IRC log for #wowace on 20160706

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01:50.09Stanzillakyle
01:50.11StanzillaI see you
01:53.18Stanzillanebula: what do you think of the heroes patch
01:56.22nebulapatch 19, rise of the winions
01:56.36nebulaor 18.7 i guess
01:58.05nebulajaina still needs more love, imo, not sure how i feel about kerrigan, tyrael is whatever, zag should be good
01:58.50Stanzillait's 19 yeah :D
01:59.45StanzillaI'm more excited about the non balance changes though
02:00.21Stanzillalike the dehaka and sonya changes thouh
02:00.23nebulachange they snuck into the bug fixes: nova clones attack objective mobs!
02:00.35nebulaand minions if you take lethal
02:00.48Stanzillathat's a nice fix actually
02:01.31nebulayea, don't take snipe master that often, but makes it so you're able to help with that shit
02:02.05StanzillaI thought you only play support or tank
02:04.28nebulalike nova ever gets play competitively
02:04.31nebulaplayed*
02:05.45StanzillaI need to play more again
02:05.49Stanzillabut mates all cba
02:06.01nebulai haven't played much, still diamond 3
02:06.43Stanzillabaddie
02:07.21nebulapretty much
02:07.56Stanzillanot sure I want to get guldan right at release
02:07.59Stanzillalooked boring
02:08.40nebularain of chaos looks like shit
02:09.19Stanzillayeah
02:09.19nebulameta is still pretty bursty so he probably won't get much love regardless
02:09.23Stanzillaznf: build likely now
02:10.15Stanzillanebula: i recently had a talk with a friend who's main point of critique was that heroes is too bursty
02:10.55nebulanot really, na plays burst comps, but take away kael, and eu/kr don't
02:14.53quiescensmoo?
02:24.19Stanzillanebula: well it was his opinion
02:24.33nebulayea, i mean, what's his comparison? dota?
02:24.34StanzillaI think i just said yeah ok
02:24.37Stanzillano idea
02:24.43StanzillaLoL I think
02:26.32nebulanever really played lol, but i always thought hots was closer to it than dota
02:30.19Stanzilladota was way too clunky for me
02:30.53nebulafarm farm farm, farm farm farm
02:31.10Stanzillathe shop system is horrible
02:32.27Stanzillacan the eu wow servers please come up again, I need something to do
02:33.21AiueYou could wash my dishes?
02:33.37nebulai have some laundry that needs to get done, too
02:35.18AiueOh yeah, me too.
02:35.36quiescensgo to sleep
02:40.46Aiuegives quiescens to a cookie.
02:43.39Stanzilla:E
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02:47.59Aiuegives quiescens a wookie.
03:33.38znfdamn it Stanzilla
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06:26.13AiueHm.
06:26.36AiueI think I just managed to crash the game client by passing flags to SetFont().
06:26.45AiueI'll leave that one alone for now..
06:27.06quiescensyou broked it
06:27.46pompy1reported
06:31.16nebulaAiue: was it mono? remember that causing problems
06:31.37AiueIt was all the flags. Which includes mono. :p
06:32.23nebulamadness
06:32.29Semlardon't the flags contradict each other
06:32.56nebuladon't judge the thick thin font
06:32.58AiueDunno. It's supposedly possible to have more than one flag set. And I needed to make sure exactly what the return format would be like.
06:33.27nebulai know monochrome use to cause issues with anything else
06:33.39nebulaand does seem odd to set outline and thickoutline
06:48.03AiueHmm.
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06:48.24AiueEither I screwed up somehow, or setting thickoutline will set outline as well.
06:51.14Semlarhow could you possibly tell
06:51.28quiescenso.o
06:52.08AiueBecause the box for outline got ticked when I ticked thickoutline. And did not get unticked when I unticked thickoutline.
06:53.08Semlarare you just pattern matching the word "outline"
06:53.13AiueNope.
06:53.21AiueI guess I should've mentioned that. :P
06:53.25AiueSplitting and iterating.
06:53.58AiueFonts are weird.
06:58.27TorhalTIL Semlar may be a font.
06:58.39Aiuehttp://www.wowace.com/paste/15350/ for reference.
06:58.46Semlargirl you thicker than a bowl of outlines
06:58.57Torhal...WAT
06:59.02Semlaryou heard me
06:59.32TorhalNow I'm wondering what happened to the indentation for that paste. I can't tell what's going on.
07:00.51AiueYeah, it does look a bit odd. I was going to explain it with emacs sometimes using tabs for indentation, and sometimes spaces, depending on indentation level, but .. that does not seem to be enough to explain this.
07:01.12TorhalIt's like, negatively indented for the if blocks.
07:01.26TorhalWeird.
07:02.08Semlaranyway, setting thickoutline sets outline
07:02.26Torhaldecomissions Semlar's lines.
07:02.33quiescensnegative indentation sounds like a fun coding style
07:03.05TorhalOr a guild name.
07:03.55Aiuenegatively indents chromosome fonts.
07:04.11AiueAnd no, I'm actually not even sure what I'm saying any longer.
07:05.39nebula-- "MONOCHROME", XXX monochrome only is disabled for now as it causes a client crash
07:05.44nebulaopposite of what i thought
07:07.33AiueHm. Could be that I used the wrong format when passing the arguments, resulting in setting only monochrome.
07:07.58AiueIn fact, I'm fairly sure of it now.
07:08.51Aiue"Comma separated list? Ok, so vararg!". Which isn't how SetFont works.
07:24.00quiescenso.o
07:24.12Torhalincreases quiescens' difficulty.
07:24.35quiescens!
07:38.55Aiuegives quiescens another wookie.
07:39.04quiescens\o/
07:40.26Torhalgives quiescens some Mutagenic Ichor.
07:40.39quiescens):
07:51.11Aiuegives a wookie a cookie.
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17:24.46Funkeh`https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/nvidia-updates-geforce-experience-accounts-and-passwords-now-mandatory.html
17:24.48Funkeh`rofl
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17:25.19Funkeh`another reason not to install that little "bonus"
17:26.50FiskerWhy mad Funkeh` ?
17:27.05FiskerAt least they don't need q webserver to click buttons anymore
17:29.26StanzillaGnarfoz nevcairiel ftp://ftp.avm.de/fritz.box/fritzbox.7490/firmware/deutsch/info.txt
17:29.43nevcairieli saw, but i dont have a 7490 :p
17:29.49Stanzillaoh ok
17:30.53Gnarfozneither do I, but thanks anyway =D
17:31.01nevcairielhey the foz is alive
17:31.05GnarfozI is
17:31.13nevcairielbeen busy?
17:31.29GnarfozHannover, Berlin, Hamburg, back home
17:31.40Gnarfozlast ~1,5 weeks
17:31.49nevcairielnice round trip
17:32.27Gnarfozis there a way to permanently get rid of this http://i.imgur.com/nMvVPpv.png :|
17:32.47nevcairielalways doesnt stick, i take it?
17:33.20GnarfozI think it reappears every time Chrome major version changes
17:33.23FiskerThink it pops up each time it finds that you have a new app to do it
17:33.24Gnarfozwhich is every 3 days or so
17:33.35FiskerEvery 6 weeks though Gnarfoz
17:33.41Gnarfozfeels more often
17:33.47FiskerHaven't seen it with chrome I think
17:33.53Gnarfozwell, it certainly updates more often, but not major versions ^^
17:34.00nevcairielbut yeah microsofts attempts at blocking apps from stealing file assignments is really annoying for power users
17:34.19Gnarfozthe one trying to steal is MS :D
17:34.19FiskerOnly time I've seen it update is after windows updates because they like setting it to edge
17:34.21FiskerOr they did
17:34.38Gnarfozit has never set it to something other than what I had set, it just makes the popup reappear
17:34.57FiskerStill made the pop-up appear but yeah
17:35.04nevcairieldont think i've had it popup for URL handlers though
17:35.07nevcairielonly for files
17:36.30Stanzillanexus images
17:37.24nevcairielanyone else have large performance drops from ultra water in the legion beta in some areas? switching to good water gives like 30 fps with only loss of some reflections in the water
17:38.13FiskerN or July Stanzilla ?
17:38.20Stanzillajul<
17:38.20Stanzillay
17:38.27Gnarfozah, the joy of paying the mandatory TV fee...
17:38.33FiskerFuck you
17:38.39FiskerI mean I love you
17:38.53nevcairielGnarfoz: i read today that DVB-T2 gets encryption and a fee next year
17:39.10nevcairielor well at least HD
17:39.23Stanzillahttps://source.android.com/security/bulletin/2016-07-01.html
17:41.02FiskerThe fuck with the Qualcomm one with like a billion cves
17:44.12FiskerI want new N preview though Stanzilla
17:44.27Gnarfoznevcairiel: just like HD+ on Cable/Sat, "freetv" in HD is going to cost money
17:45.04Gnarfozand they've only agreed to broadcast in SD until like 2020 so far, so maybe after that, their junk TV will only be available for money
17:45.32nevcairielnot that i particularly care myself
17:47.21Gnarfozyeah, good riddance
17:55.42GnarfozNEU - Bei aktivem VDSL Vectoring kann nun der Impulsstörschutz (G.INP) gleichzeitig mit einer unterbrechungsfreien Anpassung der Verbindungsgeschwindigkeit (SRA) genutzt werden
17:55.48Gnarfozthat sounds good
17:56.10nevcairielisnt that in 6.5 already
17:58.46nevcairielhad a telekom tech guy here on saturday, he re-seated my cable in the box on the street because it apparently wasnt all the way in, gave me 2dB higher SNR, hopefully the random disconnects are no longer
18:08.21Gnarfozyeah, that was from 6.50, I wasn't sure which version I was on
18:09.33GnarfozTechniker ist informiert? ^^
18:09.57GnarfozI recently caught my connection synchronizing at something like 67 Mbit/s, not sure what that was all about
18:12.46quiescensgo to sleep o.o
18:13.20quiescensgives Gnarfoz a cookie
18:21.11nevcairielGnarfoz: so was it actually faster then?
18:21.21nevcairielor wait, youi should have 100 dont you
18:22.26quiescenshax
18:22.52FiskerYes Stanzilla
18:22.53FiskerYes
18:22.55Fiskerhttp://www.androidpolice.com/2016/07/06/exclusive-google-is-building-two-android-wear-smartwatches-with-google-assistant-integration/
18:24.37Stanzillasmartwatches still uninteresting
18:24.40Stanzillastill too thick
18:26.13FiskerNo fucks given Stanzilla
18:26.37quiescensi don't get the watch thing ):
18:27.00quiescenseveryone was so happy to get rid of their watches once they had their fancy phones
18:28.15FiskerSmartwatches aren't used for only telling the time
18:29.45Stanzillawhen you dont give a fuck about my opinion
18:29.51Stanzillawhy do you even link it to me then
18:30.41Gnarfoznevcairiel: yeah, it was slower than regular
18:31.13FiskerBecause it's out of scope Stanzilla
18:32.46Stanzillaok
18:34.06quiescenso.o
18:34.35FiskerSoup?
18:37.12Megalonsoup de grâce
18:38.52Gnarfozyum
18:40.00Gnarfozhm, did they change the style of the level numbers again in OW?
18:42.21Stanzillano but you might be seing ranked play numbers
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18:44.38Gnarfozhm, definitely not the same style as before ^^
18:46.47Stanzillascreenshotß
18:51.01GnarfozStanzilla: http://imgur.com/a/sIe0v
18:51.10Gnarfozbefore/after
18:54.15MegalonZoinks! You've taken a wrong turn.
18:54.24Gnarfozmeh, albums default to secret
18:55.39Gnarfozfixed
18:58.01FiskerThat was last patch though right?
18:59.39nevcairielGnarfoz: album still ded
19:00.13Gnarfozold http://i.imgur.com/cKILuJh.jpg new http://i.imgur.com/lSRj8pJ.jpg
19:00.30Gnarfozand "new" is of course skewed a bit for me, since I wasn't home for 10 days :p
19:00.48Gnarfozprobably the competitive patch
19:01.08StanzillaGnarfoz: ah ok
19:01.13StanzillaI dont play at all
19:01.18Stanzillaso I just figured it was the ranked numbers
19:03.12Stanzillahttp://www.androidpolice.com/2016/07/06/google-announces-text-translation-content-discovery-barcode-scanning-google-now-tap/
19:03.14Stanzillarip google goggles
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19:17.19StanzillaFunkeh`: http://i.imgur.com/Ou2XkcO.png block plx
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20:17.38znfStanzilla, where's this Kesava individual? :(
20:17.58Kesavahm yes what
20:19.32znfKesava, disco nameplates
20:19.43Kesava<PROTECTED>
20:19.48znfnot fixing
20:21.00znfalready tried it in the morning :P
20:22.16Kesavaoh, this was mentioned in #wowuidev
20:22.20Semlarthey removed the cvar
20:22.29Kesavaapparently a blizzard person i assume (thedanw?) will be looking into that
20:22.34Kesavayes
20:22.45znfit makes my char /dance
20:23.00Kesavastill don't want to just parent to the frame because of the shrinking and fading stuff.
20:23.28Kesavabut i could temporarily revert to the old 1-frame-behind positioning i suppose
20:23.29Semlarhe said it shouldn't do that so it'll probably be fixed if it hasn't already
20:23.34Kesavayeah
20:24.02Kesavaoh, or just remove the hide of course. and have it be really low fps.
20:24.18Kesavauntil ~next build~
20:24.23znfoh, client side build
20:24.39znf(just got it)
20:27.32znfstill flickering
20:28.35Kesavawell yeah i wouldn't expect a change like that to be pushed that quickly
20:30.08Kesavajust pushed one with that disabled
20:33.00znfcool
20:33.04znfno more disco
20:38.53nevcairielKesava: cant you anchor to it without parenting to it? you move with it but dont inherit scale or alpha?
20:39.15Kesavanoon
20:39.17Kesavanon*
20:39.24nevcairielwhy no
20:39.59Kesavacurrently overwatching
20:40.01Kesavabut there is a reason
20:40.04Kesavaof some sort
20:41.15Kesavaoh, i mean, that's already what i do
20:41.27nevcairielno you dont, you use semalrs move trick
20:44.54Kesavai'll have you know i was doing something very similar to this well before i knew semlar existed
20:45.01Kesavait just.. wasn't using the sizer/onsizechanged thing
20:45.10nevcairielit says semlars trick in the code o.o
20:45.18Kesavayeah that's the sizer thing
20:45.28Semlaryou weren't hiding it, which is what made the fps difference
20:45.33Kesavaand that
20:45.48Semlaryou were positioning it so you could do pixel perfect stuff
20:48.06Semlarwhy is it so hot, it's like a hundred degrees outside
20:49.12Semlari did some work in the yard earlier and that was a horrible idea
20:49.24Semlari'm just going to stay inside until winter
20:54.54Kesavaright, nevcairiel, i can't do that because that breaks pixel-perfectness which is already broken on higher resolutions or with uiscale
20:54.57KesavaBUT you get the point
20:55.05Kesavanameplates get set to half-pixels etc
20:55.28Kesavaso i can't just setallpoints to them if that's what you mean, so i just get their positions and floor them. same effect though.
20:56.20Kesavathough i think i used to have to adjust their positions because the worldframe is a different scale or something
20:56.26Kesavaand ugh
20:57.57Kesavai first did this back in cataclysm
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21:01.14KesavaAND i did it before zork. so ner.
21:01.19Kesavai just didn't post it on the forums.
21:01.25Kesavai win
21:02.23Semlargently pats kesava
21:05.46znfif it weren't for Kesava, I'd still be using tidyplates!
21:53.00Megalonoh lol that appearance changes bearform
21:53.02Megalonthat's nice
21:53.08Megaloni now got boneybear
21:53.12nevcairielhm?
21:53.32nevcairielyour oomkin weapon changed the bear form?
21:53.52Megalonno
21:53.57Megalonwould be awesome
21:54.05Megalonhave to be bearspecced to have it active :(
21:54.18nevcairieloh you got the item from ursoc lfr?
21:54.24Megalonnormal
21:54.26Megalonyea
21:54.27nevcairielwell same thing
21:54.30nevcairieldrops in lfr too
21:54.30znfhe be doin' normal
21:54.34Megalonso that's a hidden appearance
21:54.34znfand he didn't invite me :(
21:54.50Megalonand the others things unlock using your hidden appearance
21:55.02nevcairielindeed
21:55.11Megalonlooks nice
21:55.13nevcairielno clue yet where the other druid hidden appeareances come from
21:55.32nevcairieli prefer the glowing pve forms
21:55.34nevcairiellook shiny
21:56.45Megaloni'd prefer a moonkin that odes not look like a kimdotcom and donalstrump mashup
21:57.06nevcairielmoonkins are fat, deal with it
21:57.09nevcairielcan always go astral
21:57.30Megaloni hope those are still there when it'S live
21:57.37Megalonbecause right now they are on a special vendor
21:57.44nevcairielastral form is still t here, but the vendor isnt
21:57.47nevcairielneed to find a scribe
21:58.03nevcairielhidden moonkin weapon looks nice
21:58.05nevcairielall glowy
21:58.06Megalonznf asks for heroics because worldquests "ye we can do heroics"
21:58.12Megalonand then silence
21:58.46znfoh
21:58.49znfI didnt' see that line
21:58.56Megalonalso he has lvl23 artifact
21:59.00Megalonbecause of his exploits
21:59.03nevcairieland still no dps
21:59.24znfI do deeps now
22:03.01Kesavabaaah they restart the server every time i log in
22:03.40nevcairielsupposedly the fixed the annoying naga, did you get her yet
22:03.44nevcairielMegalon: ^
22:03.47Megalonno
22:03.47Megalonoh
22:03.49Megaloni hope so
22:03.50Megalone
22:05.55nevcairielMegalon: the marker is also tiny now, she doesnt move much anymore
22:06.45Megalonsounds good
22:08.15nevcairielbrightwing has the dumbest quests
22:08.22nevcairieldid you do the one where you have to put a seed in 100 corpses
22:08.58Megalonhm?
22:09.01Megaloni think
22:16.49Megaloni only have raidquests left
22:16.53Megalonand that pendant bitchquest
22:17.29nevcairieli mostly stopped playing at some point so i still have plenty left
22:17.34nevcairieljust tried a few for testing purposes
22:18.07znfSo you're saying it's your fault Kesava ?
22:19.25Megaloneveryone knows it's your fault, znf
22:19.35znf<Kesava> baaah they restart the server every time i log in
22:19.37znfhis fault
22:19.50nevcairielbeta has been restarting a lot today, a lot of fixes going in
22:20.08Megalonoh, guess that's why znf wants to do heroics for artifact power
22:20.17Megalonand not logoff/logon in every minute
22:20.19Megalonin some remote zone
22:24.56Megalonthere she is, stupid fat naga whore!
22:27.09Megalonha, the raise 8 champions to level 110 does not trigger if you do it with the XP item :o
22:27.55nevcairielreport a bug
22:28.03znfI'll never understand why some online stores have a minimum order
22:28.17znfI get it if you offer free shipping over the amount of X
22:28.38znfbut if you're going to ask me to pay for shipping & handling regardless, then why have a minimum order?
22:29.02Megalonznf can you reactivated followers yet?
22:29.08znfyeah
22:29.12nevcairieli did it this morning
22:29.31nevcairielznf: they want you to buy more things
22:29.46Megalonbrightwing has such a useless 2nd ability lol
22:30.05Megalon50% your troops don't die what
22:30.14Megalonglad i saved those 50 resource!
22:32.01znfnevcairiel, I get that
22:32.06znfBut the item I want to buy is 10€
22:32.08znfthe minimum order is 50
22:33.20znfI can't even buy the same item 5 times, because they only have 4 in stock :-|
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23:48.17StanzillaGnarfoz: https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/4rjn28/patch_1051b_on_pc/
23:48.19StanzillaKesava: ^
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