IRC log for #wowace on 20160129

00:02.09nevcairielGnarfoz: new mainboard with killernic built in!"
00:02.57Gnarfozor that, yeah
00:03.14nevcairieli wouldnt touch that
00:03.15nevcairiel:p
00:03.21Gnarfozyeah, no thanks ^^
00:03.27Gnarfozdoes anyone make mainboards with NICs/PHYs that are neither realtek or intel?
00:03.38nevcairielwell, killernic
00:03.41nevcairielbut nothing other than that
00:04.19Gnarfozkillernic is qualcomm, yeah?
00:05.08nevcairielnot that i am aware
00:05.35Megalonhow much fps/$$$ does one get out of a killernic?
00:05.41nevcairiel-1
00:05.56Megalonthat a not a lot of dollars!
00:06.03Megaloner fps
00:06.16Gnarfozuntil you put it into your bank account
00:06.32Megalonor is it that -1 = unlimited stuff again
00:06.37Gnarfoz^
00:06.55Gnarfozor well, no, variable rollover because of signed vs. unsigned, is what I was going for
00:08.06nevcairielto be fair the killernic may actually solve your problem since it apparently doesnt use the MS TCP/IP stack, but handles it in its own tiny OS running on its 400mhz cpu :p
00:08.07Megalonwell even 5 bit is enough
00:08.08Gnarfoznevcairiel: Qualcomm bought Bigfoot Networks, who made Killer NIC
00:08.17Megalonbecause the human eye can't see more than 25fps anyway
00:08.18Gnarfoznah, that's not how they work anymore
00:08.23Gnarfozhttp://techreport.com/review/29144/revisiting-the-killer-nic-eight-years-on
00:08.52Gnarfozseems like it's software-only now
00:10.03nevcairielso even more so pointless
00:10.11nevcairielbuy some weird hardware to get a QoS driver?
00:10.12nevcairiel:D
00:10.28Gnarfozapparently they also don't sell stand-alone anymore
00:11.26nevcairielthe test on that page doesnt make me want one =p
00:11.33StanzillaThe issue with Firebird's Finery 6-piece bonus is currently under investigation. We don't have an ETA for a resolution at this time. However, any fix we may implement would likely result in a reduction in power for the set. For this reason, similar to the situation with Raekor's/Furious Charge, we will not be addressing this issue for the duration of Season 5.
00:11.35Stanzillalol'd
00:12.38Megalonhm
00:15.07nevcairielGnarfoz: out of curiosity i checked what of my system ran line-based interrupts, and apparently its my GPU, SATA, USB3 and onboard audio .. not sure if any of that should be running MSI instead =p
00:17.08Stanzillahow do you even check/change that
00:17.12Gnarfozfor me it was GPU (both video and hdmi audio), onboard audio, intel management engine, PCI IDE controller, USB2 controllers, SMBus
00:17.19GnarfozStanzilla: http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=378044
00:17.48Gnarfoznow it's just SMBus (which seems to be a dummy device) and USB2 controllers
00:18.06Gnarfozbut, as previously said, this is probably not the real issue anyway.
00:18.24nevcairielapparently nvidia drivers dont flag MSI
00:18.33nevcairielnot sure if i should ever worry
00:18.37Gnarfozprobably not
00:18.44Gnarfoznever change a running system
00:18.48GnarfozI know it's hard. :D
00:18.58Gnarfozbut don't fuck with it! :P
00:19.25Gnarfoznvidia drivers also reset back to line-based IRQs when you install then, from what I read
00:19.45znfIRQs are stupid
00:19.53znfwhy do we stil have them in the UEFI era?
00:20.11Gnarfozbecause they're a central element of how modern computers work?
00:20.13nevcairielbecause interrupts are essential to how our systems work
00:20.22Stanzillachrome is so scary
00:20.31znfWhy are they still a "central element"?
00:20.40Stanzilladid you guys ever notice how it adjusts the suggested folder when you bookmark something based on the content of the page?
00:20.42Gnarfozwhy... wouldn't they be?
00:20.46Stanzillalike I wanted to bookmark Gnarfoz's link
00:20.54Stanzillaand it defaulted to my howtos and guides folder
00:20.58GnarfozI don't really use bookmarks much, I couldn't say
00:21.19Stanzillahappens all t he time here
00:21.24znfStanzilla, yeah
00:21.24znfold
00:21.24Gnarfozneat/scary
00:21.45Gnarfozprobably groups by URI?
00:22.02Gnarfozi.e. all guru3d would probably go there, even if it was a porn pic thread in the Off-topic forum
00:22.10nevcairielznf: hardware like your GPU or NIC just needs the CPUs attention immediately sometimes to actually function anywhere close to realtime, so it needs an interrupt to tell the CPU "hey pay attention, i need this noaw!"
00:22.17Stanzillaor when I was reading an article about some software and type github into the url bar, and i have been to that software's github repo it shows it first
00:22.19Stanzillaetc
00:22.33znfnevcairiel, hasn't that been a thing for, like, 40 years?
00:22.39znfWhy don't we have something better by now?
00:22.41nevcairielyour point?
00:22.47Gnarfozinvent something better, then
00:22.50nevcairielthe system works fine
00:23.04znfBIOS worked fine, too!
00:23.09Gnarfozindeed it did
00:23.10znfYet we now have UEFI madness
00:23.18nevcairielits an event based system, nothing wrong with that, devices request high-priority cpu when they need it
00:23.43nevcairieland we have a new way, MSI instead of the old IRQs
00:24.08Gnarfoz"new" compared to "40 years ago"
00:24.10Gnarfoz^^
00:24.37Gnarfozanyway, that basicaly just means they moved it to the memory interface
00:24.39Gnarfoz+l
00:24.50Gnarfozand the interrupting to the OS
00:27.07Gnarfozthe paragraph quoted from "Windows Internals" in that thread gives a short overview
00:27.08nevcairielyeah MSIs work over any existing bus, while old interrupts needed a dedicated line
00:27.28znftl;dr it for my drunken self
00:27.46nevcairielfwiw pci express doesnt have this dedicated line, so on a hardware level its always MSIs, but due to compatibility the PCI Express controller can kind of emulate old IRQs
00:27.48Gnarfozyeah, that's something to slowly read with a fresh coffee in hand
00:27.49Gnarfoz:p
00:28.06znflet's not do that
00:28.16Gnarfozyou can do it tomorrow ;P
00:28.18znfSo, question
00:28.26znfHow the hell does DigitalOcean do SSD VPS?
00:28.29znfI don't get it
00:28.42Gnarfozthey... use SSD storage for your thing?
00:28.47Gnarfozhow's that complicated
00:28.50znfto be able to live-migrate VMs from a host to another, you need to have shared storage, right?
00:29.16znfwouldn't a shared/network storage make ssds kind of moot?
00:29.24znfor am I thinking about this the wrong way?
00:29.35Gnarfozprobably
00:30.00Gnarfoznot sure what you're thinking about ^^
00:30.07znfour VPS service is barely making any money, and we have retarded prices
00:30.15znfand I'm not sure what to do to improve it
00:30.18Gnarfozwhy do you think "shared storage" means "network storage"?
00:30.33nevcairielvmware at least can live migrate to different storage
00:30.41znfand honestly I don't think we can compete with the incredible low prices of DigitalOcean, for example
00:30.59znf(I'm actually still trying to figure out how the fuck they can afford to offer VPS at $5/mo)
00:31.37Gnarfozbecause they already have lots of customers
00:31.49Gnarfozand before they did, they probably didn't make any profits.
00:32.10znfat the moment, I don't even think we're making even on power costs alone
00:33.10nevcairielindeed, the point to run profitable VM hosting is having loads of customers
00:33.35nevcairielonly then you can benefit from scaling everything up
00:35.21EndI didn't know digitalocean had live migration, but the lack of shared disk is a limitation that can be worked around much like the lack of shared memory ;-)
00:35.55znflive-migration is not a client-side feature
00:36.42znfI'm talking from a host point of virew
00:37.57znfie: you want to do some maintenance work on a host, you have to migrate the VMs from a host to another without client downtime
00:38.59Endeven copying memory isn't instant, and I imagine the same basic techniques can be used for disk
00:39.14znfcopying 1-2gb vs. 50gb...
00:39.53nevcairielyou can just snapshot it and copy the bulk, then copy a diff to bring it up to speed when the actual migration happens
00:40.08znfyour stack has to support it, though
00:40.16Endobviously
00:40.23znfand I'm not really well versed in those techs
00:41.02Gnarfozwell, that's one of the central features you get (and want) out of using vSphere, for example
00:41.04znfand I'm all alone in the datacenter
00:41.20znfwell, I don't think we can afford the costs of vCenter though
00:41.33Gnarfozyeah, probably not a wise idea when you're already not making money
00:42.47GnarfozI haven't really kept track of what kvm/qemu and the others can do in those areas
00:43.50znfthe weird part is that people are moving to containers now
00:44.25znfwhich somehow feels like a step back
00:44.27GnarfozI blame that on devops web hipsters, whatever
00:44.29nevcairieli despise container VMs
00:44.35nevcairielI had one once, it was terrible
00:44.50znfthough I can see the advantages
00:45.18Gnarfozit helps in generalising even more of your application stack
00:45.19znfno emulation layer costs
00:45.28Gnarfozthose are miniscule anyway
00:45.39znfyeah, but still
00:45.53Gnarfozgeneralising is necessary if you want to run on arbitrary "cloud" platforms
00:45.54znfanyway, the thing is, we have retarded prices
00:45.56znfand retarded "Features"
00:46.08Stanzillalegion patch
00:46.11znfhttps://cloudini.ro/preturi
00:46.15znfI've no idea wtf is a "compute unit"
00:46.17Gnarfozznf: and retarted customers, then
00:47.00EndI don't know what it means in that context, but I think AWS uses a "compute unit" to describe how powerful a VM is relative to another
00:47.03znf"provisioned IOPS"
00:47.13znfthe thing is, those aren't even present
00:47.24znfI mean, those pretty much don't mean anything
00:47.27znfeven the network is not capped
00:47.31Endsince different VM sizes are on different types of hardware
00:47.40znfwe don't really have that
00:47.45znfit's a clusterfuck
00:47.47Endyeah I don't know then
00:48.03Gnarfozmaybe it's what they want to be when they actually have a relevant number of customers? ^^
00:48.27Gnarfozor... the web hipsters who made the shiny website couldn't imagine a world where such a platform *wouldn't* have these things ;-)
00:49.05znfGnarfoz, well, "they" == me
00:49.10znfand I have close to 0 docs
00:49.19znfheck, I still haven't figured how the fuck do I add a new OS image
00:49.48nevcairielwtf is a luna
00:49.54znfmonth
00:50.45nevcairielare those really euro prices
00:51.16znfyeah...
00:51.18nevcairieli could host 10 VPSes of that quality on my dedicated server and even make money in the process
00:51.51znfalso, whoever designed the system was a weird fuck
00:52.00EndI didn't even look at the actual numbers until
00:52.00znfmixing different CPU types
00:52.04znfAMD, Intel
00:52.07znfdifferent models
00:52.16nevcairielthat makes migration fun
00:52.21Endthat's a super low amount of iops
00:52.29znfyou can imagine that it doesn't really work
00:52.38znfUbuntu and Debian seem to handle it
00:52.47znfCentOS always crashes on live-migrate
00:52.53znfnot sure why, though
00:53.10znfand the memory size..
00:53.15nevcairielznf: your silly page even explains what a compute unit is
00:53.16znfalso, so many fuckin' versions
00:53.19nevcairieldidnt you read it! :D
00:53.27znfnevcairiel, it does, that's no fuckin' explanation
00:53.43nevcairielEach such unit represents the equivalent processing power of a Xeon 2009 CPU, running at 2Ghz
00:53.48nevcairielseems fine to me
00:53.56znfyeah, it doesn't seem to work like that behind the scenes
00:54.03znfalso, vCPUs is not really exact
00:54.20znfactual cores in the VM seem to be consistent with the number of "compute units"
00:54.30znfhonestly, I just feel like scraping the whole system
00:54.34znfand starting over with openstack
00:55.16znfI wouldn't direct my clients to our service, for example
00:55.21znfThe performance is "meh"
00:55.50Gnarfozalways fun to look at http://weathermap.ovh.net/#usa
00:56.17Megalonor arrows and colors
00:56.34znfalso, I need to figure out how the fuck to fix IPv6
00:56.53Gnarfozthat's one thing we don't do at all; we're not an ISP of any kind, tho
00:57.02nevcairielStanzilla: is there an iso of the latest insider build for win10?
00:57.14znfWe're not an ISP, either
00:57.17Stanzillaonly esd
00:57.22znfbut we do have a /48 IPv6 block
00:57.26znfthat we're paying for
00:57.30znfbut it's not routed anywhere
00:57.37nevcairielStanzilla: can i install that in a vm without too much pain? :p
00:58.04Stanzillanevcairiel: yeah can convert that to an iso pretty easily
00:59.33nevcairielfound some pre-converted iso
00:59.35nevcairiellets see
01:00.05znfOH GREAT
01:00.13Stanzillahttp://www.deskmodder.de/blog/2016/01/28/windows-10-build-14251-preview-iso-download-deutsch/
01:00.14znfI was wondering where the fuck is my bic lighter
01:00.24znfand my bottle of vape juice
01:00.28znfthey were in my jeans
01:00.32znf...I just washed those jeans
01:00.43Gnarfozif you're selling servers, you're an ISP of sorts
01:00.48StanzillaI forgot if whether you use german or english Windows
01:00.54Stanzilla-if
01:00.59Gnarfoznot an internet *access* provider, but hosting a server is an internet service, is it not? ^^
01:01.04nevcairieli use english windows
01:01.12Gnarfozenglisch fensterln
01:01.22Stanzillaah well, you found one already anyway
01:01.33Stanzillanot much can go wrong with converting anyway
01:01.33nevcairielsame website, different post
01:01.37Stanzillaok :D
01:01.51StanzillaI'm stuck in a Tomb :(
01:01.56Stanzillano idea on how to solve this riddle
01:02.09Megalondon't go full retard Stanzilla
01:02.13Megalonunless it's the only solution
01:02.19StanzillaI will never go Megalon
01:02.32Stanzillano kommas
01:02.33nevcairieli think i missed something in an earlier place, it said i needed something to blast it open, but i didnt have anything, so i moved on
01:02.35Megalongood for you
01:02.49Stanzillayeah you have to go back later with more tools
01:02.55Stanzillalike in the 2013 tomb raider
01:03.12Stanzillayou cant 100% an area the first time
01:03.33nevcairielspeaking of, anyway want the 2013 tomb raider? got a spare =p
01:03.46Stanzillaoh they really made that giftable? that's nice
01:04.01nevcairielyes
01:04.15Megalon:o
01:04.16nevcairieli also have a hl2 from years ago :D
01:04.24Megalonwho doesn't have hl2 :D
01:04.29nevcairielexactly
01:04.32nevcairielthats why i still have it
01:04.49nevcairielthe gift, that is
01:06.16znfI have HL2
01:06.20znfI bought it in 2004
01:06.24znfnever played it :-|
01:06.35znfwas my first game i ever bought
01:06.51Megalonyou stole everything before, right?
01:07.11znfYup
01:07.13znflike a true pirate
01:07.30nevcairielI wondered if I should try to play it again in VR (through Half-Life 2: Update), wonder how well its integrated
01:15.29nevcairielWell so much to try out once the rift gets here
01:16.12Gnarfozwell, the various offloading options don't do jack, either
01:16.17Gnarfozshame
01:16.22Gnarfoz*ding*
01:26.23nevcairielGnarfoz: so for the Intel NIC the latest info I could find is that apparently 20.4.1 drivers seem to work on Windows 10, if its actually the driver at fault, and while many users report this one to fix it again (which previously only 19.1 did), not for all
01:26.39Gnarfoz20.4.1? hm
01:26.46GnarfozI think I have like, 20.20?
01:26.50Gnarfozerr 20.2, then
01:26.53Gnarfozactually I have no idea
01:26.55nevcairiel20.4.1 is from nov '15
01:27.06Gnarfozthey're all just called PROSetx64.exe ^^
01:27.43Gnarfoz20.4 Oct 1
01:27.54Gnarfozwonder if it's .1
01:28.58nevcairielhttps://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/25016/Network-Adapter-Driver-for-Windows-10 in any case
01:29.20GnarfozChrome download history says that's the one I got
01:29.26Gnarfoz25016
01:31.29Gnarfozprograms & features actually lists it as Intel Network Connections 20.4.207.0
01:31.44Gnarfoz(I didn't install the proset stuff, driver only)
01:32.54Gnarfozthis readme/release notes.txt won't end
01:33.14Gnarfozintel release notes are always quite verbose
01:33.30nevcairielBut not that informative unfortunately
01:33.54Gnarfozyeah, it's mostly long lists of devices and what they can and cannot do, because they just produce so much... stuff
01:34.13Gnarfozintel server bios release notes... urrrgh :D
01:38.07nevcairielndis definitely has a high dpc count for me, but 0.2 max time, so..
01:41.12nevcairielanyhow time to sleep
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03:32.41StanzillaShirik: how can you not have him on ignore by now
03:33.14ShirikI've never seen him before
03:33.23Stanzillawat
03:33.27Stanzillahow is that even possible
03:36.13TorhalStanzilla: ?
03:36.19StanzillaTorhal: amarande
03:36.25Torhal...
03:36.33TorhalShirik needs to lay off the drugs.
03:36.48Shirikoh
03:36.51TorhalAmarande is ignored by roughly half the channel, Shirik.
03:36.52ShirikI thought we were talking about someone else
03:36.55TorhalAh
03:37.10ShirikI don't ignore people. It's far more interesting to watch them
03:37.22Stanzilla"interesting"
03:37.41Shirikkinda like how I don't get drunk because it's far more interesting watching other people get drunk
03:37.47TorhalIt's just annoying to tab over to IRC and see (100) next to the channel name and then when I click it, it's just Amarande talking to himself about the most insane shit.
03:38.21Stanzillahe's also just borderlien retarded
03:38.34TorhalHe needs a tin foil hat.
03:38.41Stanzillahe's also bad at games
03:38.44Stanzillakinda like pompy
03:38.45Stanzillahides
03:38.52TorhalYet he has encyclopedia knowledge of many.
03:39.00Torhalencyclopedic*
03:39.11Stanzillahe thinks he has
03:39.17Stanzillabut it's just 99% bullshit
03:40.04Stanzillalike everytime he "discusses" class changes in WoW
03:40.05Ressyyawns
03:40.05Stanzilla...
03:40.24Stanzillahe's probably never seen a raid from the inside in 5 years
03:41.43Stanzillagoes back to raiding tombs
03:41.50RessyNeed a bot to reply with "Shut up" any time he speaks.
03:42.08StanzillaI want one that smacks him on the back of his head IRL
03:43.54pompyStanzilla: w t f'
03:44.05Stanzillahaha
03:47.48quiescensmoo
03:48.14Stanzillahey quiescens
03:48.32quiescenso/
03:53.10Stanzillaquiescens: how is your season going
03:54.19quiescensslowly
03:54.32Stanzillawhat did you end up playing? wiz0rd?
04:05.17quiescensi made a dh
04:05.26quiescensbecause i never really played one
04:05.28quiescenso.o
04:06.21Repocollectinator: 03resa1983 07master * 6.2.3.1-8-gf78b75e Database/Collections/PetDB.lua: [+1 commit] Fix ticket 202 which was created 3 minutes ago. I rock.
04:10.19Stanzillahey Fisker
04:10.22Stanzillathat is the wrong game
04:10.25Stanzillapls change
04:10.26Fiskern
04:10.28Stanzillaquiescens: liking it?
04:10.31Fiskertomb raider sucks
04:10.36StanzillaFisker: why
04:10.56Fiskerboobgame 2000 is 2000
04:11.07Stanzillashe doesnt even have boobs
04:11.08Stanzillabut ok
04:11.13Stanzillagame is A**
04:11.13quiescensshrug
04:11.24Stanzillaquiescens: which spec?
04:12.56quiescensi has the impale set
04:14.58Ressyo.O
04:16.38FiskerThe Witness is Tripe-S+*** Stanzilla
04:32.55FiskerI see Stanzilla
04:33.15FiskerIt's like an exploration game where the things you're looking for are highlighted
04:50.41StanzillaFisker is such a good friend
04:50.46Stanzillaalways trashtalking the stuff I like
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04:56.38Fiskerno trashtalk Stanzilla
05:07.28quiescenso.o
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06:07.45StanzillaGnarfoz Phixion http://www.anandtech.com/show/9995/das-keyboard-unveils-its-first-gaming-peripherals
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07:04.36Fiskernice Stanzilla
07:05.01Fiskerthat mouse looks a lot like g502
07:05.32FiskerAlso hi Stanzilla
07:05.40FiskerHow's tomb raider?
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07:15.29Stanzillagreat
07:15.46Stanzillaprobably getting the season pass when it is cheaper
07:16.27FiskerWhat's the digital deluxe version?
07:16.35Stanzillagame + season pass
07:17.55TorhalHey Fisker
07:17.57TorhalBan?
07:18.00Fiskerno ban
07:18.09TorhalOh.
08:28.57Phixionnice
09:23.01Stanzilladone with tomb raider
09:23.17Stanzilla69% in 14h
09:23.24Stanzillastill lots of shit to do though
09:23.25Phixiongrats
09:23.32Phixion0% in 0hrs here
09:23.37Phixion\o/
09:24.43Stanzillahaha achievements were bugged when I played
09:24.44Stanzillagot 0
09:24.45Stanzillagg wp
09:24.57Phixionnice
09:27.12nevcairieli already got a few last night while you were still playing
09:27.14nevcairielmaybe you are just bad?
09:27.15nevcairiel:D
09:27.26Stanzillano, oyu had to restart steam for it to work
09:27.59nevcairielguess that works, i only started it at like 23:00
09:33.34StanzillaI'm 12, what is this http://i.imgur.com/RHETvrO.png
09:34.31nevcairielit says what it is in the screenshot
09:34.39Stanzillasay what
09:37.54Gnarfoznevcairiel: neat. ndis.sys was really low while I was sleeping, but that also means I can't confirm the sound issue didn't happen ^^
09:38.36Gnarfozinstead, tcpip.sys was leading the charts with a maximum execution time of something like 380 ms, but my guess is that that's from the 24h disconnect or something
09:39.12nevcairielwhat did you change
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09:55.04Gnarfozwent back to intel nic but with the much more recent drivers
09:55.38GnarfozI'll see tonight if it actually helps in practice, gonna D3 a bit, most likely
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10:16.05Stanzillahttp://arstechnica.com/security/2016/01/high-severity-bug-in-openssl-allows-attackers-to-decrypt-https-traffic/
10:17.30nevcairielthat "high severity" thing is totally overrated, the conditions you have to fullfill the be vulnerable are crazy
10:17.41nevcairiels/the be/to be/
10:18.06nevcairielnot to mention that many production environments probably dont even use 1.2 yet
10:18.09nevcairiel1.0.2*
10:27.59Gnarfozwho even has DSA certs
10:28.03znfhttp://i.imgur.com/XWhf4pR.png
10:28.05znfSon of a cunt.
10:28.25znfIs there any way to speed up bind to do multiple synchroneous AXFR/IXFR transfers?
10:41.06znfall these years and I still have no idea how to use bind's logging options
10:42.01Gnarfozvlad somehow come off as a more IT savvy version of Amarande, but sometimes just as misguided/confused
10:42.24Megalonvlad the impaler?
10:43.07Gnarfoz(no relation)
10:47.48Fiskernice Stanzilla
10:47.58Fisker69% done but still lots of shit to do?
10:48.04Fiskerisn't that 31%?
11:03.23znfhonestly, why are indian tech support so bad?
11:03.29znf$client complains about latency
11:03.34znfI tell him to run mtr against the node
11:03.36znfhe does it from the node
11:09.54sbbecause 0.1$/day or something like that?
11:10.06sbyou get what you pay for.
11:11.16Megalonthen what about znf who gets paid 0.0$/day
11:14.36sbdo the math :p
11:16.25Megalon0.0$/day * 20 workdays = not a lot of moneyz
11:16.26Megalon:(
11:18.02Phixion:(
11:18.17Fiskerso nevcairiel
11:18.24FiskerHow should I all monitors in the world?
11:18.33Phixionbe rich
11:18.36Fiskernice
11:18.42Phixionyep
11:18.49FiskerI want a multimonitor setup but it's hard to look into
11:18.53Phixionit's also the answer to all other questions
11:19.24Phixionwhats hard about it
11:23.04Megalongetting rich was super easy
11:23.10Megalonmy parents already were
11:28.18nevcairielhttp://imgur.com/gallery/KjxL5bc
11:29.14nevcairielFisker: ask more clear questions and we can help you =p
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11:45.28FiskerI just meant it seems to be hard to find any sort of info or easily accessible list of various monitor thingies to put the monitor on nevcairiel
11:45.46nevcairieli have a thing called a desk
11:45.54Fiskernice
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11:46.09FiskerShould've said I meant one of those vesa-mountable montrosities
11:46.20nevcairieli tried one of those once
11:46.30nevcairielthe problem is that they need space behind the desk for the arms to go
11:46.32nevcairielwhich i dont have
11:46.34nevcairielso no worky
11:47.06Repoquartz: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 3.2.6  (19 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Update copyright to 2016
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11:48.47Repomapster: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 1.6.5  (8 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Update copyright to 2016
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11:50.16FiskerNice even Blizzard's mission packs can't be finished in one go
11:50.18Fisker( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
11:50.22Fiskermission pack trilogy
11:50.54FiskerPre-purchase for 3 episodes containing 3 missions each.
11:50.54FiskerFirst Nova mission pack is expected to release on or before June 19, 2016.
11:50.56Fiskerlolo
11:51.06Gnarfozhttp://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/weltall/weltall-usa-erklaeren-sich-zum-verwalter-der-schuerfrechte-a-1065118.html oO
11:51.32nevcairielas if some law in some country could just declare themself as anything
11:51.57Gnarfozthey're in a good position to try and enforce it, which is probably also why they have no qualms about doing shit like this :p
11:55.18Gnarfozhttp://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/articles/225775-image/possible-samsung-galaxy-s7-leak-2.jpg qualcomm \o/
11:55.47sbi'm very happy with my new sony
11:56.35sbalso - coworker (or better "my boss" (abteilungsleiter)) dropped his phone into a wasser-pfuetze after just 1 week
11:57.00Megalonso he... threw it on the ground?
11:57.08sbno, it slipped out of his pocket
11:57.19sbwhen he got out of his car
11:57.29Megalonlol
11:57.33sbwell "haettest mal besser das sony genommen..." is obvious :D
11:58.00FiskerI hate the Galaxy S*
11:58.10Megalondoes this guy wear female pants?
11:58.19Megalonwith "pockets"?
11:58.43Megalonat least in my pants my phone has a hard time just slipping on on accident :D
11:59.12sbno idea, maybe it was some hemd-tasche or his jacket
11:59.24znfwth is wasser-pfuetze
11:59.30sb:D
11:59.41sbpuddle
12:00.09znf...
12:01.14quiescenso.o
12:05.07nevcairielphones in hemd-tasche is dangerous
12:05.11nevcairieldropped mine once or twice
12:05.15nevcairielbut not in puddles
12:05.21znfWhat ticketing system is popular these days?
12:05.26znfissue tracking, whatever
12:05.44nevcairieljira is still hyped, but i find it a tab bit too complex
12:06.10znfI'm not touching java with a 10ft pole
12:06.33znfalso, was thinking of open source/free
12:06.41znfafaik jira is not free
12:06.42nevcairieli like simple things like mantis, but its probably too under-featured for most
12:07.22sbosticket?
12:07.27Gnarfozsb: hope you're still enjoying your phone when they stop updating it! :D
12:07.48sbGnarfoz: that wont happen for 2-3 years
12:08.01sb=> new phone
12:08.05nevcairielyou wish =p
12:08.20nevcairielspeaking of wishing, wonder when the 6.0 update for the S6 arrives
12:08.30znfStill too lazy to put 6.0 on my G4
12:09.04sbwe had like ~20 S6-E and only ~5 Z5 orders
12:09.08Gnarfoz2-3 years, good luck
12:09.21Gnarfoznevcairiel: February, supposedly
12:09.32nevcairielso, monday?
12:09.34sbGnarfoz: they announced 6.0 for the z3
12:09.56Gnarfozyour point?
12:10.03Gnarfozthe z3 is from 2014-09
12:10.10sbsee
12:10.11Gnarfozthat's not even 2 years now
12:10.23sbwe get new phones every 2 years
12:10.29Gnarfozwell, you suck
12:10.32Gnarfoz:p
12:10.33sbso i can live 1/2 year without updates
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12:10.48znfcompany phone?
12:10.50sbor unlock/root then :p
12:10.51sbyes
12:11.11Gnarfozif you do that, you'll cripple the camera and screen
12:11.15nevcairielmy phones rarely get to be 2 years because i cant resist bbuying a new one
12:11.36Gnarfozyou just earn too much money ;p
12:11.43nevcairielthere is no such thing
12:11.47znfnot only that
12:11.52znfhe doesn't have anything to spend it on except toys
12:11.53znf:-S
12:11.58nevcairielthis is true
12:12.01Gnarfoz:D
12:12.03sbGnarfoz: i know
12:12.09Gnarfozan acceptable situation, IMHO
12:12.18Gnarfozmore money to spend \o/
12:12.19Megalonsuch is the bachelors life
12:12.21Megalon8)
12:12.23sbGnarfoz: still better than nexus camera :D
12:12.30Gnarfozanything is better than nexus camera
12:12.44nevcairieldidnt the new nexii supposedly have good cameras?
12:12.54nevcairiel(albeit the rest of the phone was crap-ish)
12:12.56Gnarfozonly compared to the terrible previous nexus
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12:13.25Gnarfoz(btw, that pluralisation is wrong)
12:13.35nevcairielsounds cute though
12:13.51Gnarfozit irks my Latin :|
12:14.07Megaloni'll give my daughter that as a middle name
12:14.09Gnarfozblame German schools
12:14.16Megaloncoco schantall nexii
12:14.25Gnarfozyou missed Schackeline
12:14.38Gnarfozemily-extra? :p
12:14.40Megalonlets not go overboard with 4
12:14.47nevcairielyou are entitles to 5
12:14.48nevcairieluse them!
12:14.49znfpeople still say my N5 took nice pictures :-S
12:14.51nevcairielentitled*
12:14.51Megalonstill need a third one for my son
12:14.55znfSo not sure why the hate for the Nexus cameras :(
12:14.55Megaloni only have Dörte Justin
12:15.05nevcairielisnt dörte a female name
12:15.13MegalonTRIGGERED
12:15.17Megalonshitlord
12:18.40sbyou still need someone to fertilize your eggs!
12:19.06Megalonlike that's a problem anywhere in the world
12:22.08Megalonhttp://i.imgur.com/yMqV116.jpg woot woot
12:22.14Megalonare they trying to h4x0r me? :<
12:32.55Gnarfozthey already have
12:34.09quiescensgasp
12:37.51Phixiongives quiescens a cookie
12:37.58quiescens\o/
12:43.02Phixionit was a tracking cookie
12:48.39sbhttp://stadt-bremerhaven.de/o2-und-e-plus-kunden-plagt-der-10-minuten-bug/ haha :|
12:50.59Phixionstadt-bremerhaven?
12:51.03Phixionkek
12:51.41sbhuh?
12:51.57sbdon't tell me you dont know that page
12:52.09Phixionshrugs
12:54.38znfanyone ever set up office 365 mail thingies?
12:55.24Phixionnods
12:55.26Phixionsadly
12:55.52Phixionwell, specify thingies
12:57.40Phixioni did everything except the client stuff
12:58.12znf$client requested they move a few users to Office 365
12:58.21Phixionfrom?
12:58.21znfbut keep everyone else on their current mail server
12:58.27znfI've no idea how to set it up
12:58.30Phixionexchange?
12:58.47znfpostfix
12:59.00Gnarfozpostfix is not a mailserver of *that kind*
12:59.01Gnarfozis it
12:59.34Gnarfoz(i.e. it deals with sending/receiving them, but not with allowing users access to them)
12:59.39znfcan't I host 5 users on Microsoft and the rest on a local server
13:00.11znfhttp://secopsmonkey.com/better-mail-relaying-postfix-through-office-365.html
13:00.15znfI'm looking at this
13:00.16znfbut I'm not sure
13:00.22znfthat it's what I want
13:00.27Phixionyou need to change the mx at one point dont you? could use forwardings etc
13:00.34Phixionbut crappy solution
13:01.02znfDoesn't Ofice365 have a crappy button for "if user not found here, send to this server"?
13:01.40znfhttps://support.office.com/en-us/article/Pilot-Office-365-with-a-few-email-addresses-on-your-custom-domain-39cee536-6a03-40cf-b9c1-f301bb6001d7
13:02.59znfit doesn't
13:03.01znffuckin' retarded
13:03.48Gnarfozexpecting it to have such a button seems way more retarded
13:13.52Megalonwhy doesn't this fucking thing have a "do exactly that obscure thing i want you to do ffs"-button???!!1
13:15.30quiescensznf would need a hundred buttons like that
13:16.58znfMegalon, it's not obscure
13:17.24Megalonthat's what all the gypsys say about their voodoo
13:17.26znfnot everyone wants to move their whole company to office365
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13:25.25znfI made pasta!
13:26.02quiescens\o/
13:26.09quiescensgives znf a cookie
13:37.34Stanzillasb: sony is one of the vendors that commited to monthly updates afaik
13:38.44znf:o
13:38.44znfwoah
13:38.46znfmuch update
13:38.47znfvery wow
13:38.49znfsuch security
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13:54.25nevcairielStanzilla: that doesnt guarantee you actually get new versions of android
13:54.32nevcairielmight just be security u pdates
14:14.45Gnarfozindeed.
14:14.56Gnarfozit's not like Samsung doesn't provide those, too
14:15.07Gnarfozbut people only hear "update" and assume "all future Android versions"
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14:50.34Phixionback
16:14.52Megalonhttp://i.imgur.com/4d3VBWM.jpg damn those breweries are desperate for new tastes
16:15.04Megalonnex in line: Geschmacksrichtung Rindenmulch
16:15.21winklol
16:16.34winkMegalon: Morchl is slang? because ingredients look fine
16:17.11Megalonit's a fucking mushroom
16:17.47winkwell. think they're using them? :P
16:18.03Megalondon't know, but the first thing that comes to my mind when reading morchel is https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemeine_Stinkmorchel
16:18.17Megaloncommon stinkhorn, not something i would wanna have in my beer :P
16:18.31Megaloni don't like beer anyway but morchl beer sounds extra disgusting :D
16:18.41winkI know
16:18.46winkbut I won't believe it
16:19.16winkwebsite sounds like normal dark beer]
16:19.20Megalondon't think the put morchels in it
16:19.31Megalonbut why would you call a drink after a stinky fungus
16:19.33Megalon:S
16:20.04winkdunno!
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17:11.28Phixionsets mode to weekend
17:12.17Funkeh`mr Stanzilla is there going to be a nexus tablet this year
17:13.28Phixionslides a stinkmorchel in Megalon's pocket
17:27.25Megalontsts
17:32.06Fiskernever Funkeh`
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18:12.44Gnarfoznevcairiel: http://i.imgur.com/B8uGs9i.png
18:12.59Gnarfozafter 9.5 hours
18:13.00nevcairielso still good?
18:13.05nevcairielnow start a game
18:13.05nevcairiel:D
18:13.07Gnarfozwell I wasn't home
18:13.11Gnarfoznow comes the real test ^^
18:13.14nevcairielwas the torrent home?
18:13.17Gnarfozyeah it was
18:13.29nevcairieli wish you luck, etc
18:13.33Gnarfozty ty
18:14.10GnarfozI also grabbed 2 NICs from work and took my USB DAC thing home, so I'm all set to nerd this problem into oblivion
18:14.45nevcairielmaybe you wont have to
18:16.03Gnarfozthat'd be the best way for things to go
18:16.44quiescenswhat did you break?
18:16.46quiescenso.o
18:16.54nevcairielSometimes situations like this irk me ... colleague was working on a weird issue all week on and off, today he gave up and commited some ugly hack fix to the code ... took me an hour to find the real problem and fix it properly
18:17.02nevcairieli cant fix every damn single issue everytime =(
18:17.14quiescens):
18:17.19quiescensgives nevcairiel a cookie
18:19.45Fiskernice Stanzilla
18:19.53Fiskerrunning around crusader is most popular
18:20.37Fiskeror not most popular I see
18:40.59FiskerStanzilla
18:41.06Fiskeris the new tomb raider dubbed in german?
18:44.52StanzillaFisker: dunno, always play english
18:44.56StanzillaFunkeh`: probably
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18:50.50quiescenso.o
18:51.07Megalonhe's here, both of him
18:51.08quiescensArcharodim++
18:55.44nevcairielFisker: i think so yes
18:55.47nevcairielbut also play english
19:33.57Stanzillachrome dev 50 is out \o/
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20:37.10Gnarfoznevcairiel: woah, DWM (or whoever is responsible for drawing the taskbar) is going super mad when I start a video now :D
20:37.39Gnarfozflickering like crazy for 2 seconds or so
20:38.18Gnarfozperhaps I should turn the GPU back to regular? which is kind of weird, considering that's just pretend-regular because it's pcie
20:38.29nevcairielbest to try
20:38.37Gnarfozindeed, not many other options ^^
20:46.42Gnarfozfast internet is awesome and a curse. downloading those obese nvidia drivers (getting close to 400 MiB) but still can't get further than page 3 in the release notes pdf before they're done downloading. :D
20:56.28GnarfozStanzilla: man, I was 5 seconds too slow
20:57.40Stanzilla: )
20:58.34GnarfozI wonder if the thread will make it to its 2 year anniversary
21:44.57FiskerI miss material chrome Stanzilla
22:00.46nevcairielGnarfoz: did your gpu return to normal?
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22:14.19nevcairielStanzilla: did you do the witch dlc mission? that one was crazy
22:15.36FiskerI played the witness
22:16.07Stanzillanevcairiel: I dont have any DLC
22:16.15StanzillaFisker: enable it then
22:16.16nevcairieli got them for simply preordering i think
22:16.40FiskerDo you want my dlc Stanzilla ?
22:16.52FiskerAlso why disable it then?
22:18.04Stanzillanevcairiel: yeah I bought a key on g2a so no preorder bonus
22:18.09nevcairielah
22:18.21StanzillaFisker: the flag was changed so and default is disabled, I think
22:18.30FiskerAh
22:18.49Stanzillathey enabled it by default on chrome os so the name changed (or so)
22:21.38Stanzillaugh season pass key is still 30 euro on g2a
22:22.09Stanzillathat is more expensive than on steam lol
22:22.31FiskerJust pirate the game if you're going to use g2a
22:22.44Stanzillanope
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22:34.19Megalonrude Fisker :<
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