IRC log for #wowace on 20160618

00:19.56znfKesava, do lazyplates in knp style
00:29.51Semlarwow
00:30.42Semlarare you seeing kesava behind my back
00:39.40Kesava.........................
00:39.43Kesava...... mt
00:39.48Kesava(. is my ptt key)
00:41.07quiescens.
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00:51.14Kesavaif i was going to do that i'd just make an ouf layout
00:51.30Stanzillanew legion build
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01:28.10StanzillaWe actually do have a pending Energy Twister/Twisted Sword change coming. We have identified an issue that was preventing the cap of 8 Twisters on Twisted Sword from taking effect. TLDR; The change to Twisted Sword in 2.4.1 to a cap of 8 never really stuck.
01:28.12Stanzillalol²
01:38.41Kesavahttps://youtu.be/Y0mdf8dBId4#t=49m05s
01:38.52Kesavait's not just me who hears this line slightly wrong, right?
01:39.14quiescenshow hard could that bonus have been
01:39.30quiescenslike, if x > 8 then x = 8
01:39.34quiescenso.o
01:40.36Stanzillayeah
01:40.44Stanzillaone of the two devs probably fucked up
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02:48.35Kesavaum, is the arcway -supposed- to be mythic only?
02:49.15Kesavait is indeed
02:49.16Kesavahow odd
02:50.17Kesavai never got to do them because of huge queues
02:50.18Kesavabah
02:52.56Stanzillayes
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04:47.52Stanzilla@h0x0d: Windows "decided to move to a new build language, codename Concord" and "seen up to 100X speedup for Windows builds" https://t.co/yP3MEkBts3
04:53.37quiescensmoo
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06:53.40Funkeh`http://arstechnica.co.uk/information-technology/2016/06/microsoft-windows-oem-crapware-removal-tool/
06:53.46Funkeh`yaaaas
07:08.33nevcairielKesava: the huge queues is why it was turned mythic only really, having a normal and heroic dungeon gated behind an unlock is bad for queue times, not to mention that by the time you did quest through suramar, you dont need any normal dungeons anymore, and probably dont e ven need heroic anymore either (gear wise)
07:18.48Kesavayeees but i'm only ilvl 813. I don't know if that's good enough to tank mythics.
07:18.54Kesavai have to be all socially awkward now.
07:19.33Kesava(i expect it isn't, i didn't do many dungeons. i just relied on that bug where that one mob dropped all the 810 world drops for me)
07:21.12Kesava(https://i.imgur.com/PGjYG34.png)
07:21.57Semlarare you loot hacking again
07:23.09Kesavanot since last time!
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07:29.52Fiskerso nevcairiel
07:30.00Fiskerwhy is that german shop all like @We don\t even have it_@
07:30.05Fiskeralso stupid keyboard
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07:49.04nevcairielKesava: no its not enough for mythics
07:49.26Kesava:<
07:49.52nevcairielwith a proper coordinated group you might survive it, but a PUG isnt going to appreciate having to work so much harder
07:50.16KesavaIndeed
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09:11.47Megalondon't worry guys, your sorrows have an end, I am here 8)
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11:22.58FiskerI'm gonna miss nevcairiel
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11:24.57Megalonit was nice knowing him
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14:17.48Stanzillaola
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14:55.11Megalonlol, 4x 0.5l beer 48€
14:55.18Megalonmusst be awesome to be at the em :o
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16:40.56pompyhttp://www.neowin.net/news/no-mans-sky-developer-ends-secret-stupid-legal-battle-over-the-name-of-the-game lol
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16:54.03Megalonisn't it awesome that you can copyrightpatentwhatever a word and sure anyone who uses it
16:54.09Megalonsue :O
16:56.29pompyiknorite
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16:59.15StanzillaMegalon: that's wiesn bier levels
17:00.59Megalonyou pay 24€ for a maß there? :D
17:01.17Megalonhttps://www.tripadvisor.de/Restaurant_Review-g187147-d2253468-Reviews-Le_Madrigal-Paris_Ile_de_France.html#photos;geo=187147&detail=2253468
17:01.32Megalonhaha, seems like a nice place
17:05.02Stanzillano, 12 I think this year
17:05.45Megalonhttp://i.imgur.com/2PAGKAA.jpg a friend on book of faces
17:06.14Megaloni'd open a pub too if i could charge like that :P
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17:40.38quiescensmoo~
17:49.02znffinally seen warcraft
17:49.05znfit was cool and everything
17:49.08znfbut... that ending :-/
17:53.22Fiskeryou wanna fight?
17:54.29znfKind of weird about the inconsistencies of the lore we knew vs. the lore of the movie
18:00.38FiskerWhy do you want to fight znf ?
18:01.11znfWhy wouldn't I want to?
18:02.12znfThis article or section contains information and lore exclusive to the Warcraft film universe, which is considered to be separate from the main Warcraft universe canon.
18:02.14znfWhy? :-(
18:04.20KalrothFisker: https://www.power.dk/pc-og-tilbehor/datakomponenter/grafikkort-gpu/asus-strix-geforce-gtx-1080-oc-8gb/p-384211/ we shall see if that date holds!
18:04.26nevcairielbecause it is znf
18:05.30nevcairielit was clear from the beginning that its not part of the main universe for film making reasons
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18:15.19znfkicks Fisker in the butt
18:16.59Kalrothdont kick the baby!
18:23.47Gnarfozto be part of the main universe, Stormwind would have to be destroyed :D
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18:24.09Gnarfoz(among other issues)
18:25.34Myrroddin@Torhal I think the packager is broken again. also wowace forums are being spammed again :(
18:27.47Myrroddinmy moderator privs are super non-effective vs forum spam :-P
18:34.41Gnarfozbooo: The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck.  The bugcheck was: 0x00000119 (0x0000000000000001, 0x00000000001eb6de, 0x00000000001eb6fd, 0xffffe001fe96a3a0).
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18:41.25nevcairielbugchecks are no fun
18:43.36Gnarfoznot the first time, either - it's VIDEO_SCHEDULER_INTERNAL_ERROR
18:44.06Gnarfoz(second time, I think, the first time was also quite recent... maybe current nvidia driver issue)
18:45.07GnarfozI had a fullscreen video open/paused on one screen for a couple of hours... wonder if that's related
18:46.07MyrroddinI've seen nVidia driver failure by keeping a paused video open for a few hours. Windows 10 (and 7) didn't like that
18:47.01Gnarfozthat's an oddly specific coincidence, I guess that is the problem, then
18:47.13Myrroddinspeaking of bugs, I found Bugger by Phanx generates an error on the beta. going to see if BugSack does something similar
18:47.55Gnarfozif you find it to not do the same, better not report it, she'll likely just yell at you. :P
18:48.36MyrroddinGnarfoz, based on limited testing, the basic nVidia card driver that ships with Windows doesn't have the corruption. seems to be the full driver
18:49.13Myrroddinha ha I am not afeared of Phanx and her claws of kittiness
18:50.17Myrroddinmight be because i spent several hours helping her test her dual box addon
18:52.14Gnarfozis the "basic driver" really anything else than the regular one, just older?
18:53.16Myrroddinthe basic isn't nearly as fast, doesn't support current hardware that well, and totally flakes out on advanced features like stereoscopic vision, or having more than one monitor
18:53.44Gnarfoz3d vision is a separate thing to install even with the "full driver"
18:54.18Gnarfoz(I haven't tried the other things, I think)
18:54.37Gnarfozunrelated: http://deathbulge.com/images/comics/347.jpg
18:54.41Myrroddinyeah, i leave 3dvision off most of the time. but since i have two monitors, i must use the full version or i can't see anything on the second screen, and the first screen gets weird
18:55.27Gnarfoz3dvision and Geforce experience are the things I never install, yeah
18:56.09Myrroddini do wish there was a 64 bit version of geforce experience. kind of silly having only a 32 bit version
18:56.45Gnarfozit's not like it makes a noticeable difference
18:57.09Myrroddinmaybe not. but it annoys me LOL
18:57.27Gnarfozcon-sis-ten-cy!
18:58.08Gnarfozget an Itanium and an IA64 version of Windows, or an DEC Alpha and an Alpha version of Windows :D
18:58.19Gnarfoz...and then turn off the software emulators in those :P
18:58.21Myrroddinwhat really bothers me no end is the mere existence of 32 bit versions of windows. we haven't had hardware that was 32 bit in a dozen years. WTH, microsoft??
18:58.24Gnarfozta-da: 64-bit only OS
18:59.56Myrroddinbrb. must consume liquid beverage refreshment
19:00.38Gnarfozyou maybe didn't, but clearly, there's still platforms out there that are 32-bit
19:01.04TorhalMyrroddin: Which project?
19:01.05Gnarfozmy dad's tablet for example, and that came with Windows 8 and is now running Windows 10
19:02.51Gnarfozhmm, parameter 1 was "0x1: The driver has reported an invalid fence ID."
19:02.57Gnarfozwhatever the hell that means. :P
19:03.50Gnarfozinteresting: "Windows 8 with Connected Standby (S0ix baby) support only currently exists in a 32-bit version, [...]"
19:04.19Gnarfozfrom a review of the SoC in that tablet, Atom Z2760
19:05.11Gnarfozoh, it's actually a review of that exact tablet, hah
19:05.34Myrroddin@Torhal seems anything in the last 3 hours. I committed a new version of LibUtilities-1.0
19:07.02MyrroddinGnarfoz yeah, but that's on the software devs, not MS. apple, linux, unix, solaris, etc are all 64 bit and thus forced the issue. MS should follow suit
19:07.15Gnarfozwhy?
19:07.33Gnarfoz"are all 64 bit" is nonsense, too, and Linux isn't even an OS
19:08.07Myrroddinspeed, stability, more RAM access, newer technologies. a whole host of reasons to rewrite old stuff for 64 bit
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19:08.18Gnarfozfirst two: bogus
19:08.23Gnarfoz4th, questionable
19:08.39Gnarfozsummary: "it's newer, I want it"
19:08.47Gnarfozunless a relevant CPU vendor decides to remove 32-bit support, I don't see it happening.
19:09.20Myrroddinoo that would be interesting indeed. see if intel or amd cut out 32 bit. wow. hmmmm
19:09.45Myrroddinmight reduce production and manufacturing headaches. maybe
19:10.03Gnarfozwell, Intel already did once, and it didn't really catch on.
19:10.18Gnarfoz(and once before with 32-bit, and that didn't catch on then, either)
19:11.32GnarfozIA64 is dead, iAPX432 never got anywhere
19:11.48Myrroddini understand not cutting legacy support for a few years after a bit bump. but 12 years after the fact?
19:13.02Myrroddinactually, it may even be longer. i think i got my first gen athlon64 around 2000 or so
19:13.02Gnarfozwhy would they? x86-64 is intentionally set up so that you can have both easily
19:13.26Gnarfoz(because AMD saw how well IA64 worked. :D)
19:13.38Myrroddintrue. but i'm not really knocking the chip architecture. just software vendors heh heh heh
19:20.17Myrroddinwow, i seem to have forgotten how to use IRC it's been so long. apparently i can't just type a reply in the Messages window like i can in this window
19:20.54Myrroddin"can't use this command in this window" for anything i write
19:25.22GnarfozI'm not quite sure what "the messages window" is
19:25.28Gnarfozthat depends on your IRC client ^^
19:25.59MyrroddinGnarfoz, it's the whisper window. and i'm just using freenode in my browser
19:26.12Gnarfozugh, so some webchat thing?
19:26.25Gnarfozthat's bad and you should feel bad. :P
19:26.47Myrroddinyep. i know you can reply in the whisper/message window. just can't remember how
19:26.51Gnarfoz(honestly: no idea how they have that set up these days. maybe it's totally tolerable. :P)
19:26.58Myrroddindammit, now i feel bad. thanks a lot!
19:27.26Gnarfozand a final re: 32/64 bit: when 32-bit systems are not sold anymore, I'm sure a (good) while later, software makers will stop making 32-bit versions (or at least make 64 the default)... but as recently as 2013, Intel has sold non-64-bit CPUs
19:27.43Gnarfozs/sold/released new/
19:27.47GnarfozGAH
19:28.49Gnarfoz"Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know, I'll use regular expressions." Now they have two problems." --jwz
19:29.38Myrroddinwoot, i learned something. well, a few things. i learned more about SVN keywords, learned stuff about CPUs. go me!
19:35.55Stanzillasvn keywords
19:35.58Stanzillais it 2004 again
19:41.24Myrroddini hope not!
19:44.04GnarfozI wish it were :D
19:44.25Stanzillanah man
19:44.55Myrroddingah, vanilla WoW came out in 2004. no chocolate, no fudge, no caramel. just vanilla
19:47.21StanzillaI'd rather travel to the future than the past
19:47.27Stanzillapast only to kill off some people maybe
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19:50.08Gnarfozhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/64-bit_computing#Software_availability says OS X runs 32-bit programs as well - might be outdated
19:50.26Ironiitraveling few weeks to the past would be awesome, pick up a few lottery tickets and you don't have to worry about money at all
19:50.42Gnarfozhaven't you seen Back to the Future?! :D
19:50.59Ironiiactually no, never :(
19:51.12Gnarfoznow you know what to do w ith the rest of the evening
19:51.20MyrroddinYou are not thinking fourth dimensionally, Marty!
19:51.36GnarfozGreat Scott D:
19:51.48Ironiisomehow i managed to grow up without ever watching back to the future, any star wars or any star trek movies
19:52.10Myrroddinwhere's an IRC mod? we need to boot Ironii, stat!
19:52.12Gnarfoznow there's a reason to travel back in time if there ever was one. :P
19:53.12Myrroddinwait, I wonder if Ironii has seen the Lord of the Rings trilogy?
19:53.19Ironiii tried to watch one of the star wars movies a few years back but it just looked too awful to watch
19:53.35Ironiiy!
19:53.47Myrroddingood heavens. are you HUMAN?
19:53.55znfI've seen some of the back to the future movies
19:53.57znfno idea which
19:54.02znfbut I haven't seen any star wars movie
19:54.21Myrroddinthere are support groups for people like you :D
19:54.49Gnarfozinteresting, you can disable/uninstall WoW64 on some more recent Windows server versions
19:55.01znfThe universe of Star Wars just isn't that appealing to me
19:55.08znfI haven't seen the original star treks either
19:55.09Myrroddinof course, i tease. but it's like finding someone who has never seen a 007 movie. and i even know one such person. really shocking, actually
19:55.10Gnarfozso your "64-bit only Windows" already exists, Myrroddin! :D
19:55.27znfI haven't watched 007 movies, either
19:55.52Gnarfoz(apparently that's been possible since Server 2008 R2, so, quite a while already :O)
19:56.10Ironiiwhen you are used to current special effects, old scifi movies/series just look too bad to be enjoyable :/
19:56.16znfyup
19:56.23znfI watched TNG just because they remastered it on Blu-ray
19:56.39Myrroddini know you can uninstall the wow64 emulator. i leave it in for my GOG games
19:56.48znfbtw
19:56.54znfwhen the hell did G2A.com get so big?
19:57.06znfThey had an ad before the Warcraft movie today at the cinema
19:57.08znfI was WTF?
19:57.10Gnarfozuhm, you can only do that on Server, though.
19:57.26Ironii~only old stuff i enjoy is buffy the vampire slayer / angel
19:57.26purlokay, Ironii
19:57.36Ironiiand thats mostly becouse i watched it when i was younger
19:57.41znfpurl, forget last
19:57.42purli forgot last, znf
19:57.54Myrroddingnarfoz, yes, but default. unless you slipstream your windows install and never have it on the disc in the first place
19:58.05znfpurl, forget only old stuff i enjoy
19:58.05purli forgot only old stuff i enjoy, znf
19:58.15znfwonder wth was "last"...
19:58.17Gnarfozugh, I thought that crap stopped existing when versions newer than XP came out.
19:58.54Gnarfozso many broken installs by people who got their hands on stuff like nlite and its siblings/predecessors
19:59.08Myrroddini don't bother slipstreaming windows 10. i'm using the tech preview edition, so it updates way too often
19:59.25znfCan you even slipstream Win10?
19:59.28znfAlso, why would you?
19:59.34Gnarfoztech preview? do you mean Insider
19:59.51Myrroddinyes, and i don't have a good (or bad, or any) reason why you would
19:59.58Myrroddinyes, insider. fast ring
19:59.59Gnarfozbad reasons are the best
20:00.00Gnarfoz:D
20:00.12Gnarfoz"this is totally a bad idea, let's do it"
20:00.13Gnarfoz:D
20:00.25MyrroddinLOL yep, sounds legit
20:00.52Myrroddinbut you can slipstream win10.
20:01.24znf*shrug* why would you, anyway? :D
20:01.32Myrroddin^^ exactly
20:02.18Myrroddinunless you are doing a fresh install and wanted all the patches built in, that's about the only reason i can guess. maybe stream in your drivers
20:02.45znfthe only driver the matter is the Video one, anyway
20:02.53znfand there's no point in slipstreaming it, it updates too often
20:03.01Myrroddinsince MS gives away a current ISO of the disc, the first reason is kind of moot
20:05.14Myrroddini suppose the only other reason i can imagine is cutting stuff out of win10, rather than streaming stuff in
20:05.54Myrroddinbut then ms sends out a patch, and it undoes all your work, making the effort wasteful and pointless
20:07.55znfyou can just uninstall components anyway
20:07.56znfso, meh
20:08.49Gnarfozuninstalls znf
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20:12.16StanzillaGnarfoz: os x 32bit was killed off a few versions ago, even the bnet app was converted to 64bit last week!
20:12.27Stanzillaalso WTF Ironii
20:12.35StanzillaGO WATCH BTTF now!
20:12.35FiskerHey Stanzilla
20:12.59Stanzillahey Fisker
20:13.01IroniiStanzilla no.
20:13.11StanzillaIronii: yes
20:13.22StanzillaI'm doing ashran achievements
20:13.28Stanzillacan you imagine how much fun I'm having?
20:13.49znfit annoys me that the chrome pdf viewer doesn't have a way to read 2 pages on screen at the same time
20:26.36GnarfozStanzilla: that page I linked doesn't read like "a few versions ago". it says there wasn't a 32-bit OS X kernel anymore, but 64-bit windows also doesn't have one and still runs 32-bit programs.
20:27.06GnarfozStanzilla: I wanted to do Ashran rep, tried for an hour, gained like 2000 rep... now I'm unmotivated to continue. :P
20:27.19znfI think I'm actually exalted with that
20:27.20Stanzillaashran rep is stupid easy
20:27.23Stanzillathe achievements are shit
20:27.29znftook maybe 2 days of playing on/off
20:27.50Stanzillafor rep you justh ave to loot a lot
20:28.03Gnarfozloot what, though
20:28.10GnarfozI just killed NPCs
20:28.19TorhalGnarfoz: OS X runs 32-bit programs just fine. Hasn't had a 32-bit version of the OS in over half a decade, though.
20:28.24znfif I remember corectly, you get honor & rep when you turn in fragments
20:28.34Gnarfozyeah, that's what I did
20:28.44GnarfozTorhal: right, that's what I meant (and the page says).
20:29.06TorhalWhat OS X does not run, though, are applications compiled for PPC - they removed that functionality in 2011 IIRC.
20:29.21Gnarfoz(to recap: this was about programs not being 64 bit, and the claim was that "Apple" was "all 64 bit" already, like many others - which just isn't true)
20:32.57Myrroddinboth mac os and windows use 32 bit software emulation. true about no powerPC compatibility anymore.
20:33.25Myrroddinbut that isn't really a loss
20:34.47TorhalIt was until Blizzard updated their classic games!
20:34.53TorhalSuddenly, I couldn't play WC3!
20:35.11TorhalOnlytook them 4 years... :D
20:35.41Myrroddinegads! thank the light for that. and for places like gog.com who update stuff all the way back to DOS so it runs on modern computers
20:36.50StanzillaGnarfoz: body parts, you can turn them in for huge amount of rep
20:37.03GnarfozStanzilla: yeah, I read that on wowhead
20:37.06Stanzillait's like 1100 per item
20:37.09Gnarfoz2500
20:37.12Stanzillaok
20:37.12Gnarfozbut... they're group loot
20:37.18GnarfozI need to win them oO
20:37.27Stanzillamost groups are free for all
20:37.41Gnarfozyou make it sound like I have a choice? do I?
20:37.50GnarfozI thought it just forces me into "the group"
20:38.09MyrroddinTorhal, i'm guilty again. updating addons and not actually playing the game. sheesh
20:38.12Gnarfoz(it might show that I know basically knothing about Ashran or PVP)
20:39.12TorhalHeh
20:39.37StanzillaGnarfoz: no choice but really most groups are set to free for all
20:39.44Stanzillaif not, ask and the leader might change it
20:39.55Gnarfozhm, I see
20:40.24Gnarfozso basically get myself murdered over and order, trying to loot enemies, and then run back to base really fast if I get lucky and find a brain or ear or whatever?
20:42.48znfyeah
20:42.52znfmeanwhile just collect artifacts :P
20:43.20Gnarfozfrom NPCs?
20:43.34Gnarfozhm no, that can't work, they're not in the same place as players most of the time
20:43.40Myrroddinthis is kind of bizarre to me. LibUtilities-1.0 has almost 300 downloads, yet there are no apparent addons using it. curiousity? I'm using it with an unfinished, unreleased addon, but duh, i'm the author
20:43.44znfno, from players >_<
20:44.14Gnarfozhm, mostly just looted empty corpses, but that might have been because of group loot
20:44.35Stanzillajust loot what you can and play along
20:44.49znfwouldn't hurt you to actually participate :D
20:44.55Stanzillayeah
20:45.04Stanzillanot like me
20:45.08Stanzillajust standing here
20:45.08Stanzillahttp://i.imgur.com/HqvG8kM.jpg
20:45.15Stanzillawaiting for the event and boss to become current
20:46.00znfthis shit is stuck http://i.imgur.com/kCdx9Td.jpg
20:48.50GnarfozI also of course have no idea how to read the progress thing at the top. if I join, can I just stay in there forever? or do "matches" really take >1 hour
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20:49.28Gnarfozit sometimes shows enemies killed, sometimes other things, sometimes there's talk of bosses... :D perhaps I should read a more general Ashran guide some day.
20:49.51Gnarfozfunnily enough, I had various bonus objectives at half or more completion, from when I was last in there... 1.5 years ago.
20:49.56znfI haven't played in so long that I pretty much forgot everything about Ashran
20:50.05znfalso, they've probably changed it around so many times...
20:51.01znfre:legion - not a big fan of the whole class hall
20:53.10znfbut I guess people screaming for "class quests" won this time :P
20:54.11StanzillaGnarfoz: you can stay as long as you want
20:54.16Stanzillaevery x min a new event starts
20:56.58Stanzillaoh also alliance is horrible in ashran
20:57.03Stanzillaas with almost every pvp really
20:58.55GnarfozI'm convinced that's jus perception bias.
20:59.29Stanzillanah
20:59.38StanzillaI did most of the achievements on horde because of that
20:59.56Stanzillajust switched for that one because I already had more progress on the alliance char
21:00.15Stanzillabut I've already been waiting way too long here, probably could have gotten it on horde already
21:03.46znfwell...
21:03.50znfmaybe in your battlegroup...
21:04.14znfon my battlegroup, back when we were doing ashran, I think I managed to actually complete the pvp event just once a day
21:04.16znfrest is alliance
21:04.21Myrroddinwell, i ought to do a bottle recycling run. and finally go see that warcraft movie that china is making profitable
21:08.02znfkind of annoying about the movie end :-/
21:08.21znfthe warcraft universe is too big to fit in just one tiny movie
21:10.13Myrroddinso i expect. but this is a precursor to warcraft: orcs and humans. and i'm fine with that. so long as there is an extended cut on dvd/blu-ray
21:10.37znfI've been reading something about a 40 minutes longer cut
21:10.45znfstill...
21:10.55znfalso, was a bit confused about the story not following the game lore
21:11.24Myrroddinznf just because *you* are not the hero of azeroth... sheesh! ha ha
21:11.47znfnah, the director changed stuff around for the movie because it was better
21:11.49znf*shrug*
21:13.20Myrroddindon't tell me. i barely remember that old lore anyway. never did finish the original game. come to think of it, i've actually only played every second game in the franchise o.O
21:14.06StanzillaI didn't like the movie
21:14.14znfI enjoyed it
21:14.22znfI just felt hungry at the end of it, hungry for more :P
21:14.31Myrroddinmore cowbell?
21:14.36znfdidn't like the romance thingie
21:14.44znfI couldn't recall if that has any lore based part
21:14.55StanzillaI have a hard time enjoying movies, tv shows are so much of a better fit to tell extensive stories
21:15.02Stanzillaeverything in movies moves too fast
21:15.40Stanzillaso story feels rushed and incomplete
21:16.08Myrroddini'll let you know later on my youtube channel what i thought about it
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21:20.53znfyeah, even the part where Medivh said he was Garona's father... for the people who don't know from the lore, that wasn't very clear in the movie :P
21:23.16znfStanzilla, explain me what are people talking in /2 on beta
21:23.25znfsilly quest that requires crafting some BoE epics?
21:23.29Stanzillawhy would I know what randoms on /2 in beta are talking about
21:24.06znfsome bracer quest...?
21:24.20znfbracers
21:25.04Stanzilladunno
21:25.13Stanzillaand him being her father would be weird
21:26.41znfhttp://i.imgur.com/xoExcWr.png
21:27.23Stanzillayup switched to horde, had 2 mobs to kill here, done in 10min :D
21:27.40Stanzillaznf: yes but only in the movie storyline
21:27.45znfyes
21:28.18znfwhich is... weird as fuck
21:28.26znfas the game lore establishes her as her lover :D
21:29.41znfc'mon beta servers, stop crashing :(
21:30.41znfmaybe I can hit 110 tonight
21:32.01znfStanzilla, is there a fixed Chatter?
21:32.12znfoh wait
21:32.14znfwhy am I using chatter
21:32.29Stanzillawfm
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21:33.34znfI forgot I switched to BasicChatMods ages ago
21:33.38Stanzilladon't think I changed anything for legion
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21:36.16znfStanzilla, well, chatter throws an error in beta
21:36.18znfsomething about some buttons
21:36.52Stanzillathanks for the detailed bug report
21:37.34znfhttp://www.wowace.com/paste/
21:38.36Stanzillathat would be a way to report such errors, yes znf
21:38.57znfwell, I wasn't logged on, you dick
21:41.17znfwhat's there? http://i.imgur.com/imBDkqq.jpg
21:53.23Stanzillaam I the only person with custom chat channel colors from the Material color palette?
21:56.55znf...yes?
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22:17.12znfhttp://i.imgur.com/fsEu5PK.png
22:17.14znfchill, dude
22:19.46nevcairielznf:  the bracers quest is for the obliterum forge
22:22.54znfah
22:41.04znfI'm jelly that balance druids get a scythe
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23:38.38znfhttp://legion.wowhead.com/quest=42590/moozys-reunion
23:38.41znfoh my fucking god this quest
23:38.46znfI'm going to break the monitor

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