| 00:03.21 | Gnarfoz | the last bit is the only reason, tbh |
| 00:03.35 | znf | why? |
| 00:03.44 | znf | it's expensive as fuck to deploy an old standard |
| 00:04.02 | znf | They actually deploy the cheapest LTE - TDD |
| 00:04.19 | Gnarfoz | it's more likely new stuff is expensive because it's new ^^ |
| 00:04.33 | Gnarfoz | GSM reaches more customers, has higher reach |
| 00:04.45 | Gnarfoz | s/ reach/ range/ |
| 00:04.49 | Gnarfoz | fuuuuuuu |
| 00:04.57 | Gnarfoz | 2 am regexes |
| 00:05.47 | Gnarfoz | yes, it's way more complicated, but hey... you can download GSM base stations. |
| 00:05.57 | Gnarfoz | just need a licence for it to not be illegal |
| 00:06.04 | Gnarfoz | (running it, that is) |
| 00:07.31 | znf | you mean by having an older tech, compatible with more devices? yes sure |
| 00:07.51 | znf | but they can get away with it by being a new network that focuses around mobile data |
| 00:09.27 | Fisker | Did you upgrade from win 8 Gnarfoz ? |
| 00:09.45 | Gnarfoz | no |
| 00:09.59 | Fisker | Weird |
| 00:10.07 | Fisker | And you used the installer? |
| 00:10.10 | Gnarfoz | (and I've changed those Intel drivers a million times during the last round of DPC fun) |
| 00:10.16 | Fisker | Ah okay |
| 00:10.32 | znf | got vmware installed? |
| 00:10.35 | Gnarfoz | I guess Windows might have replaced them with its own, considering "driver provider" said "Microsoft" 5 minutes ago |
| 00:10.53 | znf | or virtualbox |
| 00:10.56 | Fisker | You can check the driver history I guess |
| 00:10.57 | Gnarfoz | ...and that it was only listing that one driver file, whereas the Intel drivers list 5 |
| 00:11.11 | Gnarfoz | (and it's using the ndis 6.5 ones, so that's good) |
| 00:11.35 | Gnarfoz | vmware is not for installing on other OSes, silly pea! :P |
| 00:11.52 | Gnarfoz | (yes I know vmware workstation exists, no, I don't know why! :P) |
| 00:12.09 | Gnarfoz | (and no to both) |
| 00:12.49 | Gnarfoz | I still like how driver versions in that device manager dialog rarely match up to anything they publicly advertise |
| 00:12.55 | znf | because I want to have Win7 around? :P |
| 00:13.00 | znf | sometimes? |
| 00:13.02 | Gnarfoz | hyper-v |
| 00:13.04 | znf | or run linux? |
| 00:13.05 | znf | ew, no |
| 00:13.11 | Gnarfoz | don't need linux anymore, got wsl |
| 00:13.18 | znf | dirty! |
| 00:13.34 | Gnarfoz | what's ew about an actual type-1 hypervisor instead of some type-2 crap like vbox/vmw? :P |
| 00:13.50 | znf | I'm used to it! Shush! |
| 00:13.57 | znf | also, virtual switch crap still gives me the creeps |
| 00:14.16 | Gnarfoz | not sure what you mean ^^ |
| 00:14.31 | Gnarfoz | 12.15.31.4? this doesn't map to "version 21.0" at all :D |
| 00:14.31 | znf | I failed to configure it once, some windows error |
| 00:14.43 | znf | got annoyed |
| 00:14.47 | znf | installed vmware |
| 00:14.49 | znf | problem fixed |
| 00:14.49 | Gnarfoz | well, vmware also has virtual switches |
| 00:15.25 | Gnarfoz | not sure why you would need to use them with one software but not the other... I'm sure hyper-v allows bridging a VM's network, too? |
| 00:16.08 | znf | probably, I honestly don't know |
| 00:16.11 | Gnarfoz | :shrug: the primary reason I don't have hyper-v enabled is it disables cpu power management and turbo boost |
| 00:16.15 | znf | been a while since I've meddled with it |
| 00:16.37 | Gnarfoz | (among other things, it's a different kernel. at least it was in win8. any changes on that front, Fisker?) |
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| 00:19.34 | Fisker | Still different I think |
| 00:19.40 | Fisker | At least it's still exclusive |
| 00:19.48 | Fisker | Doesn't work with haxm etc. |
| 00:25.28 | Gnarfoz | still BRRRRZZTing along with version whatever of the intel drivers... yawn |
| 00:27.27 | znf | install ubuntu |
| 00:27.28 | znf | kvm windows |
| 00:27.29 | znf | done |
| 00:28.02 | Gnarfoz | that sounds like a terrible way to spend a few weeks pulling my hair out |
| 00:28.32 | Gnarfoz | (i'd be using pci passthrough for most relevant bits, at which point... WHY EVEN DO IT) |
| 00:28.43 | Stanzilla | with such an issue |
| 00:28.51 | Stanzilla | I had already bought another motherboard |
| 00:28.55 | Stanzilla | after like 1 week |
| 00:29.24 | Stanzilla | would have had! |
| 00:29.27 | Stanzilla | tenses are hard yo! |
| 00:30.12 | znf | steals Stanzilla's money |
| 00:30.24 | znf | Gnarfoz: am I guessing that if you disable the onboard nic, shit fixes itself? |
| 00:31.28 | znf | if so, try a usb wifi card for a few days and see how it goes? |
| 00:32.38 | Gnarfoz | no, nothing fixes it |
| 00:32.47 | znf | disabling the NIC doesn't fix it...?! |
| 00:32.54 | Gnarfoz | that's what I said |
| 00:32.58 | znf | O.o |
| 00:33.10 | Gnarfoz | also kind of hard to test music streaming without internet |
| 00:33.21 | znf | ...I did say get a usb wifi card |
| 00:33.26 | Gnarfoz | fuck your wifi |
| 00:33.30 | Gnarfoz | wifi would be even worse |
| 00:33.33 | znf | they're like 10eur |
| 00:33.35 | Megalon | fuck your waifu too |
| 00:33.38 | znf | it's for testing, jesus |
| 00:33.52 | znf | Megalon: hey, don't screw with my newly found anime passion, ok? |
| 00:33.53 | Gnarfoz | I ordered a usb3 ethernet one earlier today, should be here tomorrow |
| 00:34.04 | znf | ah, cool then |
| 00:34.05 | Gnarfoz | (why would I order wifi) |
| 00:34.19 | Gnarfoz | anyway, that's just another realtek chip in a tp-link case |
| 00:34.40 | Gnarfoz | I already tried onboard intel, onboard realtek, pci-e realtek, pci realtek and pci-e broadcom a while back |
| 00:34.54 | Gnarfoz | you should read the logs, they're totally fun |
| 00:35.50 | Gnarfoz | (I mean it SHOULD be pretty obviously networking-related, considering latencymon basically screams as much, and it only happens while qBT is running ^^) |
| 00:35.51 | znf | nah, not reading them |
| 00:36.05 | Gnarfoz | but.... maybe it's just possessed! :P |
| 00:36.06 | znf | pft, stop pirating then |
| 00:36.15 | Gnarfoz | don't have to pirate, it can even be idle |
| 00:36.29 | znf | easy then |
| 00:36.30 | Gnarfoz | at least I've had it happen with qBT saying 0/0 |
| 00:36.30 | znf | swap torrent client |
| 00:36.38 | Gnarfoz | I've had this before using qBT |
| 00:36.44 | Gnarfoz | and I'm not migrating 900 torrents again! :P |
| 00:36.57 | znf | much pirating |
| 00:37.02 | znf | is still on utorrent 2.2.1 |
| 00:37.08 | Gnarfoz | many linux isos! |
| 00:37.18 | Megalon | many aka 2 |
| 00:37.27 | Megalon | probably less than |
| 00:37.29 | Gnarfoz | many people swear by that, but it's really ancient |
| 00:39.30 | znf | I never had a reason to upgrade |
| 00:39.47 | znf | sure, magnet links are a bit funky, but meh |
| 00:40.52 | Gnarfoz | it doesn't scale well (which only becomes a problem if you exceed a couple of linux isos) |
| 00:41.25 | znf | I have over 400... linux isos |
| 00:41.30 | Gnarfoz | has various caching/buffering issues (some people say "turn it all off", some say "turn it all on", some say "use THESE values, and no others"... yeah) |
| 00:41.32 | znf | some are even hardcore... linux isos |
| 00:41.49 | Gnarfoz | apart from that, I'm not paying close attention |
| 00:41.59 | Gnarfoz | it's being used by many for a reason, I guess |
| 00:42.15 | znf | my oldest torrent in it is from 2011 :D |
| 00:43.10 | znf | I'm actually wondering about stats |
| 00:43.15 | znf | but that's not where I did most of my torrenting |
| 00:44.17 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/6fKEr28.png |
| 00:44.19 | znf | barely 28tb |
| 00:47.07 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: mildly interestingly, HPET or no HPET, as long as I don't enable useplatformclock, it has the exact same timer frequency, so probably the TSC thing |
| 00:47.32 | znf | I think you're going overboard :P |
| 00:48.19 | Gnarfoz | how so |
| 00:48.41 | Gnarfoz | if you know a simple solution, or even an actual reason for it happening, I'm open to suggestions |
| 00:50.02 | Gnarfoz | (going "over"board would probably be a good idea: new mainboard... but I'm not buying a new 1155 board :P) |
| 00:53.46 | Gnarfoz | maybe time for a non-asus board next time |
| 00:59.26 | znf | reinstall windows? :D |
| 00:59.51 | Gnarfoz | been there done t hat |
| 01:00.07 | Gnarfoz | had it on 7, 8.1, 10; it was gone at times, too |
| 01:01.00 | Gnarfoz | BRRRZT |
| 01:01.24 | Gnarfoz | whatever. I'll just keep on not running qBT during most of the day when I'm home. A shame, but I've not found a solution, yet. ^^ |
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| 01:01.36 | Gnarfoz | maybe DAT DONGLE will help, I have my doubts, though. |
| 01:04.37 | Megalon | raise your dong..le? |
| 01:05.38 | Gnarfoz | interesting, the International Nonproprietary Names for Amphetamine is Amfetamine |
| 01:05.46 | Gnarfoz | ;D that looks weird |
| 01:07.41 | znf | drugs are not weird |
| 01:07.42 | znf | drugs are niec |
| 01:07.44 | znf | nice |
| 01:08.10 | znf | Gnarfoz: where do you set the number of active torrents in qbt? |
| 01:08.20 | znf | I have it on the laptop and I've no idea where the hell is it |
| 01:08.25 | Megalon | they are znf, and we could all have a good time with time |
| 01:08.41 | Megalon | but what about sarah, she clubbed her kids to death while on a trip, THANKS SARAH |
| 01:09.00 | Gnarfoz | options > bittorent > queuing |
| 01:09.00 | znf | good thing I'm not making as much money as nev does |
| 01:09.05 | znf | I'd be doing cocaine every week |
| 01:09.28 | Gnarfoz | (don't blame qbt, those are libtorrent options) |
| 01:09.41 | znf | I don't see that option? |
| 01:09.45 | znf | oh |
| 01:09.47 | znf | nevermind, found it |
| 01:09.51 | znf | how did I miss that |
| 01:09.59 | Gnarfoz | too much cocaine? |
| 01:10.12 | znf | nope, can't afford it |
| 01:10.30 | znf | I only have some beta-keto and some weed at home |
| 01:10.30 | Megalon | well, nothing a few backyard blowjobs can't fix |
| 01:25.49 | znf | lol xp hotfix |
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| 01:37.07 | Megalon | less per invasion but more invasions |
| 01:37.28 | Myrroddin | * eats one of quiscens cookies |
| 02:03.04 | znf | mega: no, new one |
| 02:03.28 | znf | http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748605651?page=20#post-397 |
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| 02:07.10 | Megalon | oh they buffed it again? |
| 02:07.11 | Megalon | haha |
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| 02:41.33 | srge | it seems kinda bad. killing named mobs with 40 people attacking didn't really grant much xp. dunno if it wasn't applied yet when i tried |
| 03:13.27 | quiescens | moo |
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| 03:29.23 | Repo | setcollector: 03lomiedo * r114 DB.lua: Adds several additional sets |
| 03:40.03 | Stanzilla | hey Torhal |
| 03:40.14 | Torhal | It's Stanzilla! |
| 03:40.30 | Stanzilla | SC2 is on sale if you don't have the latest expansion yet |
| 03:41.32 | Torhal | Hmm. |
| 03:41.50 | Torhal | Thanks, maybe I'll snatch it. I still haven't played HotS though. |
| 03:41.59 | Torhal | Silly acronym recycling! |
| 03:44.10 | quiescens | they should totally name things based on what the acronym will be |
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| 07:09.41 | Myrroddin | * eats another of quiscens cookies |
| 07:15.16 | Kalroth | i did it for the cookie |
| 07:16.41 | Phixion | morning |
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| 08:01.12 | sb | Torhal / Zeldo: anything wrong with curseforce orders not being processed (amazon gift certs)? (twitch??) |
| 08:01.40 | nevcairiel | just be patient, they dont auto-fill anymore |
| 08:02.13 | sb | oh |
| 08:03.09 | sb | didnt know - when did they change this behavior? |
| 08:03.48 | nebula | did they turn it off because of the fraud stuff? |
| 08:04.28 | Torhal | nebula: Yes |
| 08:04.40 | Torhal | sb: Give me order numbers in a PM and I'll handle it. |
| 08:04.52 | nebula | is it going to be turned back on now that you're reset everyone's password? |
| 08:04.59 | nebula | you've* |
| 08:05.10 | Torhal | It will be, I just don't know when. |
| 08:05.34 | nebula | now if only paypal was automated ;; |
| 08:05.48 | Torhal | I do hope now we'll be able to just give a yell when we need more Amazon cards instead of dealing with merchants with weird timetables. |
| 08:06.26 | nebula | i've always assumed you bought them en mass from amazon direct |
| 08:07.49 | nevcairiel | i do hope the new overlords dont find the program to just cost money and can it =p |
| 08:08.04 | nevcairiel | sounds totally like something new owners might do! |
| 08:08.50 | Myrroddin | curse has new owners? or did i miss something again? |
| 08:08.52 | nebula | i never read the article, did twitch buy it or amazon directlyl? |
| 08:09.16 | nevcairiel | twitch |
| 08:09.47 | nebula | Myrroddin: https://blog.twitch.tv/twitch-and-curse-8ae2b20acf91#.ljs7atim8 |
| 08:11.13 | Myrroddin | oooOOOooo |
| 08:11.57 | Myrroddin | that explains a few things, like the new client |
| 08:12.11 | nebula | i imagine they were aquired because of the new client :p |
| 08:12.39 | nebula | but who knows how long they've been in talks |
| 08:13.18 | Myrroddin | ha ha, i was inferring the reverse. |
| 08:14.18 | Myrroddin | i'd still buy that for a dollar! |
| 08:14.22 | Funkeh` | that's what I said nebula |
| 08:14.35 | nevcairiel | the curse app itself isnt that new, is it? it mostly started out as a client for curse voice, b ut thats been over a year now or so? |
| 08:14.40 | Funkeh` | you could also theorize they made the client to be sold |
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| 08:15.06 | nebula | the initial curse voice client came out in like 2013 or something |
| 08:15.37 | Funkeh` | bye repo |
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| 08:17.23 | nevcairiel | hi repo |
| 08:17.54 | nebula | it's cool, the computer still randomly reboots, but repo is a service that starts on boot now! |
| 08:18.33 | wink | lol |
| 08:20.46 | Funkeh` | the windows 98 machine in the corner |
| 08:23.41 | quiescens | pats repo |
| 08:23.51 | nebula | kicks repo |
| 08:24.02 | quiescens | ): |
| 08:24.05 | quiescens | thats not very nice |
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| 09:15.45 | Phixion | kicks quiescens |
| 09:15.50 | quiescens | dies. |
| 09:15.56 | Phixion | pats the corpse |
| 09:16.17 | nebula | steals quiescens' cookies |
| 09:18.28 | quiescens | ): |
| 09:32.16 | Gnarfoz | Funkeh`:Â rock solid... except for the reboots :D |
| 09:34.16 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel:Â I'd hope they realize the rewards program is part of what got Curse where it is today ^^ |
| 09:40.19 | Repo | pets-and-mounts: 03Shenton 07master * v1.8.1-6-g6f850fd (8 files in 4 directories): [+1 commit] Added mounts filters store/restore Fixed errors when getting mounts names Fixed forced pet and mount by area Fixed buttons reset when docked Fixed icons selection frame |
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| 09:51.46 | Repo | shadowed-unit-frames: 03Nevcairiel 07master * v4.1.6-1-g705d692 (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Cleanup text tags a bit more to avoid errors and restore consistency |
| 09:53.45 | Repo | maxcam: 03Ketho 07master * v2.0-1-gfb41ecf (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Fix stack overflow when DynamicCam Reactive Zoom option is enabled |
| 09:57.06 | Gnarfoz | stack overflow for something as simple as increasing the camera zoom cvar oO |
| 09:57.21 | Gnarfoz | (yeah yeah I know it did something else before you forced Blizzard to fix/break that) |
| 09:57.26 | quiescens | stop breaking things gnarfoz |
| 09:57.27 | nevcairiel | it does all sorts of other things for reasons |
| 09:57.28 | quiescens | o.o |
| 09:57.36 | Gnarfoz | how much of that remains? |
| 10:04.55 | Repo | pets-and-mounts: 03Shenton 07master * v1.8.1-9-g0bd8d72 (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Fixing my derp with pkgmeta Bumping addon version |
| 10:05.38 | Repo | shadowed-unit-frames: 03Nevcairiel 07master * v4.1.6-2-g74414ef ShadowedUnitFrames.lua: [+1 commit] Properly mark the default text tags as default |
| 10:08.29 | quiescens | 2 |
| 10:09.26 | Repo | shadowed-unit-frames: 03Nevcairiel 07master * v4.1.6-3-gba329df ShadowedUnitFrames.lua: [+1 commit] More text tag defaults, don't need to save them in the SV |
| 10:28.07 | Shenton | nevcairiel there is some typo errors in SUF that Shadowed refused to fix for years, maybe you can take a look :) |
| 10:28.26 | nevcairiel | why do those matter |
| 10:29.39 | Shenton | It is in the file modules/layout.lua around line 190, in tables columnDirection and auraDirection some keys, IBR and IBL, should be BRI and BLI |
| 10:32.48 | nevcairiel | these seem to be unused either way |
| 10:42.38 | Shenton | I'm using them for years, before text anchors were added to the configuration panel, and inside bottom left and right are the only missing options for text anchor points :) |
| 10:49.11 | Ketho | Gnarfoz: instead of the low orbit cam it now just sets the max distance to 39 and makes zooming in/out a bit faster |
| 11:10.29 | Gnarfoz | znf:Â my body is ready https://goo.gl/photos/E3SeV7t8L51Mpwju7 |
| 11:20.42 | Repo | adibuttonauras: 03Adirelle 07master * 2.0-beta-6-21-gd1fdabe (5 files in 3 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 11:20.42 | Repo | d1fdabe: core: remove DRData |
| 11:20.42 | Repo | 54a4791: core: use LPS for CC DR rules |
| 11:27.33 | Repo | pets-and-mounts: 03Shenton 04v1.8.2 * 35b20c7 /: [new tag] Tagging as v1.8.2 |
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| 12:02.04 | Repo | whotip: 03nebula169 * r16 (2 files in 1 directory): bump toc |
| 12:06.50 | Repo | adibuttonauras: 03Adirelle 07master * 2.0-beta-6-22-g1d05ee9 .github/ISSUE_TEMPLATE.md: [+1 commit] Use github's issue template |
| 12:10.30 | Phixion | why Gnarfoz ? |
| 12:10.45 | Phixion | your body has got a usb 3.0 port? |
| 12:13.09 | nevcairiel | your doesnt? |
| 12:13.14 | nevcairiel | time for an upgrade then |
| 12:13.29 | Kalroth | better off waiting for 3.1 type-c |
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| 12:50.55 | Gnarfoz | obsolete terminology in this here channel |
| 12:53.52 | Gnarfoz | https://www.computerbase.de/2016-08/youtube-gaming-deutschland-gestartet/ I guess I was using fake yt gaming a couple of months ago, then? |
| 13:01.11 | Fisker | It was never officially launched outside the US or so I think Gnarfoz |
| 13:01.16 | Fisker | But it's working fine so whatever |
| 13:04.45 | xmyno | you could not watch live streams on youtube gaming iirc |
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| 13:10.24 | Repo | pitbull4: 03nebula169 07master * v4.0.3-8-gc503911 Modules/ (4 files in 2 directories): [+7 commits] (3 truncated) |
| 13:10.24 | Repo | c503911: LuaTexts: Whitespace and other completely unnecessary changes |
| 13:10.24 | Repo | 81a5edf: LuaTexts: Remove Eclipse and Demonic Fury texts |
| 13:10.24 | Repo | cdf1797: Aura: Update filter options |
| 13:10.24 | Repo | 627e1b2: Aura: Remove all the compat for removed spells |
| 13:13.44 | Megalon | hey there friends, foes, frenemies and friendswithbenefits |
| 13:18.32 | Megalon | xmyno: hm? |
| 13:19.06 | Megalon | every live stream on youtube always had the "watch it on youtube gaming" thing pop up for me |
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| 13:20.16 | xmyno | live streams always said "not available in your country blah", in germany that is |
| 13:21.51 | Repo | pitbull4: 03nebula169 07master * v4.0.3-9-g711f026 UnitFrame.lua: [+1 commit] Revert "Remove all of the custom UnitPopup handling, the default is fine" |
| 13:21.59 | nebula | fucking Stanzilla |
| 13:22.42 | Megalon | really? oh probably because gema |
| 13:22.54 | Megalon | worked fine in östralia |
| 13:23.01 | xmyno | yup might be |
| 13:35.07 | Torhal | nebula: What did that poor bastard do now? |
| 13:35.45 | nebula | something to the effect of "SUF doesn't need to do custom unit frames, why does PB4 have all that code for it" |
| 13:35.54 | nebula | erm, custom unit frame popups |
| 13:36.17 | nevcairiel | personally i'm more annoyed if setfocus breaks then having a few more options |
| 13:36.26 | Torhal | I don't even know what that means, but if that's his actual reasoning you should probably snother him with a pillow. |
| 13:36.52 | nevcairiel | should ask thedan why header-driven raid frames have such a limited dropdown |
| 13:36.58 | nebula | Torhal: right click on a raid unit frame, it has a stripped down option list |
| 13:37.00 | nevcairiel | their own compact raid frames override it with a fully featured one |
| 13:37.14 | nebula | really? lol |
| 13:37.23 | Torhal | Ah |
| 13:37.29 | nevcairiel | of course they can do that because its all untainted code |
| 13:38.13 | nevcairiel | there is two types of raid frame popups, either type "RAID" or type "RAID_PLAYER", i dont know why his distinction exists, but alas the first is the short empty one, and the second is the full one |
| 13:38.29 | nevcairiel | seems almost like a bug that the first one is always used |
| 13:39.56 | nevcairiel | https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/beta/SecureTemplates.lua#196 |
| 13:40.02 | nevcairiel | that functio nselects the dropdown |
| 13:41.14 | nevcairiel | i wonder if you could break it by using "RAID1" as a unit :p |
| 13:41.31 | nebula | lol |
| 13:41.37 | nebula | clever |
| 13:41.48 | nevcairiel | not sure you can override the unit in header frames tho |
| 13:41.59 | nevcairiel | secureDropdown.unit = string.lower(unit); |
| 13:42.00 | nevcairiel | guess not |
| 13:42.01 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 13:43.08 | nebula | i feel like that UnitIsPlayer check should be at the top, not the bottom |
| 13:43.47 | nevcairiel | incidentally the "PARTY" type is a fully-featured type |
| 13:43.55 | nevcairiel | but for some reason tehre is both RAID and RAID_PLAER |
| 13:43.57 | nevcairiel | PLAYER* |
| 13:44.01 | nebula | so if you click on the target of someone in the raid targeting someone else in the raid, you'd get the full menu |
| 13:44.42 | nevcairiel | i think it does that anyway? only the pure raid frames dont work |
| 13:46.11 | nevcairiel | all the other checks seem fine |
| 13:47.02 | nebula | like if you have an raid header with the suffix target, you could have someone target themself and get the short menu for the raid unit and the full for the target, that seems silly |
| 13:48.17 | nevcairiel | party and raid should probably just be removed |
| 13:48.28 | nevcairiel | all the others are single units or non-player units |
| 13:53.54 | Repo | archy: 03Torhal 07master * 7.0.3.12 (2 files in 2 directories): [+4 commits] |
| 13:53.54 | Repo | 3445cb3: Add data for 7 more dig sites, courtesy of sidji. |
| 13:53.55 | Repo | 8b61110: Fix shadowed variable. |
| 13:53.55 | Repo | 856aecc: Cleanups for debug code. and use new LibTextDump-1.0 dateFormat option. |
| 13:53.55 | Repo | 8a85d91: Move commented do-block out of active do-block. |
| 13:54.16 | Repo | archy: 03Torhal 047.0.3.12 * de51d48 /: [new tag] |
| 14:06.34 | nevcairiel | why does shadowed have variables in your code Torhal? |
| 14:06.46 | Torhal | Heh |
| 14:06.46 | Kalroth | hacked |
| 14:07.30 | Torhal | I declared some function names outside of a do/end but accidentally made one local inside the do block. |
| 14:07.50 | nevcairiel | that would be unfortunate |
| 14:08.04 | Torhal | Indeed. |
| 14:08.38 | Repo | mrunes: 03HerrLiljegren 07master * 1.36-2-1-g4ed227e todo.txt: [+1 commit] Something is wrong with the tagging |
| 14:09.32 | Repo | mrunes: 03HerrLiljegren 041.36-3 * b27cb01 /: [new tag] Tagging error |
| 14:13.33 | Repo | mrunes: 03HerrLiljegren 07master * 1.36-3-1-gdec6acc todo.txt: [+1 commit] Somethings up with the tagging... |
| 14:14.42 | nebula | hey Torhal, i think something is wrong with tagging |
| 14:14.55 | Torhal | Howso? |
| 14:15.11 | nebula | you'll have to ask HerrLiljegren |
| 14:16.26 | Torhal | Oh |
| 14:16.28 | Torhal | Hah |
| 14:16.41 | Torhal | l2Git perhaps? |
| 14:17.25 | Megalon | git good |
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| 15:11.08 | Zeldo | Gnarfoz: I canât say anything but donât get your concerns up |
| 15:14.09 | Fisker | hey Zeldo |
| 15:26.36 | Zeldo | Hey baby |
| 15:27.52 | Fisker | oh my |
| 15:35.08 | Funkeh` | that escalated quickly |
| 15:36.43 | Fisker | Yeah |
| 15:36.45 | Megalon | woah |
| 15:36.51 | Megalon | when's the wedding? |
| 15:37.01 | Fisker | This Saturday |
| 15:39.03 | Megalon | oh my |
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| 16:46.52 | nevcairiel | torhal, Zeldo: guilding saying the latest version of this https://mods.curse.com/addons/wow/rclootcouncil isnt showing in old curse client (update yesterday), any sync issues? |
| 16:47.00 | nevcairiel | guildies* |
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| 16:57.29 | Repo | aed5049: Revert "Remove all of the custom UnitPopup handling, the default is fine" |
| 16:57.29 | Repo | 5277830: LuaTexts: Whitespace and other completely unnecessary changes |
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| 17:34.14 | Gnarfoz | Zeldo: was that re: Linux, next door? |
| 17:37.29 | znf | Gnarfoz: did it fix shit? |
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| 17:53.13 | EthanCentaurai | Good evening. o/ |
| 18:01.57 | Ressy | Good afternoon! |
| 18:02.46 | Fisker | Hey |
| 18:07.08 | Megalon | feliz navidad! |
| 18:07.34 | quiescens | o/ |
| 18:08.03 | Myrroddin | well, kris kringle to you too! |
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| 18:22.13 | Repo | tradeskill-info: 03EthanCentaurai 07master * v2.3.11-6-g88012af (2 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits] |
| 18:22.14 | Repo | 88012af: Use TRADE_SKILL_DATA_SOURCE_CHANGED event instead of TRADE_SKILL_SHOW. This way we handle profession change in trade UI window not only when it is opened but also when skill is changed without closing the window. |
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| 18:27.23 | Gnarfoz | znf: haven't heard any BRRTZT, yet, but qBT is being idle... it did happen even at 0 traffic before, but I'll wait until it's actually doing something before I make a happy dance |
| 18:32.22 | quiescens | is brrtzt a technical term? |
| 18:32.43 | Megalon | it's the MOST technical of terms |
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| 18:34.04 | Gnarfoz | quiescens: it is https://www.hddf.eu/audio/brrrrrrt.wav |
| 18:35.07 | quiescens | o.o |
| 18:39.03 | Repo | tidyplates_threat: 03iceeagle 07master * v1.6-6-gb529d55 (5 files in 2 directories): [+3 commits] |
| 18:39.03 | Repo | b529d55: use options db to set text shadow |
| 18:39.03 | Repo | 2911d4d: (ticket 15) fix raid mark icons |
| 18:39.03 | Repo | f9fc306: fix potential missing theme in TidyPlates when using AddonLoader |
| 18:40.55 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: it happened just from having the app running? |
| 18:41.15 | nevcairiel | build a new pc already =p |
| 18:41.37 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: maybe it was doing houskeeping-style traffic, tracker updates or such... who knows |
| 18:42.05 | nevcairiel | but thats so extremely minimal |
| 18:42.07 | Megalon | what's housekeeping-style traffic? when you bump into your roomba? |
| 18:42.10 | Gnarfoz | considering it happened quite a few times last night when it was doing something like 200 KiB/s of traffic... it's shouldn't really be an "too much to do" issue |
| 18:46.16 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: https://geizhals.de/?cat=WL-575161 |
| 18:50.25 | quiescens | start downloading something at random |
| 18:50.26 | quiescens | o.o |
| 18:50.46 | Megalon | 2 mobo but only one cpu |
| 18:50.59 | Megalon | weirdfoz |
| 18:51.07 | Gnarfoz | huh? oh |
| 18:51.16 | Gnarfoz | I guess I wasn't sure what to pick, there |
| 18:51.21 | nevcairiel | personally i'm liking my MSI board |
| 18:52.09 | znf | am I the only weirdo who wouldn't throw money on a K CPU? |
| 18:52.19 | Gnarfoz | probably |
| 18:54.18 | Megalon | :o |
| 18:55.11 | Fisker | Yeah I'd get an Intel CPU instead of a K one |
| 18:56.30 | Zeldo | Gnarfoz: In reference to points |
| 18:56.41 | Zeldo | Sorry, was in meetings |
| 19:00.23 | Gnarfoz | Zeldo: points? I don't recall... what did I ask? oO |
| 19:00.33 | Gnarfoz | (I'm not sure I asked anything! :D) |
| 19:01.15 | Gnarfoz | pfff, where's the BRRRRRZT when you want it... :D |
| 19:01.36 | Megalon | lol, now he wants the brrrrzt after complaining and asking how to get rid of it |
| 19:01.38 | Gnarfoz | also I haven't disabled any NICs, yet, just plugged the ethernet cable into the USB thing |
| 19:01.42 | Megalon | tsts... |
| 19:04.09 | Gnarfoz | I wonder what ACPI.sys did there for 1 ms |
| 19:04.24 | quiescens | sleep |
| 19:04.26 | quiescens | ^^ |
| 19:04.30 | Gnarfoz | (it's leading the pack with a 1.2ms DPC execution) |
| 19:05.05 | Gnarfoz | trouble is: after all is said and done, I fiddled with so many settings and things, I should really start over on a fresh install xD |
| 19:05.27 | Gnarfoz | who knows how many "oh, should change that back to the default afterwards" things I've missed by now ;) |
| 19:05.36 | EthanCentaurai | ~seen nebula |
| 19:05.41 | purl | nebula is currently on #wowuidev #wowace. Has said a total of 78 messages. Is idling for 30m 54s, last said: 'np'. |
| 19:05.42 | nebula | hi |
| 19:05.45 | EthanCentaurai | hi |
| 19:05.58 | EthanCentaurai | so, about that parrot |
| 19:06.10 | nebula | i saw both our forks were auto deleted, lol |
| 19:06.21 | nebula | i made https://wow.curseforge.com/addons/parrot2/ |
| 19:07.02 | EthanCentaurai | heh |
| 19:07.23 | Megalon | ain't no body got time to fork dat |
| 19:07.50 | EthanCentaurai | pls |
| 19:08.11 | EthanCentaurai | I wondered why Stanzilla deleted mine a second time :P |
| 19:08.46 | Gnarfoz | HERP DERP |
| 19:08.54 | nebula | i was talking to him and he restored it, even though i already said i had created one |
| 19:09.22 | Gnarfoz | I might or might not have forgotten that qBT binds to a network interface by name and of course this USB NIC doesn't have THAT NAME |
| 19:09.39 | EthanCentaurai | aye, I held off restoring mine in case you wanted Macaw back instead |
| 19:09.43 | Stanzilla | EthanCentaurai: yeah missunderstanding |
| 19:10.05 | Stanzilla | I blame nebula |
| 19:10.09 | Repo | repheaderremember: 03stencil * r38 (2 files in 1 directory): toc bump |
| 19:10.09 | Repo | set upvalues |
| 19:10.31 | Gnarfoz | 2016-08-17 21:10 - Couldn't load GeoIP database. Reason: Unsupported database file size. |
| 19:10.34 | Gnarfoz | o_o |
| 19:11.00 | Megalon | lol wut :D |
| 19:11.38 | nebula | http://i.imgur.com/H8ix0fI.jpg |
| 19:11.41 | nebula | yup, my fault |
| 19:12.05 | Stanzilla | leaks |
| 19:17.10 | Megalon | looks shopped |
| 19:17.28 | Repo | libsharedmedia-3-0: 03funkydude 047.0.3 * r96 : Tagging as 7.0.3 |
| 19:17.31 | Zeldo | 2:34:17 AM G<Gnarfoz> nevcairiel: I'd hope they realize the rewards program is part of what got Curse where it is today ^^ |
| 19:20.08 | Megalon | MAKING CURSE GREAT AGAIN |
| 19:21.10 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: I didn't realize you could change fritz.box to anything you like |
| 19:21.18 | Gnarfoz | and you can replace its certificate, too |
| 19:21.24 | nevcairiel | i knew cert |
| 19:21.25 | nevcairiel | didnt know domain |
| 19:21.48 | Gnarfoz | (although they're just asking for a cert... not for a key? hopefully just an UI issue and they expect a pem bundle or so) |
| 19:22.11 | Gnarfoz | oh. |
| 19:22.18 | Gnarfoz | those textboxes aren't editable xD |
| 19:22.27 | Gnarfoz | why are they there, then, I wonder |
| 19:22.36 | Gnarfoz | you can change the port it listens on |
| 19:22.55 | Gnarfoz | guess they update the textboxes, and they're textboxes so you can cleanly copy & paste it? |
| 19:23.05 | Repo | bank-stack: 03Kemayo 07master * v36-6-g846ead5 (2 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits] |
| 19:23.05 | Repo | 846ead5: Don't break on a familyless item |
| 19:23.05 | Repo | 1e9b1a2: Improve documentation in fill for my use |
| 19:23.41 | Gnarfoz | familyless? foreveralone.item |
| 19:27.21 | Repo | silver-dragon: 03Kemayo 07master * v3.2.5-1-ge1aa6df outputs/ldb.lua: [+1 commit] Make minimap icon option more obvious |
| 19:28.24 | Gnarfoz | Kemayo: did you make the minimap icon... great again? |
| 19:29.01 | Kemayo | Insofar as greatness comes from people not bugging me about how to hide it, if they don't have a broker display... |
| 19:29.26 | Kemayo | Honestly, I'm also not sure how someone was seeing an error for an item without a family, but... |
| 19:29.45 | Gnarfoz | perhaps they were an orphan! |
| 19:38.07 | Repo | shadowed-unit-frames: 03Nevcairiel 07master * v4.1.6-4-gfd1e0aa ShadowedUnitFrames.lua: [+1 commit] Purge empty text tags |
| 19:43.32 | quiescens | moo? |
| 19:49.29 | Gnarfoz | BRRRRZT :D |
| 19:49.36 | nevcairiel | with the usb toy? |
| 19:49.44 | Gnarfoz | ndis.sys, yeah |
| 19:50.07 | Gnarfoz | but I just plugged it in without doing any other things, I'll turn off the intel nic and give it a final try ;) |
| 20:14.03 | Gnarfoz | brrrt. |
| 20:14.04 | Gnarfoz | well. |
| 20:14.59 | nevcairiel | it did skip the z this time |
| 20:15.22 | Megalon | ! :D |
| 20:15.25 | Megalon | getting there |
| 20:15.33 | Gnarfoz | it's capricious like that |
| 20:16.54 | Repo | pitbull4: 03nebula169 07master * v4.0.3-15-g909bf83 (29 files in 7 directories): [+6 commits] (2 truncated) |
| 20:16.54 | Repo | 909bf83: Aura: Fix spell id |
| 20:16.54 | Repo | 0b1130c: Aura: Warlocks can dispel, not purge |
| 20:16.54 | Repo | 8bb845c: LuaTexts: Finish removing Demonic Fury and Eclipse |
| 20:16.54 | Repo | bea7384: Strip whitespace, I'm done with it. |
| 20:17.51 | Gnarfoz | guess I have an excuse to consider upgrading, even though I don't really need to from a performance PoV |
| 20:18.04 | Gnarfoz | (inb4 brrrt carries over onto new system) |
| 20:19.16 | Gnarfoz | whee |
| 20:19.33 | Gnarfoz | Backblaze sez: remaining files: 0 |
| 20:19.35 | nevcairiel | ~â¬500 or so isn't nothing, but its also not the end of the world |
| 20:19.51 | Gnarfoz | time to up the limit from 25 GB per file to unlimited per file |
| 20:20.08 | Gnarfoz | that should just be a few remuxes or so and then all is done |
| 20:20.20 | nevcairiel | i'm still not uploading huge media files |
| 20:20.44 | Gnarfoz | it's free, so at some point I said to myself: why not :D |
| 20:21.10 | wink | when did the wow icon begin to flash when you're in combat and alt-tabbed. |
| 20:21.15 | Repo | pitbull4: 03Stanzilla 07anchors * v4.0.0-beta56-580-g0d54842 (29 files in 7 directories): [+6 commits] (2 truncated) |
| 20:21.15 | Repo | 0d54842: Aura: Fix spell id |
| 20:21.15 | Repo | d2cad27: Aura: Warlocks can dispel, not purge |
| 20:21.15 | Repo | 89f8618: LuaTexts: Finish removing Demonic Fury and Eclipse |
| 20:21.15 | Repo | 50de568: Strip whitespace, I'm done with it. |
| 20:21.24 | nevcairiel | silly Stanzilla |
| 20:21.24 | wink | that kinda reverse-breaks my immersion :P |
| 20:21.32 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: what |
| 20:21.39 | nevcairiel | get rid of your personal branch already |
| 20:21.45 | Stanzilla | I wish I could |
| 20:21.49 | Stanzilla | nebula is cock blocking me |
| 20:22.08 | nebula | git tag -d anchors |
| 20:22.09 | nebula | done |
| 20:22.19 | Stanzilla | no |
| 20:22.20 | nebula | well, branch -D i guess |
| 20:22.49 | Stanzilla | how about you just merge it already :E |
| 20:32.30 | Megalon | merge with Stanzilla, nebula |
| 20:33.22 | nebula | i don't think the world could handle that |
| 20:34.26 | Stanzilla | we would be faboulus |
| 20:45.54 | Stanzilla | http://www.wowhead.com/news=255147/blizzard-at-gamescom-return-to-karazhan-patch-7-1 |
| 20:52.21 | nevcairiel | wtb vod of the q&a |
| 20:55.40 | Stanzilla | the quotes below |
| 20:55.44 | Stanzilla | are most of what he said |
| 20:55.51 | nevcairiel | i dont like reading transcripts |
| 20:56.26 | nebula | it's like three bullet points, there wasn't much a q&a with ion |
| 20:57.51 | Stanzilla | ^ |
| 20:57.58 | nebula | of a* |
| 21:16.39 | Gnarfoz | I wish the bnet app wouldn't constanly run 3 processes at low load |
| 21:17.31 | Gnarfoz | wtf is it doing... 2 "helpers" (read: Chrome) and a main one |
| 21:17.48 | znf | wait what |
| 21:17.51 | znf | return to kara? |
| 21:18.28 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 21:18.29 | Stanzilla | @Narull: What happens if you type "gg ez" on #Overwatch PTR. I love it. https://t.co/iH17o3f7Rr |
| 21:18.31 | Stanzilla | so good |
| 21:27.05 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: has your OCD not been upset by this pointless CPU usage? ^^ |
| 21:27.51 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: chrome always runs multiprocess now |
| 21:27.58 | Gnarfoz | hm? |
| 21:28.08 | Gnarfoz | when has Chrome been multiprocess in the last 5 years |
| 21:28.17 | nevcairiel | always? :) |
| 21:28.19 | Gnarfoz | you mean Firefox? |
| 21:28.29 | Gnarfoz | err, I mean when has it not been, i.e. why are you pointing that out |
| 21:28.40 | nevcairiel | because you wonder why there are multiple battle.net processes |
| 21:28.44 | nevcairiel | just needed for chromium |
| 21:28.58 | Gnarfoz | no, I wonder why all 3 of them are pretending to be doing things |
| 21:29.06 | Gnarfoz | even when minimized or minimized to tray |
| 21:29.08 | nevcairiel | thats just chromium again :D |
| 21:29.15 | Gnarfoz | it's the bnet.exe itself, too |
| 21:29.50 | Gnarfoz | about 5% across the 3 processes it consists of just by being open |
| 21:30.34 | Gnarfoz | drops a little bit if minimized, but not hugely. it probably realises it doesn't have a window to render shit for! :P |
| 21:31.24 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: nah, got used to it |
| 21:31.48 | Gnarfoz | it's not like I don't have the headroom for it, just... why |
| 21:32.32 | Gnarfoz | (also just increased the turbo steps from 38/39/40/40 to 40/41/42/42 while I was in UEFI... still quite disinclined to spend 500⬠on new crap when this is still going strong :p) |
| 21:32.47 | nevcairiel | but its going brrrrrrrt |
| 21:32.52 | Gnarfoz | that it is. |
| 21:32.52 | Stanzilla | I'm sitting at 99% ram all day every day |
| 21:33.02 | Gnarfoz | only unused ram is bad ram |
| 21:33.07 | nevcairiel | thats not healthy :p |
| 21:33.21 | nevcairiel | i dont think i ever had 90+% use |
| 21:33.35 | Stanzilla | 72% atm |
| 21:33.45 | Stanzilla | not running steam and clickerheroes though |
| 21:33.49 | Gnarfoz | work PC is struggling at 90% all day ususally |
| 21:33.50 | Stanzilla | so a few% missing |
| 21:33.58 | Gnarfoz | it only has 8 GiB, though :( |
| 21:34.00 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: you have 32gb though |
| 21:34.05 | Stanzilla | I only have 16 |
| 21:34.06 | nevcairiel | work PCs are usually underspec =p |
| 21:34.08 | nevcairiel | true |
| 21:34.27 | Stanzilla | or 15, forgot about ssd speed thingy |
| 21:34.28 | Gnarfoz | work PC is shiiiite. doesn't help that I actually have more Chrome tabs open there than at home right now |
| 21:34.43 | nevcairiel | i dont use the ssd speed shit |
| 21:34.51 | nevcairiel | it BSODed on me once, i not touch it again now |
| 21:35.02 | Gnarfoz | but it also likes making multi-second thinking pauses even when RAM is only at 60% |
| 21:35.04 | Stanzilla | cute :D |
| 21:35.31 | nevcairiel | i cant tolerate even the potential for a BSOD, first and foremost i like my system stable and reliable |
| 21:35.33 | Gnarfoz | I just didn't notice any difference from using it vs. not using it so I turned it off |
| 21:37.38 | Stanzilla | yeah I never had problems and enabled it right when I got it |
| 21:37.40 | Stanzilla | so it stayed on |
| 21:37.59 | Parnic | twitch buys curse and suddenly my amazon gift card redemptions aren't immediate anymore :P |
| 21:39.40 | znf | they're not immediate anymore? O.o |
| 21:40.08 | nebula | Parnic: it's because they went into anti-fraund mode |
| 21:40.15 | nebula | fraud, even |
| 21:40.23 | Parnic | sad fraud |
| 21:41.25 | znf | the fraud is in the fraud |
| 21:43.47 | Gnarfoz | btw, anyone need an usb3 1gbe adapter? :P |
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| 21:49.40 | Kemayo | ...my graphics card just died on me. Joy! |
| 21:52.44 | Kemayo | Poorly timed, since it looks like there's still quite the rush on the new 1060s. |
| 21:53.39 | nevcairiel | 1060s are in stock around here at least |
| 21:54.03 | nevcairiel | not that german shops would much help you |
| 21:58.12 | srge | http://www.nowinstock.net/computers/videocards/nvidia/gtx1060/ ain't that bad |
| 21:58.42 | nevcairiel | seems pretty limited |
| 21:59.02 | srge | just gotta check once in a while during the day |
| 21:59.29 | nevcairiel | or just pre-order and get it when it comes in, thats what I did with my 1080, waiting for it to get into stock means every other pre-order goes out before you =p |
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| 22:00.19 | nevcairiel | around here we have a whole lot of small PC hardware shops, not sure if t hose are even a thing in the US or you just buy from big things like amazon and newegg |
| 22:00.29 | Repo | pitbull4: 03Stanzilla 07anchors * v4.0.0-beta56-576-g273e8c8 Modules/Aura/Filter.lua: [+1 commit] Aura: Fix spell id |
| 22:02.43 | srge | small shops can't really compete with amazon and newegg in the US. they have too much overhead. plus the whole tax loophole if you order in a state that the big places don't have a presence in. |
| 22:02.59 | Gnarfoz | I thought they had closed that |
| 22:04.37 | srge | depends on your state i guess. I can order from newegg without tax. |
| 22:05.28 | Gnarfoz | but not from Amazon? |
| 22:06.10 | srge | nah they built a warehouse in florida a while ago |
| 22:06.32 | Gnarfoz | that seems... backward. |
| 22:06.37 | nevcairiel | must suck to go like "hey faster delivery" and "but uh, i pay taxes now" |
| 22:06.39 | nevcairiel | your system sucks =P |
| 22:06.42 | Kemayo | Well, now I'm waiting for https://jet.com/product/EVGA-GeForce-GTX-1080-8GB-FTW-GAMING-ACX-30-with-Adjustable-RGB-LED-Graphics-Car/434dde30f7644a9893e148ac20debde7 to show up. :P |
| 22:07.03 | Kemayo | ...I'm easily upsold, it seems. |
| 22:07.04 | srge | the delivery was never a problem with prime. 1-2 days. and they started sunday delivery here |
| 22:07.31 | nevcairiel | they started rolling out same day in my area |
| 22:07.32 | Kemayo | Actually, wrong link. https://jet.com/product/EVGA-08G-P4-6173-KR-GEFORCE-GTX-1070-ACX30-GAMING/5255bc33281a40f9a1438a8bcb401ee9 |
| 22:07.34 | nevcairiel | i should try it sometime |
| 22:07.37 | Kemayo | I'm not *that* easily upsold. |
| 22:08.35 | Gnarfoz | 459⬠hmm |
| 22:09.13 | Gnarfoz | actually cheaper here, for once. |
| 22:09.24 | nevcairiel | soon Gnarfoz shopping list will be â¬1000 |
| 22:09.56 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: unless he cheats and doesnt pay taxes |
| 22:09.58 | Gnarfoz | well what's the point of shopping if the only thing you gain is actually something you lose?! :D |
| 22:10.12 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: they advertise their prices w/o taxes, though, typically? |
| 22:10.16 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 22:10.29 | Gnarfoz | so I'd hope that's the price without taxes ^^ |
| 22:11.00 | nevcairiel | i would assume so |
| 22:11.03 | nevcairiel | US is confusing |
| 22:11.08 | Gnarfoz | indeed |
| 22:11.37 | srge | tip not included* |
| 22:11.45 | Gnarfoz | just the tip |
| 22:11.55 | Kemayo | Gnarfoz: It went down to â¬337, after creative coupon applications, too. |
| 22:12.00 | Gnarfoz | also, I was totally wrong just now |
| 22:12.11 | Gnarfoz | maybe I should have actually made and eaten dinner :P |
| 22:12.19 | Gnarfoz | of course it's tons more expensive here |
| 22:12.36 | Gnarfoz | "coupons" "mail-in rebates" etc are also such a US thing |
| 22:13.01 | Gnarfoz | (MAIL IN? why not send the cheque to pay for the item in the same envelope while you're at it! :D) |
| 22:13.11 | nevcairiel | actually the original $439 price is extremely close to the US price if you include VAT |
| 22:13.17 | nevcairiel | er pretty close to EU price |
| 22:13.33 | Gnarfoz | yeah well but, you never know what kind of taxes go on top of US prices |
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| 22:13.38 | Gnarfoz | 50 variations to pick from :D |
| 22:13.48 | nevcairiel | i just used 20% EU VAT for good measure <.< |
| 22:13.49 | srge | they don't expect everyone to claim the rebate. and even when you do follow directions and mail it right they can scam you |
| 22:13.53 | srge | i really hate rebates |
| 22:14.05 | Gnarfoz | but I think you're making the same mistake as I just did, nevcairiel |
| 22:14.10 | nevcairiel | how so |
| 22:14.51 | nevcairiel | 439 USD is 388 EUR, plus 20% tax thats 465 or so |
| 22:15.14 | *** join/#wowace Ketho (~Ketho@ip565063bd.direct-adsl.nl) |
| 22:15.38 | Gnarfoz | hmmm, yeah, maybe I wasn't wrong after all. I SHALL RETIRE TO THE SOFA. |
| 22:15.43 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 22:16.23 | srge | can you really return hardware to the shop in europe if it breaks within the warranty period? |
| 22:16.34 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 22:16.41 | srge | that's awesome |
| 22:16.53 | Gnarfoz | 459 eur -19% VAT, in USD is 435, so slightly below that advertised US price |
| 22:17.17 | Gnarfoz | (but no rebates, probably. :P also no discount for using debit cards .;D) |
| 22:17.21 | srge | 30 days or so and you're screwed here. have to deal with the manufacturer. usually a good idea to buy evga because of that alone |
| 22:17.48 | nevcairiel | we typically have 2 years on everything, the first year the shop has to pretty much accept any defective returns, in the second year it gets a bit more complicated but most shops just take it anyway |
| 22:19.34 | Gnarfoz | (after 6 months, they put the burden of proof that the failure you have was caused by a defect already in place at the time of sale on you. before that, it's the vendor who has to prove the opposite) |
| 22:20.08 | Gnarfoz | but particularly with electronics, that's not a particularly easy thing to do in either direction, so... yeah, they mostly suck it up |
| 22:20.35 | nevcairiel | oh right its 6 months not 1 year |
| 22:21.01 | nevcairiel | but yeah you can usually get a replacement within the 2 years |
| 22:21.22 | Gnarfoz | (not that I've had much stuff break in recent years... BRRRZT) |
| 22:22.27 | nevcairiel | i'm kinda disappointed in asus build quality in recent years so i switched away from their stuff, odd issues with bad component choices on high-end things dont make me happy |
| 22:23.58 | Gnarfoz | my BRRRRZT mainboard is from BRRRZT asus |
| 22:24.00 | Gnarfoz | :P |
| 22:24.33 | nevcairiel | really happy with the msi gpu and msi mainboard now, no issues, and the gpus design is just super quiet |
| 22:24.33 | Gnarfoz | "There was a period where the team focused on faster expansions, sacrificing things that they shouldn't have. This made the experience worse." -- no, really? :P and at the same time they didn't even manage to actually release the expansions any faster. double-fail :> |
| 22:24.50 | Gnarfoz | did you switch to an MSI 1080? |
| 22:24.51 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: he mentioned the second part as well |
| 22:24.55 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 22:25.00 | Gnarfoz | so many 1080s |
| 22:25.45 | Gnarfoz | get two more and you'll have a 2160 |
| 22:26.12 | nevcairiel | i only have one |
| 22:26.14 | Megalon | just 3 more generations |
| 22:26.22 | Megalon | and i can double my gtx up from my 660! |
| 22:29.18 | Gnarfoz | did they not deliver the asus? or you returned it |
| 22:30.48 | nevcairiel | it broke |
| 22:32.28 | nevcairiel | returned it for a refund and bought the MSI instead |
| 22:32.44 | nevcairiel | since its apparently a issue of build quality in some of the asus cards |
| 22:36.14 | nevcairiel | was a good decision too since the MSI is just so quiet even at full load, and I do like a quiet system |
| 22:36.43 | Stanzilla | still air cooling though, yeah? |
| 22:37.31 | Repo | pitbull4: 03Stanzilla 07anchors * v4.0.0-beta56-577-g45195d4 Main.lua: [+1 commit] Fix updating the minimap icon on profile change |
| 22:37.31 | Repo | dreadwhisperforinvite: 03Ketho 07master * v1.0 (3 files in 1 directory): [new, +1 commit] Initial release |
| 22:37.34 | Repo | pitbull4: 03Stanzilla 07anchors * v4.0.0-beta56-579-g5873005 Modules/ (3 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 22:37.36 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 22:37.36 | Repo | 5873005: LuaTexts: Finish removing Demonic Fury and Eclipse |
| 22:37.38 | Repo | 597b690: Aura: Warlocks can dispel, not purge |
| 22:37.44 | nevcairiel | ordinary gaming x, not one of those water block models |
| 22:37.51 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 22:37.52 | nevcairiel | the seahawk might be interesting though |
| 22:37.57 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 22:42.04 | Repo | mrunes: 03HerrLiljegren 07legion * 1.36-3-2-g3b221b0 (7 files in 2 directories): [+12 commits] (8 truncated) |
| 22:42.05 | Repo | 3b221b0: Sorting of runes, avalible runes will be shown to the left |
| 22:42.05 | Repo | dec6acc: Somethings up with the tagging... |
| 22:42.05 | Repo | 4ed227e: Something is wrong with the tagging |
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| 22:42.28 | Repo | mrunes: 03HerrLiljegren 07master * 1.36-3-2-g3b221b0 (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Sorting of runes, avalible runes will be shown to the left |
| 22:43.32 | Repo | mrunes: 03HerrLiljegren 041.37 * f30fb91 /: [new tag] Option to sort runes, avalible runes to the left |
| 22:47.19 | *** join/#wowace Ressy (Ressy@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/ARL/Ressy) |
| 22:53.06 | Repo | New addon: DreadWhisperForInvite - http://www.wowace.com/addons/dreadwhisperforinvite/ |
| 22:54.51 | nevcairiel | isnt that what auto-invite in the finder is for <.< |
| 22:55.29 | nevcairiel | and if people find out, they can just as well make an addon whisper you =p |
| 22:55.54 | Gnarfoz | sea hawk is the one with AiO water cooling? |
| 22:55.59 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 22:56.09 | Stanzilla | the corsair collab, yes |
| 22:56.45 | Gnarfoz | so it'll break in how many months? |
| 22:56.49 | Stanzilla | 3 years :D |
| 22:57.02 | Gnarfoz | :D I shouldn't shit talk them, my H-whatever (60? I CAN NEVER REMEMBER) is still going |
| 22:57.20 | Gnarfoz | possibly getting a big chunk of aluminum for bday soon, though |
| 22:57.59 | Repo | decursive: 03Archarodim 07master * 2.7.4.7-3-ga9c60fa Dcr_utils.lua: [+1 commit] Add support for CUSTOM_CLASS_COLORS |
| 22:58.06 | Stanzilla | going back to air? |
| 22:59.22 | Gnarfoz | yeah (although "back" is pushing it... I had the stock fan on it for a couple of days or so ^^) |
| 23:00.32 | Gnarfoz | I'm hoping it'll be less twitchy with the fan speed |
| 23:00.43 | Gnarfoz | I can basically hear turbo boost at work |
| 23:00.52 | Gnarfoz | (or well, cpu load) |
| 23:01.25 | Gnarfoz | I wonder if I should get a 1060... |
| 23:01.40 | nevcairiel | it might still twitch, but normal fans arent just that loud, the radiator fans usually are a bit more annoying |
| 23:02.46 | Gnarfoz | feels kind of pointless to get a 1060 when I have a 780 |
| 23:03.14 | Gnarfoz | (although Overwatch maxes that out even at 1200p and not max details) |
| 23:03.35 | nevcairiel | http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1718?vs=1771 |
| 23:03.47 | Gnarfoz | I'm fine with not max details... but the reference fan thing is idiotically loud at that RPM |
| 23:03.51 | nevcairiel | its faster, but worth the upgrade? |
| 23:04.29 | Gnarfoz | yeah... it's still not a "cheap" thing to buy :D |
| 23:04.50 | nevcairiel | if you really wanted more speed, a 1070 might be nice, but thats in expensive territory |
| 23:04.58 | Gnarfoz | also 1060 vs. rx480 which has 2 GB more VRAM -- but I'm not really in the mood for AMD :D |
| 23:05.26 | nevcairiel | 480 is slower |
| 23:05.43 | nevcairiel | and if you dont plan to go 1440p or evne higher the 6gb are probably fine |
| 23:06.06 | Gnarfoz | there's always the "what if I change my mind in a year" factor :D |
| 23:06.17 | Ketho | nevcairiel: I'm hoping ppl won't make an addon to auto whisper instead of auto sign up, but probably nobody will use this addon anyway ... |
| 23:06.45 | Gnarfoz | I might even try playing something on the UHD TV... there's no point to trying that now because Kepler doesn't do 4K@60 Hz |
| 23:07.18 | nevcairiel | in 4:2:0! |
| 23:07.23 | nevcairiel | makes the games look oh so fancy |
| 23:08.30 | Gnarfoz | the newer ones do 4K / 60 / 4:2:2 though, right? |
| 23:08.37 | Gnarfoz | (or even 4:4:4?) |
| 23:08.57 | nevcairiel | 4k@60 8-bit 444 yes |
| 23:09.06 | nevcairiel | 422 if you want 10-bit |
| 23:09.09 | nevcairiel | for say video playback |
| 23:09.09 | Gnarfoz | was worried there for a minute |
| 23:09.30 | nevcairiel | but thats HDMI 2.0 being silly and not having enough bandwidth |
| 23:09.36 | Gnarfoz | I don't think the panel in my TV is good enough to care about 10 bit xD |
| 23:09.51 | nevcairiel | its really only important if you want HDR |
| 23:09.58 | nevcairiel | which is still a long way on PCs |
| 23:10.34 | nevcairiel | WDDM 2.1 added HDR support, so potentially games could use it eventually |
| 23:10.35 | Gnarfoz | (and even on video... there's been 0 releases so far that acually are HDR, right?) |
| 23:10.52 | nevcairiel | i dont really follow UHD BD releases since its not available on PC yet |
| 23:10.54 | Gnarfoz | Revenant had an Ultra HD BD release, but it's only graded differently? |
| 23:11.15 | nevcairiel | but most UHD BDs are probably just 4K, not HDR |
| 23:11.17 | Gnarfoz | something like that... of course the pixel peepers on my bt tracker have been splitting subpixels about that for a while |
| 23:12.02 | Gnarfoz | hmmm 1060 is quite a bit faster than 780... coupled with a 3rd party cooler instead of nvidia's, that might end up being quite quiet |
| 23:12.13 | nevcairiel | indeed |
| 23:12.24 | nevcairiel | after 3 generations of reference blowers, a quiet custom cooler is really nice |
| 23:12.40 | Gnarfoz | (and considering replacing this mainboard with something else would free up the components I need to build that NAS finally... would mean -9 HDDs in this midi tower. :D) |
| 23:13.12 | nevcairiel | i should reconsider the option to let the HDDs in my NAS-PC spin down, would probably cut down on a lot of the nosie it emits |
| 23:14.25 | Gnarfoz | I have mine set to spin down |
| 23:14.39 | nevcairiel | i hate to wait for them to come back up <.< |
| 23:14.46 | Gnarfoz | yep |
| 23:14.56 | Gnarfoz | I'd be happy to get rid of that, too. :D |
| 23:15.03 | Megalon | build your nas with ssd's |
| 23:15.09 | Megalon | problem solved 8) |
| 23:15.16 | nevcairiel | but having 20 HDDs always spinning is quite noisy, or so i found out |
| 23:15.19 | nevcairiel | i always though its the fans |
| 23:15.30 | nevcairiel | but when building the current nas-pc, i did some experiments |
| 23:15.39 | nevcairiel | and its in fact the spinning disks |
| 23:15.52 | Gnarfoz | Megalon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0qtu5NXhuQ |
| 23:16.40 | nevcairiel | multiple SSDs? "The unnamed SAS SSD packs 60TB of 3D TLC into a 3.5" drive." |
| 23:16.45 | Megalon | i follow linus too *foz :P |
| 23:17.05 | Gnarfoz | vote for turnip, then |
| 23:17.45 | Gnarfoz | even my 9 disks are quite noisy in total, even though they're on rubber... thingies (which admittedly are quite flimsy, they're just what Fractal includes). but the case's HDD trays are also flimsy... and I didn't pick particularly quiet HDDs. |
| 23:17.57 | Gnarfoz | are yours 7200 or 5400, nevcairiel? |
| 23:18.04 | nevcairiel | "smart" |
| 23:18.08 | nevcairiel | which probably means 5400 |
| 23:18.50 | Gnarfoz | yeah... I think mine was a noticeable bit quieter when I still had almost all WD greens |
| 23:19.05 | nevcairiel | mine are mostly reds now with a few greens |
| 23:19.30 | Gnarfoz | now it's all 7200 hitachi/toshiba except for 1 remaining WD (which isn't currently in use) |
| 23:20.38 | Gnarfoz | I just realized, I'd have to buy a GPU for the server, haha |
| 23:20.58 | Gnarfoz | my board is a p67, it can't use the sandy bridge iGPU |
| 23:21.44 | Gnarfoz | I could use my 8800 GTX |
| 23:22.27 | Gnarfoz | it can have a fight with the HDDs for who's loudest |
| 23:22.34 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 23:23.44 | Gnarfoz | wow, 1070 is almost double the 780's performance in many of the bench tests |
| 23:24.26 | Gnarfoz | 2 generations and suddenly the model "one down" is double the perfomance :D |
| 23:24.45 | Gnarfoz | can't we have someting like that for CPUs? :P |
| 23:25.12 | nevcairiel | pascal was really quite the exception here, the 1070 is like still beating the titan x |
| 23:25.25 | Gnarfoz | are there mainboards that accommodate 2 or even 3 slot GPUs by not putting pcie x1 slots there that I might actually want to use? |
| 23:25.36 | nevcairiel | there is always some kind of slot there |
| 23:25.44 | Gnarfoz | well, x86 is kind of ready for such an exception |
| 23:26.07 | nevcairiel | you'll just have to figure out how many slots you really want to use |
| 23:26.16 | Gnarfoz | unless you can make use of more cores, anything past sandy bridge has been very meh ^^ |
| 23:26.39 | Gnarfoz | wtb consumer board that supports LRDIMMs |
| 23:26.41 | nevcairiel | well from sandy to skylake, the generational improvements did accumulate to quite a bit |
| 23:26.56 | Gnarfoz | true, but I still just don't need them xD |
| 23:27.19 | Gnarfoz | I guess they would allow me to use x264 for streaming instead of nvenc ;) |
| 23:27.42 | Gnarfoz | (although that's a perfecet example of "more cores would solve that, too") |
| 23:28.03 | nevcairiel | can only hope amd manages to build a high-end CPU again to give intel something to work for .... but, so far it doesnt seem like that will be the case |
| 23:28.07 | Gnarfoz | bought the wrong RAM for a server, now we're sitting on 256 GB DDR4 LRDIMMs |
| 23:28.58 | nevcairiel | best-case estimates say Zen will maybe reach broadwell performance levels, but at the time of its release thats already 2 generations behind intel again |
| 23:29.34 | Gnarfoz | when is it due? |
| 23:29.44 | nevcairiel | h1 2017 or so |
| 23:29.47 | Gnarfoz | I mean it's not even been demo'd yet, let alone released |
| 23:30.25 | nevcairiel | some optimistic rumors put it even into q4 2016, but i dont see that happening |
| 23:30.36 | Gnarfoz | I guess AMD can consider themselves lucky that Intel seems to have finally hit a wall with manufacturing sizes |
| 23:30.47 | nevcairiel | slowed down at least |
| 23:30.52 | nevcairiel | 10nm still coming next year |
| 23:31.07 | Gnarfoz | I thought they had recently said they're going to stretch this node even further? |
| 23:31.34 | nevcairiel | they have |
| 23:31.47 | nevcairiel | it was supposed to be out this year |
| 23:32.40 | Gnarfoz | hmmm maybe I just dreamed that, I thought they had put an additional one somewhere in there (i.e. skylake, kaby, cannon + X) |
| 23:32.54 | nevcairiel | kaby is the additional one |
| 23:33.09 | nevcairiel | CNL was delayed |
| 23:33.18 | nevcairiel | (cannonlake) |
| 23:33.35 | nevcairiel | kaby will still be on 14nm |
| 23:33.48 | nevcairiel | but CNL should launch next year as well, although late in the year |
| 23:34.01 | Stanzilla | anything else new in kaby? |
| 23:34.18 | nevcairiel | mostly GPU and media shit, nothing worth mentioning |
| 23:34.35 | nevcairiel | the platform gets usb 3.1 gen2 |
| 23:34.40 | Stanzilla | so probably the worst gen to pick to upgrade? |
| 23:34.57 | nevcairiel | not that different to any before |
| 23:35.26 | nevcairiel | skylake also didnt offer much new interesting things |
| 23:35.27 | Gnarfoz | it's all just minor moves |
| 23:35.44 | nevcairiel | CNL is the first to offer new things again, but how much that makes a difference |
| 23:36.11 | Stanzilla | whats new there |
| 23:36.59 | nevcairiel | its 10nm at least, which could bump up performance |
| 23:37.21 | nevcairiel | the one after that, ice lake, is the new microarchitecture, but thats like 2018 |
| 23:38.22 | Stanzilla | meh |
| 23:38.37 | Gnarfoz | is there really much point in getting a 6700K vs. a 6600K? |
| 23:38.58 | nevcairiel | personally i like hyperthreading, but mine isnt a puire gaming system |
| 23:39.02 | Gnarfoz | they're 100⬠apart, but considering it's K, I should easily be able to make up the difference |
| 23:39.03 | nevcairiel | for gaming, probably not |
| 23:39.05 | Gnarfoz | oooh |
| 23:39.10 | Gnarfoz | 6600 is i5 |
| 23:39.12 | Gnarfoz | bleh |
| 23:39.36 | Gnarfoz | nah, I like HT as well |
| 23:39.55 | Gnarfoz | and 6700 vs 6700K is ~25⬠|
| 23:40.23 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla: rumors have it that CNL will also bring more cores to mainstream |
| 23:40.48 | nevcairiel | but ~rumors~ |
| 23:40.53 | Gnarfoz | call Adele |
| 23:40.55 | Stanzilla | cnl was late 2017, right? |
| 23:40.59 | nevcairiel | probably |
| 23:41.11 | Stanzilla | mkay |
| 23:42.47 | nevcairiel | AMD Zen is supposedly launching with up to 8 cores, so maybe Intel wants to follow in the mainstream market |
| 23:42.59 | nevcairiel | but who knows if AMD is even doing that |
| 23:46.27 | Gnarfoz | or if AMD even still exists by then |
| 23:46.35 | Gnarfoz | ^^ |
| 23:46.47 | Megalon | :D |
| 23:47.03 | nevcairiel | its not like I'm a fan of AMD, but competition is always a good thing |
| 23:47.11 | nevcairiel | so dont die! |
| 23:47.20 | Gnarfoz | yeah, for sure |
| 23:47.37 | Gnarfoz | they've not been too great at it this last... long while |
| 23:49.01 | Gnarfoz | interesting, 16 GB DDR4 modules are basically the same price as 8 GB DDR4 modules, per GB |
| 23:49.10 | Gnarfoz | no point in buying 8 GB modules, then |
| 23:49.26 | nevcairiel | if your board does 16gb modules |
| 23:49.35 | nevcairiel | not all do |
| 23:49.39 | Gnarfoz | why would my board care, the memory controller is in the cpu? |
| 23:49.41 | Megalon | does *foz's 16gb modules |
| 23:49.59 | nevcairiel | dont ask me, board makers publish memory compat lists =p |
| 23:50.02 | Gnarfoz | ^^ |
| 23:50.22 | Ressy | Usually, its cuz some RAM provides too much voltage, or not enough. |
| 23:50.33 | Gnarfoz | RAM doesn't provide voltage |
| 23:50.45 | Ressy | bah. You kow what I mean. |
| 23:50.50 | Gnarfoz | (and the voltage they require doesn't vary with module size) |
| 23:50.52 | Megalon | oh so ram is like a battery! |
| 23:50.53 | Ressy | my brain is fried this week. |
| 23:51.00 | Gnarfoz | replace it with RAM! |
| 23:51.08 | Megalon | fried brains mmmmm |
| 23:51.27 | Gnarfoz | anyway, if the mainboard didn't have a say in the matter, I'd have just swapped all the existing LRDIMM modules in that server to one CPU and put the new RDIMMs on the other CPU ^^ |
| 23:51.40 | Ressy | My grampa died Sunday, I've barely slept since, visitation is tomorrow, funeral is friday. yay. |
| 23:51.54 | Gnarfoz | I might still try that just for kicks, but I'm pretty sure it'll just yell "MIXED MEMORY CONFIGURATION" at me again |
| 23:52.06 | Gnarfoz | Ressy: condolences |
| 23:52.15 | Ressy | thx |
| 23:52.46 | Repo | bigwigs_achievements: 03Stanzilla 07master * v0.4-1-ga8fcbf0 (2 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits] |
| 23:52.46 | Repo | a8fcbf0: remove pre-legion compat |
| 23:52.46 | Repo | 35548a1: Update TOC to 70000 |
| 23:52.50 | Stanzilla | Ressy: my condolences :( |
| 23:53.02 | Gnarfoz | I wonder how it came to be that we ordered this one server with LRDIMMs and all other ones with RDIMMs~ |
| 23:53.52 | Gnarfoz | also re: memory controller is in the CPU: Skylake's memory controller supports up to DDR4-2133... why again is it that DDR4-2400 would still grant me a performance benefit? |
| 23:53.56 | Megalon | probably a tpye somewhere :P |
| 23:54.12 | Megalon | damn typoes! |
| 23:54.47 | Gnarfoz | Megalon: yeah, on Dell's product list... they describe the modules as "LEAD REDUCED". while I'm sure they used lead-free solder on them (RoHS requires that anyway), I'm sure they atually meant "LOAD REDUCED" (which the LR in LRDIMM stands for) |
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| 23:55.08 | Ressy | lol |
| 23:56.45 | Gnarfoz | ...that's just a cop-out, though, my colleague just didn't check properly. that typo is in the detail description, the list entry itself clearly says LRDIMM. and smartypants me verified his choice of module by verifying it's compatible with the intended server. Which it is. Just not in combination with the existing RAM of a different type. |
| 23:56.49 | Gnarfoz | derp~ |
| 23:56.59 | Gnarfoz | at least it's DDR4, so we'll get to use it sooner or later |
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