IRC log for #wowace on 20151202

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00:02.35RessyGnarfoz: Legion?
00:05.30Gnarfozwhat else?
00:07.33Ressyaccounts are still bugged.
00:08.21Gnarfozyou don't say?
00:08.44Ressy:P
00:08.59Gnarfozthey're probably still trying to figure out the syntax of DELETE
00:09.01Gnarfoz^^
00:10.59StanzillaGnarfoz: he shit's complicated okay
00:11.15Stanzillacan't expect a company to have people that *just* know how to do that
00:18.16RessyMight be multiple bugs..
00:18.24RessyCuz they were saying it was 3+ ptr accounts.
00:18.28RessyAnd I've only got 2.
00:18.30Gnarfozthey were clearly wrong :p
00:18.40Gnarfozbut Lore can only say what he's been told
00:19.01RessyMVPs have been getting updates from Vrak... Who sits nearby the person who's fixing it..
00:19.04Gnarfozif it's at all PTR related, they could start by wiping those out, but that's apparently impossible? meh.
00:20.55Gnarfozwell, they said they're hoping to get something done this week, so we can just wait and come up with crazy reasons it's taking so long ^^
00:21.08Ressylol
00:21.27RessyOriginal fix would delete everyone's accounts altogether. >.>
00:21.45Gnarfozlike I suggested
00:21.47Semlar2ruthless
00:21.55RessySecond fix.... Deletes everyone's accounts?
00:22.06Gnarfozwhy would they care about PTR licences? just nuke em
00:23.50znfday 7
00:24.00znfI still can't figure out why the fuck is my windows crashing
00:24.05StanzillaI want to see a video of someone trying this https://scontent-frt3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t31.0-8/12307481_409145435946263_5437294917858310754_o.jpg
00:24.37znfCocor Spa Hotel
00:24.37znfYou just got a 3-star review
00:24.42znfARE YOU FUCKIN' KIDDING ME?
00:24.47znf3 star review, no reason
00:24.51znfon a venue that's been closed since September
00:24.52znf...!??
00:25.12StanzillaI would have given that 1 star
00:25.14Stanzillacant even check in
00:25.15Stanzilladuh
00:25.20znflol
00:25.45znfTorhal,
00:26.17Torhalznf: ?
00:26.44znfTorhal, KANGER HAS NEW KITS
00:27.01StanzillaYELLINGF ON THE INTERNET
00:27.16znfhttps://www.fasttech.com/products/3024/10014058/3693503
00:27.18znfI'm tempted.
00:27.19Torhalznf: Neat?
00:27.24TorhalAlso, lolfasttech
00:27.34znfThere's no other place for me to order from
00:27.38TorhalWow.
00:27.46znfShipping from US is way too expensive
00:27.48TorhalThey're King of Knockoffs :/
00:27.57znfthe "Authentic" ones are real :-/
00:28.11znfthere's also "replica" or "in the style of" items
00:28.20znfThose are clearly labeled knockoffs
00:28.26TorhalSo why "Authentic" and not authentic. :D
00:28.32znfbecause I can't spell
00:28.38Torhalo.O
00:28.52znfI've no idea what you're saying
00:29.16znfthing is, I've no idea about the new coils
00:29.21znfthey came out with new SSOCC thingies
00:29.32znfthey're supposed to be working in the old subox mini, too
00:29.40znfbut I still have shitloads of old OCC coils
00:29.52znfI'm also tempted to buy one of this https://www.fasttech.com/products/3024/10014058/3715800
00:30.14znfsometimes I can't be arsed to bring my boxmod with me, heavy as fuck
00:38.45znfI'm still amazed that I have the overwatch beta!
00:39.58znfis spying Gnarfoz
02:47.33pompyhttps://www.facebook.com/flashplatform/photos/a.285538000633.323325.14043570633/10156294693745634/?type=3
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03:52.23Fiskerhey Ressy
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10:23.02nevcairielso I updated to chrome 47 this morning, and ever since it feels like chrome is starting up significantly slower, like it takes a noticeable time from clicking the icon to the window showing, while previously it was instant
10:28.06nevcairielapparently thats because it previously used to run in the background all the time for its notification icon, which google now killed
10:29.41Gnarfozthey did?
10:29.51Gnarfozwell, mine always runs in the background because of the hangouts extension
10:30.40quiescensnerf Gnarfoz
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10:54.16Megalonnerfoz
11:04.06Gnarfoznerf Joomla
11:05.08znfnah, fuck joomla all together
11:05.30Megalonyes, yes, let the hate flow through you
11:05.49Megalonputs znf in a minecart and pushes it down the tracks
11:08.07Gnarfozupdated some plugin
11:08.12Gnarfoznow the site doesn't work anymore
11:08.14Gnarfoz:D
11:08.23Gnarfozand of course, it doesn't log anything
11:09.39znfI have to work
11:09.42znfI'm too lazy to work :-(
11:12.06Megalon8)
11:16.48nevcairielznf: you can quit
11:17.15znfI need to stuff my food-pipe
11:17.30Megalonyou are romanian
11:17.41Megalongrab 4-5 girls and let them do camshows
11:17.51Megaloni mean wtf, SEIZE THE OPPORTUNITIES
11:28.18nevcairieli found an awesome way to have fun on kazzak
11:28.54nevcairielwait until you have mark of kazzak, pop healing ring and other cooldowns, and use tranquility, it'll do so much damage that all the people around you will simply die
11:32.36Gnarfozsomeone tell me what would lead php to ignore my "error_log" configuration directive
11:36.00Megalonit holds a personal grudge against you? :<
11:36.38sbGnarfoz: wrong config?
11:36.48sb(cli, cgi, fpm)
11:42.21quiescenswoek woek
11:52.55Gnarfozsb: no idea, I replaced it with a [PATH=/blah] section instead of [HOST=], that at least works
11:53.06Gnarfozwell no. it shows up in phpinfo that way, but it still doesn't actually log anything :P
11:53.17Gnarfozthere's stuff in PHP-FPM's log, though
11:54.09Gnarfozand some strace shenanigans point to it being busy doing something with lessphp at the time it segfaults, writing "zend_mm_heap corrutped" to stderr
11:56.56quiescens\o/
11:58.01quiescensdid you at some previous point know where the errors were logged?
12:01.39nevcairielphp error logging has always been a bit magic
12:02.31sbs/error logging//
12:02.37nevcairielthat too
12:03.58Megalonwraps nev in 3 layers of magic quotes
12:21.50znfGnarfoz, your joomla sucks
12:23.34Gnarfozznf: so does every Joomla
12:23.41znfyes
12:23.45znfswitch to wordpress!
12:23.50Gnarfozbecause WP is so much better, lol
12:23.59Gnarfoz(and clearly that's not a valid answer, anyway)
12:24.00Megaloncholera sucks
12:24.04Megalonbetter get the pest!
12:24.28znfyes
12:25.08znfI hate this WHMCS stupid shit system
12:29.36Gnarfoznone of the suggestions work
12:30.17Gnarfozzend.gc_enable=0, USE_ZEND_ALLOC=0, output_buffering++... blah
12:30.24Gnarfozthis shit is just... shitty
12:34.08znfrm -rf *.php
12:34.58Gnarfozthat does seem like a valid solution
12:35.23sbwhich doesnt work
12:36.33sbbecause it doesnt delete anything in subdirectories
12:37.15quiescensunless the subdirectory has a .php extension o.o
12:37.16sbfind . -name *.php -exec rm -f {} \
12:37.47sbalso, add -type d
12:37.50sberrr f
12:42.03Gnarfozno, I want those .php directories gone, too
12:43.04Gnarfozfutex(0x39dff8fe80, FUTEX_WAIT_PRIVATE, 2, NULL
12:43.09Gnarfoz? >_>
12:45.48Stanzillaworst thing about tweaking hardware in your pc is that you have to turn your pc off
12:45.50Stanzilla:(
12:48.14quiescensbai stanzilla?
12:48.22Stanzillayes
12:48.58quiescensbai o/
12:57.27Megalondon't rip out your gfx card and break the pcb
12:58.00GnarfozStanzilla: only cowards turn it off intentionally
12:58.21Gnarfozif it turns off while you're working, ok, but doing that ahead of time... meh! :D
12:58.53Megalon:D
12:59.17Megalonreal men work on running systems!
13:00.03GnarfozI know I do
13:00.20Gnarfoztook out and cleaned most of the fans without turning it off recently
13:00.42Megalonlol fans, coward
13:01.02Megalonthat's like "i cleaned the windwhield while the car was running" :<
13:01.42Gnarfozit's more like "I cleaned the turbocharger while the engine was running" :p
13:07.55Megalonmore like the AC fans
13:11.08GnarfozAC doesn't have fans
13:11.49StanzillaI actually switched out fans
13:47.07Gnarfozhttp://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00NLYMYCY with... what kind of headphone amp? :D
13:52.37Megaloninnenpolitischem Kopfhörerverstärker
13:52.51Megaloneven the amp is political now??
14:00.01Gnarfozit is literally a "schwarzer Block"
14:00.08Gnarfozperhaps that's why
14:00.19Megalon:D
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14:13.51winklol
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14:46.31Gnarfozseriously, the questions I get from coworkers who should be at least vaguely knowledgeable on the respective topics...
14:46.48znfSome client emailed me this:
14:46.53znf(translated)
14:47.06znf"We urgently need to implement CRM on the server domain.tld"
14:47.12znf"crm.domain.tld"
14:47.16znf"52.30.0.165"
14:47.21znf"please confirm the modifications"
14:48.12znfWhat do you make of that? :P
14:53.16GnarfozI'd go home or something
14:53.35Gnarfozmount error(13): Permission denied
14:53.36Gnarfoz:|
14:53.41GnarfozI hate my job some  times
14:54.06Arrow|workznf: they want the dns updated?
14:54.19znfArrow|work, yeah, we clarified that
14:54.35znfbut first I thought they needed a crm installed
14:54.36znfor some shit
14:55.05Arrow|worki go by principal of you give me basic info im going to assume you want something basic
14:55.25Gnarfoz*principle
14:55.43GnarfozI am amazed by your powers of deduction, though
14:55.45znfI'm assuming that this specific client is extremely retarded
14:55.57znfAnd he kept asking us for a reboot for his VM
14:56.01GnarfozI would not have guessed this was about DNS from that little info ^^
14:56.35znfbecause they run a wordpress on it with no optimization and every morning when they sent their newsletter, it run out of memory and it started killing apache/mysql
14:57.03Gnarfozand you recommended WP to me earlier...? :P
14:57.23znfI recommend WP because I know what I'm doing with it
14:57.51znfNot like another tard client which set php fpm's maximum processes to 1000
14:57.56znfand was wondering why his website was down
15:04.40Arrow|workthey send a domain name and an IP address, thats why i assumed dns update
15:06.00sbsame
15:06.56Arrow|workpeople at work do that to me
15:12.47Fiskermorning Repo
15:12.49Fiskerdamnit
15:12.51Fiskermorning Ressy
15:12.54Fiskerno mornings for Repo
15:13.45Ressymorning
15:22.11Megalonhey yo
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16:41.31znfHmmm
16:41.38znf550GB samsung evo 850
16:41.39znffor 150€
16:41.40znfO.o
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17:32.59Gnarfozthat's... not particularly cheap?
17:33.16Gnarfozok it's 2€ cheaper than the cheapest on geizhals :\
17:46.29TimmehI didn't break the internets on purpose :-(
17:57.10Fiskerhttps://store.google.com/product/nexus_6p_special_edition hot Stanzilla
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20:20.16Stanzillaso while installing my new fans today, my h100 pump died again
20:20.22Stanzillano idea how and why but it happened
20:20.40TorhalBlame znf.
20:21.12znfWhat's a h100 pump?
20:21.17Ressycpu cooler.
20:21.21Ressymine died in August.
20:21.26RessyI still need to RMA it. >.<
20:21.41Stanzillamine is the one I got back from RMA
20:21.50Ressyouch
20:23.04nevcairieli never trusted those things, air for life!
20:23.06Stanzillaback to stock cooler it is
20:23.16RessyI'm on stock right now... But its loud. >.<
20:23.27Ressyand it doesn't bring down temps so much.
20:23.40Stanzillayeah
20:23.53nevcairielunless you want to OC, temps are not that relevant though
20:24.04RessyMy system oc's itself.
20:24.09nevcairielas long as it doesnt throttle, but modern CPUs are usually too efficient for that
20:24.15RessyTrying to figure out where in the firmware where the hell to turn it off. lmao
20:24.19Ressyerr, bios
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20:30.50Gnarfoz*UEFI
20:31.01Gnarfozget with the times, woman!
20:31.01Gnarfoz:D
20:31.57Gnarfozhow can you not know where to turn it off, didn't you turn it on in the first place? :D
20:32.34Gnarfozalso, wanna bet on beta? T_T
20:32.36Timmehthe uefi bios firmware interface*
20:32.38Timmehgod
20:32.40Timmehget it right!
20:32.47RessyGnarfoz: Nada. Its automatic.
20:32.49Stanzillaif I look at the rape they did to the CDN today...
20:32.56Stanzillathat guy..
20:32.59StanzillaI dont know
20:33.19GnarfozRessy: I don't know of a mainboard under the sun that has that stuff turned on out of the box
20:33.35nevcairielsome have a hardware switch to turn it on :D
20:33.47Gnarfozsure, but you still need to press it
20:34.04Gnarfozsince the process usually runs once to determine a working set of parameters and then keeps those
20:34.13Timmehit may be some "profile" you acn select
20:34.26Timmehand maybe it's even alled "performance" instead of something related to overclocking
20:34.33Timmehcalled*
20:34.36GnarfozTimmeh: UEFI already stands for blah Firmware Interface
20:34.49TimmehGnarfoz: I wasn't being entirely serious
20:34.54Gnarfozin here?
20:34.55Gnarfozunthinkable
20:34.57Gnarfoz:D
20:36.29Ressyhttps://www.asus.com/ca-en/Motherboards/MAXIMUS_VII_HERO/
20:36.43RessyIts gotta be there somewhere.. Just gotta find it. :P
20:36.51Gnarfozshould be rather obvious
20:36.58Gnarfozbut ok, obvious is relative
20:37.05Ressy:P
20:37.18RessyI also need some time to just sit down and look through the hundreds of options. lol
20:38.12Stanzillaintel speedstep or so?
20:38.27Stanzillamine is literally called OC in the uefi I think
20:39.00Gnarfozspeedstep is power saving
20:39.22Gnarfozwhy is that site so god awful slow
20:39.29Ressylol
20:39.41Timmehbecause you didn't overclock your internet
20:40.41Torhaloverclocks Timmeh.
20:41.31Gnarfozeither press F11 after entering UEFI, or click "EZ Tuning Wizard"
20:41.42Timmeh:O
20:42.10Timmehmy clock speed is fine by default, thankyouverymuch :-(
20:42.13Gnarfozor, if you've set it to advanced mode, go to Extreme Tweaker menu and make sure "Ai Overclock Tuner" is set to manual or XMP
20:42.22Gnarfoz(if you have XMP memory, that is)
20:44.11Gnarfozat least that seems to make sense according to chapter 3.2.1 to 3.5 of the manual http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/LGA1150/MAXIMUS-VII-HERO/E9192_Maximus_Vii_Hero.pdf
20:45.08Gnarfoznow that that's out of the way... RMA your damn cooler. :P
20:51.33TorhalRessy won't have time to work on ARL or Collectinator if she does that, Gnarfoz.
20:52.33Gnarfozthey're obsolete anyway
20:52.35Gnarfoz:O
20:52.40Gnarfozreplaced by cats
20:53.11RessyRessy's been silly busy
20:53.22Ressyand actually I have been working on Collectinator
21:04.33Stanzillaalpha 20773
21:07.18nevcairieldid they finally push it
21:08.13Stanzillato the cdn, yes
21:26.46MysticalOSnot to launcher yet
21:26.47MysticalOS:\
21:26.55MysticalOSby time they finally push this crap it'll be raid time
21:28.07StanzillaVoid Bolt: Sends a bolt of pure void energy at the enemy, causing (400% of Spell power) Shadow damage and extending the duration of Shadow Word: Pain and Vampiric Touch by 3 sec.
21:28.07Stanzilla<PROTECTED>
21:28.08Stanzillalol
21:28.26MysticalOSso dot it then spam bolts to keep them going?
21:28.33Stanzillayes
21:28.49MysticalOSthe new old school shadowbolt lock!
21:30.43znfwait what
21:30.44znf:o
21:30.45znfholy fuck
21:30.48znfthat sounds amazing :D
21:30.52nevcairielwhy does mmo-c suck at datamining lately anyway
21:30.57nevcairielwowhead is much faster and better
21:31.23znfdunno
21:31.27znfchaud__, why do you guys suck latley?
21:32.02MysticalOSwowhead had a heads up of exact moment it was being pushed
21:32.20StanzillaMysticalOS: now to launcher
21:32.29nevcairielits not just today
21:32.36nevcairielthe initial dump thjey were much ahead as well
21:34.12MysticalOSI'm just ready to test the mac binaries running metal. see just how it is. FYI i'm expecting it to be unimpressive. But I want to see how unimpressive!
21:34.27znfso Mac gets Metal
21:34.31znfbut we don't get DX12? :-(
21:34.36Stanzillawe do, chill
21:34.51nevcairielMac should be happy to not get the overwatch treatment
21:35.03MysticalOSmacs getting metal because apple abandoned opengl, it's not like they have a choice, opengl in os x is 5 years out of date and now that apple has metal, we know for certain they won't update opengl again
21:35.17MysticalOSthat's also apples fault
21:35.31MysticalOSthey couldn't do overwatch because the opengl in os x is too out of date, and metal is still incomplete
21:35.33nevcairielApple doesnt care about gaming, so why should companies
21:35.58MysticalOShell metal doesn't even support geometry shaders or tessellation
21:36.13MysticalOSit's fortunate wow is a 11 year old game
21:36.16nevcairielits a light-weight mobile api, it cant replace desktop
21:36.21Stanzillaif they didnt care abotu gamign they would not have made metal :D
21:36.28Stanzillathey just dont care about anyone else in gaming
21:36.45MysticalOSthey made metal for ios. the fact they ported it to OS X was just so they could unify their platform
21:36.53nevcairielmetal was build for iOS, putting it on osx is just an afterthought
21:37.41MysticalOSi'm with tia in the thought that I wouldn't be shocked at all if they don't combine the OSes soon, and switch macs to arm, effectively killing the last of them being anything more than niche work machines.
21:39.24MysticalOSit'll still be interesting to see how metal wow fairs. if it removes driver overhead, it may see some performance gains over opengl2 wow. although it'll still run inferior to directx11 and definitely inferior to directx12 when it comes
21:40.47MysticalOShow does elvine have it downloading on launcher already? my launcher doesn't even see seed yet :\
21:41.25TorhalThe Horde is pretty metal, MysticalOS.
21:42.27MysticalOSi wonder if this build will disable addons yet
21:44.29StanzillaMysticalOS: cook said they are not doign that
21:46.03MysticalOSapple also said they'd never make a phablet or a pencil
21:47.58TorhalThey did it anyway because they'll kill the market for sharpeners.
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22:34.13nevcairielStanzilla: did you hear anything when the next nvidia feature driver is going to be released?
22:34.21Stanzillanop
22:34.53nevcairieli was hoping for early december, but they just pushed a meaningless game ready driver, so maybe not this soon
22:46.01znffeature driver?
22:46.03znfwhat's that?
22:47.11nevcairiela new driver with new features
22:47.16nevcairielusually a new driver branch =p
22:51.12Stanzillanext up is fermi dx12 anyway no?
22:54.35Gnarfozpure genius https://twitter.com/Narkoseonkel/status/672000888626667520
23:03.57MysticalOSwell, mac binary is useless still. doesn't support video cards with more than 4 gigs of vram, asserts out on launch
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23:07.29Stanzillaguess no apple mac has that anyway? :D
23:13.58GnarfozRessy: the bell tolls: +Blizzard_TradeSkillRecipeList.xml
23:14.29StanzillaRIP curse points
23:16.09RessyAlready knew about that.
23:16.27RessyBut I'm betting their implementation sucks.
23:16.32Ressyso ARL might still be useful
23:19.11Gnarfozwell, you can check it out now
23:19.46Gnarfozalso they have more access than addon authors, so they're technically capable of creating a better solution
23:19.53Gnarfozlet's see if they do ;D
23:20.09Gnarfoz(or if they just create speedy C_xyz APIs that we then get to use)
23:20.18Gnarfozanyway, you in Ressy? new wave of flags, apparently
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23:21.53Stanzillayou dont have to download 8793834 addons for it to work, so it is better by default :D
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23:24.13MysticalOSgot it working. opengl3 is hosed but metal works with 6 gigs
23:24.43MysticalOSand it looks like under metal MSAA is back, and nvidia HBAO is supported
23:24.59MysticalOScan't test performance until realms..
23:25.51Gnarfozthat's nice for... you, I guess
23:26.01Gnarfozor you and the other Mac user
23:26.03Gnarfoz:D
23:36.54RessyGnarfoz: Looks like I'm still bugged.
23:37.00RessyOtherwise, I would have been flagged day 1
23:37.01StanzillaGnarfoz: did you get in?
23:38.38GnarfozRessy: same, I don't see why I wouldn't have been in wave 1 day 1 as with everything else
23:38.45GnarfozStanzilla: no, the didn't fix anything
23:38.50Gnarfozstill useless PTRs  :P
23:38.58RessyI'm on a F&F list for one of the server engineers, as well as the MVP list.
23:39.08Gnarfozyou keep repeating that
23:39.09Gnarfoz:D
23:39.17Ressyoh. >.<
23:39.25RessyMy memory these days is horribad
23:39.32RessySorry :\
23:39.34Gnarfozmy alpha access these days is horribad
23:39.59Stanzillaman Ressy really thinks she is important!
23:40.00Gnarfozwell, not much I can do about it, except have CS remove the PTRs
23:40.18GnarfozStanzilla: s/important/valuable/! most valuable even ;)
23:40.20RessyRessy's about to fall over from being so tired.
23:41.47RessyLife is crazy and stressful..
23:47.38ajmitchwonders how many F&F invites employees can use
23:47.44Stanzillaso this build has new content
23:47.51Stanzillahttp://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/395022-legion-alpha-known-issues-updated-12-2-2015/
23:47.58Stanzillato play, that is
23:48.18Gnarfozajmitch: they supply lists, but usually Blizz picks the first X of those, to their liking
23:48.40ajmitchGnarfoz: makes sense, I know my friend submitted a few names
23:49.32ajmitchbut it looks like I have another 'PTR' listed under my account today, so I'll see when I get home
23:49.53Gnarfozif it wasn't there before, then you're in
23:50.18StanzillaMysticalOS: http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/395025-mac-graphics-api-testing-metal/
23:50.23MysticalOSreally hope we can enter some old areas for comparison
23:50.32Gnarfozit annoys me a lot more that I'm not in because of dumb technical issues on their part
23:50.35Gnarfozvs. just not being chosen
23:50.48ajmitchyes, that would be frustrating
23:53.55MysticalOSwell those known issues pretty much sp ell out we have more areas
23:54.34Stanzillathe known issues thread did that before too
23:54.41MysticalOSi just want to run around stormwind or draenor for comparitive performance analysys

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