IRC log for #wowace on 20151109

00:21.15StanzillaHELLO
01:01.30znfEHLO Stanzilla.wowace.com
01:21.20znfMaybe I should stop working at these hours.
01:26.23StanzillaFisker: do you have your 6p yet?
02:28.03Gnarfozhe does
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03:16.03Stanzillaznf: http://www.mobipicker.com/20000mah-xiaomi-power-bank-with-qc-2-0-launched-for-24/
03:58.42quiescenso.o
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04:39.38FiskerYes Stanzilla
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09:30.59Gnarfozugh, it's yew tree time again
09:31.06Gnarfozhorrible sticky red berries all over
09:32.37hasteFisker: US order?
09:33.14hastestill can't pre-order in Norway :V
09:46.28nevcairieldid you have to look up yew right there Gnarfoz
09:46.30nevcairielbecause i sure had
09:48.39Phixionhad to
09:51.16StanzillaFisker: how is it so far?
09:51.38Gnarfoznevcairiel: I had to look up which tree those annoying buggers are from, the translation was merely hovering over the "English" link on the german WP page ^^
10:24.35PhixionStanzilla: what tabvlet should I get
10:24.45Phixionlooking at n9
10:24.51Phixionnot sure tho
10:24.52nevcairielsfp4
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10:25.15nevcairieli have a n9, and it works nicely
10:39.23StanzillaPhixion: how urgent do you need one and which OS do you want
10:40.12Megalon:7
10:46.36znfYou can always wait for the next best thing
10:53.48Stanzillawell we havent had a M nexus tablet this year
10:54.02nevcairieln9 is a M tablet now =p
10:54.40Stanzillayeah well
10:55.41znfwonder how the hell to use google cloud storage
11:02.37PhixionStanzilla: 5.x +
11:02.52Phixion9+ inch ~350eur
11:03.05Stanzillan9 then, I guess
11:03.08Phixionactually, might just go for n9
11:03.10Phixionyeah
11:07.52Phixionordered
11:08.47znfoh, yay https://storage.googleapis.com/i_haz_a_bucket/RGuueBM.gif
11:11.15Gnarfozwhy did you break that gif
11:12.53znfI found it like that
11:53.17Phixion:s
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13:01.41Stanzillahttp://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/19941176/legion-class-preview-series-priest-11-9-2015
13:03.46Stanzillaznf
13:03.53znf:o
13:04.01Megalonyea znf, tell us how you hate every single word on that page
13:04.09Megaloni wanna feel the hate flow through you
13:04.32Megaloni even got you some razorblades to get you going
13:05.33Stanzillathat sounds mighty cool
13:05.49winkthat text reads a bit clerical
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13:08.50znfwho fucked up the aspect ratio on the pics?
13:09.05nevcairielthe pics themself are fine
13:09.12nevcairielthe website screws them
13:10.50znfStanzilla, so no more permanent shadowform? :o am I reading that right?
13:11.11nevcairielyou are wrong
13:11.13nevcairielwell kinda
13:11.17nevcairielyou have permanent shadow form
13:11.22nevcairielunless you transform it into void form
13:11.33Stanzillaznf: shadowform is what you are normally in
13:11.37znfright, I missed that
13:11.39Stanzillawhen you reach 100% insanity you go void form
13:11.43Stanzillaafter that back to shadow
13:12.09znfUh! UH!
13:12.16znfBack to ACTUAL VAMPIRIC TOUCH!
13:14.25znfLet the power of the void flow through you, instantly generating 100 Insanity.
13:14.35znfthat shouldn't be a talent :P
13:14.36Stanzillaburst cd :)
13:14.39Stanzillait is
13:14.43Stanzillal2read
13:15.00znfI said "it shouldn't"
13:15.02nevcairielStanzilla: l2read
13:15.06Stanzilla:3
13:15.07nevcairiel:D
13:15.26Megalonno need to deepthroat, Stanzilla
13:15.36nevcairieland you dont know the alternatives to that znf, so maybe those are also good
13:15.52znfthat is, if blizzard changed significantly :P
13:16.17znfbah, this preview is not enough!
13:16.22znfDo we still have DP? :-?
13:16.25Megalonthe other talents make you lie down, roll and try not to cry but cry anyway
13:16.26Megalon:(
13:16.39znfMegalon, we're used to it by now
13:27.54Stanzillano DP
13:28.07Stanzilladiseases dont fit the theme
13:28.09Stanzilla*ew
13:29.36nevcairielbut otherwise still dot heavy
13:29.53Stanzillayes
13:30.59znfsounds weird to only have 2 dots :o
13:31.01znfbut fun!
13:31.10znfalso, that haste thingie in voidform sounds yummy
13:31.12Stanzillatalents..
13:31.52nevcairielthats one of their overall strategies, base rotation a bit simpler, but if you want 100.5% out of your class, you can pick more active spells in talents
13:42.33Stanzillalets hope they balance that right though
13:42.37Stanzillathat active gets more dps
13:43.15znfI hope that gets only 0.5% more
13:43.16znfis lazy
13:43.41Stanzillayeah something along those lines would be appropriate
13:43.51Stanzillamaybe 5%
13:43.55znfthat's too much
13:43.57znf1%, tops
13:44.01znfI'm willing to part with 1%
13:45.47znfhttps://i.imgur.com/ShLybZ8.jpg lol @ this
13:49.40znfStanzilla, wonder if you can cheese the void form thingie
13:49.54znflike, lose void form, keep haste buff
13:49.54Stanzillaas in?
13:50.01znfpop Oblivion, keep the haste rolling?
13:50.01Stanzilla..
13:50.28Stanzillaprobably not worth it
13:50.35znfI mean, I wonder if that will be an actual gameplay
13:50.49Stanzillano
13:55.40nevcairieldunno, it might be, since the haste is meant for you to be able to cast things faster and generate more insanity, so you can potentially keep it longer
13:57.02Stanzillabut oyu lose void form uptime that way?
13:57.17nevcairielwhy
13:58.54Stanzillamaybe I undestood wrong
13:59.50Stanzilla100 sanity => voidform
14:00.02Stanzillayou cancel, keep the haste buff and 100 sanity and trigger voidform again
14:00.05Stanzillawhat use is that?
14:00.21nevcairieli dont think he wanted to cancel
14:00.26nevcairielbut you keep the haste when void expires
14:00.36nevcairielso wait for void to pop, when it expires, use oblivion
14:00.42nevcairielenter second void with full hast ebuff still up
14:00.49Stanzillayes that for sure
14:00.54Stanzillathats not what znf meant thoguh no?
14:01.01nevcairielwhy would he cancel the form
14:01.03nevcairielthats just weird
14:01.04nevcairiel:D
14:01.05Stanzillayes
14:01.10Stanzillathats what I'm saying :D
14:01.12nevcairiel(if yo ueven can)
14:01.24Megalon<@nevcairiel> thats just weird
14:01.27Megalonznf in a nutshell
14:01.46znfI never said Cancel
14:01.52znfI said repop it
14:02.06znfExactly what nev said
14:02.07Stanzillawhats your plan then
14:02.08Stanzillayeah ok
14:02.15Stanzillathat is like.. the concept of the talent
14:02.28znfIt also serves as an opener
14:02.33Stanzillayes
14:02.34nevcairielyou might still want to pop the talent during opening burst though, with hero and pre-pot
14:02.34Stanzillafinally
14:02.42znfOr maybe you save it for burst pass
14:02.46znfPhasd
14:03.10znfThe question is, will it keep the uff rolling (as in, adding to it)?
14:03.13nevcairieli wonder what the new druid single target buff is going to do
14:03.18nevcairielresto druid, that is
14:03.41Megalongive the target +2/+2 and taunt
14:03.46Gnarfoznevcairiel: spoilers: nothing! :D
14:03.47Stanzillalets hope they dont do another warlockbuff/tricks thingy
14:04.41nevcairieli dont know, those things arent too bad
14:04.54nevcairielquite interesting if a healer is handing those out
14:04.55Stanzillathe meta around them is
14:05.03Stanzillaremember power infusion
14:05.14Stanzillait was 24/7 begging and people being emo if they did not get it
14:05.25nevcairielpeople will always be emo
14:05.44Stanzillacan be avoided if there is no such personal external cd
14:06.04Gnarfozor if you don't raid with idiots
14:06.22nevcairielapparently thats unavoidable in mythic progression guilds :P
14:06.27Gnarfozyeah I know
14:06.30Gnarfozbtdt
14:07.50StanzillaI dont say it's idiotic
14:07.51Stanzillabut ok
14:07.55Stanzilla*Üwouldnot
14:07.59StanzillaSPELLING TODAY
14:08.00Stanzillareal hard
14:08.41nevcairieli would still enjoy having such a buff as the resto druid handing it out, i like having the power to start drama!
14:08.50Stanzillait's actually positive if everyone wants to do his max
14:09.16Gnarfozof course
14:09.21nevcairielthats not really the point though
14:09.26Stanzillahttp://www.computerbase.de/downloads/treiber/grafikkarten/nvidia-geforce-treiber/ Nvidia GeForce-Treiber 358.91 WHQL Deutsch
14:09.28nevcairielsay a buff gives you 10% more damage overall
14:09.29Gnarfozbut the entitlement is so bad :D
14:09.37Megaloni want a cd where my buff target deals -10% dmg and I do +30%
14:09.38Megalon8)
14:09.40nevcairielthen you should just give it to the strongest dpser
14:09.49Stanzillaless aryan version: http://www.forum-3dcenter.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=568313
14:09.50nevcairielno discussion required
14:09.54Gnarfozbut then the weak ones will clamor "how can we compete if we never get the buff"
14:09.58Gnarfozetc etc
14:10.17nevcairieleasy enough to calc out =p
14:11.04Gnarfozthey'll show their own weird twisted math to support their ideas
14:11.04Gnarfozetc
14:11.07GnarfozBTDT
14:11.42nevcairielgive it to them once, show how they are still behind, stop listening to them ever =P
14:12.12Gnarfozclearly, piling percent-based increases onto one person that's already ahead is the sane choice
14:12.21Gnarfozbut sanity is not at the forefront of those discussions, usually
14:12.44GnarfozStanzilla: now you almost made me download that at work
14:13.00Gnarfoztell me when they put out a version that increases Overwatch performance by 100%
14:13.36Stanzillais it that bad?
14:15.10quiescensnerf gnarfoz
14:15.18Phixionnerfoz
14:15.24Phixion\o/
14:15.45Megalontell me when it comes with the overwatch beta
14:15.48GnarfozStanzilla: I'd rather say it's that good
14:16.01Gnarfozi.e. it's modern enough to really use my GPU
14:16.11Stanzillathats nice
14:16.38Gnarfozindeed, but I'd like to get by without raising the clock by 50 MHz and increasing the temp limit to 85 °C :D
14:16.46Gnarfoz...for "epic" settings, that is
14:17.19Gnarfozsadly, almost none of the settings have any descriptions, so who knows what the hell they actually affect
14:17.46Gnarfozand some have fuzzy values like "auto" :D
14:18.54StanzillaI know the graphic settings
14:18.56quiescenschange them at random
14:18.58Stanzillait's all I ever got to see!
14:20.00quiescenswhy?
14:20.30Stanzillano beta inv
14:20.38Phixion:|
14:21.01quiescens):
14:21.05quiescensgives Stanzilla a cookie
14:23.15nevcairieleh this is silly, why isnt this frame intercepting mouse clicks when i tell it to
14:23.28nevcairielusually you have the other way around, some random  frame that intercepts click when you dont want it to =P
14:23.47quiescensits trying reverse psychology
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14:26.31Gnarfozit's become self-aware
14:26.52Gnarfozalthough if someone managed to do that in an addon, my bet would be on foxlit
14:28.21quiescenso.o
14:29.38Megalonyou think quiescens will become self-aware too some day?
14:31.25quiescens):
14:32.06Gnarfozpretty much out of the question
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14:38.34Stanzillahttps://googleblog.blogspot.com/2015/11/tensorflow-smarter-machine-learning-for.html?m=1
14:39.53Megalonwhat would it learn if we only fed it what znf and Fisker say?
14:40.10nevcairielsuicide
14:41.35Megalonwow
14:42.02Megalonso it would learn selfpity, depression and selfhate from znf
14:42.06Megalonand insanity from Fisker
14:42.28znfExcuse me
14:42.35Megalonprincess
14:42.38znfI'm the shadow priest here
14:42.45znfI do insanity
14:43.28Megalonok, guess that only leaves the heys to be learned from our dansk minion
14:43.33Ressymornin
14:55.12Phixiono/ Ressy
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18:04.34nevcairielso Stanzilla is th2 coming tomorrow or what
18:05.58Stanzillaprobably
18:06.07Stanzillathe xbox release is tomorrow and it's the same build
18:06.29Stanzillathere is some talk that it is not ready and has been moved to december though
18:07.15Megalonthe happening 2?
18:08.28Stanzillathey've been recompiling the same build for the third time now, always with more small fixes
18:08.42Stanzillaso chances are not bad
18:23.27Stanzillanevcairiel: http://winfuture.de/news,89754.html looks like mobile got delayed too
18:23.33Stanzillaso might as well be the case for desktop
18:23.49nevcairielwho knows
18:41.11Stanzillatheir responses to that kind of stuff is shitty anyways
18:41.50Stanzillafor example everything is already prepped for release and the dev kits are already up on the servers
18:41.54Stanzilla"no news to talk about"
18:44.53Gnarfozoh, nv actually said they'd do an Overwatch-ready driver, apparently http://www.computerbase.de/2015-11/nvidia-game-ready-treiber-spiele/
18:45.35chosii need an overwatch ready battle.net account first!
18:45.36chosiffs
18:45.36Gnarfozaaaand BDA still crashes when updating nvidia drivers
18:46.06nevcairielGnarfoz: for release of the game? =P
19:01.30Gnarfoznevcairiel: that news says 2015, dunno
19:02.05nevcairielright now the beta pool is still extremely small for overwatch
19:02.15nevcairielnot sure if blizzard cares for small-scale betas
19:02.24nevcairiels/blizzard/nvidia/
19:04.02GnarfozI have no idea how that list came to be
19:07.01Gnarfozbut yeah, the pool can't be big
19:07.12Gnarfoz83000 games over 7 days means just 1000 games per player or so
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19:35.29Megalon1000 games per player?
19:36.59Megalonthat's a lot of overwatch in 7 days for each player
19:39.58Gnarfozwell, 12 players per game
19:40.05Gnarfozacross 7 days
19:40.15Gnarfozyou figure out how many players that means
19:43.18Megalon1000 games per player over 7 days
19:43.38Megalonso a week has 10080 minutes
19:43.47Megalonso i guess a game only takes 1-2 minutes? :P
19:43.56Megalonbecause if it's 10+ you run out of minutes in a week
19:47.43Gnarfozgames are indeed very short
19:47.53Gnarfozbut for that dataset, blizz said the average was 7:32 or so
19:48.30Gnarfozdetermining how many hours a week per player is indeed the open variable ^^
19:49.41Megalonso 1000 games per player at an average of 7m32, that's 7500 minutes of gameplay per player per week
19:49.49Megalonthat's 125hours
19:49.57Megalonyou see the flaw? :P
19:50.04Gnarfozno, because I'm not paying attention
19:50.22Gnarfozyou have all the numbers blizz provided, you figure out an appropriate estimate of how many players are in the beta
19:50.39Gnarfozmeanwhile, I'm adding to the "games played statistic" :P
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21:04.22Stanzillanevcairiel: they just pushed the build to slow ring
21:04.33Stanzillaseems kinda close if they want to release tomorrow, so I guess not happening
21:09.00nevcairielDunno
21:09.16Stanzillacould still happen ofc
21:09.41FiskerWhy no Lufthansa internet in the us on international flights?
21:09.55Stanzillabecause you are a DK
21:10.22FiskerI'm not flying Lufthansa
21:10.26FiskerGet rekt racist
21:16.10Megalonbut you are dk, so you were already rekt in the first place
21:19.57FiskerDK is the master race
21:22.44Megaloneveryone is good at something
21:22.55Megalonsucks when you are good at depression and cutting yourself
21:22.58Megalonjust saying
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