IRC log for #wowace on 20160419

00:07.00Megalonnevcairiel sb *foz Stanzilla: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeX5b7slDE4
00:07.03Megalonhahaha
00:08.05StanzillaPre-Purchased Overwatch? Mercy's Wings Now Available
00:08.06Stanzillafuck yeah
00:11.02Stanzillabam http://i.imgur.com/Gc4Yk73.jpg
00:13.22Ironiilooks really weird o.o
00:13.59Stanzillaif by weird you mean fucking awesome, then yes!
00:14.40Ironiimeh, they should be more transparent
00:16.22Megalonlooks so out of place lol
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01:05.21Semlari think cosmetic wings should be a playable character
01:05.38Semlarlike someone could wear you
01:05.54Semlarand you'd just ride around on them
01:06.09Megalonlike watching someone else play
01:06.20Megalonthey could add a chatroom too for those watching
01:06.30Megalonwith custom emojis
01:06.31Semlarwell you could flap and stuff
01:06.38Megalonlike...like.. something greeke, like a kappa
01:06.48Semlarmaybe emit particle effects
01:07.11Megalonyou could kreygasm all over them
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09:16.55GnarfozStanzilla: that should read 25.05. god damnit
09:17.17Gnarfozwhat am I going to do from then until open beta and from open beta until launch? play Legion? are they insane? :P
09:17.34nevcairieldid you really expect them not to close it in between those times?
09:20.54Gnarfozthey overlaid the stress test weekends onto the closed beta, might have done the same for open betga
09:21.04Gnarfozfrom open beta to release, yeah, maybe
09:21.13nevcairielwell that would have been one more week, i guess =p
09:21.17Gnarfozthey've done overlapping stuff before ^^
09:21.30nevcairielbut they probably want to take the time to get the infra ready, the open beta will be unseen load
09:21.34Gnarfozalso, I might have been a bit facetious
09:22.18Gnarfozit's actually a good thing, I might get around to actually continuing to level on Legion alpha
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09:25.51nevcairieldo they have character copy on alpha yet? probably not right?
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09:29.41GnarfozI'd need to check, haven't launched it in a while
09:38.21GnarfozStanzilla: meh, Franz somehow eats my ö and ü hotkeys and switches chats
09:38.42Gnarfozalso, no notifications besides the systray icon changing :(
09:38.44nevcairielwhy would you bother with that
09:38.50Gnarfoznevcairiel: Franz?
09:39.04nevcairielits practically a browser that aggregates the web clients of those services
09:39.08GnarfozI know
09:39.18Gnarfozjust checking out if maybe it doesn't suck as bad as the others at memory management
09:39.23Gnarfozparticularly Slack
09:39.28nevcairielwell you know, use your browser? :)
09:39.55Gnarfozhaving 3 different kinds of notification systems going is a bit annoying
09:40.28GnarfozHangouts extension just always pops up, no way to stop it, except for keeping existing windows open + minimized
09:40.31nevcairielirc is the only communication tool i use on the pc anyway, i stick to phone for messengers
09:40.39Gnarfoz(nothing possible for actual new windows)
09:41.01nevcairielactually i also run skype, but i never text chat over that
09:41.09GnarfozSlack is just dumb in general (but at least its notification system is ok)
09:41.33Gnarfozand WhatsApp uses desktop notifications and thanks to Chrome being shit, they're on the wrong screen
09:42.07Gnarfoz(and I intentionally don't have notifications enabled for quasselweb, although it supports them)
09:44.02Gnarfozhttp://i.imgur.com/1Ym88yW.png so bad
09:44.15Gnarfozall I did was start it, do a single query
09:44.26Gnarfozlooks like it downloaded our entire Active Directory or something
09:47.00GnarfozAmazon knows me too well https://goo.gl/photos/k45JTM6dVXCh6xwd6
09:47.07Gnarfozincluded with my LED lamps :D
09:47.19nevcairiellol
09:48.08Gnarfozand a Blume2000 one, good 
09:48.21Gnarfoztime to order some mother's day flowers, I guess
09:48.47GnarfozMay 8th, Germanos
09:50.27Gnarfozinteresting, Father's day actually beats Mother's day to the punch this yeasr
09:50.29Gnarfoz-s
09:50.58GnarfozI guess I could look at train tickets for that, if I get Friday off...
09:51.19nevcairielearly easter, i guess
09:51.21Phixionfuck mother's day
09:52.11Phixionyay apache directory studio
09:52.46Gnarfoznevcairiel: yeah, of course ^^
09:53.08GnarfozPhixion: not really. slow ass piece of... dung
09:53.31Phixionfine for me
10:08.34Gnarfozmeh DB, no trains that go the regular fast route on the Wednesday before Father's day?
10:09.53Gnarfozoh right, that's just right when DB is doing work on the Hannover <-> Kassel ICE leg
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10:17.33nevcairielbad timing
10:20.04Gnarfozno visiting parents then, I guess
10:20.25nevcairielcould take the regular trains!
10:20.43Gnarfoz5+ hours
10:20.54Gnarfozgoing by car would be faster ^^
11:20.02znfGnarfoz, ever played with arcconf? (adaptec cli)
11:20.39znfI plugged in a new drive and I don't need any type of raid on it. Any idea how do I make the controller "export" the disk to the os?
11:21.13znf(I'm guessing passtrough)
11:24.52Gnarfozif you have a controller that needs arcconf, I doubt it can do what you really want (which would be "play HBA")
11:25.08Gnarfozalso, both arcconf and megacli have HORRIBLE cli syntax
11:26.40znfI can see that
11:27.14znfI see there's a setcontrollermode
11:27.46znfbut my tool doesn't have that
11:27.47znfRAID: Expose RAW (default)—All RAID functions of the controller are enabled. Attached drives without Adaptec meta-data are surfaced to the host operating system as RAW Pass Through devices (similar to JBODs on legacy Adaptec controllers).
11:27.51znfand it seems this is what I want
11:33.50znfGnarfoz, so what should I do? create a JBOD made out of a single disc?
11:36.14Gnarfoz*disk, and yeah, probably
11:36.23Gnarfozerr oh
11:36.31Gnarfozwell, that "expose raw" thing looks interesting
11:36.42GnarfozI don't think any of our controllers have that, or I might have not looked for it
11:36.54Gnarfozmaybe you have a shiny new one
11:36.59GnarfozI would give that a try
11:37.15znfI don't think I have a shiny new one
11:37.25znfthe arcconf is not showing me setcontrollermode
11:37.52znf(and it returns command failed)
11:40.20Gnarfozwhere'd you copy that from, then
11:40.36znftheir manual
11:40.41znfhttp://www.adaptec.com/en-us/support/infocenter/release-2013-4/index.jsp?topic=/adaptec_cli.xml/Topics/arcconf_setcontrollermode.html
11:41.46Gnarfozif they have a manual for arcconf, not specific to a controller model, I bet it has a disclaimer "your controller might not support all of this shit"
11:42.22znfprobably
11:42.25Gnarfozyour next best bet is putting it into a jbod virtual drive on its own, yeah. or cut out the middleman and don't use a raid controller ^^
11:42.38znfit's one of those embedded thingies
11:43.04znfbut yeah, jbod worked
11:43.54znfAdaptec 2405
11:45.19Gnarfozyuck
11:45.27Gnarfozenjoy while it lasts, I guess
11:46.01znfmy predecesors virtualized cpanel...
11:46.09znfone cpanel vm per physical host
11:46.21znfI'm not sure if that was made to skimp on the license cost
11:46.27znfor for ulterior motives
11:47.51StanzillaGnarfoz: latest franz has notifications and badge on the icon
11:48.01znfwho's franz?
11:48.28Stanzillahttp://meetfranz.com/
11:48.37GnarfozStanzilla: not sure how "badge on icon" is supposed to work on win7
11:48.57Gnarfozand not sure what you mean by "notifications" - did you see my recent twitter dialog with @franzsupport?
11:49.10Megaloni hope they have another app called siiiiiiiiiiiissi
11:49.18Stanzillalike skype and other stuff? if you have a new message the icon says "1" etc
11:49.21Stanzillaand no I did not
11:49.24Gnarfozlong story short: the systray icon changes, and I get popup baloons for Slack and WhatsApp, but not Hangouts
11:49.34znfuh, wait
11:49.37znfthat's actually nice
11:49.38Gnarfozand the actual taskbar icon/entry does nothing
11:49.45Gnarfozno flashing, no icon changing, bleh
11:49.59znfHmmm.
11:49.59znfWait.
11:50.03Gnarfoz(and of course, the balloons are tethered to the systray, which is on my other screen ^^)
11:50.07znfCan I make separate windows for different services?
11:50.24Gnarfozznf: the entire idea is to have it all in one, so probably not.
11:50.37Gnarfozyou could try, though, what do I know
11:50.44GnarfozI only tried it out today ^^
11:51.00znfI'd rather not send personal stuff to my coworkers on slack :D
11:51.24Gnarfozthat danger exists no matter what you do (except not use personal and work stuff on the same computer)
11:51.57StanzillaGnarfoz: I never use systray icons, always taskbar icons
11:53.00znfGnarfoz, different icons, different windows
11:53.02znfless of a chance
11:53.09GnarfozStanzilla: well, that doesn't change anything for me, I don't think Windows even supports putting balloons anywhere else than there
11:53.10znfso, Stanzilla ?
11:53.20znfcan you open different windows?
11:56.16Stanzillano
11:58.06znfok, thanks :(
12:38.35znfsilly question
12:39.05znfif you mkfs a whole disk, is the resulting fs block-alligned? (on SSDs)
12:40.05nevcairielyou would create a partition table appropriately and align that
12:40.40znfso you can't simply assume that a fs is alligned without a partition table
12:40.41znfboo
12:46.23Gnarfozwhy would you assume that
12:46.34Gnarfozit's not going to be aligned that way, why would it
12:47.45Gnarfozeven assuming the raid controller put nothing on there that you can't see (which is doubtful at best), I doubt that that would actually result in whatever you put on there starting at sector 1
12:48.14nevcairielwhich would probably be fine
12:48.20nevcairielif you really get the full disc
12:48.32nevcairieland not starting at random position X
12:52.20Gnarfozstill better to make sure than to assume :D
12:52.37Gnarfozalthough it's debatable how much of a problem it is on non-SSDs
12:52.44Gnarfozhttp://www.lacie.com/de/de/products/raid/12big-thunderbolt-3/#features I want one, or 5
12:53.26Gnarfoztoo bad it's renders from top to bottom
12:53.47Gnarfoz(and my good old CM Stacker also has room for  12 HDDs)
12:54.28nevcairielmeh thunderbolt
12:54.39nevcairielmac-centric interfaces, its firewire all over again
12:54.45nevcairielnoone in the PC world really cares about it
13:01.44nebulamy laptop has one, uses the usb type-c connector
13:02.37nebulanever used it, though!
13:04.16Gnarfoztb3 is basically a pcie cable, it's great, particularly considering you can run it over usb type-c alternate mode
13:04.36Gnarfozmy LED lamps are here and I can't analyze them for shit
13:05.08Gnarfozthe SEBSON MCOB one seems to actually have a glass casing, so there's nothing for me to open
13:05.31nevcairielyou can test if their light pleases you
13:05.38Gnarfozonly after I get home
13:06.06Gnarfozthe VINSUN JDR one is the most forthcoming, even through the milky plastic diffusor I can see a circuit board with a bunch of SMD LEDs on it 
13:06.24Gnarfozand the VINSUN R50 type I can't see anything at all
13:06.40Gnarfozand both of the latter I wouldn't know where to open up
13:07.06Stanzillanebula: which laptop do you have
13:07.08GnarfozI guess I could try prying off the diffusers, but they're not screwed on
13:07.28nebulaStanzilla: asus g752
13:07.58Gnarfozin any case, that'll have to wait until tonight (or never, or only after they've broken)
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13:08.46Stanzillanebula: wow that is fugly :D
13:09.40nebulait's a big ass gaming laptop, what do you want
13:10.05nevcairielso people actually buy such non-portables?
13:10.29nevcairielbut yeah it is ugly
13:10.40nebulai travel a lot, actually have an ultrabook, too, but never really use it
13:10.57nevcairielthe space behind the screen just looks silly
13:11.05Stanzillahttp://img10-us1.uitoximg.com/A/show/AW000706/2015/1009/AM0006012/201510AM090006012_14443427949856240095686.jpg
13:11.06Stanzillathat?
13:11.23nebulait's not like you see it, just a big area for the venting
13:11.39Megalonwell, i think we should buy znf one
13:11.44Megalonbecause that guy vents A LOT
13:11.55nebulaStanzilla: yea
13:12.23nevcairieli have a ultrabook for travel, but i would never consider buying a gaming machine to take with me
13:13.31nevcairieli just dont like compromising on such things, either its ultra portable like the ultrabook which I could carry all day without my arm falling off, or it needs to provide all the power I need, ie. my desktop
13:13.47nevcairielbig laptops are like the worst o f both =P
13:14.08nebulawell i wanted a portable desktop, sooo yea
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13:15.59Stanzillayeah not really any other solution to that problem
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13:17.30nevcairielthey should just develop a sort of true portable desktop, drop all the pretense of being a laptop, split screen and body, get rid of the bad keyboard, just make it in some way that you can combine it easily for transport
13:19.52Stanzillawhy?
13:20.48nevcairielbecause those laptops suck, and this would give them far more flexibility
13:21.15nevcairielhaving a detached keyboard by design that doesnt heat your hands when you type on it etc =p
13:29.08Stanzillanebula: I'm in a QM right now and we have someone with a 57 MMR
13:29.12Stanzillano number missing here
13:29.18Stanzilla57
13:30.26Megalongotta start somewhere
13:30.33nebulalol, whats his hotdog page
13:31.47Stanzillahttp://www.hotslogs.com/Player/Profile?PlayerID=5902941&utm_source=HotsStats&utm_medium=link
13:32.56nebulasuprised he has an mmr, thought you need 50 games to get ranked
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14:06.07Gnarfoznevcairiel: sounds like you want one of these http://i.imgur.com/QkLzFAB.jpg 
14:06.17nevcairielhehe
14:06.20Gnarfozit has a carrying handle, too http://i.imgur.com/mHLMoPh.jpg
14:06.37Gnarfozthere's one in my parents' basement, do you want it? :P
14:06.49Gnarfozthat was the first computer I ever used
14:11.58GnarfozPhixion: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/sentraq-tk78-mechanical-keyboard-kit?mode=guest_open dat price
14:13.15Phixionugh
14:32.04PhixionGnarfoz: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/70308014/kings-assembly-a-computer-mouse-full-of-awesome/description ಠ_ಠ
14:35.37nevcairielwhy are you linking a two year old kickstarter
14:37.23Phixionwasn't aware old links aren't allowed to link
14:37.34nevcairielyou need a special permission slip
14:38.03Phixiondon't have any :(
14:46.52Fiskerhey Phixion
14:47.44TorhalPhixion: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/skarp/the-skarp-laser-razor-21st-century-shaving
14:47.47TorhalWhile we're linking old shit.
14:47.54nebulatwo years old and still hasn't shipped!
14:48.07Stanzillagg they broke heroes in EU
14:48.21Stanzillahttp://www.heroesnexus.com/blue-tracker/topic/21430-new-patch-incoming-april-19-2016
14:48.23nebulai have a friend that used a keyboard like that, but it was still on a board
14:48.32Torhalnebula: Two years? WAT. The Kickstarter was suspended in October.
14:48.33nebularip skarp
14:48.40nebulano, the one before that
14:48.48TorhalAh.
14:49.10FiskerWhy the fuck did that skarp thing ever become athing
14:49.18nebulabecause lasers.
14:51.04Stanzillawhat kind of a patch schedule is that
14:51.07Stanzillagetting tracer before NA
14:51.07Stanzillaokay
14:51.59Phixionhow can it be 21st century shaving when there's no usb port Torhal
14:52.01Phixionhey Fisker
14:52.12TorhalType C, Phixion.
14:52.20FiskerHey Phixion
14:52.50Phixionhepatitis type c
14:52.59TorhalIn your eye, Phixion.
14:53.07Phixionouch
14:55.31Stanzillanebula: this is so fucked up
14:55.38Stanzillanow we have 17.2 but no tracer :D
14:56.00nevcairielwhy do you th ink these things need to be necessarily tied?
14:56.10nevcairielthey could patch and then unlock on all regions at a later time
14:56.11Stanzillabecause they said so
14:56.32nebulabecause THE FUCKING SKY IS FALLING NEV
14:56.34nevcairielno, they did not
14:56.48nevcairielnowhere did they say that the minute the patch was live you would have tracer
14:56.51Stanzillaok
14:57.00nevcairielyou just assumed you would
14:57.00nevcairiel=p
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15:01.59Gnarfozbecause he's a very needy guy? ^^
15:02.11Gnarfozspeaking of needs, I need more hours in a day
15:02.20StanzillaI NNED MA TRACER
15:02.21StanzillaHURR
15:02.33Gnarfozoh and I need to know: does anyone of you use a FireTV (or stick)?
15:03.05nevcairieli pondered getting one to play around with for work purposes, but i didnt
15:04.36nevcairielin before forum outcry because tracers ass is still the same shape in heroes now
15:04.45GnarfozI was wondering if it maybe has better software that allows binging (bingeing?) a series (or a season, or even just more than 1 episode) without having to go back to the menu and switch the language to English for EVERY SINGLE EPISODE
15:05.03Fiskertracer is terrible
15:05.05nevcairielits probably not too bad if you actually watch amazon prime stuff regularly
15:05.11quiescensmoo
15:05.19Gnarfozwhat? it's terrible, nevcairiel!
15:05.42Gnarfozthe more often you watch, the more terrible it is :D
15:05.53nevcairielbut i thought you dont have one
15:05.56Gnarfozor that's somehow not what you meant
15:06.00Phixionandroidtv + prime video launcher
15:06.00Gnarfozah.
15:06.04Phixionit just does that
15:06.11Gnarfozno, I meant in comparison to the SmartTV app
15:06.15nevcairielah
15:06.21Gnarfozyeah, I guess I left that out
15:06.37nevcairielits not like a firetv stick costs money
15:06.37Gnarfozbut from what I read on Amazon Kundenforum, it seems like the firetv also has the same problem
15:06.56Gnarfozthe only thing that does it is... the Android "Amazon Video" app
15:07.17nevcairielput it on your phone and cast it to chromecast on your tv :D
15:07.18Gnarfozwhich you can only get by installing their Amazon App Store (apparently now called "Amazon Underground" oO) and installing it from there
15:07.24GnarfozI did, quality is terrible
15:07.29Gnarfozor rather, I used screen mirroring
15:07.38Gnarfoznot sure who's to blame in that setup
15:07.42Phixionprime video launcher Gnarfoz
15:07.44nevcairielactual casting is probably going to be better
15:07.58GnarfozPhixion: I have no idea what that is, and I don't have a TV with Android on it
15:08.05Phixionim not sure if they fixed sd/hd issue yet tho
15:08.14Gnarfoznevcairiel: but doesn't that mean Chromecast needs to support it
15:08.28nevcairielGnarfoz: no that means amazon prime video app needs to support chromecast
15:08.53Gnarfozbut I thought Chromecast is just something you control remotely, has it learned to accept video streams?
15:09.06nevcairielthats what it always did
15:09.23nevcairielbut since amazon has their own firetv thing, it may not work with it
15:09.25Gnarfozvs. "hey Chromecast, grab this video from http://somewhere and display it"
15:09.42Gnarfozvs  "Hey Chromecast, here's some h264 for you BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH please display it"
15:09.58Gnarfoz(I hope you understand what I mean)
15:10.08Gnarfozit doesn't do the latter, does it?
15:10.08nevcairielit kinda does the first only, but you can of course just offer a secret little http server on your phone if you must
15:10.18nevcairielor on the pc or wherever
15:10.20Gnarfozyeah, that was my understanding
15:10.27Gnarfozwell, it's all a shitshow in any case
15:10.43Gnarfozthey already support it in their Android app, so it can't be hard to do it in other places
15:10.46nevcairiellooks like they dont support chromecast to push the firetv instead
15:10.55Gnarfozbig surprise there
15:11.15Gnarfozthey stopped allowing Chromecast to be sold on Amazon :D
15:11.50quiescenso.o
15:11.51Gnarfoz(to stop people from buying "the wrong thing" and getting confused, of course)
15:12.46Gnarfozlastly, not entirely related to audio language always going back to German: no 4K if you use anything but a TV integrated app
15:12.54GnarfozI think not even the FireTV devices allow it
15:12.59nevcairielsilly
15:13.07Gnarfozgotta protect that content
15:13.28Gnarfoznot that it isn't getting ripped to hell and back already, but apparently they need to keep up pretenses
15:13.37nevcairielthe firetv probably just doesnt have a hdmi2 portr
15:13.38nevcairiel-r
15:14.01Gnarfozisn't that at least at revision 2 now? seems like something they could have put in if they had wanted to
15:14.05nevcairielthose transceiver chips are still expensive
15:14.21Gnarfozalso, 4K is entirely possible without it, just not at more than 30 Hz ^^
15:14.40GnarfozI guess they want HDCP 2.2 more than the other stuff
15:14.46Gnarfoznot that that isn't also broken already.
15:14.48nevcairielof course
15:15.10Gnarfozfucking DRM horseshit cancer idiocy
15:15.14Gnarfoz:s
15:15.54Gnarfozalways ends up being circumvented, always ends up being more annoying for legit users than others
15:16.05nevcairielof course
15:16.18nevcairielbut video streaming is still plastered with it
15:16.27nevcairieli'm still amazed most audio services stopped giving a damn
15:16.42Gnarfoznot that streaming 4K is really all that, the video is seriously bitrate starved
15:17.14Gnarfozbut even so, it has marginally more detail than 1080
15:17.31Gnarfozbut to draw a connection back to OV audio...
15:17.41GnarfozAmazon has Bosch in UHD
15:17.46Gnarfozbut only with DE audio
15:17.51nevcairielwonder how long until UHD Blu-ray gets decrypted, so far it doesnt look like "official" UHD BD drives are showing up, just some odd BDXL drives that somehow can read the disc
15:18.11Gnarfozif I want OV, I need to go to the "regular" version, which is DE/OV
15:18.24nevcairielis bosch worth watching anyway?
15:18.24Gnarfoz(and I get to switch to OV for each single episode)
15:18.33GnarfozI liked it
15:18.40nevcairielI pay amazon prime anyway, so i might as well pirate?
15:18.43nevcairiel:)
15:18.44Gnarfozlol
15:19.04Gnarfozor just stream it, if you have a device that can
15:19.27nevcairielI hate streaming for that particular reason
15:19.27Gnarfozhave any UHD BDs shipped, yet, anyway?
15:20.02Gnarfozwell, yeah, as just elaborated, you're probably better off pirating anyway. regardless if you have legit access or not >_>
15:20.15nevcairielits a effing closed down system for some devices and official apps, no way for a media center PC application to get those streams integrated into a full media solution
15:20.36Gnarfozyeah, brrr
15:20.54Stanzillahttp://eu.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20099322
15:22.41nevcairielis hots disabled right now or something, in all play modes I just get "this play mode is currently disabled"
15:22.44Gnarfozreads as if the current Fire TV does do 4K http://www.engadget.com/2015/10/16/amazon-fire-tv-4k/
15:23.31Stanzillayeah they are still f ucking up their patch deplay
15:23.32Stanzilla*o
15:23.46Stanzillano idea why they started with EU on a tuesday
15:23.50Stanzillain the middle of the day
15:23.53Gnarfozbecause YOLO
15:24.15GnarfozI wonder why this "Amazon Smile" crap never remembers I told it to go away
15:24.33Gnarfozit's like those cookie reminders that don't set a cookie to remember I've already read them
15:24.38nevcairielGnarfoz: the box firetv probably, the stick probably not
15:28.28GnarfozI didn't check the stick, come to think of it, yeah
15:28.44FiskerI want new graphics card nevcairiel
15:28.46Stanzillahahah
15:28.47GnarfozI'm not sure what to make of this description of the FireTV, though
15:28.49Gnarfoz"Amazon Fire TV now supports 4K Ultra HD for true-to-life picture quality. Watch high-definition 1080p streams on Amazon Video, Netflix, Hulu and more, even without a 4K TV."
15:28.49Stanzillashit is dying left and right
15:28.53Stanzillanow I have every hero at lvl 1
15:29.13Gnarfozso... 1080p... at 4K... but not really?
15:29.42FiskerWhat the fuck
15:29.55Stanzillanow I have tracer but everything else is disabled
15:30.04FiskerMaybe they meant 4k on the drive sectors
15:30.14Gnarfozor are they just saying that it supports both, and you don't have to worry about needing to have a 4K TV'
15:30.53FiskerAlso Phixion
15:32.09Fisker>MFW I was talking to a customer today and noticed in our monitoring systems that he had wow installed and I jokingly said to look at how much wow he played during work and he actually did
15:32.28Phixion:-)
15:32.40Phixionand?
15:32.50FiskerAwkward silence
15:44.40Phixion:)
15:48.17Stanzillathe dubstep in the new wc movie trailer is confusing
16:00.10FiskerWhy dubstep?
16:05.09Stanzillaexactly
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16:28.16StanzillaUntil we have this resolved, we will have to delay maintenance for the Americas login region for a little while longer. Apologies for the inconvenience, we'll keep you updated as we make progress.
16:28.25Stanzillahail our new EU beta testing overlords
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16:47.54nevcairielits always funny to see which tech pages one can take more seriously than others, depending on how they present leaks. So an alleged image of a nvidia 1080 cooler leaked, the absolute serious pages of course post nothing - but some pages post the image with the appropriate note that its a cooler with the usual leak and rumor markers and whatnot, and then some pages claim its the entire full functional card, draw up some imaginary tech specs
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16:49.36FiskerNice
16:49.50FiskerI just want it
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17:31.19GnarfozPhixion: halp, how do I type
17:31.34Phixionplanck?
17:31.41Phixionimpossible
17:32.16Gnarfozno, Planck is at wprk, nopw I have terrible accuracy at home on staggered qwerty
17:32.29Phixionugh
17:32.34Gnarfozcan literally feel my fingers wanting to go somewhere else than they need to xD
17:32.46Gnarfozdidn't think that would take hold so quickly
17:52.03ZeldoFisker: How much wow did he play?
17:58.57FiskerEnough Zeldo
18:05.51Zeldolol
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18:46.24Gnarfozdat PWM https://goo.gl/photos/KtKmdQkf25iv1AN9A
18:50.21FiskerWhy is there a lamp in your rocket?
18:50.50Gnarfozit's the engine
18:54.07FiskerI guess the design is pretty disaster proof
18:56.43Gnarfozcouple of days old, but this video is nothing short of amazing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRz_CG3DZb4
18:59.18nevcairielsomeone linked it next door yesterday
18:59.22nevcairielindeed pretty cool
19:02.26Gnarfozhm
19:02.30Gnarfozhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFUEPo61P5A I thought I had seen that guy before
19:11.17Gnarfozhe's gotten better at presenting, though
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19:40.06Fiskerwow Gnarfoz
19:40.08Fiskersame slide
19:42.51Gnarfozhttps://goo.gl/photos/dx1s3o6B7f9wPrDb9 turns out the 36° angle isn't really much of a problem, even though you can clearly see that it's a lot more pronounced than the supposed 30° angle on the incandescent to its left
19:43.09nevcairiellight spreads a bit
19:43.13Fiskerhttp://www.xda-developers.com/biggest-bottlenecks-building-android-from-source/ <-great article header
19:43.25Gnarfoz(the lower two are 110°)
19:43.42Gnarfozalso, it seems the 36° one isn't PWM
19:43.58Gnarfozwhich is kind of surprising
19:45.09nevcairieldo you notice the PWM flickering?
19:45.20Gnarfozonly while trying to take pictures
19:45.26Gnarfozmy eyes are not fast enough ;)
19:46.08Gnarfozhaving two of them on at the same time is probably going to make that even harder to notice (took those pictures with only one of them on at a time)
19:47.32Gnarfozand as I assumed, the VINSUN ones are both SMD-based, even though it's hard to tell through the diffuser
19:48.49Stanzillathis windows 7 installation is such a shitty piece of shit
19:48.56Stanzillaespecialyl windows update
19:49.04quiescensreroll os/2
19:49.47Fiskeror use windows 10
19:50.34Stanzillanope to both
19:50.50Gnarfozhttps://goo.gl/photos/6Jhqjs6ZZTSYNQ3M6 PWM (and SMD-LEDs)
19:53.21Gnarfozheh, added a room pic
19:53.47nevcairiellol
19:54.00Gnarfozit's really hardcore visible there, but that's like 1/25600s shutter speed
19:54.17Gnarfozwait no, it's only 1/1000 or 2000
19:54.41Gnarfozanyway, unrealistic benchmark is unrealistic
19:55.14Gnarfozand I didn't think I'd notice a 300K color temp difference
19:55.35Gnarfozbut the 3000K (the 36° one) is noticeably brighter/whiter/colder
19:55.53nevcairielmaybe their definition also isnt very accurate
19:57.45GnarfozI'd hope the LEDs are comparable amongst each other, (2700K vs. 3000K), I'm sure used incandescents are not to be trusted as far as I can throw them
20:07.23Gnarfozodd :D
20:08.04Gnarfozwhile I don't have a real "before" picture since there were only 2 working incandescent lights left, it looks like the result is actually a warmer light colour overall?
20:10.34quiescensjust use candles for everything
20:14.38GnarfozI am, many of them
20:15.24Gnarfoz1220 of them
20:25.46Gnarfozalthough I'm a bit confused as to why they're getting as hot as they do
20:26.02Gnarfozbut then I'm not sure how hot 6W *should* be :p
20:26.12Gnarfoz5W, rather
20:27.14quiescensabout 5w worth \o/
20:49.57pompyhttp://androidcommunity.com/counter-strike-1-6-now-runs-on-android-everything-works-20160419/
20:50.28nevcairielgreat it runs a 17 year old game =p
21:01.59winkare those hybrid HD/SSDs not a thing anymore or does geizhals just not show them?
21:06.50winkfound it. anyone used one and can give some info?
21:09.57GnarfozI haven't, but I doubt their great usefulness
21:10.06Stanzillababy winston pet in wow is life
21:10.09Gnarfozthese are fascinating https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LED_filament
21:10.16GnarfozStanzilla: winston is love, winston is life
21:10.37Stanzillano, he's an ape actually
21:12.16Gnarfozshould have misspelled ape to close the circle
21:15.08Gnarfozrare case of dewiki being more verbose https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/LED-Leuchtfaden
21:20.30winkGnarfoz: yeah well. I've heard a few people say they're good for gaming pcs especially.
21:20.43wink2 TB one is 90 as compared to 60 for normal HDD
21:20.48winkmaybe worth a try
21:21.02winkjust noticed there's a 250 GB HDD in that other gaming pc here :
21:21.09winkthe SSD is nearly as big..
21:21.25winkit maybe explains the loud noises tho
21:21.31Gnarfozgood for gaming PCs? meh, just get a big SSD, I'd say, if budget allows.
21:21.55winkit's the secondary.. with non-loading-time critical games
21:22.02winklike.. the whole steam lib ob random crap
21:22.07Gnarfozin that case, pretty much :whatever: :D
21:22.08winknot sure I want to spend 200 on that
21:22.19Gnarfozcould probably also just go with a regular HDD then
21:22.58winkyeah. probably
21:23.07Gnarfozapparently, if you really wanted, you could get 480 GB for < 100€
21:23.09winkshould be at least as fast as THAT one :P
21:23.10Gnarfozthat's kind of insane
21:23.28winknot even sure what decade that 250GB one was made :P
21:23.47Gnarfozit's probably on the label ^^
21:23.56winkas if I was not too lazy to open the case
21:24.28wink2 TB for 60 sounds pretty good though
21:24.38winkgot a NAS here, so it's reall just random crap
21:25.08winkI have 120 GB SSD + 500 GB HDD. not really better
21:25.33winkthis household is allergic to big HDDs
21:48.24Gnarfozyou know it's time to upgrade when you can replace all your old HDDs with just one current one. :p
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22:01.22StanzillaI really want a NVMe ssd
22:01.27Stanzillabut my mainboard does not support it
22:07.26nevcairieldoesnt make a real world difference either way
22:21.48Stanzillait's a problem because spending a ton of money on a normal one would be a waste if you can get a nvme instead
22:22.27nevcairielits not a waste if there is no difference in performance =p
22:23.33StanzillaI dont have a m2 slot either
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