| 00:10.33 | Stanzilla | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfsMmiSNPvE |
| 00:16.48 | nebula | not sure how it got enabled without him finishing the process, ie, putting in the auth code from his auth |
| 00:17.37 | Stanzilla | that probably works since you are still logged in |
| 00:21.11 | znf | jesus, no internet sucks |
| 00:21.15 | znf | I'm tethered now |
| 00:21.39 | Stanzilla | why did your parents lose internet |
| 00:22.08 | znf | we had a power outage here today, we run out of water in the whole building, too |
| 00:24.00 | znf | and after the power outage, the ISPs equipment in building seems to have some issue... it happens every 2-3 months... |
| 00:24.11 | znf | they haven't sent anyone yet to fix it, I've called at 6pm (after we got our power back) |
| 00:32.26 | znf | meh, beta patch? |
| 00:32.27 | znf | damn it |
| 00:32.50 | znf | oh come on, 550MB?! |
| 00:32.54 | znf | over my 3G? :-| |
| 00:33.00 | Stanzilla | get rekt |
| 00:33.09 | znf | barely 1.35MB/sec jesus fuck |
| 00:33.15 | znf | I feel like an USian |
| 00:33.48 | znf | I clearly need to get a phone that supports my telcos 4G band |
| 00:33.52 | nebula | eh, us internet is usually decently fast if you're not in the boonies, just expensive |
| 00:36.11 | znf | hmm, at least latency is not that bad over 3G |
| 00:36.56 | znf | oh, beta realms are down? |
| 00:36.58 | znf | :-| |
| 00:42.35 | znf | man, I hate clients so much, we migrated a website from an old server, client didn't say that he had https enabled... |
| 00:43.40 | znf | no backup of private key, obviously |
| 00:45.21 | znf | 3 years cert, this was bought/installed way before I came here; I doubt we have a copy of it somewhere... |
| 00:45.53 | nebula | the private key should have been on the server you migrated... |
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| 00:46.09 | znf | Yeah, it should have... |
| 00:46.36 | znf | That old server is inaccesible right now, so bye bye private key. |
| 00:46.55 | znf | Maybe I can get away with offering a LE cert :D |
| 00:47.12 | nebula | i mean, you did the migration, you didn't check his conf? |
| 00:47.36 | nebula | not sure how that's the client's fault |
| 00:47.52 | znf | client said "just migrate sites X and Y, that's all we need" |
| 00:48.27 | znf | I've been in talks with this guy since November to migrate... In January his old host shut down the VM. |
| 00:48.56 | znf | Then it took few days for them to reactivate. Then I set up a new server for them, when the old one was still active. I migrated all the data, asked him to check if everything's OK and if something is missing / not working. |
| 00:49.20 | znf | Last contact / request was in March |
| 00:49.25 | znf | Now it's almost July :-/ |
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| 01:33.30 | znf | wow, Brexit is really tight |
| 01:35.38 | nebula | it's been predicated to be for awhile |
| 01:35.59 | nebula | early polling was like 52/48 for staying |
| 01:36.16 | znf | >but Mind Control has a 3 min cooldown, and it may not be used against players. Priest - Level 45 Talent. |
| 01:36.21 | znf | way to ruin our fun, Blizzard |
| 01:36.56 | znf | I'm still hoping that means the MC lasts forever though |
| 01:37.16 | znf | nebula, really close now http://www.bbc.com/news/politics/eu_referendum/results |
| 01:37.25 | znf | >Remain has 50.7% of votes counted so far |
| 01:38.00 | znf | 50.6% now |
| 01:38.59 | nebula | they were saying that a lot of the first polling stations to be counted are in heavy blue collar areas, so a good preview |
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| 01:40.02 | nebula | or indicator, i guess is a better word |
| 01:40.11 | znf | so most blue collar areas want to leave? |
| 01:40.32 | nebula | apparently |
| 01:41.05 | znf | ARTIFACT_WARRIOR_PROT_WEAPONNAME - Scale of the Earth-Warder |
| 01:41.05 | znf | ARTIFACT_WARRIOR_PROT_WEAPONNAME_SECOND (New) - Earth-Warder |
| 01:41.11 | znf | Why the hell did they need a 2nd string? |
| 01:41.25 | nebula | short form? |
| 01:41.48 | znf | Interesting |
| 01:43.43 | znf | http://beta.wowdb.com/items/132515-failure-detection-pylon <-- this sounds awesome :D |
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| 01:47.09 | znf | Those Vantus Runes are just % dmg increase against a specific boss, right? |
| 01:47.16 | znf | Something to help you up if you're stuck on a progression boss |
| 01:47.22 | znf | realms are UP btw |
| 01:53.53 | znf | lol |
| 01:53.58 | znf | ok, they've ruined Mind Control now |
| 01:54.00 | znf | they made it 30s |
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| 02:18.41 | znf | Stanzilla, it was fun while it lasted :( |
| 02:36.26 | znf | Kesava, 2x Kui_Nameplates_Core\create.lua:751: bad argument #1 to 'strlen' (string expected, got nil) |
| 02:37.59 | Kesava | Location? |
| 02:38.07 | Kesava | In the world I mean |
| 02:38.21 | Kesava | (of Warcraft) |
| 02:42.02 | znf | Kesava, I was doing the illidan scenario, I think |
| 02:42.08 | znf | the last part |
| 02:42.26 | znf | I noticed it late |
| 02:43.28 | Kesava | .. my irc client crashed, can you repeat your highlight |
| 02:43.52 | znf | <znf> Kesava, I was doing the illidan scenario, I think |
| 02:43.59 | Kesava | Ah. Kay. |
| 02:44.14 | znf | I noticed it late |
| 02:44.18 | Kesava | Well apparently there's n |
| 02:44.34 | Kesava | ... some mob in there with no name or no unit. |
| 02:44.46 | Kesava | Or I just broke something. Probably that one. |
| 02:45.24 | Kesava | is ircing on my phone. |
| 02:46.20 | znf | You pay $5 for a bouncer? O.o |
| 02:50.21 | Kesava | No, its free |
| 02:50.39 | Kesava | #layerbnc |
| 02:51.05 | Kesava | I could also just use my pi these days but oh well |
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| 07:58.57 | Megalon | Brexit. Grexit. Departugal. Italeave. Fruckoff. Czechout. Oustria. Finish. Slovakout. Latervia. Byegium. |
| 07:58.58 | Megalon | hehe |
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| 08:04.10 | Kalroth | Independent States of Ireland and Scottland |
| 08:11.26 | Kesava | my country is terrible |
| 08:11.26 | Kesava | woo |
| 08:11.53 | Kesava | [while economy collapses] /cheer woo yay we won |
| 08:11.53 | Kesava | uhuh |
| 08:14.13 | znf | bye brexit |
| 08:14.40 | znf | http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=gbpusd=x#{"allowChartStacking":true} |
| 08:14.41 | znf | Woah. |
| 08:14.44 | znf | holly shit |
| 08:14.58 | Kesava | quite |
| 08:16.18 | znf | well, time to buy cheap shit now |
| 08:16.52 | Kesava | steam sale! |
| 08:17.20 | znf | I mean physical goods from UK |
| 08:17.27 | znf | so the actual exist is in October? |
| 08:17.30 | znf | exit* |
| 08:18.29 | Kesava | no, that's when the conservatives get a new leader. after that there'll probably be an early election. if so, it depends who's elected. an early election campaign could base it on whether or not they'll actually go through with it |
| 08:18.44 | Kesava | otherwise, the conservatives will likely trigger it then, and that takes 2 years |
| 08:19.01 | znf | so you get out in 2 years? |
| 08:19.05 | Kesava | yup |
| 08:19.18 | znf | let me rephrase it: until when can I buy stuff from UK without worrying about custom taxes? :P |
| 08:19.29 | Kesava | 2 years |
| 08:19.41 | Kesava | they're saying summer 2018 |
| 08:19.42 | Ironii | making economic decisions based on emotions instead of facts, best tactic ever. |
| 08:19.46 | znf | ah, cool |
| 08:20.10 | Semlar | i don't even know what the EU is |
| 08:20.24 | znf | Semlar, akin to your united states |
| 08:21.02 | znf | different states have different laws & crap |
| 08:21.11 | znf | but they share a common legal framework |
| 08:21.16 | Semlar | so this is like a state seceding from the union? |
| 08:21.17 | znf | and currency |
| 08:21.21 | znf | kind of, yeah |
| 08:21.34 | Semlar | well, i guess it's easier for an island |
| 08:21.43 | znf | now, consider it that if Florida left the united states |
| 08:21.47 | Kesava | yeah except gibraltar |
| 08:21.56 | znf | You would need a passport to get out of Florida into another state |
| 08:22.00 | znf | that's what happens with UK, too, afaik |
| 08:22.20 | Kesava | more than a passport, we already need a passport to cross borders |
| 08:22.21 | Semlar | a lot of people would probably be okay with floridians needing passports to leave |
| 08:22.33 | Kesava | unless there's a deal of some sort, now we'd also need visas |
| 08:22.36 | Kesava | which is fucking dumb |
| 08:22.37 | znf | Semlar, also to visit florida :P |
| 08:22.39 | znf | Kesava, oh, yeah |
| 08:22.48 | znf | well, you didn't need a passport to travel to EU, did you? |
| 08:22.49 | znf | We don't |
| 08:22.56 | Kesava | we did |
| 08:23.08 | znf | huh? how? |
| 08:23.14 | znf | I don't need one to go to every EU state |
| 08:23.19 | znf | I just need my ID card |
| 08:23.20 | Kesava | any out of country travel requires a passport for us at least |
| 08:23.23 | Kesava | probably not an eu thing |
| 08:23.34 | znf | wait, do you guys have ID cards? |
| 08:23.39 | znf | You're not like americans, right? |
| 08:23.43 | Kesava | i don't know what one is so maybe not |
| 08:24.05 | Semlar | a license? |
| 08:24.18 | Kesava | we have "government issued IDs" which count as a driving license, things like that. no generic "ID card" |
| 08:24.30 | znf | yeah, that |
| 08:24.50 | znf | http://www.fakeid.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/small_image/349x220/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/f/2/f2-f1.jpg |
| 08:24.51 | znf | that |
| 08:25.07 | znf | we can just travel with that, inside the EU |
| 08:25.08 | Kesava | well -i- don't have one of those |
| 08:25.17 | znf | how? O.o |
| 08:25.23 | Kesava | i don't drive |
| 08:25.36 | znf | that's not a driving license |
| 08:25.53 | znf | do you seriously not have an id card mandatory, issued by your state? |
| 08:25.54 | Kesava | i have never seen one of those |
| 08:25.55 | Semlar | in the US i'm pretty sure you're required to have a photo ID regardless of your driving status |
| 08:25.57 | Kesava | nope |
| 08:26.05 | znf | Semlar, afaik you're not? |
| 08:26.13 | Semlar | no you legally have to be able to identify yourself |
| 08:26.23 | znf | Semlar, you do? since when? |
| 08:26.24 | Kesava | znf: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Agreement |
| 08:26.29 | Semlar | since ever |
| 08:26.31 | Kesava | we opted out of that apparently. |
| 08:26.31 | Ironii | znf its not required in finland either |
| 08:26.42 | znf | Semlar, then why do you have so much identity theft in the US? |
| 08:26.48 | znf | Also, why do you require to register to vote? |
| 08:26.58 | Semlar | because it's really easy to steal someone's identity |
| 08:27.27 | znf | maybe in the US.. |
| 08:28.08 | znf | you can't do shit here without a CNP ("numerical personal code") and an ID card |
| 08:28.42 | Semlar | ok, but if someone got your CNP and personal information they could fairly easily forge your ID |
| 08:29.39 | znf | sure, they could, but banks, for example, are required to check the validity of the ID card |
| 08:29.40 | Semlar | i assume you don't need your ID to identify yourself to people over the phone or electronically |
| 08:30.05 | znf | do you guys issue credit cards without verification? |
| 08:31.07 | Semlar | if someone has your name, social security number, and date of birth they could probably sign up for practically anything |
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| 08:31.38 | znf | not here, even if you apply for a credit card (which is not that easy in the first place, we mostly use debit cards here) |
| 08:31.46 | znf | you are required to provide an ID card when you pick it up |
| 08:32.00 | znf | which has security markers (sure, those could be forged, but doesn't really happen) |
| 08:32.19 | Kesava | "pick it up"? |
| 08:32.40 | Kesava | mine was mailed to me. and here at least we have address verification, things like being on the electoral register |
| 08:32.41 | znf | yes, they don't ship it to your postbox, for security reasons |
| 08:32.46 | Kesava | well. |
| 08:32.52 | Semlar | i've had my debit card information stolen and someone used it to withdraw money from a bank |
| 08:33.07 | Semlar | probably from a skimmer at a gas station |
| 08:33.07 | znf | Semlar, tell me it wasn't Chase |
| 08:33.18 | Semlar | wells fargo |
| 08:33.26 | znf | ok, wasn't me |
| 08:33.42 | Semlar | as far as i know they physically went to a bank to do the transaction |
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| 08:34.08 | Semlar | that's how it showed up on my statement |
| 08:34.14 | Semlar | ..in another city |
| 08:34.17 | Ironii | hah, that would be an awesome trick in finland |
| 08:34.25 | Kesava | sounds very secure |
| 08:34.26 | Ironii | its hard to get even money from your own account |
| 08:34.34 | Semlar | i have no idea how they did it |
| 08:34.36 | znf | Semlar, no pins? :P |
| 08:34.40 | Semlar | we have pins |
| 08:34.40 | Funkeh` | goodbye europe! |
| 08:34.47 | znf | YOU DO? SINCE WHEN?! |
| 08:35.00 | Semlar | since ever? |
| 08:35.09 | znf | Also, you barely started using smartcards in the US, afaik |
| 08:35.21 | znf | last time I checked, you were still majorly using the magstrip |
| 08:35.24 | Semlar | they've started giving us these stupid chip cards |
| 08:35.36 | Kesava | ... |
| 08:35.39 | znf | good |
| 08:35.43 | znf | so you don't get your damn money stolen |
| 08:35.45 | znf | like you did |
| 08:35.46 | Semlar | they're so much slower than swiping it |
| 08:35.58 | znf | shitty infrastructure |
| 08:36.00 | Kesava | welcome to the 21st century |
| 08:36.07 | znf | I mostly pay by visa-paywave |
| 08:36.22 | znf | (which is pretty much nfc) |
| 08:36.27 | znf | I just touch my card to the POS |
| 08:36.48 | znf | if transaction is more than 99.99 RON (~25 USD), I'm asked for a PIN |
| 08:36.57 | Semlar | you'd have shitty infrastructure too if your country was the size of the US |
| 08:38.04 | Ironii | the rest of the decade will be quite interesting, first UK decides to leave EU becouse of fear, then Trump will get elected...for same reason |
| 08:38.12 | Ironii | can't wait to see what happens in 2020 |
| 08:38.31 | Semlar | don't worry, we probably won't get to |
| 08:38.34 | Kesava | #terroristswin |
| 08:38.55 | Ironii | Semlar see 2020 or elect trump ? :D |
| 08:39.19 | Semlar | 4 whole years of a trump presidency? |
| 08:45.45 | Semlar | are you ready for it |
| 08:46.10 | znf | kind of scared about russia |
| 08:46.14 | Phixion | mornign |
| 08:46.48 | Kesava | hello the world is falling apart |
| 08:47.06 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/kF8fB0L.png |
| 08:47.07 | znf | what the fuck |
| 08:47.25 | Kesava | is that the tank by any chance |
| 08:47.32 | znf | no |
| 08:47.40 | Kesava | oh. well tanks do a lot of damage too. |
| 08:48.24 | znf | tank was the paladin |
| 08:48.28 | znf | It's funny. |
| 08:48.35 | znf | holy priests have a better aoe than shadow |
| 08:49.31 | znf | oh wait, that's disc |
| 08:51.53 | Kesava | i was going to say |
| 08:56.06 | znf | we haven't had a good aoe since WoTLK as Shadow |
| 08:57.19 | nevcairiel | not every class is meant to be good at aoe, get over it already |
| 08:57.37 | Kesava | but hunters want their arrowstorm! |
| 09:01.08 | znf | which class doesn't have a decent aoe? |
| 09:01.16 | znf | I'm not saying "omfg, big numbers" |
| 09:01.26 | Kesava | rogues |
| 09:01.28 | znf | but something that you can do some dps, not 10% of the next guy above you |
| 09:01.33 | znf | fan of knives does stuff! |
| 09:01.36 | nevcairiel | if the aoe does no damage, its not good |
| 09:01.37 | Kesava | pssh |
| 09:01.53 | nevcairiel | ferals and rogues are both not very good at aoe, you're often better off single-targeting in between |
| 09:01.59 | Kesava | WHAT |
| 09:02.08 | Kesava | "couldn't find cvar named cameradistancemax" |
| 09:02.09 | Kesava | WHAT |
| 09:02.20 | Megalon | starfall should just be a passive around the druid! |
| 09:02.30 | Megalon | also my tree suddenly has no more hurricane :< |
| 09:02.47 | nevcairiel | you shouldnt be dpsing as tree anyway |
| 09:02.49 | nevcairiel | its just weird |
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| 09:03.49 | Kalroth | melee dps as a tree |
| 09:04.48 | Kesava | Semlar: is there a new way to get bigger zoom-outs? |
| 09:05.49 | Kesava | (/anyone else) |
| 09:05.54 | Megalon | did tree have ursols vortex beforehand? |
| 09:05.57 | Semlar | as far as i can tell you can just zoom the camera out to max distance regardless |
| 09:06.12 | Kesava | doesn't seem neaaaarly as far to me |
| 09:06.21 | znf | they broke that in the last build |
| 09:07.53 | Kesava | also, why is it you always get the 50/100/250/etc "quests completed" achievements after you do like 5 quests |
| 09:08.29 | Kesava | do i just lose track |
| 09:09.23 | Semlar | maybe from secret tracking quests |
| 09:09.34 | nevcairiel | there is a slider for the max camera distance Kesava, doesnt that work |
| 09:09.47 | znf | nope |
| 09:09.50 | nevcairiel | works for me |
| 09:09.50 | Kesava | yeees, but that's never actually gone to max |
| 09:09.51 | Megalon | is hurricane gone now? |
| 09:10.02 | znf | what Kesava said |
| 09:10.33 | znf | Kesava, SET cameraDistanceMax "10" |
| 09:10.35 | znf | that worked for me |
| 09:11.09 | Kesava | i have to leave the game?! |
| 09:11.09 | Kesava | psh |
| 09:11.13 | znf | no |
| 09:11.38 | Kesava | well i'm being told cameradistancemax doesn't exist, and doing /console cameradistancemax didn't do anything |
| 09:11.45 | znf | do cameraDistanceMax |
| 09:12.01 | Semlar | capitalization doesn't matter |
| 09:12.04 | Kesava | idd |
| 09:12.11 | znf | *shrug* |
| 09:12.45 | znf | I remember someone complaining on /2 last night, and he pasted cameraDistanceMax set to 10 and that worked |
| 09:13.04 | nevcairiel | the thing the slider controls is cameraDistanceMaxFactor btw, and setting that to maximum feels similar to what it used to be |
| 09:13.04 | Semlar | the cvar doesn't exist so |
| 09:13.12 | Ketho | why would he set it to 10 :s |
| 09:13.27 | Kesava | hm. perhaps |
| 09:13.36 | Semlar | nah kesava's right, it's not even close to the max camera distance |
| 09:13.48 | znf | the slider never worked to max |
| 09:13.56 | Semlar | even setting it manually |
| 09:13.58 | znf | I mean, you could always get it further by setting it manually |
| 09:14.08 | znf | but, like I said, they broke that in last night's build |
| 09:14.09 | Kesava | yeah it doesn't let you |
| 09:14.10 | Semlar | which is weird because i thought it multiplied the maxfactor |
| 09:14.26 | nevcairiel | you do realize that they are changing a whole lot of things, and your "could always in the past" statements are just pointless garbage |
| 09:14.35 | Kesava | YEAH |
| 09:14.36 | nevcairiel | so go break some more servers znf :P |
| 09:14.45 | znf | undocumented change! |
| 09:14.48 | Semlar | 1.9 is the max value for maxfactor |
| 09:14.54 | znf | also, why would they change that? |
| 09:14.58 | znf | it's been like that at least since BC |
| 09:15.11 | Semlar | working as intended |
| 09:15.34 | Semlar | probably messing with camera functions and accidentally the cvar |
| 09:15.55 | Kesava | the whole thing |
| 09:15.57 | znf | uhm, my game is on steroids |
| 09:16.05 | znf | suddenly everything moves at 2x the speed |
| 09:16.06 | Kalroth | asteroids? |
| 09:16.09 | Semlar | well there are still plenty of other camera functions |
| 09:16.19 | znf | like I have a speedhack |
| 09:16.26 | Megalon | "Wenn die Briten austreten, hat die EU wieder mehr Platz. Genau 1 GB." |
| 09:16.27 | Megalon | h3h3 |
| 09:16.38 | Semlar | in fact cameraDistanceMax is still listed in the console help |
| 09:16.59 | Kesava | as if anyone updates documentation |
| 09:17.15 | znf | https://gfycat.com/FeminineUnequaledKillerwhale |
| 09:17.15 | znf | wtf |
| 09:17.31 | Semlar | is your clock moving faster |
| 09:17.37 | Kesava | yeah i've had that problem before. though it was on linux/wine so that'd be excusable. |
| 09:17.47 | Kesava | it would generally just kick me out of the game. |
| 09:19.20 | znf | yeah, it does |
| 09:19.31 | znf | haha, every time I drop to the login screen, it seems that it's increasing it's speed |
| 09:20.52 | znf | there really needs to be a better way to share small screen clippings |
| 09:21.17 | znf | not screenshots, but actual video |
| 09:21.30 | Semlar | moving pictures (c) |
| 09:22.26 | Kesava | like.. gifs? |
| 09:22.39 | Semlar | no it's completely different |
| 09:22.54 | Semlar | it's like a still photograph except it moves |
| 09:23.06 | Kesava | a printable gif |
| 09:37.25 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/s6tkClE.png |
| 09:37.26 | znf | uhm |
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| 09:39.06 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: do you know if windows password policies can block "similar" passwords to the ones you had? someone claims it can, but encrypted/hashed storage should make that impossible right? |
| 09:41.14 | Kesava | i could be entirely wrong but i believe windows passwords are encrypted, not hashed |
| 09:41.20 | Kesava | which does not make that impossible of course |
| 09:41.31 | Kesava | that is, if they haven't changed it since XP. |
| 09:41.41 | Kesava | they were plaintext in some file at some point. |
| 09:41.55 | Kesava | definitive data here |
| 09:43.45 | znf | cool, I just got beaten at DPS by a disc priest |
| 09:43.46 | znf | on a boss fight |
| 09:46.30 | nevcairiel | Kesava: there is actually a checkbox that lets you enable reversible encryption, which is marked as insecure |
| 09:47.00 | Kesava | i see |
| 09:57.33 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: definitely possible, I can't re-use my last 6 or so passwords |
| 09:57.54 | nevcairiel | well saving old passwords is standard |
| 09:57.58 | nevcairiel | but "similar" passwords? |
| 09:58.02 | Gnarfoz | oh |
| 09:58.11 | Gnarfoz | too hot in here, didn't read properly |
| 09:58.23 | Gnarfoz | I don't see how that would be possible |
| 09:58.36 | Gnarfoz | I can ask our Windows guy |
| 09:58.52 | nevcairiel | i suppose if you really wanted to, you could normalize the password somehow and store that, and then block any passwords that normalize to the same form |
| 09:59.17 | nevcairiel | but it seems far fetched |
| 09:59.50 | Gnarfoz | since I just swap around some letters/numbers each time it expires, I doubt that it's turned on here, if it even exists |
| 10:00.09 | nevcairiel | thats what most people do, and wht makes forced password change policies so stupid |
| 10:00.30 | nevcairiel | incrementing numbers etc |
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| 10:07.00 | Fisker | I do not believe it can nevcairiel |
| 10:08.26 | Fisker | https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh994571(v=ws.11).aspx |
| 10:08.27 | Fisker | has this though |
| 10:08.33 | Fisker | but those are the exact same password |
| 10:09.07 | nevcairiel | yeah same password history is known |
| 10:09.44 | Fisker | Probably they've mistaken it with the fact that you can't use your account name or first/last name |
| 10:10.13 | Fisker | Especially if that's been turned on after they set a password |
| 10:10.22 | Fisker | Then Fisker123, Fisker124, Fisker125 would all fail |
| 10:10.51 | Fisker | You would then maybe guess it was the similarity but not actually that password policies were changed to not allow your username/name inside anymore |
| 10:13.36 | Gnarfoz | yeah |
| 10:13.42 | znf | Megalon, did I mention I'm doing world quests? |
| 10:14.16 | znf | [13:14:15] Xal'atath whispers: Boring. |
| 10:14.19 | znf | fuck off, artifact |
| 10:14.47 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: http://serverfault.com/a/80263/78672 it's possible to do, but not with built-in features |
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| 10:39.41 | sb | so - what to buy on amazon.co.uk now? :o |
| 10:43.55 | znf | you have time until 2018 or so |
| 10:46.41 | znf | I keep getting Robes, Head pieces, feet |
| 10:47.06 | znf | meanwhile, my cloak is still 775 |
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| 11:14.01 | Stanzilla | 1sup |
| 11:32.33 | Stanzilla | nebula: am I imagining things or is the bar jumping in the opposite direction a few times https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/yv8e8qqxjlam6wg/2016-06-24_13-31-10.webm?dl=0 |
| 11:33.25 | nevcairiel | pb has the weirdest bugs |
| 11:33.43 | Stanzilla | well do you see what I see? |
| 11:33.49 | nevcairiel | which bar |
| 11:33.53 | Stanzilla | the middle one |
| 11:34.06 | nevcairiel | yes it jumps a bit sometimes |
| 11:34.10 | Stanzilla | ok |
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| 11:35.19 | Stanzilla | could be lag maybe |
| 11:35.33 | Stanzilla | 180ms vs unit_power_frequent |
| 11:35.58 | Stanzilla | I don't want it to be a bar algorithm bug :E |
| 11:36.23 | Stanzilla | I recently read that there is now a blizz implementation of a "smooth" statusbar btw |
| 11:36.30 | Stanzilla | might be worth looking into, even for SUF, nevcairiel |
| 11:36.50 | nevcairiel | i dont like those animated dealys honestly |
| 11:37.31 | nevcairiel | and its probably the AnimatedStatusBarMixin |
| 11:38.09 | Stanzilla | yup |
| 11:41.48 | nevcairiel | i wonder how many hidden issues there are in SUF, no idea how many people test it on the beta |
| 11:41.57 | nevcairiel | works for me :p |
| 11:42.12 | nevcairiel | i linked a zip package on the addon page |
| 11:42.15 | nevcairiel | shrugs |
| 11:43.11 | Stanzilla | since repo is down and no one is able to see any commits, I now need to check what you did |
| 11:43.24 | nevcairiel | been ages since i changed suf |
| 11:43.37 | nevcairiel | mostly clobbered together some new class modules and removed others |
| 11:43.44 | nevcairiel | i dont know shit about most classes =p |
| 11:44.04 | nevcairiel | just created a template and checked if they show some special power |
| 11:44.59 | Stanzilla | looks ok to me |
| 11:45.06 | Stanzilla | suf has a hide blizzard module, yeah? |
| 11:45.14 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 11:45.15 | Stanzilla | might have to remove the consolidatedaura hiding there |
| 11:45.22 | Stanzilla | or whatever that was called |
| 11:45.24 | nevcairiel | did that |
| 11:45.26 | nevcairiel | errored before |
| 11:45.26 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 11:45.29 | Stanzilla | ah ok, wasnt in the changelog |
| 11:46.09 | nevcairiel | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:46.10 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 11:46.12 | Stanzilla | oh |
| 11:46.40 | Stanzilla | was reading this http://www.wowace.com/addons/shadowed-unit-frames/files/9441-v4-1-legion-beta1/ |
| 11:47.02 | nevcairiel | it might have snuck into "Remove class power frames from blizzard hider which no longer exist" |
| 11:47.11 | Stanzilla | makes sense |
| 11:47.29 | nevcairiel | i added some new frames to the other commit after the zip |
| 11:47.57 | Stanzilla | did you change 3d model stuff? |
| 11:48.05 | Stanzilla | because that's better in legion |
| 11:48.11 | nevcairiel | dont think so |
| 11:48.14 | nevcairiel | i dont use 3d portraits |
| 11:48.18 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 11:48.56 | Stanzilla | if we had gitweb, I could point you to the pb4 commit |
| 11:48.57 | Stanzilla | but nooope |
| 11:49.06 | nevcairiel | hm looks fine |
| 11:49.25 | nevcairiel | my hood is really obscuring my face, but the head protrait looks fine |
| 11:49.31 | Stanzilla | dunno if suf did it but pb delayed the model setup a bit |
| 11:49.35 | Stanzilla | because it bugged out without |
| 11:49.48 | Stanzilla | and there is a new OnModelLoaded event |
| 11:50.05 | nevcairiel | never heard any issue reports |
| 11:50.24 | Stanzilla | yeah well would be optimization only |
| 11:50.33 | Stanzilla | pb used to poll GetModel() |
| 11:50.38 | Stanzilla | now OnModelLoaded |
| 11:50.51 | nevcairiel | i dont see any such code in suf |
| 11:51.11 | Stanzilla | ok then :D |
| 11:52.06 | Stanzilla | if you have smooth status bar off, would that make you not get errors for SetChange? |
| 11:58.29 | Stanzilla | can't think of anything else apart from that |
| 11:59.26 | Stanzilla | oh the CooldownFrame_Set change maybe |
| 11:59.47 | nevcairiel | i fixed all obvious script errors of course |
| 11:59.48 | Stanzilla | btw nebula rewrote LibDualSpec for the new specs system |
| 11:59.58 | nevcairiel | in the real repo? |
| 11:59.58 | Stanzilla | not published yet though |
| 12:00.15 | nevcairiel | the original author lacked beta access apparently |
| 12:00.23 | Stanzilla | I think he was still thinking about upgrading the old or making a new with new name |
| 12:00.40 | nevcairiel | fine with either, just need to know to update bt4 and suf if need be |
| 12:00.42 | Stanzilla | because Dual doesnt fit anymore and the author was MIA |
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| 12:41.35 | Stanzilla | Semlar: do you have a solution to hide the raid flyout thingy that does not taint? |
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| 13:42.33 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: ping |
| 13:42.45 | Ketho | why not just disable the blizzard addon behind it with DisableAddOn("Blizzard_CompactRaidFrames") or do you still need it for something |
| 13:43.08 | Stanzilla | Ketho: I didn't know that works |
| 13:43.25 | nevcairiel | i dont think you can disable blizzard addons |
| 13:43.46 | Ketho | but i've been doing it for a while with HideRaidFrame |
| 13:44.02 | Stanzilla | or nevcairiel do you know which features are unavailable when you enable hyper-v on windows? |
| 13:44.09 | Stanzilla | was it hibernate? |
| 14:05.20 | nevcairiel | hibernate should work with hyper-v these days, unless they didnt port that to consumer windows from the servers |
| 14:06.32 | Stanzilla | I remember Gnarfoz saying it's a different kernel when hyper v is on |
| 14:06.37 | Stanzilla | and that it has some problems |
| 14:06.39 | Stanzilla | or missing stuff |
| 14:06.40 | nevcairiel | it is |
| 14:06.52 | Stanzilla | I tried googling it but couldnt find a list |
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| 14:48.21 | Megalon | well, guess they removed flap |
| 14:48.29 | Megalon | learned that the hard impactful way |
| 14:48.46 | nevcairiel | flap was still there yesterday |
| 14:48.56 | nevcairiel | did you learn the flap book? |
| 14:50.52 | Megalon | when i click flap |
| 14:50.57 | Megalon | you can't do that yet |
| 14:51.04 | Megalon | and yes i'm in moonkin |
| 14:51.16 | Megalon | it's in my spellbook and in the actionbar it's faded out |
| 14:51.53 | nevcairiel | worked last night :d |
| 14:54.19 | Stanzilla | they removed the cameraMaxdistance cvar last night |
| 14:54.50 | nevcairiel | after the patcherino |
| 14:55.07 | quiescens | o.o |
| 14:55.27 | Megalon | perhaps znf cursed me |
| 14:55.30 | Megalon | :( |
| 15:07.03 | Stanzilla | too |
| 15:07.04 | Stanzilla | fucking |
| 15:07.05 | Stanzilla | hot |
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| 15:09.39 | Fisker | yes Stanzilla |
| 15:09.42 | Fisker | help me |
| 15:20.02 | nevcairiel | my flap still works Megalon |
| 15:20.16 | nevcairiel | but its affinity, not real balance owl |
| 15:22.18 | Stanzilla | Fisker: ice cubes? |
| 15:22.30 | Stanzilla | can you fit one in your belly button? |
| 15:33.28 | Stanzilla | Fisker: did you die? |
| 15:33.36 | Fisker | Yes |
| 15:33.44 | Stanzilla | was it Ice Cube? |
| 15:33.54 | nevcairiel | you should move to rheinland pfalz Stanzilla, they have plenty rain to cool everything off |
| 15:34.02 | Stanzilla | yeah I saw |
| 15:34.07 | Stanzilla | can just swim on the streets |
| 15:39.51 | Megalon | nev what? |
| 15:39.58 | Megalon | hm |
| 15:40.09 | Megalon | i'll try if it works on my treespec with affinity |
| 15:40.22 | nevcairiel | early beta it didnt work with affinity |
| 15:40.27 | nevcairiel | i reported a bug, it got fixed |
| 15:40.34 | Megalon | yea i noticed that |
| 15:41.14 | Megalon | oh and champtions now show locked slots |
| 15:41.23 | Megalon | so you know that they get them with rare and epic quality |
| 15:41.23 | nevcairiel | i saw that |
| 15:41.29 | nevcairiel | helps to explain that |
| 15:41.38 | nevcairiel | before i had no idea how to use those items until someone told me |
| 15:41.39 | Megalon | lol nev |
| 15:41.46 | Megalon | now flap only works with affinity moonkin |
| 15:41.49 | Megalon | but not moonkinmoonkin |
| 15:41.51 | nevcairiel | fine with me |
| 15:41.51 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 15:41.52 | Megalon | >:< |
| 15:41.58 | Megalon | i hate u 2 |
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| 16:32.06 | Stanzilla | nebula: did you decide on what to do with your libdualspec? |
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| 16:56.43 | znf | wonder if they plan on fixing activating followers |
| 16:56.47 | znf | I deactivated my zealots |
| 16:56.52 | znf | now I can't activate them again :D |
| 16:57.06 | znf | also can't train new ones |
| 16:57.20 | Megalon | you broke it |
| 16:57.23 | Megalon | who would have thought! |
| 16:57.36 | Megalon | artifact thing was reduced to only cost 500 weee |
| 16:58.35 | znf | are they called the same for all classes/specs? |
| 16:58.43 | znf | priest has Zealots and Acolytes |
| 17:00.10 | Megalon | druid of the claw and treants here :P |
| 17:00.45 | Stanzilla | yeah different for every class |
| 17:04.27 | Megalon | guess the researches are kinda the same too? |
| 17:04.57 | Megalon | upgrading one of them at #4, decide to either get a very big one or a free bonusroll at #5 |
| 17:05.36 | znf | upon windows install, is there a damn way to mount a secondary partition as a directory? (ie: C:\Users) |
| 17:06.09 | Stanzilla | no |
| 17:06.16 | znf | fuckin' retarded |
| 17:06.20 | Fisker | You wanna fight Stanzilla ? |
| 17:06.29 | Fisker | Why shouldn't you be able to? |
| 17:06.39 | Stanzilla | I just said no to piss him off :( |
| 17:06.46 | znf | Fisker, HOW? >_< |
| 17:06.57 | Fisker | No znf |
| 17:07.01 | znf | ... |
| 17:07.12 | Megalon | hahaha |
| 17:07.27 | znf | HA! |
| 17:07.29 | znf | You can |
| 17:07.54 | Fisker | Of course znf |
| 17:08.02 | Stanzilla | znf: how? |
| 17:08.14 | znf | let me be 100% sure |
| 17:08.54 | Fisker | Probably just mount it Stanzilla |
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| 17:10.51 | znf | bah, I forgot to add 'quick' to the disk part command |
| 17:10.52 | znf | >_< |
| 17:10.55 | Fisker | I don't recall Stanzilla |
| 17:11.11 | Fisker | The new logon shit in win8+ is like a program right? |
| 17:12.09 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 17:12.10 | znf | oh come the fuck on, this takes so long |
| 17:12.14 | Megalon | can just you boot into the logon and not have some fucking picture there |
| 17:12.16 | Stanzilla | znf: gimme the commands |
| 17:12.17 | Stanzilla | NOW |
| 17:12.18 | Megalon | i hat eit :s |
| 17:12.21 | znf | Stanzilla, shift+f10 |
| 17:12.27 | Fisker | Do you know what the shit is called Stanzilla ? |
| 17:12.27 | znf | during install |
| 17:12.28 | znf | diskpart |
| 17:12.39 | Fisker | And diskpart Stanzilla ? |
| 17:12.40 | Fisker | Pls |
| 17:12.47 | Stanzilla | Fisker: no i dont |
| 17:12.52 | Fisker | Damn |
| 17:12.55 | znf | create the Users directory on the Windows install disk |
| 17:13.02 | znf | whichever that volume is |
| 17:13.16 | znf | (do that before you run diskpart) |
| 17:13.20 | znf | I'm confusing you |
| 17:13.22 | znf | diskpart |
| 17:13.25 | znf | list volume |
| 17:13.27 | Fisker | Though I'd figure it you put it before starting the install the installer will just move it |
| 17:13.40 | znf | select volume OtherPartition |
| 17:13.49 | Fisker | I'd figure you need to do it after installation |
| 17:13.57 | znf | assign mount=J:\Users |
| 17:14.06 | znf | replace J with whatever your install target is |
| 17:14.36 | znf | I'm hoping that you don't |
| 17:14.42 | Fisker | Pretty sure you do |
| 17:15.43 | znf | else I'll have to use Audit Mode |
| 17:15.45 | znf | http://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/1964-users-folder-move-location-windows-10-a.html |
| 17:16.32 | znf | oh come the fuck on with the fs format |
| 17:17.15 | znf | ha, this cheap ass laptop has usb-c |
| 17:17.28 | Megalon | hey guys, i have this awesome idea for a reality tv show |
| 17:17.34 | Megalon | it's about this guy in it |
| 17:17.42 | Megalon | in some weird back ass country, like eastern europe |
| 17:17.59 | Megalon | everything he does, he fucks up in some mysterious way |
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| 17:18.50 | Megalon | always raging |
| 17:19.06 | Megalon | <3 |
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| 17:20.38 | nevcairiel | sounds like something i've seen before |
| 17:23.22 | znf | Megalon, I hate you... |
| 17:23.28 | znf | my pen drive just died |
| 17:25.20 | Megalon | i know that romanian vampire express their love through hate |
| 17:25.21 | Megalon | so <3 |
| 17:26.39 | znf | I'm not making this shit up. My pen drive literally died during setup |
| 17:27.07 | Megalon | lol |
| 17:27.21 | znf | ...and it was hot |
| 17:27.22 | znf | like, very hot |
| 17:27.23 | znf | O.o |
| 17:27.34 | Megalon | so it fried your usb port too |
| 17:29.45 | znf | and now the silly tool redownloads the iso |
| 17:29.52 | znf | I wonder if I get this latest update with this iso |
| 17:30.02 | znf | I think Stanzilla mentioned once that you get the latest updates when you use the media creation tool? |
| 17:30.32 | nevcairiel | not necessarily the very latest updates, but certainly a refreshed version |
| 17:31.22 | Stanzilla | ^ |
| 17:35.42 | nevcairiel | can we have anniversary final now? |
| 17:37.00 | Stanzilla | 16.07 |
| 17:37.19 | Stanzilla | no, that is not the 16th of july |
| 17:37.42 | nevcairiel | its july in the year 16, i'm aware |
| 17:37.54 | nevcairiel | so, next week? |
| 17:38.16 | Stanzilla | I'd say 2 |
| 17:38.25 | Stanzilla | by the rate they are pushing builds atm |
| 17:38.27 | Stanzilla | can't be that far |
| 17:38.42 | Stanzilla | they will just declare on of the insiders builds final then |
| 17:40.18 | nevcairiel | any big issues still? |
| 17:43.04 | nevcairiel | yay rain anbd cool air |
| 17:43.32 | Stanzilla | apps randomly stop responding apart from that, not much |
| 17:43.40 | Stanzilla | the known issues list is pretty small |
| 17:43.44 | znf | give rain, too :( |
| 17:43.47 | nevcairiel | metro apps? |
| 17:43.51 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 17:43.52 | nevcairiel | i dont use those besides calculator |
| 17:43.53 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 17:43.57 | Stanzilla | the start menu |
| 17:44.00 | Stanzilla | is a metro app |
| 17:44.06 | nevcairiel | oh well |
| 17:44.12 | znf | Start10 isn't :D |
| 17:44.30 | Stanzilla | they have some regression where the start menu takes ages to open /respond to clicks |
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| 17:44.34 | Stanzilla | but I havent encoutnered that |
| 17:44.57 | nevcairiel | some people have loads of start menu issues on live, and I have never had those |
| 17:44.58 | znf | I wanted to try that start menu in Win10 |
| 17:44.59 | nevcairiel | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:45.00 | Stanzilla | https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2016/06/23/announcing-windows-10-insider-preview-build-14372-for-pc-and-mobile/ < known issues for pc actually only 3 things |
| 17:45.01 | znf | but that didn't work out of rm |
| 17:45.15 | znf | me* |
| 17:45.17 | Stanzilla | and no one cares about edge |
| 17:45.23 | Stanzilla | so 2 :D |
| 17:45.42 | nevcairiel | man its really coming down outside |
| 17:45.47 | nevcairiel | i should go out and dance around |
| 17:45.49 | Stanzilla | I read an article on a german news site the other day |
| 17:45.56 | Stanzilla | and they google translated that blog |
| 17:45.59 | Stanzilla | and it said Microsoft Rand |
| 17:46.04 | nevcairiel | hahaha |
| 17:46.05 | Stanzilla | and I could not stop laughing |
| 17:47.10 | znf | so slow to create the media install... |
| 17:47.11 | znf | *sigh* |
| 17:47.47 | znf | install media, I guess |
| 17:49.03 | Stanzilla | well with so few open issues (you can see on feedback hub that it's not that many more than in the blog) they could just sign off rtm next week |
| 17:49.10 | Stanzilla | or early the week after |
| 17:49.22 | znf | Are these things usually universal? http://www.gearbest.com/hdd-ssd/pp_362315.html |
| 17:49.49 | nevcairiel | yes, the sizes are specified for backplates etc |
| 17:50.14 | znf | and only the front ornament is different, right? |
| 17:51.38 | znf | OH! God damn it. I kept pulling random mobs in Legion |
| 17:51.58 | znf | Didn't know why. I forgot I have that trinket that does a Blast to all enemies in front |
| 17:58.06 | nevcairiel | the icy one? |
| 17:58.09 | nevcairiel | i had that for a while |
| 17:58.31 | nevcairiel | wow its really coming down outside now |
| 17:58.44 | Stanzilla | giev |
| 17:58.50 | Stanzilla | I'm still melting |
| 18:00.51 | znf | nevcairiel, it says shadow damage though |
| 18:01.01 | znf | "Caged Horror" |
| 18:01.08 | nevcairiel | different one then |
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| 18:14.25 | znf | Fisker, yeah, the installer told me it will move stuff |
| 18:14.39 | Fisker | Rekt |
| 18:16.46 | znf | I'm tempted to buy a shitty SSD just for games |
| 18:42.12 | znf | Fisker, mkay, I did the sysprep thing |
| 18:50.02 | Ketho | why cant we have blizzard summer sale, 10% off overwatch maybe x) |
| 18:50.48 | Stanzilla | Ketho: can just support the pirats at https://www.g2a.com/overwatch-origins-edition-global.html |
| 18:53.27 | Ketho | ow totally forgot about g2a |
| 19:00.54 | Funkeh` | anyone know when this steam queue thing refreshes |
| 19:01.23 | Funkeh` | when it ticks over to the next day |
| 19:02.03 | Stanzilla | 7pm |
| 19:02.06 | Stanzilla | my time |
| 19:02.10 | Stanzilla | so 6 your time? |
| 19:02.24 | Funkeh` | hmm didn't refresh for me then |
| 19:02.37 | Funkeh` | I did it at lunch time |
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| 19:40.37 | Phixion | Gnarfoz: https://twitter.com/aeliasen/status/746191768106917889 |
| 19:57.31 | Stanzilla | http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/20745654682#1 |
| 19:57.39 | Stanzilla | that actually sounds good for the game |
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| 20:03.54 | nevcairiel | a one dps meta has always felt wrong |
| 20:08.07 | Stanzilla | yes |
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| 20:17.37 | quiescens | i don't know |
| 20:18.15 | quiescens | you don't want to make friendly buffs too weak either though |
| 20:26.50 | nevcairiel | if a player is there only for their buffs, said player like doesnt have all that much fun either |
| 20:30.57 | nevcairiel | like the healing monk a few seasons back, you were there only to passively heal the group |
| 20:31.04 | nevcairiel | you were so weak that you couldnt even smash in doors |
| 20:31.11 | quiescens | i would say buffs still need to be valuable |
| 20:31.13 | nevcairiel | which was ridicoulously silly |
| 20:31.22 | quiescens | but not have quite so many |
| 20:31.26 | Megalon | hey Stanzilla, could have used you today |
| 20:31.48 | nevcairiel | if a single player produces a 300% buff, thereby replacing 2 dpsers or so, thats just way too strong |
| 20:31.53 | Megalon | http://i.imgur.com/wyVyMJE.jpg bet you would have enjoyed helping 8) |
| 20:31.58 | quiescens | so that people don't have the incentive to set their skill loadout with nothing but buffs |
| 20:32.41 | nevcairiel | taring a roof at 35C sure must be fun |
| 20:32.56 | Megalon | it was the bottom slab |
| 20:32.59 | nevcairiel | well same deal |
| 20:33.00 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 20:33.03 | Megalon | and we started after 1900 :D |
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| 20:33.09 | Megalon | during the day, holy shit |
| 20:33.17 | nevcairiel | my father is having his roof done this year |
| 20:33.22 | Megalon | i'd rather go die if that was not scheduled in the evening |
| 20:33.25 | nevcairiel | am I lucky he is too old to attempt to do it himself |
| 20:33.30 | quiescens | it iz 5C at teh moment |
| 20:33.33 | quiescens | o.o |
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| 20:33.33 | nevcairiel | otherwise i need to help |
| 20:33.34 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 20:34.27 | nevcairiel | (its a flat roof, so tar paper and not roof tiles) |
| 20:35.39 | Megalon | flaming in rl |
| 20:35.43 | Megalon | is quite different then on the internet |
| 20:35.49 | Megalon | than |
| 20:36.37 | Stanzilla | Megalon: fuck no |
| 20:36.37 | nevcairiel | much hoter, too |
| 20:37.26 | Stanzilla | and nevcairiel I'm still undecided on how the optimal support/dps ratio would be for d3 |
| 20:37.26 | Megalon | i bet it was cooler than in your room stan :D |
| 20:37.30 | Stanzilla | dont think there is one solution |
| 20:37.37 | Stanzilla | ideally even 4 dps should work |
| 20:42.19 | Stanzilla | but so should 2dps 2supp |
| 20:46.21 | Semlar | what about 4 support |
| 20:46.54 | Stanzilla | I have no problem if you bring one more support because you lack suvivability |
| 20:47.04 | Stanzilla | but currently you bring a support because it means more dps for the group |
| 20:47.09 | Stanzilla | and that is the thing they want to fix |
| 20:47.18 | Stanzilla | which is really good |
| 20:47.30 | Stanzilla | a support should never give you more dps than a full dps player |
| 20:47.33 | nevcairiel | yeah support should not buff more dps then a pure dpser would bring, because then the answer is always the supporter |
| 20:47.38 | Stanzilla | yup |
| 20:47.38 | nevcairiel | easier to coordinate and more dps to boot |
| 20:48.08 | Stanzilla | and apart from a few support specs, the most were super boring |
| 20:48.10 | nevcairiel | reducing healing and CC/pulling in the same go should be interesting |
| 20:48.16 | Stanzilla | I had fun as heal monk and pull barb but that's about it |
| 20:48.24 | nevcairiel | i found heal monk rather boring |
| 20:48.53 | Stanzilla | I liked it, was kinda reverse dps, trying to keep everyone up while balancing your spririt spend between heals and pulling |
| 20:49.05 | Stanzilla | didnt like having to craft tons of gear though |
| 20:49.15 | Stanzilla | bounties are not my thing |
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| 20:58.45 | Stanzilla | wonder what they will do against the mass pulling |
| 20:59.37 | Stanzilla | maybe just mass DR |
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| 23:07.18 | Stanzilla | touches Kesava |
| 23:07.57 | Kesava | hm yes |
| 23:08.46 | Megalon | doners Kesava |
| 23:12.55 | Stanzilla | giev döner, nau |
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| 23:32.43 | Megalon | just had a big doner |
| 23:32.59 | Megalon | oh, when you open the locked doors in the whitered sarumar training thing |
| 23:33.14 | Megalon | you also have to have enough left after killing the named to loot the chest |
| 23:33.21 | Megalon | opening the door isn't enough :C |
| 23:35.40 | Stanzilla | I just went to Gul'dans room |
| 23:35.48 | Stanzilla | but it's not there yet, so I fell to my death |
