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01:08.02SemlarStanzilla: i think i tried to write something for someone that skipped it and decided it wasn't actually possible
01:08.20Semlarthe dialog is some kind of prompt that casts a spell in response to accepting it
01:09.56Semlari guess the closest thing would be covering the screen with the accept button
01:11.04Stanzilladarn
01:12.08Semlarthere'
01:12.37Semlars no way to integrate the click that opens the dialog and clicking the accept button
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01:40.23quiescensmoo?
01:46.47Semlaroom.
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07:09.15sbmorning
07:12.09sbStanzilla: you should write a pastewhatever with recommended plugins :D i'm also interested ;)
07:15.16Stanzillasb: I was only to suggest some basic stuff to make her lua work easier
07:15.22sbah, i see
07:15.23Stanzillabut I can just screenshot you my list ofp lugins
07:15.54Stanzillawell meh, not that much stuff as I used atom more recently
07:16.09Stanzillaa linter, whitespace tool, betterlua, laravel/blade lang plugins
07:16.25sbusing it for ~1 year now but still have some issues - tab list grows :D
07:16.29Stanzillaand the git integration by Kemayo_
07:16.33sbafter 1 week i have ~1000 open tabs
07:16.40Stanzillasb: in atom?
07:16.43sbsublime
07:16.45Stanzillaah
07:16.55sbn++ asks to close/save on exit
07:17.06sbsublime just leaves them open - so i dont close them :D
07:17.26sbis atom usable now?
07:18.29sbi'm at 0.138 :D
07:19.26sb(why do you use it instead of sublime?)
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07:48.08Stanzillayeah it is
07:48.26Stanzillaand I've just come to like it, the community is great, plugins too
07:48.55Stanzillaalso I report a lot of stuff that's going wrong so it gets fixed, my usual hobby :D
07:52.12sb:D
07:52.26sbrecommended plugins?
07:52.34sb(for lua + php dev)
08:07.16StanzillaLinter, autocomplete+
08:07.20Stanzillaautocomplete-php
08:07.41Stanzillaand all the linter + autocomplete plugins for the languages you use
08:07.52Stanzillaminimap, sublime-tabs
08:08.03Stanzillathose are the basics I guess
08:08.05nebula169so basically turning it into sublime
08:08.36Stanzillanah, the way  it works is that the communiy implements features as plugins and those get eventually implemented into the main app
08:09.14Stanzillasublime-tab for example does the thing where you select a file view in the tree view and only spawns a temporary tab so you dont clutter up your tabs
08:09.20Stanzilladouble click to make it temporary
08:09.42Stanzillaautocomplete+ also is the future implementation of the basic autocomplete package
08:10.24winkI tried the ms code thinh last week
08:10.35winkeither atom is better now or they polished it a lot
08:10.42winkwhen I tried atom a while ago I hated it
08:12.07StanzillaAtom is still rather new
08:12.22Stanzillathe main work went into getting the ground work done
08:12.26Stanzillalike atomshell/electron
08:12.50Stanzillathe updater (squirrel) and making it fast(usable in this case)
08:13.00Stanzillahow stuff is compiled, linked etc
08:13.32Stanzillabut stuff is getting there, 1.0 is in a week
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08:14.00Stanzillams code uses a lot ot their stuff
08:15.43StanzillaI use it in tandem with sublime atm
08:22.39sbwink: same - thats why i'm asking :D
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08:44.52sbStanzilla: how to update apm? :|
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08:55.10Stanzillasb: just update atom?
08:55.14sbnvm. choco upgrade did it
08:55.48Stanzillawhy is your apm separate?
08:56.05sbi think apm uses my old choco atom version
08:56.14sbbut i installed a new atom from the website
08:56.50sbstupid software
08:57.02sbchoco installs atom 0.174
08:57.20sbhttps://chocolatey.org/packages/Atom
09:02.14FiskerSo?
09:06.00sbFisker: its old!
09:06.23FiskerSo?
09:24.45Stanzillasb: yeah I think they stopped maintaining when squirrel was usuable
09:46.25StanzillaI dont think that chocolatey and those apt-get concepts will be a success anyway ever
09:48.58Fiskersquirrel?
09:51.10GnarfozStanzilla: indeed,  they're very foreign to Windows
09:51.35FiskerIt's going to be the greatest success sorry
09:52.15Stanzillathe only thing where it works is oneGet for VS packs
09:52.26winkitem get!
09:52.48winkI should hook up apt to play the sound, really
09:52.51GnarfozPS: get-item
09:53.15Megalonget-item food?
09:53.37quiescenso.o
09:53.39Gnarfozpossibly
09:53.43Gnarfozwink: which sound
09:54.06winkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvHHkloYPQE
09:54.10winkwhat else?
09:54.34Gnarfozno idea, that is labeled "get item"
09:54.59Gnarfozalso, that sounds like NES, I never had one of those
09:55.04wink*sigh*
09:55.08Gnarfozconsoleros, ugh
09:55.26FiskerShould I go to the stores for survival Stanzilla ?
09:55.35GnarfozPC Master Race since 1984
09:55.38Stanzillaprobably
09:55.41Stanzillaget some drugs
09:55.50winkhttp://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ItemGet
09:55.59FiskerWhy drugs?
09:56.10Gnarfozyeah, I googled before I even asked wink, and that page does a splendid job of NOT EXPLAINING the meme
09:56.21winkit's not a real meme
09:56.26Gnarfozhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Portable_Personal_Computer < it was actually a laptop :D
09:56.29Gnarfozfor sturdy laps
09:56.48winkGnarfoz: it may be that the original translation was just bad and had item get instead of get item
09:56.55winkbut it's been called like that for aaages
09:57.06Megalonthe legend of zelda is indeed the original NES version, *foz
09:57.18FiskerI solved problems in my vacation Stanzilla
09:57.36GnarfozI think one of my primary school buddies had Zelda II for their NES
09:57.40FiskerCitrix XenApp is a jerk
09:57.44Gnarfozwhich was the sidescroller thing
09:58.00Megalonthat's adventure of link
10:00.42Gnarfozyeah
10:01.03GnarfozI wonder why I get "could not connect to Google" on my Play Music tab :(
10:01.05Gnarfozall the time
10:01.09Megalonit was ahead of it's time
10:01.15Megalonsleeping with woman to regain health
10:14.32sbStanzilla: package install is broken for me
10:14.52Stanzillaprobably because of your choco stuff
10:15.18sbnah
10:15.22sbmissing tons of stuff
10:15.37Stanzillaprobably because of your choco stuff
10:15.44sbhttps://haste.sbuehl.com/efoqikemosupayaruvexehiputebot
10:15.50sbit has "gyp" in it
10:16.13hasteI should really ignore highlights from that url :P
10:16.24sb:D
10:16.32sbi could remove the e!
10:16.33Stanzilladunno
10:16.34Stanzillau broke it
10:16.46hasteI'd go for hb probably :D
10:16.51Stanzillawhy not bin.sbuel.com anyway
10:17.08sbcould be proxy related
10:17.24Megalonis there no .en tld? ;<
10:17.33sbwhy? :D
10:17.37sb:)
10:17.39Megalonbin.sbuel.en
10:17.42Megalonh3h3
10:17.43sb....
10:17.45Megalon8(
10:17.46nevcairielhaha
10:18.08nevcairielbut no, that doesnt exist
10:18.44nevcairielno country that matches that, apparently
10:23.05Megalonsucks
10:24.25Megalonbtw sb
10:24.28Megalony u not .sb
10:47.46Stanzillamegalon.sucks
10:54.35nebula169getting abathar+ murky in a game is so annoying
10:54.57nebula169basically 3v5 for most of the game
10:56.38znfAbathur rules if you know how to play it right :D
10:56.47znfhas more wins with Abathur
10:57.28nebula169can't nerf him fast enough
10:57.34znfthey already did
10:57.35znflast night
10:57.39znfhttp://i.imgur.com/FQ5sF23.png
10:58.02nebula169oh really? still have him tunnelling into base and seige bugs aren't in tower attack range
10:58.10nebula169literally like 30 min ago
10:58.17znfmaybe they haven't pushed it yet?
10:58.19znfnot sure :P
10:58.34znfThat strategy was cool as fuck. Had it in a game against me. Took me a while to realize what was happening
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11:04.10Gnarfozwhy the fuck won't these iDRACs not accept my password change?! >:-[
11:08.28Gnarfoz"derp default password in place!" *changes* *tries login* "you moron, that's not a valid u/p combination!" *tries default login again* "hey, default password in place, wanna change it?!"
11:11.42znfthreaten it with the microwave oven
11:18.27GnarfozI just might
11:26.29sbStanzilla: https://github.com/atom/apm/issues/322#issuecomment-96430856 fixed it
11:28.55Gnarfozsb: can you try playing a radio station and skipping ahead a song?
11:29.04Gnarfozsb: doesn't seem to work currently :(
11:29.58sbyup, doesnt work
11:41.29sbyay, atom crashes on ctrl+s :D
11:42.07winklol
11:42.16winkit's faster in ram anyway, sb
11:42.32GnarfozJIT editor
11:42.37Gnarfozno saving
11:42.46sbhttp://i.imgur.com/BtGYuEF.png
11:42.47sbok :o
11:43.00sbthis seems to work
11:43.02sbnot bad
11:43.41sblinting seems to be fast
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13:14.46nebula169atom has no folding, eh
13:15.28nebula169oh, nm
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13:31.27FiskerMorning Ressy
13:32.36Ressymorning
14:02.41Gnarfozasdasghasd;gklj
14:03.01Gnarfozdisabling tab suspender extension while tabs are suspended: tab genocide
14:03.15winkthat's a nice password
14:03.20winkvery hard to type
14:04.11Gnarfozsb: does skipping on radio work for you again?
14:20.01Gnarfozsb: it's the offical Google Play Music extension that does the breaking
14:29.30Gnarfozznf: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/automatic-smart-driving-assistant?mode=guest_open hmm
14:30.28znfYeah... no.
14:30.36winkcant' you just wire mechanical rturk to your car?
14:30.36znfNot that simple. A lot of cars don't output much info on standard OBD2
14:30.45winkhere's a map - shall I go left ort right?
14:31.01znfBMW for example doesn't output much on that protocol. They use their own protocol, but with the standard OBD connector.
14:32.40winkwhat idiot called it "Russell Tyrone Jones' penis" and not "ODB connector"?
14:33.12znfwhat?
14:33.35znfwink, that's not what it is for - it just outputs information to your phone (like mileage, rpm, torque etc.)
14:33.39znfbasically, it's crap :P
14:34.08winkyou clearly did not get the joke!
14:37.40znfWhat does this look like to you, Gnarfoz? https://www.dropbox.com/s/edyon18ulaj420l/2015-05-11%2016.34.50.jpg?dl=0
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14:58.07Gnarfozznf: a disaster waiting to happen? no idea
14:58.21znfThink it's an audio filter
14:58.44Gnarfozand yeah, I'm aware that OBD2 was created so regulatory instances like TÜV could grab some info from the car while doing their bi-yearly checkups and stuff
14:58.53Gnarfozand most cars will only output rudimentary stuff there
14:59.07Gnarfozthat's why I linked it, I find the product description to be outlandish and misleading
14:59.13znfindeed it is
14:59.15Gnarfozsince that thing is going to work on maybe a handful of models
14:59.50znfI played around with an AutoCom interface, that thing is full of relays and according to the car you select in the software, it switches pins around
15:00.02znfYou can hear it going clink-clink when you change the car type :D
15:00.15znfSo, it's not even pin compatible with most cars' custom protocol
15:15.53StanzillaXuerian: BetterLua still not in packagecontrol? :(
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15:38.46Gnarfozznf: yeah, they just use some of the additional pins on the connector, lol
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17:50.09Repoepgploot2: 03adrinael * r106  (3 files in 1 directory):  (2 lines trimmed from commit message)
17:50.09RepoFix specialization detection
17:50.09RepoRemove erroneous dependency to EPGPReserves
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17:51.18Repoepgploot2: 03adrinael 04v3.04release * r107 : Tagging as v3.04release
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19:07.43Stanzillaso a guy walked into our store today, completely devastated
19:07.55Stanzillahands my dad his lottery ticket "just check it"
19:08.12Stanzillaevery number matched, 90million euro checkpot
19:08.27FiskerHappening Stanzilla
19:08.29Stanzillaplot twist: he did not play his ticket for this week because he wanted to save some money
19:08.40Fisker:/
19:09.37Gnarfozthey kept "kill the boy" but killed Barristan before "Then come", ughh
19:09.39Gnarfoz:D
19:10.11Fiskerhttps://plus.google.com/106863399005331374209/posts/8cyudEi8fdF
19:11.22Stanzillayeah I saw
19:15.00GnarfozStannis grammar naziing like a pro
19:16.28ArrowmasterGnarfoz: and since we dont have a jon covington now mormont will be the next untimely death
19:16.51Gnarfozconnington you mean?
19:17.22Arrowmasteryes
19:17.32Megalonfewer, *foz
19:17.36Megalon;<
19:19.56GnarfozRamsay is way too nice
19:26.44Torhalgives Gnarfoz some crazy meds.
19:27.03Megalonyea he should had reek suck him off
19:27.05Megalonwhat a wuss
19:32.03Gnarfozmuahaha
19:51.20Stanzillashowtime Fisker
19:51.31Stanzillahttps://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#volantislmy47x
19:51.49Fiskerota me
19:52.23Stanzillahttps://dl.google.com/dl/android/aosp/volantis-lmy47x-factory-3efdc8d4.tgz
19:52.25Stanzillano ota yet
19:52.31Megalon#volantis wtf
19:52.39Stanzillahttps://android.googleapis.com/packages/ota/google_flounder_volantis/5cb0c6254e487f66c25478c8c11bff7975af669e.signed-volantis-LMY47X-from-LRX22L.5cb0c625.zip
19:52.42Stanzillaor there Fisker
19:53.44Fiskerilu
19:54.24FiskerJust need like adb without installing android studio and shit
19:55.31GnarfozArrowmaster: well, Mormont got what Tyrion gets in the books, so... :|
19:55.48Gnarfoz(although they might reveal that Tyrion also got it, I doubt it, though)
19:56.12StanzillaFisker: nexus root toolkit
19:58.44Fiskerfunny how my account was made admin and most of it worked but not all of it
19:59.50Stanzillaaccount where?
20:00.54FiskerAnd happening
20:01.13FiskerMarzenia's computer
20:05.34FiskerNo brickeroni pls
20:07.51StanzillaFisker: oh are you visiting DB atm?
20:07.56FiskerBiggest ota itc
20:08.04FiskerI'm watching his cat
20:08.11Stanzillalol what
20:08.20FiskerHe's in Disney world
20:08.34Stanzillayou went to sweden to watch his cat?
20:08.43FiskerYes?
20:08.54Stanzillaok
20:09.05FiskerIt's a sweet cat
20:09.59Fiskerwow
20:10.06Fiskera loading bar on the bootloader? That's a first for me
20:29.06StanzillaFisker: how's performance?
20:32.44Repoweakauras-2: 03Stanzilla 042.1.0.3 * b30fccd /: [new tag]
20:43.42FiskerSeems to be better but then again it probably needs some uptime before we see it
20:45.16ArrowmasterGnarfoz: tyrion didnt get it i thought, connington got it saving tyrion
20:45.44Gnarfozwell, he keeps checking himself for nothing, then
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20:48.53ArrowmasterGnarfoz: internet seems to say he never got it
20:52.54StanzillaGnarfoz: http://swiftkey.com/en/blog/what-makes-clarity-keyboard-tick-clojure/
21:41.00Stanzillanevcairiel Funkeh` any of you hands in the sharedmediadropdown widget for ace3?
21:41.07Stanzillait needs the nowrap flag on the dropdown strings
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22:24.23StanzillaWe’re looking to disable permanent Crowd Control in an upcoming content patch to create more interaction with monsters at higher Greater Rifts levels. To complement that change, we will be also be evaluating how much damage monsters are dealing to players in that environment. One of our goals in the next major patch is to provide a more consistent Greater Rift experience while making sure that def
22:24.27Stanzillafinally
22:25.12nevcairielno more CC-docs?
22:26.21nevcairielits unfortunate that many classes couldn't do anythign in higher GRs without being able to CC near-constantly though
22:29.48Stanzillayea
22:31.48Stanzillathe whole concept of unavoidable dmg is shit
22:31.50nevcairielimho D3 also needs to somehow tune the gear progression scale .. these days you get 95-99% of all your gear like in the first few days of playing, and then you could play weeks for tiny incremental improvements, which ultimately ends up not being super rewarding because it takes ages to find something cool again
22:32.01Stanzillalet's hope that's what they meant in the second part
22:32.36Stanzillayeah tehre were are few good suggestions on how this could work
22:33.00Stanzillalike alkaizer suggested that when you wear all ancient versions of set pieces you need one fewer item to get the set bonus of it
22:33.07Stanzillawhich opens up one slot and a lot of options
22:34.06nevcairielI was practically bored after one week into this season, since I had all the essential items in decent rolls already, and finding the perfect ancient weapon was the only thing to play for
22:34.38Stanzillapretty much yeah
22:34.51Stanzillabut it's insane what ancient on every slot gives you on paper dps
22:35.28Stanzillaso that really is the next step but it's kinda boring because it's actually the same item with double rng (ancient+good rolls)
22:35.33nevcairielof course, but hunting for decent ancients of the same item on every slot is also an immense time investment, the curve just isnt very nice
22:35.37quiescensteh problem with nerfing cc is that its going to be a fine line between cc being useful, and just making it so that everyone goes for pure damage
22:35.40quiescenso.o
22:37.10nevcairielyou get your sets so fast these days that you can farm T6 and say GR40 without any serious effort, thats a couple days into a season, maybe a week with bad luck. After that, it just takes waaaay too long to find upgrades
22:37.41nevcairielmaybe they should add something similar to ramaladnys gift thing, which can turn a normal item into ancient
22:38.18nevcairieljust an added incentive that makes you actually be happy when you find it
22:38.29StanzillaFunkyDude
22:38.29Stanzillanow owns 24 more games
22:38.32Stanzillabig haul
22:39.29Stanzillawell you have other goals too
22:39.34Stanzillalike levelling gems and paragon levels
22:39.41Stanzillaparagon levels are the "safest" upgrade anyway
22:40.10nevcairielsure, but its just not very "exciting"
22:40.42Stanzillayeah well
22:41.18Stanzillathat's how diablo always was though..apart from the fact that you had other stuff to farm in addition to gear
22:41.21Stanzillalike charms in d2
22:42.07nevcairieland thats fine, i'm just saying it should maybe be a little more rewarding after you found your sets on non-ancient
22:42.46nevcairielfinding all that in just a few days and farming GR40 solo 3 days after creating your char, but then finding not a single upgrade for days .. its just a steep change
22:43.28Stanzillayeah I was just trying to find someting that could be a reward
22:43.41Stanzilladid you read my google doc about d3 challenge modes?
22:45.20nevcairieli think so
22:45.33nevcairielthe randomness of GRs can be annoying
22:45.52nevcairielwe've often wondered how long those people making world records have searched for the perfect rift
22:46.04nevcairielapparently there is also hack-tools that just tell you how good your rift is once you entered
22:46.47Stanzillawell it's just good old turbohud that tells you the mobs etc
22:46.56Stanzillabut yeah if you watch those guys doing high grifts on steam
22:46.58Stanzillathey go in
22:47.09Stanzillafirst mobs are shit, run around a bit => still shit => log out => repeat
22:47.11Stanzillaallll the time
22:47.17nevcairielAll of my rifts seem to have excorcists and horrors
22:47.23Stanzillayeah same :D
22:47.27Stanzillaor BOGAN TRAPPERS
22:47.34nevcairieldont get me started on those
22:47.43Stanzillahate them so fucking much
22:47.50nevcairieltheir big friends also arent very nice
22:47.55Stanzillayea
22:47.57nevcairielthey charge you from offscreen and instagib you
22:48.20nevcairielso many terrible mobs
22:48.22Stanzillamobs that charge are the bost on a wizard
22:48.28Stanzillawaiting for meteor impact, charge, bye
22:48.54Stanzillacan do 0 dmg to them
22:49.18nevcairielat one point I thought they changed charging mobs to at least not off-screen-charge you anymore
22:49.25nevcairielbut i died to that a couple times already =p
22:49.31Stanzillathey did, just not all of them
22:49.40nevcairielprobably just the act1 beasts
22:49.41Stanzillaangels got changed afaik
22:50.08nevcairielangels are still evil, especially that angel rift boss
22:50.29StanzillaI had the best combo once, the rift guardian that has diablo's abilities
22:50.35Stanzillaon the tunnel network map
22:50.41znfturbohud is amazeballs
22:50.46Stanzilla=> 2 clones all doing his beam
22:50.51Stanzillacan't hide from that in those tunnels
22:50.58nevcairielno wonder znf likes hack tools
22:51.16znfI /once/ played without it
22:51.17Stanzillahe still does not get stuff done in d3 though :D
22:51.19znfhorrible
22:51.25znfnot like I play with it much :P
22:51.27nevcairielsomehow i never minded the diablo-esque boss
22:51.27znfor, rather
22:51.31znfnot like I play the game
22:51.40quiescensi still don't like how you can see "up" like 2-3 times further than you can see "down"
22:51.50Stanzillanevcairiel: it's only bad if you cant dodge the beam
22:51.51nevcairielbut erethon, the charging angle ... you cannot avoid his damn charge, and on like 45+ it just instagibs
22:52.11Stanzillanevcairiel: followers that stun can interrupt the charge btw
22:52.31Stanzillanevcairiel: watch that, it's super interesting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wU8gZi_N8UQ
22:52.35znfI honestly can't figure out why twitch is so popular
22:52.39znfthe video quality is so crappy
22:52.44znfI can't stand watching it
22:53.36nevcairielStanzilla: we had him in a 4man we did with support classes etc, and while I survived his charge as the tank crusader, our dps'ers just always died .. its just very very hard to be fast enough to evade his charge, its silly
22:53.56Stanzillayeah no follower in 4m too
22:54.31nevcairielthe silly part with him is, as long as his charge doesnt one-hit you, he is harmless
22:54.38nevcairielonce that changes, he is impossible
22:54.40nevcairielbut oh well
22:54.55Stanzillaunavoidable dmg..
22:55.31Stanzillawell I guess this doesnt count as that
22:55.52nevcairielalso a favorite, a ghom-guardian in act3 catacombs rift, and he is too fat to get through d oors, so you cannot kite him away from his poison clouds
22:57.14Stanzillahaha yeah
22:57.28Stanzillaso glad I got a good mara's on my DH now
22:57.34Stanzilla100% CDMG!
22:57.35nevcairielwhen you can kite him, he isnt too bad
22:57.46nevcairielbut if he gets stuck, you might as well give up!
22:58.04nevcairielshould find a decent poison immune amulett
22:59.23Stanzillathat's mara's
22:59.30znf...seriously, who was that who bought all the Amazon UK gift cards? >_<
22:59.38znfI want a filthy 10GBP gift card :(
22:59.42Stanzillaprobably Funkeh`
22:59.58znfI'm guessing they don't restock often
23:00.06znfoh, cool Order 18499 for 1 x $100 Paypal Order was fulfilled.
23:01.45znfAlso, the fuck is wrong with my bank? http://i.imgur.com/m3WD9fA.png
23:02.22nevcairielfees?
23:02.54nevcairielhm, bnet wants an update
23:02.56nevcairielrestarts
23:03.02znfhttp://i.imgur.com/fjyMycT.png
23:04.16znfnevcairiel, isn't paypal considered a "POS" payment?
23:04.36nevcairielyou are a POS
23:04.47znfThat's actually what the statement say "Cumparare POS"
23:05.17nevcairielhow paypal works depends a bit on your countrys laws
23:06.18nevcairielaynway time so sleep
23:08.28Stanzillann
23:08.30StanzillaFisker: https://android.googlesource.com/platform/build/+/android-5.1.1_r2
23:14.02znfI'm still not getting it. I accepted the exchange of paypal, and paypal charged me in RON instead of EUR (that's ok). Why did my bank send 225€ instead of 978 RON when PayPal asked 978 ron? :-|
23:14.03znfthe fuck?
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