IRC log for #wowace on 20150611

00:04.35TorhalStanzilla: You claim 2020 and then when I make a liar out of you, you give no feedback? Bad Stanzilla! Bad!
00:04.35Torhal>.>
00:04.36Torhal<.<
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00:09.25Repobig-wigs: 03MysticalOS * r13194 Loader.lua: DBM version
00:18.10StanzillaTorhal: I'm going to wait until it's more fleshed out
00:18.28Torhal...
00:18.30TorhalDafuq>
00:19.35Stanzillawhat?
00:19.49Torhal"More fleshed out"?
00:20.13Stanzillamore done?
00:20.18TorhalIt's as fleshed out as it's going to get without feedback. Repositories have to be turned on, and I need to fix like three things with the localization system, but yeah.
00:20.18znfcook it on both sides
00:20.32znfwhat we talkin' about?
00:20.39Torhalznf: beta.wowace.com
00:20.39Stanzillaoh ok, it looked like pretty early in progress to me
00:20.43Stanzilladesignwise
00:20.59znfno, Curse, I don't want a new nickname
00:21.03TorhalThere are some views that need styling, but we're deploying stuff as it gets done.
00:21.27znfuh, shouldn't this be deleted? http://i.imgur.com/APSr6mF.png
00:21.27Torhalznf: It's a "new" site, and some people prefer to have an identity per community. So yeah, it's correct to ask that.
00:21.38TorhalIt is
00:21.45Torhal(Rejected) means only you can see it.
00:21.59znfoh, how cute (and useless), seconds count-down since last active
00:22.12TorhalGo to bed, znf.
00:22.14TorhalCranky fuck.
00:22.15Torhal:D
00:22.28znfwell, it is useless :P
00:23.02Stanzillatimeago.js?
00:23.03znfcan I suggest this tooltip http://i.imgur.com/p4Q0wAs.png to show up when you hover the date instead of the little question mark? (and have the date underline-dashed)
00:23.17Torhalznf: Dude
00:23.35TorhalFuck you. I'm not jotting this shit down as I read it. There's a reason there's a tab to the right of the screen that says "Feedback"
00:23.36Torhal:P
00:23.43znfwhat tab
00:23.49TorhalLook at the page.
00:23.55znfOh
00:24.06znfshit
00:24.10znfdelete that feedback
00:24.16znfI copy/pasted the wrong thing
00:24.28TorhalAhahaha
00:24.32Megalonfeedback the feedback
00:24.45znfhttp://i.imgur.com/OM5ONGS.png
00:24.47znfnow what?
00:25.02Torhalo.O
00:25.17znfI'm going to assume you want feedback for that, too?
00:25.27TorhalWhat the hell IS that?
00:25.33znfI clicked submit feedback
00:26.00znfand it returned some weird html/json monstrousity
00:26.14TorhalThat's awesome. Yeah, that'd be good for feedback.
00:26.24Megaloni added some feedback to znf's userpage to deactivate him
00:26.56znfcan't reproduce :(
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00:29.29znfI broke it again
00:29.50znfhttp://i.imgur.com/NST1vW4.png
00:30.20Semlaris your browser in some sort of dev mode
00:30.50znfSemlar, nah, I have an extension that formats JSON when it detects a non-html document opened
00:30.52Semlaroh, that page is just a string of text
00:31.10Semlaryou probably aren't supposed to be getting sent to that page
00:31.32znfLast month I was laughing at IBM with their JSON-XML monstruosity
00:31.45znfNow I'm wondering whoever thought it's a good idea to send back HTML encoded in JSON http://i.imgur.com/caBwydd.png
00:32.47znfI think Torhal took away the feedback button from me
00:33.01Megalonguess he read my feedback!
00:33.11znfIt's gone from the front page
00:33.34Megalonthe frontpage never had the feedback thing for me
00:33.39znfhmmm
00:35.47znfI think Torhal is a smiley nazi http://i.imgur.com/S85B9dX.png
00:35.48znf:(
00:35.50TorhalMegalon: DOes now
00:36.07Mihau_Perfect.
00:36.09TorhalWeirdo
00:38.43znfTorhal, any reasons why you're showing really old expansions under "recent files"?
00:39.43Torhalznf: That system is revamped in another branch.
00:40.00znfAlso, will repositories actually live on?
00:40.07znfI see they're missing from this build
00:40.49Torhaldestroys znf for his lack of reding comprehension.
00:40.51Torhalreading*
00:40.52Torhal[19:20:11]  <Stanzilla>more done?
00:40.53Torhal[19:20:17]  <@Torhal>It's as fleshed out as it's going to get without feedback. Repositories have to be turned on, and I need to fix like three things with the localization system, but yeah.
00:40.53Torhal[19:20:18]  <znf>cook it on both sides
00:40.54Torhal[19:20:32]  <znf>what we talkin' about?
00:41.01Torhal:D
00:41.02znfOh.
00:41.11znfBut I see the github thingie
00:41.14znfand bitbucket
00:41.31znfwill it auto-hook in some way?
00:41.34TorhalYeah, that's for external hosting. Local repos will still exist.
00:41.37TorhalYup. Webhooks.
00:41.45znfcool
00:42.08znfIs this a sandbox, btw?
00:42.33znfOr is it using the live database?
00:43.44TorhalNo, it'll be wiped. I'm going to do a writeup either tonight or tomorrow to let the general public know.
00:44.05znfso I can safely delete a project, yes?
00:44.10TorhalThis is a 30-day (so far) "Break shit and let us know" beta.
00:44.13znfLet's see what happens :P
00:44.14TorhalYeah.
00:46.06Torhalznf: Do what? "Page list on the project overview section are gone. Users have to dig trough the "pages" menu item to read docs one author could have written."
00:46.13TorhalOh, the sidebar.
00:46.18znfYes, sorry
00:46.40TorhalYeah, I'm not really happy with the new pages system, but I didn't get to weigh in much on that one.
00:47.05znfUhm
00:47.14TorhalIt's REALLY fucking bad here: http://wow-beta.curseforge.com/addons/8025-tellmewhen/pages/api
00:47.16znfThere's a bug.
00:47.24Torhalznf: Hmm?
00:47.49znfif I leave a project as a contributor, it seems that the project gets deleted?
00:47.52znfhttp://beta.wowace.com/addons/34451-dothaste
00:48.08znfOr, I don't know, something?
00:48.10Torhal?
00:48.28znfIt had text and stuff earlier before I left it: http://i.imgur.com/lDd606p.png
00:49.32TorhalOh, you left the project?
00:49.36znfYes
00:49.48znfShouldn't I still be able to see that it's abandoned, comments etc. ?
00:50.16TorhalIm not sure if that's how the current site works or not.
00:50.39TorhalYeah, incognito window shows all that
00:50.40TorhalFeedback it.
00:50.56znfWhat about http://beta.wowace.com/addons/46242-black-market-tracker ?
00:51.15TorhalWhat about it?
00:51.33TorhalIf you left the project, then it's the same problem.
00:51.40znfI didn't
00:52.00TorhalOk, still the same problem. Apparently someone decided "Abandoned" == "Invisible to users"
00:53.23znfmkay, enough feedback
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01:14.35Torhalznf: http://beta.wowace.com/addons/34313-plantaindkp
01:14.44TorhalRecent files look better now?
01:15.11znfsort of, I'd still put the date somewhere else
01:15.21TorhalThat needs styling.
01:15.33TorhalI added the download button and made the filename link go to a details page
01:15.38TorhalPreviously the link just downloaded.
01:15.45TorhalSo when I did that, it jacked the CSS.
01:16.04TorhalIt's on The List.
01:16.22Megalonjacks Torhal up and runs away
01:16.30Semlaro.o
01:16.31Torhalcarjacks Megalon.
01:17.07znfTorhal, I think the release-name should be on the same line as the download icon, then the date under both of them
01:17.28TorhalNot my domain.
01:17.32TorhalI do backend.
01:17.43Semlar;)
01:17.45TorhalThat's why I didn't fix it when I fucked it up :D
01:17.51znfalso, SO MUCH useless HTML there :-|
01:17.56znflike, wth?
01:18.08TorhalWhere?
01:18.21znfthose buttons
01:18.32znfbuttons in divs! many of them :D
01:18.37znfproject-file-name-container
01:18.40znfproject-file-download-button
01:18.44TorhalThat's for CSS targeting.
01:19.04znfI'm just saying that it's not needed. Everything could be simplified :P
01:19.21znfBut, as you said, not your domain
01:19.22Semlaroptimizes torhal
01:19.27znfhands Torhal a stick
01:19.34znfthere, beat the front-end guys with it
01:19.35TorhalHell if I know. I just know enough HTML to make shit kinda work until the front-end guy does his magic.
01:21.03znfCould probably be done inside a single <li class="release"><a href="#button">[v]</a><a href="" class="download">hit me baby</a><span class="date">torhal's birthday</span></li>
01:21.49TorhalI never wanted to be a web dev, so I don't even try to understand that shit.
01:22.02TorhalI've had 20 years to try, never interested me.
01:22.04znfgives Stanzilla a Wiener Schnitzel
01:22.28Stanzillathanks
01:22.32StanzillaI'd eat that right now
01:22.34TorhalBut now I'm writing JavaScript and dealing with AJAX and all that jazz. The markup can be someone else's problem.
01:22.52TorhalIDGAF :D
01:23.36StanzillaI hope you like JS
01:23.45TorhalI don't.
01:23.50znfI kind of like JS
01:23.54TorhalBut it's a "necessary evil" in web dev
01:24.11TorhalWe've mostly transitioned to TypeScript, which is a bit better.
01:24.13znfSure, checking if a variable is unset/undefined is real fun.
01:24.35StanzillaCurse sure is a Microsoft fanboy party :D
01:24.47Torhalshrugs.
01:25.04TorhalAll I know is I was approached at the office one day and told "You're now a C# developer."
01:25.17Stanzillaalways good to know
01:25.20TorhalYup!
01:25.20znfYeah, I cringed when I saw Server: IIS
01:25.21znf:D
01:25.26Stanzilladid you ever do c# before?
01:25.30TorhalNo.
01:25.33Stanzillagreat
01:25.42Stanzilladid you have someone to teach you common practices?
01:25.49TorhalI avoided Windows for about two decades unless it was for games :D
01:26.34TorhalNope. But I'd done C++ in the past, so was familiar with classes and inheritance and the other concepts, so other than lacking multiple inheritance and learning some of the C#-centric things, it wasn't a big deal at all.
01:26.51znfI'll be damned if I can figure out why I can't type ș in Corel Draw
01:26.54TorhalThe big deal was learning MVC and how all this shit interoperated.
01:26.57znfit's the only letter I can't
01:27.09Stanzillawow: http://i.imgur.com/MTQSuNj.png
01:27.09znfI have to type it in xchat and then copy/paste it o.o
01:27.21Stanzillawhere can I give feedback for that page :D
01:27.44TorhalStanzilla: Yeah, I showed that to the team in charge on both Windows and OSX and they couldn't replicate it on ANY of their machines. They did make a ticket for it though.
01:27.53Stanzillaok
01:28.06Mihau_Stanzilla: Is it a specific page or all of them?
01:28.23TorhalMihau_: The main page does it for me.
01:28.26Stanzillaall of them
01:28.33znflink
01:28.38Stanzillahttp://www.curseinc.com/
01:28.39Torhalcurseinc.com
01:28.51Semlarwant a new nickname
01:29.13TorhalMihau_: Interestingly, it only does it in Chrome.
01:29.18TorhalSemlar: Where?
01:29.23Stanzillacurseinc.com
01:29.23znftheir sticky footer technique sucks
01:29.26znfthat's why :D
01:29.26Mihau_Torhal: That explains it.
01:29.30TorhalHeh
01:29.54znfOMG
01:29.59znfOK, this is the funniest thing I saw
01:30.04StanzillaI remember trying to apply to curse in germany
01:30.10znfhttp://i.imgur.com/F9PSU0Q.png <--
01:30.14znf<script> in <div> !
01:30.14Stanzillaand the address listed was wrong
01:30.18znfthe Google Analytics script!
01:30.19Stanzillaand stuff
01:30.43Mihau_znf: The shit AdOps makes us do and we keep saying is bad...
01:30.44Stanzillascript in div is fine?
01:30.56znfit's "fine", but it's... retarded
01:31.09Semlarthe part at the bottom is overlapping because the div that holds the rest of the side has a -155 margin-bottom inline style
01:31.30Semlarside/site
01:31.33znfSemlar, uhm, that's how they're doing sticky footer
01:31.46Semlarsticky?
01:31.47znfnegative bottom margin to force the footer to be at the bottom all time, regardless of content length
01:31.49znfyes
01:32.04znfit's, "intended"
01:32.55Semlarum
01:32.56znfholy mother of long css styles
01:33.22Semlarwell it's the reason the footer is overlapping
01:33.25Mihau_I believe the CurseInc site is using an older version of the sticky version.  Newer versions have been put on other sites.
01:33.39znfbut, what they forgot - from what I remember about this technique, you also need to add a margin-top to #footer for the same height
01:33.40znfie:
01:33.47znffooter#footer { margin-top: 155px; }
01:33.59Semlarit could be set to 0 and display correctly
01:34.13znfadding that fixes it: http://i.imgur.com/cYxKeQD.png
01:34.31Semlaror you could just not have a negative margin
01:34.37znfSemlar, removing it doesn't fix it for me
01:34.56znfbut setting it to 0 does
01:35.06Semlarsetting it to 0 fixes it because it's overriding the -155px in the css
01:35.14znfbut it pushes the bottom of the page by 155px again :P
01:35.21znfresulting in http://i.imgur.com/X3n5Z4d.png
01:35.30Semlarwhich is correct
01:35.41znfnope, mine is correct!
01:36.10Semlarthe footer has a 55px top margin
01:36.18Semlarif you don't want it pushed down then it shouldn't have that
01:36.31Semlarit makes NO SENSE for the main div to have a negative bottom margin
01:37.23Stanzilla'webkitIndexedDB' is deprecated. Please use 'indexedDB' instead.
01:37.24Stanzilla2015-06-11 03:31:06.318 core.js:742 Cobalt.load
01:37.25Stanzilla:D
01:37.38znfSemlar, like I said, it's an old technique
01:37.49StanzillaC:\Projects\Web\Cobalt\Source\Curse.Corp.Web\Content\js\Corp\Corp.js
01:37.50Semlaryou should almost never have a negative margin on something
01:37.50Stanzillaok
01:38.10Semlarunless you want elements to overlap
01:38.20znfbut either solution doesn't make the footer sticky
01:38.44Stanzillaznf: I dont think a sticky footer was intended
01:38.48znfhttp://i.imgur.com/3UPrkYj.png
01:39.00Semlari don't know what you mean by that
01:39.00znfHmmm
01:39.04TorhalStanzilla: Why the are you telling me this stuff?
01:39.08Semlarif you mean the space above the logo, it's because it has a top margin
01:39.18znfSemlar, http://ryanfait.com/sticky-footer/
01:39.20StanzillaTorhal: I'm not :(
01:39.21znfthat's a sticky footer :P
01:39.40TorhalLIES!
01:40.05Semlarthat's not what it even currently oes
01:40.07Stanzillaanyway, Mihau_ can fix the footer now
01:40.07Semlardoes
01:40.13GnarfozStanzilla: yo
01:40.20TorhalMihau_ isn't even on that team.
01:40.22StanzillaGnarfoz: watt is lows mit dir
01:40.26StanzillaHOW WOULD I KNOW
01:40.28GnarfozStanzilla: checkesaus: http://stream.hddf.eu/
01:40.33Gnarfozgeht, oder?
01:40.44Stanzilla...
01:40.52Mihau_I JUST BREAK WIKIS.  D:  WAH.
01:40.52Gnarfoz:(
01:40.53Gnarfozreally?
01:40.57znfGnarfoz's chat window bugs me
01:40.57Stanzillayeah
01:41.00Gnarfozit works for me now
01:41.01TorhalOk, I'm going to go read and maybe pass out. You gents have fun dissecting the corporate site.
01:41.04Gnarfozhow can it still not work for you :D
01:41.08znfworks for me
01:41.12Stanzillaok cleared cache
01:41.15StanzillaI think it works now
01:41.18znfTorhal, leave us the root password
01:41.20znfso we can fix
01:41.24StanzillaTorhal: dont be mad, you will get your feedback soon enough
01:41.29Gnarfozthat's... weird, I didn't change the html or css or js
01:41.36Semlaralso having a footer stay at the bottom of the page looks awful on my vertical monitor
01:41.38StanzillaGnarfoz: #justchromethings
01:41.39GnarfozI guess the m3u8 playlist changed, though
01:41.49znfWHY IS YOUR CHAT WINDOW SO SMALL?
01:42.07Gnarfozsmall?
01:42.08Gnarfozit's huge
01:42.11Stanzillahow do you even see a chat window
01:42.17Stanzillathere is the logo covering it
01:42.19Gnarfozthere
01:42.24GnarfozI removed the logo
01:42.39Gnarfoz(should take about 20 seconds to show up)
01:42.43Stanzillaok znf
01:42.46Stanzillanow tell me how that is small
01:42.59znfit's like 5 lines!
01:42.59StanzillablindboyX
01:43.01Stanzilla:(
01:43.08GnarfozI have it very wide so messages take up 1 line 90% of the time all the time
01:43.08Gnarfoz;)
01:43.20znfhow many lines? >_<
01:43.22Gnarfozit's 11 lines high
01:43.33znfpff, mine is 15 and I feel it's small!
01:43.56Gnarfozanyway, hm.
01:43.58Stanzillamine is 10
01:43.59Stanzillanow what
01:44.02Gnarfozmore testings tomorrow!
01:44.15Gnarfozbut now my server pushes the stream onward to hitbox
01:44.20Gnarfozso both work at the same time
01:44.21Gnarfoz:D
01:44.25Stanzillathat's nice
01:44.52Gnarfoznow I only need to figure out how to get the clappr-rtmp plugin to work (so I don't have to deal with this HTTP live streaming crap)
01:44.58Gnarfozor maybe it's actually better this way, I don't know
01:45.09GnarfozI guess the delay would be smaller with rtmp
01:45.13StanzillaGnarfoz: your guild's homepage is slightly dated
01:45.18Gnarfoztell me about it xD
01:45.33GnarfozI couldn't get them to just put a 302 -> forum there
01:45.52GnarfozI think website admin guy is a phantom, not sure he actually exists
01:46.06GnarfozI think one other person has a working account on the site and they wanted to post a news entry :D
01:46.21Gnarfozguess that's not really a big focus point currently ;)
01:46.39Gnarfozanyway, pushing directly to Hitbox, the delay is very small, only 6 seconds or so
01:46.50Gnarfozit's a lot higher on my own box with HLS
01:47.00Gnarfozapparently it's as long as the HLS playlist is
01:47.18Gnarfoznot sure if that's true, docs on this stuff are weird! :D
01:47.37znfguild websites are outdated
01:47.39znfwe just run a forum
01:47.42znfwell, I run the forum :D
01:47.46znfgood luck to them if I ever go missing
01:48.27Gnarfozsame, same
01:48.45Gnarfozone other guy has admin powers, but he's not raiding with us anymore
01:49.06Semlarare you planning on going missing
01:49.09Gnarfoz(or was, since MoP, so almost none of the current people would know that he might have ZE POWER)
01:49.40znfheck, even the domain is bought by me
01:49.47znfand I can't even log on to the website I bought the domain :D
01:50.33GnarfozStanzilla: I think the trouble might have been that my nginx has 4 workers and I hadn't set the rtmp plugin to actually give all workers access to the stream
01:50.58Gnarfozso it would only work if you, by coincidence, got the right worker to handle your request
01:51.00Gnarfozor something.
01:51.26Gnarfoz(can't REALLY be true, either, since with HLS, they're just files... GAH reverse-engineered closed source mumbo-jumbo!)
01:52.00Stanzillait's time for bed, Gnarfoz
01:52.11znfoh man, I'm almost done with the food part of this menu
01:52.19znfand then I have to make it ready for print
01:52.27Stanzillaguys
01:52.28znfhmm, actually, I should save that for last
01:52.30StanzillaI just realized
01:52.36Stanzillatoday is Orange is the new Black day
01:52.53GnarfozStanzilla: so... time for oitnb
01:52.55Gnarfoznot bed
01:52.57Gnarfozor both
01:52.58Gnarfozwhatever.
01:53.01Stanzilla10am
01:53.07Gnarfozbut yeah... sleepytiems
01:55.29znfCRAP.
01:55.39znfI just realized I forgot to put like 4 pictures :-|
01:55.57znfHmm.
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02:01.54Gnarfozwoah
02:02.02GnarfozI think it works with rtmp now, 1.2 second delay :D
02:03.09Gnarfoznow I have those weird-ass . . .'s again, even though the video is running
02:03.37Stanzillaoh and maybe it's 10pm tomorrow
02:03.38Stanzilladunno
02:03.43Gnarfozmost annoying: since Flash does all the work, I can't use dev tools to analyse it
02:04.13Stanzillaworks for me without ...
02:04.56Gnarfozyeah, I reloaded and they were gone again
02:04.58GnarfozrequestFullscreen() is deprecated on insecure origins, and support will be removed in the future.
02:08.46znfhttp://venturebeat.com/2015/06/10/pornhub-is-crowdfunding-3-4m-to-explore-the-final-frontier/
02:08.47znfwell...
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08:12.09sbso this is getting better - changing cable (house cable multiplier/amp) fixed some of the issues but it seems that the netgear GS108 (NEW!!) + fritz!box also causes packet loss on upload
08:12.19sbGnarfoz, nevcairiel - need good switch recommendation
08:12.39nevcairiel# ports?
08:12.51sb5
08:12.58sb5-8 is fine
08:13.21sbcould buy ubnt...
08:13.48nevcairielI would recommend a HP ProCurve 1810-8G, but its not the cheapest 8 port switch you can get =p
08:14.02sbmeh
08:14.30hastethat's the exact one I have on my desk here :P
08:14.51sbcould this be a problem with "dumb" switches + negationing with the fritz!box? because i replaced the switch (dlink, tplink, netgear) - no effect
08:15.01sbbut if i attach my computer directly to the router - it works fine
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08:24.37nevcairielmhm new chair is awesome, but one problem, its designed for tall people .. which is great .. but apparently my desk  isnt ..
08:24.41nevcairieloders new desk
08:24.59quiescenso.o
08:25.13quiescensthis is going to end up with you replacing everything
08:25.23nevcairielthat aint so bad
08:25.37nevcairieli need more business expenses or my taxes are going to be soo high!
08:29.43Gnarfozsb: what you need it for?
08:30.13Gnarfozjust regular dumb switching?
08:31.22Gnarfozand you have trouble with the regular low-budget offerings like http://geizhals.de/tp-link-tl-sg108-a882498.html?hloc=de ?
08:31.38Gnarfoz(in my experience, they "just work")
08:35.56Gnarfozgah, nginx-rtmp has no option to control the outgoing address when pushing
08:36.13Gnarfozguess it's time to adjust traffic warnings on my main IP address :D
08:39.40WrathTECHIs there a good Lua optimizer? Either online or a windows installer?
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09:04.16sbGnarfoz: http://www.amazon.de/Netgear-GS108-8-Port-Gigabit-Kupfer-Switch-L%C3%BCfterlos/dp/B000092RRM/  / http://www.amazon.de/TP-Link-TL-SG1008D-Desktop-1000Mbps-Gigabit/dp/B000N9B688/
09:04.18sbno worky
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09:04.39sbas in "upload with 2mb/s and you will get ~10% packet loss"
09:04.58sbbut it seems to be internet related
09:05.17sbso if i upload to my NAS (pc -> switch -> fritzbox -> NAS) - no issues
09:05.31sbbut pc -> switch -> fritzbox -> internets - broken
09:06.14sbfb was already replaced - didnt help anything
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09:06.43nevcairielsounds odd
09:07.21sbit is...
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09:14.43Gnarfozsb: how do you figure that your Ethnernet (layer 2!) switches are responsible for this? both of your scenarios have the switch in them, yet one works
09:14.57sbbecause pc -> fritzbox -> internet works
09:15.25GnarfozI'd run iperf across the switch to something on the other side
09:15.52Gnarfozdoubt you'd get anything other than full 1 Gbit/s result, though, layer 2 switching ain't that hard :D
09:16.28Megalonperhaps the switch just hates sb
09:16.39Kalrothaww
09:16.54Kalrothif i was a switch then i wouldn't hate sb
09:18.00sbGnarfoz: 2.5mb/s (full 20mbit) without switch: ping increases to 80-100ms
09:18.28sbbut i'm not able to reach 2.5mb/s with switch - and ping is at 20-40 + ~10% packet loss
09:18.43quiescenso.o
09:19.20Kalrothsounds like it's messing around with duplex or something
09:19.26Megalonthose 10% packets are my mixtape, switch drops them like it's hot
09:19.32quiescenshides some of sb's packets
09:19.54sbKalroth: that would explain why it happens to all "dumb" switches
09:26.26sbalso interesting: 20-20mb/s download (!) doesnt cause any issues
09:26.49quiescens!
09:29.04sbsadly i changed the cabling now to "direct" - otherwise i could test pinging the router and see if this connection is also affected
09:29.10sb(+i'm at work)
09:29.59nevcairieli suppose your fritzbox doesnt have enough ports to take your cable and your GFs? :d
09:31.40sb4 ports, so it would be fine for main pc
09:31.49sb+ 2 switches
09:32.09sbwould be a solution
09:32.16sbbut i want to know whats causing the issue + resolve it for good :|
09:49.03sbGnarfoz: you are the network guy - could it be LSO related?
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10:00.14GnarfozI'm not really! :D znf is probably more of a networking guy than I am
10:00.22Gnarfozfor example: what's LSO? :D
10:00.33znfNot me
10:00.37znfI do servers
10:00.44sblarge send offload
10:00.58Gnarfozwell that'd be in your machine
10:01.04sbyes
10:01.07Gnarfozsure, turn it off, you can probably easily afford the CPU cost
10:01.12Gnarfozfor testing at least
10:01.13sbbut it defaults to enabled for every windows
10:01.28Gnarfozthat's a network driver option, not sure how it can have a default "for windows"
10:01.32sbsome issue with LSO + netgear + fritzbox
10:01.33sbi have no idea
10:01.36Gnarfozunless we're not talking about the same thing
10:01.43sbwell, it is...
10:01.48sbbut its enabeld by default for every driver
10:01.49sbat least intel ones
10:01.52Gnarfozif we are, then we're talking about a TCP thing, which Ethernet switches don't give a crap about
10:01.52sbso meh :D
10:01.59sbthats right :|
10:02.05sband the part i dont understand
10:02.09Gnarfozwork work
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10:10.02quiescenswoek woek
10:10.07quiescensgives Gnarfoz a cookie
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10:37.38sbGnarfoz: http://www.kdgforum.de/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=33364&start=20
10:38.00sb" hängt der Rechner per Gigabit Switch an der Box, habe ich die Lags. Ist der Rechner per WLAN oder direkt verbunden, gibt es keine Probleme und die Gigabit Verbindung ist so stabil wie damals mit der 6360."
10:38.07sbso its fritzbox related :o
10:39.59nevcairielmy fritzbox 7390 is fine
10:40.16nevcairieldoes your fb have a gigabit switch, or 100mbit?
10:40.48nevcairielif its gigabit, you may need to activate gigabit speed in the fritzbox, some cheap switches may not like switching packets between a gigabit and a 100mbit link
10:41.01sbthats the first thing i activate
10:41.11sbits 1 GB, 100M ("Green") 2-4 as default
10:41.19sbbut i changed it to gbit on every port
10:42.54nevcairielthose guys in that thread say that limiting the port to 100mbit can avoid the problem
10:44.13sbokay - new play is: 1 switch, NAS, my + gf PC directly at fritzbox and change switch port to 100mbit, everything else 1gbit
10:44.37nevcairielif your internet doesnt exceed 100mbit, then limiting the fb to 100mbit also doesnt harm
10:44.52sb200/20!
10:45.03nevcairielnoone needs that speed anyway!
10:45.18nevcairielalso its cable, you dont get that reliably =P
10:45.34sb(also, only paying for 200/10, they provisioned 200/20 when they actiavted dual stack - maybe they have only 1 200mbit dualstack config :D)
10:45.57sboh, the download rates are awesome, wow install runs perfectly fine with 23mb/s
10:46.07nevcairielnow back to figuring out how i can get my desk 10cm higher until my new one arrives
10:46.21sbbooks!
10:46.54nevcairieli thought about that, probably going to try magazines, as i have plenty of those and can average out the height better
10:47.33nevcairielOld ct's to the rescue!
10:48.05nevcairielneed to get the stuff off the desk first though, its kinda heavy with all my shit on it
10:53.54Megalondamn nev, ain't you got no toilet or what, disgusting :<
10:56.18sboh... didnt get your reference to Megalon, thought it was some "cts are only near the toilet" thing :D
10:56.23sb(which is true!)
10:56.58Megalonmakeshift toiletpaper?
10:57.46sbnah
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11:09.02nevcairielah much better
11:09.07nevcairiel8 cts under every leg
11:15.25nebula169aaa/ach
11:15.29nebula169whoa
11:36.21winkMegalon: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHNUu-xVIAAuNPK.jpg:large
11:36.41sbis wow only 1119 and 3724?
11:36.52nevcairielpretty much yes
11:37.00nevcairieldownloader uses some more ports
11:41.37Megalonwink: lol
11:57.45nevcairielsie wollen ihren brand löschen, nodnod
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12:07.47Gnarfoznevcairiel: c't is good for something in 2015, good to know :D
12:08.08Gnarfozsb: are you configuring an outbound firewall? if not, you don't need to open any ports for it, tbh
12:08.24nevcairielits old ones from 2011 even!
12:08.35nevcairieli should throw t hem out when they are done being desk legs
12:08.51GnarfozI let my subscription expire in 2011 or 2012
12:09.19nevcairieli had mine until late 2013 or so
12:09.21Gnarfozand when my room was re-painted shortly before I moved out, I threw out a 4 m high stack of c'ts :(
12:09.44nevcairieli threw out most of them when i moved out from my parents house
12:09.45Gnarfozamazingly, half the height was contributed by only the oldest 2 years or so
12:09.55Gnarfozthey used to be quite a lot fatter than they are these days
12:13.17Gnarfozsb: fwiw, my 7362sl (or whatever its name is) works fine with basically the same setup: fritzbox -> tp-link gbit switch (the one I linked earlier) -> pc
12:13.58nevcairielthe thread he linked makes it sound like its a fail in that particular fb, or at least that series
12:15.21sbor firmware
13:08.53sbsaruman is dead :(
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13:38.47pompyif anyone's every used Xfire http://www.overclockersclub.com/news/38859/
13:42.15nevcairielsb: he was 93, i would say he had a good run
13:42.29sbnevcairiel: yup, didnt realize he was that old
13:42.36sb(movies were 10 yeare ago, right?)
13:43.00nevcairielfirst was released in 2001
13:43.43Megalonand not like he had a boring life haha
13:43.44nevcairielfilming ended in december 2000
13:44.42Megalon"the 90s were last decade, right?" -sb
13:46.50sbMegalon: go away!
13:49.18Megaloni am the terror that flaps in the night!
13:52.45pompyhttp://www.ustream.tv/nasahdtv
13:54.19Torhalreplaces Megalon's firmware with a tac-tac-toe game.
13:57.12pompy~lart Torhal
13:57.12purlpushes the wall down onto Torhal whilst whistling innocently
13:57.17pompylol
13:57.18Megaloni am the weirdo who sits next to you on the bus!
13:58.54Megalonmhm pompy, i wanna grab some bottles and throw them into that, haha
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14:20.52bluspacecowi have spotted a pelican. how majestic
14:23.00Semlar<PROTECTED>
14:26.39Torhaltags Semlar through the nostril for tracking purposes.
14:27.05Semlar<PROTECTED>
14:28.00nevcairielwe should have more pelicans, get rid of them damn pigeons
14:29.00bluspacecowhttps://vine.co/v/OE0MzOagjFP
14:55.24nevcairielmmm the Gigabyte GTX 980 Ti looks mighty fine, with its built-in OC its a monster of a card
14:56.58nevcairieldidnt you want to buy one Stanzilla
14:57.59Semlarcan you make a slash command to show a secure frame
14:58.22nevcairielyou can probably /click one frame that then shows another?
14:58.34nevcairiel(or itself)
14:58.37Semlarwell, i mean a slash command other than /click
14:58.43Semlarlike a custom slash command
14:59.05nevcairielDon't think so, but i'm sure if you conspire with foxlit you can figure something out
14:59.49Semlari was just wondering if you could show/hide your own secure frame in combat via slash command or if you had to actually get the person to click something
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15:36.46bluspacecowquiescens: i can has blankie
15:37.28Repobig-wigs: 03Ironi88 * r13195 HellfireCitadel/Socrethar.lua: timers for Socrethar the Eternal
15:49.11Stanzillanevcairiel: I was thinking about it, yeah
15:49.23Fiskernever lucky Stanzilla
15:50.00Stanzillanevcairiel: are the prices final now?
15:51.02Fiskerwhat price?
15:52.15Stanzilla980ti
15:55.17Kalrothhttp://www.geforce.com/hardware/geforce-gtx-980-ti/buy-gpu this final, Stanzilla?
15:55.29Stanzillawell that is US
15:55.47Stanzillafrom what I see on the german amazon it looks like they settled on 750 euro
15:56.03Kalrothsure, so add 20% VAT to it :)
15:56.28Kalroththat's ~€700
15:58.17Stanzillaand the gigabyte one is 820
15:59.05Kalrothhttp://www.nvidia.de/object/geforce-gtx-980-ti-de.html# down to €719 seems to be the suggested retail price
15:59.14Kalrothit looks fairly official
16:00.26Stanzillaindeed
16:01.46StanzillaI think nevcairiel was talking about the one with their own cooling system though
16:01.52Stanzillanot stock
16:03.34Kalrothyeah, it's also listed there
16:03.40Stanzillaye
16:04.03Stanzillabut amazon does not have it yet
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16:37.33quiescenso.o
16:37.39quiescensgives blu a blanket
16:40.03Torhalfeeds pompy to quiescens.
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16:50.28bluspacecowyay!
16:50.31bluspacecowi has blankie!
16:50.40Torhalfeeds bluspacecow's blankie to quiescens.
16:50.56bluspacecownooooooooooo
17:03.52Stanzillagta v in the summer sale
17:03.54Stanzilla23 euro
17:03.54Stanzillawtf
17:05.50Funkeh`wow
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17:22.12FiskerWhat summer sale?
17:23.20winkit's going doooooooown
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17:26.01Brad_MIs it possible to withdraw an addon version that has been released? Skillet 3.00 and Skillet 3.01 appear to have serious issues (which I can't reproduce).
17:30.52Semlarno take-backs
17:31.28Semlaryou can upload another version
17:32.05Semlaror get torhal to delete it
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17:38.17TorhalOr delete it yourself from the project page.
17:39.20Semlarthat requires like ten clicks
17:39.58TorhalAnd "Die Semlar" is 10 characters.
17:40.14TorhalIf I add a period, that is.
17:40.15Semlaron a related note can we address the fact that it takes a dozen clicks to get to a screenshot on curseforge
17:40.16KalrothDas Semlar*
17:40.34TorhalSemlar: Certainly. wow-beta.curseforge.com
17:40.55Semlarif i want to see a full sized image i have to click a thing and then click another thing, it's out of hand
17:41.01FiskerHey Torhal
17:41.07TorhalHey Fisker
17:41.09TorhalStab Semlar>
17:41.09FiskerHey
17:41.10FiskerNo
17:41.11Torhal?
17:41.13TorhalOh, ok.
17:41.15Semlarhey fisker
17:41.16pompyhttps://downdetector.com/status/comcast-xfinity/map/ dat outage map
17:41.18FiskerKill Semlar
17:41.22Semlarno!
17:41.23FiskerHey Torhal
17:41.28Kalrothdont kick the baby
17:41.30TorhalHey Fisker
17:41.32TorhalMaim pompy?
17:41.41FiskerNope
17:41.46pompyhm
17:41.47FiskerKiss pompy
17:41.51Torhal!!!
17:41.53Kalrothaw
17:42.00bluspacecowbut Semlar
17:42.03KalrothNow kith.
17:42.05bluspacecowDROPBEARS!
17:42.07bluspacecowRUN!
17:42.14Semlarthere is nowhere to run
17:42.46bluspacecow*dies*
17:42.51Brad_MIf I delete the versions on the Wowace project page, will Curse revert back to the last remaining released version?
17:43.04TorhalOnce it syncs over, yeah.
17:43.32Brad_Mbut any alpha versions in SVN will remain, correct?
17:43.51TorhalYou're deleting a zip file, not repository history.
17:45.47Brad_MCan you give me instructions (or a pointer) on how the create a branch in SVN? I want to withdraw 3.00 and 3.01 and then move some of the smaller fixes in those versions into 2.81+.
17:46.56TorhalI haven't used SVN in at least five years, and even when I did I never made branches.
17:47.11Torhal:/
17:47.54Brad_MWould moving to GIT make it any easier?
17:49.12TorhalGit's designed for doing branch work, actually.
17:50.03Brad_MI guess a better question is how will the wowace project builder handle branches.
17:50.15TorhalIt doesn't.
17:50.19TorhalOnly works on the main branch.
17:50.48nebula169and tags
17:51.13Torhal...on the main branch.
17:51.32pompySteam servers go boom
17:51.35TorhalThough tags are a different beast on SVN, so...
17:51.40Torhalpompy: Of course, Summer Sale.
17:51.46pompyindeeed
17:51.49nebula169tags are just tags in svn
17:51.50pompythis monster game better be cool
17:52.07pompyToday’s special deals were unlocked by the community who completed yesterday’s milestones. Play the Monster Summer Game <http://steamcommunity.com/minigame/> and complete today’s milestones to unlock more deals for tomorrow.
17:52.29pompyhttp://i.ytimg.com/vi/nB2tk8TJarQ/maxresdefault.jpg
17:52.39nebula169pretty sure if you tag a branch, it'll get packaged
17:52.53Brad_MThen I think that answers my question... I'm stuck reverting the main branch to the old code base and then reintroducing the changes hopefully without breaking something I can't reproduce ;-)
17:53.41pompyhttp://cdn.pcgamesn.com/sites/default/files/gabewallet.jpg
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18:18.57Brad_MTorhal, I need your help! I deleted 3.0, 3.0-nolib, 3.01, and 3.01-nolib files on wowace. Curse updated alright, but to 2.52beta instead of 2.80 release.
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18:20.46TorhalBrad_M: I'll ping someone about it.
18:21.06quiescensblah
18:21.10quiescenso.o
18:21.16quiescensgoto sleep
18:22.15Torhaloffers pompy a chocolate-covered quiescens.
18:22.31Brad_MTorhal, can you send me a pm on wowace (bsmorgan) when it is fixed (or declared hopelessly broken), please.
18:22.47TorhalYeah, when I hear back on it.
18:23.07Brad_MThanks!
18:23.09Fisker.prizeminigame
18:23.12Torhalnp!
18:23.17TorhalHey Fisker
18:23.19TorhalSummer Sale?
18:23.21Fiskerhey Torhal
18:23.28Fiskernope
18:23.48Torhalhey Fisker
18:23.52Fiskerhey Torhal
18:23.53Torhal¯\(°_o)/¯
18:24.17TorhalHeyorama?
18:24.24Fiskerhey everybody
18:25.37znfwhat
18:25.40znfnow I have to do more shit?
18:25.43znffor the summer sale thing?
18:26.07quiescenswhat are you doing?
18:26.12FiskerYou don't have to do anything znf
18:28.15quiescensoh good
18:28.16quiescenssales
18:28.17znfwell, thsi doesn't seem to be working
18:28.31Torhalsells quiescens to znf at a discount.
18:28.42znfthis shit ain't workin'
18:29.00TorhalNo refunds, znf.
18:29.50quiescens):
18:31.04Fiskertime to hack  Stanzilla
18:31.46Torhalhands Fisker a band saw and a hatchet.
18:33.15FiskerWhy doesn't it work Stanzilla ?
18:33.56bluspacecowYou need chewing game
18:34.02bluspacecowcaramel flavoured
18:34.29znfpwned servers :(
18:34.32znfrekt servers
18:34.34znfetc
18:35.14Fiskerthey tried
18:36.28znfso it's like multiplayer cookie clicker
18:38.59znfI also joined Stanzilla's game!
18:39.46quiescenso.o
18:40.25znfc'mon Stanzilla
18:40.29znffix the game!
18:41.07quiescensthis does not appear to be woeking as well as it is intended to
18:42.18Fiskernever lucky
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18:46.38znfit works, sometimes https://gfycat.com/GleefulEnormousIberianmole
18:47.17Gnarfozwanna watch us fail? Kromog this time!
18:49.04znfFisker, call me when the servers start breathing
18:50.22Stanzillahi
18:50.49FiskerNo
18:55.35znf1mil people already playing :D
18:55.37znfwell
18:55.38znf"playing"
19:03.46Gnarfozplaying what?
19:04.13GnarfozStanzilla: any idea when that "can do turn-by-turn navigation" version of Google Maps is going to appear for mortal people?
19:04.32Stanzillano idea
19:05.04quiescenso.o
19:05.07quiescensdoesn't everything have it?
19:07.30Gnarfoz"everything"?
19:07.41quiescensturn by turn thingy
19:09.10Stanzillanow that I think of it, I'm pretty sure I used it last year or so
19:09.21Stanzillaor are you talking about the offline version, Gnarfoz
19:09.31Gnarfozthat's the same version
19:09.37Stanzillano?
19:09.38Gnarfozoh...
19:09.44GnarfozI somehow elided that particular part.
19:09.56GnarfozI meant the "can do turn-by-turn while offline" version
19:10.01Gnarfozthat was announced during I/O
19:10.06Stanzillaah
19:10.08quiescenso.o
19:10.09Stanzillawell that can take a while
19:10.12quiescenssilly foz
19:10.32quiescensleaving out entire words is silly ):
19:11.07znfoh man, so many tards on /r/steam :(
19:11.12znf"hurr durr, give more servers"
19:11.28znfif stuff would scale like that...
19:11.52Stanzillareddit is unusable atm anyway
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19:20.03Torhalznf: https://twitter.com/notch/status/609064337098047488
19:22.36Parnicvalve should know by now how terribly their servers handle these sales. then to add an interactive game to it?
19:22.54Parnicgood job sonny
19:23.16TorhalI blame Fisker, Parnic.
19:23.30Parnici'm sure he's involved
19:23.32znfwhoever had the brilliant idea of having 1000 slots/game was... :D
19:23.33TorhalI bet he logged in and heyed everyone.
19:30.17Semlarhey torhal
19:30.31Torhalhey Semlar
19:30.34TorhalLynching?
19:31.52Semlarmy netflix trial expires in 3 days :(
19:32.18TorhalHere, Parnic - in case you hadn't seen (since I haven't put out an announcement yet) http://beta.wowace.com
19:32.33Parnici had not seen. neat.
19:33.09Parnici need to push a superfluous new version of my addon to get my rewards share back up. i was at 80/day a month ago, at 30/day now :P
19:33.18Parnic(disclaimer: i wouldn't actually do that)
19:37.29Torhal:O
19:49.16bluspacecowhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ff0z1t-Poa8
20:03.39Reposkillet: 03bsmorgan * r456  (14 files in 3 directories): Skillet:
20:03.39Repo- Revert to 2.80 + cosmetic changes
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20:27.33Brad_MTorhal, I figured out how to get SVN to create a new revision from an old 2.80 revision. I've updated Skillet.toc, Skillet.lua, and one other file as r456 but the packager hasn't run in the last 30 minutes.
20:28.50Brad_MIf I can get r456 packaged, I can tag it as 2.81 and that should fix the Curse problem.
20:30.33Funkeh`so are people macroing clicking for the steam summer game, or are there going to be a lot of people with RSI
20:38.30Stanzillait's javascript
20:38.32Stanzillago figure
20:42.59quiescensmoo?
20:51.46Gnarfozmeow
20:55.49nevcairielMmmm carbon nanotube non-volatile memory at DRAM speeds
20:56.04nevcairielI wish it was 5 years from now
20:56.33nevcairielAll the good tech is on the horizon now but only coming later :(
20:58.50Stanzillahey nevcairiel
20:59.00Stanzillawas I right in assuming you were talking about the windforce edition?
20:59.36nevcairielThe Gaming G1 yeah
20:59.44nevcairielGh.de lists prices and even stock
21:00.58Stanzillaneed amazon though
21:02.55nevcairielNeed patience then
21:04.13Brad_MIs there anyone here that can "kick" the wowace packager?
21:04.23nevcairielTorhal
21:04.56Brad_MI don't think he's "really" here :-(
21:05.35Gnarfozhe's *unreal*!
21:07.02nevcairielSpeaking of unreal, the latest news on UE4 really look nice, exploiting many dx12 things for awesomeness
21:08.41nevcairielLike multi gpu rendering, use the built-in Intel gpu for a neat performance boost
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21:32.12Reposkillet: 03bsmorgan * r457 SkilletData.lua: Skillet:
21:32.12Repo- Add Draenor Alchemy Transmutes to ignore list.
21:32.12Repo- Add shift-click on crafting NPCs to open Blizzard Tradeskill frame.
21:38.16Stanzillaindeed
21:41.21Stanzillaif only w10 wasnt such a shit fest and I could actually look forward to installing it
21:42.37nevcairielI do look forward to it
21:42.56nevcairielThats what you get for running betas, spoiled it for ya!
21:45.26Stanzillawhy spoiled, I have a good overview of all the changes and know to expect
21:45.30Stanzilla*what
21:45.58Stanzillaand I can guarantee you that the initial release will be buggy as hell
21:46.20Stanzillaespecially everything around modern apps
21:46.48nevcairieli dont use them now, i wont care if they break then =P
21:47.05Funkeh`https://www.reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/39gzqb/developers_who_raised_their_price_then_slapped/
21:47.24Stanzillanevcairiel: you will have to
21:47.27Stanzillaeven the start menu is one
21:47.29Stanzillaso yeah
21:47.40nevcairielAnyway, people really shouldnt presume to knoiw the exact state of the OS based on the test builds, which are probably weeks old when they get posted
21:47.58Stanzillathey're not anymore
21:48.11Stanzillayou can see the compile date and the last compiled version of every branch online
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21:50.42nevcairieleven then, integration branches (ie. things builds are made from) are just by themself usually quite old, as integrating all the changes takes time on a project of this size
21:52.18nevcairielin any case, we will see in about 6 weeks
21:52.20nebula169Funkeh`: why are people crying about that, it's not like they're raising the discounted price, it's pretty normal for sale prices to be compared to the msrp
21:52.26Stanzillapartners get winmain builds :p
21:52.31Stanzillaand yeah we will
21:58.11Stanzillanevcairiel: did you only read up about the G1 or are the other manufacturers' OC cards equally good?
21:59.56nevcairieldunno, the G1 cooler is pretty good
22:00.12Stanzillayeah
22:00.34nevcairielin lack of other t ests, you could compare the tests of the custom cooled 980's, the coolers are pretty mcuh the same
22:00.44nevcairielASUS and MSI are probably fine
22:03.27Stanzillameeeh amazon only has stock coolers for any vendor
22:09.13nevcairielman the new paladin set looks terrible :D
22:09.24Stanzillaall of them look shit imo
22:09.30nevcairieli kinda like the druid set
22:09.37Stanzillatrying way to hard to get fancy and therefore using too many materials and colors
22:09.39Stanzilla=> clown
22:09.54nevcairieldruid set is pretty simple color wise
22:10.14nevcairielthe pvp variants look a bit funky, but what do i care
22:11.02nevcairielnormal-mode priest also looks ok, heroic and mythic are kinda bad though
22:13.12nevcairielagain no off-set shoulders with the druid look though, so no mythic look for me :(
22:13.26nevcairielalways monk or rogue on the leather off-sets
22:14.32nevcairielin fact usually both
22:15.26Funkeh`I like how it makes you leave your current steam minigame before telling you that you can only join games that are not more than 10 levels above you
22:15.58Funkeh`so now everything has reset because I "left" my game and got given a mesage that I can't join the game I was trying to join!
22:19.24znfmy team is lvl10
22:20.58Funkeh`same
22:21.05Funkeh`I tried to join a game that was lvl 19
22:21.12Funkeh`which last I checked, 10+10=20
22:21.17Funkeh`so that *should* be allowed
22:21.50Funkeh`so it kicked me out of my game *before* checking if I could join the new game, and then prevented me from joining it even though it's within the threshold
22:24.12nevcairieli just get an error trying to click play
22:25.53Reposkillet: 03bsmorgan 042.81 * r458 : Tagging as 2.81
22:25.54Funkeh`I joined the game again because I have friends in it
22:25.59Funkeh`so I'm at level 10
22:26.10Funkeh`unfortunately it reset all my stats and gold, so, fuck it :p
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22:26.51nevcairieljust keeps erroring out on me, oh well, i usually ignore those shitty games during sales anyway, why should this time be any different
22:28.02znflvl11!
22:28.13znfhttp://i.imgur.com/QAiQCFf.png
22:28.37Funkeh`lol wtf
22:29.20Funkeh`nevcairiel, if you care about the whole badge stuff you need to be in a game to level it, it levels according to the highest level your game reaches
22:31.00StanzillaI'm 20 now
22:31.05znflvl13
22:31.08znfhow are you 20?!
22:31.11znfwe were in the same game :-|
22:31.16Stanzilladunno?
22:31.49Stanzillajust bought advanced targetting #3
22:31.52Stanzillathat shit is crazy
22:34.35znf15!
22:34.53znfno
22:34.56znfcrazy is x6 fire :D
22:36.47znfraining gold is awesome :D
22:37.36StanzillaI specialized on water
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22:44.08znflvl18
22:50.04znfow :(
22:50.06znfI died
22:51.05TorhalFunkeh`: Did you see that the beta sites are up?
22:53.01znfhttp://i.imgur.com/Tf9Q6Ub.png
22:53.01znfO.O
22:57.26nevcairieleither this game is f'ing buggy, or i just dont get it
22:57.40nevcairieli sit there and suddenly i die, without any indication or whatever
22:58.02znfservers stopped working now
22:58.03znfat least mine
23:03.16nevcairielseems extremyl broken right now
23:05.38znfit was going so well :(
23:05.41znfwent to lvl19 :(
23:05.49znfoh, we're 20 now! :(
23:08.25nebula169Torhal: beta for what?
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23:08.57Torhalnebula169: http://beta.wowace.com and http://wow-beta.curseforge.com
23:09.07nebula169oh fancy
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23:21.46nebula169seems silly there are still two different project sites
23:22.37nevcairielkeep the curseforge peasants out of wowace
23:22.44nebula169lol
23:23.09nevcairielback in the good old days we moved all the crap looking projects to CF when they applied
23:23.28nebula169yea, i mean i understand the origins of it all
23:24.34nevcairielThe CF skin looks better though, the wowace skin has so many fails .. trying to put many elements still in CF colors onto a wowace themed background, just looking terrible
23:24.41Repoclasstimer: 03stanzilla 042.3.60100.2 * r439 : Tagging as 2.3.60100.2
23:25.25StanzillaI really thought it's not worth giving feedback in such a early state
23:25.34Stanzillabut it's not early at all from what I got
23:25.38Stanzillaso dunno
23:25.40Stanzillalooks crappy :<
23:26.01Torhalnevcairiel: Styling isn't complete for wowace
23:26.53TorhalActually, isn't complete at all. There was no concept of skinning until Kaelten insisted that WowAce didn't look like another generic CurseForge site.
23:27.17TorhalSo our frontend guy is having to go through everything so each site can skin things its own way.
23:27.39TorhalWe're actively iterating All The Things during the beta.
23:27.44nevcairielgood for him, those guys need to be kept busy, or they start experimenting with too many crazy JS frameworks
23:27.52TorhalHahaha
23:28.05nebula169it's more than just frameworks now, it's supersets of js
23:28.32nevcairieli havent had a frontend guy to drive me crazy for a year now or so, i'm not up to date!
23:29.15TorhalBut yeah - this is why some of the views (like the user profile) have weird shit like black text on a blue background; he hasn't gotten to that yet.
23:32.22TorhalStanzilla: No, a Maintainer does not have the power to manipulate members on a project. You're a moderator, man.
23:39.30Stanzillawell
23:39.33Stanzillashould have maybe
23:39.47Stanzillaalso you are scary, reading my feedback so fast :<
23:40.09TorhalNah, that's up to the project owner. Whom, by the way, will have the ability to give that permissions to anyone on the team.
23:40.22Stanzillaok that sounds sane
23:40.56StanzillaTorhal: are you just getting emails with that stuff or is that entered in some bugtracking software?
23:41.23TorhalI actually had the page open, and after you said something about feedback I hit refresh :D
23:41.49Stanzillaso it's a tracker
23:41.55nebula169noticed all of the repo views/settings are gone, any overarching plans wrt hosting code?
23:42.07Stanzillajust not done yet
23:42.29Torhalnebula169: You can turn on remote hosting for Github and BitBucket at the moment. Locally-hosted repos should be turned on the week after next.
23:44.30StanzillaTorhal: you capture the url I'm on when I report something, right?
23:44.36TorhalStanzilla: Yup.
23:44.39Stanzillaok good
23:44.43znfyou do? cool
23:45.24znfThere.
23:45.36TorhalYou're a goofball.
23:47.09Torhalnebula169: Anywho, Settings->Source
23:47.14nebula169i saw
23:47.16nebula169going have webhooks for packaging and such?
23:47.30TorhalThey've been active for WildStar since August.
23:47.39nebula169neat
23:47.50nebula169wildstar is still alive, eh
23:47.56TorhalKinda?
23:49.56znfis it f2p yet?
23:50.01Stanzillayes
23:50.18TorhalIt's actually been more active on CurseForge since then.

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