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00:12.32GetheZeldo: I tagged a new release for ZoneSpec, but it didn't package it
00:13.00Getheon CF
00:51.05ZeldoI'm on mobile gethe can you link me?
00:59.54Gethehttp://wow.curseforge.com/addons/zonespec/
01:20.17ZeldoDeciding to skip git repository: wow/zonespec/mainline, as not updated.
01:20.27ZeldoSo it seen it, just didn't think it updated?
01:24.26Stanzillaprobably a tag only push?
01:27.57Gethei tagged it on the site
01:29.24Stanzillathat does not work for git
01:29.37Getheah good to know
01:55.37znfnah, Gnarfoz http://i.imgur.com/TLjXHpN.png :(
02:01.00pompyi got invited to the 36 hour "weekend" beta test!
02:01.17znfI didn't :-(
02:01.22znfhates on pompy
02:01.38pompyi wont have much time to play it!
02:01.44Fiskerhey znf
02:01.48FiskerI'm in the beta
02:01.55znfgood for you
02:01.58znfI'm lately into social life
02:02.13Fiskerhate me znf
02:03.39znfnah
02:03.46znfI wanted to smoke something tonight
02:03.50znfbought 2Gs
02:03.54znfbut we got drunk instead
02:04.50znfthey only had 1 bottle of Wild Turkey at the bar
02:04.55znfand we emptied it :(
04:15.23Phixionyawn
04:27.33quiescensgo sleep o.o
04:29.36PhixionI will
04:29.43Phixionyou finally won
04:37.21quiescens^^
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10:26.21quiescens\o/
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17:04.16Gnarfozwtb LED replacement lamp that draws 40 W just like the incandescent lamp it replaces :p
17:04.39Gnarfozbut at the efficiency of those LEDs that only draw 3 W to replace a 40 W bulb
17:05.08Gnarfozthat'd be something like 5000 lm :D
17:05.10quiescensso you want it to be 13x brighter?
17:05.11quiescenso.o
17:05.21Gnarfozyeah! Aziz, light!
17:05.25quiescensare you afraid of the dark foz?
17:05.29GnarfozDarkfoz
17:05.38Gnarfozhe is my nemesis
17:08.06quiescensgives gnarfoz a candle
17:08.23Gnarfoz1 cd? that's not much.
17:09.10quiescens):
17:10.27Gnarfozhttp://www.amazon.de/dp/B016ROCZ3W/ not the kind I'm looking for, but 1000 lm is getting there
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17:15.52Gnarfozmeh, they're all cold white (6000K or more)
17:16.08Gnarfoznot sure I'd want that in the kitchen
17:17.53Gnarfozhttp://www.amazon.de/dp/B016BTCOWK/ except color temperature, this is good, almost perfect linear scaling from the 230 lm @ 3 W lamp I'd otherwise be looking at
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17:18.16Gnarfoz(also a lot cheaper per unit, but I don't really have a use for 10 of them. :P)
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18:29.07nevcairielwhy do you want your bulb to consume 40w
18:29.21nevcairieldo you want your own personal sun?
18:30.26quiescensafraid of the dark
18:41.58FiskerI'm gonna hey nevcairiel
18:42.13nevcairielyou most certainly are not
18:42.27FiskerI already did
18:42.34FiskerI liked it
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19:54.48Gnarfoznevcairiel: suns for everyone!
19:55.37Gnarfoznot really, but I'd be fine with 1/3 the power consumption but gaining some brightness vs. 1/10 the power consumption and gaining nothing
19:56.04nevcairielyou gain efficiency, isnt that good?
19:56.10nevcairielwhy do you need more light?
19:57.42GnarfozI pay the same either way
19:59.00Gnarfozit's more of a "if I can get it, why not" thing, not an actual need ^^
20:04.58nevcairielbut do you actually want it to get brigher? I use fluorescent bulbs and my room is plenty bright, if a replacment LED lamp would be brigher that might be .. worse
20:11.14Gnarfozwell, it's the kitchen, it's not like it needs to be... comfy lighting ^^
20:11.28nevcairielheh
20:11.34Gnarfozthere's probably no easy way to find out except trying
20:11.44nevcairieli have halogen bulps in the kitchen
20:11.46Gnarfozit's a tiny room anyway
20:11.59Gnarfoz3x 40 W R50 thingy
20:12.54Gnarfozbut my research so far seems to suggest that 30° LEDs are really 30° whereas incandescent/halogen do spread quite a bit more than that
20:12.56nevcairielthat reminds me that one of the bulps in the wrasenabzug broke and i wanted to order a new one
20:13.06Gnarfozthe what :D Luftabzugshaube?
20:13.13Gnarfozerr
20:13.14GnarfozDunst
20:13.22nevcairielDunstabzugshaube (Fachbegriff: Wrasenabzug)!
20:13.33GnarfozTIL
20:13.46nevcairielits what my parents called it so it stuck
20:14.13nevcairielWrasen ist im Allgemeinen der Fachbegriff für in der Luft zu Nebel auskondensierenden und damit sichtbar werdenden Wasserdampf.
20:14.19nevcairieli never knew where the word came from
20:14.52Gnarfozsays it's Niederdeutsch, so it makes sense that they'd have used it, assuming you're originally from the area you live in now
20:15.00nevcairielyeah
20:15.18nevcairielparents are originally from hamburg and have lived in HH or NDS all their live
20:15.21GnarfozI wonder if my dad knows it
20:15.31nevcairiellife*
20:15.42Gnarfozmy mom wouldn't, she's a refugee! :P
20:16.02GnarfozRepublikflüchtling
20:16.11Gnarfozsuch a German word, somehow
20:17.30Gnarfozwell ok, not buying lights from these guys http://ecdgermany.de/
20:17.32Gnarfoz:D
20:17.56nevcairielmaybe you can sell them some admin time instead
20:18.11Gnarfozhehe
20:18.43Gnarfozhttp://www.amazon.de/dp/B016BTCOWK/ those looked like the brightest ones, but that homepage doesn't really inspire confidence
20:19.31nevcairieli have wondered as well about the angle
20:19.37nevcairiel30° is not much at all
20:20.11Gnarfozthe conservative option would be these http://www.amazon.de/OSRAM-LED-Reflektor-Star-Watt/dp/B00W160SNK/  but I'm probably going to go with these for now http://www.amazon.de/SEBSON%C2%AE-4er-Pack-E14-Lampe/dp/B0126Z781A/
20:20.32Gnarfozyeah, but the dead bulb I just screwed out earlier does say 30° as well
20:20.40Gnarfozwhich is this file:///D:/Downloads/ZMP_57414_CONC_R50_SP_40_W_230_V_E14.pdf
20:20.42Gnarfozoh.
20:20.46nevcairiellol
20:20.47Gnarfozsorry about that :D
20:21.40Gnarfozhttp://www.osram.com/osram_com/products/lamps/incandescent-lamps/concentra/concentra-spot-r50/index.jsp
20:22.30nevcairieli suppose those are intentionally spot lights for some reason
20:22.38Gnarfozwell, they're
20:23.20Gnarfozhttps://goo.gl/photos/FMVLVHu13UWiW46w7 this kind of thing
20:23.23nevcairielalthough quite the low temperature on those osrams
20:23.25Gnarfozor mounted in this kind of thing
20:24.04Gnarfozso I guess you're supposed to swivel them where you need them; considering it's a kitchen that's going to be the work area and not much else
20:24.29Gnarfozdon't need to light the cabinet fronts above the working area, nor the windowsill on the opposite wall
20:24.33Gnarfoz(or the doors)
20:24.42nevcairielmakes sense
20:24.49Gnarfoz160° would probably just be wasted
20:24.58GnarfozI'll see when I get them, I guess ^^
20:25.43Gnarfozat least these SEBSON things do have a working website https://www.sebson.de/e14-led/jdr-e14-mcob-5w/a-1617/
20:25.46nevcairielanyway 6500K bulbs sound like an unusual l ighting color, its neutral white sure, but not your typical lamp
20:26.07nevcairielah those sebsons are 3000K thats probably better
20:26.21Gnarfozdefinitely not, yeah, that's the other turn-off with those ECD ones
20:26.46nevcairielyou want your TV calibrated to 6500K, but not your lamp :D
20:26.47Gnarfozthe incandescent ones are 2700K, too, so changing from that would be kind of jarring, I guess. and not sure how tasty food looks under that
20:27.18Gnarfozconsidering it's equated to "sunlight", though... shouldn't colder light make things look more natural?
20:28.03Gnarfozsebson.de Inhaber: Dipl.-Inf. Sebastian Sonntag -- heh, I guess that's where that name comes from
20:28.44nevcairiel6500K is technically normal daylight color, but still not what we're used to in  our indoor lighting
20:29.02Ironiiwhy would colder light make things look more natural?
20:29.12Ironiiwell, colder than normal daylight
20:29.55nevcairielnote that "cold" and "warm" are inverse to the color temperature, ie. warm is low color tmp since it includes more red
20:30.28nevcairieland colder than normal light just makes things look blue, definitely not more natural
20:30.56GnarfozIronii: not colder than daylight, just as cold
20:31.11nevcairielfor artificial light we're generally used to "warm" light, since thats what we had literally everywhere from fires to incandescent bulbs
20:31.34Gnarfozsure, I know why we're using what we're using, but I question the status quo! :D
20:31.36Gnarfozrebels
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20:32.03nevcairielits probably fine either way
20:32.06nevcairielespecially in a kitchen
20:32.30Gnarfozhm. I wonder what "JDR" stands for
20:34.35Ironiibut, easy solution, just buy bulbs that you can control with your smart phone ;)
20:35.04Gnarfozno thanks :D
20:39.28Ironiihttp://www.airam.fi/en/consumers/smart-led/bluetooth-dim/ O.o
20:39.49Ironiididn't know you can dim your lights with smart phone
20:40.23Ironiialthough if you can change the color, why not also dim it...
20:40.23nevcairielGnarfoz: from what i can tell JDR Halogen lamps are halogen lamps you can screw into normal bulb sockets, instead of needing a trafo
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20:41.10Gnarfozmh, makes sense, as all of these are intended as straight replacements for regular bulbs
20:41.17Gnarfozwonder what the abbreviation is, though :D
20:41.21Gnarfozprobably something french!
20:41.25nevcairielthat i couldnft figure out
20:41.29nevcairielgoogle isnt cooperating
20:41.40Gnarfozyeah, I tried, couldn't find anything
20:46.28Gnarfozpff, lol
20:46.50Gnarfozpeople are comparing "VINSUN" LEDs to those "SEBSON" LEDs on Amazon... guess what? http://www.vinsun.de/#impressum
20:47.07nevcairielhehe
20:47.15nevcairielcould still be a different brand and therefor different lamps
20:47.28Gnarfozlooks like it's their brand for more professional use
20:48.03Gnarfoz(and yeah, who knows who actually makes them/if they're just branded whatever stuff)
20:51.11Gnarfozhm, is JDR one of the shapes?
20:51.50Gnarfozhttp://www.vinsun.de/#e14
20:51.57Gnarfozcertainly seems that way
20:54.59GnarfozI haven't found a source, yet, but I'm going to guess "jutted dome reflector" or something
20:55.21Gnarfozbecause it has a dome-shaped reflector, and it juts out a bit from the socket (i.e. doesn't start right at the socket)
20:56.27nevcairielfrom what i can tell, the internet doesnt know the meaning
20:56.57GnarfozI'm wrong :(
20:57.02Gnarfozhttps://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100108064018AAdpXEU
20:57.16GnarfozJ-type (which probably means nothing in itself) with a "dichroic reflector"
21:09.49harlwhat's a good addon to synchronise macros between characters ?
21:24.47Gnarfozpfff, in what universe is this 30°? https://goo.gl/photos/WiYtN1Q4q5hTM4KbA
21:25.00GnarfozI guess I'm getting 110° ones. :P
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21:55.41Gnarfozone of each, heh
21:56.09Gnarfozit's a 3 bulb thing anyway, and the 2 remaining incandescents are bound to fail sooner rather than later
21:56.37Gnarfozcurious if the VINSUN JDRs are also COB LEDs or just SMDs
21:57.02Gnarfoz(considering COB is the "superior" tech)
22:10.30nevcairielyou spent way too much time on this
22:10.31nevcairiel:D
22:10.54nevcairieli probably would have just bought the first one that looked good enough
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23:00.47Gnarfoznevcairiel: it's what I do :D
23:01.05Gnarfoznow I know some things about LED bulbs. :P
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