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08:05.15Fiskerapril 5th supposedly nevcairiel
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10:12.57Stanzilla[...] We have just released the fourth PC patch for Rise of the Tomb Raider, build 1.0.629.3.  [...] Added some logic to retroactively grant achievements in cases where Steam failed to grant them shortly after release.
10:12.59Stanzillanice
10:46.59Fiskernice
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12:13.14GnarfozI wonder if I can manage to order parts and build a server before easter, I kind of want to (but on the other hand, I don't really need to) :D
12:16.01nevcairieljust do it, why wonder =p
12:17.09Gnarfoz:D because effort
12:53.15znfrant of the day
12:53.16znffuck systemd
12:54.27Megalonis it over??
12:54.35Megalonare we done? was that it?
12:54.47znftried resetting root password
12:54.49znfdidn't really work
13:02.02GnarfozI can get behind hating on systemd
13:11.41Stanzillagreat the new Curse.com version displays the cookie warning at the top and at the bottom, almost missed it!
13:12.08nevcairielbetter s how it twice, the EU might sue you otherwise
13:12.57Stanzillawow MC nevcairiel at the mic today
13:12.58Stanzillarap god
13:19.35Funkeh`http://arstechnica.co.uk/security/2016/03/more-than-13-million-https-websites-imperiled-by-new-decryption-attack/
13:19.39Funkeh`it's that time of the month
13:19.52nevcairielany serious admin has SSLv2 already turned off
13:23.47Funkeh`I wonder if 1.1.0 removes it
13:29.58Funkeh`yes it does, good
13:30.20Funkeh`https://www.openssl.org/news/openssl-1.1.0-notes.html
13:38.24znfhates java and systemd today
13:54.31GnarfozStanzilla: they want to make us crave cookies
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14:38.58znfso, do we get like at least one ssl vulnerability each year now?
14:39.18TorhalYou get three, znf.
14:39.34znfall this trouble, simpler to not use https!
14:39.39Ressy....
14:39.40znf(yes I know it affects other stuff)
14:39.52RessyFeel free not to. Everyone else will continue to use it.
14:43.20znfalso, who the hell came up with this trend of naminv vulnerabilities?
14:46.10TorhalPeople who want to be able to easily reference exactly what the fuck someone is referring to.
14:51.27Funkeh`https://test.drownattack.com/?site=twitter.com
14:51.33Funkeh`tut tut twitter
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15:13.29znfoh, cool, nice going there, CEDO
15:14.03znfor, ECtHR
15:14.05znfw/e it's called
15:14.31znfThey could be forcing Romania to spend 8eur/day/prisoner
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15:44.41digorathhi. last week i wrote my first addon and decided that i want to upload it to curse. so... i created a project on wowace.com and see the "This project has no files!" message. I continued and created a repository (git) and committed and pushed my files. but i still see no files online. i got a pm that my project is approved. do i just need to wait for the approval of my files as well until htey show up at all, or do i need to do someth
15:45.36Megalonprobably Torhal's beard got stuck in the machinery again
15:47.08digorathand that would result in what precisely? xD
15:49.42Torhaldigorath: Project link?
15:49.59digorathhttp://www.wowace.com/addons/bss/
15:51.41Torhaldigorath: Look now.
15:51.48TorhalI had to manually queue the project
15:52.27digorathi see it now, thx. was it because i did something wrong, or is that normal?
15:52.35Torhaldigorath: It'll still say that it "has no files" because you only have an alpha version.
15:52.48TorhalThe packager has been screwy for a few years now.
15:52.54TorhalMost of the time, it works.
15:52.57TorhalAnd then it doesn't.
15:53.18digorathalright, thank you so far :)
15:53.40Torhalnp :D
15:59.00digorathalright, it works now and is available on curse :)
16:12.14digorathif i change the main category in the repo. when do i need to make a new file in order to update the category on curse? i accidentally left it on the wrong main category initially :(
16:12.29digorathmy addon has nothing to do with achievements at all
16:19.39digorath-when
16:20.47Semlaryou can go change the category on curseforge
16:21.22Semlaryou don't have to upload a new file for it to change
16:21.37Gnarfozcan't upload files on wowace anyway
16:21.49Semlaroh right wowace
16:24.16znfbe me, have many multiflexes
16:24.20znfhave one multiflex with 2 free hdd bays
16:24.32znfput 2 new hdds in there
16:24.37znfstorage controller reboots
16:24.38digorathoO but i got a project and repo on wowace. if i search for it on curseforge it just sends me to my wowace project site. i already switched the category main category of the project, but curse still has the old one
16:24.51znfbringing down 5 client servers
16:24.52znf...?!
16:31.19pompyis wow having issues right now?
16:32.26Semlarcurse doesn't update immediately with changes to your addon because it uses a load balancer or something and the cached information sticks around until it's updated
16:32.50digorathalright, i will wait then, ty
16:32.51Semlarit will eventually update
16:33.15digorathi hope so. it is slightly confusing this way ;)
16:34.36digorathty for the info. i need to do some other stuff for now. bb
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16:54.25Gnarfozznf: http://www.edi-atl.net/Configuration_Diagram.pdf this junk?
16:54.40znfyeah
16:57.11znf"Controller reset by firmware"
16:57.14znfmuch helpful, very wow
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17:22.36StanzillaTorhal: http://blog.sourcetreeapp.com/2016/03/01/sourcetree-design-whats-next/
17:23.48Stanzillatbh that doesnt look that bad http://blog.sourcetreeapp.com/files/2016/02/full_screen.png
17:24.15Fiskerhey Stanzilla
17:25.03FiskerAre you also having weird temp issues with your sourcetree?
17:26.35Stanzillawhat exactly?
17:27.21Fiskerlooking at a commit I get something like "some %localappdata%\temp\file.xyz could not be found"
17:27.39Stanzillahrm nope, havent had that yet
17:37.03Fiskerxc Damn
17:37.05FiskerDamn*
17:37.11FiskerEven killed a guy
17:37.17FiskerHe was weird though
17:37.25Fiskerkept apologizing
17:37.34FiskerEven though I told him it wasn't his fault
17:37.44StanzillaI see Curse is using React now
17:39.23Stanzillabut no longer has a favicon
17:39.25Stanzillawellll
17:41.44Fiskerfavicons are so 2000's and late
17:42.55Stanzillatheir replacement is 404, so yeah
17:43.06StanzillaTorhal: what is Radon? The name for the curse site itself?
17:44.21FiskerThink its something you don't drink Stanzilla
17:44.39FiskerBut I hear it causes cancer so a++ project name
17:51.47Stanzillaholy console spam batman http://i.imgur.com/Loo5t4Z.png
17:52.47nevcairielhalf of those are caused by your adblocker =p
17:53.11StanzillaI obviously didn't mean those
17:54.11TorhalStanzilla: Yes
17:54.19TorhalInternal naming convention.
17:54.28TorhalOld CurseForge is Trinium, new is Elerium.
17:54.28Stanzillayeah, figured
17:54.53Stanzillalook at the sourcetree screenshot
17:54.56StanzillaI actually like it
17:55.12Fiskeradblocking is the worst
17:55.14Fiskershould be illegal
17:56.19TorhalStanzilla: Look at the diff output in the 2012 screenshot.
17:57.18StanzillaTorhal: what about it?
17:57.33Torhal"24 lines added, 6 lines removed"
17:58.07Stanzillacan probably scroll the view?
17:58.26TorhalThere's a small sense of accomplishment when you retain functionality and see "10 lines added, 96 removed" and the code works exactly as before.
17:58.45TorhalThat's been gone for years now in SourceTree. :/
17:59.18Stanzillaoh you mean how that summary line is gone?
17:59.22TorhalYeah.
18:00.12FiskerI like the new sourcetree
18:00.19FiskerEspecially if it's worse on Mac
18:00.29Stanzillaplease don't tell me you are an Atlassian fanboy, too
18:00.31nevcairieleverything should be worse on macs
18:00.36FiskerYeah
18:00.41TorhalIt's better on Mac. Doesn't mean you're not being an idiot, though.
18:01.03TorhalThe Windows version is so broken.
18:01.04FiskerDon't take that nevcairiel
18:01.17TorhalI was talking to you, but he was being a basher as well.
18:01.18FiskerStanzilla I don't know any better client
18:01.34nevcairielCLI is the better client!
18:01.35nevcairiel:D
18:02.03Fisker:P
18:02.21FiskerThen I'm a Microsoft fanboy for using conhost.exe
18:02.32FiskerIt's hard having opinions these days
18:02.40TorhalNaw, Fisker. You're Nexus all the way.
18:02.42nevcairielI use a combination of CLI and a web ui for reviewing changes
18:03.22FiskerI need to do my powershell thing
18:03.34nevcairieli never got into powershell
18:03.47FiskerIt's amazing
18:03.59TorhalI hear you can do amazing things with PowerShell if you survive the learning process.
18:04.11nevcairielsounds like Git CLI
18:04.54FiskerIt's just commandline .net
18:05.02pompySmartGitHg
18:06.26TorhalThe Windows version of SourceTree is (or at least was) so broken that you have to wait for the UI to completely draw (yes... wait) after changing branches before doing ANYTHING.
18:06.50TorhalOur DB guy once pushed his changes to OUR branch because he click-click-clicked as fast as he could.
18:07.04TorhalDespite being told that it was dog-ass slow and to wait for the UI to catch up.
18:07.37Ressyo.O
18:07.47nevcairielthats what happens when a tool sucks and is badly ported to other platforms, instead of either being properly cross platform from the start or a native app
18:11.33TorhalI think they actually wrote it from scratch and tried their best to style it after the original. It was completely missing features at first, then they slowly started adding them.
18:11.48nevcairielthen they just suck, i suppose
18:12.03Stanzillayes they do
18:12.06Stanzillayou still cant force push
18:12.17FiskerYou shouldn't be able to
18:12.23Stanzillayes you should
18:12.30TorhalForce-pushes Fisker.
18:12.31FiskerNope
18:12.50nevcairielsounds like the adventures of the curse client, just in the reverse direction
18:12.54StanzillaFisker is probably the guy on github that closes and reopens pull requests every time he changes something
18:13.09nevcairieli get totally annoyed by people that do that
18:13.19Stanzillaconfirmed Fisker then
18:14.05TorhalStanzilla: Kinda sounds like people who push to WowAce every time they make a Git commit.
18:14.15Torhal...this isn't Subversion!
18:14.48nevcairielsome people seem to just to convert to Git because its cool
18:14.52FiskerWhy would you make a pull request Stanzilla ?
18:15.00nevcairieland then complain because nothing works like they want it to
18:15.47Stanzilla:D
18:16.00StanzillaI know a certain someone that is using svn2git all the time because git is too hard
18:16.06TorhalSome people also write AddOns with unnecessary self-written libs because "I want Lua to work like Language X."
18:16.12nevcairieli also really hate people that work from different locations and then produce merges against themself
18:16.17nevcairiellearn to rebase, fool
18:16.42FiskerI agree with nevcairiel
18:17.01nevcairielTL;DR, some people should stick to svn =p
18:17.08Torhalrebases Fisker with the 2008 branch.
18:22.38FiskerMy tiredness
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18:36.26znfwrites LibLordTorhal
18:37.29FiskerHaha
18:37.30FiskerAlmost Android Pay time in the UK
18:37.30FiskerBut they have licence agreements for Apple Pay
18:37.30FiskerBanks are the worst
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18:52.46Gnarfozhttp://thedigitalbits.com/item/martian-the-uhd what a waste
18:53.08GnarfozI wonder how long until non-upscale UHD content will be available
19:03.02Gnarfoznevcairiel: you're not much into phone customization, are you?
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19:24.11nevcairielGnarfoz: not much, why
19:25.19Gnarfoztrying to figure out if I can live with Touchwiz for 2 years
19:25.20Gnarfoz:D
19:25.29Gnarfozit's better now, isn't it?
19:26.10GnarfozI guess I could just run 5.1 on my s4 for a bit
19:26.34Gnarfoz(or is it 5.0? I don't recall ¯\_(ツ)_/¯)
19:27.06nevcairielits pretty lightweight now, so not as intrusive as it used to be
19:28.32Gnarfozmmhmhm.
19:29.13Gnarfozstaying on Touchwiz would probably mean Samsung Pay would work
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19:32.46Gnarfoznevcairiel: oh, also, I recall you recently said something about ipv6 + phone again, was that before or after you got the s6?
19:32.53Gnarfoz(and what was it? it works?)
19:33.20nevcairielit worked for a couple days then the old problem came back
19:33.22nevcairieldont ask me why
19:35.01Gnarfoz:(
19:40.36Gnarfozstrong case of talking to himself http://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s6/554202-ipv6-address-assignment-uses-slaac-not-dhcpv6-over-wifi.html
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19:48.23Gnarfoz"Transfer Speed" http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00V62XBQQ/?tag=androidcentralb-20&m1k=d_ac
19:48.40Gnarfozof course, you wouldn't admit that filling up those 200 GB is going to take ages.
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20:02.19znfwhat could possibly cause a switch/router to not reply to arp requests from a specific host/mac?
20:02.46znfI had to add static entries for a server to be able to ping the main gateway :-/
20:15.42quiescensstop breaking everything ):
20:17.58GnarfozI have two machines that have static arp entries on them for a similar reason
20:18.06Gnarfozold as crap suse boxes ^^
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20:23.50Gnarfozhttp://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00RVNFYCS vs http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B0111EITOM hmm
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21:02.01znfI don't really get it
21:02.12znfnobody messed with that router
21:02.26Megalonit just hates you
21:02.29znfWhy would it randomly start ignoring that specic host?
21:02.42znfin a multiflex that has 5 more blades, and they all work just fine
21:02.50znfexcept that one son of a bitch
21:02.53znffuck it
21:02.54znfit's 11pm
21:02.58znfbeen here for 10 hours
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22:23.25StanzillaGnarfoz: ow patch btw
22:25.54Gnarfozye, I've been notified
22:25.58Gnarfozty
22:26.22Gnarfozcurrently playing armchair psychiatrist, tho
22:31.08Megalonso how is znf coming along?
22:33.37Gnarfozznf seem easy in comparison
22:33.52Stanzillablast from the past https://youtu.be/0_5nswD_apw
22:34.22znf?
22:36.53GnarfozStanzilla: utter potato quality ;(
22:37.23Semlarthey didn't have as many pixels back then
22:38.23Stanzillayeah sorry that was 2007?
22:43.59nevcairielbtw Stanzilla https://forum.redfox.bz/threads/anydvd-hd-7-6-9-1-released.68381/
22:44.46Stanzillahah
22:44.47Gnarfozpixels were scarce back in the day
22:45.39GnarfozI would have found it more impressive if the had stayed underground only to resurface with "anydvd ultrahd"
23:01.56nevcairielGnarfoz: well that could take a long time, and this way it at least keeps working :)
23:02.21Gnarfozdid the most recent version before that stop working?
23:03.12Gnarfoz(also holy crap how bad is the s7 video stabilization? it's literally nonexistent. how do they have OIS on it but don't use it on video oO? same on the s6, supposedly?)
23:08.36nevcairielit didnt stop entirely, but it lost access to the online database for more  complicated discs
23:08.48nevcairieland without updates, it would likely fail on some new discs
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