IRC log for #wowace on 20160113

00:00.59quiescens\o/
00:01.32quiescensdid you broked the patch stan
00:02.45Megalonhe borksed it
01:14.14Repoweakauras-2: 03Stanzilla 07master * 2.1.0.17-15-gb5d1ad5  (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Text: Fix text sizes over 35 for initial aura
01:19.38nebulaStanzilla: you probably know this, with the new diablo patch, do the set dungeon events go live on friday with the new season or now
01:20.30Torhalnevcairiel: Events, or the dungeons themselves? The latter are live now.
01:20.36Torhalnebula: ^
01:20.39TorhalI fail at tab.
01:21.35nebulai just called them that because you just need to run to it on the map and go down, wasn't sure if you could start doing them yet
01:52.03quiescenswhat are those supposed set dungeons supposed to be for anyway?
01:53.38quiescensoh, wings and stuff
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03:54.27Reporenewing-mist-tracker: 03Ljtibs 07master * eb7d9a0 Main.lua: [+1 commit] Don't bind to events on non monk classes
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04:55.44Fiskerhey Torhal
04:56.49Torhalhey Fisker
04:56.54TorhalDiablo III?
04:57.02Fiskery
04:57.08Fiskerbut actually work
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08:25.41nevcairielStanzilla: does your d3 also not quit properly anymore since 2.4? need to task manager kill mine
08:27.07nevcairiel... and one thing I noticed, playing the game in german with shortened numbers is terrible. In english its just "200M" and "200B" .. in german its "200 Mio." and "200 Mil." .. looks terrible.  /me switches back to english
08:27.38nevcairielactually "200 Mrd." for the second case
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09:23.42Phixionswitch to english \o/
09:37.36nevcairielWhen you play with your german friends, its sometimes helpful to use the same words as them, so I tried. Not doing the crappy german numbers tho.
09:51.24winkhaha
09:51.44winkafter 6-8 years on EU whenever talking to some friends of mine playing on DE
09:52.03winkwe'd usually tell a story and then have to explain stuff to each other
09:52.23winkall skills, all instances, etc.pp :P
09:52.35winkstill find German WoW very very weird
09:53.31nevcairieli would never consider doing that for wow, its just too crazy
09:53.56nevcairielbut diablo in german isnt that bad, or used to be anyway
09:54.01nevcairielthe number abbreviations are annoying
09:54.08nevcairielMio. and Mrd., bleh
09:54.39nevcairielM and B are much shorter and easier to spot on a busy screen
09:54.46Megalontosses his Sturmschild at nev
09:55.13nevcairielbecause stormshield is that different
09:55.52Megalonone of the few statless legendaries
09:57.22nevcairieli'm sure it'll get some fancy affix sooner or later
09:57.51nevcairieleven all those crappy chest pieces like aquilla and heart of iron got recycled now
09:58.26nevcairielthat just leaves tyraels =p
10:00.20Megalonlegendary affix: Fisker
10:00.40nevcairieldoes it fisk the enemies?
10:00.54Megalonor the wielder
10:00.59Megalonit's a 50/50
10:01.01nevcairielboth preferably
10:01.09Megalonor that haha
10:01.42Megalon"occasionally deletes the games while playing"
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11:32.20Stanzillanevcairiel: closed fine for me
11:40.37Phixionnew season yet?
11:41.20MegalonPhixion: friday
11:41.48Megalonthey even released a video for it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfVsfOSbJY0
11:41.52Megalon( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
11:43.22Phixioni'll be out on friday
11:43.24Phixion:(
11:47.05Megalon:[
11:47.22Megalonis this reallife
11:47.25Megalonor just fantasy?
11:47.43Fiskerworked for me nevcairiel
11:47.50Phixionhey Fisker
11:47.53Phixioni mean nothey
11:47.56Phixionhey Megalon
11:47.59Fiskerwow ok Phixion
11:48.02Fiskerhey though Phixion
11:48.04Megalonhey Phixion
11:48.06Phixioncant hey entire world
11:48.11Megalonnothey Fisker
11:48.23Megalonyou have to einteil your heys
11:48.24Fiskerhttp://www.androidpolice.com/2016/01/12/maps-v9-19-introduces-new-driving-mode-with-traffic-updates-and-etas-audio-toggle-for-navigation-and-timeline-settings-apk-download-teardown/ <-why won't google give us this Phixion ?
11:48.27Megalonor else you run out
11:48.31Fiskerplease Phixion :(
11:48.45Phixionnice
11:48.53Phixiongoogle obviously hates us
11:48.56Fiskery
11:49.06Fiskerworks if en-us on us vpn though
11:49.14Phixionnice
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12:10.54nevcairielcurse is down :(
12:11.26Phixion:(
12:12.05Phixionit's a curse
12:12.18nevcairielnow i cant read all the latest flame on mmoc
12:16.51Megalonawww nev
12:17.07Megalondon't worry
12:19.58Phixion1 of 20,374
12:20.01PhixionMartin, wir haben gerade eine Serie hinzugefügt, die Ihnen gefallen könnte
12:20.13Phixioneh
12:20.23Phixionsorry
12:20.37FiskerSo hyped for friday nevcairiel
12:20.39Fiskeryou in Phixion ?
12:20.47Phixionwow Fisker
12:20.54Fiskerwhy wow?
12:21.02Phixionill be out on fri
12:21.15Phixionmaybe ima play until 23:00ish
12:23.42Fiskerok
12:24.52Megalonout of your mind it seems, Phixion 8(
12:26.29Phixionok Fisker
12:26.32Phixionokay Megalon
12:26.46Fisker?
12:41.26Repobad-boy: 03funkydude * r1365  (2 files in 1 directory): anti-spam update
12:44.06Phixion?
12:51.10Megalon¿
12:59.54Phixion:(
13:00.16Phixionmate alle :(
13:00.26Phixiondies
13:04.57nevcairielPhixion: by 23:00 you can already be running t10 =p
13:08.49Phixionim working until 19 :|
13:08.53Phixionhome 20
13:09.01Phixioncould still work :)
13:09.23Phixionhc usually takes a bit longer tho
13:10.04Megaloni like to keep my stuff :o
13:13.06Fiskerhails hydra
13:14.50Fiskeryou know who I miss Phixion ?
13:16.35Phixionnope Fisker
13:19.11Fiskeryou
13:22.03Megalonwhy would you miss you
13:28.29Phixion:(
13:28.41Phixionim here though
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15:35.00Fiskerhow many D3 patches do we need Stanzilla ?
15:35.31nevcairielplenty
15:35.36FiskerOh looks like I'm bugged
15:36.17Stanzilla1
15:36.43nevcairielif it s till wants to apply a patch, restart b.net and try again
15:38.58quiescenso.o
15:39.57quiescensstickytapes a patch to nev
15:40.23Megalonpatches up quiescens using Fiskertape
15:40.56FiskerI'll try my best nevcairiel
15:41.03Phixiontry your best Fisker
15:43.19Fiskerhey Phixion
15:43.28Phixionhey Fisker
15:43.37FiskerWhy are you hating me?
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15:45.43FiskerRIP nevcairiel
15:46.38Phixionnever hate you Fisker
15:46.46FiskerI'm gonna use the D3 forums for useful information
15:46.48Megalonhate is such a strong word
15:46.52Phixionyes :|
15:47.03Fiskernice
15:47.06Megalondamn, someone is desperate :|
15:47.11FiskerI think a previous guildie has the same problem
15:47.15Fiskerloves Phixion
15:47.27Fisker<PROTECTED>
15:47.27Megalonyou call loving Phixion a problem?
15:47.28Fiskernever
15:47.30FiskerN E V E R
15:47.30Megalonthat's not nice :(
15:50.09PhixionI didnt do shit today :)
15:54.50PhixionUS// One node of cluster usdc1sc1n1d1 is DOWN
15:54.52Phixionnice
15:55.05Phixionglad I didn't grab any tickets
15:55.26Megaloni got a ticket today :|
15:55.54Phixion:(
15:56.42PhixionUnix team updated that the BW Test App is up and running on node usdc1sc1n2d7.
15:56.47Phixionshit's back up already :<
15:57.40PhixionI wish Fisker was in the unix team
15:57.59quiescensgo to sleep
15:58.01quiescenso.o
15:58.07FiskerAre you saying I couldn't get it up already Phixion ?
15:58.08FiskerThanks
15:58.11Fisker:'(
15:58.18Phixion(:
15:58.39Fiskerbye forever
15:58.51Phixion:'''(
16:06.55Megalonwas nice knowing you
16:07.38Phixion:(
16:09.25Fiskersorry Phixion
16:09.27Fiskeryou hurt me
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16:24.56Phixionoccupies quiescens' bed
16:30.33Fisker:'(
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17:42.33znfhttp://i.imgur.com/I1DMYJQ.png
17:42.34znf...?!
17:43.49nevcairielyou need to write the new table i think
17:44.11znfrestarting diskpart fixed it
17:44.12znfdunno how
17:44.43znfyou don't have to write the partition table when you change stuff, diskpart does it automatically, or it always did until now anyway
17:52.08Stanzillahttp://www.androidpolice.com/2016/01/13/google-app-v5-8-beta-brings-back-launcher-auto-rotation-on-phones-and-now-normalizes-icon-sizes-for-a-bit-of-consistency-apk-download/
17:52.13Stanzillafinally app icon resizing
18:12.27znf.o/ irccloud
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18:18.09Fiskerhey Torhal
18:18.21Torhalhey Fisker
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18:18.23TorhalMeep?
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18:18.38Phixionhey Torhal
18:18.44Fiskerno Torhal
18:18.51Fiskerhey Phixion
18:18.58Phixionmaybe Fisker
18:18.58Torhalhey Phixion
18:19.02TorhalFiskerMad?
18:19.04Fiskerrude
18:19.06Fiskerno Torhal
18:19.06Phixionalways
18:19.09Fiskernevermad
18:19.34TorhalWhat was that "bye forever" nonsense, then?
18:19.43Phixionmadness
18:20.04winknumberwang!
18:20.12FiskerNot me being mad Torhal
18:20.29TorhalSuicidal?
18:20.48Fiskersure
18:20.52Fiskeroh wow Stanzilla
18:21.00FiskerIt is beginning
18:21.36Stanzillayeah new alpha invite wave
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18:22.28TorhalUh, Stanzilla...
18:22.30TorhalAlpha waves are neural oscillations in the frequency range of 7.5–12.5 Hz arising from synchronous and coherent (in phase or constructive) electrical activity of thalamic pacemaker cells in humans.
18:22.58FiskerNot that Stanzilla
18:26.40StanzillaFisker: what else then
18:26.57Fiskerupdate wednesday
18:27.29Stanzillaah ok
18:29.52Phixiond3 doesnt quit correctly
18:29.53Phixion:|
18:30.31nevcairielPhixion: have that too
18:30.33nevcairielit hangs
18:30.39nevcairielsometimes it quits after a minute or so
18:30.42nevcairielsometimes longer
18:30.46nevcairieli have not been patient
18:30.49PhixionI see
18:32.11Phixionalmost everyone from my guild got alpha
18:32.58Phixionthey inviting like whole raidguilds?
18:33.01Stanzillasame
18:33.17Stanzillaare you in a top progress guild, Phixion
18:33.26Phixion~400
18:33.34Phixioni dont raid tho
18:33.35nevcairieli want too
18:33.56nevcairielshould've stayed in Stanzilla's guild
18:34.03StanzillaPhixion: archy mythic down?
18:34.05Stanzillaindeed nevcairiel
18:34.08Phixionyes Stanzilla
18:34.13Stanzillaok
18:34.25Stanzillabecause that rumour is going around again
18:34.31Stanzillathat they invited everyone with archi mythic down
18:36.03Stanzillahttps://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2016/01/13/announcing-windows-10-insider-preview-build-11099/
18:36.48PhixionStanzilla: that might be true
18:37.02Phixionfew of the B roster dont have alpha invites
18:37.10Phixionand they dont have archi down
18:37.11nevcairielthey should instead invite everyone with 10y subs!
18:41.54Fiskernice Stanzilla
18:42.07Fiskerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yT4ADuZGEVY&t=3m05s <-I like this one
18:42.50FiskerWith this build, defaults for some applications will be reset. Music & Video will default to Windows Media Player. This can be reconfigured opening Cortana or Search and searching for “Choose default apps by file type” to open the correct settings page.
18:42.53FiskerLike that's a mistake
18:42.54Fisker( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
18:43.10FiskerOh hi we changed your default browser back to edge because it's definitely a bug
18:43.36Stanzilla:D
18:44.53FiskerI was discussing how lame that it was that our national tv provider was ready with an ATV4 app for their TV app but hadn't even considered looking into Android TV despite being on the market for like a year
18:45.25Stanzillaof course windows defender update
18:45.35FiskerThe classic "You're not a developer"-fallacy popped up
18:45.50FiskerShould reply with that video and those like 10-20 lines of code necessary to make it happen
18:45.51Fisker( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
18:59.56PhixionI once asked the unix team
19:00.23Stanzillawhy is everything happening at the same time
19:00.24Stanzillaso annoying
19:00.58FiskerWait a minute
19:01.03FiskerWhat is the time
19:02.21Stanzillaapperantly stan is not allowed to play d3 time because windows build and legion alpha build
19:02.40FiskerGood
19:02.53FiskerI'm windowsing as we speak
19:03.06Phixionnew build in what ring?
19:03.23Phixionim on stable
19:03.24Stanzillafast
19:05.27Stanzillano new build for you then
19:12.05FiskerNew maps build
19:12.16FiskerDriving mode is stupid though
19:12.33FiskerI had thought it would do navigation based on where it thought you were going
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19:48.47Fiskeroh cool Stanzilla
19:49.15Fiskerthe taskbar is like translucent now
19:49.30FiskerKind of like the glass effect on Windows 7 windows
19:51.55Stanzillathat was always an option though, not sure that changed?
19:52.52Fiskeroh?
19:53.01FiskerI didn't notice it
19:53.10FiskerMaybe it's just hard to notice with f.lux
19:53.18Stanzillaor your wallpaper
19:55.05Fiskerwell that was pretty rekt
19:57.13FiskerWhy is inventory management in D3 still bad?
19:58.08Stanzillaas in it is always full?
19:58.54FiskerAs in hard to sort, hard to disenchant, hard to drop item, etc.
19:59.19FiskerJust feels like there was a bunch of obvious things they could've added
19:59.50FiskerIt is also fairly annoying having to browse through up to 10 tabs of storage now
19:59.54FiskerBut that's a lesser issue
20:00.00FiskerSearch would be great
20:00.10Stanzillathere is probably only one person working on the UI :D
20:00.16Stanzillaand that is not a joke
20:00.37nevcairielfisker needs organizational skills
20:00.53Fiskersadness Stanzilla
20:01.13StanzillaI need a bigger ssd
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20:01.19Stanzillaanyone has one spare?
20:01.24nevcairielsure
20:01.30nevcairiel128gb right on my desk
20:02.30FiskerBeen thinking about getting into the nvme game
20:02.43Stanzillameh 128gb is a bit small
20:06.33Fiskerdamn
20:06.39Fiskerlooking at this wizard thing
20:06.45Fiskergreater rift 70 solo
20:06.54Fiskerwasn't we only at like 40 a season ago or so?
20:07.02Stanzillanah
20:07.12Stanzillathe achievement was changed from 60 to 70
20:07.19Stanzillafor the new season
20:07.50nevcairiel40 was like 3 seasons ago
20:08.23Fiskeroh ok
20:08.36FiskerFeels like it was yesterday though
20:08.56Stanzilla40 was also the achievement for not wearing a set
20:09.07Stanzillaguess that is 50 now and will be even easier thanks to LoN
20:09.17nevcairielthey changed that to "no set at all"
20:09.21nevcairieland lowered it a bit i think
20:09.39Stanzillamkay
20:10.06nevcairielcan probably still do it with all the random blessed shield items
20:13.46Fiskerrekt
20:14.02FiskerThey bypassed the reset mechanic on Nexus
20:14.04FiskerRIP
20:14.45Stanzillajleclanche: have you tested inkeeper yet?
20:15.03jleclancheStanzilla: I don't use deck trackers; if I did I'd use HDT
20:15.06Fiskertested it for what?
20:15.09jleclanchewhy dont you use hdt?
20:15.11Fiskerit's a deck tracker now?
20:15.22Stanzillajleclanche: wasn able to detect my cards
20:15.29jleclanchehow so?
20:15.37Stanzilladunno
20:15.41Stanzillainkeeper worked fine first try
20:15.45Stanzilla*n
20:15.45jleclanchebe more specific man
20:15.50FiskerThey're two different things?
20:15.55FiskerInnkeeper is a collection manager
20:15.58StanzillaI tried the various import things and it did not import
20:16.03jleclanchehdt does collection management as well
20:16.08FiskerOnly via a plugin
20:16.10jleclanchebut innkeeper hooks into the game itself
20:17.12FiskerEither way I use both since I use the deck collection on hearthpwn for the decks
20:18.14Stanzillayeah same
20:18.26StanzillaI dont have a single good deck though :D
20:18.30Stanzillamy paladin one maybe comes close
20:18.32FiskerEarly Access Game
20:18.33Stanzillabut not really
20:18.36FiskerRelease Date: 4 Mar, 2014
20:18.37FiskerRIP
20:19.07FiskerThey haven't sent my dash yet Stanzilla
20:19.14FiskerYou need to raid their offices for me
20:19.55Fiskerhmm 332 wins on my warlock
20:22.53StanzillaI have like 120 total :D
20:28.18StanzillaFisker: http://i.imgur.com/ppWFY7r.png
20:28.20Stanzillasee bottom
20:28.26FiskerI saw
20:29.08Stanzillatook my VM to until 5min ago to upgrade
20:29.12Stanzillaslow af
20:31.24nevcairielupgrades take ages
20:31.42Stanzillayeh
20:31.57Stanzillauniversal apps now show their name diffently in the caption bar
20:33.04Stanzillanevcairiel: can you open the settings app and tell me what it shows there?
20:33.09Stanzillajust "Settings" right?
20:33.30nevcairielyes
20:33.50Stanzillahttp://i.imgur.com/pTkZ5dj.png
20:33.52nevcairielSettings in the window title, and SETTINGS below
20:34.05Stanzillaneeds more (R)
20:35.44Fiskerwtf is that Stanzilla ?
20:35.57Stanzillamail app and settings app?
20:38.13FiskerNeither of mine looks like that
20:40.35Stanzillawell ok then
20:41.35FiskerWell mail does now after readding the mail account
20:47.22Fiskerwhat build is C:\Windows\ImmersiveControlPanel\SystemSettings.exe?
20:50.47StanzillaFisker: http://i.imgur.com/Mqh5XFt.png
20:51.00Fiskerweird
20:51.18FiskerI wonder why they're different then
20:56.09Stanzillaznf: try --enable-grouped-history with chrome
20:56.36znfWill do
21:04.37FiskerCan't see anything to like reset settings or anything Stanzilla
21:04.38Fisker:(
21:04.58FiskerI did however rek my store
21:05.12Stanzillawell gz
21:05.14FiskerThank you random guide on the internet
21:22.03znfhttp://imgur.com/ujfDCor.jpg
21:22.10znfthat's the most retarded poster I've seen
21:24.57Fiskerskullpool?
21:26.13Ressydeadpool :P
21:27.18Stanzillaznf: http://i.imgur.com/mwEEdtm.png
21:28.02Fiskerlooks like skullpool to me Ressy!
21:28.30Fiskernice Stanzilla
21:37.42Fiskeroh well
21:37.55Fiskertime to "upgrade" to 11099
21:37.56Fiskerto fix it
21:38.39Stanzillahf gl
21:39.45FiskerDoes it keep the ESD somewhere?
21:40.02Stanzilladunno
21:40.04Stanzillaprobably
21:40.15Stanzillawhy do you reinstall now?
21:40.23Fiskerbecause my windows store no longer functions?
21:40.32Stanzillaok
21:42.12znfhttp://i.imgur.com/KEJeeEf.png
21:43.54znf^ don't you fuckin' love sd cards?
21:44.21nebulai'm pretty ok with non-shit sd cards
21:44.28znfclass 10
21:44.40znfsmall files = 100k/s
21:44.45znf17MB/sec now with a larger file
21:44.48znfstill slow as shit :-(
21:45.02znfaaaand now I have to go downstairs to the audi I'm fixing
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21:57.43Fiskerwhere was the esd tool again Stanzilla ?
21:59.06Fiskerfound it
22:28.08FiskerI did it Stanzilla
22:28.21FiskerStill just settings on mine though
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23:19.29znfThis video has been removed as a violation of YouTube's policy on nudity or sexual content.
23:19.34znfOH FUCK OFF YOUTUBE
23:20.22Primerwas your dick in the video?
23:20.23Stanzillaznf: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Or9Icf0I1k8
23:21.23znf...
23:21.30znfso you can get a vagina shaving tutorial on youtube
23:21.36znfbut not this? http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ec1_1452719527
23:21.40Stanzillaeducational video ofc
23:23.19Stanzillahaha
23:37.37GnarfozStanzilla: move your wifi ap to a more central location, out of the basement -- it's the only thing you can do if you don't want to spend money on some multi-antenna MIMO 802.11n/ac beast (and/or maybe even replaceable antennas... not that that helps much with Germany's radio power limits)
23:38.02Gnarfozand forget any multi-ap setups, I've yet to see one that works outside of enterprise hardware
23:38.22Gnarfozthe required "roaming" stuff just doesn't exist in consumer-grade hardware
23:38.33Gnarfoz(hence your devices being all confused when you tried)
23:38.57znfif you are a bit crafty
23:38.59Stanzilla:/
23:39.17znfyou can get a RB951 and you can hook up 2 x 5-7dBi antennas
23:39.21znfand you will get huge coverage
23:39.28znfbut only 802.11n in 2.4Ghz
23:39.39StanzillaGnarfoz: how much is hardware with roaming
23:40.25Gnarfozgood question, I've not had to buy that, yet. :D
23:40.43Stanzillathis is such a common problem
23:40.49Stanzillawhy hasnt anyone solved this properly yet
23:40.55znfStanzilla, UniFi hardware has roaming hardware
23:41.05Gnarfozdo they? I guess they would
23:41.07znferm
23:41.12znfroaming features*
23:41.32Gnarfozbasically anything that has a "wifi controller" of some sort is a candidate
23:41.43GnarfozUniFi has a cloud-based wifi controller, if I'm not mistaken
23:41.43znfyup, you do need a controller installed
23:41.49znfthey also have a local one
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23:41.55znfactually, the "local" one came first
23:41.59znfand it's the default way of setting it up
23:42.05Gnarfozgood to know
23:42.07GnarfozStanzilla: http://geizhals.de/?cat=wlanap&xf=1199_Ubiquiti#xf_top
23:42.21Gnarfozsort: alpha? what the hell
23:42.21Gnarfoz:D
23:42.22znfyou could use the UniFi AP In-Wall
23:42.55znf269€ for a pack of 5
23:42.57znfthat's not bad actually
23:42.58Gnarfozmore like http://geizhals.de/?cat=wlanap&v=e&hloc=at&hloc=de&sort=t&xf=529_802.11n~1199_Ubiquiti~529_802.11ac#xf_top
23:43.00StanzillaT_T
23:43.12znfow :(
23:43.16znfthat's only 2.4Ghz
23:43.32znfthat's disappointing
23:43.37Gnarfozhttp://geizhals.de/?cat=wlanap&asuch=in+wall&bpmax=&v=e&hloc=at&hloc=de&filter=aktualisieren&plz=&dist=&sort=t&xf=1199_Ubiquiti hm? hm.
23:43.50Gnarfoz265€ for 5 of those seems great?
23:43.56znfyeah
23:44.03Gnarfozwell, except none of those vendors actually have them in stock, lol
23:44.03znfless than 50€/ea
23:44.20znfwell, less than 60€
23:44.21znf:P
23:44.34znfbut that's too bad it only has 802.11n :(
23:44.41znfnot like I care about 5Ghz anywya
23:44.44znfpiece of shit band
23:45.07Gnarfoz5 GHz is at a disadvantage anyway, considering that it has a harder time dealing with obstacles/walls
23:45.13znfyup
23:45.19znfthe higher the frequency, the shittiest the penetration
23:45.28Gnarfozif your 2.4 GHz spectrum is not terribly overcrowded and you have reception problems to begin with, 2.4 is better
23:45.41znfexcept you won't get ac speeds
23:45.43znfbut meh
23:45.54znfI'm actually going to have to use those in-wall thingies for a friends hotel
23:46.21Gnarfozmost people don't really need those speeds, probably
23:46.38Stanzillawhy are cheaper APs so bad?
23:46.45Stanzillais it only because that roaming feature?
23:46.48znfno
23:46.51Gnarfozseems like you could get away with two well-placed UAP AC lite? I have no idea what their feature sets are
23:46.52znfit's because cheaper ones are crap :D
23:47.01znfand lack shitloads of features
23:47.07znfthese are enterprise ones, though
23:47.21Gnarfozactually, if you want really cheap, you're going to buy a dsl router/modem/wifi thing because they're cheaper than plain APs ;D
23:47.39Gnarfozwell, UniFi is "prosumer" really
23:47.56Stanzillaso http://geizhals.de/ubiquiti-unifi-ap-ac-lite-uap-ac-lite-a1325765.html this
23:47.59Stanzillabut why two?
23:48.16Gnarfozcoverage, I guess? I don't know the area you need to cover
23:48.33Stanzilla2 floors basically
23:48.35Gnarfozif you can move the AP to a better location, you could possibly get away with just the one you have
23:48.35Stanzillasmall ones
23:48.42Gnarfoz(like I initially said)
23:48.43znfthe thing is
23:48.49znfWiFi doesn't really penetrate "down"
23:48.52Stanzillado I have to connect the AP by wire?
23:48.53znfit always works up
23:48.56Gnarfozyes
23:48.59znfStanzilla, do you want half-speed?
23:48.59Stanzillaugh
23:49.13Stanzilladon't think I do
23:49.14Gnarfozwirless distribution systems... suck, basically
23:49.19znfthen connect them by wire
23:49.22znfI used WDS once
23:49.23znfOnce.
23:49.31znfMost horrible broken piece of shit ever
23:49.37GnarfozWDS - only once
23:49.38Gnarfoz:D
23:49.55StanzillaI have a 30m cable that goes from the router directly to my room :D
23:49.58Stanzillafor..obvious reasons
23:50.01Stanzillaeverything else here is wifi
23:50.20StanzillaI could just set up a splitter in my room and hook the ap up to that?
23:50.22znfFor what I remember, for "zero handoff" to work, you will need a controller runnign 24/7
23:50.33znfStanzilla, you mean a switch :P
23:50.38GnarfozI hope he does
23:50.38Gnarfoz:D
23:50.41Stanzillayes
23:50.42Stanzillasorry
23:50.44Gnarfozbut yes
23:50.50Stanzillahrm
23:51.05Stanzillaand swithces are cheap
23:51.15Stanzillaand I could use the aldi repeater/ap that I have
23:51.22Stanzillaassuming it works better when connected by wire
23:51.26Gnarfozas long as you feed it ethernet, it'll be fine - but like znf said, you'll have to be running a wifi controller somewhere if you want the roaming stuff to work -- unless they've integrated that into their AP's OS
23:51.28znfoh, seems that you don't need the controller to do zero handoff anymore
23:51.46Gnarfozapparently that is the case, then
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23:52.50znfhttps://plus.google.com/+LinusTorvalds/posts/PZ44aViKirs
23:52.51Stanzillayeah
23:52.57StanzillaI could just use a different ssid though?
23:53.02znfyou could
23:53.04Stanzillaand do like WLAN North and WLAN South
23:53.06znfbut your devices will suck balls anyway :D
23:54.11Gnarfozyeah
23:54.20Gnarfozthey'll stick to one like superglue
23:54.27Gnarfozif they can hear it at all, they'll stay there
23:54.34Gnarfoz"hear" in the wifi reception sense
23:54.39znfzero-handoff tells them to "gtfo to the other ap"
23:54.40Gnarfozthey'll only switch over if they lose it completely
23:54.53Stanzilla*sigh*
23:55.00znfyou know, Windows Pocket Edition actually had a toggle for roaming when low or no signal
23:55.03Gnarfozyeah. you can configure the "minimum rssi" i.e. how bad reception can be before they get told to move their ass
23:55.05znfin 2003!
23:55.12GnarfozAndroid does today! :D
23:55.17Gnarfozit's in developer options, though :|
23:55.43GnarfozI do wonder when our promised AeroHive wifi stuff will happen at work
23:55.54znfbah
23:55.59znfI have to go downstairs again
23:56.07Gnarfozwe're currently using a big bunch of FritzBox, D-Link and old no-name APs
23:56.15Gnarfoztotally legit enterprise setup.
23:56.45Stanzillawould buying a second fritzbox and setting that up as a repeater work?
23:56.49Stanzillaor same roaming problem?
23:56.50Gnarfozmeh. got home almost an hour ago, I wanted to take a look at The Expanse and then go sleep. :P
23:57.10GnarfozI'm not sure you could get the FritzBox to play repeater to the aldi thing.
23:57.28Gnarfozi.e. I'm not sure if that stuff isn't in some way proprietary
23:57.43Gnarfozbetter to try with one someone has lying around or so. :P
23:57.45Stanzillano this would be just two fritzboxes
23:57.53Gnarfozwell, that should probably work
23:58.13Gnarfozbut like znf said, repeating sucks balls since the wifi now has to spend half of its time talking to the wired AP
23:58.37Stanzillameh
23:58.43Gnarfozcutting bandwidth in half and increasing the noise floor on the 2.4 GHz spectrum for everyone (including your client devices)
23:58.52Gnarfozkeep in mind wifi is a shared medium: only 1 device can "speak" at a time
23:59.27Stanzillameeh
23:59.27Gnarfozin short: things nobody on the 802.11 working group thought of when they invented this stuff.
23:59.55Gnarfoz(which was before tablets, smartphones, voip phones, smart*, IoT and what not)

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