00:04.35 | Torhal | Stanzilla: You claim 2020 and then when I make a liar out of you, you give no feedback? Bad Stanzilla! Bad! |
00:04.35 | Torhal | >.> |
00:04.36 | Torhal | <.< |
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00:18.10 | Stanzilla | Torhal: I'm going to wait until it's more fleshed out |
00:18.28 | Torhal | ... |
00:18.30 | Torhal | Dafuq> |
00:19.35 | Stanzilla | what? |
00:19.49 | Torhal | "More fleshed out"? |
00:20.13 | Stanzilla | more done? |
00:20.18 | Torhal | It's as fleshed out as it's going to get without feedback. Repositories have to be turned on, and I need to fix like three things with the localization system, but yeah. |
00:20.18 | znf | cook it on both sides |
00:20.32 | znf | what we talkin' about? |
00:20.39 | Torhal | znf: beta.wowace.com |
00:20.39 | Stanzilla | oh ok, it looked like pretty early in progress to me |
00:20.43 | Stanzilla | designwise |
00:20.59 | znf | no, Curse, I don't want a new nickname |
00:21.03 | Torhal | There are some views that need styling, but we're deploying stuff as it gets done. |
00:21.27 | znf | uh, shouldn't this be deleted? http://i.imgur.com/APSr6mF.png |
00:21.27 | Torhal | znf: It's a "new" site, and some people prefer to have an identity per community. So yeah, it's correct to ask that. |
00:21.38 | Torhal | It is |
00:21.45 | Torhal | (Rejected) means only you can see it. |
00:21.59 | znf | oh, how cute (and useless), seconds count-down since last active |
00:22.12 | Torhal | Go to bed, znf. |
00:22.14 | Torhal | Cranky fuck. |
00:22.15 | Torhal | :D |
00:22.28 | znf | well, it is useless :P |
00:23.02 | Stanzilla | timeago.js? |
00:23.03 | znf | can I suggest this tooltip http://i.imgur.com/p4Q0wAs.png to show up when you hover the date instead of the little question mark? (and have the date underline-dashed) |
00:23.17 | Torhal | znf: Dude |
00:23.35 | Torhal | Fuck you. I'm not jotting this shit down as I read it. There's a reason there's a tab to the right of the screen that says "Feedback" |
00:23.36 | Torhal | :P |
00:23.43 | znf | what tab |
00:23.49 | Torhal | Look at the page. |
00:23.55 | znf | Oh |
00:24.06 | znf | shit |
00:24.10 | znf | delete that feedback |
00:24.16 | znf | I copy/pasted the wrong thing |
00:24.28 | Torhal | Ahahaha |
00:24.32 | Megalon | feedback the feedback |
00:24.45 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/OM5ONGS.png |
00:24.47 | znf | now what? |
00:25.02 | Torhal | o.O |
00:25.17 | znf | I'm going to assume you want feedback for that, too? |
00:25.27 | Torhal | What the hell IS that? |
00:25.33 | znf | I clicked submit feedback |
00:26.00 | znf | and it returned some weird html/json monstrousity |
00:26.14 | Torhal | That's awesome. Yeah, that'd be good for feedback. |
00:26.24 | Megalon | i added some feedback to znf's userpage to deactivate him |
00:26.56 | znf | can't reproduce :( |
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00:29.29 | znf | I broke it again |
00:29.50 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/NST1vW4.png |
00:30.20 | Semlar | is your browser in some sort of dev mode |
00:30.50 | znf | Semlar, nah, I have an extension that formats JSON when it detects a non-html document opened |
00:30.52 | Semlar | oh, that page is just a string of text |
00:31.10 | Semlar | you probably aren't supposed to be getting sent to that page |
00:31.32 | znf | Last month I was laughing at IBM with their JSON-XML monstruosity |
00:31.45 | znf | Now I'm wondering whoever thought it's a good idea to send back HTML encoded in JSON http://i.imgur.com/caBwydd.png |
00:32.47 | znf | I think Torhal took away the feedback button from me |
00:33.01 | Megalon | guess he read my feedback! |
00:33.11 | znf | It's gone from the front page |
00:33.34 | Megalon | the frontpage never had the feedback thing for me |
00:33.39 | znf | hmmm |
00:35.47 | znf | I think Torhal is a smiley nazi http://i.imgur.com/S85B9dX.png |
00:35.48 | znf | :( |
00:35.50 | Torhal | Megalon: DOes now |
00:36.07 | Mihau_ | Perfect. |
00:36.09 | Torhal | Weirdo |
00:38.43 | znf | Torhal, any reasons why you're showing really old expansions under "recent files"? |
00:39.43 | Torhal | znf: That system is revamped in another branch. |
00:40.00 | znf | Also, will repositories actually live on? |
00:40.07 | znf | I see they're missing from this build |
00:40.49 | Torhal | destroys znf for his lack of reding comprehension. |
00:40.51 | Torhal | reading* |
00:40.52 | Torhal | [19:20:11] <Stanzilla>more done? |
00:40.53 | Torhal | [19:20:17] <@Torhal>It's as fleshed out as it's going to get without feedback. Repositories have to be turned on, and I need to fix like three things with the localization system, but yeah. |
00:40.53 | Torhal | [19:20:18] <znf>cook it on both sides |
00:40.54 | Torhal | [19:20:32] <znf>what we talkin' about? |
00:41.01 | Torhal | :D |
00:41.02 | znf | Oh. |
00:41.11 | znf | But I see the github thingie |
00:41.14 | znf | and bitbucket |
00:41.31 | znf | will it auto-hook in some way? |
00:41.34 | Torhal | Yeah, that's for external hosting. Local repos will still exist. |
00:41.37 | Torhal | Yup. Webhooks. |
00:41.45 | znf | cool |
00:42.08 | znf | Is this a sandbox, btw? |
00:42.33 | znf | Or is it using the live database? |
00:43.44 | Torhal | No, it'll be wiped. I'm going to do a writeup either tonight or tomorrow to let the general public know. |
00:44.05 | znf | so I can safely delete a project, yes? |
00:44.10 | Torhal | This is a 30-day (so far) "Break shit and let us know" beta. |
00:44.13 | znf | Let's see what happens :P |
00:44.14 | Torhal | Yeah. |
00:46.06 | Torhal | znf: Do what? "Page list on the project overview section are gone. Users have to dig trough the "pages" menu item to read docs one author could have written." |
00:46.13 | Torhal | Oh, the sidebar. |
00:46.18 | znf | Yes, sorry |
00:46.40 | Torhal | Yeah, I'm not really happy with the new pages system, but I didn't get to weigh in much on that one. |
00:47.05 | znf | Uhm |
00:47.14 | Torhal | It's REALLY fucking bad here: http://wow-beta.curseforge.com/addons/8025-tellmewhen/pages/api |
00:47.16 | znf | There's a bug. |
00:47.24 | Torhal | znf: Hmm? |
00:47.49 | znf | if I leave a project as a contributor, it seems that the project gets deleted? |
00:47.52 | znf | http://beta.wowace.com/addons/34451-dothaste |
00:48.08 | znf | Or, I don't know, something? |
00:48.10 | Torhal | ? |
00:48.28 | znf | It had text and stuff earlier before I left it: http://i.imgur.com/lDd606p.png |
00:49.32 | Torhal | Oh, you left the project? |
00:49.36 | znf | Yes |
00:49.48 | znf | Shouldn't I still be able to see that it's abandoned, comments etc. ? |
00:50.16 | Torhal | Im not sure if that's how the current site works or not. |
00:50.39 | Torhal | Yeah, incognito window shows all that |
00:50.40 | Torhal | Feedback it. |
00:50.56 | znf | What about http://beta.wowace.com/addons/46242-black-market-tracker ? |
00:51.15 | Torhal | What about it? |
00:51.33 | Torhal | If you left the project, then it's the same problem. |
00:51.40 | znf | I didn't |
00:52.00 | Torhal | Ok, still the same problem. Apparently someone decided "Abandoned" == "Invisible to users" |
00:53.23 | znf | mkay, enough feedback |
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01:14.35 | Torhal | znf: http://beta.wowace.com/addons/34313-plantaindkp |
01:14.44 | Torhal | Recent files look better now? |
01:15.11 | znf | sort of, I'd still put the date somewhere else |
01:15.21 | Torhal | That needs styling. |
01:15.33 | Torhal | I added the download button and made the filename link go to a details page |
01:15.38 | Torhal | Previously the link just downloaded. |
01:15.45 | Torhal | So when I did that, it jacked the CSS. |
01:16.04 | Torhal | It's on The List. |
01:16.22 | Megalon | jacks Torhal up and runs away |
01:16.30 | Semlar | o.o |
01:16.31 | Torhal | carjacks Megalon. |
01:17.07 | znf | Torhal, I think the release-name should be on the same line as the download icon, then the date under both of them |
01:17.28 | Torhal | Not my domain. |
01:17.32 | Torhal | I do backend. |
01:17.43 | Semlar | ;) |
01:17.45 | Torhal | That's why I didn't fix it when I fucked it up :D |
01:17.51 | znf | also, SO MUCH useless HTML there :-| |
01:17.56 | znf | like, wth? |
01:18.08 | Torhal | Where? |
01:18.21 | znf | those buttons |
01:18.32 | znf | buttons in divs! many of them :D |
01:18.37 | znf | project-file-name-container |
01:18.40 | znf | project-file-download-button |
01:18.44 | Torhal | That's for CSS targeting. |
01:19.04 | znf | I'm just saying that it's not needed. Everything could be simplified :P |
01:19.21 | znf | But, as you said, not your domain |
01:19.22 | Semlar | optimizes torhal |
01:19.27 | znf | hands Torhal a stick |
01:19.34 | znf | there, beat the front-end guys with it |
01:19.35 | Torhal | Hell if I know. I just know enough HTML to make shit kinda work until the front-end guy does his magic. |
01:21.03 | znf | Could probably be done inside a single <li class="release"><a href="#button">[v]</a><a href="" class="download">hit me baby</a><span class="date">torhal's birthday</span></li> |
01:21.49 | Torhal | I never wanted to be a web dev, so I don't even try to understand that shit. |
01:22.02 | Torhal | I've had 20 years to try, never interested me. |
01:22.04 | znf | gives Stanzilla a Wiener Schnitzel |
01:22.28 | Stanzilla | thanks |
01:22.32 | Stanzilla | I'd eat that right now |
01:22.34 | Torhal | But now I'm writing JavaScript and dealing with AJAX and all that jazz. The markup can be someone else's problem. |
01:22.52 | Torhal | IDGAF :D |
01:23.36 | Stanzilla | I hope you like JS |
01:23.45 | Torhal | I don't. |
01:23.50 | znf | I kind of like JS |
01:23.54 | Torhal | But it's a "necessary evil" in web dev |
01:24.11 | Torhal | We've mostly transitioned to TypeScript, which is a bit better. |
01:24.13 | znf | Sure, checking if a variable is unset/undefined is real fun. |
01:24.35 | Stanzilla | Curse sure is a Microsoft fanboy party :D |
01:24.47 | Torhal | shrugs. |
01:25.04 | Torhal | All I know is I was approached at the office one day and told "You're now a C# developer." |
01:25.17 | Stanzilla | always good to know |
01:25.20 | Torhal | Yup! |
01:25.20 | znf | Yeah, I cringed when I saw Server: IIS |
01:25.21 | znf | :D |
01:25.26 | Stanzilla | did you ever do c# before? |
01:25.30 | Torhal | No. |
01:25.33 | Stanzilla | great |
01:25.42 | Stanzilla | did you have someone to teach you common practices? |
01:25.49 | Torhal | I avoided Windows for about two decades unless it was for games :D |
01:26.34 | Torhal | Nope. But I'd done C++ in the past, so was familiar with classes and inheritance and the other concepts, so other than lacking multiple inheritance and learning some of the C#-centric things, it wasn't a big deal at all. |
01:26.51 | znf | I'll be damned if I can figure out why I can't type È in Corel Draw |
01:26.54 | Torhal | The big deal was learning MVC and how all this shit interoperated. |
01:26.57 | znf | it's the only letter I can't |
01:27.09 | Stanzilla | wow: http://i.imgur.com/MTQSuNj.png |
01:27.09 | znf | I have to type it in xchat and then copy/paste it o.o |
01:27.21 | Stanzilla | where can I give feedback for that page :D |
01:27.44 | Torhal | Stanzilla: Yeah, I showed that to the team in charge on both Windows and OSX and they couldn't replicate it on ANY of their machines. They did make a ticket for it though. |
01:27.53 | Stanzilla | ok |
01:28.06 | Mihau_ | Stanzilla: Is it a specific page or all of them? |
01:28.23 | Torhal | Mihau_: The main page does it for me. |
01:28.26 | Stanzilla | all of them |
01:28.33 | znf | link |
01:28.38 | Stanzilla | http://www.curseinc.com/ |
01:28.39 | Torhal | curseinc.com |
01:28.51 | Semlar | want a new nickname |
01:29.13 | Torhal | Mihau_: Interestingly, it only does it in Chrome. |
01:29.18 | Torhal | Semlar: Where? |
01:29.23 | Stanzilla | curseinc.com |
01:29.23 | znf | their sticky footer technique sucks |
01:29.26 | znf | that's why :D |
01:29.26 | Mihau_ | Torhal: That explains it. |
01:29.30 | Torhal | Heh |
01:29.54 | znf | OMG |
01:29.59 | znf | OK, this is the funniest thing I saw |
01:30.04 | Stanzilla | I remember trying to apply to curse in germany |
01:30.10 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/F9PSU0Q.png <-- |
01:30.14 | znf | <script> in <div> ! |
01:30.14 | Stanzilla | and the address listed was wrong |
01:30.18 | znf | the Google Analytics script! |
01:30.19 | Stanzilla | and stuff |
01:30.43 | Mihau_ | znf: The shit AdOps makes us do and we keep saying is bad... |
01:30.44 | Stanzilla | script in div is fine? |
01:30.56 | znf | it's "fine", but it's... retarded |
01:31.09 | Semlar | the part at the bottom is overlapping because the div that holds the rest of the side has a -155 margin-bottom inline style |
01:31.30 | Semlar | side/site |
01:31.33 | znf | Semlar, uhm, that's how they're doing sticky footer |
01:31.46 | Semlar | sticky? |
01:31.47 | znf | negative bottom margin to force the footer to be at the bottom all time, regardless of content length |
01:31.49 | znf | yes |
01:32.04 | znf | it's, "intended" |
01:32.55 | Semlar | um |
01:32.56 | znf | holy mother of long css styles |
01:33.22 | Semlar | well it's the reason the footer is overlapping |
01:33.25 | Mihau_ | I believe the CurseInc site is using an older version of the sticky version. Newer versions have been put on other sites. |
01:33.39 | znf | but, what they forgot - from what I remember about this technique, you also need to add a margin-top to #footer for the same height |
01:33.40 | znf | ie: |
01:33.47 | znf | footer#footer { margin-top: 155px; } |
01:33.59 | Semlar | it could be set to 0 and display correctly |
01:34.13 | znf | adding that fixes it: http://i.imgur.com/cYxKeQD.png |
01:34.31 | Semlar | or you could just not have a negative margin |
01:34.37 | znf | Semlar, removing it doesn't fix it for me |
01:34.56 | znf | but setting it to 0 does |
01:35.06 | Semlar | setting it to 0 fixes it because it's overriding the -155px in the css |
01:35.14 | znf | but it pushes the bottom of the page by 155px again :P |
01:35.21 | znf | resulting in http://i.imgur.com/X3n5Z4d.png |
01:35.30 | Semlar | which is correct |
01:35.41 | znf | nope, mine is correct! |
01:36.10 | Semlar | the footer has a 55px top margin |
01:36.18 | Semlar | if you don't want it pushed down then it shouldn't have that |
01:36.31 | Semlar | it makes NO SENSE for the main div to have a negative bottom margin |
01:37.23 | Stanzilla | 'webkitIndexedDB' is deprecated. Please use 'indexedDB' instead. |
01:37.24 | Stanzilla | 2015-06-11 03:31:06.318 core.js:742 Cobalt.load |
01:37.25 | Stanzilla | :D |
01:37.38 | znf | Semlar, like I said, it's an old technique |
01:37.49 | Stanzilla | C:\Projects\Web\Cobalt\Source\Curse.Corp.Web\Content\js\Corp\Corp.js |
01:37.50 | Semlar | you should almost never have a negative margin on something |
01:37.50 | Stanzilla | ok |
01:38.10 | Semlar | unless you want elements to overlap |
01:38.20 | znf | but either solution doesn't make the footer sticky |
01:38.44 | Stanzilla | znf: I dont think a sticky footer was intended |
01:38.48 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/3UPrkYj.png |
01:39.00 | Semlar | i don't know what you mean by that |
01:39.00 | znf | Hmmm |
01:39.04 | Torhal | Stanzilla: Why the are you telling me this stuff? |
01:39.08 | Semlar | if you mean the space above the logo, it's because it has a top margin |
01:39.18 | znf | Semlar, http://ryanfait.com/sticky-footer/ |
01:39.20 | Stanzilla | Torhal: I'm not :( |
01:39.21 | znf | that's a sticky footer :P |
01:39.40 | Torhal | LIES! |
01:40.05 | Semlar | that's not what it even currently oes |
01:40.07 | Stanzilla | anyway, Mihau_ can fix the footer now |
01:40.07 | Semlar | does |
01:40.13 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: yo |
01:40.20 | Torhal | Mihau_ isn't even on that team. |
01:40.22 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: watt is lows mit dir |
01:40.26 | Stanzilla | HOW WOULD I KNOW |
01:40.28 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: checkesaus: http://stream.hddf.eu/ |
01:40.33 | Gnarfoz | geht, oder? |
01:40.44 | Stanzilla | ... |
01:40.52 | Mihau_ | I JUST BREAK WIKIS. D: WAH. |
01:40.52 | Gnarfoz | :( |
01:40.53 | Gnarfoz | really? |
01:40.57 | znf | Gnarfoz's chat window bugs me |
01:40.57 | Stanzilla | yeah |
01:41.00 | Gnarfoz | it works for me now |
01:41.01 | Torhal | Ok, I'm going to go read and maybe pass out. You gents have fun dissecting the corporate site. |
01:41.04 | Gnarfoz | how can it still not work for you :D |
01:41.08 | znf | works for me |
01:41.12 | Stanzilla | ok cleared cache |
01:41.15 | Stanzilla | I think it works now |
01:41.18 | znf | Torhal, leave us the root password |
01:41.20 | znf | so we can fix |
01:41.24 | Stanzilla | Torhal: dont be mad, you will get your feedback soon enough |
01:41.29 | Gnarfoz | that's... weird, I didn't change the html or css or js |
01:41.36 | Semlar | also having a footer stay at the bottom of the page looks awful on my vertical monitor |
01:41.38 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: #justchromethings |
01:41.39 | Gnarfoz | I guess the m3u8 playlist changed, though |
01:41.49 | znf | WHY IS YOUR CHAT WINDOW SO SMALL? |
01:42.07 | Gnarfoz | small? |
01:42.08 | Gnarfoz | it's huge |
01:42.11 | Stanzilla | how do you even see a chat window |
01:42.17 | Stanzilla | there is the logo covering it |
01:42.19 | Gnarfoz | there |
01:42.24 | Gnarfoz | I removed the logo |
01:42.39 | Gnarfoz | (should take about 20 seconds to show up) |
01:42.43 | Stanzilla | ok znf |
01:42.46 | Stanzilla | now tell me how that is small |
01:42.59 | znf | it's like 5 lines! |
01:42.59 | Stanzilla | blindboyX |
01:43.01 | Stanzilla | :( |
01:43.08 | Gnarfoz | I have it very wide so messages take up 1 line 90% of the time all the time |
01:43.08 | Gnarfoz | ;) |
01:43.20 | znf | how many lines? >_< |
01:43.22 | Gnarfoz | it's 11 lines high |
01:43.33 | znf | pff, mine is 15 and I feel it's small! |
01:43.56 | Gnarfoz | anyway, hm. |
01:43.58 | Stanzilla | mine is 10 |
01:43.59 | Stanzilla | now what |
01:44.02 | Gnarfoz | more testings tomorrow! |
01:44.15 | Gnarfoz | but now my server pushes the stream onward to hitbox |
01:44.20 | Gnarfoz | so both work at the same time |
01:44.21 | Gnarfoz | :D |
01:44.25 | Stanzilla | that's nice |
01:44.52 | Gnarfoz | now I only need to figure out how to get the clappr-rtmp plugin to work (so I don't have to deal with this HTTP live streaming crap) |
01:44.58 | Gnarfoz | or maybe it's actually better this way, I don't know |
01:45.09 | Gnarfoz | I guess the delay would be smaller with rtmp |
01:45.13 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: your guild's homepage is slightly dated |
01:45.18 | Gnarfoz | tell me about it xD |
01:45.33 | Gnarfoz | I couldn't get them to just put a 302 -> forum there |
01:45.52 | Gnarfoz | I think website admin guy is a phantom, not sure he actually exists |
01:46.06 | Gnarfoz | I think one other person has a working account on the site and they wanted to post a news entry :D |
01:46.21 | Gnarfoz | guess that's not really a big focus point currently ;) |
01:46.39 | Gnarfoz | anyway, pushing directly to Hitbox, the delay is very small, only 6 seconds or so |
01:46.50 | Gnarfoz | it's a lot higher on my own box with HLS |
01:47.00 | Gnarfoz | apparently it's as long as the HLS playlist is |
01:47.18 | Gnarfoz | not sure if that's true, docs on this stuff are weird! :D |
01:47.37 | znf | guild websites are outdated |
01:47.39 | znf | we just run a forum |
01:47.42 | znf | well, I run the forum :D |
01:47.46 | znf | good luck to them if I ever go missing |
01:48.27 | Gnarfoz | same, same |
01:48.45 | Gnarfoz | one other guy has admin powers, but he's not raiding with us anymore |
01:49.06 | Semlar | are you planning on going missing |
01:49.09 | Gnarfoz | (or was, since MoP, so almost none of the current people would know that he might have ZE POWER) |
01:49.40 | znf | heck, even the domain is bought by me |
01:49.47 | znf | and I can't even log on to the website I bought the domain :D |
01:50.33 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: I think the trouble might have been that my nginx has 4 workers and I hadn't set the rtmp plugin to actually give all workers access to the stream |
01:50.58 | Gnarfoz | so it would only work if you, by coincidence, got the right worker to handle your request |
01:51.00 | Gnarfoz | or something. |
01:51.26 | Gnarfoz | (can't REALLY be true, either, since with HLS, they're just files... GAH reverse-engineered closed source mumbo-jumbo!) |
01:52.00 | Stanzilla | it's time for bed, Gnarfoz |
01:52.11 | znf | oh man, I'm almost done with the food part of this menu |
01:52.19 | znf | and then I have to make it ready for print |
01:52.27 | Stanzilla | guys |
01:52.28 | znf | hmm, actually, I should save that for last |
01:52.30 | Stanzilla | I just realized |
01:52.36 | Stanzilla | today is Orange is the new Black day |
01:52.53 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: so... time for oitnb |
01:52.55 | Gnarfoz | not bed |
01:52.57 | Gnarfoz | or both |
01:52.58 | Gnarfoz | whatever. |
01:53.01 | Stanzilla | 10am |
01:53.07 | Gnarfoz | but yeah... sleepytiems |
01:55.29 | znf | CRAP. |
01:55.39 | znf | I just realized I forgot to put like 4 pictures :-| |
01:55.57 | znf | Hmm. |
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02:01.54 | Gnarfoz | woah |
02:02.02 | Gnarfoz | I think it works with rtmp now, 1.2 second delay :D |
02:03.09 | Gnarfoz | now I have those weird-ass . . .'s again, even though the video is running |
02:03.37 | Stanzilla | oh and maybe it's 10pm tomorrow |
02:03.38 | Stanzilla | dunno |
02:03.43 | Gnarfoz | most annoying: since Flash does all the work, I can't use dev tools to analyse it |
02:04.13 | Stanzilla | works for me without ... |
02:04.56 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I reloaded and they were gone again |
02:04.58 | Gnarfoz | requestFullscreen() is deprecated on insecure origins, and support will be removed in the future. |
02:08.46 | znf | http://venturebeat.com/2015/06/10/pornhub-is-crowdfunding-3-4m-to-explore-the-final-frontier/ |
02:08.47 | znf | well... |
02:52.34 | quiescens | moo |
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08:12.09 | sb | so this is getting better - changing cable (house cable multiplier/amp) fixed some of the issues but it seems that the netgear GS108 (NEW!!) + fritz!box also causes packet loss on upload |
08:12.19 | sb | Gnarfoz, nevcairiel - need good switch recommendation |
08:12.39 | nevcairiel | # ports? |
08:12.51 | sb | 5 |
08:12.58 | sb | 5-8 is fine |
08:13.21 | sb | could buy ubnt... |
08:13.48 | nevcairiel | I would recommend a HP ProCurve 1810-8G, but its not the cheapest 8 port switch you can get =p |
08:14.02 | sb | meh |
08:14.30 | haste | that's the exact one I have on my desk here :P |
08:14.51 | sb | could this be a problem with "dumb" switches + negationing with the fritz!box? because i replaced the switch (dlink, tplink, netgear) - no effect |
08:15.01 | sb | but if i attach my computer directly to the router - it works fine |
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08:24.37 | nevcairiel | mhm new chair is awesome, but one problem, its designed for tall people .. which is great .. but apparently my desk isnt .. |
08:24.41 | nevcairiel | oders new desk |
08:24.59 | quiescens | o.o |
08:25.13 | quiescens | this is going to end up with you replacing everything |
08:25.23 | nevcairiel | that aint so bad |
08:25.37 | nevcairiel | i need more business expenses or my taxes are going to be soo high! |
08:29.43 | Gnarfoz | sb: what you need it for? |
08:30.13 | Gnarfoz | just regular dumb switching? |
08:31.22 | Gnarfoz | and you have trouble with the regular low-budget offerings like http://geizhals.de/tp-link-tl-sg108-a882498.html?hloc=de ? |
08:31.38 | Gnarfoz | (in my experience, they "just work") |
08:35.56 | Gnarfoz | gah, nginx-rtmp has no option to control the outgoing address when pushing |
08:36.13 | Gnarfoz | guess it's time to adjust traffic warnings on my main IP address :D |
08:39.40 | WrathTECH | Is there a good Lua optimizer? Either online or a windows installer? |
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09:04.16 | sb | Gnarfoz: http://www.amazon.de/Netgear-GS108-8-Port-Gigabit-Kupfer-Switch-L%C3%BCfterlos/dp/B000092RRM/ / http://www.amazon.de/TP-Link-TL-SG1008D-Desktop-1000Mbps-Gigabit/dp/B000N9B688/ |
09:04.18 | sb | no worky |
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09:04.39 | sb | as in "upload with 2mb/s and you will get ~10% packet loss" |
09:04.58 | sb | but it seems to be internet related |
09:05.17 | sb | so if i upload to my NAS (pc -> switch -> fritzbox -> NAS) - no issues |
09:05.31 | sb | but pc -> switch -> fritzbox -> internets - broken |
09:06.14 | sb | fb was already replaced - didnt help anything |
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09:06.43 | nevcairiel | sounds odd |
09:07.21 | sb | it is... |
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09:14.43 | Gnarfoz | sb: how do you figure that your Ethnernet (layer 2!) switches are responsible for this? both of your scenarios have the switch in them, yet one works |
09:14.57 | sb | because pc -> fritzbox -> internet works |
09:15.25 | Gnarfoz | I'd run iperf across the switch to something on the other side |
09:15.52 | Gnarfoz | doubt you'd get anything other than full 1 Gbit/s result, though, layer 2 switching ain't that hard :D |
09:16.28 | Megalon | perhaps the switch just hates sb |
09:16.39 | Kalroth | aww |
09:16.54 | Kalroth | if i was a switch then i wouldn't hate sb |
09:18.00 | sb | Gnarfoz: 2.5mb/s (full 20mbit) without switch: ping increases to 80-100ms |
09:18.28 | sb | but i'm not able to reach 2.5mb/s with switch - and ping is at 20-40 + ~10% packet loss |
09:18.43 | quiescens | o.o |
09:19.20 | Kalroth | sounds like it's messing around with duplex or something |
09:19.26 | Megalon | those 10% packets are my mixtape, switch drops them like it's hot |
09:19.32 | quiescens | hides some of sb's packets |
09:19.54 | sb | Kalroth: that would explain why it happens to all "dumb" switches |
09:26.26 | sb | also interesting: 20-20mb/s download (!) doesnt cause any issues |
09:26.49 | quiescens | ! |
09:29.04 | sb | sadly i changed the cabling now to "direct" - otherwise i could test pinging the router and see if this connection is also affected |
09:29.10 | sb | (+i'm at work) |
09:29.59 | nevcairiel | i suppose your fritzbox doesnt have enough ports to take your cable and your GFs? :d |
09:31.40 | sb | 4 ports, so it would be fine for main pc |
09:31.49 | sb | + 2 switches |
09:32.09 | sb | would be a solution |
09:32.16 | sb | but i want to know whats causing the issue + resolve it for good :| |
09:49.03 | sb | Gnarfoz: you are the network guy - could it be LSO related? |
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10:00.14 | Gnarfoz | I'm not really! :D znf is probably more of a networking guy than I am |
10:00.22 | Gnarfoz | for example: what's LSO? :D |
10:00.33 | znf | Not me |
10:00.37 | znf | I do servers |
10:00.44 | sb | large send offload |
10:00.58 | Gnarfoz | well that'd be in your machine |
10:01.04 | sb | yes |
10:01.07 | Gnarfoz | sure, turn it off, you can probably easily afford the CPU cost |
10:01.12 | Gnarfoz | for testing at least |
10:01.13 | sb | but it defaults to enabled for every windows |
10:01.28 | Gnarfoz | that's a network driver option, not sure how it can have a default "for windows" |
10:01.32 | sb | some issue with LSO + netgear + fritzbox |
10:01.33 | sb | i have no idea |
10:01.36 | Gnarfoz | unless we're not talking about the same thing |
10:01.43 | sb | well, it is... |
10:01.48 | sb | but its enabeld by default for every driver |
10:01.49 | sb | at least intel ones |
10:01.52 | Gnarfoz | if we are, then we're talking about a TCP thing, which Ethernet switches don't give a crap about |
10:01.52 | sb | so meh :D |
10:01.59 | sb | thats right :| |
10:02.05 | sb | and the part i dont understand |
10:02.09 | Gnarfoz | work work |
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10:10.02 | quiescens | woek woek |
10:10.07 | quiescens | gives Gnarfoz a cookie |
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10:37.38 | sb | Gnarfoz: http://www.kdgforum.de/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=33364&start=20 |
10:38.00 | sb | " hängt der Rechner per Gigabit Switch an der Box, habe ich die Lags. Ist der Rechner per WLAN oder direkt verbunden, gibt es keine Probleme und die Gigabit Verbindung ist so stabil wie damals mit der 6360." |
10:38.07 | sb | so its fritzbox related :o |
10:39.59 | nevcairiel | my fritzbox 7390 is fine |
10:40.16 | nevcairiel | does your fb have a gigabit switch, or 100mbit? |
10:40.48 | nevcairiel | if its gigabit, you may need to activate gigabit speed in the fritzbox, some cheap switches may not like switching packets between a gigabit and a 100mbit link |
10:41.01 | sb | thats the first thing i activate |
10:41.11 | sb | its 1 GB, 100M ("Green") 2-4 as default |
10:41.19 | sb | but i changed it to gbit on every port |
10:42.54 | nevcairiel | those guys in that thread say that limiting the port to 100mbit can avoid the problem |
10:44.13 | sb | okay - new play is: 1 switch, NAS, my + gf PC directly at fritzbox and change switch port to 100mbit, everything else 1gbit |
10:44.37 | nevcairiel | if your internet doesnt exceed 100mbit, then limiting the fb to 100mbit also doesnt harm |
10:44.52 | sb | 200/20! |
10:45.03 | nevcairiel | noone needs that speed anyway! |
10:45.18 | nevcairiel | also its cable, you dont get that reliably =P |
10:45.34 | sb | (also, only paying for 200/10, they provisioned 200/20 when they actiavted dual stack - maybe they have only 1 200mbit dualstack config :D) |
10:45.57 | sb | oh, the download rates are awesome, wow install runs perfectly fine with 23mb/s |
10:46.07 | nevcairiel | now back to figuring out how i can get my desk 10cm higher until my new one arrives |
10:46.21 | sb | books! |
10:46.54 | nevcairiel | i thought about that, probably going to try magazines, as i have plenty of those and can average out the height better |
10:47.33 | nevcairiel | Old ct's to the rescue! |
10:48.05 | nevcairiel | need to get the stuff off the desk first though, its kinda heavy with all my shit on it |
10:53.54 | Megalon | damn nev, ain't you got no toilet or what, disgusting :< |
10:56.18 | sb | oh... didnt get your reference to Megalon, thought it was some "cts are only near the toilet" thing :D |
10:56.23 | sb | (which is true!) |
10:56.58 | Megalon | makeshift toiletpaper? |
10:57.46 | sb | nah |
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11:09.02 | nevcairiel | ah much better |
11:09.07 | nevcairiel | 8 cts under every leg |
11:15.25 | nebula169 | aaa/ach |
11:15.29 | nebula169 | whoa |
11:36.21 | wink | Megalon: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHNUu-xVIAAuNPK.jpg:large |
11:36.41 | sb | is wow only 1119 and 3724? |
11:36.52 | nevcairiel | pretty much yes |
11:37.00 | nevcairiel | downloader uses some more ports |
11:41.37 | Megalon | wink: lol |
11:57.45 | nevcairiel | sie wollen ihren brand löschen, nodnod |
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12:07.47 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: c't is good for something in 2015, good to know :D |
12:08.08 | Gnarfoz | sb: are you configuring an outbound firewall? if not, you don't need to open any ports for it, tbh |
12:08.24 | nevcairiel | its old ones from 2011 even! |
12:08.35 | nevcairiel | i should throw t hem out when they are done being desk legs |
12:08.51 | Gnarfoz | I let my subscription expire in 2011 or 2012 |
12:09.19 | nevcairiel | i had mine until late 2013 or so |
12:09.21 | Gnarfoz | and when my room was re-painted shortly before I moved out, I threw out a 4 m high stack of c'ts :( |
12:09.44 | nevcairiel | i threw out most of them when i moved out from my parents house |
12:09.45 | Gnarfoz | amazingly, half the height was contributed by only the oldest 2 years or so |
12:09.55 | Gnarfoz | they used to be quite a lot fatter than they are these days |
12:13.17 | Gnarfoz | sb: fwiw, my 7362sl (or whatever its name is) works fine with basically the same setup: fritzbox -> tp-link gbit switch (the one I linked earlier) -> pc |
12:13.58 | nevcairiel | the thread he linked makes it sound like its a fail in that particular fb, or at least that series |
12:15.21 | sb | or firmware |
13:08.53 | sb | saruman is dead :( |
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13:38.47 | pompy | if anyone's every used Xfire http://www.overclockersclub.com/news/38859/ |
13:42.15 | nevcairiel | sb: he was 93, i would say he had a good run |
13:42.29 | sb | nevcairiel: yup, didnt realize he was that old |
13:42.36 | sb | (movies were 10 yeare ago, right?) |
13:43.00 | nevcairiel | first was released in 2001 |
13:43.43 | Megalon | and not like he had a boring life haha |
13:43.44 | nevcairiel | filming ended in december 2000 |
13:44.42 | Megalon | "the 90s were last decade, right?" -sb |
13:46.50 | sb | Megalon: go away! |
13:49.18 | Megalon | i am the terror that flaps in the night! |
13:52.45 | pompy | http://www.ustream.tv/nasahdtv |
13:54.19 | Torhal | replaces Megalon's firmware with a tac-tac-toe game. |
13:57.12 | pompy | ~lart Torhal |
13:57.12 | purl | pushes the wall down onto Torhal whilst whistling innocently |
13:57.17 | pompy | lol |
13:57.18 | Megalon | i am the weirdo who sits next to you on the bus! |
13:58.54 | Megalon | mhm pompy, i wanna grab some bottles and throw them into that, haha |
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14:20.52 | bluspacecow | i have spotted a pelican. how majestic |
14:23.00 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
14:26.39 | Torhal | tags Semlar through the nostril for tracking purposes. |
14:27.05 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
14:28.00 | nevcairiel | we should have more pelicans, get rid of them damn pigeons |
14:29.00 | bluspacecow | https://vine.co/v/OE0MzOagjFP |
14:55.24 | nevcairiel | mmm the Gigabyte GTX 980 Ti looks mighty fine, with its built-in OC its a monster of a card |
14:56.58 | nevcairiel | didnt you want to buy one Stanzilla |
14:57.59 | Semlar | can you make a slash command to show a secure frame |
14:58.22 | nevcairiel | you can probably /click one frame that then shows another? |
14:58.34 | nevcairiel | (or itself) |
14:58.37 | Semlar | well, i mean a slash command other than /click |
14:58.43 | Semlar | like a custom slash command |
14:59.05 | nevcairiel | Don't think so, but i'm sure if you conspire with foxlit you can figure something out |
14:59.49 | Semlar | i was just wondering if you could show/hide your own secure frame in combat via slash command or if you had to actually get the person to click something |
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15:36.46 | bluspacecow | quiescens: i can has blankie |
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15:49.11 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: I was thinking about it, yeah |
15:49.23 | Fisker | never lucky Stanzilla |
15:50.00 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: are the prices final now? |
15:51.02 | Fisker | what price? |
15:52.15 | Stanzilla | 980ti |
15:55.17 | Kalroth | http://www.geforce.com/hardware/geforce-gtx-980-ti/buy-gpu this final, Stanzilla? |
15:55.29 | Stanzilla | well that is US |
15:55.47 | Stanzilla | from what I see on the german amazon it looks like they settled on 750 euro |
15:56.03 | Kalroth | sure, so add 20% VAT to it :) |
15:56.28 | Kalroth | that's ~700 |
15:58.17 | Stanzilla | and the gigabyte one is 820 |
15:59.05 | Kalroth | http://www.nvidia.de/object/geforce-gtx-980-ti-de.html# down to 719 seems to be the suggested retail price |
15:59.14 | Kalroth | it looks fairly official |
16:00.26 | Stanzilla | indeed |
16:01.46 | Stanzilla | I think nevcairiel was talking about the one with their own cooling system though |
16:01.52 | Stanzilla | not stock |
16:03.34 | Kalroth | yeah, it's also listed there |
16:03.40 | Stanzilla | ye |
16:04.03 | Stanzilla | but amazon does not have it yet |
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16:37.33 | quiescens | o.o |
16:37.39 | quiescens | gives blu a blanket |
16:40.03 | Torhal | feeds pompy to quiescens. |
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16:50.28 | bluspacecow | yay! |
16:50.31 | bluspacecow | i has blankie! |
16:50.40 | Torhal | feeds bluspacecow's blankie to quiescens. |
16:50.56 | bluspacecow | nooooooooooo |
17:03.52 | Stanzilla | gta v in the summer sale |
17:03.54 | Stanzilla | 23 euro |
17:03.54 | Stanzilla | wtf |
17:05.50 | Funkeh` | wow |
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17:22.12 | Fisker | What summer sale? |
17:23.20 | wink | it's going doooooooown |
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17:26.01 | Brad_M | Is it possible to withdraw an addon version that has been released? Skillet 3.00 and Skillet 3.01 appear to have serious issues (which I can't reproduce). |
17:30.52 | Semlar | no take-backs |
17:31.28 | Semlar | you can upload another version |
17:32.05 | Semlar | or get torhal to delete it |
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17:38.17 | Torhal | Or delete it yourself from the project page. |
17:39.20 | Semlar | that requires like ten clicks |
17:39.58 | Torhal | And "Die Semlar" is 10 characters. |
17:40.14 | Torhal | If I add a period, that is. |
17:40.15 | Semlar | on a related note can we address the fact that it takes a dozen clicks to get to a screenshot on curseforge |
17:40.16 | Kalroth | Das Semlar* |
17:40.34 | Torhal | Semlar: Certainly. wow-beta.curseforge.com |
17:40.55 | Semlar | if i want to see a full sized image i have to click a thing and then click another thing, it's out of hand |
17:41.01 | Fisker | Hey Torhal |
17:41.07 | Torhal | Hey Fisker |
17:41.09 | Torhal | Stab Semlar> |
17:41.09 | Fisker | Hey |
17:41.10 | Fisker | No |
17:41.11 | Torhal | ? |
17:41.13 | Torhal | Oh, ok. |
17:41.15 | Semlar | hey fisker |
17:41.16 | pompy | https://downdetector.com/status/comcast-xfinity/map/ dat outage map |
17:41.18 | Fisker | Kill Semlar |
17:41.22 | Semlar | no! |
17:41.23 | Fisker | Hey Torhal |
17:41.28 | Kalroth | dont kick the baby |
17:41.30 | Torhal | Hey Fisker |
17:41.32 | Torhal | Maim pompy? |
17:41.41 | Fisker | Nope |
17:41.46 | pompy | hm |
17:41.47 | Fisker | Kiss pompy |
17:41.51 | Torhal | !!! |
17:41.53 | Kalroth | aw |
17:42.00 | bluspacecow | but Semlar |
17:42.03 | Kalroth | Now kith. |
17:42.05 | bluspacecow | DROPBEARS! |
17:42.07 | bluspacecow | RUN! |
17:42.14 | Semlar | there is nowhere to run |
17:42.46 | bluspacecow | *dies* |
17:42.51 | Brad_M | If I delete the versions on the Wowace project page, will Curse revert back to the last remaining released version? |
17:43.04 | Torhal | Once it syncs over, yeah. |
17:43.32 | Brad_M | but any alpha versions in SVN will remain, correct? |
17:43.51 | Torhal | You're deleting a zip file, not repository history. |
17:45.47 | Brad_M | Can you give me instructions (or a pointer) on how the create a branch in SVN? I want to withdraw 3.00 and 3.01 and then move some of the smaller fixes in those versions into 2.81+. |
17:46.56 | Torhal | I haven't used SVN in at least five years, and even when I did I never made branches. |
17:47.11 | Torhal | :/ |
17:47.54 | Brad_M | Would moving to GIT make it any easier? |
17:49.12 | Torhal | Git's designed for doing branch work, actually. |
17:50.03 | Brad_M | I guess a better question is how will the wowace project builder handle branches. |
17:50.15 | Torhal | It doesn't. |
17:50.19 | Torhal | Only works on the main branch. |
17:50.48 | nebula169 | and tags |
17:51.13 | Torhal | ...on the main branch. |
17:51.32 | pompy | Steam servers go boom |
17:51.35 | Torhal | Though tags are a different beast on SVN, so... |
17:51.40 | Torhal | pompy: Of course, Summer Sale. |
17:51.46 | pompy | indeeed |
17:51.49 | nebula169 | tags are just tags in svn |
17:51.50 | pompy | this monster game better be cool |
17:52.07 | pompy | Todayâs special deals were unlocked by the community who completed yesterdayâs milestones. Play the Monster Summer Game <http://steamcommunity.com/minigame/> and complete todayâs milestones to unlock more deals for tomorrow. |
17:52.29 | pompy | http://i.ytimg.com/vi/nB2tk8TJarQ/maxresdefault.jpg |
17:52.39 | nebula169 | pretty sure if you tag a branch, it'll get packaged |
17:52.53 | Brad_M | Then I think that answers my question... I'm stuck reverting the main branch to the old code base and then reintroducing the changes hopefully without breaking something I can't reproduce ;-) |
17:53.41 | pompy | http://cdn.pcgamesn.com/sites/default/files/gabewallet.jpg |
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18:18.57 | Brad_M | Torhal, I need your help! I deleted 3.0, 3.0-nolib, 3.01, and 3.01-nolib files on wowace. Curse updated alright, but to 2.52beta instead of 2.80 release. |
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18:20.46 | Torhal | Brad_M: I'll ping someone about it. |
18:21.06 | quiescens | blah |
18:21.10 | quiescens | o.o |
18:21.16 | quiescens | goto sleep |
18:22.15 | Torhal | offers pompy a chocolate-covered quiescens. |
18:22.31 | Brad_M | Torhal, can you send me a pm on wowace (bsmorgan) when it is fixed (or declared hopelessly broken), please. |
18:22.47 | Torhal | Yeah, when I hear back on it. |
18:23.07 | Brad_M | Thanks! |
18:23.09 | Fisker | .prizeminigame |
18:23.12 | Torhal | np! |
18:23.17 | Torhal | Hey Fisker |
18:23.19 | Torhal | Summer Sale? |
18:23.21 | Fisker | hey Torhal |
18:23.28 | Fisker | nope |
18:23.48 | Torhal | hey Fisker |
18:23.52 | Fisker | hey Torhal |
18:23.53 | Torhal | ¯\(°_o)/¯ |
18:24.17 | Torhal | Heyorama? |
18:24.24 | Fisker | hey everybody |
18:25.37 | znf | what |
18:25.40 | znf | now I have to do more shit? |
18:25.43 | znf | for the summer sale thing? |
18:26.07 | quiescens | what are you doing? |
18:26.12 | Fisker | You don't have to do anything znf |
18:28.15 | quiescens | oh good |
18:28.16 | quiescens | sales |
18:28.17 | znf | well, thsi doesn't seem to be working |
18:28.31 | Torhal | sells quiescens to znf at a discount. |
18:28.42 | znf | this shit ain't workin' |
18:29.00 | Torhal | No refunds, znf. |
18:29.50 | quiescens | ): |
18:31.04 | Fisker | time to hack Stanzilla |
18:31.46 | Torhal | hands Fisker a band saw and a hatchet. |
18:33.15 | Fisker | Why doesn't it work Stanzilla ? |
18:33.56 | bluspacecow | You need chewing game |
18:34.02 | bluspacecow | caramel flavoured |
18:34.29 | znf | pwned servers :( |
18:34.32 | znf | rekt servers |
18:34.34 | znf | etc |
18:35.14 | Fisker | they tried |
18:36.28 | znf | so it's like multiplayer cookie clicker |
18:38.59 | znf | I also joined Stanzilla's game! |
18:39.46 | quiescens | o.o |
18:40.25 | znf | c'mon Stanzilla |
18:40.29 | znf | fix the game! |
18:41.07 | quiescens | this does not appear to be woeking as well as it is intended to |
18:42.18 | Fisker | never lucky |
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18:46.38 | znf | it works, sometimes https://gfycat.com/GleefulEnormousIberianmole |
18:47.17 | Gnarfoz | wanna watch us fail? Kromog this time! |
18:49.04 | znf | Fisker, call me when the servers start breathing |
18:50.22 | Stanzilla | hi |
18:50.49 | Fisker | No |
18:55.35 | znf | 1mil people already playing :D |
18:55.37 | znf | well |
18:55.38 | znf | "playing" |
19:03.46 | Gnarfoz | playing what? |
19:04.13 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: any idea when that "can do turn-by-turn navigation" version of Google Maps is going to appear for mortal people? |
19:04.32 | Stanzilla | no idea |
19:05.04 | quiescens | o.o |
19:05.07 | quiescens | doesn't everything have it? |
19:07.30 | Gnarfoz | "everything"? |
19:07.41 | quiescens | turn by turn thingy |
19:09.10 | Stanzilla | now that I think of it, I'm pretty sure I used it last year or so |
19:09.21 | Stanzilla | or are you talking about the offline version, Gnarfoz |
19:09.31 | Gnarfoz | that's the same version |
19:09.37 | Stanzilla | no? |
19:09.38 | Gnarfoz | oh... |
19:09.44 | Gnarfoz | I somehow elided that particular part. |
19:09.56 | Gnarfoz | I meant the "can do turn-by-turn while offline" version |
19:10.01 | Gnarfoz | that was announced during I/O |
19:10.06 | Stanzilla | ah |
19:10.08 | quiescens | o.o |
19:10.09 | Stanzilla | well that can take a while |
19:10.12 | quiescens | silly foz |
19:10.32 | quiescens | leaving out entire words is silly ): |
19:11.07 | znf | oh man, so many tards on /r/steam :( |
19:11.12 | znf | "hurr durr, give more servers" |
19:11.28 | znf | if stuff would scale like that... |
19:11.52 | Stanzilla | reddit is unusable atm anyway |
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19:20.03 | Torhal | znf: https://twitter.com/notch/status/609064337098047488 |
19:22.36 | Parnic | valve should know by now how terribly their servers handle these sales. then to add an interactive game to it? |
19:22.54 | Parnic | good job sonny |
19:23.16 | Torhal | I blame Fisker, Parnic. |
19:23.30 | Parnic | i'm sure he's involved |
19:23.32 | znf | whoever had the brilliant idea of having 1000 slots/game was... :D |
19:23.33 | Torhal | I bet he logged in and heyed everyone. |
19:30.17 | Semlar | hey torhal |
19:30.31 | Torhal | hey Semlar |
19:30.34 | Torhal | Lynching? |
19:31.52 | Semlar | my netflix trial expires in 3 days :( |
19:32.18 | Torhal | Here, Parnic - in case you hadn't seen (since I haven't put out an announcement yet) http://beta.wowace.com |
19:32.33 | Parnic | i had not seen. neat. |
19:33.09 | Parnic | i need to push a superfluous new version of my addon to get my rewards share back up. i was at 80/day a month ago, at 30/day now :P |
19:33.18 | Parnic | (disclaimer: i wouldn't actually do that) |
19:37.29 | Torhal | :O |
19:49.16 | bluspacecow | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ff0z1t-Poa8 |
20:03.39 | Repo | skillet: 03bsmorgan * r456 (14 files in 3 directories): Skillet: |
20:03.39 | Repo | - Revert to 2.80 + cosmetic changes |
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20:27.33 | Brad_M | Torhal, I figured out how to get SVN to create a new revision from an old 2.80 revision. I've updated Skillet.toc, Skillet.lua, and one other file as r456 but the packager hasn't run in the last 30 minutes. |
20:28.50 | Brad_M | If I can get r456 packaged, I can tag it as 2.81 and that should fix the Curse problem. |
20:30.33 | Funkeh` | so are people macroing clicking for the steam summer game, or are there going to be a lot of people with RSI |
20:38.30 | Stanzilla | it's javascript |
20:38.32 | Stanzilla | go figure |
20:42.59 | quiescens | moo? |
20:51.46 | Gnarfoz | meow |
20:55.49 | nevcairiel | Mmmm carbon nanotube non-volatile memory at DRAM speeds |
20:56.04 | nevcairiel | I wish it was 5 years from now |
20:56.33 | nevcairiel | All the good tech is on the horizon now but only coming later :( |
20:58.50 | Stanzilla | hey nevcairiel |
20:59.00 | Stanzilla | was I right in assuming you were talking about the windforce edition? |
20:59.36 | nevcairiel | The Gaming G1 yeah |
20:59.44 | nevcairiel | Gh.de lists prices and even stock |
21:00.58 | Stanzilla | need amazon though |
21:02.55 | nevcairiel | Need patience then |
21:04.13 | Brad_M | Is there anyone here that can "kick" the wowace packager? |
21:04.23 | nevcairiel | Torhal |
21:04.56 | Brad_M | I don't think he's "really" here :-( |
21:05.35 | Gnarfoz | he's *unreal*! |
21:07.02 | nevcairiel | Speaking of unreal, the latest news on UE4 really look nice, exploiting many dx12 things for awesomeness |
21:08.41 | nevcairiel | Like multi gpu rendering, use the built-in Intel gpu for a neat performance boost |
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21:32.12 | Repo | skillet: 03bsmorgan * r457 SkilletData.lua: Skillet: |
21:32.12 | Repo | - Add Draenor Alchemy Transmutes to ignore list. |
21:32.12 | Repo | - Add shift-click on crafting NPCs to open Blizzard Tradeskill frame. |
21:38.16 | Stanzilla | indeed |
21:41.21 | Stanzilla | if only w10 wasnt such a shit fest and I could actually look forward to installing it |
21:42.37 | nevcairiel | I do look forward to it |
21:42.56 | nevcairiel | Thats what you get for running betas, spoiled it for ya! |
21:45.26 | Stanzilla | why spoiled, I have a good overview of all the changes and know to expect |
21:45.30 | Stanzilla | *what |
21:45.58 | Stanzilla | and I can guarantee you that the initial release will be buggy as hell |
21:46.20 | Stanzilla | especially everything around modern apps |
21:46.48 | nevcairiel | i dont use them now, i wont care if they break then =P |
21:47.05 | Funkeh` | https://www.reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/39gzqb/developers_who_raised_their_price_then_slapped/ |
21:47.24 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: you will have to |
21:47.27 | Stanzilla | even the start menu is one |
21:47.29 | Stanzilla | so yeah |
21:47.40 | nevcairiel | Anyway, people really shouldnt presume to knoiw the exact state of the OS based on the test builds, which are probably weeks old when they get posted |
21:47.58 | Stanzilla | they're not anymore |
21:48.11 | Stanzilla | you can see the compile date and the last compiled version of every branch online |
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21:50.42 | nevcairiel | even then, integration branches (ie. things builds are made from) are just by themself usually quite old, as integrating all the changes takes time on a project of this size |
21:52.18 | nevcairiel | in any case, we will see in about 6 weeks |
21:52.20 | nebula169 | Funkeh`: why are people crying about that, it's not like they're raising the discounted price, it's pretty normal for sale prices to be compared to the msrp |
21:52.26 | Stanzilla | partners get winmain builds :p |
21:52.31 | Stanzilla | and yeah we will |
21:58.11 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: did you only read up about the G1 or are the other manufacturers' OC cards equally good? |
21:59.56 | nevcairiel | dunno, the G1 cooler is pretty good |
22:00.12 | Stanzilla | yeah |
22:00.34 | nevcairiel | in lack of other t ests, you could compare the tests of the custom cooled 980's, the coolers are pretty mcuh the same |
22:00.44 | nevcairiel | ASUS and MSI are probably fine |
22:03.27 | Stanzilla | meeeh amazon only has stock coolers for any vendor |
22:09.13 | nevcairiel | man the new paladin set looks terrible :D |
22:09.24 | Stanzilla | all of them look shit imo |
22:09.30 | nevcairiel | i kinda like the druid set |
22:09.37 | Stanzilla | trying way to hard to get fancy and therefore using too many materials and colors |
22:09.39 | Stanzilla | => clown |
22:09.54 | nevcairiel | druid set is pretty simple color wise |
22:10.14 | nevcairiel | the pvp variants look a bit funky, but what do i care |
22:11.02 | nevcairiel | normal-mode priest also looks ok, heroic and mythic are kinda bad though |
22:13.12 | nevcairiel | again no off-set shoulders with the druid look though, so no mythic look for me :( |
22:13.26 | nevcairiel | always monk or rogue on the leather off-sets |
22:14.32 | nevcairiel | in fact usually both |
22:15.26 | Funkeh` | I like how it makes you leave your current steam minigame before telling you that you can only join games that are not more than 10 levels above you |
22:15.58 | Funkeh` | so now everything has reset because I "left" my game and got given a mesage that I can't join the game I was trying to join! |
22:19.24 | znf | my team is lvl10 |
22:20.58 | Funkeh` | same |
22:21.05 | Funkeh` | I tried to join a game that was lvl 19 |
22:21.12 | Funkeh` | which last I checked, 10+10=20 |
22:21.17 | Funkeh` | so that *should* be allowed |
22:21.50 | Funkeh` | so it kicked me out of my game *before* checking if I could join the new game, and then prevented me from joining it even though it's within the threshold |
22:24.12 | nevcairiel | i just get an error trying to click play |
22:25.53 | Repo | skillet: 03bsmorgan 042.81 * r458 : Tagging as 2.81 |
22:25.54 | Funkeh` | I joined the game again because I have friends in it |
22:25.59 | Funkeh` | so I'm at level 10 |
22:26.10 | Funkeh` | unfortunately it reset all my stats and gold, so, fuck it :p |
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22:26.51 | nevcairiel | just keeps erroring out on me, oh well, i usually ignore those shitty games during sales anyway, why should this time be any different |
22:28.02 | znf | lvl11! |
22:28.13 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/QAiQCFf.png |
22:28.37 | Funkeh` | lol wtf |
22:29.20 | Funkeh` | nevcairiel, if you care about the whole badge stuff you need to be in a game to level it, it levels according to the highest level your game reaches |
22:31.00 | Stanzilla | I'm 20 now |
22:31.05 | znf | lvl13 |
22:31.08 | znf | how are you 20?! |
22:31.11 | znf | we were in the same game :-| |
22:31.16 | Stanzilla | dunno? |
22:31.49 | Stanzilla | just bought advanced targetting #3 |
22:31.52 | Stanzilla | that shit is crazy |
22:34.35 | znf | 15! |
22:34.53 | znf | no |
22:34.56 | znf | crazy is x6 fire :D |
22:36.47 | znf | raining gold is awesome :D |
22:37.36 | Stanzilla | I specialized on water |
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22:44.08 | znf | lvl18 |
22:50.04 | znf | ow :( |
22:50.06 | znf | I died |
22:51.05 | Torhal | Funkeh`: Did you see that the beta sites are up? |
22:53.01 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/Tf9Q6Ub.png |
22:53.01 | znf | O.O |
22:57.26 | nevcairiel | either this game is f'ing buggy, or i just dont get it |
22:57.40 | nevcairiel | i sit there and suddenly i die, without any indication or whatever |
22:58.02 | znf | servers stopped working now |
22:58.03 | znf | at least mine |
23:03.16 | nevcairiel | seems extremyl broken right now |
23:05.38 | znf | it was going so well :( |
23:05.41 | znf | went to lvl19 :( |
23:05.49 | znf | oh, we're 20 now! :( |
23:08.25 | nebula169 | Torhal: beta for what? |
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23:08.57 | Torhal | nebula169: http://beta.wowace.com and http://wow-beta.curseforge.com |
23:09.07 | nebula169 | oh fancy |
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23:21.46 | nebula169 | seems silly there are still two different project sites |
23:22.37 | nevcairiel | keep the curseforge peasants out of wowace |
23:22.44 | nebula169 | lol |
23:23.09 | nevcairiel | back in the good old days we moved all the crap looking projects to CF when they applied |
23:23.28 | nebula169 | yea, i mean i understand the origins of it all |
23:24.34 | nevcairiel | The CF skin looks better though, the wowace skin has so many fails .. trying to put many elements still in CF colors onto a wowace themed background, just looking terrible |
23:24.41 | Repo | classtimer: 03stanzilla 042.3.60100.2 * r439 : Tagging as 2.3.60100.2 |
23:25.25 | Stanzilla | I really thought it's not worth giving feedback in such a early state |
23:25.34 | Stanzilla | but it's not early at all from what I got |
23:25.38 | Stanzilla | so dunno |
23:25.40 | Stanzilla | looks crappy :< |
23:26.01 | Torhal | nevcairiel: Styling isn't complete for wowace |
23:26.53 | Torhal | Actually, isn't complete at all. There was no concept of skinning until Kaelten insisted that WowAce didn't look like another generic CurseForge site. |
23:27.17 | Torhal | So our frontend guy is having to go through everything so each site can skin things its own way. |
23:27.39 | Torhal | We're actively iterating All The Things during the beta. |
23:27.44 | nevcairiel | good for him, those guys need to be kept busy, or they start experimenting with too many crazy JS frameworks |
23:27.52 | Torhal | Hahaha |
23:28.05 | nebula169 | it's more than just frameworks now, it's supersets of js |
23:28.32 | nevcairiel | i havent had a frontend guy to drive me crazy for a year now or so, i'm not up to date! |
23:29.15 | Torhal | But yeah - this is why some of the views (like the user profile) have weird shit like black text on a blue background; he hasn't gotten to that yet. |
23:32.22 | Torhal | Stanzilla: No, a Maintainer does not have the power to manipulate members on a project. You're a moderator, man. |
23:39.30 | Stanzilla | well |
23:39.33 | Stanzilla | should have maybe |
23:39.47 | Stanzilla | also you are scary, reading my feedback so fast :< |
23:40.09 | Torhal | Nah, that's up to the project owner. Whom, by the way, will have the ability to give that permissions to anyone on the team. |
23:40.22 | Stanzilla | ok that sounds sane |
23:40.56 | Stanzilla | Torhal: are you just getting emails with that stuff or is that entered in some bugtracking software? |
23:41.23 | Torhal | I actually had the page open, and after you said something about feedback I hit refresh :D |
23:41.49 | Stanzilla | so it's a tracker |
23:41.55 | nebula169 | noticed all of the repo views/settings are gone, any overarching plans wrt hosting code? |
23:42.07 | Stanzilla | just not done yet |
23:42.29 | Torhal | nebula169: You can turn on remote hosting for Github and BitBucket at the moment. Locally-hosted repos should be turned on the week after next. |
23:44.30 | Stanzilla | Torhal: you capture the url I'm on when I report something, right? |
23:44.36 | Torhal | Stanzilla: Yup. |
23:44.39 | Stanzilla | ok good |
23:44.43 | znf | you do? cool |
23:45.24 | znf | There. |
23:45.36 | Torhal | You're a goofball. |
23:47.09 | Torhal | nebula169: Anywho, Settings->Source |
23:47.14 | nebula169 | i saw |
23:47.16 | nebula169 | going have webhooks for packaging and such? |
23:47.30 | Torhal | They've been active for WildStar since August. |
23:47.39 | nebula169 | neat |
23:47.50 | nebula169 | wildstar is still alive, eh |
23:47.56 | Torhal | Kinda? |
23:49.56 | znf | is it f2p yet? |
23:50.01 | Stanzilla | yes |
23:50.18 | Torhal | It's actually been more active on CurseForge since then. |