IRC log for #wowace on 20160211

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00:36.30Stanzillahttps://www.thebuddyforum.com/demonbuddy-forum/239454-official-tripwire-event-9-feb-2016-21-52-utc.html
00:36.36Stanzillamaybe they finally ban d3 botters
00:41.17Semlarthat doesn't sound like blizzard
00:41.38Ressyshould do it the day before the season ends.
00:41.41Ressysnickers
00:43.04Stanzillawell the d3 community has been pretty vocal about the issue lately
00:43.20Stanzillaa few big streamers quit because of it
00:43.26Stanzillaand blizzard hates bad pr :D
00:43.28Semlaryou should see how vocal the warcraft community is about bots
00:43.52Stanzillathat's different, nobody quits WoW because of bots
00:44.00Semlarif the forums are anything to go by 99% of high level arena players are robots
00:44.05nebulaquite over the prevalance of bots?
00:44.05Stanzillawell maybe kick bots in PvP, dunno
00:44.15nebulaquit*
00:44.53Semlaryeah but why would blizzard care if anyone quit playing diablo, nobody's paying a monthly fee
00:45.43Semlarbots arguably have far less of an impact on anything in diablo than they do in wow
00:45.57nebulapeople are pretty srs over leaderboards
00:51.19Stanzillayup
00:51.43Stanzillaand if all the top streamers cant compete because the top 100 is all botters, they just quit
00:51.48Stanzillaor play hardcore like they do now
00:53.19Semlari'm sure all of the "top streamers" are also botters and just hiding it
00:53.20znfholy fuck https://medium.com/figma-design/introducing-vector-networks-3b877d2b864f#.2pmwpv9e8
00:53.21znf:o
00:53.27Stanzillanot all but some
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00:56.24RessyHaving problems with Robbers Cairenn? They've been causing problems province wide for several ISPs, and their own customers lately.. :\
00:57.44Cairennnaw, there was a net split earlier
00:57.47Ressyahh
01:14.01Gnarfozwho's robbing who?
01:14.02Gnarfoz:D
01:14.11TorhalI'm sure all the "Semlar AddOn Authors" are stoners and just not releasing shit.
01:14.16Torhal>.>
01:14.29Semlar._.
01:15.18Stanzilla<.<.
01:15.52Semlarreleases torhal back into the wild
01:15.54TorhalGet high. Concoct some insane fucking shit that actually works. Make it work MOAR betterar. Munchies kick in. Eat thrice your body weight. Pass out. Wake up. Think "This is some cool shit. Releasing it will take some effort, though. Maybe later."
01:16.15Semlargo back to watching netflix
01:16.21TorhalThat's my hypothesis on the inner workings of Semlar.
01:16.30TorhalShit, man. I knew I was forgetting something.
01:16.38Semlarare you working on your thesis
01:16.58TorhalNaw, that was some Divine Insight or some shit.
01:17.24TrelaWhat cool shit is Semlar making now?
01:17.33nebulaTorhal: you forgot the "breaks something, stop developing shit and investigates what happened, forgetting about the original goal"
01:18.03Semlar>_>
01:18.37TorhalThis is why it's a hypothesis, nebula. Requires further investigation, and first-person insights such as yours.
01:19.42TorhalTo remain completely objective, of course, I have to completely disregard my massive rewrite of the list handling/rendering for Ackis Recipe List back in June, which I put on what I thought was a brief pause.
01:19.53Ressy...
01:19.56Ressyget to work
01:20.07Semlarno, don't
01:20.21TorhalI looked at that code two days ago and my first thought was "I have no fucking clue what is supposed to be in these completely empty placeholder methods."
01:20.29Ressylol
01:21.04TorhalNow, if I'd only paused for the two days I'd initially (I assume) intended, that shit would have been gravy.
01:21.58TorhalEight months later, I realize I haven't done a damn thing worth while for my WoW AddOns since that day.
01:22.28TorhalI've lost several hundred dollars a month in Reward Points revenue...
01:22.36Ressymmhmm
01:22.55TorhalAlmost Zero Fucks Given (TM).
01:23.02Ressylol
01:23.07TorhalExcept for, you know, the lack of income.
01:23.28TorhalI'm the sole earner in a three-person, eighteen-cat-and-a-goddamn-dog household.
01:23.29Ressythats why i pushed my update so far
01:23.29TorhalShit hurts.
01:23.49Stanzillaone question
01:23.54Stanzillawhy still all the cats
01:23.55Ressyme, sick 6 yr old, and a damn cat
01:24.03nebulabecause he's fucking insane, that's why
01:24.08Ressyyup
01:24.15TorhalStanzilla: I started out with a male cat.
01:24.30TorhalI told my son he could get a kitten.
01:24.38Ressylol
01:24.48TorhalHe ended up picking a two-year-old sterilized female.
01:24.49StanzillaI mean I get it, I love my cat over almost everything and would never give him away even though I have cat allergies but 18..I probably could not even remember all the names..
01:25.06Gnarfoz"Cat 1" ... "Cat 18"
01:25.07Gnarfoz:D
01:25.07TorhalSo we were at two cats.
01:25.19Gnarfozor "Cat 0" -> "Cat 17"
01:25.24StanzillaI know how it happened, I had biology in school!
01:25.31StanzillaI just dont know why you havent given some away
01:25.39XuerianI gave up on names a while ago.  "You, dog." *Points*
01:25.46GnarfozStanzilla: but they maybe didn't!
01:25.46Gnarfoz:D
01:25.51Gnarfozevolution > education ;)
01:25.57TorhalEight months later, I pull into my driveway after work. I see this absolutely -skeletal- cat running in front of my car across the driveway.
01:26.33Ressyyour own fault
01:26.35TorhalI crouch down and call to her. She actually comes running over to me, and I pick her up without issue.
01:26.42Ressyawww
01:26.45TorhalI mean SKELETAL.
01:27.13TorhalI bring her into the house, pour food into a bowl. She eats the whole thing in two minutes.
01:27.25TorhalMy GF refills the bowl.
01:27.33TorhalShe eats the whole thing in two minutes.
01:27.59TorhalI pick her up and put her on the little pillow that's on my desk that was for the male cat.
01:28.17TorhalAbout six hours later, my GF says "Uh, look at her nipples."
01:28.20TorhalShe has kittens.
01:28.40TorhalI decide to walk around outside to look for them, because they obviously weren't far away.
01:29.00TorhalThree steps out the door, I recall hearing "mice" in my garage the previous week.
01:29.09TorhalFour goddamn kittens in a cardboard box.
01:29.18TorhalInstantly went from two to seven.
01:29.55TorhalCouldn't give them away.
01:30.23TorhalI tried.
01:30.37TorhalActually had Trela over to the house to pick two.
01:30.42Stanzillaeven though they are all grown up now?
01:31.03TorhalTrela ended up waffling on it, and we became attached to them because they develop personalities.
01:31.38TrelaI am bad at pets.
01:31.50TrelaI rely on work to feed me.  How do you think a cat would fair here?
01:32.05TorhalMeanwhile, we had misinformation that told us that spaying a female wasn't feasible while feeding kittens and we had no clue that our male would hit the hell out of that shit immediately.
01:32.22TorhalThree months later, four more kittens.
01:32.37Semlarwhat about neutering the other cat
01:32.47TorhalThen there were the Money Troubles (I did mention that I'm the sole income earner, right?)
01:32.58TorhalNeutering is $200 per.
01:33.13Semlaryeah but how much does it cost to take care of 18 cats
01:33.17TorhalSo four months after the second litter, there was a third litter.
01:33.25TorhalThis time, it was 6 cats.
01:33.43TorhalThree days later, I took the sole female from the first litter to the vet due to bleeding.
01:34.27TorhalShe was pregnant and having difficulties, so they performed a cesarean.
01:35.13TorhalSHE had four kittens, weeks underdeveloped. One died immediately. We brought three home. One died within 12 hours, a second the next day.
01:35.28TorhalLast one survived, and I named her Teensy.
01:36.11TorhalSo I took our original male in to have him neutered, along with one of the males from the first litter. $400.
01:36.25TorhalThen the other two males from the first litter.
01:36.59TorhalThe vet finally told us about a spay/neuter clinic in Tennessee that charged $25 per male and $35 per female.
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01:37.20nebulayea, that's the low income prices here
01:37.21TorhalShe said due to our circumstances, she felt she had to do so. Normally she wouldn't, because "you get what you pay for"
01:37.57Xuerian"Well, lady, I'm also getting what I'm not paying for right now"
01:38.04TorhalAnywho... they're all done now, except for the three females from the third litter and the survivor from the three-day-later litter.
01:38.10TorhalXuerian: Hah
01:38.28TorhalI'd planned to have them ALL done by now, but more money issues.
01:38.39TorhalI was rear-ended on the way home from Ohio.
01:39.04TorhalInsurance is a scam, so I had to slap down $2.5k I didn't actually have on a down-payment for another car.
01:39.45nebulayou were rear ended, how was it your fault
01:39.53TorhalSo that, Stanzilla, is my almost-Amarande-style monologue (except for the part where it was asked for) about why I have 18 cats.
01:40.13Stanzillastill a better love story than twilight
01:40.15Ressylol
01:40.24Torhalnebula: Insurance is a scam. They only pay the market value for the vehicle with 100 miles of where I live. NOT what I owe.
01:40.49TorhalSo I still owed $6k, but I had gap insurance.
01:41.08TorhalSo that's covered. What isn't covered is the down-payment on the replacement vehicle.
01:41.26nebulashitty
01:41.33Torhals/with 100/within 100/
01:41.35TorhalYep.
01:41.40Stanzillaevery time something with any kind of insurance in the US comes up I'm so happy to be in Germany, all your stuff seems super shitty
01:41.48quiescenso.o
01:41.56TorhalI had the car for less than a year, and its market value was $6k less than what my loan was for.
01:42.02Ressyuhhh
01:42.16nebulai mean, you lose 20% of the valuation the moment you drive away
01:42.22TorhalSo this time? I fucking leased.
01:42.31Stanzillawas about to say that
01:42.35Stanzillaleasing sounds like the better option
01:42.41TorhalStill had to put down $2.5k, but the monthly payments are 50%
01:43.11TorhalThat was clever, by the way, Stanzilla.
01:43.11Ressywork on arl.. more cash comes in for us both. ;)
01:43.23TorhalYou managed to get me to speak in an Amarande-like fashion.
01:43.29Ressylol
01:43.37nebulanote to self, never ask Torhal about his cats
01:43.38Ressyaka rant?
01:43.42TorhalNowai, Ressy. Boozamahol is now involved.
01:43.59Stanzillanot intentionally
01:44.11Stanzillaand I actually enjoy listening to stories when it's not Amarande telling them
01:44.12Ressyoh no
01:44.32TorhalNo, Ressy. What I just did was an actual story/explanation. It was prompted. It was in no way a tinfoil-hat or I'll-show-you-everything-useless-I-know monologue that nobody asked for.
01:45.27TrelaSo what car did you get this time, Torhal?
01:46.24TorhalTrela: 2016 Chevrolet Cruze Limited.
01:46.59TrelaAh, a Daewoo.  :D
01:47.55TrelaHuh... Actually the 2016 might not be a Daewoo.
01:49.34Stanzillahttp://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/401493-2-10-alpha-build-design-notes/
01:49.34TrelaThe 2016 is based from Opel's engineering in Germany.
01:52.04TorhalTrela: The 2016 is fucking NICE.
01:52.22TorhalI thought my 2015 Sentra was nice. This trounces it with ease.
01:52.36TrelaI would hope so being based on the German Opel instead of the Daewoo.
01:53.29TorhalSee, this is the thing: I'm not a car guy. It gets me places? Good. It isn't a piece of fucking shit? Better. It has modern amenities? Oh, ok.
01:54.10quiescensi like it to drive well but don't much care how good it looks
01:54.12quiescenso.o
01:54.52Torhalstarts a Kickstarter for "Quiescens in a Hearse"
01:55.01TrelaGM's Daewoo platforms brought us the Aveo.  D:
01:55.14TorhalTrela: I have no idea what either of those things are.
01:55.22quiescens):
01:55.54TorhalHey, quiescens, I hear Hearses are NICE vehicles. Why the upside-down smile?
01:56.34TrelaAveo: Timing belts break 20,000 miles early.  Parts just... fall off.  Warped from the factory brake rotors.  On and on with issues.
01:57.21TorhalOh.
02:00.49Torhal[19:32:37]  <Semlar>what about neutering the other cat <-- I was completely against that shit, having only ever had one other (male) cat. Hormones ultimately shape who we are and how we think, even when they're no longer produced.
02:01.28TorhalI wasn't aware that "fucking like rabbits" wasn't constrained to ACTUAL GODDAMN RABBITS.
02:01.58Xuerian... Yeaaah
02:02.08XuerianLife is pretty vigorous about finding a way
02:02.51TorhalPlus, since this whole thing, I've learned that my original male cat, whom I still grieve for to this day, died just around the time he statistically should have due to the fact that he wasn't neutered.
02:04.25TorhalTurns out, after a certain age, it's perfectly fine for them to have this done. My current, "poppa", male is almost entirely as he was before except for gaining kitten-like playfulness and wanting to love you so hard he almost breaks bones.
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02:10.26Stanzillamine developed a new habit of stroking my cheek when I sleep until I let him under the sheets
02:10.44Stanzillaor blanket or whatever that is called
02:10.57XuerianComforter?
02:11.15Stanzillathe fucking piece of cloth you cover yourself with
02:11.20Stanzillamy english is lacking today
02:11.24XuerianUnder your loincloth, alright
02:11.39XuerianI mean, it's up to a man what he does with his own cats on his own land
02:11.42Stanzillaguess blanket was right
02:11.44Xuerianin most states
02:11.45Stanzillastop trolling me : (
02:12.00Xuerian:3
02:13.19Semlarloincloth checks out
02:17.53Stanzillaanyway, since he cant meow anymore atm, he just keeps on tapping on my face until I do what he wants
02:18.44XuerianHey, if he only taps, you're lucky
02:19.09MegalonStanzilla getting pussy every night
02:19.38Stanzillahe starts using one claw when I dont react after a while
02:21.00TorhalStanzilla: Third litter. One of the three males decided, when he was a month old, that he loved licking a person's lips. The next month, it had to be teeth. He's now nine-months-old and will grab your cheek, with claws, and pull your mouth to his.
02:21.27Megaloni knew a girl like that
02:21.36TorhalI wake up every day to him grabbing my face and french-kissing me.
02:21.52Stanzilla4hahaha
02:22.05TorhalIt gets better, Stanzilla.
02:22.31TorhalTwo months ago,one of his brothers decided that he, too, was a tooth-licker.
02:23.01TorhalApparently he saw it enough times that he thought "You know, I think there might just be something legitimate here."
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02:25.53Stanzillathe pleasure of lickign tooth
02:25.56Stanzillawhat a weirdo :D
02:26.17Stanzilla*teeth, whatever
02:26.33Megalonperhaps Torhal only has one
02:30.30TorhalStanzilla: Definitely weird cats.
02:31.00TorhalI mean, I kinda understand the first one - I was kissing every one of that litter on the mouth since they were born.
02:31.19TorhalHe just decided "MUST SPELUNK IN THAT!"
02:31.58TorhalThe fact that his brother decided to do the same a couple of months ago, though, is "Is he Weird, or Cat Einstein?"
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02:50.10Semlari just spent like 10 minutes trying to figure out why my animation was lagging behind where it should have been, but only when i tab out of the game
02:50.38Semlarit turns out it only does it when my texture is parented to UIParent, it doesn't happen when i create a frame for it
02:52.47Semlarit almost certainly has something to do with the frame rate dropping, but i don't know why changing the parent makes any difference
02:56.52Semlarwell, i'm sure that'll never happen again
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03:17.46TorhalSemlar: Dude. That's an actual setting.
03:17.56Semlarit doesn't work
03:18.04TorhalSomething like background framerate.
03:18.17nebulapoint was parent changed behavior
03:18.21Semlari tried SetIgnoreFramerateThrottle(true) and it didn't make a difference
03:18.46Semlarso i don't know if it's the framerate throttle and it's just ignoring the setting or what
03:19.17Stanzillahttp://www.wowhead.com/news=251264/legion-alpha-build-20163-spell-changes-and-more
03:21.17Semlarplus, you'd think the framerate throttle would actually make more of a difference while the game has focus and a higher framerate
03:21.53Semlarbut it's breaking when the fps gets capped at 30 and displays correctly at 100 fps
03:24.33Semlari'm not really using animations in a way they were designed to be used though so i'm not all that surprised it's a little buggy
03:25.36Semlari start the animation, pause it and then just leave it paused forever while i set the degrees it should be rotated to later
03:31.32Semlarhttp://i.imgur.com/yHJ3WrK.jpg this is what it looked like instead of lining up with the icon
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05:08.05Fisker-What's new about that incognito theme Stanzilla ?
05:08.16Stanzillablack theme
05:09.01Fisker-I've had that for a billion years Stanzilla
05:09.09Stanzillanope
05:09.12Fisker-y
05:09.14Stanzillaonly the background was black
05:09.17Stanzillanot the tabs and buttons
05:09.39Fisker-mine hasn't updated yet and I have it
05:11.06Stanzillahttps://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+log/50.0.2638.0..50.0.2645.4?pretty=fuller&n=10000
05:11.13Stanzilla"Update incognito frame colors"
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05:22.51Fisker-k but I still had it in 2633
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07:26.36Phixionmorning
07:27.02Fiskerhey Phixion
07:27.35Phixionhey Fisker
07:27.36Phixione
07:27.36Phixiony
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09:15.52Phixionhey Megalon
09:46.15Megalonhey Phixion
09:46.22Phixionhey
09:46.31Phixionwhats up
09:49.30Megalonnot much
09:50.37Phixion:(
09:50.43Phixionmy team called in sick
09:52.22nevcairielthe entire team?
09:53.41Phixionthe locals
09:53.43Phixionin munich
09:54.04Phixionyep
09:54.08Phixionentire team
09:56.22Megalonmy team just accomplished a mission
09:56.36Phixiongood
09:56.47Megaloni executed a gatekeeper Phase
09:56.49MegalonPhixion :<
09:56.59Phixion:(
10:00.41Megalonwtf do i have to do to get avatar autopsy :|
10:01.40Megalonoh lol i have to upgrade the shadow chamber :C
10:05.34GnarfozStanzilla: why the hell would this be a skin for the HOLY paladin artifact?! http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/499999-artifactsilverhand-06.jpg >_>
10:05.58nevcairielwhy wouldnt it be
10:06.00Gnarfoz(yeah, because prot is a shield... fuck that)
10:06.13Gnarfozbecause it's Reinhardt's hammer, who is clearly a tank ^^
10:06.40nevcairieland holy wears a hammer, let them have an iconic weapon why dont you
10:07.05Megalon*foz wants all the artifacts for himself
10:07.18Gnarfozsure, but why a tank weapon for holy T__T
10:07.32nevcairieli find it interesting that they are adding a new variant for all artifacts though, so now its 6 instead of 5
10:07.45Gnarfozwell, was almost certain that prot would get a shield, considering how many artifacts they have to invent and how few classes wear shields
10:08.14nevcairielits a combination out of sword and shield, anyway
10:10.25nevcairielalthough the appearance tab in wowheads artifact calculator doesnt have the 6th variant yet
10:23.13Gnarfozhttp://legion.wowhead.com/item=137065/gaze-of-justice dat burst
10:23.48Gnarfozhttp://legion.wowhead.com/item=137070/ph-avengers-shield-additional-bounces-and-damage-with-each-bounce haha, I've been wishing for something like this for years ^^
10:24.09Gnarfoz(frisbee is already #1 damage spell for prot paladin at the moment)
10:25.08nevcairielt18 set makes frisbee super fun too
10:25.13nevcairielso many procs
10:25.42nevcairielthese legendaries will definitely be ... interesting
10:26.00Gnarfozyeah, that was always a bit crazy when we did a Mythic dungeon in between CMs recently, and suddenly set bonus is active
10:26.01nevcairielbalanced between set bonus and limited slots to wear them
10:30.46Megaloni just read that as limited sluts to wear them
10:33.23nevcairieland the one thing that definitely doesnt look interesting in the next xpac, as with any previous xpac, is alchemy .. i should just get rid of it =p
10:38.34nevcairielbut hey at least cauldrons!
11:08.48Fiskernice
11:08.51Fiskerscience today
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11:52.35Gnarfozfor science?
12:14.19GnarfozBlizzard wants to make sure I'm invited http://i.imgur.com/LJKiCim.png
12:15.06nevcairielforward me one
12:16.58Gnarfozthere you go
12:17.18nevcairielgreat :P
12:17.21GnarfozStanzilla: a good reason not to use YT gaming https://i.imgur.com/olZaSJg.png
12:18.15Phixiona good reason not to use copyrighted music?
12:18.43nevcairiellike the GEMA cares
12:18.56nevcairielthey fine freelance musicians for offering their own music
12:18.59Kalrotha german using youtube with sound in video? not bloody likely!
12:19.13KalrothGEMA will block anything with more than 5 decibel
12:22.48GnarfozPhixion: a good reason to disable the enabled-by-default VoD thing
12:23.25Phixionmines better
12:23.35Gnarfozwhich is what that video must be (because I didn't upload any recordings, but that was definitely the music that was running while I was messing with YT streaming last night)
12:23.37Megalongnarfos playing overwatch while raubmordkopiering music
12:23.41MegalonTO THE GULAR, *FOZ!!!
12:23.47Phixionnods
12:23.48Gnarfozsuch typing, wow
12:23.48Megalons/GULAR/GULAG/
12:24.03Gnarfozhome streaming kills music, Megalon
12:31.14Kalrothradio has been doing it for decades and now computers are doing it too
12:32.09Gnarfozin Germany, computers are considered radios
12:32.40Gnarfoz(well, they were, until they replaced the "do you have a TV/radio? ok, pay up" system with "everyone pays")
12:38.44znfWhatever happened to that HoTS map with the golems
12:38.47znfand killing zombies?
12:38.55znfI haven't seen it at all lately
12:39.13nevcairielthe grave golem?
12:39.21znfyeah
12:39.45nevcairieldunno, did they disable haunted mines?
12:39.48nevcairieli always like that one
12:40.24nevcairielseems like its disabled for a rework
12:47.59Gnarfoznice, I kind of forgot twice already to book my train ticket for next week
12:48.26nevcairieldo it now!
12:48.28Gnarfozfinally got around to it today, only to see that there's some special offer starting today
12:48.31nevcairielalso, where are you going?
12:48.37Gnarfozso it was even cheaper than it would have been last week
12:48.46GnarfozHannover/parents again, mom's birthday next Sunday
12:48.51nevcairielah
12:49.16Gnarfozevents are spread around the year well enough for me to go there pretty much every 2 months
12:49.31nevcairielhehe
12:49.41nevcairielnot as much for me
12:49.45Gnarfozparticularly since my niece joined the birthday crowd and is well-situated in the previous "early summer" gap (June)
12:50.07nevcairieltwo birthdays in dec+jan, and two in jun+jul, thats it
12:50.17Gnarfoznow the biggest gap is between easter/easter holidays (LAN party) and her birthday in June, I think
12:50.36Gnarfozdepending on when easter is, that can be a couple of months or a couple of weeks ^^
12:50.58Gnarfozit's really early this year
12:51.31nevcairielits not like i live far away from my parents, still dont go there often =p
12:55.53Gnarfozmust be nice ._.
12:56.19nevcairieli probably should though
12:56.23nevcairielwell, easter is soon
12:57.07nevcairieli stayed with my parents for like 3 months in 2014 when my foot was broke, that was enough for a while =p
13:01.10Gnarfozhehe
13:01.20Fiskerhey nevcairiel
13:01.28Gnarfozit's certainly more tolerable this way, a couple of times a year
13:01.29Gnarfozvs all the time
13:02.03Gnarfoz28,50€ vs. 168,50€ (regular price w/ BahnCard25)  is quite a steal
13:02.12nevcairielthats a nice offer indeed
13:02.14nevcairielhey Fisker
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14:08.00GnarfozStanzilla: http://www.overpwn.com/news/129-player-leveling-xp-data-player-icons-cross-server
14:09.04nevcairielwhen i read overpwn.com, i think of a hacking website
14:16.15FiskerThe cross server shit is stupid
14:16.53Gnarfozexactly, people have only been asking for global play in Blizzard games for the last 12 years, why start now?
14:17.16FiskerIt's not global play
14:17.30Gnarfozwhat other point would there be to doing that
14:17.35Gnarfozit's just worded dumbly
14:17.38FiskerIt's basically like "We still don't want to to do it, let's do a super stupid workaround to make people somewhat content with it"
14:17.46nevcairielthey probably still have quite distinct systems and simply "merging" them would be complicated
14:17.58FiskerWell they're not getting less complicated nevcairiel
14:18.01Gnarfozwhat other way to "see" my unlocks would there be than when I play in a different region?
14:18.05nevcairielat least you can switch now without downsides
14:18.18Gnarfozoh god I really had to little sleep, that sentence was a trainwreck
14:18.18nevcairielGnarfoz: just get rid of regions and let everyone play with everyone
14:18.25Fisker^^
14:18.26Gnarfoznevcairiel: right, that'd be better, of course
14:18.36nevcairielexcept there would still be regions for latency reasons
14:18.36FiskerLet matchmaking decide shit
14:18.39Fisker^^
14:18.41nevcairielits a FPS, i dont want to play with USians
14:18.42Gnarfozbut... not really feasible for latency-sensitive games
14:18.48Gnarfozyeah
14:18.58GnarfozI'm also slow. I should just stop IRC for today :P
14:19.02nevcairielhaha
14:19.07Phixion:-(
14:19.08FiskerThey could just say that US = Global
14:19.14Fiskerand destroy all the other regions
14:19.18Fiskerbut keep regional servers
14:19.33Megalonor they could do what they always do in their games
14:19.33FiskerThough there was the argument beforehand that stupid oracle licenses might also be an issue
14:19.37Megaloncare about US region
14:19.43Megalonand not give a shit about the others
14:19.44Megalon8)
14:20.06Phixion8-)
14:20.06FiskerThey already do
14:20.10Fisker( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
14:20.20GnarfozOracle licences are always an issue
14:20.24Fisker^^
14:20.28GnarfozI doubt Overwatch uses them, though
14:20.39GnarfozI doubt anything beyond WoW does, or I question Blizzard's sanity
14:20.54Gnarfoz(or their financial ideals)
14:20.57Gnarfoz*ideas
14:21.00nevcairieldunno, saving the progess and shit could be in there
14:21.00FiskerI could imagine there might be some b.net stuff that does
14:21.09Fiskerbut otherwise probably true
14:21.20Gnarfozthey're easily big enough to have a ULA going on
14:21.39FiskerTrue
14:21.41Gnarfozwhich could include random clauses to limit stuff... but
14:21.58Gnarfozregular Oracle licences don't seem to be limiting in that way (the only limit is your bank balance)
14:22.06Gnarfozwtb food
14:22.23FiskerIt's like that with all licenses Gnarfoz
14:22.39Gnarfozwell, but to varying extents
14:22.39FiskerIt was funny we got an email from the company of a product we use
14:22.56Fisker(We use it in VM's a lot so a lot of duplicate licenses used)
14:23.07FiskerAnd they were like "WARNING YOUR LICENSE MIGHT BE IN DANGER"
14:23.17GnarfozWEEE-OOOO WEEE-OOO ALERT ALERT
14:23.18FiskerWhen all it was saying was really "Hey, any chance we can get some more money from you guys?"
14:23.35Gnarfoz50% of your bank balance might buy you 500 licences of X, but it will only buy you 5 licences for Oracle
14:23.36Gnarfoz:D
14:23.37FiskerAnd we reminded them of their own license terms etc.
14:24.03Fiskerand they replied back "Sorry, false alarm, we were just checking if your procedures for managing licenses was ok"
14:24.05FiskerI lol'd
14:24.12Fiskerthe false alarm one sold it
14:24.22Gnarfozgood save :D
14:24.32Gnarfozsadly, Oracle updates their licence terms again and again to stay up to date with current shit, so they can keep on milking to the max
14:24.39FiskerYeah
14:24.48Gnarfoz(didn't MS also recently change something about that? someone did)
14:24.49FiskerIt's creepy
14:25.04Gnarfozmight have been another company
14:25.13FiskerMicrosoft definitely went full oracle on their MSSQL license not that long ago
14:25.30FiskerBut I don't know the specifics
14:25.41Fiskertime to go home though
14:26.13Fiskerhttps://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/458cqz/changing_time_date_settings_to_jan_1_1970_will/ though
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14:34.02Phixionhey Fisker
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15:13.10GnarfozStanzilla: while we're on the topic of 90's nostalgia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUl6YVYex58
15:14.55GnarfozFisker: fucking great, lol
15:15.07Gnarfozprobably division by zero somewhere
15:17.23quiescensmoo
15:26.12nevcairielGnarfoz: AVM already has fritzboxes for supervectoring and G.fast ... so hardware for  something rolling out in 10 years? =p
15:30.57nevcairielI wish they would finally get done with this vectoring debate and get that on at least
15:35.16GnarfozI thought they were done for now?
15:35.33Gnarfozalso, which ones are you thinking of?
15:36.23nevcairielDid they finally come to some conclusion that will allow me to get vectoring? =p
15:36.36nevcairielie. close to a HVT
15:38.10nevcairielwell we'll see if something happens this year
15:40.52nevcairiela bunch of areas around HH already got vdsl100, but lets see when it actually moves into the city areas
15:43.54GnarfozI thought they had reached a compromise of some sort
15:44.46nevcairielother providers can apparently just decide to entirely take over delivery in some area they are interested in
15:44.56nevcairielie. buy the shit from the telekom
15:45.45nevcairielinterestingly if some do that they get forced to offer delivery within a year, while the telekom itself has no such obligations
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16:41.38Gnarfozyeah, it's a real compromise, in the sense that nobody is happy with it :D
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17:03.45Fiskerhey Ressy
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17:20.53Ressyhi
17:22.04Fisker:O
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19:21.18nevcairielhm evga build a GTX980Ti with an internal HDMI port and a floppy-sized front panel appliance to route the HDMI port to for VR headsets .. its not a bad idea I have to admit
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21:16.24StanzillaGnarfoz: cross server unlocks is fucking great
21:24.06pompy1?
21:31.47Fiskerhey Stanzilla
21:31.50Fiskerit's fucking crap
21:57.59GnarfozDöner is serious business in Berlin http://www.sueddeutsche.de/panorama/berlin-mann-will-sich-nicht-von-doener-trennen-polizei-traegt-ihn-aus-bus-1.2858969 :D
21:59.13nevcairielgotta stay strong
21:59.23nevcairielcant give up that döner
22:02.49GnarfozDöner macht schöner
22:02.57GnarfozStanzilla: that late night wrecked me good
22:05.24Stanzillanot going to tell you how long I slept
22:06.54Gnarfoz:D
22:07.17GnarfozI took a nap from when I came home to about 22:30 ^^
22:07.29Gnarfozto get rid of the sick headache :D
22:13.21nevcairielpsh one night barely any sleep and you guys act like you died
22:14.09StanzillaI dont, I just can sleep long :D
22:14.13Stanzilla*can just
22:16.37Stanzillaoverwatch patch inc
22:18.19Gnarfoz?
22:23.11Gnarfozhttp://hothardware.com/news/cern-engineer-leaks-amd-zen-architecture-details-claiming-40-percent-increase-in-ipc-up-to-32-cores
22:29.16Gnarfozquality CPU tech post that mis-explains what SMT is called
22:31.23StanzillaGnarfoz: every region but EU got a patch
22:31.48nevcairielGnarfoz: he fell into the SMP/SMT trap
22:32.15nevcairielZen is also AMDs generation that returns to SMP instead of their half-cores make for higher counts strategy
22:32.21nevcairieland that S is symmetric
22:32.21nevcairiel=p
22:32.31Stanzillaand wow_beta soon too
22:32.39nevcairielwow_beta was last night
22:32.46nevcairieland dungeon race is starting in 30 minutes
22:32.57Stanzillano I think they are preparing a patch for after the event
22:33.00Stanzillato fix the mac issue
22:33.21Stanzillayup, 21071
22:33.41Stanzillahttp://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/401583-mac-clients-not-launching/
22:35.42StanzillaGnarfoz: http://www.overpwn.com/blue-tracker/topic/5778-server-maintenance
22:36.01Stanzilla1.0.2.0.27001 => 1.0.2.0.27074
22:38.15Stanzillanow for EU, wonder why we always get shit last :(
22:38.49Gnarfozmacs? who cares about macs :D
22:39.02Stanzillathere are other crashing issues as well
22:39.07Stanzillamacs are not even startingthough
22:40.42Gnarfozhttp://i.imgur.com/uzI9Jbq.png
22:40.58Stanzillayup
23:09.12nevcairielthat heymdall boss looks fun
23:24.47nevcairielreally looking forward to the time when instances are fun and challenging again =p
23:26.17Gnarfozso... release -> 2 weeks after release :\
23:26.38nevcairielwell new kind of challenge modes will prolong that
23:27.31nevcairieland i dont know what kind of gear they gave those guys in the dungeon race, but it still looks challenging enough
23:29.04Gnarfozhttp://www.ghacks.net/2016/02/11/microsoft-promises-to-implement-full-windows-10-data-tracking-controls/
23:29.16nevcairielbut generally the first month or so is usually the most fun, indeed
23:29.54nevcairielits going to be summer though, so thats unusual
23:30.37nevcairieland EU seems to be winning =p
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23:43.12Stanzillatowellee sabotaged US hard
23:43.26nevcairieltheir downfall came from wiping at fenryr twice
23:43.42nevcairielthey didnt really show that part properly when it happened
23:46.40Gnarfozare they playing some specially tuned version, or what? that instance isn't hard?
23:47.56nevcairielheroic
23:48.02nevcairielno speicla, just heroic
23:49.28nevcairielbosses get an extra ability on heroic, and generally seems to do a bunch of damage
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23:55.58nevcairielthe style of that instance looks nice
23:57.01Stanzillapre recorded shit :/

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