IRC log for #wowace on 20160412

00:00.04Phixionwas almost unusable
00:00.16Primeryeah, I started getting emails again...thanks
00:01.14ZeldoAnyway need to head home
00:04.58StanzillaZeldo: nice, thanks
00:24.07znfhttp://i.imgur.com/9h9pqma.png
00:24.08znfuhm
00:24.10znfwho to believe?
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01:41.13nebulaStanzilla: all stuff that was needed, li ming orb changes are a buff
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03:18.31Fiskerhey Stanzilla
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05:54.59exacHey guys, can anyone tell me where I can find the documentation fo rthe AceAddon3.0?
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08:32.16Gnarfozhttp://www.wowace.com/addons/ace3/pages/
08:32.57Gnarfoz(which really is just the result of http://bfy.tw/5Dou )
08:47.02nevcairielGnarfoz: if you answer hours later, pinging him might be appropriate =p
08:55.11Gnarfoznevcairiel: oh, I didn't realize
08:55.29Gnarfozbut since my autocomplete doesn't want to complete him, I guess he's gone :p
08:55.30Gnarfoz~seen exac
08:55.33purlexac <60302ac3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.48.42.195> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3h 34s ago, saying: 'Hey guys, can anyone tell me where I can find the documentation fo rthe AceAddon3.0?'.
08:56.05nevcairielguess so
08:58.58Gnarfozjoins/parts/quits are for beginners 
09:00.50hasteturn on smart filter if you use weechat
09:01.07hastethat way you only see join/part/leave/quit if the person has been active within a set time limit
09:28.36GnarfozI don't
09:28.49Gnarfozbut that sounds like a vaguely interesting feature
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09:43.49FiskerThe shipment will be transported to the destination country and, from there, handed over to the delivery organization. (Homepage / online shipment tracking: )
09:43.50Fiskeryes
09:43.52Fiskeryeeeeeeeees
09:46.18Gnarfozyes
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10:07.57nevcairielno
10:07.59nevcairielnoooooooooo
10:10.10Fiskerwhy nevcairiel ?
10:26.18znfGnarfoz, in your oppinion
10:26.36znfwhat would be wrong with a server if, quote client: "it beeps 3 times then it hangs"
10:26.49znfand it needs an actual unplug from the outlet to boot back up
10:27.12znfand IPMI can't turn it on or off (ie: I power it off with ipmi, but the power status stays on)
10:29.06Gnarfozit's... broken?
10:29.24Gnarfoz"BIOS beeps" vary from vendor to vendor, so good luck finding what that means in your case
10:29.56Gnarfozcould be a broken BMC, if server control operations like that don't work properly
10:30.43Gnarfozor maybe the BMC just crashed, but then this behaviour should stop once you leave the server without power for a while (~10 minutes, some vendors recommend holding the power button for ~1 minute while the server is unplugged)
10:34.14znfI cold rebooted the BMC
10:34.34Gnarfozhow?
10:34.38znfthough, bmc being faulty somehow shouldn't affect the OS
10:34.53Gnarfozit shouldn't, unless you have some kind of BMC driver installed in the OS
10:35.00Gnarfoz(but you didn't say anything about the OS before)
10:35.07znfGnarfoz, ipmitool -I lanplus -H ... bmc reset cold
10:35.23Gnarfozyeah, that's not going to be reliable, if it has trouble turning the server off
10:35.41Gnarfozor rather, I'd not trust it
10:35.43znfwell, it becomes unavailable while it reboots, so I guess it does something
10:35.48GnarfozI guess
10:35.58Gnarfozdon't your servers have real remote management?
10:36.00znfanyway, my issues is with the actual server/os crashing
10:36.07znfthis is a clients server at his location
10:36.08GnarfoziDRAC, iLO, iRMC?
10:36.17znfI guess no iDRAC
10:36.20Gnarfozwell, sure, I mean... if they have a BMC, don't they have a frontend for it
10:36.48znfapparently iDRAC needs a license of some sorts, or at least that's what I figured out
10:37.16znfI only managed to get the damn thing get an IP from dhcp
10:37.21znfand remote connect to it
10:37.35znfthe thing is, sol is not working, so I can't enter the bios to enable options :-/
10:37.48znfor, rather, I can't powercycle the damn thing
10:40.31Gnarfozyeah, doesn't sound like it has real remote management
10:40.44Gnarfoz(and yes, idrac is a feature you have to buy)
10:40.47znfHmmm.
10:40.54znfI did sol activate (so I connected the console)
10:40.59Gnarfozno idea what that is
10:41.00znfand then I did echo "22222222222222222222222222222222222222" > /dev/ttyS0
10:41.06znfserial console
10:41.13znfand I got the output in the sol thignie
10:41.51GnarfozI've only used this stuff on servers that have "full" iDRAC/iLO/iRMC/Intel RMM, where you get a website and can do everything from there
10:42.31Gnarfoz(and my experience with ipmitool is... limited, I think I abused it to query a temperature sensor box we have)
10:42.39Gnarfozwait, that might have been snmptool. :D
10:42.53znfthat thing should be illegal
10:43.01znfto sell ipmi-only-without-idrac!
10:43.35nevcairielit should also be illegal to have a sysadmin that knows nothing of what he does
10:43.43nevcairielbut alas znf exists
10:43.44nevcairiel:)
10:44.12znfpft, Gnarfoz doesn't know ipmi, either
10:44.20znfwhy do you expect me to know it?
10:45.49winkDo you even ipmi, bro?
10:46.27znfthe shitty part is that this started happening after we made a new VM on that server
10:46.41znfIt used to run just a single VM with 4GB (out of 8) allocated
10:46.47Gnarfoznevcairiel: well, see my rant yesterday about other sysadmin not knowing freenas is not linux, and also, that linux isn't a unix derivative (freebsd is, remotely, although he also didn't really know how or why :P)
10:47.07znfI made a new VM with 3GB ram, I configured a fresh email server
10:47.09znfstarted migrating
10:47.15znfstuff started crashing
10:47.23Gnarfoz at least znf has enough motivation to dig through things, can't say that for some of my coworkers :(
10:47.29nevcairielGnarfoz: clearly znf isnt the only one
10:48.05GnarfozI linked him the unix family tree map thing from Wikipedia and a "sigh" emoji
10:48.06Gnarfoz:p
10:48.34znfNow I resized the VMs to 2GB and 1GB, so I'm using less memory than before, stuff's still crashing
10:49.12znf(I was hoping that it could be memory related, and I'm hitting some bad chips somehow, which sounds stupid, but at least it's something)
10:49.15nevcairielalso it depends who you ask, better dont bring sco into this!
10:50.59znfofc, if I tell the client that his server started fucking up, he's all "but this worked before you made changes"
10:51.12winkwhich is techincally true :/
10:51.29znfcorrect
10:51.39nevcairieltechnically correct, the best kind of correct
10:54.18Funkeh`was wondering why the fuck a little avatar icon was appearing on my chrome taskbar icon, somehow created an additional profile called "person 1"
10:54.39Funkeh`deleting it restores it to a normal chrome icon
10:55.12znfso, if I just echo'd stuff to /dev/ttyS0, which is COM1, and I got the output, that means the SOL is working
10:57.03znfunrelated http://i.imgur.com/eEcggOn.png
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11:08.12znfBarracuda are dicks. "Low reputation" for the IP... I mean, I even have DKIM, you dicks!
11:12.36GnarfozRBLs are dicks by nature
11:13.19GnarfozFunkeh`: you're subtly developing multiple chrome personality disorder
11:13.41Funkeh`:o
11:16.16znfBarracuda is being funny
11:16.26znf"here, pay for this service, and we'll whitelist you"
11:16.27znffuck off
11:19.30nevcairielhow do you think RBLs make money
11:19.37nevcairielits practically extortion
11:40.12znfwow, now that's some reply time
11:40.21znfour former CEO sent an e-mail to RoNIX in 2011
11:40.28znfToday this guy from the NIX replied
11:40.31znfonly after 5 years
11:43.14NuSueybtw great project: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2034205905/new-superhero-mmo-among-us LOL "I HAZ MANY DEVELOPERS, GIEF 5 MILION DOLLARSSSS PLXXXX" :D
11:44.19Gnarfozznf: probably new guy with "empty inbox syndrome" :D
11:44.22hasteseems legit man
11:45.20GnarfozNuSuey: "There are no risk and challenges" :D
11:45.52NuSueyGnarfoz: completely legit..
11:46.06NuSueyeverything will be fine, just give me the millions plx :D
12:20.48FiskerDat HTC Nexus though Stanzilla
12:20.54Fiskerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IJWckL5L84
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14:34.07Gnarfoznevcairiel: http://www.computerbase.de/2016-04/gigabit-internet-google-fiber-wird-teurer-guenstiger-und-schneller/ I hates them. :p
14:45.52FiskerWhat does it say?
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14:49.46Funkeh`Fisker, right click and hit that translate button!
14:50.00StanzillaFisker: hoping for a flat back though
14:50.22Fiskernever
14:50.26Stanzillawhy not
14:52.37Fiskerdunno
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15:14.13FiskerCan it be nevcairiel ?
15:14.14Fiskerhttp://i.imgur.com/8xBbpB5.png
15:15.30nevcairielit could be that they push a  new Ti out r ight away to fight AMD, who knows
15:15.39GnarfozFIGHT
15:17.20nevcairiellast rumors i heard is that third-party vendors dont have access to the new boards yet though, so not likely to have anything but reference at launch
15:21.59Gnarfozwhen is that?
15:26.18FiskerJune apparently
15:28.13FiskerI want my package
15:28.20GnarfozI want your package, too
15:29.00Gnarfoznot sure I need a G-Forz 2160p GTXXX, though
15:30.39nevcairielneed is such a static term
15:33.06nevcairieli probably dont need any new hardware for the next couple years
15:33.12nevcairieldoesnt stop me from buying some =p
15:33.35quiescensgives nev 2 bytes of ram
15:34.16Gnarfozdownloads all of quiescens' RAM
15:34.24quiescens):
15:34.38Gnarfozmaybe it would run Overwatch at 10000 fps
16:07.30Stanzillahttp://prebake.eu/
16:10.12Stanzillain ublock origin as  EU: Prebake - Filter Obtrusive Cookie Notices‎
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16:26.54Gnarfozit's funny name day
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17:19.26Stanzillaonly 13 windows updates
18:14.42FiskerI'll update u
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18:44.34Stanzillapretty sick bundle tbh https://www.humblebundle.com/telltale-bundle?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Link&utm_campaign=Humble_Tell_Tale_Bundle
18:50.39StanzillaFisker: games is out, 4/6 icons!
18:52.42quiescenso.o
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19:21.20GnarfozI need faster interwebs. Downloading something from Steam and watching a 4K YT video at the same time = no go :|
19:21.48quiescensthrottle something
19:22.47GnarfozYouTube has done that on its own, but that's rather noticeable
19:22.51quiescensif your steam download wasn't able to saturate the connection you would be upset that it wasn't
19:22.54quiescenso.o
19:23.26GnarfozI just said need moar interwebs, not need slower Steam :P
19:23.57quiescensif you weren't watching youtubes you would be happy about your steam download saturating your connection ):
19:24.55quiescenseven if you had a faster connection steam would very probably still max it out
19:25.53quiescens):
19:26.59FiskerNo new icons on android tv though Stanzilla
19:35.03StanzillaFisker: the apk wont install for me
19:35.06Stanzillano idea why
19:35.11Fisker:(
19:35.13FiskerN?
19:35.17Stanzillajust says "app not installed"
19:35.18Stanzillanope, m
19:35.28StanzillaI tried the dpi agnostic version too
19:35.29Stanzillasame shit
19:40.14quiescensblame znf
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19:51.21Gnarfozso HTC basically cut the one corner everyone is fine with, by not wasting time updating their own shit apps to Android 6? good. :D
19:52.15Stanzillayup
20:11.49Megalonbut i like to have one google and one manufacturer version of each and every app
20:11.55Megalonhelps being schizo
20:23.22FiskerThe HTC 10 is just a metal Nexus 6 Gnarfoz
20:27.24Gnarfozexcept better in almost every conceivable way :O
20:29.21FiskerExcept it's not nexus
20:29.23znfwhy does US do this? https://www.google.ro/maps/@36.9096034,-101.4521946,28567m/data=!3m1!1e3
20:29.49FiskerWhy not?
20:30.16znfsquare would cover stuff better?
20:30.51Gnarfozuhm
20:31.25Gnarfozznf: because in the middle there's a pivot, around which an arm rotates that waters the field
20:31.29Gnarfozhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_pivot_irrigation
20:31.33znfinteresting
20:31.42FiskerWhy are they growing stuff in the middle of the desert Gnarfoz
20:31.42Fiskerpls
20:31.46Gnarfozif you manage to make one that's reliable and can reach into the corners, you can stop doing crap .ro IT
20:32.02GnarfozFisker: because they don't have anywhere else (or not for a price they're willing to pay)
20:32.35FiskerThe real answer is really that they're making crop circles for aliens
20:32.35znfI like IT better
20:32.37znfalso, drones!
20:32.43Gnarfozhttps://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pivot-Beregnungssystem#/media/File:Crop_circles_north_of_Umatilla,_Oregon,_USA.jpg nicer picture than english WP, good guy German WP
20:32.47FiskerJokes on them etc
20:33.40znfThe outside set of wheels sets the master pace for the rotation (typically once every three days)
20:33.40znfcool
20:33.41GnarfozStanzilla: ugh, new google music icon also on the website :p
20:33.59Stanzillaye
20:35.01FiskerGood
20:35.07Fiskernew google play icons master race
20:35.13FiskerExcept they didn't think about android tv
21:25.52Stanzillafix me, Fisker
21:26.00Fiskernope
21:26.13StanzillaI dont know why it errors :<
21:26.20Fisker:(
21:26.27FiskerDid you try installing it over adb?
21:26.34FiskerIt actually tells you why it won't
21:26.51Stanzillahrm nope
21:26.58Stanzillais it adb install <path>?
21:27.36Fiskerinstall -r if you need to upgrade I think
21:27.43StanzillaFailure [INSTALL_FAILED_NO_MATCHING_ABIS]
21:28.44Stanzillaoh its 64bit
21:28.46Stanzillamakes sense
21:29.30Fiskerrekt
21:29.38Stanzillayes
21:30.17FiskerWant the new kindle?
21:30.33Stanzillanah
21:58.48Gnarfozderp... was looking at Autoruns and was confused why under HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\KnownDlls it would list some world of warcraft files... forgot for a minute that wow also means Windows on Windows
21:59.13MegalonWindows on Windows
21:59.19Megalonsounds like weird nerdpr0n
21:59.20Gnarfozyep, 2 Windows, 1 PC
22:00.11nevcairielSysWOW64, every windows comes with world of warcraft!
22:01.22Megalonso windows literally runs on wow
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22:19.48nevcairielif you run 32-bit WoW, then it runs on WOW64 =p
22:23.44Stanzilla@_JohnYang: I move from the @Diablo team to the @Warcraft team a few months ago. I've been focused on making Legendary Items for the Legion expansion.
22:23.48Stanzillathat expaines
22:23.49StanzillaSO MUCH
22:26.38nevcairielhavent read hate threads about the legendaries for a while
22:26.54nevcairielright now everyone hates Mythic+ for some reason, apparently people hate features
22:27.24nevcairielas if the presence of something new actively destroys their enjoyment of the game
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22:29.43Stanzillathe only problem I have with legendaries is the balance
22:29.48Stanzillabut apart from that i like them
22:30.44nevcairielmythic raid balance is controlled by banning them for a while, and noone cares about balance in other modes, just let them people have fun :)
22:31.39nevcairielobviously people that have such an item will  be stronger than those without, otherwise they would be pointless
23:01.58Stanzillahnnng https://goo.gl/photos/997HxdKKWRGZB9R97
23:02.16nevcairielhaha
23:02.57Stanzillawonder who names himself that
23:03.27Stanzillaprivate profile ofc
23:03.29Stanzilladamn him
23:08.53Ressyawwww
23:21.29Megalonyou can still be 574nz!114
23:21.43Megalonand you know YOU will always be our Stanzilla, Stanzilla-san
23:21.43Megalonbaka
23:23.39Gnarfoznevcairiel: I haven't been keeping up much: what is Mythic+?
23:24.14nevcairielnew name for their scaling challenge modes
23:24.18nevcairielalthough name still TBD
23:25.15Gnarfozah, ok
23:25.27Megalonat least you get Stanzilla1, i got starfox51323
23:25.33Megalonthat's a lot of them
23:26.19GnarfozStanzilla: is that something new in the app version with the new logo?
23:27.35StanzillaGnarfoz: it was a server side unlock but I got it in this version yeah
23:27.46Stanzillayou could have gotten it before though
23:27.54Gnarfozlol, I haven't had Play games installed for ages; it says "I might know" Ressy, Slouken
23:28.08GnarfozStanzilla: I don't think so, at least I don't see anything like that anywhere
23:28.15Stanzillaok
23:28.17Gnarfozit just lists my G+ info
23:28.20Stanzillaand Megalon I used my twitter handle now
23:28.36Gnarfozxxdarkstanz0rxx
23:28.37Gnarfoz?
23:28.37Gnarfoz:D
23:29.02StanzillaStanzillaz
23:30.18Gnarfozwhoo, I am rank 5, "Casual Games Master"
23:30.23Gnarfozthey know me so well
23:30.33nevcairielsounds right
23:30.59GnarfozI don't even have that new logo version anyway, pfff rollouts.
23:32.02Gnarfoz3.7.20?
23:32.22Stanzillaye
23:32.50Gnarfozgotta get used to having to download arm64 stuff now
23:33.18Stanzillayeah dont make my mistake in the reverse :D
23:34.13GnarfozCaffeinatedVirgo168!
23:43.02PhixionStanzilla: the N update
23:43.05Phixionany news?
23:43.45Stanzillanext week afaik
23:44.30PhixionI see
23:44.43Phixionbeen playing with remixos on my n9 today
23:48.31Stanzillaany good?
23:59.17pompyhaha gg Massive ... https://twitter.com/TheDivisionGame/status/720030448546627584

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