiescensdies.
13:24.51quiescens):
13:25.44nevcairielmaybe i should just delete a new clone of that porject using the old name, and delete it after the packager quiets down!
13:25.53nevcairieli assume i can delete clones i created, can i? :P
13:27.23nevcairielapparently it thinks one already exists under that name, presumably because it was deleted, but now i cant re-create it
13:27.24nevcairieloh well
13:28.38nevcairielbut without mod rights on cf i cant fix shit anyway, so i'll go back to eating grapes
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13:30.48Torhalnevcairiel: Just added you and nebula.
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13:31.48nevcairielturned off packaging of that deleted clone, lets see
13:31.59nevcairielit looks like the people working on that project dont really know what clones are for
13:32.38nevcairielyay it purged it from the queue
13:32.45TorhalYay
13:33.16bluipodcow[fiddles Torhal]
13:33.29nevcairielhm these grapes are pretty good
13:33.45nevcairieleven if they were super expensive, shouldnt shop in a bio supermarket
13:34.34nevcairiel"organic" how you americans probably call it
13:35.03TorhalThat has to be one of the stupidest terms.
13:35.25Torhal"I only eat inorganic foods!"
13:35.34nevcairielsalt all the way
13:36.11nevcairielits the only inorganic thing commonly in food i can come up with :D
13:36.40TorhalThere are plenty of fillers. At least, here.
13:37.00bluipodcowGrrrrrr. Auto play video ads can go DIAF,
13:37.11bluipodcow,,!
13:37.19MyrroddinAdBlock, dude
13:37.33bluipodcowthrows Torhal at the IPad
13:37.36nevcairielanyway like $10 for a bag of grapes sure is expensive, although i didnt pay attention how much it weights
13:37.51nevcairielbut ... the damn supermarket is on the way and i'm too lazy to go anywhere else
13:37.57nevcairielcurse you wholefoods! taking my dollars!
13:38.38Myrroddinyou could always get junk food
13:39.26quiescensgives bluipodcow a cookie
13:39.31TorhalYeah, Wholefoods isn't known for having the most sensible prices.
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13:39.38bluipodcowYum!
13:41.04Myrroddingives quiescens to cookie monster
13:41.59quiescens):
13:44.05Myrroddinbluipodcow vs super grover best of 7 series, for the fate of quiescens cookies!!!
13:44.17bluipodcowWho will win?
13:44.21bluipodcowMost importantly
13:44.36bluipodcowWho's super grover?
13:45.46Myrroddingasp
13:45.51Myrroddinhttp://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/muppet/images/7/73/Super-Grover-2.0.png/revision/latest?cb=20110405210554
13:46.36Myrroddinhttp://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/20000000/Super-Grover-2-0-grover-monster-20091864-510-287.jpg
13:48.04Repovexrunes: 03fuda01 * r63  (3 files in 2 directories): added a 2nd texture pack
13:48.21Repovexrunes: 03fuda01 04v2.1.9 * r64 : release
13:48.43Repovexrunes: 03fuda01 * r65 vexrunes.toc:  
13:49.21Myrroddini can not believe that someone doesn't know who super grover is. *boggle*
13:50.26nevcairielhe is called differently in different countries, in germany he is called "Grobi", so .. super grobi!
13:50.49Myrroddiner, wouldn't that be uber grobi?
13:51.03nevcairielthat just sounds stupid
13:51.24Myrroddindammit, you almost made me spit out my drink!
13:53.20quiescenso.o
13:54.37nevcairieldammit, only almost
13:54.42Repovexrunes: 03fuda01 * r66 vexrunes.toc:  
13:54.44znfhttp://www.nzherald.co.nz/Holly-Ryan/news/article.cfm?a_id=937&objectid=11700291
13:54.45znfha
13:58.10Myrroddinhmm. rarely, like now, the french name for a drink sounds better than the english. "pamplemousse rose" vs "pink grapefruit"
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13:59.50Myrroddinznf *you* are a dominos drone!
14:00.25PawketteI feel like this is going to be the best / worst thing
14:00.27quiescensgasp
14:00.48Pawkette1. Thank glob I no longer have to face a conversation with the pizza delivery people who wanna know about my house and my age.
14:00.51nevcairielthe real question is if the drone can find my window so i dont have to walk down the stairs
14:00.54Pawkette2. well that's one less job :(
14:01.42quiescensi don't navigation is accurate enough to work like that yet is it?
14:01.51nevcairielwe should send bluipodcow to order a pizza and test
14:01.58znfprobably only works for people that don't live in a residential building
14:02.11znfand that have some sort of back yard where the drone can land?
14:02.21Myrroddinare you suggesting it only works for people who live in boxes?
14:03.00GnarfozDon't we all?
14:03.02znfno, that live in houses!
14:03.14Myrroddinooo could you imagine camping, and getting tent to tent delivery?
14:04.46Myrroddin"delivery time 30 minutes to an hour, depending on bear attacks on the pizza"
14:06.01quiescensflying bairs
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14:08.20Myrroddinsigh. i should get this paperwork done. back in a while
14:09.55quiescenswoek woek
14:11.16TorhalPawkette: You're here, now?
14:11.18Torhal:O
14:12.29bluipodcowThat's odd. Dominos over have live tracking for their drivers on their iOS app. It lists their favourite pizza , music and interests.
14:12.55bluipodcowLike they trying to get you personal with their drivers. This seems a step in the other direction
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14:20.44TorhalOr they're catering to diverse groups people.
14:20.47Torhalof*
14:21.19nevcairieli despise people, even more so people that deliver my food, cant talk, hungry
14:21.32quiescenso.o
14:24.35sgetsuhi everyone, does anybody - by chance - have a clue why SendChatMessage(msg,chn) wouldn't work, but SendChatMessage("blabla",chn) does? :<
14:25.32sgetsuthe variables do contain the right data and all, super weird
14:26.29Pawkette@Torhal yeah I intend on playing Legion heavily
14:27.02Pawketteplus as a crotchety old lady I have other people's old addons to make work in 7.0
14:27.06Pawketteso wowace it is
14:27.21TorhalI blame ZOS.
14:27.40quiescensi blame torhal o.o
14:27.50bluipodcowPawkette I think Torhal has your cats
14:27.53TorhalThat's all you know, though, quiescens.
14:28.00TorhalWAT
14:28.02TorhalNo. My cats.
14:28.27Pawkettewait
14:28.32PawketteI don't have any cats
14:28.44TorhalHe somehow thought you were saying you're a crazy cat lady.
14:28.46Pawketteanyways, Torhal, did I ever tell you ZOS tried to hire me?
14:28.49TorhalHe's weird, though, so whatever.
14:28.52bluipodcowI kidding :)
14:28.54TorhalNo, you didn't
14:29.01Pawketteyeah soooo
14:29.02bluipodcowAnd kiwi XD
14:29.12Pawkettethey tried to hire me
14:29.19Pawkettewhile I was working at Epic
14:29.25Pawketteand I was like... I've heard bad things yo
14:29.32quiescensblaming torhal for everything saves the effort of working out who's fault it actually is
14:29.46quiescensnodnod
14:30.03TorhalHuh. Had no idea.
14:30.51Pawketteit was very sweet
14:30.59PawketteI felt very desireable
14:31.13Pawkettebut I think I'm a bit to crotchety to work on an MMO again
14:32.36nevcairielgoogle tried to hire me some years ago, but I didn't feel like moving to another country, so screw that
14:32.47TorhalJust don't release anything you write for WoW; there way way more users than for ESO and I'm certain they have a less pleasant disposition.
14:33.09quiescenslike znf
14:33.14Pawketteugh
14:33.15nevcairieldont you like your users Torhal
14:33.16TorhalFuck that guy!
14:33.20Pawketteyeah I'll just keep it all on Github
14:33.21Torhalnevcairiel: Some.
14:33.34Pawketteplease don't attack Pawk, Pawk just wants to make codes
14:33.41znfwear a condom
14:33.44nevcairielmost of the time i dont mind the users, of course there is always the crazies
14:33.53TorhalBut you gave them free stuff, now they own you!
14:33.58Pawkette:(
14:34.11PawketteI hear ZOS put LootDrop into ESO
14:34.14Pawkettelike officially
14:34.20bluipodcow*hugs Pawkette*
14:34.45Pawkettehugs bluipodcow
14:38.32TorhalOk, past my bedtime.
14:38.43nevcairielyou still work the weirdest hours
14:38.46TorhalDon't let bluipodcow near your hair.
14:39.00Torhal6pm to 2am is only slightly weird.
14:39.11quiescensgo to sleep
14:39.15nevcairieli suppose i would actually sleep at 2am then <.<
14:39.24TorhalI tried two hours before my bed time, but it didn't take.
14:39.30quiescens):
14:39.44nevcairielyou have worse sleeping times then Gnarfoz, and thats saying something
14:40.02TorhalSlept two hours yesterday, and 45 minutes a few hours ag.
14:40.05TorhalIt's great!
14:40.06bluipodcow*bats Torhals long,luxurious,handsome hair*
14:40.21TorhalDamn Kiwis.
14:42.41bluipodcowLol
14:42.48bluipodcowWant some pizza?
14:43.05znfyes
14:43.16znflet's send a drone to bluipodcow
14:43.41bluipodcowNo pizza places open right meow
14:47.51znfGnarfoz, happy to report, no restarts
14:51.15Gnarfozznf: same
14:51.18Gnarfozbut I had another notification
14:51.30Gnarfozso it seems to keep crying, but won't do anything
14:51.30znfyeah, I don't care about those :D
14:51.37znfas long as it doesn't actually restart shit
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15:03.01pompy~wowalert
15:03.01purlhttp://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: Returns empty content unless there is an active alert]
15:03.43pompywonder why the launcher is still showing tuesdays message
15:05.14bluipodcowShowing empty for me Pompy . On both of URLs
15:05.28pompyyeah the client is showing it though
15:05.39pompyive relogged
15:06.15bluipodcowOdd
15:06.41bluipodcowsoft
15:07.28bluipodcowlsof -i | grep World
15:07.32bluipodcowMaybe ?
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17:11.21Repo- Holiday reminders will now occur for items inside collapsed groups (you can turn reminders off all at once, or on a per-item basis, from the Options screen)
17:11.21Repo- Collapsed groups with no items to display will no longer appear
17:11.21Repo- Rarity now displays a special message when it can't show any items or collapsed groups in the tooltip
17:11.21Repo- [#111] Added new option: Hide items not in your zone
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17:14.46znfGnarfoz, WELL, SHIT
17:14.49znfit restarted
17:15.11znfthis is fucking retarded
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17:26.51quiescenswhat did you break this time?
17:28.37Funkeh`https://www.openssl.org/news/openssl-1.1.0-notes.html
17:36.57znfquiescens, I tried breaking windows' 10 auto-restart
17:37.07quiescensgrats
17:37.33znfI failed
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17:37.50quiescensoic
17:39.36Msvariant@Torhal why what would they do to my hair?
17:41.22Pawkettewhoops
17:41.25Pawketteyeah this is me tho
17:42.14Fiskerpoor znf
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17:48.01Pawkettewiggles
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18:12.54LejSo maybe there's a better way to do this but anyway. I'm trying to recurse down a table (an Addon) and changing all functions to also print their name.
18:13.14LejBut when I try to modify the original functions things break.
18:13.42LejI do something like:
18:13.42Lejlocal old = value[k] value[k] = function (...) print(k.."()") old(...) end
18:13.54Lejhttp://pastebin.com/hq928Yrk
18:14.24LejI guess I'm missusing the ellipsis
18:14.31Lej?
18:17.55Pawketteum
18:18.01Pawketteyou might need to tostring(k)
18:18.14Pawkettebut not sure
18:20.54LejI think unpack is what I'm looking for
18:21.32Pawkettelocal t = { x = function() end , } for k,v in pairs(t) do local old = t[k] t[k] = function() print(tostring(k) .. '()') old() end end t.x()
18:21.34Pawketteshould work
18:22.40nebulaellipsis usage looks fine
18:25.23Lej@Pawkette Won't that break it old() has any arguments?
18:29.08Pawketteyeah I just wanted to test it quickly
18:29.19Pawkettelet me add in variadic argument support
18:33.20Pawkettehttp://codepad.org/gGOFRxg1
18:36.39PrimerI've checked out BattlegroundTargets from svn+ssh://svn@svn.wowace.com/wow/battlegroundtargets/mainline/trunk, merged the changes from the other addon (BattlegroundTargets_Legion, which has been removed from curse), then tried to tag and got access denied. Thoughts?
18:37.43nebulaPrimer: did you not commit your changes first?
18:37.53Pawketteyeah overall @Lej I see no reason why yours shouldn't work
18:37.56Primerheh
18:37.58Repobattlegroundtargets: 03barfolomeu * r269  (3 files in 1 directory):
18:37.58RepoThis is just a merge of what was once an addon named BattlegroundTargets_Legion on curse, which was removed.
18:38.00PawketteI'd have to look at it in game
18:38.07Pawkettecould be a wow-specific hangup
18:38.13Primernebula: yeah, I realized that's what I forgot to do (before you even said it)
18:38.48Primernebula: yeah, I can commit to trunk but I can't tag
18:39.18PrimerOnly tags are packaged, right?
18:39.20Repobattlegroundtargets: 03nebula169 0470000-1 * r270 : Tagging as 70000-1
18:39.30Primerthanks
18:40.42LejYeah something seems strange
18:40.46Lejvalue[k] = old
18:40.49Lejworks
18:40.53Lejvalue[k] = function(...) old(...) end
18:40.55Lejcrashes
18:40.57PrimerI wish I could connect to the damn game to test that
18:41.17Pawkettelemme try
18:41.30Primernebula: for future reference, did I do something wrong, or do you just have more access than I do?
18:41.37nebulai have no idea
18:41.50Primer$ svn cp svn+ssh://svn@svn.wowace.com/wow/battlegroundtargets/mainline/trunk svn+ssh://svn@svn.wowace.com/wow/battlegroundtargets/mainline/tags/70000-1 -m "Tagging as 70000-1."
18:41.57PrimerCommitting transaction...
18:41.57Primersvn: E220004: Access denied
18:42.03LejMaybe the addon does some hooking magic or something
18:42.35Pawkettehmmmmmm
18:42.39PawketteI can /run it
18:42.41Pawkettelocal test = { funTimes = function(x, y, z) print(x .. y .. z ) end } for key, _ in pairs(test) do local oldFunc = test[ key ] test[ key ] = function( ... ) print( tostring( key ) .. '(...)' ) oldFunc( ... ) end end test.funTimes(1, 2, 3)
18:42.45Pawkettetry that in /run
18:43.01nebulaLej: well if that runs more than once, you got some circular refs going on
18:43.19nebulamaybe
18:43.31LejI prevent that the ugly way
18:43.44Pawkettehttp://ideone.com/LaltPv
18:43.51Pawketteoh yay, ideone has a Lua compiler
18:43.54Lejsetting a value on each recursed object, to prevent loops
18:44.12LejPawkette, that worked just fine
18:44.16Pawkettehmmmmm
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18:44.50Pawkettewiggles
18:44.59PrimerOk, bnet finally let me connect
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18:48.09Primersigh, and I get IOC
18:48.15Primerand I have BGT disabled for 40 mans
18:48.28Primerhey, it works!
18:48.34Primerno lua errors either
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19:34.37Repoatlasloot-enhanced: 03lag123 07legion * r4433 AtlasLoot/AtlasLoot.lua: - small DEV tool 4 Prot
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19:55.58Repoitargetingframes: 03Ironi88 07master * v0.8-8-gaf68d82  (6 files in 2 directories): [+3 commits]
19:55.58Repoaf68d82: Fix 'Unknown' unit names
19:55.58Repo3057a43: Options: add toggle to enable/disable health text Custom conditionals: added new parameter , its a table containing: name (string), guid (string), npcid (number), class (string, classFileName), health (current %, number 0-100). Usage: function(unitID, data) if data.health <35 then..... Code optimizing: Don't update hidden frames Custom conditional templates: Update to use data.x
19:55.58Repo42b6ba5: Options: fix font flag for duration text & stack text Options: add font flag options for Name/Cast text Add health text
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21:11.05Repoangry-world-quests: 03Ermads 04v0.6.0 * 7b3b85a /: [new tag, +10 commits] Tagging as v0.6.0
21:11.22Repoangry-world-quests: 03Ermads 07master * v0.6.0 /: [forced -3 +10] Added option to show all World Quest POI icons on the Broken Isles map.
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