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| 01:00.01 | Torhal | Huh. Apparently Rabbit is now doing SC2 stuff. |
| 01:00.14 | Torhal | s/Rabbit/vhaar/ |
| 01:00.35 | Megalon | he into ded gaems? |
| 01:00.45 | Repo | big-wigs: 03nebula169 * r13579 HellfireCitadel/TyrantVelhari.lua: |
| 01:00.45 | Repo | TyrantVelhari: add 5yd proximity for tanks during p2 for Tainted Shadows |
| 01:01.00 | Torhal | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/galaxy-scripting-and-trigger-lib/81857-advanced-script-example/#p10 |
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| 01:40.44 | znf | Torhal, why do people still use mech mods? |
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| 02:30.22 | Torhal | znf: Dunno. |
| 02:31.51 | Megalon | 'cause they wanna be the six million $ man |
| 02:35.26 | Megalon | or maybe they adam jensen and didn't ask for this :( |
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| 05:56.38 | Stanzilla | man farming blackfang claws is annoying |
| 06:09.44 | Stanzilla | I get like 40 claws out of each pull |
| 06:09.56 | Stanzilla | so 200 pulls, ugh |
| 06:12.29 | MysticalOS | only 40 claws in a pull? you need at least 20 mobs for it to count as a pull |
| 06:12.31 | MysticalOS | or doing it wrong |
| 06:13.46 | Stanzilla | I dont have the gear to do that |
| 06:14.07 | nevcairiel | heh, i didnt think they would even force you to kill witherbark, thats a more complete fix than i imagined =p |
| 06:14.29 | MysticalOS | they fixed that already huh? |
| 06:14.35 | MysticalOS | was wondering what they'd do |
| 06:14.55 | nevcairiel | portal only spawns when all bosses are dead |
| 06:16.13 | nevcairiel | but they did wait after the event ended, so next time people have to do it right |
| 06:17.47 | nebula169 | it was the weekend, no one was around to fix it! |
| 06:21.03 | MysticalOS | plus they were busy using it too |
| 06:21.08 | MysticalOS | fix it after they were done :) |
| 06:36.12 | Fisker | hey nevcairiel |
| 06:36.14 | Fisker | hey Stanzilla |
| 06:36.17 | Fisker | that mail client was the worst |
| 06:36.20 | nevcairiel | hey Fisker |
| 06:59.28 | Stanzilla | hi |
| 06:59.49 | Fisker | hi |
| 07:09.28 | Fisker | hey Stanzilla |
| 07:09.28 | Fisker | http://i.imgur.com/YTbLLi3.png |
| 07:09.31 | Fisker | What is this place? |
| 07:09.49 | Stanzilla | which of them |
| 07:10.19 | Fisker | I wonder which one |
| 07:10.28 | Fisker | the one that could be mistaken for "cock haven" or some other one |
| 07:10.35 | Megalon | not like their names are right there |
| 07:10.56 | nevcairiel | whats wrong with cuxhaven |
| 07:11.15 | Fisker | Just asking what kind of place it is |
| 07:11.33 | Megalon | a place by the ocean |
| 07:11.37 | Megalon | it has water and land |
| 07:11.50 | Megalon | on the land part the people live, on the water part the ships come in |
| 07:12.01 | Megalon | that's how most harbors work |
| 07:12.07 | nevcairiel | its a small town at the mouth of the river elbe at the north sea |
| 07:12.36 | Stanzilla | if you want the D, you can go there though |
| 07:12.44 | Fisker | nice |
| 07:31.40 | Repo | shadowed-unit-frames: 03Nevcairiel 07master * v4.0.9-6-g31abf22 modules/units.lua: [+1 commit] Fix first group in split raid frames being hidden after reload in a raid |
| 07:32.03 | Stanzilla | phew, 2k claws, time for a break |
| 07:32.11 | nevcairiel | thats so annoying |
| 07:32.29 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 07:32.47 | Repo | shadowed-unit-frames: 03Nevcairiel 07master * v4.0.9-7-g5f3a70c (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Update TOC for 6.2 |
| 07:33.38 | nevcairiel | i joined a few random farm groups in my tank spec and that usually helped getting the speed a bit up, but it also helps if you have some decent dpsers with you |
| 07:33.49 | Stanzilla | especially when you die because you didnt pay attention and all mobs have like 5% hp left |
| 07:34.13 | Stanzilla | I'm doing it alone, groups don't give enough claws |
| 07:34.16 | nevcairiel | solo farming is impossible, it takes ages |
| 07:34.20 | Stanzilla | nah |
| 07:34.42 | Stanzilla | I made the 2k claws in an hour |
| 07:34.44 | nevcairiel | arent the claws personal loot like apexis |
| 07:34.48 | Stanzilla | nope |
| 07:34.50 | Stanzilla | group loot |
| 07:35.30 | nevcairiel | i cant really kill things fast enough in tank spec to effectively farm though |
| 07:35.45 | Stanzilla | Gladiator is pretty good for that |
| 07:35.51 | nevcairiel | druid =p |
| 07:35.52 | Stanzilla | almost all the survivability of a tank |
| 07:35.55 | Stanzilla | and big deeps |
| 07:36.36 | Stanzilla | I usually have 5 lava stacks up too |
| 07:37.52 | rid_ | hey Stanzilla |
| 07:37.59 | rid_ | hey nevcairiel |
| 07:38.03 | Stanzilla | hi |
| 07:38.08 | rid_ | sup |
| 07:38.14 | Stanzilla | break |
| 08:02.17 | Stanzilla | so bashiok is on wildstar now, guess ncsoft pays a looot better, otherwise I don't get it :D |
| 08:04.14 | nevcairiel | sometimes you just need a change, and his new position sounds quite different to his previous role |
| 08:04.49 | Stanzilla | you think? |
| 08:04.55 | Stanzilla | content manager sounds exactly like what he did |
| 08:05.08 | nebula169 | SENIOR |
| 08:05.17 | Stanzilla | that just means he's old |
| 08:05.19 | Stanzilla | :D |
| 08:05.24 | nevcairiel | wasnt he just a community manager |
| 08:05.39 | nevcairiel | content manager sounds like much more involved in the game |
| 08:05.51 | Stanzilla | nah |
| 08:06.00 | Stanzilla | it's like site content |
| 08:06.04 | Stanzilla | so PR and social media stuff |
| 08:06.25 | Stanzilla | for example Bibi is VP of content for curse |
| 08:06.37 | nevcairiel | curse doesnt have any other content =p |
| 08:06.46 | Stanzilla | ... |
| 08:06.50 | Fisker | hey Stanzilla |
| 08:06.56 | Stanzilla | hi |
| 08:08.33 | nevcairiel | http://www.warcraftrealms.com/graph/weeklyactivitygraph.php?serverid=-1&factionid=2 |
| 08:08.36 | nevcairiel | they should nerf hunters |
| 08:08.40 | nevcairiel | too many play them |
| 08:09.01 | nebula169 | i swear, half of lfr is hunters |
| 08:10.27 | Stanzilla | http://i.imgur.com/iSEWe4i.png |
| 08:10.30 | Stanzilla | my last lfr |
| 08:10.52 | nevcairiel | i have a huntard myself, but i dont play him, other than doing garrison missions once in a while |
| 08:10.58 | Stanzilla | almost every healer is a druid, too |
| 08:11.10 | Stanzilla | guess everyone loves being able to do almost everything while moving |
| 08:11.30 | nevcairiel | the fun thing is that blizzard screwed that over for hunters by favoring marksmanship now |
| 08:11.51 | Stanzilla | you don't lose that much dps when running as mm |
| 08:11.53 | nevcairiel | plus the silly class trinket forcing hunters to use the worst positioning of all times everywhere |
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| 08:12.11 | nebula169 | bm still does better, mm is just burstier |
| 08:12.21 | Stanzilla | nah |
| 08:12.24 | Stanzilla | MM is king everywhere |
| 08:12.28 | nebula169 | nah |
| 08:12.34 | Stanzilla | bm is only for long living multi add fights |
| 08:12.46 | nebula169 | bm is better with limited movement and any adds |
| 08:12.58 | nebula169 | limited boss movement* |
| 08:13.00 | Stanzilla | I disagree! |
| 08:20.19 | Gnarfoz | dang https://www.massdrop.com/buy/pok3r-wood-case?&mode=guest_open |
| 08:20.24 | Gnarfoz | that actually looks pretty sweet ;p |
| 08:21.18 | Gnarfoz | btw wink, Mihau, rid_: there's also https://www.massdrop.com/buy/keycool-gradient-keycaps?&mode=guest_open or https://www.massdrop.com/buy/tai-hao-sunshine-pbt-keycaps?&mode=guest_open (and probably others, and from other places as well, MD is just a nice way to notice these things) |
| 08:25.06 | rid_ | nice case |
| 08:25.20 | rid_ | gradient keycaps are crap tho |
| 08:25.25 | rid_ | rather go straight black |
| 08:25.28 | rid_ | ( ͡° ÍÊ Í¡Â°) |
| 08:27.04 | Gnarfoz | sure, I've got those, too :P |
| 08:27.53 | rid_ | (: |
| 08:28.03 | Gnarfoz | new ones coming in, at least. both Filcos had front-printed caps; the Das Keyboard 2 I've had to go back to has blank caps, though... but it's ISO >_> |
| 08:29.05 | Gnarfoz | https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=72609.0 are already under way, https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71995.0 after that =o |
| 08:29.27 | nevcairiel | how many caps can one keyboard need |
| 08:30.54 | rid_ | you will never get it nevcairiel |
| 08:33.15 | nevcairiel | no, because you guys are weird |
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| 08:38.00 | Gnarfoz | who said anything about one keyboard, either |
| 08:38.00 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 08:39.03 | Gnarfoz | home, work, portable -- and spare caps to spice things up :D |
| 08:39.58 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: I'm not sure I said yesterday about the Hangouts extension working w/ Chrome stable... it stopped working @ work now, where it used to work on beta. Doesn't work with either beta or stable now. da fuq is Google doing with that ;) |
| 08:47.57 | Megalon | google wants you to hangout less and work more, ffs |
| 08:50.36 | haste | Gnarfoz: love the front-printed filco caps |
| 08:50.40 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: stop breaking things |
| 08:50.51 | haste | use it to cheat at qwerty, since I don't use it :P |
| 08:50.54 | haste | both at home and at work |
| 08:54.06 | Gnarfoz | Megalon: why did it not work at home (while working at work) for almost a year now, only to switch around now? :p |
| 08:54.19 | Gnarfoz | haste: they're very cheap thin ABS plastic, though :( |
| 08:54.35 | rid_ | nice haste |
| 08:55.25 | Gnarfoz | I sold my home Filco (MX blues) to a co-worker, WASD V2 with MX clears inbound ca. end of August ^^ |
| 08:56.07 | Gnarfoz | sb: this cover version of Don't Say A Word is both fun and weird at the same time :p |
| 09:01.17 | haste | Gnarfoz: might be, but it's lasted me years so far :P |
| 09:02.48 | sb | Gnarfoz: in flames, amorphis, sabaton @ wacken on youtube (sabaton has really bad sound at the beginning, but getting better) |
| 09:03.12 | sb | and yes, strange cover version |
| 09:05.04 | Kalroth | http://i.imgur.com/l2CVZiy.webm :D |
| 09:05.54 | nevcairiel | awesome video |
| 09:06.31 | Kalroth | is schadenfreude a bad thing?! |
| 09:06.52 | nevcairiel | we germans invented a word for it, so it must be good |
| 09:06.59 | Kalroth | german engineering |
| 09:08.03 | Gnarfoz | sb: I saw Sabaton live on the stream, gotta check out Armorphis, though |
| 09:08.20 | Gnarfoz | Kalroth: what a dumbass :D |
| 09:08.44 | Gnarfoz | haste: have they not gone all shiny on you, yet? :P also they sound like ass. :P |
| 09:09.02 | Gnarfoz | one day (hah) I'll trampoline mod and latex mod my switches >_> |
| 09:09.05 | Gnarfoz | for ultimate awesomeness |
| 09:09.14 | haste | they're starting slightly |
| 09:11.29 | Gnarfoz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnwotqFZQhE dat sound difference |
| 09:14.06 | haste | I have some pads beneath mine at home |
| 09:14.30 | haste | bought two types of pads and rubber just to test :P |
| 09:14.37 | haste | sound vs comfort |
| 09:16.14 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 09:16.16 | Fisker | H E Y |
| 09:16.16 | Fisker | E |
| 09:16.16 | Fisker | Y |
| 09:16.20 | haste | hi |
| 09:18.25 | Kalroth | high |
| 09:19.17 | Gnarfoz | haste: elitekeyboards landing pads? |
| 09:19.28 | haste | yes |
| 09:19.45 | haste | think I ended up using firm and no rings |
| 09:19.53 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I've got those, too... put them on my Das Keyboard 2 way back then, but I've since switched to o-rings |
| 09:20.20 | Gnarfoz | not convinced they really did much :D |
| 09:21.21 | haste | they did quite a lot imo :P |
| 09:41.55 | Timmeh | nevcairiel: it's "leedvermaak" in Dutch, works just as well :-P |
| 09:48.48 | wink | Gnarfoz: thanks! |
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| 09:58.54 | wink | Gnarfoz: 25 bucks for 1 keycap? https://www.massdrop.com/buy/holyoops-aluminum-keycaps WTF |
| 09:59.34 | nevcairiel | your link, it no work |
| 10:01.12 | wink | nevcairiel: I think you need to append ?&mode=guest_open |
| 10:01.14 | wink | it's weird |
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| 10:11.20 | Gnarfoz | yeah, you need mode=guest_open in the URI |
| 10:11.35 | Gnarfoz | not sure what they gain from excluding non-registered users |
| 10:12.14 | nevcairiel | .. and having a param to override it anyway |
| 10:12.17 | Gnarfoz | wink: yeah, artisan keycaps (although HolyOOPS almost crosses into mainstream territory) are expensive |
| 10:12.24 | Gnarfoz | (metal ones even more so) |
| 10:14.15 | Kalroth | http://img.pr0gramm.com/2015/08/04/ebf56adcd0090418.jpg can has hug? |
| 10:14.46 | Timmeh | blu is clean \o/ |
| 10:17.12 | blucleancow | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:58.43 | Stanzilla | 4200/5000 |
| 11:58.45 | Stanzilla | ughghghg |
| 11:59.22 | rid_ | Gnarfoz: where do you usually order keycaps |
| 12:01.31 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: of what |
| 12:02.13 | Gnarfoz | rid_: got two sets off Massdrop so far, and waiting for several more from GeekHack group buys |
| 12:02.44 | rid_ | I see |
| 12:02.47 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: blackfang claws |
| 12:02.48 | Gnarfoz | oh, I almost forgot, actually 3 sets, but the 3rd hasn't arrived, yet |
| 12:02.58 | Gnarfoz | MD is evil :P |
| 12:03.06 | rid_ | I thought there's like a decent german one |
| 12:03.24 | Gnarfoz | German, pfff |
| 12:03.26 | Gnarfoz | :( |
| 12:03.33 | Gnarfoz | can I get a nope? |
| 12:03.33 | rid_ | ikr |
| 12:03.39 | rid_ | > i thought |
| 12:03.43 | Gnarfoz | bad idea |
| 12:03.46 | rid_ | wow rude |
| 12:03.47 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 12:03.54 | Gnarfoz | gw2 rude |
| 12:03.54 | rid_ | :) |
| 12:04.05 | rid_ | notfunny.gif |
| 12:04.21 | Gnarfoz | while some shops are veeery slowly starting to carry some of this stuff... guess what, it's in ISO |
| 12:04.33 | Stanzilla | ihr seid doof |
| 12:04.35 | Gnarfoz | which kind of makes sense, but there's simply not enough stuff on offer for ISO |
| 12:04.43 | rid_ | ihr seids deppat |
| 12:04.50 | rid_ | yeah |
| 12:04.59 | Gnarfoz | ANSI is where it's at, and German shops don't carry that because derp |
| 12:06.15 | Gnarfoz | https://www.massdrop.com/buy/vortex-doubleshot-pbt-keycaps?mode=guest_open white on black (currently in a drawer next to me, used them on my office Filco until the gaycaps arrived) and https://www.massdrop.com/buy/vortex-backlit-doubleshot-pbt-keycaps?mode=guest_open en route for when my KC60 w/ backlight gets here |
| 12:06.27 | Gnarfoz | (because I don't have any backlight compatiable keycaps otherwise ;D) |
| 12:06.37 | Gnarfoz | nerd shopping |
| 12:07.07 | Stanzilla | 4400 |
| 12:07.10 | Stanzilla | finalcountdown.mp4 |
| 12:07.36 | rid_ | https://www.massdrop.com/buy/vortex-doubleshot-pbt-keycaps?mode=guest_open daaaaaamnnn |
| 12:07.39 | rid_ | tempted |
| 12:08.06 | Gnarfoz | well, they're not currently running |
| 12:08.11 | rid_ | yeah |
| 12:08.43 | Gnarfoz | but I think those are pretty ubiquitous, all things being equal |
| 12:08.49 | Gnarfoz | can probably find them somewhere else |
| 12:09.06 | Gnarfoz | (they'll be back before long on MD, I'm sure, though) |
| 12:09.42 | rid_ | http://i.imgur.com/iowBBVw.png which one is this btw |
| 12:09.51 | rid_ | from r/mechanicalkeyboards sidebar |
| 12:10.52 | Gnarfoz | probably Leopold |
| 12:10.58 | Gnarfoz | FC...Ihavenoidea |
| 12:11.02 | Gnarfoz | odd layout |
| 12:11.13 | rid_ | kinda liek it |
| 12:11.14 | Stanzilla | what is with you weirdos and keycaps |
| 12:11.18 | Stanzilla | I never even thought a bout changing mine |
| 12:11.28 | rid_ | inb4 now you do |
| 12:11.29 | Gnarfoz | https://www.massdrop.com/buy?mode=guest_open&cat=mechanical+keyboards does this even work |
| 12:11.59 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: well, we spend an extraordinary amount of time typing on keyboards, might as well nerd it up a bit and make it nice |
| 12:12.39 | Gnarfoz | in other news, should I switch to actual "NAS" HDDs or should I keep on keeping on and stay with the cheap ones >_> |
| 12:13.14 | Stanzilla | wd red all the way |
| 12:13.22 | Stanzilla | and yeah but I never had the urge to change anything about them |
| 12:13.25 | Gnarfoz | (which are not really that great) |
| 12:13.33 | Stanzilla | also I do not even have a mechanical keyboard :o |
| 12:13.39 | rid_ | :o |
| 12:13.42 | Stanzilla | what is bad about wd red? |
| 12:13.42 | Gnarfoz | (also, should I build a NAS? I don't really want to, but I'm clearly limited by my current case... maybe I should just switch back to a full tower to fit more HDDs) |
| 12:13.56 | rid_ | build a nas! |
| 12:14.15 | Gnarfoz | they just don't really compete well with the other offers in that area |
| 12:14.22 | Gnarfoz | they win by price, mostly, because WD makes so many of them |
| 12:14.22 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 12:14.48 | rid_ | uname |
| 12:14.55 | Gnarfoz | -a? |
| 12:15.14 | rid_ | oopps and yeah |
| 12:17.08 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: what are the other good nas drives? |
| 12:18.09 | Gnarfoz | well, there's only so many players left, it basically boils down to HGST/Hitachi/Toshiba (WHATEVER), Seagate and WD |
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| 12:18.30 | Gnarfoz | they all have appropriate models |
| 12:19.29 | Gnarfoz | I have the http://www.anandtech.com/show/8743/hgst-deskstar-nas-4-tb-review on my list, should I go with NAS drives one day |
| 12:20.17 | Gnarfoz | (also, https://www.backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-reliability-stats-for-q2-2015/ + related posts, more of a general picture, not really focused on NAS drives) |
| 12:25.40 | Gnarfoz | one major difference is, of course, that reds are "intelli rpm" (whatever: 5400!) vs. 7200, with the expected effects of that |
| 12:27.40 | nevcairiel | i usually just buy the cheaper of the 4tb nas drives when i need a new one |
| 12:27.42 | rid_ | I dont see problems going 5.4k in a nas |
| 12:27.53 | Gnarfoz | rid_: parity calc~ |
| 12:28.01 | Gnarfoz | but yeah. |
| 12:28.10 | Gnarfoz | on the other hand, the additional noise doesn't matter, either |
| 12:28.47 | Gnarfoz | what's keeping me from making a decision, though: 10â¬/TB price difference between cheapest option (non-NAS drive) and NAS drive, at 4TB |
| 12:29.20 | Gnarfoz | and an additional 5â¬/TB to reach the 6TB NAS model |
| 12:29.24 | Gnarfoz | hat kind of adds up. |
| 12:29.48 | Gnarfoz | *that, too |
| 12:30.29 | nevcairiel | i should replace one my 4tb drives, it colleted a few relocated sectors, and i usually want to replace them once the first of those hits |
| 12:32.28 | Gnarfoz | which is the reason why I'm even looking: one of my 2 TB WD Greens has been dying for a while ^^ |
| 12:33.24 | Gnarfoz | and because of how SnapRAID works, if I want to use bigger drives than I currently have in my array, I need to upgrade the 2 parity drives as well |
| 12:33.36 | nevcairiel | does it support mixed drive sizes? |
| 12:33.47 | Kalroth | i replaced three 2TB WD greens a couple of days ago, they had over 4.5 years of uptime and one of them was beginning to report smart errors |
| 12:33.49 | nevcairiel | as long as parity is biggest? |
| 12:33.54 | Kalroth | yes nev |
| 12:34.41 | nevcairiel | i've been thinking if i start replacing a 4tb that seems slightly flaky, maybe i should get 6 or 8 tb drives and use them for parity |
| 12:35.22 | Kalroth | yeah, i was thinking of going with 8TBs next time, i want to rebuild my raid anyways |
| 12:35.50 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: yep |
| 12:35.59 | nevcairiel | not sure i would trust the 8tb He filled drives though |
| 12:36.06 | Gnarfoz | the He ones are probably ok |
| 12:36.14 | Gnarfoz | but astronomically expensive |
| 12:36.18 | nevcairiel | the other alternative is the seagate archive hdd |
| 12:36.23 | Gnarfoz | and the SMR ones are not suited for RAID or NAS |
| 12:36.29 | Stanzilla | 4800/5000 |
| 12:36.30 | Gnarfoz | (or even desktop use, really) |
| 12:36.35 | Stanzilla | irc give me strength |
| 12:36.41 | nevcairiel | yeah thats their downside, being SMR |
| 12:36.46 | Gnarfoz | sets mode: +strength Stanzilla |
| 12:36.50 | Stanzilla | nice |
| 12:36.51 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla: for achiev or for mount, or both? |
| 12:36.55 | Stanzilla | both atm |
| 12:36.57 | Kalroth | SMR is fine for slow storage, like media files and backups |
| 12:37.05 | Gnarfoz | but only if you rarely write |
| 12:37.07 | nevcairiel | because I had like 1000 claws from the quest already, which didnt count for the achiev |
| 12:37.09 | Stanzilla | started at 0 today |
| 12:37.12 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 12:37.30 | Gnarfoz | I hope you're not complaining about subjecting yourself to that grind :P |
| 12:37.31 | Kalroth | just gotta run 2+ parity with them, since the resilvering time takes ages |
| 12:38.37 | Gnarfoz | user reviews seem to indicate that Seagate's warnings about not being well suited for NAS or RAID are not fabricated ^^ |
| 12:38.43 | Stanzilla | nope |
| 12:38.46 | Stanzilla | it's actually kinda fun |
| 12:38.53 | Stanzilla | watching a nice movie while doing it |
| 12:38.58 | Stanzilla | (pitch perfect 2, must watch!) |
| 12:39.07 | Gnarfoz | some day |
| 12:39.24 | Gnarfoz | the 8TB one really screws with your head, though, thanks to the amazing â¬/TB value |
| 12:39.34 | Kalroth | yup |
| 12:40.08 | Gnarfoz | I think the most affordable option is going to win... 3 of those "intenso" 4 TBs, which are really Toshibas |
| 12:40.21 | Gnarfoz | doesn't break the bank and gets rid of the dying drive |
| 12:40.48 | nevcairiel | personally i wouldnt go value on my storage solution, but maybe thats just me |
| 12:40.52 | Gnarfoz | downside: capacity increase not huge |
| 12:41.03 | Gnarfoz | well what am I using double parity for |
| 12:41.26 | Gnarfoz | (yes, I agree, but at some point I'll have to make a tradeoff) |
| 12:41.51 | nevcairiel | trade-off: less keycaps, more hdd money |
| 12:41.52 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 12:41.54 | Gnarfoz | if I could afford it, I'd use at least NAS drives |
| 12:41.58 | Gnarfoz | haha, good point |
| 12:42.29 | Kalroth | i used to go wd green, but i'm going wd red now - not pro though :) |
| 12:42.42 | nevcairiel | i've been using wd reds exclusively the last two years or so, but the other manufacturers didnt have their NAS drives on the market much then |
| 12:42.50 | nevcairiel | now, i might swap to whichever is the cheapest |
| 12:43.01 | nevcairiel | deskstar NAS, WD Red, Seagate NAS |
| 12:43.02 | nevcairiel | shrugs |
| 12:43.07 | Gnarfoz | I think I currently have 4x green 2 TB, 1x green 3 TB and 3x Toshiba/Hitachi 3 TB |
| 12:43.25 | nevcairiel | right now that would be Deskstar NAS for 4TB |
| 12:43.34 | Kalroth | 3x wd green 3TB and uhhm, 6x wd red 3TB |
| 12:43.42 | nevcairiel | WD red for 6tb |
| 12:43.54 | Gnarfoz | oh... hm. that of course also means if I replace the dying drive and need to put the parity on two other 4 TB drives... I have 2 drives too many to fit in my case xD |
| 12:44.09 | Gnarfoz | #nerdproblems |
| 12:44.27 | rid_ | :D |
| 12:45.24 | nevcairiel | 4x 3tb green, 5x 3tb red, 6x 4tb red ... and 1x 2tb green =p |
| 12:45.41 | Kalroth | hoarders unite! |
| 12:46.56 | rid_ | thats alot :o |
| 12:46.58 | Gnarfoz | alternatively, I could just build a NAS with fewer drives and start splitting off stuff onto it |
| 12:46.59 | Stanzilla | aaaand done |
| 12:47.26 | Gnarfoz | there's really no reason I need to have it all in once place, I guess |
| 12:47.40 | nevcairiel | fewer drives, heresy |
| 12:47.49 | nevcairiel | i like having everything in one place |
| 12:47.56 | nevcairiel | i considered splitting |
| 12:47.57 | Gnarfoz | I meant "not at maximum capacity at day 1" |
| 12:47.57 | nevcairiel | but meh |
| 12:48.29 | nevcairiel | instead of going with splitting, i bought a giant case which can h old 24 drives and leaves room to expand |
| 12:48.49 | nevcairiel | although i'll need a new controller if i want more |
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| 12:49.42 | Gnarfoz | I guess I could just move my disks over... plenty of options |
| 12:53.46 | Gnarfoz | someone had two of these at our LAN http://geizhals.de/fantec-qb-x8us3-1461-a669223.html?hloc=de they're pretty slick |
| 12:54.08 | Gnarfoz | but yeah... not sure if I want to trust my stuff to what is basically some huge USB to SATA converter :D |
| 13:00.44 | Gnarfoz | or, of course: http://www.45drives.com/ |
| 13:00.45 | Gnarfoz | :P |
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| 13:04.15 | Repo | big-wigs: 03funkydude * r13580 (2 files in 1 directory): Tiny speedup in counted say messages |
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| 13:10.30 | Gnarfoz | http://geizhals.de/nanoxia-deep-silence-6-rev-b-schwarz-nxds6bb-600060605-a1218523.html?hloc=de almost 21 kg empty? yespls |
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| 13:54.24 | Stanzilla | GC Xbox media stuff in 5min https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYX0EuIm_Nc&proxmate=us |
| 13:54.54 | Stanzilla | phil Spencer is wearing an xbox "all in one" t shirt. He told a fan its "kind of a secret" what it means. |
| 14:01.27 | Gnarfoz | znf: https://twitter.com/pootsitang/status/628329559063179264 |
| 14:02.02 | znf | Heh |
| 14:03.39 | rid_ | too damn hot |
| 14:03.40 | rid_ | :< |
| 14:03.50 | rid_ | cant focus, might leave work early |
| 14:21.30 | Gnarfoz | rid_: do eeet |
| 14:21.42 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla: the xbox games being playable on windows 10 isnt that big of a secret, and that would fit that line =p |
| 14:21.42 | Gnarfoz | it's not particularly hot here today, tho |
| 14:22.06 | Gnarfoz | https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-o2-amplifier?mode=guest_open hmmm :D |
| 14:22.18 | Gnarfoz | kind of dumb with power at the front |
| 14:23.13 | nevcairiel | easier to build that way i imagine |
| 14:23.33 | nevcairiel | because the back needs a lot of room for batteries |
| 14:25.01 | rid_ | hmm, wouldnt this kill the xbone entirely nev? |
| 14:25.24 | nevcairiel | apparently not every game or something |
| 14:25.33 | nevcairiel | maybe game makers need to enable it for theirs |
| 14:25.55 | rid_ | I see |
| 14:27.11 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: yeah... still >_> |
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| 14:48.32 | Gnarfoz | they're fulla schiit http://schiit.com/products/fulla |
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| 15:38.07 | rid_ | (: |
| 15:48.29 | nevcairiel | if your company is named like that Gnarfoz, you just gotta play on the name |
| 15:49.38 | wink | depends. |
| 15:49.46 | wink | the name was deliberately chosen according to them |
| 15:49.48 | wink | so.. yeah |
| 15:49.56 | wink | it's just fitting to go the full mile |
| 15:51.51 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: that's obviously why the picked the name :> |
| 15:52.03 | Gnarfoz | I should read before writing! |
| 15:52.18 | Gnarfoz | just like pop before smtp auth~ |
| 15:52.50 | Gnarfoz | someone is bouncing mails back to us, and they have ~16 MiB .txt attachments... and the mailer-daemon just puts the entire base64 thing in the error mail |
| 15:53.00 | Gnarfoz | Outlook does not really like it. :P |
| 15:53.13 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 15:53.35 | Gnarfoz | "user is over quota" |
| 15:53.47 | nevcairiel | so it bounces back again |
| 15:53.52 | nevcairiel | and an endless loop ensues |
| 15:55.20 | Gnarfoz | it's already being mutiplied by 20 or so every time it happens, since they used our dev team's internal email address as the sender address |
| 15:55.46 | Gnarfoz | ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
| 15:56.29 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 16:01.14 | Gnarfoz | Fulla seems cheap enough to just give it a try, hmm |
| 16:01.23 | Gnarfoz | never had a DAC or a dedicated headphone amp |
| 16:02.49 | nevcairiel | its probably a decent device in that price range |
| 16:03.22 | Gnarfoz | not sure I'd gain anything by it, though |
| 16:03.47 | Gnarfoz | highest impedance headphones I have are my headset, which is 50 Ω |
| 16:04.16 | Gnarfoz | shit (schiit?) it's getting pretty dark outside, probably thunderstorm, soon :o |
| 16:04.24 | Gnarfoz | better go home while it's dry ;p |
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| 16:27.56 | pompy | http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1832087-New-expansion-LEAK-The-Moon-Prophecy hahah. |
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| 16:44.01 | nevcairiel | thats just weak |
| 16:53.26 | pompy | https://blog.malwarebytes.org/mac/2015/08/dyld_print_to_file-exploit-found-in-the-wild |
| 17:06.43 | Gnarfoz | GMs were told today, so any leaks starting from today could be assigned a little more weight |
| 17:11.26 | Fisker | What is it then Gnarfoz |
| 17:17.29 | nevcairiel | the press will probably find out tomorrow, but get sworn to secrecy until the official announcement on thursday |
| 17:20.16 | Torhal | Gnarfoz: Dat device ID, though - https://cdsboy.com/fulla.png |
| 17:23.03 | Gnarfoz | Torhal: :D only logical! :D |
| 17:23.07 | Torhal | :D |
| 17:24.12 | quiescens | o.o |
| 17:24.58 | rid_ | hmm my curseclient decided not to be alpha anymore :s |
| 17:25.14 | quiescens | is that a good thing or a bad thing |
| 17:25.58 | rid_ | I'm not sure |
| 17:26.03 | Torhal | rid_: They're...special about their release streams. When they put out a new Beta, it overwrites the Alpha until they put out a new Alpha. |
| 17:26.26 | Torhal | I can't make any sense of it, but they assured me it's intentional |
| 17:26.37 | quiescens | /blame torhal? |
| 17:26.52 | rid_ | oh, okay |
| 17:26.57 | Torhal | blames quiescens for the imminent heat death of the Universe. |
| 17:27.03 | rid_ | just checked prefered branch is still alpha |
| 17:27.15 | rid_ | all fine then |
| 17:27.19 | rid_ | shrugs |
| 17:27.32 | quiescens | o.o |
| 17:30.29 | rid_ | my games broke :s |
| 17:33.25 | nevcairiel | speaking about beta of things, how is wowace going Torhal |
| 17:35.03 | nevcairiel | i noticed one weirdness on the beta site, say http://beta.wowace.com/addons/26120-gathermate2 .. how is it determining which "recent files" to show, and why does it think a 5 year old version is a good candidate? |
| 17:35.35 | nevcairiel | my first guess is that its showing release, beta and alpha, but that logic isnt that smart |
| 17:37.16 | nevcairiel | writes feedback on the site for documentation purposes |
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| 17:40.07 | quiescens | /blame torhal |
| 17:40.09 | quiescens | nodnod |
| 17:49.00 | rid_ | nods |
| 17:49.27 | quiescens | gives rid_ a cookie |
| 17:50.58 | rid_ | suddenly hallucinates |
| 17:51.00 | Gnarfoz | reading mmoc forums gets me the dumb |
| 17:51.13 | rid_ | new "leaks"? |
| 17:51.26 | rid_ | or just in general |
| 17:52.02 | Gnarfoz | in general |
| 17:52.24 | Gnarfoz | "general discussions" should be labeled "cesspool of idiots" |
| 17:52.37 | rid_ | :D |
| 17:54.19 | quiescens | don't read forums o.o |
| 17:54.23 | Kalroth | ne1 no wer menkirks wief is??? loool |
| 17:54.38 | quiescens | look up specific things if you needs to and then run awai |
| 17:55.24 | quiescens | silleh Gnarfoz |
| 17:57.22 | pompy | creating those silly expansion rumors |
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| 18:07.35 | Gnarfoz | "Oh my little Tastingo - friendship is magic." |
| 18:07.41 | Gnarfoz | clearly the next expansion |
| 18:12.10 | Gnarfoz | I bet chaud has days where he looks at the vbulletin stats and just despairs at the number of mouthbreathers they represent |
| 18:12.56 | quiescens | o.o |
| 18:22.50 | Repo | macroception: 03pankker 07master * 269a49b (2 files in 1 directory): [new, +1 commit] Initial version. Macroception allows you to call macros from within another macro. |
| 18:23.38 | Gnarfoz | we must macro... deeper? |
| 18:24.37 | rid_ | :) |
| 18:32.38 | Kalroth | is macroception turing macro complete!? |
| 18:39.42 | quiescens | i remember using /click to run macros from a macro |
| 18:39.59 | quiescens | the macro length limits were silly anyway |
| 18:43.10 | maunot | this is /click as well, but no need to do that silly actionbar button setuping, works like this /click m macroname :P |
| 19:09.59 | wink | leakspin |
| 19:18.15 | Gnarfoz | Torhal: did you google for that image or is it from someone you know has one of these? |
| 19:18.53 | Gnarfoz | derp, obviously the image is from someone who has one of those, I meant is the image from someone you know :P |
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| 19:34.26 | Stanzilla | yo Gnarfoz go test that RCLC alpha for me |
| 19:34.55 | Gnarfoz | yo erm... no ty, I use that "productively" :D |
| 19:35.43 | Gnarfoz | although, we've only been using it for a week now, perhaps early enough to make people use 2.0 :P |
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| 19:36.27 | Gnarfoz | "No more 20 item limit per session (not that you're gonna need that), no more "award in this particular order" limit, no more "close session when you close the WoW loot frame", etc. " |
| 19:36.38 | Gnarfoz | the last bit is the best change |
| 19:36.50 | Gnarfoz | but I'm not sure the changelog formatting doesn't mean "this isn't done, yet" |
| 19:37.55 | Stanzilla | go look at #wowuidev-commits and you will no longer wonder why I asked my question |
| 19:39.32 | Torhal | Gnarfoz: Someone I know. |
| 19:40.01 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: I wonder if it's compatible with users using 1.7 |
| 19:40.25 | nevcairiel | I think i'll wait until its released, then i can just badger the raid to update to 2.0 |
| 19:40.32 | nevcairiel | but it looks interesting |
| 19:41.30 | Gnarfoz | the bugs and limitations 1.7 has make it a bit bumpy to use, I'm looking forward to improvements |
| 19:41.33 | nevcairiel | a roll option is also interesting, we might use that in alt raids, as its much faster than manual rolling |
| 19:42.12 | Gnarfoz | I like "take loot and distribute later", so I don't have to stand around at the boss :P |
| 19:42.44 | nevcairiel | yeah it was kinda annoying that it shut down the session when you closed the loot window, and then everyone had to restart |
| 19:42.59 | Gnarfoz | (and we get a bit of a buffer in case we realize we did something wrong; particularly annoying with set tokens, because you can't trade them once they're converted) |
| 19:43.18 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: it made me write an addon to toggle the sticky targeting cvar! me! write an addon! ugh! |
| 19:43.19 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 19:43.24 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 20:06.56 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: seriously... that's not a flash drive, Humans |
| 20:07.11 | Gnarfoz | it's 2015, how does stuff like that get through |
| 20:07.28 | Gnarfoz | even the actress is young enough to know better, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah |
| 20:13.01 | Stanzilla | WoW Down to 5.6 Million Subscribers |
| 20:13.02 | Stanzilla | wow |
| 20:13.07 | Stanzilla | that is an insane drop |
| 20:13.11 | Executioner` | nice |
| 20:13.27 | Executioner` | wonder what will happen after the 7.0 exp |
| 20:16.52 | Repo | transcriptor: 03funkydude * r304 Transcriptor.lua: Fix trimming names of NPCs in spell list. Blacklist update. |
| 20:18.27 | Stanzilla | a spike, as always |
| 20:18.33 | Stanzilla | and then a drop again, as always |
| 20:18.36 | Stanzilla | depending on how bad it is |
| 20:18.41 | Gnarfoz | Executioner`: probably... WoW will continue to be the biggest MMO in history and we're all going to keep on playing? :p |
| 20:22.10 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: didnt watch yet |
| 20:22.26 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: heh |
| 20:23.19 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: actually, there's nothing particularly insane about the drop |
| 20:23.43 | Gnarfoz | if you draw a line from june 2014 to now, it seems to follow the trend pretty precisely |
| 20:24.20 | Gnarfoz | if anything, you could say WoD was the most successful expansion in bringing people back ;D |
| 20:24.34 | nevcairiel | numbers have been going down since its peak in wrath/beginning of cata for years now |
| 20:24.48 | Gnarfoz | WoW is dyeiieying |
| 20:24.52 | nevcairiel | thats not necessarily content related |
| 20:24.56 | Gnarfoz | and the question is: which color?! |
| 20:25.01 | nevcairiel | even though all the internet trolls will have a big party now |
| 20:25.19 | nevcairiel | because they feel confirmed |
| 20:25.35 | Gnarfoz | good thing I was on MMOC earlier, before the call |
| 20:25.46 | Gnarfoz | I don't recommend going there now :P |
| 20:26.53 | nevcairiel | if WoD didnt spike that far during launch, the graph would probably even get a bit shallower compared to pandaria |
| 20:27.37 | nevcairiel | its the only expansion to ever spike that strongly, so blizzard must still be doiing somethign right |
| 20:28.23 | Gnarfoz | cynical forum/twitter/whatever posters will say: "yeah, they've improved their hype skills" |
| 20:28.33 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: btw hangouts requires new permissions with a recent update so you might just have to reenable it |
| 20:28.42 | Gnarfoz | re-enable what where? |
| 20:28.50 | Stanzilla | in chrome:extensions |
| 20:28.57 | Gnarfoz | how "recent" |
| 20:29.00 | Gnarfoz | some time in the last 2 hours :P |
| 20:29.16 | Stanzilla | I just restarted chrome because of an update and it told me that it was disabled because new permissions |
| 20:29.18 | Stanzilla | so dunno |
| 20:29.22 | Gnarfoz | I've disabled, enabled, debugged, reinstalled, switched Chrome versions, nuked settings, I don't know how many times :D |
| 20:29.32 | Gnarfoz | well, the chat head one or mine? |
| 20:29.54 | nevcairiel | most of the things that hyped me for WoD where systems related changes, and not necessarily any content which may or may not have been "cut" (or people assumed it would be present because one beta build included an unnamed island on a map somewhere) |
| 20:29.55 | Gnarfoz | also, I'm loath to fuck with it now that it's finally working at home |
| 20:29.58 | Stanzilla | I'm still on this one https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/hangouts/knipolnnllmklapflnccelgolnpehhpl?utm_source=chrome-app-launcher-info-dialog |
| 20:30.12 | Stanzilla | and the worst about WoD were the class changes |
| 20:30.17 | Gnarfoz | yeah, the weird one :} |
| 20:30.19 | Stanzilla | and garrisons overpowered |
| 20:30.24 | Gnarfoz | I wonder how it stopped working at work, tho |
| 20:30.39 | Gnarfoz | makes me think it's server-side after all |
| 20:31.11 | nevcairiel | garrisons probably sounded more fun in the beginning than they turned out to be, but if you like a game you'll just hyper yourself in imagening some functionality to be super fun, even if unrealistic |
| 20:31.27 | nevcairiel | but they tried the concept and hopefully the next expansion will have it better |
| 20:32.05 | Gnarfoz | sorry nevcairiel, we can't forgive them, ever. they suck. they should all be fired. |
| 20:32.32 | nevcairiel | if you read all these complaint posts, half of their points are super silly |
| 20:32.42 | Gnarfoz | (I like the garrison, but don't tell anyone) |
| 20:32.59 | nevcairiel | really like the thing above, like, beta had an extra island on the map somewhere, why was that cut?!?! |
| 20:34.41 | nevcairiel | i like WoD in general mostly, but then the most I do is raiding anyway |
| 20:35.13 | nevcairiel | people complain about lacking outdoor content, in pandaria people complained about dailies, i wonder in wh ich expansion people actually liked the non-raid maxlvl content |
| 20:35.19 | Stanzilla | I feel most of the classes play like shit atm |
| 20:35.20 | Stanzilla | so boring |
| 20:35.50 | Stanzilla | and balance for hybrid classes (sans owls) is completly broken |
| 20:36.08 | nevcairiel | didnt you get the memo, they moved away from complex class mechanics towards moving a bit more complexity into raid encounters instead |
| 20:36.15 | Stanzilla | I know |
| 20:36.19 | Stanzilla | doesnt mean I have to like it :D |
| 20:36.40 | Stanzilla | but it's obviously easier to balance for them that way |
| 20:36.52 | nevcairiel | i never liked playing any dps, and healing and tanking is fine, as its more about the group and encounter play than the class rotation |
| 20:37.00 | nevcairiel | for me, anyway |
| 20:38.34 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: big surprise: it's missing libs |
| 20:39.03 | Gnarfoz | Lib_UIDropDownMenu_ |
| 20:39.06 | Gnarfoz | what's that then |
| 20:39.29 | Gnarfoz | is it this http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/notaint-uidropdownmenu/ |
| 20:39.32 | Stanzilla | :D |
| 20:39.33 | Gnarfoz | "abandoned" |
| 20:39.56 | nevcairiel | probably still works fine |
| 20:40.14 | nevcairiel | should tell him to use acegui dropdown instead though |
| 20:40.17 | nevcairiel | api is nicer |
| 20:43.26 | Stanzilla | https://www.townlong-yak.com/globe/#h:70a34818b12e6782791749990faeaefe |
| 20:43.57 | Gnarfoz | hm wait, the lib is actually included |
| 20:43.59 | nevcairiel | has the dropdown lib in there |
| 20:44.35 | Gnarfoz | gah, why must np++ be an asshole and ignore the settings I put back in place? |
| 20:45.17 | Stanzilla | do I read that wrong or is that still tons of bad globas? |
| 20:45.18 | Stanzilla | *l |
| 20:46.34 | Gnarfoz | 8/4 22:43:15.891 ** Loading table of contents Interface\AddOns\RCLootCouncil2\RCLootCouncil2.toc |
| 20:46.34 | Gnarfoz | 8/4 22:43:15.891 ++ Loading file Interface\AddOns\RCLootCouncil2\embeds.xml |
| 20:46.34 | Gnarfoz | 8/4 22:43:15.891 (null) |
| 20:46.34 | Gnarfoz | 8/4 22:43:15.891 ++ Loading file Interface\AddOns\RCLootCouncil2\Modules\Modules.xml |
| 20:46.34 | Gnarfoz | 8/4 22:43:15.891 (null) |
| 20:46.39 | Gnarfoz | eh? |
| 20:46.54 | Stanzilla | include instead of script? |
| 20:46.56 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla: seems mostly fine |
| 20:47.06 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: then I read it wrong, thanks |
| 20:47.14 | nevcairiel | there is two that seem wrong, j and col |
| 20:47.16 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: nope, has both |
| 20:47.18 | nevcairiel | but those are from a library he uses |
| 20:47.38 | Gnarfoz | script for lua and include for xml |
| 20:47.50 | nevcairiel | there is a few invalid global reads which may be bugs |
| 20:47.54 | nevcairiel | but nothing too dramatic |
| 20:48.04 | Gnarfoz | if you have an xml like that, and it has a wrong path in the middle |
| 20:48.07 | Gnarfoz | will the rest get loaded? |
| 20:51.13 | Stanzilla | what the actual fuck? http://i.imgur.com/mi4wkIR.png |
| 20:52.04 | Gnarfoz | don't you remember the Android bug? :P zips can contain multiple files with the same name |
| 20:52.15 | Gnarfoz | (why that would be the case here... yeah. nobody knows.) |
| 20:52.24 | Stanzilla | never heard of it |
| 20:52.28 | Stanzilla | can you check your zip? |
| 20:52.29 | Gnarfoz | probably using a git build of 7z and it is buggy! |
| 20:52.46 | Gnarfoz | I grabbed it via CC and I only have one file of each, for obvious reasons |
| 20:52.58 | Stanzilla | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/rclootcouncil/files/51-v2-0-0-alpha1/ |
| 20:53.50 | Gnarfoz | http://i.imgur.com/BGcETiT.png |
| 20:53.54 | Gnarfoz | Windows seems to agree |
| 20:54.01 | Gnarfoz | but I'd blame Curse |
| 20:54.29 | Stanzilla | Torhal: ^ |
| 20:55.32 | Gnarfoz | is that actually something he has anything to do with, for once? |
| 20:56.03 | Gnarfoz | I think the RCLC error is simple... hm |
| 20:56.22 | Stanzilla | dunno |
| 20:56.29 | Gnarfoz | he has the templates.xml file included after the lua that uses them |
| 20:56.33 | Gnarfoz | so they don't exist |
| 20:56.40 | Gnarfoz | swap the lines in his embeds.xml, error disappears |
| 20:56.45 | Torhal | The client just unpacks zips, it doesn't alter them in any way. |
| 20:57.02 | Gnarfoz | Torhal: clearly. the zipper-er is accused. |
| 20:57.30 | Torhal | [15:54:01] <Gnarfoz>but I'd blame Curse |
| 20:57.31 | Torhal | [15:54:29] <Stanzilla>Torhal: ^ |
| 20:57.50 | bluspacecow | *rewrites Torhalâs core kernel code* |
| 20:57.59 | Gnarfoz | you're not using WoW as a chat client, are you? where chat older than 1 minute fades into oblivion, never to be read again? :p |
| 20:58.07 | Torhal | floods bluspacecow with ionizing radiation. |
| 20:58.21 | bluspacecow | gasp! |
| 20:58.23 | Gnarfoz | the .zip actually contains duplicate files or at least duplicate directory entries, according to both Windows' shell .zip handler and 7-zip |
| 20:58.30 | Torhal | I got pinged. I read the line and it said "Read the line above" |
| 20:58.39 | Gnarfoz | heh, touché |
| 20:58.53 | Gnarfoz | however, I think Stanzilla inteded "see above", not "see just the line above" :D |
| 20:59.01 | Gnarfoz | so, possibly, all of 2015. |
| 20:59.10 | Megalon | and beyond |
| 20:59.16 | Gnarfoz | ...AND BEYOND! |
| 20:59.52 | Megalon | come back when you reached infinity, Torhal |
| 20:59.57 | Megalon | then we'll talk |
| 21:00.00 | Gnarfoz | shame the repo is private |
| 21:00.01 | bluspacecow | ME |
| 21:00.01 | bluspacecow | GA |
| 21:00.01 | bluspacecow | LON |
| 21:00.02 | bluspacecow | hai :P |
| 21:00.02 | Gnarfoz | Megalon: how long, though? infinitely? |
| 21:00.09 | Megalon | whatsapp bluspacecow |
| 21:00.21 | bluspacecow | ~_~ |
| 21:00.21 | purl | STOP THAT! |
| 21:00.48 | nevcairiel | rclc has a repo now? thats new |
| 21:01.32 | Stanzilla | Torhal: the zip has every file twice |
| 21:02.01 | Torhal | Yes, Stanzilla, but what does that have to do with me or the Client? |
| 21:02.35 | Stanzilla | I thought you care about packager problems, but probably not on the old stack! |
| 21:02.51 | Gnarfoz | I think nobody actually implied or said that this was about the Client |
| 21:03.16 | Gnarfoz | and since we don't really understand what parts of Curse you work your magic on... and you're the only one here that actually talks... (or has built a robot to do so) |
| 21:04.25 | Stanzilla | sad but true |
| 21:05.07 | Torhal | Has anyone tried to clone his repo? |
| 21:05.08 | Gnarfoz | it's private |
| 21:05.09 | Stanzilla | no, scared |
| 21:08.58 | Torhal | Gnarfoz, Stanzilla - His libraries are embedded. AND being pulled in via .pkgmeta |
| 21:08.58 | Gnarfoz | oh, I guess that means I still get read-only access? never realized |
| 21:08.59 | Torhal | So yeah, he needs to get his shit together. |
| 21:09.21 | Gnarfoz | how does that result in the zip containing multiple files of the same, though? |
| 21:09.30 | Torhal | ckk |
| 21:09.32 | Torhal | That's how. |
| 21:09.36 | Gnarfoz | nuff said |
| 21:09.38 | Stanzilla | ^_ ^ |
| 21:10.09 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: I'll do the double embeds ticket, you do the file order one |
| 21:10.20 | Gnarfoz | k |
| 21:10.42 | Gnarfoz | my god... it's full of tickets! |
| 21:14.33 | Repo | New addon: Macroception - http://www.wowace.com/addons/macroception/ |
| 21:15.42 | Gnarfoz | at least he changed the package-as thing |
| 21:15.49 | Gnarfoz | so my SVs didn't get nuked |
| 21:17.07 | Gnarfoz | hm. wow makes a nasty click noise when starting on win10 now |
| 21:17.28 | Gnarfoz | some kind of audio init thing :| |
| 21:17.50 | nevcairiel | some audio drivers still seem to have problems with some of the changes in audio infrastructure on windows 10 |
| 21:18.03 | Kalroth | windows 10 is the new windows me! |
| 21:20.21 | Stanzilla | if that wasnt so sad |
| 21:20.26 | Stanzilla | it would be funny because its true |
| 21:20.51 | nevcairiel | every windows was kinda broken at its launch |
| 21:21.02 | nevcairiel | the statement "dont use windows before SP1" comes from somewhere =p |
| 21:22.59 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 21:23.28 | Stanzilla | but for me personally 10 just has too much stuff that I just don't like in addition to being buggy |
| 21:23.33 | Stanzilla | makes me sad |
| 21:23.34 | Repo | rarity: 03allara * r467 (4 files in 2 directories): |
| 21:23.34 | Repo | - New feature: Group Finder Auto Refresh. Rarity now places an "Auto" checkbox next to the refresh button in the Group Finder search window. It starts off by default every time you log in. When you check it, and you've entered something in the search box, Rarity automatically refreshes your search every 5 seconds. If you click on a group in the list, Rarity will pause the refresh. Once per minute, if an auto-refresh search finds one or more groups, Rarity will pla |
| 21:23.42 | Stanzilla | first windows os in 15 years that I'm no using before it gets released |
| 21:24.08 | Gnarfoz | shrug |
| 21:24.17 | Gnarfoz | you're very picky to begin with |
| 21:24.18 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 21:24.21 | Stanzilla | true |
| 21:24.29 | Stanzilla | it's the little thigns really |
| 21:24.33 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: they're from Windows update, so :\ |
| 21:24.37 | Stanzilla | for example open a pic in the new photos app |
| 21:24.42 | Stanzilla | it doesnt say the file name in the title bar |
| 21:24.43 | Stanzilla | like wtf :D |
| 21:25.31 | Gnarfoz | I've gone without using many of the built-in tools of Windows for 2 decades, I think that might make things a bit better for me |
| 21:25.43 | Stanzilla | true |
| 21:25.44 | Gnarfoz | photos app, why the hell would I |
| 21:25.50 | Gnarfoz | IrfanView! (or something) |
| 21:25.56 | Gnarfoz | Explorer? Speed Commander |
| 21:25.59 | Gnarfoz | notepad? np++ |
| 21:26.02 | Gnarfoz | list goes on |
| 21:26.10 | Gnarfoz | Edge? Chrome! :D |
| 21:26.28 | Gnarfoz | also, how is MS getting away with integrating a browser into the OS *again*? |
| 21:26.30 | Stanzilla | I always use the included photo viewer in 8 |
| 21:26.35 | Stanzilla | but you have to hack that back in 10 |
| 21:26.43 | Gnarfoz | I guess because nobody cares about MS's browsers at the moment? :D |
| 21:27.07 | Stanzilla | that lawsuit was retarded to begin with |
| 21:27.10 | Stanzilla | every os comes with a browser |
| 21:27.20 | Gnarfoz | but not every browser comes with an OS |
| 21:27.26 | Stanzilla | only chrome does :D |
| 21:27.26 | Gnarfoz | how can you be that dumb |
| 21:27.42 | Gnarfoz | that was before ChromeOS (which is just Linux, isn't it) even existed |
| 21:27.43 | Torhal | Practice, I'd assume. |
| 21:27.58 | Stanzilla | well their browser choice thingy was the right move |
| 21:28.07 | Gnarfoz | "their" *cough* |
| 21:28.20 | Gnarfoz | they even timebombed it so it goes away as soon as they're not required to have it anymore :> |
| 21:29.27 | Gnarfoz | after having no IE dev team for several years, and, in their own admission, missing the rise of the web, Microsoft decides to use their near-monopoly on desktop OS's to push competitors out of the market... if you don't see how that violates the appropriate laws... |
| 21:30.21 | Gnarfoz | anyway, it's been years - and history is about to repeat itself... maybe. if Edge catches on. |
| 21:30.34 | Stanzilla | edge is as unfinished as win10 itself |
| 21:30.38 | Stanzilla | should have delayed it |
| 21:31.01 | Gnarfoz | but then they can't claim it's an integral part of the system |
| 21:31.08 | Stanzilla | so every user they get that tries it after the upgrade |
| 21:31.18 | Stanzilla | will probably run away again and never look back |
| 21:31.35 | Gnarfoz | your definition of "unfinished" probably doesn't bother "every user", though |
| 21:31.40 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 21:31.51 | Stanzilla | try selling a browser without extensions to a long time power user of chrome/fx |
| 21:32.15 | Gnarfoz | that's literally what I meant |
| 21:32.34 | Stanzilla | yeah well those are the important users because if they like it they will talk about it |
| 21:32.35 | Gnarfoz | if you don't realize that "power users" are BY FAR the minority |
| 21:32.37 | Stanzilla | and spread the word |
| 21:32.52 | Gnarfoz | no, people will just use it by default because it's there |
| 21:33.10 | Gnarfoz | "people" meaning the "every user" kind |
| 21:33.13 | Stanzilla | sure, most probably wont even realize it's not IE anymore |
| 21:33.16 | Stanzilla | because of the same logo |
| 21:33.18 | Gnarfoz | indeed |
| 21:33.42 | Gnarfoz | same reason I can just put Firefox or Chrome on their desktops, rename it "Internet", change the logo |
| 21:33.49 | Gnarfoz | and they never realize |
| 21:34.19 | Gnarfoz | if you want a power user OS with bleeding edge updates... you should switch to some linux distro :D |
| 21:34.29 | Gnarfoz | new shit broken EVERY DAY |
| 21:34.41 | Stanzilla | I dont actually :D |
| 21:34.45 | Stanzilla | that's why I stopped using 10 :D |
| 21:34.46 | Gnarfoz | in addition, you expand the palette of stuff that doesn't work to include games |
| 21:34.54 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 21:35.18 | Stanzilla | if it wasn't for games I'd probably tried a lot more OS by now |
| 21:35.20 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: they're drivers from Windows Update, though, I blame MS |
| 21:35.49 | Gnarfoz | linux with kvm + pci-e passthrough! |
| 21:36.11 | Gnarfoz | (it works, only need to use a secondary gpu for linux) |
| 21:36.34 | Gnarfoz | someone should make a GPU with PCI-E virtual functions |
| 21:36.43 | Gnarfoz | so you don't have to do that |
| 21:36.57 | nevcairiel | you mean like nvidia grid? |
| 21:37.33 | Gnarfoz | I don't know what that is, but just from the fact that is has a different name, I'm considering saying "no" :D |
| 21:37.45 | nevcairiel | its a GPU designed for virtualization |
| 21:37.46 | Gnarfoz | streaming? cloud? |
| 21:38.03 | Gnarfoz | shield |
| 21:38.05 | nevcairiel | well they re-use the name for a lot of things |
| 21:38.16 | Gnarfoz | "remote" |
| 21:38.17 | Gnarfoz | so, no |
| 21:38.39 | Gnarfoz | pci-e vf are when a pci-e device can have multiple identities |
| 21:38.52 | nevcairiel | http://www.nvidia.com/object/virtual-gpus.html |
| 21:38.59 | nevcairiel | see NVIDIA GRID K1 and K2 |
| 21:39.03 | Gnarfoz | it's not something nvidia would need to invent |
| 21:39.06 | nevcairiel | those are the hardware things |
| 21:39.14 | nevcairiel | well its GPUs that support it! |
| 21:39.38 | Gnarfoz | *skims for mention of pcie vf* |
| 21:41.04 | nevcairiel | in any case, those GPUs allow usage of the GPU from multiple VMs |
| 21:41.49 | Gnarfoz | yeah, it seems to be aimed at achieving what I meant |
| 21:42.23 | Gnarfoz | just with proprietary stuff that requires modification of hypervisors |
| 21:42.25 | nevcairiel | amazon uses those for their gpu compute instances |
| 21:45.49 | Gnarfoz | meh |
| 21:45.56 | Gnarfoz | those boards have multiple physical GPUs on them |
| 21:46.06 | Gnarfoz | and you can pcie passthrough them one at a time |
| 21:46.19 | Gnarfoz | that's not... quite what I had in mind |
| 21:46.46 | nevcairiel | Each NVIDIA GRID K1 card has four GPUs, allowing 32 users to share a single card - See more at: http://www.nvidia.com/object/virtual-gpus.html#sthash.Vhz4qVZx.dpuf |
| 21:46.48 | Gnarfoz | I guess a GPU is a bit more complicated in this regard than a NIC *shrug* |
| 21:46.58 | nevcairiel | clearly must be able to share them more actively |
| 21:46.59 | Gnarfoz | I'm already in the whitepaper PDFs |
| 21:47.06 | Gnarfoz | you can, but not with passthrough |
| 21:47.21 | Gnarfoz | all of this is aimed at VDI, really |
| 21:47.32 | Gnarfoz | the others are just benefits at the side of the road :D |
| 21:47.50 | Gnarfoz | http://www.nvidia.com/content/grid/resources/White_paper_graphics_accelerated_VDI_v1.pdf page 12-ish |
| 21:47.57 | nevcairiel | where the hell did the "see more at" line come from |
| 21:48.00 | nevcairiel | i didnt copy paste that |
| 21:48.07 | nevcairiel | wonder if some js on nvidias page does thatr |
| 21:48.25 | nevcairiel | must be |
| 21:49.02 | nevcairiel | virtualizing work stations is the new frontier, iguess |
| 21:49.30 | Gnarfoz | I had thought clipboard molester JSs had died out... apparently not |
| 21:49.59 | nevcairiel | its nto too bad of a use, i guess |
| 21:50.12 | nevcairiel | at least when pasting to irc |
| 21:50.16 | nevcairiel | but just confused me |
| 21:50.44 | Gnarfoz | in this case I'd even say it's actually helpful |
| 21:50.49 | Gnarfoz | but in general... no bueno |
| 21:50.56 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: wth is lib-st, even |
| 21:51.23 | nevcairiel | http://www.wowace.com/addons/lib-st/ |
| 21:57.10 | Repo | big-wigs: 03funkydude * r13581 HellfireCitadel/ShadowLordIskar.lua: ShadowLordIskar: Minor timer adjustments. |
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| 22:39.09 | Repo | big-wigs: 03funkydude * r13582 HellfireCitadel/ShadowLordIskar.lua: ShadowLordIskar: Fix corruption range |
| 22:58.07 | Repo | big-wigs: 03funkydude * r13583 HellfireCitadel/Socrethar.lua: Socrethar: Fix some stopbar calls & ghosts timer. |
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| 23:29.30 | Repo | big-wigs: 03nebula169 * r13584 HellfireCitadel/TyrantVelhari.lua: |
| 23:29.30 | Repo | TyrantVelhari: no tank proximity in LFR and fix Mending icon |
| 23:33.02 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: nice he fixed all of it |
| 23:33.36 | Gnarfoz | ye |
| 23:33.40 | Gnarfoz | "Woah Blizzard was serious about this time travel thing, they even brought back the vanilla numbers" :D |
| 23:34.11 | Stanzilla | hahaha |
| 23:34.22 | Stanzilla | that's a good one actually |
| 23:34.32 | Stanzilla | Torhal: do you have a macbook? |
| 23:34.49 | Torhal | No. |
| 23:35.01 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 23:35.14 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: btw the embeds thing he fixed the wrong way, removed the pkgmeta entries |
| 23:36.08 | Torhal | lololol |
| 23:36.25 | Stanzilla | oh god http://i.imgur.com/obHgsYN.png |
| 23:36.59 | Gnarfoz | what |
| 23:37.04 | Torhal | What thehell is this guy doing? |
| 23:37.08 | Gnarfoz | I know there's taint associated with those buttons |
| 23:37.14 | Gnarfoz | so he's not entirely on the wrong track |
| 23:37.15 | Gnarfoz | but... yeah |
| 23:37.20 | Gnarfoz | THAT'S not the solution ^^ |
| 23:37.45 | Torhal | Besides, who the hell doesn't just hit escape? |
| 23:37.46 | Torhal | >.> |
| 23:37.50 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: well, since he said he fixed the leaked globals of lib-st, but it's not his lib and he didn't touch the lib's repo... he's just using a custom version now |
| 23:38.11 | Torhal | >.< |
| 23:38.21 | Gnarfoz | probably without increasing the minor, too^^ |
| 23:38.22 | Torhal | I'm starting to wonder why the hell you're so interested in this project. |
| 23:38.28 | Torhal | Seems idsastrous. |
| 23:38.29 | Gnarfoz | because we're using it? |
| 23:38.31 | Torhal | disastrous* |
| 23:38.34 | Gnarfoz | or rather, the stable version |
| 23:38.51 | Torhal | Stanzilla should just start a new project and have nebula169 write it. |
| 23:38.52 | Torhal | >.> |
| 23:39.02 | Gnarfoz | will it be made purely from tickets? |
| 23:39.12 | Torhal | !!! |
| 23:39.16 | Gnarfoz | maybe an ingame ticket system |
| 23:39.29 | Torhal | Oooh |
| 23:39.34 | Gnarfoz | .jpg |
| 23:39.46 | Gnarfoz | (could be anything!) |
| 23:39.53 | Torhal | The AddOn would file reports stating what features the user wants. |
| 23:40.00 | Torhal | Then the WoW devs would tell them to uninstall it. |
| 23:40.22 | Torhal | Quickest baddons entry evar. |
| 23:40.34 | Ressy | LOL |
| 23:41.34 | Ressy | Hey.. They took forever to ban gearscore, despite it severely impacting server stability. |
| 23:41.50 | Gnarfoz | how did GearScore do that? |
| 23:41.58 | Ressy | The constant server requests |
| 23:42.06 | Ressy | And like EVERYONE used it. |
| 23:42.33 | Gnarfoz | it wasn't that big over here |
| 23:42.47 | Ressy | It could cause someone to disconnect from game. |
| 23:42.51 | Ressy | Due to the amount of data. |
| 23:43.11 | Ressy | People figured out how to innundate others with data with gearscore... knocking their arena opponents offline. |
| 23:43.16 | Gnarfoz | what data? |
| 23:43.31 | Ressy | shrugs |
| 23:43.35 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: without bumping hte minor :D |
| 23:43.35 | Gnarfoz | well, you could do that with any addon |
| 23:44.39 | Gnarfoz | maybe the original GearScore did more than I know, or in a worse way than I would imagine... I never used it and neither did anyone I know |
| 23:45.11 | Ressy | Blizzard ended up throttling the server requests from addons cuz of Gearscore. |
| 23:45.30 | Ressy | http://www.wowace.com/announcements/blizzard-to-start-throttling-inspect-requests/ |
| 23:45.55 | Ressy | But the version that could knock others offline was banned. |
| 23:46.42 | Ressy | http://www.ownedcore.com/forums/world-of-warcraft/world-of-warcraft-exploits/271504-disconnect-anyone-using-gearscore-addon.html |
| 23:47.01 | Gnarfoz | calculating my own itemlevel average doesn't really require addition |
| 23:47.14 | Ressy | it was before the ilvl was added to the panel. |
| 23:47.14 | Gnarfoz | whoops, where did my client<>quasselcore connection go |
| 23:47.26 | Gnarfoz | who cares about the panel? that came years later |
| 23:47.37 | Ressy | true enough. |
| 23:47.43 | Gnarfoz | addons were showing item level before gearscore existed |
| 23:48.02 | Gnarfoz | so it was basically group inspect? whatever |
| 23:49.12 | Ressy | It would inspect anyone your mouse scrolled over. |
| 23:49.15 | Gnarfoz | and the amount of things Blizzard managed to create that suddently get "unstable" never ceases to amaze me... when you're over capacity, STOP HANDLING REQUESTS :D |
| 23:49.48 | Gnarfoz | but then, item creation lag on loot during WotLK beta... :D |
| 23:50.02 | Gnarfoz | their systems are a hot mess of spaghetti code, I bet |
| 23:50.22 | Gnarfoz | what else can you expect after... 16 years |
| 23:51.58 | Gnarfoz | I like how that ownedcore user is too dumb to know about reloading the UI |
| 23:52.18 | Stanzilla | still looking for someone with a mac book hier |
| 23:52.20 | Stanzilla | here even |
| 23:52.22 | Gnarfoz | what to expect from someone copy-pastaing a script someone made, in aqua on light gray! :D |
| 23:55.27 | Torhal | You aren't aqua on light gray - you're Gnarfoz. |
| 23:55.55 | Gnarfoz | I'm painfully aware of it :( |
| 23:56.31 | Torhal | Hurts to exist? |
| 23:57.02 | Gnarfoz | the pain of existence! |
| 23:57.13 | Gnarfoz | probably about... a million songs about it |
| 23:57.21 | Gnarfoz | at least |
| 23:57.22 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 23:57.43 | Stanzilla | Ressy: how long till you are a full apple convert? |
| 23:57.44 | Gnarfoz | if I join an LFR queue before the loot reset |
| 23:58.09 | Gnarfoz | I guess I can answer my question myself ;p |
