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| 00:11.22 | Gnarfoz | hm |
| 00:11.40 | Gnarfoz | I need Z170 if I want to make use of the K SKU cpu? |
| 00:11.47 | Gnarfoz | shame, there goes my cheap B150 board. :P |
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| 00:13.54 | Xuerian | Gotta update that farme |
| 00:15.16 | Megalon | haha just read about 7.1 patch |
| 00:15.31 | Megalon | they should name it I WILL NOT MOVE WHEN FLAME WREATH IS CAST :P |
| 00:20.07 | Stanzilla | Megalon: http://shadeofaranchant.ytmnd.com/ |
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| 00:29.50 | Megalon | :D |
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| 03:37.16 | Kaelten | Parnic had some bad people steal a lot of points from authors, so we're just keeping an eye on things a little closer for a little bit |
| 03:37.24 | Kaelten | it'll be back to normal soon :) |
| 03:37.42 | Parnic | all good. glad you guys are keeping an eye on things |
| 03:37.54 | Parnic | it was just an opportunity for me to joke about the twitch thing again |
| 03:40.43 | quiescens | o.o |
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| 07:16.35 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: faster memory runs faster because the memory controllers can run much faster then their specified frequency, the skylake one is the fastests yet and supports up to 4000MHz on serious OC modules |
| 07:16.57 | nevcairiel | just not official support, and if it doesnt work, they won't help you =p |
| 07:17.19 | nevcairiel | anything in the mid-3000s should be fine tho |
| 07:18.01 | Kalroth | i'm running 3200mhz myself, seems to work fine |
| 07:18.13 | Kalroth | on my 6700K |
| 07:19.22 | quiescens | iuno how much you really gain from memory clock changes |
| 07:19.33 | nevcairiel | depends on your use-cases |
| 07:19.40 | nevcairiel | but it can matter quite a bit |
| 07:19.52 | Kalroth | http://www.crucial.com/usa/en/memory-performance-speed-latency i think this guide covers it pretty well |
| 07:20.29 | Kalroth | although it focuses on latency being a bad way to measure memory performance |
| 07:21.01 | nevcairiel | better measure is using clock and dividing by latency, and you get a indicator number :d |
| 07:21.53 | nevcairiel | or other way around, probably that. |
| 07:25.59 | nevcairiel | the only point that crucial website is trying to make is that latency is expressed in cycles, so as memory gets faster, cycles get shorter, and the true latency remains the same, despite needing more cycles |
| 07:27.11 | Kalroth | yup, thats why it brings clock cycle into the equation |
| 07:28.15 | Kalroth | but it summarizes with "And CL ratings are an inaccurate, and often misleading, indicator of true latency (and memory) performance." |
| 07:29.42 | nevcairiel | I use 3200 CL14 right now, since the X99 platform doesn't really do the much higher frequencies, so i went with a lower latency module because why not |
| 07:30.55 | Kalroth | I think mine are 3200 CL17 (4x8GB), they weren't that expensive either |
| 07:31.15 | Kalroth | on a Z170 board, nothing fancy like X99 |
| 07:32.07 | nevcairiel | Z170 is actually better for memory |
| 07:32.12 | Kalroth | oh |
| 07:32.21 | nevcairiel | or more precisely, the memory controller in skylake is better |
| 07:32.39 | nevcairiel | it clocks higher in practice |
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| 07:32.48 | nevcairiel | x99 already struggles to achieve stable 3400 |
| 07:33.06 | nevcairiel | skylake can run 4000+ with proper setup |
| 07:33.38 | nevcairiel | although those 4000+ modules probably at least need active air cooling |
| 07:35.25 | nevcairiel | its mostly just a factor of skylake being much newer, hsw-e or bdw-e are older designs |
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| 07:46.25 | Kalroth | nevcairiel, have you messed around with overclocking your 1080? |
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| 08:16.41 | Phixion | morning |
| 08:27.28 | nevcairiel | Kalroth: nah |
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| 08:52.36 | Gnarfoz | I kind of want an i7 |
| 08:52.49 | nevcairiel | just do it :d |
| 08:53.16 | Gnarfoz | but reading that the 6700K is already basically at its limit out of the box is a bit discouraging |
| 08:53.28 | Gnarfoz | (high voltage, way higher temps than 6600K) |
| 08:53.51 | nevcairiel | thats more of a reason not to get a K, instead of going i5 |
| 08:53.57 | Gnarfoz | true |
| 08:54.07 | nevcairiel | although the non K probably is lower clocked out of the box too, to screw with you |
| 08:54.09 | Gnarfoz | but K is just 25⬠whereas i5 is -100⬠|
| 08:54.11 | nevcairiel | and the price differencce is minial |
| 08:54.13 | nevcairiel | minimal |
| 08:54.15 | Gnarfoz | it is |
| 08:55.04 | Gnarfoz | so DDR4-2400 on Skylake would be a waste? |
| 08:55.19 | nevcairiel | yes, you should buy faster memory |
| 08:55.38 | nevcairiel | prices dont really increase much until 3000-3200 or so |
| 08:55.46 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I noticed |
| 08:55.55 | Gnarfoz | although the 2400 I had picked so far is really quite cheap |
| 08:56.02 | Gnarfoz | 3.57â¬/GB or so |
| 08:56.21 | Kalroth | Gnarfoz, not really, i run mine at 4.5GHz on air |
| 08:56.33 | Kalroth | that's more than a 10% increase |
| 08:57.00 | nevcairiel | stock turbo is 4200 |
| 08:57.03 | nevcairiel | so how is that 10% |
| 08:57.03 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 08:57.08 | Gnarfoz | Kalroth:Â mh. maybe got a good one? I was looking at this https://www.computerbase.de/2015-08/intel-core-i5-6600k-i7-6700k-test-benchmark-skylake/8/#abschnitt_temperatur |
| 08:57.29 | Gnarfoz | that's a 36% increase per core from the 6600K |
| 08:57.39 | Gnarfoz | however... I doubt I use much software that actually uses AVX |
| 08:57.59 | nevcairiel | my board actually has an option to reduce the turbo when AVX is used to lower the heat |
| 08:58.04 | nevcairiel | not sure if Z170 has that |
| 08:59.19 | nevcairiel | (i dont use it, mind you) |
| 09:00.01 | Gnarfoz | that sounds... ominous |
| 09:00.01 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 09:00.19 | nevcairiel | its really only useful when you really push the boundary |
| 09:00.38 | nevcairiel | because the AVX units use quite a bit moire power |
| 09:01.42 | Gnarfoz | at least that test there also points out that the i5-6600K barely beats out my ancient i7-2600K |
| 09:02.05 | Gnarfoz | aaaanyway. |
| 09:02.08 | nevcairiel | the temp test? :p |
| 09:02.22 | Gnarfoz | different bit of that test, sorry |
| 09:02.38 | Gnarfoz | https://www.computerbase.de/2015-08/intel-core-i5-6600k-i7-6700k-test-benchmark-skylake/6/#abschnitt_gesamtergebnis |
| 09:02.43 | Gnarfoz | just 10% ahead |
| 09:02.52 | nevcairiel | its only 10% or so for the 6600k, and 30% for the 6700, yeah |
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| 09:04.09 | Gnarfoz | and even 40%-ish for apps |
| 09:04.29 | Gnarfoz | guess I can trash this list http://geizhals.de/?cat=WL-699639 |
| 09:04.31 | nevcairiel | games drag it down, its only like 15% |
| 09:05.09 | nevcairiel | but gaming hasnt been cpu bound for a while |
| 09:05.15 | nevcairiel | other then wow in some scenarios, i suppose |
| 09:05.28 | Gnarfoz | certainly not in my kind of setup until I become a couch gamer |
| 09:05.36 | Gnarfoz | (in front of the 4K TV) |
| 09:05.45 | nevcairiel | that puts even more load on the GPU |
| 09:05.56 | nevcairiel | not that much CPU |
| 09:06.16 | Gnarfoz | http://geizhals.de/?cat=WL-575161 was the other list... gotta replace that memory (and check why I picked that particular MB) |
| 09:06.27 | Gnarfoz | great, now I did something again that makes quasselweb disconnect after about 30 seconds |
| 09:06.31 | Gnarfoz | websocket junk! |
| 09:06.38 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 09:06.47 | Gnarfoz | no idea what the problem is, it just says "disconnected" soon after logging in |
| 09:07.04 | Gnarfoz | there's actually mainboards that do x16, m.2, x1 btw |
| 09:07.05 | nevcairiel | do you reverse proxy it? |
| 09:07.11 | Gnarfoz | to waste one less x1 slot |
| 09:07.15 | Gnarfoz | yeah |
| 09:08.09 | nevcairiel | i dont think having the m2 slot covered up right from the gpu is a layout i would personally like |
| 09:08.13 | nevcairiel | how many pcie slots do you need |
| 09:08.25 | nevcairiel | you can plug x1 devices into x16 slots |
| 09:08.57 | Kalroth | nevcairiel, stock turbo isn't on all four cores, is it? |
| 09:09.32 | Kalroth | turbo boost* |
| 09:10.55 | nevcairiel | not sure |
| 09:10.58 | nevcairiel | dont have one |
| 09:11.16 | Kalroth | me neither, the overclocking disables it |
| 09:11.48 | Kalroth | it's just regular clocking down, eg. something like 800/1600/3200/4500 (?) |
| 09:11.51 | nevcairiel | a quick review i googled up says it can run 42x on all cores |
| 09:12.12 | Kalroth | ok, so not 10% then :P i just went with base clock of 4.0GHz |
| 09:13.10 | nevcairiel | i never liked these active-core-based turbo clocks, first thing i tweak is a constant turbo multiplier |
| 09:13.36 | Kalroth | yup, that's basically how i overclock anyways |
| 09:13.46 | Kalroth | more voltage (1.35) and a higher multiplier |
| 09:13.53 | nevcairiel | on this board it even goes further, doing something like Intel Turbo Boost Max, which can assign single applications to a specific core and turbo that single core higher, its all kinds of crazy |
| 09:14.07 | Kalroth | yup, that's why i assumed turbo boost was for a single core only |
| 09:14.46 | nevcairiel | maybe i should try that for wow, since its largely single threaded |
| 09:15.43 | nevcairiel | http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/architecture-and-technology/turbo-boost/turbo-boost-max-technology.html .. wonder if they have a tiny more technical page somewhere |
| 09:15.50 | Kalroth | they never did other optimizations regarding towards multithreading? i remember them moving audio to a separate thread, i think |
| 09:16.02 | nevcairiel | thats still minimal |
| 09:16.50 | Kalroth | ah, turbo boost max is only for eXtreme Korez |
| 09:18.01 | nevcairiel | broadwell-e only as well, its very new |
| 09:18.39 | Kalroth | http://www.cnet.com/news/intel-expects-usb-type-c-could-help-kill-the-3-5mm-audio-jack/ i wouldn't mind it |
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| 10:00.19 | Gnarfoz | hm, you both don't use regular turbo boost for OC? |
| 10:00.43 | Gnarfoz | instead you increase the base multiplier and force "all or none" turbo boost steps? |
| 10:01.29 | Gnarfoz | I think I left my base multiplier at the 2600K default (34?) and only increased the turbo steps (but per core, i..e 38,39,40,40, or since yesterday 40,40,41,42) |
| 10:01.39 | nevcairiel | i dont increase the base multiplier, i increase the turbo boost multiplier but disable the per-core shit, only all or none |
| 10:01.52 | Gnarfoz | but why? ^^ |
| 10:02.05 | nevcairiel | because the per core stuff is weird |
| 10:02.08 | Gnarfoz | that's what turbo boost excels at |
| 10:02.34 | Gnarfoz | (using the available headroom to boost single-thread performance) |
| 10:03.22 | Gnarfoz | which one was the one that abused thermal latency? turbo 2.0? or 3.0? |
| 10:03.44 | nevcairiel | 3.0 is just the turbo boost max that assigns apps to faster cores |
| 10:05.18 | nevcairiel | so probably 2.0 |
| 10:06.57 | Gnarfoz | are there major differences between the two USB 3.1 controllers? |
| 10:07.10 | nevcairiel | what controllers |
| 10:07.12 | Gnarfoz | (also why do so few mainboards use the ALC892 audio codec? :O) |
| 10:07.35 | Gnarfoz | Intel Alpine Ridge DSL6540 (17) ASmedia ASM1142 (74) |
| 10:07.42 | Gnarfoz | seems like that's the only two ones anyone uses |
| 10:08.06 | nevcairiel | why do you favor ALC892 over ALC1150? |
| 10:08.15 | nevcairiel | (which is the more common one) |
| 10:08.26 | nevcairiel | and there is probably no huge d ifference |
| 10:08.30 | nevcairiel | in usb |
| 10:08.34 | Gnarfoz | it's "better" ^^ |
| 10:08.45 | Gnarfoz | not that I have good enough ears to hear the difference, probably. |
| 10:08.52 | nevcairiel | i have ASM1142 |
| 10:09.06 | Gnarfoz | the 1150 has some weird configuration where just one of the DACs has the eponymous 115 dB SNR |
| 10:09.13 | Gnarfoz | the others are worse than the 892 |
| 10:09.34 | Gnarfoz | the 892 has 110 dB SNR across all or so |
| 10:09.44 | Gnarfoz | (also headphone amps on all ports... whatever.) |
| 10:09.51 | Gnarfoz | probably doesn't matter. |
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| 10:12.38 | nevcairiel | comparing the specs it seems like the "worse" DACs in the 1150 have the same specs as all the DACs on 892 |
| 10:14.56 | nevcairiel | I wonder how I can make sure i u se the better dac |
| 10:15.00 | nevcairiel | do i really have to use the front panel? |
| 10:15.13 | nevcairiel | because it calls them "front DAC" |
| 10:15.34 | nevcairiel | or maybe its the dac for the green front channel connector |
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| 10:36.44 | Gnarfoz | yeah, that's one of the annoying points: neither the description nor the datasheet makes that particularly clear |
| 10:36.57 | Gnarfoz | I think it's the rear front channel connector |
| 10:37.25 | Gnarfoz | since in the datasheet diagram that one ("Front") is paired with "Fout", which is most likely the front panel one |
| 10:37.49 | Gnarfoz | and either I mixed up the part numbers or you misread that... the 8xx one I meant has better DACs on all channels |
| 10:38.12 | Gnarfoz | crap, I was talking about the 898 apparently |
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| 10:38.56 | nevcairiel | i suppose that one has higher SNR on all channel |
| 10:39.05 | Gnarfoz | also, that 1150 "front dac" output requires the implementation to use a "differential output", not sure what that is |
| 10:39.22 | Gnarfoz | (it has 4 lines instead of 2) |
| 10:39.28 | nevcairiel | 898 is extremely rare tho |
| 10:39.39 | Gnarfoz | yep, only 2 biostar mainboards |
| 10:40.05 | Gnarfoz | not to worry, I now own two USB DACs anyway so if I'm not satisfied with the ubiquitous 1150, I can just use that instead |
| 10:40.22 | nevcairiel | i just use the 1150 for my speakers |
| 10:40.24 | Gnarfoz | should look up what my current asus onboard sound has. probably worse than either of the new ones. :P |
| 10:40.27 | nevcairiel | didnt notice anything bad |
| 10:40.33 | nevcairiel | but i probably wouldnt anyway |
| 10:40.38 | Gnarfoz | same here basically |
| 10:41.12 | Gnarfoz | ALC889 |
| 10:41.35 | nevcairiel | seems to be the predecessor of 898 with higher SNR as well |
| 10:42.13 | Gnarfoz | yeah, just saw, it's actually really good |
| 10:42.29 | nevcairiel | but new boards use all sorts of crazy EMI shielding for audio components now, who knows if that helps any |
| 10:43.49 | Gnarfoz | mainboards are the worst... so many to pick from |
| 10:44.19 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 10:45.27 | nevcairiel | i usually just figure out which board maker i want and then pick a model from their lineup based on features |
| 10:45.36 | nevcairiel | this time it was MSI |
| 10:46.24 | nevcairiel | this would be the Z170 variant of the board i currently have: https://de.msi.com/Motherboard/Z170A-GAMING-PRO-CARBON.html |
| 10:48.56 | Kalroth | seems to be ALC1150 on mine as well, but I really only use an USB headset soo :) |
| 10:51.55 | Kalroth | "G.SKILL is pushing a 128GB (8x16GB) kit of the high end Trident Z series to a blazing DDR4-3333MHz frequency at a very tight timing of CL 14-14-14-34." |
| 10:51.58 | Kalroth | there you go, Gnarfoz! |
| 10:52.16 | nevcairiel | sounds expensive |
| 10:52.54 | Kalroth | yeah, price is "call us" |
| 10:53.25 | Kalroth | https://www.techpowerup.com/225116/g-skill-demos-ddr4-3333mhz-cl14-128gb-and-ddr4-3333mhz |
| 10:54.36 | nevcairiel | the specs arent that special if you would talk about smaller module, but the bigger the modules the harder it usually is to get them the same speed |
| 10:56.40 | Kalroth | yeah, its pretty good for a 16GB module |
| 11:09.01 | Gnarfoz | "G.SKILL International Enterprise Co., Ltd., the world's leading manufacturer of extreme performance memory and gaming peripherals," are they, though |
| 11:09.38 | Gnarfoz | I still remember when (back in the day) we first started selling g.skill ram |
| 11:09.44 | Gnarfoz | that name was so odd :P |
| 11:09.57 | quiescens | shrug |
| 11:11.40 | nevcairiel | but it stuck =p |
| 11:13.43 | Gnarfoz | I guess I don't really need more than one pcie port, if I actually take the plunge and move the HDDs out of the system at the same time. |
| 11:14.03 | Gnarfoz | otherwise: one x16 and one x8 slot |
| 11:15.50 | Kalroth | quad titan x (new edition) or go home! |
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| 11:36.32 | Gnarfoz | "titan xp" |
| 11:36.36 | Gnarfoz | (for pascal) |
| 11:36.54 | Kalroth | but that's so windows xp |
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| 11:49.28 | Megalon | :o |
| 11:53.34 | quiescens | o.o |
| 11:55.20 | Kalroth | http://i.imgur.com/sK6Aihg.gifv :O |
| 11:56.10 | quiescens | thats going to be a lot to clean up |
| 11:56.35 | Megalon | wow that's disgusting |
| 11:57.02 | Kalroth | but the cookie |
| 11:57.22 | quiescens | \o/ |
| 11:59.35 | Megalon | but why put chocolte in it |
| 11:59.44 | Megalon | looks like someone took a dump in the dough :s |
| 12:03.04 | Megalon | probably tastes good though |
| 12:03.30 | Kalroth | you dare question the chocolate cookie?! |
| 12:05.43 | Megalon | i dare! |
| 12:06.41 | Gnarfoz | should have let it cool enough for the chocolate to solidify :P |
| 12:09.58 | Gnarfoz | should I care about CL16-18-18-38 vs. CL16-16-16-36? |
| 12:10.01 | Gnarfoz | (same frequency) |
| 12:10.09 | quiescens | i doubt its worth it |
| 12:10.14 | Gnarfoz | that seems like an utterly miniscule difference |
| 12:12.48 | Kalroth | yeah, i would grab the cheaper one of those two :p |
| 12:13.47 | Gnarfoz | or 15-15-15-35! |
| 12:13.53 | Gnarfoz | bleeeh. :D |
| 12:18.52 | Gnarfoz | I shouldn't worry about M.2 22110, right? |
| 12:19.05 | Gnarfoz | looks like there's a total of 4 or so SSDs for that |
| 12:22.56 | Kalroth | yeah, i think 2280 is the winner |
| 12:27.49 | Megalon | *foz keep your wishlist saved, in case i'm gonna do computer stuff after everything is done here :P |
| 12:29.26 | Megalon | doing that legion stuff the 4th time on my twinks, wondering if Stanzilla needs to take vacation to do it on all of his :P |
| 12:30.36 | Gnarfoz | you don't need vacation when you don't have a job |
| 12:31.28 | Gnarfoz | Geizhals filtering is just awesome http://geizhals.de/?cat=mbp4_1151&xf=2387_2~317_Z170~4400_1~4400_2~4618_3~4861_Realtek~4862_ALC1150~4862_ALC892~4862_ALC898~493_4x+DDR4+DIMM~7977_3200~8405_PCIe+3.0+x4+%2B+SATA#xf_top |
| 12:31.32 | Gnarfoz | many filters, handle it |
| 12:37.20 | Megalon | many filters |
| 12:37.21 | Megalon | such geiz |
| 12:39.03 | Gnarfoz | znf:Â Niantic banned my PTC account ^^ |
| 12:39.23 | Gnarfoz | (even though I hadn't been running the maps script ever since they introduced dat crypto a few weeks ago) |
| 12:40.04 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel:Â is having a display attached to the IGP still required to make use of stuff like QuickSync with Z170? |
| 12:40.42 | Gnarfoz | http://geizhals.de/msi-z170a-sli-7998-018r-a1447290.html looks almost perfect, except it's the single board that doesn't have any video connectors (and tbh very few USB ports) |
| 12:40.45 | nevcairiel | i think so |
| 12:41.02 | nevcairiel | and if the board doesnt even have video output, its probably entirely disabled |
| 12:41.20 | nevcairiel | wtf is with the empty IO brakcet on that one anyway |
| 12:41.51 | Gnarfoz | yeah, pretty stripped down |
| 12:42.09 | nevcairiel | thats really "very few", 4 USB wouldnt cut it for me, would need to start getting hubs =p |
| 12:42.26 | nebula | what all do you have plugged in? |
| 12:42.57 | Gnarfoz | I could survive with 4, most of my stuff is attached to the USB hubs in my displays |
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| 12:43.31 | Gnarfoz | (there's a "plus" variant that adds video outputs, but no further USB) |
| 12:43.38 | nevcairiel | keyboard, hub in the keyboard, mouse, headset, xbox controller, TV thingy, hub in the monitor |
| 12:45.26 | nevcairiel | not to mention that i need two more when using the oculus |
| 12:46.27 | Gnarfoz | this seems more sensible http://geizhals.de/asrock-z170-extreme4-90-mxgyj0-a0uayz-a1306610.html |
| 12:47.11 | Gnarfoz | asrock yay/boo? |
| 12:47.12 | Gnarfoz | hmm. |
| 12:47.51 | nevcairiel | havent used asrock ever |
| 12:48.01 | nevcairiel | they used to be some cheapo brand years ago, but apparently thats no longer true |
| 12:48.17 | Kalroth | asrock server hardware is pretty solid |
| 12:48.38 | Gnarfoz | I hear asrock rack is a different entity |
| 12:48.53 | nevcairiel | the MSI you linked doesnt even have optical audio out, does it? i use that sometimes |
| 12:49.25 | Gnarfoz | yeah, noticed that, too |
| 12:49.29 | Gnarfoz | just a weird duckling |
| 12:49.50 | Gnarfoz | is that 3 full slots between the first and second x16 on that asrock? |
| 12:50.18 | nevcairiel | 2 slots space |
| 12:50.25 | Gnarfoz | ...it kind of has to be, or the other following slots wouldn't fit into the grid :D |
| 12:50.31 | nevcairiel | so room for a 3 slot GPU |
| 12:50.35 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I meant room for a 3-slot gpu |
| 12:50.48 | Gnarfoz | those gainward/palit monsters ^^ |
| 12:51.16 | Gnarfoz | although I must laud MSI for making what appears to be the best solution that stays within 2 slots |
| 12:51.59 | Gnarfoz | I wonder why MSI puts PCI slots on "gaming" boards |
| 12:52.14 | nevcairiel | i havent seen that, on which? |
| 12:53.12 | nevcairiel | more boards still have those then i thought, how odd |
| 12:54.39 | Gnarfoz | http://geizhals.de/msi-z170a-tomahawk-ac-7970-003r-a1307992.html?hloc=at&hloc=de and others |
| 12:56.02 | nevcairiel | yeah i just filtered over having pci, msi isnt the only one |
| 12:56.11 | nevcairiel | i would've though they died out by now |
| 12:56.17 | nevcairiel | thought* |
| 12:57.27 | Gnarfoz | well, PS/2 hasn't kicked the bucket, yet, either ^^ |
| 12:59.07 | nevcairiel | some people claim PS/2 has advantages for input devices |
| 12:59.27 | nevcairiel | because PS/2 can send interrupt signals to the cpu while USB needs polling |
| 13:00.23 | nevcairiel | it alöso used to be the only way to get n-key rollover, but usb keyboards fixed that mostly |
| 13:00.27 | nevcairiel | -ö |
| 13:01.40 | Gnarfoz | http://geizhals.de/asrock-z170-oc-formula-90-mxgr80-a0uayz-a1306920.html all the slots, all the cpu phases, 4133 MHz ram... yeah. wtf |
| 13:02.02 | nevcairiel | also the cost of 2 boards :D |
| 13:02.25 | nevcairiel | asrock has the silliest OC boards with all the crazy features |
| 13:06.03 | Gnarfoz | looks like http://geizhals.de/asrock-z170-extreme4-90-mxgyj0-a0uayz-a1306610.html is going to make the race |
| 13:06.44 | nevcairiel | lets see if it qualifies |
| 13:06.49 | Gnarfoz | hah |
| 13:07.04 | Gnarfoz | should check the QVL for RAM |
| 13:07.59 | Gnarfoz | mhhh. not on there. |
| 13:08.13 | nevcairiel | again one of those where the m2 is under the gpu, but guess thats only a small issue |
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| 13:09.24 | Gnarfoz | I don't even have an M.2 SSD for now ^^ |
| 13:09.24 | nevcairiel | i just hate replacing the GPU, getting it out of its slot is always so annoying since you cant reach the unlock clamp =p |
| 13:10.17 | Megalon | :> |
| 13:11.37 | Gnarfoz | hmmm, the only 3200 MHz modules they have on their QVL are 8GB or smaller... I wonder if that's because of availability at release or because it won't work ^^ |
| 13:11.53 | Gnarfoz | (well... QVL just says "it should work" not "what's not on here won't work") |
| 13:24.33 | Megalon | buy, test, return if not workywork! |
| 14:11.28 | znf | Gnarfoz, yeah, got a message today that my account was terminated, too |
| 14:11.33 | znf | (it stopped working a few days ago anyway) |
| 14:17.07 | Gnarfoz | hrm |
| 14:17.26 | Gnarfoz | I think I left my AiO cooler's additional mounting crap at my parents' place |
| 14:17.46 | Gnarfoz | or is Sandy/Skylake the same in that regard |
| 14:20.44 | quiescens | stickytape |
| 14:21.31 | Gnarfoz | http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z170%20Extreme4/?cat=Memory&Model=Z170%20Extreme4&Vendor= 1 module only? what |
| 14:22.45 | Phixion | merges Gnarfoz with znf |
| 14:27.22 | Gnarfoz | guess I get to buy random stuff that might or might not work together |
| 14:27.25 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 14:28.12 | nevcairiel | memory QVL listings are always a bit weird |
| 14:28.27 | znf | QVL? |
| 14:28.35 | nevcairiel | google |
| 14:28.36 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 14:28.40 | Gnarfoz | qualified vendor list |
| 14:28.45 | znf | ah |
| 14:28.52 | znf | is still on ddr3 |
| 14:28.59 | nevcairiel | they had qvl there too |
| 14:30.14 | Gnarfoz | sad thing: should have done all this one day in the past so I get stuff before the weekend ;p |
| 14:30.46 | znf | maybe |
| 14:30.57 | nevcairiel | probably too late now to get delivery tomorrow |
| 14:31.00 | nevcairiel | maybe caturday |
| 14:31.19 | Gnarfoz | maybe CL16 RAM would be better for higher chance of compatibility? |
| 14:31.37 | nevcairiel | skylake has the most advanced memory controller on any CPU, if its not going to work with that.. |
| 14:31.50 | nevcairiel | and better timings are usually easy, pushing higher clocks is what makes it freak out |
| 14:32.03 | Gnarfoz | ok? I'd have thought tighter timings would be more troublesome |
| 14:32.12 | Gnarfoz | https://geizhals.de/?cat=WL-575161 current list |
| 14:32.24 | Gnarfoz | +/- a graphics card for no particular reason |
| 14:32.25 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 14:32.31 | nevcairiel | 3200 CL15 should be perfectly fine |
| 14:32.47 | Gnarfoz | but most of them are not in stock, must be selling like hot cakes |
| 14:32.57 | nevcairiel | personally i have trident z instead of ripjaws, i forgot the difference |
| 14:33.44 | nevcairiel | (but i also have 4x8 modules) |
| 14:35.31 | Gnarfoz | no idea: https://geizhals.de/g-skill-ripjaws-v-schwarz-dimm-kit-32gb-f4-3200c15d-32gvk-a1382551.html?hloc=at&hloc=de https://geizhals.de/g-skill-trident-z-schwarz-gelb-dimm-kit-32gb-f4-3200c15d-32gtzky-a1463446.html?hloc=at&hloc=de |
| 14:35.36 | Gnarfoz | looks identical |
| 14:35.43 | znf | getting those CLs just right for that 1 extra fps! |
| 14:36.34 | Gnarfoz | one difference: ripjaws available at good price from Mindfactory, trident z only "yellow" from various others |
| 14:36.43 | nevcairiel | who knows |
| 14:36.53 | nevcairiel | like i sa id, 8gb modules and months ago! |
| 14:37.53 | Gnarfoz | desktop CPUs don't slow the memory frequency with 2 DPC? |
| 14:38.12 | Gnarfoz | (dimms per channel, not that latency thing, for once) |
| 14:38.38 | Gnarfoz | I guess modern ones wouldn't at 2... but they're UDIMMs ^^ |
| 14:38.39 | nevcairiel | i have quad channel <.< |
| 14:38.45 | Gnarfoz | right, you're cheating |
| 14:38.46 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 14:39.07 | nevcairiel | so, no clue |
| 14:43.19 | quiescens | nerf nevcairiel |
| 14:51.23 | Gnarfoz | the ASRock mainboard has "ASRock Live Update & APP Shop" |
| 14:51.25 | Gnarfoz | oO |
| 14:53.25 | nevcairiel | the software those companies provide is often quite silly |
| 14:53.34 | nevcairiel | better dont look what that asus tool can all do |
| 14:54.18 | Gnarfoz | "- ASRock OMG (Online Management Guard)" |
| 14:54.34 | nevcairiel | doesnt asrock also have the PC dryer mode |
| 14:54.37 | znf | yeah |
| 14:54.38 | Megalon | lol |
| 14:54.41 | znf | mine has it |
| 14:54.42 | Megalon | the what mode |
| 14:54.52 | Gnarfoz | what the hell |
| 14:54.58 | znf | Megalon, if you leave on vacation, the board will boot up a bit to "dry up" |
| 14:55.09 | znf | useful in you're a high humidity environment |
| 14:55.25 | Megalon | lolwut |
| 14:55.55 | Gnarfoz | seems someone went on a company retreat to Florida, got drunk and tried very hard to come up with some new feature |
| 15:00.39 | znf | it's useful, if you don't have AC :P |
| 15:00.46 | znf | https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/3w4e2v/my_motherboard_has_a_dehumidifier_function_should/ |
| 15:01.43 | Megalon | so if use your pc in like the rainforest, got it |
| 15:02.36 | znf | yes |
| 15:13.44 | Gnarfoz | this model just looks ridiculous https://www.computerbase.de/bildstrecke/72846/10/ |
| 15:27.21 | Megalon | it's a ventilation card |
| 15:27.25 | Megalon | that comes with a gpu |
| 15:36.31 | znf | the fuck is that damn legion cafe |
| 15:38.35 | pompy | http://gamerant.com/overwatch-replaces-gg-ez-expression/ |
| 15:40.43 | znf | old |
| 15:46.01 | Gnarfoz | znf:Â it's a cafe in Cologne that Blizzard rented & re-styled with a Legion theme, from what I know? ^^ |
| 15:46.26 | Gnarfoz | and they do various non-cafe-y things there |
| 15:46.32 | Gnarfoz | (legion-y, though) |
| 15:48.05 | znf | Oh. I just found a nice car for 3500â¬. |
| 15:48.09 | znf | uhm... |
| 15:48.12 | znf | is so tempted |
| 15:52.06 | Gnarfoz | I just found a nice GPU for 700⬠- so tempted |
| 15:54.17 | quiescens | don't do it |
| 15:54.44 | nevcairiel | do it! |
| 15:54.56 | Fisker | hey nevcairiel |
| 15:54.59 | Fisker | what gpu Gnarfoz ? |
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| 15:59.55 | Gnarfoz | it's actually not available anywhere. https://geizhals.eu/palit-geforce-gtx-1080-gamerock-premium-neb1080h15p2g-a1449283.html |
| 16:00.33 | Gnarfoz | (and I'm not buying that unless I find a 500⬠bank note on the street later... the 1070 model of it is a beast, but it, too, is not available anywhere, yet) |
| 16:00.48 | Gnarfoz | probably going to wait for that, if I even replace the GPU soon at all |
| 16:01.10 | Gnarfoz | 1060 is too little of an upgrade, imho (even though it is one) |
| 16:09.12 | nevcairiel | But it's so terribly ugly :D |
| 16:11.10 | Gnarfoz | I don't have a window in my case anyway |
| 16:13.38 | znf | Gnarfoz, so why are you looking for new mobo? |
| 16:13.42 | znf | still getting latency? |
| 16:13.45 | znf | with the usb ethernet? |
| 16:16.20 | Fisker | Stanzilla http://forum.telus.com/t5/Mobility/Software-Update-Schedule/ta-p/53566 |
| 16:18.44 | Gnarfoz | znf:Â yes, no difference |
| 16:19.05 | Gnarfoz | also, general lust to waste some money, apparently! |
| 16:19.06 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 16:19.23 | quiescens | buy cookies |
| 16:20.20 | Gnarfoz | (and I'm more and more convincing myself to finally move my HDDs into a separate machine, and I need mb/cpu/ram/psu for that anyway... I could of course buy something low-powered specifically for that, but then I have a server with shiny 2016 hardware and my desktop is still on sandy bridge) |
| 16:21.35 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel:Â I'm wondering if I should go with Linux+mergerfs+snapraid... disks are NTFS, but that shouldn't really make a difference these days |
| 16:24.43 | nevcairiel | Can't really comment on that |
| 16:25.37 | Gnarfoz | me neither, lol |
| 16:25.38 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 16:25.57 | Gnarfoz | what's a win10 pro licence cost these days... |
| 16:26.20 | nevcairiel | OEM from Amazon, 60ish? |
| 16:26.24 | Gnarfoz | 33⬠|
| 16:26.28 | nevcairiel | OK! |
| 16:26.37 | Gnarfoz | ESD |
| 16:26.53 | Gnarfoz | just need the key anyway ^^ |
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| 16:32.11 | Gnarfoz | mergerfs has the advantage of being able to better control what goes where |
| 16:32.36 | Gnarfoz | stuff like "keep all files belonging to a TV show on the same drive" ^^ |
| 16:33.05 | Gnarfoz | although I think no solution offers a way to set those rules and then enforce them after the fact, I'd have to do that manually, probably |
| 16:34.20 | nevcairiel | You mean move files to sort them? |
| 16:34.44 | nevcairiel | Yeah don't think so |
| 16:37.30 | Fisker | I should get some encryption for my nas I think |
| 16:40.02 | wink | md5() |
| 16:42.54 | quiescens | write speed is okay, but i think read speed will be lacklustre |
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| 16:45.45 | znf | obviously you need to do zfs, Gnarfoz |
| 16:45.53 | quiescens | znf will help |
| 16:47.28 | znf | there's no other way |
| 16:49.49 | Gnarfoz | znfs |
| 16:52.11 | znf | raidz+2 it's where it's at |
| 16:53.43 | znf | Gnarfoz, would you like to do 10x4 instead of 8x5 hours/days of work? |
| 16:54.16 | Gnarfoz | zfs is overrated |
| 16:54.41 | Gnarfoz | as long as you don't need realtime (which I don't), snapraid is way better |
| 16:55.09 | Gnarfoz | I'm not sure, probably not |
| 16:55.28 | Gnarfoz | if getting up earlier was easy for me, maybe |
| 16:55.28 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 16:55.41 | znf | it sounds perfect to me, tbh |
| 16:55.53 | Repo | rarity: 03allara 04r565-release * r566 : Tagging as r565-release |
| 16:56.14 | Gnarfoz | (also 10x4 would make unexpected overtime a bit hard. 10h is the max legally here) |
| 16:56.17 | znf | if you're at work for 8 hours, from 9 to 5, I would rather stay from 9 to 7 if that means I get one more day off |
| 16:56.53 | Gnarfoz | well, if you work 8h, that doesn't result in 9-17 |
| 16:57.05 | Gnarfoz | here it results in at least 9-17:30 ^^ |
| 16:57.15 | znf | silly lunch breaks |
| 16:57.24 | Gnarfoz | (and if you go over 9h, it |
| 16:57.39 | Gnarfoz | you gain/lose another 15 minutes |
| 16:57.59 | znf | ...just german things |
| 16:58.21 | Gnarfoz | anyhow, it's possible... if I had no trouble getting up early enough to be in the office by 9, I'd perhaps consider staying until 19 to get 3 days off instead of 2 |
| 16:58.47 | Gnarfoz | (also I'm actually not on a 40h week, it'd be a bit less...) |
| 16:58.54 | Gnarfoz | :shrug: |
| 16:59.07 | Megalon | isn't it 38.5 anyway :P |
| 16:59.09 | Gnarfoz | not an option anyway at the moment, so purely hypothetical |
| 16:59.40 | Gnarfoz | it is for me, but why would it be in general? |
| 16:59.47 | wink | came to work at 10:30, 1h lunch break, left at 16:30 |
| 16:59.50 | wink | doing it correctly? |
| 16:59.52 | Gnarfoz | yep |
| 16:59.59 | Gnarfoz | it's called Gleitzeit! |
| 17:00.29 | Megalon | many kollektivverträge have the 38.5 |
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| 17:03.25 | wink | 3 day weekend sounds awesomne though |
| 17:04.29 | Gnarfoz | what's that, even |
| 17:04.44 | Gnarfoz | (also I'm on 39, not sure how I thought I was on 38.5) |
| 17:05.38 | znf | oh yeah, I rule http://i.imgur.com/scvt1qc.jpg |
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| 17:06.38 | Repo | tidyplates_threat: 03iceeagle 04v1.7 * f2ec709 /: [new tag] release v1.7 |
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| 17:06.40 | Gnarfoz | good job, you're exactly average! |
| 17:07.02 | Gnarfoz | wondering if all that extra shipping cost was worth it :p |
| 17:13.32 | Gnarfoz | https://github.com/trapexit/mergerfs-tools#mergerfsrebalance "to be created" ^^ |
| 17:14.07 | quiescens | go to sleep |
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| 18:09.56 | Repo | skada: 03zarnivoop * r654 Skada.lua: |
| 18:09.56 | Repo | Total segment is now merged together at startup, and not persisted; should cut down on memory usage quite a bit for muppets that never reset |
| 18:11.05 | Megalon | muppets, woah |
| 18:34.53 | EthanCentaurai | the ceiling lights are expensive. they are an overhead overhead. |
| 18:36.00 | quiescens | o.o |
| 18:36.07 | quiescens | gives EthanCentaurai a cookie |
| 18:36.15 | EthanCentaurai | o.o |
| 18:36.19 | EthanCentaurai | eats the cookie |
| 18:38.00 | EthanCentaurai | thank you quiescens :) |
| 18:49.35 | Megalon | death by cookie :( |
| 18:57.26 | znf | DO is starting to charge for snapshots |
| 18:57.27 | znf | interesting |
| 19:40.49 | Megalon | indubitably |
| 19:46.16 | znf | anyone has smart led bulbs? |
| 19:48.00 | Gnarfoz | only dumb ones |
| 19:51.13 | znf | wait, how is it that I changed Curse password, but the curse client doesn't ask me for the new password...?! |
| 19:51.32 | Stanzilla | already reported |
| 19:51.38 | znf | O.O |
| 19:52.43 | znf | let me guess |
| 19:52.52 | znf | there's no way to rename a 2nd copy of wow |
| 19:53.07 | znf | oh, nvm |
| 19:53.11 | Stanzilla | there is |
| 19:53.35 | znf | wasn't obvious at first |
| 20:04.20 | znf | oh, Stanzilla http://i.imgur.com/hzfO6R7.png |
| 20:05.31 | Stanzilla | grats |
| 20:10.29 | Gnarfoz | you beta-ing it up? |
| 20:10.31 | znf | wait |
| 20:10.37 | znf | they nerfed Madness? |
| 20:10.37 | znf | lol |
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| 20:27.26 | Repo | skada: 03zarnivoop * r655 modules/Tweaks.lua: fix for GBOM handling |
| 20:32.30 | znf | Boosted to a +7 mythic O.O |
| 20:39.47 | Repo | skada: 03zarnivoop * r656 Skada.lua: fix for the recent change with Total segment |
| 20:45.47 | Repo | archud3: 03nyyr * r165 (2 files in 1 directory): Set Demon Hunter's Fury to fade when OOC |
| 20:46.26 | Repo | archud3: 03nyyr 04v4.2.1 * r166 : Tagging as v4.2.1 |
| 20:47.22 | znf | zarnivoop, you broke it |
| 20:49.35 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/RpdRqFa.png |
| 20:51.16 | pompy | znf: thats quite the latency |
| 20:53.12 | znf | beta |
| 20:59.10 | zarnivoop | znf: same with r656? |
| 21:00.55 | znf | in the middle of a mythic+ |
| 21:08.09 | znf | Stanzilla, when the +ilvl bonus is too high to ignore :( http://i.imgur.com/oFclQPA.png |
| 21:08.55 | Stanzilla | :D |
| 21:09.01 | Stanzilla | guess you are healing for a lot now! |
| 21:09.44 | znf | 300k |
| 21:09.54 | znf | well, 299.5k |
| 21:10.05 | znf | just got boosted by some guys trough a +4 then a +7 |
| 21:10.21 | Stanzilla | what did you pay |
| 21:10.39 | znf | nothing? |
| 21:10.41 | znf | I had a key :D |
| 21:10.43 | Stanzilla | it was a joke |
| 21:10.44 | Stanzilla | but ok |
| 21:10.49 | Stanzilla | I blame nebula |
| 21:10.52 | znf | they didn't :D |
| 21:11.03 | znf | now I have a +9 key |
| 21:11.08 | znf | but it's for CoS |
| 21:12.09 | Repo | skada: 03zarnivoop * r657 modules/Deaths.lua: fix for error in death view |
| 21:13.24 | znf | also got this, Stanzilla http://i.imgur.com/0b18Eyu.png |
| 21:13.29 | znf | not sure if it's actually better |
| 21:13.49 | Stanzilla | mastery is quite shitty |
| 21:14.09 | Stanzilla | i'd always take crit and haste over it |
| 21:16.24 | znf | mkay, going +9 |
| 21:56.56 | znf | Stanzilla, mkay, this was fun |
| 21:57.03 | znf | didn't know you could poison the flask of the 1st boss |
| 21:58.28 | nevcairiel | you can do all sorts of funny things in that dungeon based on your profession |
| 21:58.54 | nevcairiel | unless they removed the profession requirement, but that would be sad |
| 21:59.00 | nevcairiel | need alchemy for the flask othertwise |
| 21:59.39 | znf | yes, alchemy or a rogue |
| 21:59.43 | znf | still need professions |
| 22:01.59 | znf | ...and ofc, I find out about the legendary vendor after I do all the dungeons |
| 22:08.16 | Primer | of course* |
| 22:33.21 | znf | Stanzilla, I think the best legendaries are the +damage on void bolt (wrists) and +mb stacks (belt) |
| 22:33.39 | Stanzilla | the cloak was decent too |
| 22:33.39 | Stanzilla | iirc |
| 22:34.05 | znf | cloak? |
| 22:34.17 | znf | there's no cloak? |
| 22:34.42 | znf | not for priests anyway |
| 22:35.17 | Stanzilla | then I did not rc |
| 22:36.05 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 22:36.07 | Stanzilla | it was shoulders |
| 22:36.11 | Stanzilla | http://www.wowhead.com/item=132437/mother-shahrazs-seduction&bonus=1811 |
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| 22:36.42 | znf | I like the double mindblast more |
| 22:36.54 | znf | makes the playstyle more dynamic |
| 22:37.54 | Stanzilla | dynamic as in you dont have to flay during void form |
| 22:38.12 | znf | true |
| 22:39.04 | znf | also allows for movement so you don't regret being targetted by that boss ability that makes you move mid-mindblast cast |
| 22:39.42 | znf | Hmmm, it's 1:40am |
| 22:39.46 | znf | I think I'll go for a walk |
| 22:57.46 | nevcairiel | hm a new fritzbox flagship again |
| 22:59.48 | nevcairiel | if i actually had use of MU-MIMO =P |
| 23:27.17 | znf | I really need to get out of the house more |
| 23:27.20 | znf | this 2km walk killed me |
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