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| 02:07.40 | oscarucb | Wowace packager appears to be stuck |
| 02:07.50 | Repo | New experimental addon: ElvUI Currencies Datatext - http://www.wowace.com/addons/elvui-currencies-datatext/ |
| 02:08.43 | Repo | saved_instances: 03oscarucb 046.3.0 beta 1 * r494 : Tagging as 6.3.0 beta 1 |
| 02:10.08 | oscarucb | That was quite a long delay, even when it appeared to be idle |
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| 02:57.29 | Repo | elvui-currencies-datatext (experimental): 03Alexstraszaa * r2 (14 files in 2 directories): Initial commit |
| 03:01.54 | Repo | New addon: ElvUI Currencies Datatext - http://www.wowace.com/addons/elvui-currencies-datatext/ |
| 03:05.37 | Repo | elvui-currencies-datatext: 03Alexstraszaa * r3 (13 files in 2 directories): Syndication |
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| 04:42.36 | Repo | elvui-currencies-datatext: 03Alexstraszaa * r4 (10 files in 2 directories): v2.02b |
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| 04:54.56 | Repo | elvui-currencies-datatext: 03Alexstraszaa * r5 (12 files in 2 directories): V2.03 |
| 05:06.11 | pompy | oh ok |
| 05:39.00 | Torhal | oscarucb: WHich project, and did it eventually work? |
| 05:42.40 | oscarucb | The second time I mentioned it was saved_instances - the packager appeared to be idle but it took over 5 min for the commit to show on Repo and be packaged |
| 05:43.38 | oscarucb | The first was Postal r396 whcih I committed two days ago and still has not packaged |
| 05:45.22 | Torhal | oscarucb: Ok. I'm not going to queue Postal - since Zeldo has commandeered permission to alter the site's code, I'm leaving it as-is so he can triage. |
| 05:46.03 | oscarucb | yea no rush, it was a very minor change anyhow |
| 05:46.45 | Torhal | I'd love for this to be done and over with, or I'd queue it for a zip now. Don't want to sabotage the investigation, though. |
| 05:51.38 | Fisker | rawr |
| 05:57.03 | oscarucb | Torhal: I totally agree. The packager instability is the currently the biggest curseforge nuisance imo, would be great to have that fixed for good. |
| 05:57.54 | Torhal | Biggest CurseForge nuisance is the biggest WowAce downfall, IMO. |
| 05:58.52 | oscarucb | Zeldo the Magical fixed all my other big wowace complaints, so I have faith in his efforts :) |
| 05:59.59 | Torhal | It isn't so much that he's magical as that he snuck shit in while doing security updates. Ballsy? Most definitely. Magical? No. |
| 06:00.01 | Torhal | :D |
| 06:00.13 | Torhal | He's a hell of a guy, though. |
| 06:02.29 | oscarucb | Well, several of the major nuisances he fixed are 5+ years old, which I think predates the "new site". So he's still a magical hero in my book. |
| 06:04.22 | Torhal | It's stuff that I absolutely would have done as soon as it happened except for blowback from the person who is (was) maintaining the site. Then as soon as it went into "maintenance mode" and we were concentrating solely on the new stack, doing so was beyond a no-go. |
| 06:05.10 | Torhal | That's why I say he commandeered - I was told without question that I was not to do it. |
| 06:05.17 | Torhal | :/ |
| 06:05.28 | Torhal | I'm glad he did; don't get me wrong. |
| 06:05.30 | Fisker | I once killed a guy |
| 06:05.33 | Torhal | This shit needed to be fixed. |
| 06:05.46 | *** kick/#wowace [Fisker!Torhal@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedb:9160] by Torhal (Murderer.) |
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| 06:06.00 | Fisker | abuse |
| 06:06.25 | Torhal | abuse@curse.com - Do it! |
| 06:06.52 | Torhal | To be totally honest, I have no clue if that's a valid e-mail address. |
| 06:08.14 | oscarucb | So is the "new site" project dead then? Or are they planning to break our dev platform while we work on Legion addons? |
| 06:09.12 | Torhal | The new site took a backseat to the new Curse App (formerly Curse Client) in December. I left the team in September, so I can't actually comment on what their timeline is. |
| 06:12.37 | oscarucb | Speaking as an average dev, I hope they leave it alone - I'd take functional and ugly over broken with eye candy any day, especially for a dev platform |
| 06:12.58 | Torhal | oscarucb: Just to be clear, he didn't know about most of the major nuisances until I said "While you're in there..." |
| 06:13.23 | Torhal | The "Reverse relationships" was a big one. April 2011, IIRC. |
| 06:16.15 | oscarucb | The ticket system problem was a design flaw in the orignal site, complaints going back to 2008 |
| 06:16.23 | Torhal | Oh, definitely. |
| 06:16.45 | Torhal | But there are still aplethora of issues with the original site. |
| 06:17.13 | Torhal | Most of which simply cannot be fixed in a simple "Let's investigate what's going on" manner. |
| 06:17.58 | Torhal | He'll fix things that are obviously broken, and which mostly used to work. Beyond that, though... doubtful. |
| 06:18.04 | oscarucb | IMO the dev resources spent on making a "prettier" site would have been better spent on feature upgrades to the working one, but thats just my 2c |
| 06:18.48 | Torhal | The existing platform is just shit. The new site is much more robust under the hood. It isn't just about "prettier" overall. |
| 06:19.34 | Torhal | There's also the notion that the old site is Python, of which we have exactly one developer fluent in, and the new site has a shared codebase with most of our current sites and over 30 fluent devs. |
| 06:20.37 | oscarucb | I'm just talking from the perspective of an end user addon dev, not a site admin or site dev |
| 06:20.38 | Torhal | There's also the problem that we have small dev teams. |
| 06:20.59 | Torhal | And the CF team was pulled to the App for the past three months. |
| 06:21.14 | Torhal | Err... five. |
| 06:21.51 | Torhal | And when I said "30 devs" I was forgetting the company split in September. |
| 06:22.59 | Torhal | We now have a Media Division (which deals with community sites, such as MMO-Champion, Diablofans, etc) amd teh Web Team, which deals with the App and things like Curse.com and Curseforge. |
| 06:23.07 | Torhal | CurseForge* |
| 06:24.06 | Torhal | So with that split there is a period of alignment. |
| 06:24.50 | Torhal | Not making excuses; it is what it is. People who have no prior experience are now working on projects that are outside of their wheelhouse. |
| 06:26.11 | Torhal | The end-goal of the split was the ability to focus, though, so as soon as the App is where it needs to be, the CurseForge dev team will be solely concentrated on that project. |
| 06:26.27 | Torhal | This means a much faster turnaround on feature requests and polish. |
| 06:26.33 | oscarucb | Long as they don't break our site during the Legion scramble, I'm happy. |
| 06:26.51 | Torhal | I'll kill them all if they break it, oscarucb. |
| 06:26.52 | Torhal | >.> |
| 06:26.53 | Torhal | <.< |
| 06:27.29 | Torhal | Probably not, but I'll definitely yell. |
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| 07:20.39 | nevcairiel | I find it odd that web devs get pulled to app duty, but shrug |
| 08:19.30 | Gethe | nevcairiel: unless they are using something like electron to make the app |
| 08:40.20 | quiescens | moo |
| 08:43.10 | Semlar | milks quiescens |
| 08:43.14 | quiescens | dies. |
| 08:54.55 | Torhal | encapsulates Semlar in Gethe's toilet. |
| 08:55.13 | Semlar | torhal's talking to himself again |
| 08:56.25 | Torhal | Amarandes Semlar. |
| 08:56.37 | Semlar | no i use protection |
| 08:57.21 | Torhal | Sorry, laddie; there was a bit of a rip. |
| 08:57.44 | Semlar | am i pregnant now |
| 08:58.55 | Torhal | I'm afraid it's much worse than that; you're now fully opinionated with the capacity to talk out of your ass. |
| 09:00.31 | Torhal | I'm sorry; I forgot to mention that the capacity was bundled with a predilection. |
| 09:01.25 | Semlar | torhal why is assembly so confusing |
| 09:01.46 | Torhal | I've also secured the funds to ensure that quiescens will direct all of your speech for the forseeable future. |
| 09:01.51 | Semlar | actually why isn't there something that can convert assembly to a higher level language |
| 09:02.00 | quiescens | o.o |
| 09:02.03 | Semlar | shouldn't that be fairly stragithforward |
| 09:02.11 | Semlar | straightforward |
| 09:02.21 | Torhal | You're an unreasonable being, Semlar. You should probably stop that. |
| 09:02.32 | Semlar | I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THIS |
| 09:02.37 | Torhal | Also, water your floorboard biome, |
| 09:02.38 | quiescens | go to sleep |
| 09:02.39 | Semlar | IT'S ALL BITS AND BYTSE |
| 09:02.45 | Semlar | wow maybe i should go to sleep |
| 09:02.56 | Semlar | i'm slurring my keys |
| 09:03.09 | Semlar | but i just got up |
| 09:04.25 | Torhal | I know it's a bit early, but I think that perhaps quiescens should give you a Darwin Award, Semlar. |
| 09:04.33 | Torhal | Because irony. |
| 09:04.49 | Semlar | rude |
| 09:04.55 | Torhal | :O |
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| 12:40.17 | Stanzilla | Gethe nevcairiel they do, curse is an electron app |
| 12:41.52 | nevcairiel | no wonder its this terrible |
| 12:42.30 | Stanzilla | your face is terrible |
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| 16:29.45 | Zeldo | Oscarucb I won't be able to investigate that until I am in the office on Monday, is that okay or will you need that packaged before then? |
| 18:12.13 | Kesava | you bastard Stanzilla |
| 18:14.39 | Stanzilla | what |
| 18:14.40 | Stanzilla | why me |
| 18:14.53 | Kesava | you have overwatch |
| 18:14.58 | Kesava | literally everyone but me has overwatch |
| 18:15.08 | Stanzilla | : ( |
| 18:15.11 | Stanzilla | I'm sorry? |
| 18:15.13 | Kesava | yes |
| 18:32.41 | Repo | weakauras-2: 03Stanzilla 07master * 2.1.0.25-1-ge3f5c96 (3 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Fixes for Tickets (#34) |
| 18:33.19 | Repo | weakauras-2: 03Stanzilla 042.1.0.26 * 8915f63 /: [new tag] |
| 18:46.56 | Repo | elvui-draenor-currencies: 03Alexstraszaa * r13 (4 files in 1 directory): v1.08 |
| 19:22.56 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla: ticket 34? seems wrong =p |
| 19:24.55 | Stanzilla | windeed |
| 20:12.19 | quiescens | nerf stanzilla |
| 20:12.21 | quiescens | o.o |
| 20:13.30 | Stanzilla | quiescens: why do you never buff |
| 20:15.57 | quiescens | ): |
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| 22:43.08 | harlchen | when i move the Interface/settings frame, there is what seems like an underlying frame/mover that moves on a different scale from the actual (visible) frame, but only when i drag it by the title "bar" but not when i drag it by any other part.. |
| 22:43.22 | harlchen | is that a bug with the actual frames or is it one of my addons.. |
| 22:47.19 | harlchen | just saw there was an update to BetterBlizzOptions.. and disabling it solves the issue.. not sure if BBO is the actual cause though |
| 22:54.05 | harlchen | yea ok, i probably shouldn't load Blizzmove *and* DragEmAll at the same time |
| 22:59.41 | harlchen | i'm not sure which one is more effective at what it does |
| 23:00.40 | harlchen | nor which one's code is more efficient |
| 23:04.14 | harlchen | my uneducated guess is that Blizzmove (+ MoveAnything) may be the more compatible choice |