IRC log for #wowace on 20151203

00:41.09Stanzillahttps://support.microsoft.com/kb/3116908
00:41.11Stanzillaok microsoft
00:52.35MysticalOSthat's ok, some of the ones i've read lately are about as useful as a facebook app update change log
00:52.45MysticalOS"this update fixes things and improves things"
00:52.49MysticalOSTHANKS!
01:07.20Semlarfixes MysticalOS
01:20.01quiescensat least it doesn't say "this update breaks things and makes things worse"
01:20.03quiescenso.o
01:29.39chaud__znf lately or today
01:43.32StanzillaI think the flame was for in general when it comes to legion, chaud
01:43.35Stanzillathey hate you are so
01:43.42Stanzillanice spelling there
01:53.34Stanzillaalpha servers are up
01:54.39StanzillaPhixion: are you flagged?
02:01.34Gnarfozlast ditch https://twitter.com/Gnarfoz/status/672233966510972928 maybe bothering someone whose job isn't shitposting on twitter works? :P cc REssy
02:04.27Gnarfozhm, do I spy a floating mini player frame?
02:04.41Gnarfozhp, mana, holy power
02:04.54Stanzillayeah that's been there in the last build too
02:05.14Gnarfoz:(
02:05.41Semlarnameplate
02:06.03Gnarfoznameplate what?
02:06.17Semlarplayer nameplate
02:06.29Gnarfozreally?
02:06.41Semlarthere's code for it in the framexml
02:06.53GnarfozI guess that kind of makes sense for them to do it that way
02:06.54Semlari haven't actually seen it, but there should be a nameplate for the player
02:07.22Gnarfozplayer never moves around within the 3d frame
02:08.11Semlarthey move a bit
02:08.26Semlarand the camera can be angled so that they aren't in the center of the screen
02:35.58RessyUnbugged. >.>  Installing Legion
02:40.42Gnarfozcould have installed weeks ago
02:40.42RessySorry Gnarfoz
02:40.47Gnarfozalso, how did you fix it
02:40.51RessyI didn't
02:40.59RessyI mentioned I wasn't in Legion yet to a friend.
02:41.02Ressywho pulled a string
02:41.08Ressyand got it fixed immediately.
02:41.08GnarfozE string?
02:41.18Gnarfozpull moar strings! :P
02:41.28RessyI didn't pull strings. I didn't even know he was going to do it.
02:43.21Gnarfozso how many PTRs for you now? :P
02:43.49Ressy2
02:44.08Ressy2 & 5
02:44.08Gnarfozso it just replaced one?
02:44.11Ressy5 being Legion
02:44.18RessyI had 1 & 2
02:44.25Ressyonce 1 was gone, 5 automatically popped up
02:45.01Gnarfozconvoluted account system is convoluted
02:45.43StanzillaRessy: can you pull strings for other people? :D
02:45.51Gnarfozlike she said, she didn't
02:46.24Gnarfoz2015, when just knowing GMs isn't good enough anymore
02:46.28Gnarfozneed to go higher up
02:46.29Gnarfoz;D
02:46.33Stanzillayou know what I meant
02:46.43Gnarfozof course I did, that was my own question, too
02:48.41Gethei was fun while it lasted, they disabled addons in this build. not that i'm suprised
02:49.23Ressyawwwww
02:50.15Ressymkay. bed for me while Legion downloads. I'm wiped.
02:50.19Ressyand its gonna take a few hours
02:50.36Stanzillathat is not the hook a brother up I hoped it to be, Ressy
02:50.38Stanzillagood night though :D
02:50.45GnarfozI have a quote from a famous WoW character for you: "You are not prepared!" :P
02:51.04RessyI wasn't expecting to download it tonight.
02:51.12Gnarfozclient not installed, slow internet, not eliminated sleep... :D
02:51.13RessyI was gonna be in bed 30 mins ago
02:51.32Gnarfozeliminating sleep would be great
02:51.35Gnarfozor work
02:51.36Gnarfozor both
02:51.39Ressyi need my sleeeep
02:51.56Gnarfoznot if you eliminate the need!
02:51.57Gnarfoz:D
02:52.01Ressynope.
02:52.09Ressymeds mean I need more sleep than I used to get.
02:52.23Gnarfozmeds also seem to mean you don't get it :(
02:52.24Ressysoooo. Night :)
02:52.34Gnarfoz(not sleep. the joke.)
02:52.48Gnarfozyeah, bed times, CS is going to take ages to remove my PTR licences anyway
02:53.10Ressynights :P
03:04.41quiescenssleep is good o.o
03:15.53Phixionyou're good
03:21.11Stanzillaway to ignore me, Phixion
03:22.07PhixionStanzilla: yes
03:22.18Stanzillalucky bastard
03:22.20Phixionsorry :|
03:22.27Phixionsometimes lucky
03:22.57Phixionbedtime now though
03:24.01Stanzillabai
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03:32.31GnarfozStanzilla: no beta club
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06:08.50MysticalOShas char copy worked for anyone?
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09:17.48Gnarfozno, it's not available
09:23.24Megaloncopies *foz into a *char[] next to Fisker
09:50.22Torhalcasts Megalon to (void*)
09:53.20GnarfozPlay of the Game: The Unfeeling Void
09:54.20TorhalI'm going to play the game "Let's See If I Can Sleep Again."
09:58.30GnarfozTorhal: if you do, send some of that sleep over to me
09:58.42Gnarfozgrand total of 3 hours tonight >_>
09:58.58TorhalI had the same last night, then went to bed at 7pm only to awaken at 9pm
09:59.02TorhalIt's now 4am.
09:59.09TorhalFML.
09:59.19TorhalHonestly, though, walking away from the computer now.
10:01.06quiescenswhy you no sleep
10:01.07quiescens):
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10:32.40Megaloninjects Torhal with some adrenaline
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11:36.53znfchecks date
11:36.55znfchecks letsencrypt
11:36.56znf:-S
11:45.21sbcheck timezone!
11:45.39znf:-(
11:47.29Gnarfozstill believing in the hype
11:49.47znf6pm UTC
11:49.59znfGnarfoz, well, it's no fake hype, so what you talkin' about:?
11:52.10GnarfozI've elaborated multiple times why I think these guys are making themselves sounds way more important than they are, achieving what they achieve only by having "connections" and nothing of what they do being actually new, just put together differently
11:52.20Gnarfoz*sound
11:53.00znfI'm not sure how that is a bad thing?
11:53.06znfIt's still free certs.
11:53.10GnarfozI'm not saying it's inherently bad
11:53.11znfThat's the end goal. What's your point?
11:53.20Gnarfozjust that they're selling themselves differently than i think they should
11:53.26Gnarfozscripted cert handling: sslmate; free certs: CAcert; being silicon valley bros with the right people: letsencrypt
11:53.29znfAre they "selling" themselves? :)
11:53.42Gnarfozyes, they are, look at their hype campaign?
11:54.04znfFor me it's simple, black or white: who's free and recognized by all major browsers?
11:54.12GnarfozStartSSL :D
11:54.12znfCACert is not. Letsencrypt is.
11:54.21Gnarfozthat's not CAcert's fault, is it
11:54.32znfI really dislike getting certs from StartSSL, it's a painful process :-/
11:54.51znfThough they recently stopped asking me for manual validation for my domains, which is good
11:54.52Gnarfozonly because you're utterly picky and don't like anything
11:54.56znfBut I still hate having to verify the domains
11:55.12Gnarfozoh no, a CA doing what they're supposed to do, so bad
11:55.12znfI'm not "picky". I'm just annoyed that I have to ask for e-mail access from the owner of the domain
11:55.20Gnarfozyes, because THEY ARE DOING THEIR JOB
11:55.20Gnarfoz>_<
11:55.31GnarfozI can't fathom how you cannot see this
11:55.39Gnarfozthey are doing exactly what they should be doing
11:55.48znfI like letsencrypts' way better - check if you have access to the domain/webroot.
11:55.57znffar less painful
11:56.09Gnarfozthey could conceivably add that, but it doesn't really prove you own the domain
11:56.18GnarfozDNS registrar data does
11:56.21znfneither email...
11:56.33Gnarfozemail sure does when it's the email listed in DNS
11:56.39znfyou can't even get dns registrar data from .ro domains
11:56.44FiskerThen use TXT records
11:56.47Fiskerno reason to be a retard
11:57.00GnarfozFisker: but suddenly you've excluded anyone who doesn't know what that is
11:57.15Gnarfozbut sure, they could offer it as an alternative, I guess
11:57.15znfthen let's just publish ssl cert prints in the dns, use dnssec and be done with it :D
11:57.19FiskerSo what? That's what they already do
11:57.30Gnarfozthey exclude anyone who doesn't know what email is? ok
11:57.52znflike I said, I'm just annoyed when I install a cert for a client
11:57.53FiskerThey also exclude those who don't use e-mail
11:57.55Gnarfozznf: DNSSEC has its own set of problems =( but yeah
11:58.01GnarfozFisker: which is 0 people
11:58.04Fiskernope
11:58.06Gnarfozyep
11:58.11FiskerI know of at least one
11:58.12Fiskerso nope
11:58.14znfHaving to go trough with the client about how to use their email account...
11:58.16znfIt's simply painful.
11:58.21Gnarfozthat one guy doesn't own a domain, then
11:58.22znf"Do you have webmaster@?"
11:58.29znf"I don't know"
11:58.32znfOk, do you have postmaster?
11:58.35znfI don't know...
11:58.38Gnarfozsounds like you have a communication skill problem
11:58.38znfOK, can you create it? I don't know
11:58.40FiskerThere are more than one guy who doesn't own a domain
11:58.41znfOIAIOSYDSADASDASDASD LKAJDLAKSJD
11:58.52Fiskerregardless having an e-mail is secondary to having a domain
11:58.59znfPeople are simply clueless about email
11:59.01FiskerSo it's a bad setup
11:59.06GnarfozFisker: the cross-section of people owning a domain and not having email is: 0
11:59.36FiskerIt actually isn't
11:59.37Gnarfozhow'd he register it, by letter?
11:59.46Fiskersure you could do that
11:59.50Fiskerbut ok let me rephrase
12:00.04Fiskerowning a domain and an email server responsible for that domain
12:00.23Gnarfoznobody said anything about owning email SERVERS oO (nor is that necessary for this process)
12:00.36Fiskerowning/having access/whatever
12:00.42Gnarfozbut I give up, I'm certainly not against letsencrypt existing
12:00.48FiskerYou need a registered mx record for that domain which you can reach
12:01.08Fiskerwhich is absolutely irrelevant for the purpose of owning a domain
12:01.35Gnarfozsure, but if you're in the position to register a domain without email, you're already part of a small group that would know how to handle that situation
12:01.56Gnarfoz(read: admins)
12:01.56FiskerSure
12:02.02FiskerBut you shouldn't need to
12:02.06Gnarfoztrue
12:02.13Gnarfozthey should offer alternatives
12:02.15znfGnarfoz, no.
12:02.18znfSorry to disagree.
12:02.25Gnarfozsorry notsorry
12:02.25Gnarfoz:D
12:02.37znfThere's plenty of people who registered a domain but they don't know how to have email on it.
12:02.42Gnarfozoffering domains with just... domains and nothing else is standard procedure in .ro?
12:02.47znfSure, they can register with their @gmail.com address
12:03.00znfBut setting up their email on @domain.ro ? nope.
12:03.03FiskerThe world is moving towards always-encrypted traffic, certificates are no longer just about verifying the physical presence of a domain but the verifying that the connection is untampered with
12:03.15znfGnarfoz, .ro registers for life-time
12:03.19Gnarfozthat's always been what SSL/TLS is about, Fisker
12:03.20znfso most people just buy the domain name
12:03.29znffrom the romanian domain authority thingie, RoTLD
12:04.06GnarfozI'd be interested in the RoTLD/NIC guidelines if they exist in english
12:04.11Gnarfozsounds interesting
12:04.25znfHorrible system
12:04.28znfdon't even...
12:04.43znfThey used to have a tech-c field
12:05.02znfSo if a client bought a domain name, you could simply be listed as a tech-c and do all modifications for the domain. That was heaven.
12:05.06znfBut they scraped it.
12:05.07Gnarfozguess my perception bias is stronk, with DENIC not even allowing registrations without valid street addresses
12:05.32znfNow, only the domain owner can make tech modifications
12:05.34GnarfozGerman bureaucracy master race
12:05.40znfAnd every time you change something, they email you an auth key
12:05.44znfwhcih you have to enter
12:05.55znfso, if you have to add 2 NS glue records, you have to confirm that, twice
12:06.00znfand no, they don't send you a link to click
12:06.04znfthey send you the key
12:06.13znfI had to recently change 4 IPs for glue records
12:06.30znfand the NS for a single domain
12:06.34znfthat was 6 emails with keys...
12:06.54znfThere is no way to figure out what domains you have registered under your name/email address.
12:06.55Gnarfozok, you having super fast internet somehow made me think you have modern internet
12:06.59Gnarfozbut sounds like you're stuck in 1980
12:07.08znfThe guys who run RoTLD are old farts
12:07.13znfThere are some smart / young / fresh guys there
12:07.16Gnarfozwell, there's no way to do that on DENIC, either
12:07.25Gnarfozat least not for users
12:07.31znfBut the old ones are in charge, so they don't alloow modern shit
12:08.03znfThey still allow you to use your own email address hosted on your own domain for admin stuff
12:08.17znfso, for example, let's say you lose access to your hosting/dns servers, for some reasons
12:08.23znfand you forgot the password to your domain
12:08.31znf...you click forget password
12:08.33znfand they mail it to you
12:08.42znf...on a e-mail address that is obviously not working
12:08.49Gnarfozsounds legit
12:08.57znfthen you have to fill out a form and FAX it to them for password recovery
12:08.57GnarfozPHP7 bro
12:09.45znfNow, I was lucky because I had that domain contact address aliased to myself, for all 6 keys I had to confirm
12:09.49znfNow do that with a client who's slow as fuck to reply :)
12:10.02znfYou can't ask him for access to his email address, because that's not professional
12:13.30Gnarfozhttp://talks.php.net/froscon15#/wpbench znf
12:13.43znfhhvm > *
12:14.14znfGnarfoz, at least you're stuck in the 90s with the internet speed!
12:14.16Gnarfozfor wp, it seems (although those slides are old)
12:14.16znfI take comfort in that :D
12:14.24Gnarfozbut check the other slides, php7 beats hhvm in many
12:14.43Gnarfozznf: I'm personally at 100/30 now, so I'm somewhat ok :D
12:14.54Gnarfozlots of people stuck at 16/1 or less, though ^^
12:16.52znfthough HHVM is at 3.10 now
12:16.56Megalonhm
12:17.51znfmost of my clients are on worpdress anyway, and that's where the "real world usage" is for me :D
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13:42.02Fisker2½ hours btw znf
13:42.36znfFisker: yed
13:42.38znfYes
13:43.03Megalonthe happening: again?
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15:06.27StanzillaGnarfoz: got my extra ptr accounts removed now
15:09.58GnarfozStanzilla: I'm waiting on CS, apparently I don't know my security question answer
15:10.32Stanzillahah, mine was easy
15:12.01Gnarfozmine should have been
15:12.10Gnarfozbut I probably put something clever, or simply something wrong
15:12.27Stanzillaalways a great idea :D
15:13.01Megalonhave you tried bigdick99?
15:13.45Gnarfozthat's not really appropriate for "mother's birthplace" :P
15:13.53Gnarfozalthough possibly remotely related
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15:33.47Megalonwell, mother's birthplace is literally grandma's ...
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15:49.10winkm(
16:18.35GnarfozStanzilla: my CS agent is slow
16:18.50Gnarfozsent my ID hours ago, no reply :(
16:19.01Stanzilla:(
16:19.02Stanzilladid it over night
16:19.04nevcairielhow do you even collect all these PTR accounts
16:19.11Gnarfozby blizz being weird?
16:19.14Gnarfozno idea :P
16:19.18Stanzillathe ones we had are from when they bugged shit
16:19.24Gnarfozyeh
16:19.32GnarfozWoW1 should be my regular old PTR account
16:19.34GnarfozWoW2 is some previous beta
16:19.45Gnarfoz(and the starter editions probably don't even factor in, but I"m also having those removed)
16:19.47nevcairielold betas just vanish for me after they ended
16:19.58Stanzillasadness http://vgy.me/6Su8Hh.png
16:20.02Stanzillanevcairiel: it was a one time thing
16:20.08Gnarfozwell, for betas done as betas, that's true
16:20.13Gnarfozbut they keep using PTRs for beta
16:20.14Stanzillasomething with licenses breaking and they had to recreate something
16:20.14Gnarfozweirdos
16:20.30GnarfozStanzilla: that looks so weird
16:20.43Stanzillawhy
16:22.00Gnarfozprobably the 2 live accounts throwing me off
16:22.01Gnarfozhttp://i.imgur.com/hUbkyDD.png
16:22.22Stanzilla2nd live account is my just created RAF account
16:22.24Semlaryou people and your legions
16:22.41Gnarfozit's the exact opposite of mine - account names for live because you have two
16:22.47Gnarfozmine does so for ptr and starter
16:22.58StanzillaI had them remove starter EU, too
16:23.11Gnarfozsure, like I'm going to
16:23.11Stanzillano use for that
16:23.13nevcairielwhy does your live account have no name Gnarfoz
16:23.18Gnarfozbecause it's the only one
16:23.18nevcairielor do they just not show one if its only one
16:23.20Stanzillastill keeping starter US in case that is useful again some day
16:23.32GnarfozI can always recreate that if necessary ^^
16:23.53nevcairieli have two live accounts because I created a RAF account a couple years ago
16:23.54nevcairielhttp://imgur.com/kkJfyfg
16:23.54GnarfozI only hope CS doesn't wipe the alpha flag from my account when they actually do wake up again
16:23.58nevcairielotherwise, empty =p
16:24.08Gnarfozthat is the weirdest account name, nevcairiel
16:24.34nevcairielits my lan name including team prefix, leave me alone :(
16:24.41Gnarfozhehe
16:24.52Stanzillait's when you want to express that you are a tough guy IRL
16:25.10GnarfozI shouldn't talk, mine is obviously still 8tImER (but blizz uppercases everything, so it looks slightly less freakishly dumb)
16:25.24Gnarfozpre-wotlk players represent
16:25.32Gnarfozcurrent players only have WoWn
16:25.33StanzillaI still don't know what that means btw
16:25.43GnarfozI pasted my "warum 8tImER.txt" in here at least once before
16:25.45Gnarfoz;D
16:25.55Gnarfozshort version: I was 12 or so.
16:25.56Gnarfoz:P
16:26.06Stanzillayeah but WHAT DOES IT MEEEAN
16:26.18GnarfozI'll paste you the file when I'm home
16:26.22Stanzillahaha ok
16:26.35RessyDamn Canada Post. :(
16:26.55Gnarfozget busy, damnit http://i.imgur.com/ic9HQgW.png
16:28.09nevcairielGnarfoz: i dont remember how old I was when i picked the nick originally, a long time ago for sure
16:28.16nevcairielthe lan team tag just came later =p
16:28.43nevcairielno idea why i decided to name my wow account like that, its not like I actually used the name for any characters, that has always been nevcairiel for WoW
16:28.44Stanzillaprobably got mad at someone in pre school and wanted to punish them
16:28.48Megalonlol you and your xXxEr4z0r420xXx account names
16:29.32quiescenso.o
16:30.10quiescensmoo?
16:32.22Stanzillafriend of mine is still "$ch00lh4t0r@no aim" on steam
16:32.34nevcairielyou can change steam names, you know
16:32.34Stanzillacreated that when he was 12 too .D
16:32.40Stanzillayes but he keeps it
16:32.43Stanzillanostalgia or so
16:33.00Stanzillaohh the new dreamfall chapter is out
16:36.48Stanzillaafter researching mouse bungees and realizing that the good ones are 50€+, I now bought cable clips :<
16:37.12RessyThis is my morning:  https://twitter.com/RessyM/status/672448197478977536
16:38.53quiescenswhy would your mouse want a bungee
16:40.27nevcairieli got a package that was obviously opened once, but for some reason everything was still inside, maybe they didnt like what they found
16:40.50Stanzillawhat was it
16:41.10nevcairielsome blu-rays, forgot which ones
16:41.23Stanzillagina wild 1-6?
16:41.35nevcairieldont think they have those on blu-ray
16:42.06Stanzillatoo lazy to open a private browser window to investigate
16:43.09Gnarfozdon't they predate HD by a long shot
16:43.40nevcairielif they were filmed in analog etc, but who would care that much about some german porn movies
16:44.34Stanzillathat's why they were still in the package and not stolen?
16:44.37Megalonyou are clearly not a connoisseur
16:45.23pompyhttp://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/gaming/the-game-awards-twitch-youtube-stream-nintendo-geoff-keighley-live-a6759006.html
16:45.38pompyif it's "call of duty this, call of duty that" ... im turning it off!!!
16:45.45nevcairielprobably is
16:46.47GnarfozI'm not sure why you'd expect anything different
16:50.59GnarfozStanzilla: sb: how long were your ticket response times, then?
16:51.27StanzillaGnarfoz: http://vgy.me/Modipx.png
16:51.33quiescens42
16:52.11Gnarfoz15, hmm
16:54.06pompylol
16:54.28pompywell at least hopefully the 10 world premieres are cool.
16:54.40nevcairiel2 of them are cod
16:54.48winkGnarfoz: wow acc created in 2005, still not a dumb name :P
16:54.56nevcairiel3 others new yearly EA Sports titles
16:55.01winkGnarfoz: you have only yourself to blame! :P
16:55.03winknevcairiel: and you too!
16:55.16nevcairielYou call yourself wink!
16:55.56wink;)
16:56.19nevcairielnow where the hell is my food
16:56.23nevcairieli'm starting over here
16:56.59Stanzillawhat did you order
16:57.09nevcairielsome chinese duck
16:57.38winkwhat the duck
16:58.00quiescenshow do you know the duck was chinese?
17:00.58pompynevcairiel: i ate it all
17:04.58Megalonduckdevourer pompy
17:30.14Gnarfoznevcairiel: actually, he used to callhimself winkiller
17:30.30Gnarfozand I don't really see that as particularly better than the others  :P
17:31.14Gnarfozalso, I wasn't talking about dumb/not dumb, but about even having an account name vs. having WoW1 (because bnet merge)
17:51.49Stanzilla@KihraOfTemerity: Overwatch beta going down for a whole month? NOOOOO.
17:51.49Stanzillawot
17:52.47nevcairielits a beta, they are entitled to shut it down if they have the feedback they wanted, its not a free-to-play demo =p
17:53.03Stanzillanever said they could not
17:53.05Stanzillajust surprising
17:53.33nevcairielthey already said before that the beta would not run endlessly until launch
17:56.45Stanzillahttp://us.battle.net/overwatch/en/blog/19981654/overwatch-closed-beta-going-on-break-december-10-12-3-2015
17:58.15nevcairielimho they should kick everyone out of the beta and draw a fresh pot when it goes back on :D
17:58.37Stanzillayou just say that because yo uare not in
17:58.43nevcairielof course
17:58.55nevcairielbut it would be refreshing
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18:17.26winkstill pondering what's so exciting about betas
18:17.34winkespecially in persistent worlds
18:17.54winkespecially for people who are neither searching for an optimal levelling route nor doing real testing
18:19.04winkGnarfoz: be called, not call himself. not saying it's stupid either, just being fed up of explaining the non-offensive nature :P
18:23.42jleclanchehere's a beta that's actually more fun to be in
18:23.42jleclanchehttps://letsencrypt.org/2015/12/03/entering-public-beta.html
18:49.46Megalonencrypts jleclanche and throws away the keys
18:53.49Fiskermine keeps saying I don't have the nginx plugin
19:08.46Parnichttps://letsencrypt.readthedocs.org/en/latest/using.html the docs explain that nginx plugin is disabled by default because it's not ready
19:09.05Parnicmine is complaining about SSLv2 in whatever python crypto library they're using because ubuntu ships with sslv2 disabled in their openssl
19:09.49Executionerletsencrypt? got that while in closed beta
19:11.15Executionerwhile in topic, anyone knows if we can use this for things that are not webservers? like quassel, etc
19:12.03winkParnic: hm, yeah. py+ssl in ubuntu is horrible. but sometimes you can work around it with virtualenv + pyasn + cryptopgraphy and stuff.
19:12.19winkExecutioner: if it's a valid cert that usually works.
19:12.33Parnicwink: i don't know enough about python to do all that, so i'll just not use letsencrypt yet :P
19:13.18ParnicExecutioner: whatever you're validating against will need to respect letsencrypt's CA for the cert to be valid. part of the current effort seems to be getting specifically browser vendors to register their CA as trusted
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20:00.25Gnarfozuhm, it's already trusted in all relevant browsers thanks to the cross signature
20:02.02FiskerI'm gonna miss overwatch
20:02.40FiskerNo Parnic it says not installed
20:02.51FiskerAnd doesn't explain how to enable it
20:05.42nevcairielI just used the certonly mode because I honestly wouldn't trust this thing to modify my config, and that worked fine
20:05.55nevcairieljust missing a wildcard cert, so I had to list like 8 subdomains
20:05.57nevcairielbut hey
20:08.33FiskerGuess I'll have to do that as well then
20:08.35FiskerRip
20:09.10TorhalFisker: Rejoice in Parnic?
20:11.42FiskerGet your mind out of the gutter
20:17.33TorhalThat would be you projecting again, Fisker.
20:17.52FiskerNope
20:28.03Megalonprojects Fisker onto Torhal
20:39.18Torhalmisses Megalon.
20:41.22Ressyfinally submitted my Corsair RMA. >.>
20:41.40TorhalNow will you actually ship it?
20:42.26Stanzillastill have no response to my new ticket :<
20:42.46RessyTorhal: They send me something... o.O
20:43.00Ressyand I hope to GOD I don't have to go a few days without my computer.
20:43.15Ressycuz when it failed, it damaged the board or the CPU.
20:43.28Stanzillathey only send you the new one before you send in the old one when you give them your credit card number via phone
20:43.45Stanzillaand you have to pay postal fee for sending the broken shit in
20:44.04RessyThey said I should only have to pay for it if they're returning stuff to me that isn't broken.
20:44.07Stanzillatrying to talk them out of that because their replacement unit failed after a month, not going to pay that
20:44.28RessyCuz frankly, it failed after 7 months.
20:44.41Ressywhich is ridiculous.
20:44.42Stanzillahow are you supposed to get the money back that you paid for shipping it in?
20:44.56RessyDon't they send a shipping label?
20:44.58Ressymore RMAs do.
20:45.01Ressymost*
20:45.03Stanzillalike I said
20:45.06Stanzillayou have to send in first
20:45.31Ressyo.O
20:45.35Megalonsends in Stanzilla to RMA
20:45.36RessyI sent the form in.
20:45.42RessyWaiting on a response.
20:46.01Stanzillahuh? didn't you use their ticketing system?
20:46.16Stanzillathey told me to print out some label, put it on the box and send the broken piece in
20:46.18RessyYes.. But because there was damage to other pieces of my system due to their product's failure...
20:46.23Stanzillathen it gets looked at, if broken, they send a new one
20:46.25RessyI have to provide more info
20:46.29Stanzillaah ok
20:46.46Ressyie, pictures, and invoices for purchase.
20:46.56RessyBut.. They don't just replace the item.. which.. is annoying.
20:47.11RessyThey might end up giving me cash for my CPU, and it might not be enough to buy a replacement.
20:47.20RessyBecause prices went up.
20:47.26StanzillaI'm really annoyed that I have to pay the postal fees
20:47.32RessyI got my CPU for $100 less than what it's at now.
20:52.38Stanzilladon'
20:52.47Stanzillaand I noticed that the old one is still open, no idea why
21:19.25pompyhttps://messenger.yahoo.com
21:19.27pompyhaha
21:29.18Megaloncan't wait for the xhamster messenger
21:36.19PhixionI'm beta testing it already Megalon
21:48.24Megalonfleischgewordenes chromosomchaos
21:48.27Megalonbwhaha
22:37.56znfI'm /so/ fucked
22:38.05znfI wanted to go out with MarriedGirl on Saturday
22:38.11znfbut... I went out with KidGirl tonight
22:38.18znfand KidGirl wants to go out on Saturday, too
22:38.21znfWhat to do? :-|
22:38.30znfI'm /so/ fucked
22:38.59nevcairieltell her you cant go :p
22:44.19znfWho?!
22:44.26znfBecause they both want in the same place...
22:46.28pompyhaha
22:46.45znfDon't laugh. It's not /that/ funny
22:46.54nevcairielits actually quite funny
22:47.01znfI'm in real deep shit. I did NOT see that coming
22:47.13nevcairieljust dont go out with either if you're afraid =p
22:47.22znfI'm not technically afraid
22:47.27znfI just want to sleep with both.
22:47.30nevcairielwhoring around has its price
22:48.27znfIndeed it has
22:48.35znfBut I've gone from "no maam, no sex"
22:48.36znfto
22:48.43znf"fuck, who do I sleep with?!"
22:49.12znfThe fuck is wrong with me
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23:08.58znfGnarfoz, LETSENCRYPT IS FUCKIN' LIVE
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