IRC log for #wowace on 20160509

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01:55.51znfhttp://i.imgur.com/7IUdCMI.png
01:55.52znfcome the fuck on
01:56.01znffuck this, I'll just go to sleep. nothing works
02:18.27Gnarfozprobably because btrfs is data eating shite
02:37.59znfshit worked
02:38.03znfubuntu's plymouth sucked
03:20.10quiescensthey should make the ancient item drop chance scale with torment/rift level
03:20.19quiescenso.o
03:20.46quiescensbetter chance of usable items instead of just more itams
03:22.19quiescensby the time people are doing level 100 rifts, non ancient drops probably aren't as useful for them
03:35.40Torhal[17:58:44]  <Stanzilla>Zeldo: can you hide the "tag repository" link in the side menu when the repo is git? <-- And Mercurial.
03:36.03TorhalI'd actually forgotten about that until that guy in the forums, or I would have already asked him :D
03:47.55StanzillaTorhal: yea that was what reminded me
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09:36.41znfWho ever had the great idea to rename eth0/1 by default in systemd?
09:37.05Megalonseems like something you'd do
09:37.13znfbut it wasn't me!
09:37.21znfit was those crazy systemd people
09:37.34winkno
09:37.43winkfor once, it's not their fault
09:38.05winkat least it wasn't their idea.
09:38.16znfwho's idea was it?
09:38.22znfthe fuckin' names are retarded
09:38.32winkhttps://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/
09:38.34znfever tried to type enp3s0f1 while drunk?
09:38.56Megalonyou just did
09:39.04znfI copy/pasted it now
09:40.53winkwhile you're at it you can also complain about ifconfig being deprecated
09:41.07winkor that it's called iptables nowadays
09:41.54winkthat link btw has systemd in it. but the change is from udev. so maybe all the systemd people were involved. but I do think it is older. at lteast the ideas
09:43.52znfI don't mind ifconfig
09:43.59znfip2 is much better imho
09:44.22znfbut I've no idea what you mean by iptables
09:51.05winkznf: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipchains
09:51.35silentiumtbh I wouldn't actually want to mess with my network config while too drunk to type properly
09:51.37znfipchains is old O.o
09:52.00winkso am I, because apparently I used it
09:52.21znfI did, too, when I was 14
09:54.09winkthat's why I wrote nowadays :P
09:55.18nevcairielsilentium: pff i've setup entire servers entirely drunk
09:55.44Phixionnice
10:01.19znfwink, I thought you meant that they renamed iptables...
10:01.28winkwell, nope.
10:01.43winkthey also didn't 'rename' your interfaces
10:01.52winkthey changed the naming algorithm/scheme
10:02.03winkso it's not strictlyu eth0 -> enXps0
10:02.06znfI know
10:02.10winkso yeha.. :P
10:02.26znfenXpsY would be simple
10:02.29znfenp3s0f1 is not
10:02.36znfwhere the fuck is enp1 anyway?
10:02.37Phixionit's logic
10:02.46Phixionhttps://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/master/src/udev/udev-builtin-net_id.c#L20
10:03.02nevcairielif you ever had your eth0 change to eth1 for some obscure reason and your entire system going fubar due to that, you would love the change =p
10:03.03znfthat doesn't explain why enp1 is not there
10:03.12znfnevcairiel, I just learned to use udev rules
10:03.15znf"back in my day"
10:03.23nevcairielback in my day we didnt have udev
10:03.26nevcairielkids these days
10:03.33znfalso, I had less issues with eth0 renaming around
10:03.56nevcairielthese names pose no issues, you just need to check what your NIC uses as a name and be done?
10:04.24znf"back in the day", moving a HDD with a linux install from a box to another actually meant you could expect it to boot! :D
10:04.31znf(with network connectivity, that is)
10:04.43quiescensit would still boot today o.o
10:04.44nevcairielthat is one case where the eth0->1 stuff frequently happened to me
10:04.54znfnevcairiel, that's because of udev, though
10:05.07nevcairielthat was long before udev
10:05.09nevcairieldont you listen
10:05.16znfnever had that happen before udev rules
10:05.28quiescensarguably it was less likely to work way back then, before modules were commonplace for nics
10:05.33nevcairielin any case those new names are strictly specified
10:05.35quiescensand they didn't autodetect
10:05.36znfgranted, I didn't had the pleasure of using actual server hardware in those times, so most of my boxes just had one ethernet port
10:05.42quiescensand they didn't even come with all modules compiled
10:05.46nevcairieland enp3s0f1 clearly identifies it based on the hardware
10:06.15nevcairielbus 3, slot 0, function 1
10:06.57znfI feel like it doesn't really present useful information to the user. Like, what good does it do to me that it's bus3, slot0
10:07.00znfwth is a function anyway?
10:07.14nevcairielmulti-port devices etc
10:07.36nevcairielor multi-function devices in case of a southbridge or something
10:08.06nevcairieland its not meant to be useful to a user, its meant to be consistent for the configuration =p
10:08.43nevcairielmost distros let you turn the new naming off if you really want to
10:08.47nevcairielso either accept or turn off
10:08.55znfI wonder what happens with a USB device.
10:09.22znfLet's say you have an usb-ethernet adapter. If you unplug/replug, would it get the same name?
10:09.37nevcairielif you plug it into the same usb slot, yes
10:09.43nevcairieldifferent slot, different name
10:14.11Stanzillazwieback for  breakfast \o/
10:15.08Phixion> breakfast
10:15.33znfso just bread, Stanzilla?
10:16.18Stanzillano, zwieback is different
10:17.42nevcairielyou like zwieback? o.o
10:17.53Stanzillayeah especially the one with coconut
10:17.59nevcairielits just dry and tasteless
10:18.27Stanzillacoconut fixes both :D
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11:54.12znfhttp://netdata.firehol.org/
11:54.14znfthis shit is pretty as fuck
12:30.04Fiskerso nevcairiel
12:30.16FiskerFounders Edition is $100 more expensive nvidia produced exactly the same card
12:30.53nevcairielis there any new info?
12:31.02Fiskery
12:31.15Fiskerhttp://www.gamersnexus.net/news-pc/2427-difference-between-gtx-1080-founders-edition-and-reference
12:31.56FiskerSo just looks like a way to not piss off their partners by releasing first
12:32.30Phixionhey Fisker
12:32.35Fiskerhey Phixion
12:32.35Fiskeri
12:32.38Phixionbeen missing you
12:34.48nevcairielFisker: calling it $100 more expensive is kinda misleading though, their cooler and  materials arent exactly flimsy, so all they do is leave room for AIBs to build cheaper models
12:35.01FiskerYeah
12:35.12FiskerBut why MSRP of $599 then?
12:35.34FiskerThe term loses all meaning if they don't keep it themselves
12:35.57nevcairielthat is assuming this info is accurate
12:36.13FiskerWhy wouldn't it be?
12:36.24nevcairielbecause posting any kind of info earlier gets readers
12:36.34nevcairielnevermind concrete confirmation =p
12:37.23nevcairielwe'll hopefully find out soon enough as things show up in shops and the NDA lifts
12:38.01FiskerDon't you think he would get on Nvidia's shit list?
12:38.16FiskerAnd the review sample they got didn't seem to say founder's edition either
12:38.24Fiskerand it doesn't make sense to make two versions if they only  get one
12:38.25Fiskerimo
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13:16.21Stanzillaqueues Final Countdown http://i.imgur.com/1PxG9Ln.jpg
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13:50.06Stanzillading ding
13:50.39nevcairielcasual-zille needs a re-adjustment of his internal dictionary
13:50.46nevcairielcasual-zilla*
13:55.31winkfor?
13:56.48Stanzilla:D
13:56.50Stanzillahttps://youtu.be/bOprrLuIHGE
14:51.53quiescensnerf stan zilla
14:51.54quiescenso.o
14:54.22Phixionspanks quiescens
14:54.32quiescensdies.
14:54.45Phixionrevives quiescens to spank again
14:55.26quiescens):
14:59.35Torhalspanks Phixion with quiescens.
14:59.39quiescensdies.
15:00.56MegalonTorhals Phixion
15:02.07Phixion1 up
15:04.00Torhaldiagnoses quiescens with Megalonomania.
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15:15.27IndustrialHi.
15:15.53IndustrialIs there a way to automatically complete all missions and not wait for the animation? Is that hard to do in code or is that as easy as a few loops like selling grey items?
15:18.02znfHave fun with that.
15:18.18Megalon:D
15:18.31znfbefore you spend a week on that, like me, just install MasterPlan
15:18.32Megalonjust install masterplan
15:18.34Megalon:S
15:18.39Megalonhaha
15:19.09Phixion:-)
15:19.19Industrialok
15:19.43IndustrialI don't see it on wowace and wowinterface ?
15:19.59Megalonhttp://www.curse.com/addons/wow/master-plan
15:20.00znfhttp://mods.curse.com/addons/wow/master-plan
15:20.04Industrialoh, http://mods.curse.com/addons/wow/master-plan
15:20.07Industrialhehe
15:37.38nevcairielif you it like znf, you'll also miss out on bonus xp, or so i hear! :D
15:37.42nevcairiel+do
15:37.54znf...
15:38.32Fiskerhey nevcairiel
15:38.37Fiskerwanna hey?
15:44.40nevcairielhey Fisker
15:44.44nevcairielwanna kill znf?
15:44.54znfyes please
15:45.52IndustrialI wonder besides sell grey items, repair gear, add slash command /reload and /rl, hide unneeded minimap buttons, mouse zoom and rightwheel tracking menu, max camera distance tweak and allows you to set the tooltip anchor to topleft/right bottomleft/right, default or mouse
15:46.06Industrialwhat other stuff I can put into idTweaks :-)
15:46.25znfsomething that strips your char naked when you say yolo
15:46.26nevcairielmany people have their own tiny tweak addons, we don't bother other people with it =p
15:46.37IndustrialThis time around, I have full options for everything.
15:46.40IndustrialxD
15:47.19Industrialnevcairiel: well wanna link me yours? I'd be interested to nose around :P
15:49.30znfHAHAHAHAHAH
15:49.32znfomg
15:49.34znfI'm dying
15:49.52znfA client is asking us if we can increase the space of all their google apps accounts by 30GB for free
15:56.39Industrialnevcairiel: I see you made LibActionButton so I'm going to bug you with that; What I want is this: 4x12 actions, 1x10 pet, 1x1 leave vehicle button. Ideally the first action bar swaps when you enter/exist a vehicle. No other swapping needed (stances, etc).
15:56.52Industrialnevcairiel: Is that possible to do with LibActionButton?
15:57.06IndustrialI haven't touched action buttons since the secure thing went live :-)
15:57.20FiskerI killed znf before nevcairiel
15:57.28Industrialactually, haven't done a lot of cool customizing for wow after that.. mostly automating and non visual stuff...
15:57.46TorhalFisker: You killed znf before you killed nevcairiel? Or, you killed znf before nevcairiel could?
15:57.55znfdies
15:58.40nevcairielIndustrial: its possible, but you will still need a bunch of code yourself to drive the state changes for vehicles
15:58.55Industrialk
15:59.13Industrialis there an easier solution for vehicles?
15:59.19Torhalimplicitly converts Phixion to a number.
16:00.18Industrialnevcairiel: is there any docs to the lib?
16:00.51TorhalThe code!
16:00.58Industrialk
16:00.59nevcairielindeed
16:01.18nevcairielthe basics are pretty easy, like creating random buttons that do stuff, just swapping is a bit hard
16:01.43nevcairielhttp://www.wowace.com/addons/libactionbutton-1-0/pages/api/
16:01.50nevcairieleven has a small swapping example
16:02.47Industrialcool, ty
16:02.54nevcairielits not quite complete docs, ie. it doesnt explain all possible button types etc and links to the wrong docs in some parts
16:02.57nevcairielbut hey
16:03.10IndustrialI see it has an own toc file, can I include it as an inline lib along with ace libs?
16:03.13nevcairielmostly because I never used it myself for anything but action-based buttons
16:03.39IndustrialWell I wouldn't know where to start to create an action bar addon really, I thought this was a nice start
16:04.07nevcairielaction buttons are easy, just set type to "action" and action to the action id =p
16:04.12Industrialk
16:04.32nevcairielbut buttons could also be spell buttons, macro buttons, item buttons, etc, but bartender doesnt use this yet, and i'm not sure if any other addons do
16:04.46nevcairieli got bug reports about that occasionally, so maybe some do
16:05.14Industrialright
16:05.37IndustrialI had one idea to put many spell buttonson my HUD, instead of an action bar and then group them by function
16:05.50Industrialor one resembling my keyboard :-)
16:14.36Industrialnevcairiel: do I need a secure header for each button or all buttons?
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16:21.07nevcairielYou only need one if it's supposed to switch on something
16:21.23nevcairielAnd the same for all Buttons that should switch together
16:21.35Industrialk
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16:53.45Industrialnevcairiel: I have two problems;
16:53.47Industrialhttps://gist.github.com/Industrial/373bc5ac54da5c11f7834cf5b689b586/c869ba4c24eca585cb579bdedcb7fabb5c6b7743
16:54.20Industrial1) When I drag a spell frommy spell book it shows 12 buttons' grid, I'd expect 48
16:54.52Industrial2) I get the error "Unknown type: nil" when I drag a spell onto a button
16:55.09IndustrialI guess I configured something wrong, but I grouped the headers with the bar frames :-)
17:04.13quiescensmoo?
17:04.44Industrialhttp://i.imgur.com/jyTrVbq.jpg
17:04.48Industrialcool, got a backdrop :D
17:10.49quiescensgives Industrial a cookie
17:11.52IndustrialIt's been a while :p
17:18.27Torhalcookies quiescens a give.
17:24.17Megalonbackdropkicks Torhal
17:24.40Torhalbackticks Megalon.
17:34.51Fiskerhttp://www.gigabyte.sg/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5910#kf nevcairiel
17:37.48Phixion:O
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17:59.45nevcairielShit is spreading fisker
18:00.12nevcairielAlso alpha build on a Monday, week sure starts weirs
18:00.20nevcairielweird
18:00.34FiskerIt's founders edition tough
18:00.35FiskerThough
18:00.42FiskerSo confirmed reference
18:01.53nevcairielWell the reasoning seems to be that it's a premium model now with full metal body and vacuum chamber cooler
18:02.25MysticalOSto be fair last weeks build was busted on too many levels, between GetTime() and auras not right. they didn't even get to do any raid testing. probably in a hurry to retire it
18:03.03nevcairielThey did M dungeon testing, didn't sound like they wanted raid tests
18:03.45nevcairielDoubt they would really rush a build just for some issues
18:04.28MysticalOSthere isn't much new content left. i imagine the builds may actually shrink a bit now. maybe come more rapidly
18:05.10MysticalOShopefully "beta" soon
18:12.41nevcairielThe stream from watcher tomorrow might shine some light on things
18:17.59harl|MrRoboti'm looking for an addon to list any characters i've been grouped with (while using the addon of course)..
18:18.22harl|MrRobotsort of a replacement for Karma.. any ideas?
18:28.11harl|MrRobotgoing to try Have We Met? when i get back from checking the stables
18:29.12Executionerhttp://screens.executioner1337.net/blades.png badjoke.png
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19:08.44harl|MrRobotyea right
20:19.58IndustrialIs there a bag addon that has a list/table interface rather then a grid?
20:41.13harl|MrRobotyea
20:41.43IndustrialI really like famBags
20:42.01Industrialbut maybe a table/tree works awesome :)
20:42.25EthanCentauraiI used to use Stuffing, it might still work
20:48.56harl|MrRoboti fail to remember the name of the bag addon that had the table/list view..
20:51.25Fiskerhttps://twitter.com/Malkythera/status/729774589912436736
20:52.09pompytoo many times
21:15.47IndustrialBitten's SpellFlash, does this still work?
21:31.00pompyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeF3UTkCoxY them dislikes doe
21:32.53nevcairielcall of duty is definitely suffering from spectacle bloat
21:34.20nevcairielwasnt this once a game about fighting a war on earth
21:34.34nevcairielyou know, against earthians
21:36.35Stanzillaactually refreshing to see a different story now
21:37.06nevcairielthey should just start a new franchise instead of this
21:37.24nevcairielblack ops is also like 100 years into the future now
21:37.27harl|MrRobotagrees with the nev
21:37.35nevcairielnot really CoD anymore
21:37.56nevcairielbattlefield is doing it right and going back to the roots, not that i'm going to play it either way
21:38.24harl|MrRobotyea.. if they want to create another AvP universe, they should do just that and not feed off the CoD pop
21:39.46nevcairielnot sure why people downvoted the video this much, if this is part of the reason or they just didnt like the video
21:40.07nevcairielor 4chan attacked
21:40.37harl|MrRobotsome of each i guess
21:42.36nevcairielthe main reason why I didnt like CoD anymore recently is that the campaign got shorter and shorter, and MP didnt interest me much in those games anymore
21:43.43nevcairielalthough i do actually have blackops3 =p
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