IRC log for #wowace on 20150419

00:18.34Reponpcscan-overlay: 03Torhal 07master * 6.1.2.2  (2 files in 2 directories): [+3 commits]
00:18.35Repod10242b: Store and update CurrentMapID, instead of relying on error-prone name-to-ID lookups. Fixes minimap overlays in certain Outland zones.
00:18.35Repo68e757d: Since we're doing math on the return values, make sure private.GetMapSize() returns 0 rather than nil.
00:18.35Repo40721e8: Minor reorganization.
00:18.50Reponpcscan-overlay: 03Torhal 046.1.2.2 * 4a07095 /: [new tag]
00:48.04Stanzillalicks Torhal
00:49.18MysticalOSTorhal, get on PTR and add the new rares in tenaan
00:49.56TorhalMysticalOS: Maybe some other time. I'm sick, so it was fortuitous that I even just did that push. :D
01:06.13Stanzillapets Torhal
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02:07.10Reponpcscan-overlay: 03Torhal 07master * 6.1.2.2-2-g4daa745  (2 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits]
02:07.10Repo4daa745: Cleanups on accessing global variables/functions.
02:07.10Repo454ef05: Minimap_Toggle => NPCScanOverlayMinimap_Toggle because what the actual fuck was the purpose of giving a global function such a generic name?
02:45.33Reponpcscan: 03Torhal 07master * 6.1.2.1-3-g9372b7e  (3 files in 1 directory): [+3 commits]
02:45.33Repo9372b7e: More cleanups for globals.
02:45.33Repo80d597e: Cleanups for private.CheckDelay(), and removed dead code.
02:45.33Repo258e73b: Changed pairsByKeys() to be a local function. Minor miscellaneous cleanups.
02:52.24quiescensd3 needs to stop dropping helltooth set ):
02:55.48Stanzillaoh you are playing again
02:55.51StanzillaWD this time?
02:56.36quiescenstrying a seasonal wd
02:56.43quiescensi've been playing on and off o.o
02:56.52quiescensi'm not on your region, silly stan
02:59.55Torhalwanted a region-free quiescens, but nooooo.
03:00.30quiescenso.o
03:05.17Stanzillathat is correct, quiescens
03:05.38StanzillaI still have my non seasonal crusader in the us though
03:33.57quiescensi never really got why you made a character just to test a patch for 1 day o.o
03:45.48Stanzilla:D
03:46.07StanzillaI'm not in the sane team
03:47.00quiescensgives Stanzilla a cookie
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04:13.31Reponpcscan-overlay: 03Torhal 046.1.2.3 * b344d1d /: [new tag]
04:13.31Reponpcscan-overlay: 03Torhal 07master * 6.1.2.3 Modules/Minimap.lua: [+1 commit] Don't change the map's zone while the map is open. Fixes ticket #48.
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05:33.13TorhalStanzilla: WAT. http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/npcscan-overlay#c1031
05:36.36Trelao.o
05:36.49TorhalPretty much.
05:38.08quiescenso.o
05:48.02StanzillaTorhal: cloudflare says "no" atm
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06:14.06quiescensmoo
06:16.20Fiskerhey Stanzilla
06:16.21Fiskern9?
06:16.28Stanzillanop
06:19.37bluspacecowhey Fisker
06:19.44TorhalStanzilla: Should be OK now.
06:19.53bluspacecowhay Torhal
06:20.05TorhalNo hay here, bluspacecow.
06:20.17bluspacecowy not?
06:20.23TorhalThis isn't a farm.
06:20.35bluspacecowbut your a horsie
06:21.03StanzillaTorhal: that sounds crazy
06:22.55quiescensgives blu a cookie
06:22.58StanzillaFisker: I lulzed https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/332hq2/just_bought_a_fake_galaxy_s6_ama_i_want_to_get/
06:23.01TorhalStanzilla: He said it did it "occasionally" anyway before the _NPCScan.Overlay update, so yeah.
06:23.16StanzillaTorhal: I blame blizzard
06:23.25quiescenswhat did blizzzard do now
06:23.32Stanzillaor some addon that just hooks everything, like elvui
06:23.58TorhalFUCK ElvUI.
06:24.33bluspacecowmein gott does ElvUI hook all the things ?
06:24.35bluspacecowbadly ?
06:26.25TorhalElvUI gives zero fucks about anything but ElvUI.
06:26.57TorhalThey do batshit stuff that will never play nicely with anything else, then tell the users who complain to bother the authors of the AddOns they break.
06:27.13quiescensmaybe its so good that its users don't need any other addons
06:27.50TorhalSomeone a couple of months ago posted a ticket on ARL saying it doesn't work properly with ElvUI. I don't give a fuck. It's been working just fine for years with all kinds of other stuff without issue.
06:28.54TorhalTheir willful breakage and lack of concern just pisses me off.
06:29.03quiescenso.o
06:29.58quiescens~soothe Torhal
06:30.02purlACTION exerts a calming influence on Torhal
06:30.06quiescens\o/
06:30.13quiescenspats purl
06:32.25StanzillaTorhal: lots of spam on the wowace forums btw
06:33.30TorhalEvery fucking night.
06:33.33TorhalI blame Kaelten.
06:33.34Torhal>.>
06:33.41bluspacecowTorhal
06:33.45bluspacecowwanna make out ?
06:33.58TorhalNo, bluspacecow.
06:35.00bluspacecow:(
06:35.12bluspacecow~project MasterPlan
06:35.13TorhalOk, spam is gone.
06:35.20Repogathermate2_data: 03kagaro 04v26.0 * r418 : GatherMate2_Data: Data update
06:35.22Torhal@ping
06:35.27bluspacecow~describe MasterPlan
06:35.29bluspacecow~ping
06:35.29purl~pong
06:36.05quiescenspats purl
06:41.34bluspacecowman those comments on the MasterPlan addon page ….
06:41.49bluspacecow“oh noes the author changed the sort menu so now its useless to me change it back”
06:41.57bluspacecowpretty bloody lippy for free software mate
06:43.25TorhalYou've never noticed that users, by and large, are in need of a good kick to the pants?
06:43.42bluspacecowcan I make it come out their mouth ?
06:43.54TorhalI'm unaware of your capabilities, bluspacecow.
06:45.39Stanzillahe does plenking
06:47.05bluspacecow|=======================O
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06:51.26Torhal@project masterplan
06:51.27RepoTorhal: Project "masterplan" was not found.
06:51.31Torhal@project master-plan
06:51.31RepoTorhal: [WoW] Master Plan (Updated Apr 13, 2015 at 12:56 UTC) - https://www.curseforge.com/addons/master-plan/
06:51.38Torhal@help
06:51.39RepoCheck your private messages, Torhal.
06:52.19bluspacecowoh they’re redoing parts of the Mission - related UI code on the PTR
06:52.24bluspacecowso MP R broken :(
06:54.27quiescens):
07:49.49Executionerhttp://wow.gamepedia.com/UIHANDLER_OnEnter
07:49.55Executionermotion parameter, what's that there?
08:07.28bluspacecownap tiems
08:25.27ExecutionerOkay, I get the weirdest bugs
08:26.16ExecutionerI wrote an eventhandler, and when the events are fired, they are just true (yes, boolean) instead of their actual names (which are strings)
08:26.56nevcairielyou probably just messed up some arguments somewhere
08:28.09Executionerthat's my guess too, except I only give a frame, and a string which runs all functions from a table corresponding to the frame and event, nowhere any booleans or numbers
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09:10.40Fiskerhey nevcairiel
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09:38.19Kalrothfisker did you preorder the GTX 980 Ti yet
09:39.07Fiskerno Kalroth
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10:01.54Executioneruh
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11:45.44Repobad-boy: 03funkydude * r1298  (2 files in 1 directory): anti-spam update
11:46.00Repobadboy_guilded: 03funkydude * r242 BadBoy_Guilded.lua: filter more ads
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12:36.39Executionerhttp://screens.executioner1337.net/line.png why does this line have jagged edges? It's not the texture, same result using Interface\\BUTTONS\\WHITE8X8 and blank one. Frame is independent from UIParent and its scale is set to 1 (3 on screenshot)
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13:13.14Fiskermorning Ressy
13:16.13Ressyhi
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13:49.05Repobig-wigs: 03funkydude * r13058 Core/BossPrototype.lua:
13:49.06RepoBossPrototype: Fix regression when trying to register for "*" in boss modules (entirely broken), from r11763, which was improvements to error messages for invalid :Log args.
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15:26.53Repobigwigs_classic: 03funkydude * r61 AQ40/Viscidus.lua: Viscidus: Fix hit counter.
15:27.51Repobigwigs_classic: 03funkydude * r62 AQ40/Cthun.lua:
15:27.51RepoCthun: Comment out giant eye timers which seem random now (or broken).
16:04.22Fiskerhey Torhal
16:04.45Torhalhey Fisker
16:04.49TorhalBaguette?
16:04.54Fiskernope
16:11.46pompyhey Torhal
16:12.54Torhalhey pompy
16:12.56TorhalFlamingos?
16:14.11pompyyes
16:35.13GnarfozStanzilla: did the "if you implemented the POODLE workaround, you'll get no Windows updates" situation ever get resolved by MS?
16:36.37Funkeh`on windows server?
16:36.52Gnarfozno, desktop
16:36.52StanzillaGnarfoz: dunno, never used it
16:37.14Funkeh`the "workaround" for desktop would be disabled SSL3
16:37.34Gnarfozindeed, the workaround is specifying a custom ciphersuite list
16:37.44Gnarfozwhich apparently makes WU unable to talk to the WU servers
16:37.51Funkeh`or just disable SSL 3
16:38.05Gnarfoz...
16:38.07Funkeh`which a windows update will do, if not already done
16:38.08Gnarfozthat IS how you disable SSL3
16:38.13Funkeh`nope
16:38.15Gnarfozyes
16:38.24Funkeh`cypher selection has nothing to do with protocol selection
16:38.30Gnarfozuhm.
16:38.32Gnarfozyes, it does
16:38.39Funkeh`le sigh
16:38.43Funkeh`open your control panel
16:38.48Funkeh`type in internet options
16:38.49Gnarfozmaybe we're talking about different things
16:38.51Funkeh`go to advanced
16:38.55Gnarfozthat's for IE, gj
16:38.57Funkeh`disable ssl 3 protocol
16:39.01Funkeh`no, it's for the system
16:39.05Funkeh`IE uses the system settings
16:39.48Gnarfozgreat, and when did I ask about IE?
16:39.56Gnarfozit's about configuring SChannel to not use RC4 or whatever
16:40.15Funkeh`any software using the system settings will use those settings
16:40.18Gnarfozthere's been so many SSL/TLS issues in so short a time, I'm losing track of which is which
16:40.21Funkeh`and RC4 has nothing to do with the protocol
16:40.25Gnarfozyeah, you're not on the right track regardless.
16:40.26Funkeh`you can use RC4 on SSL 1 fine
16:40.34Funkeh`err, TLS 1
16:40.37Gnarfozyou can use RC4 nowhere fine
16:40.59Funkeh`poodle is an ssl3 issue
16:41.07Funkeh`I don't understand your stuborness
16:41.09Gnarfozmaybe POODLE was the wrong one, then
16:41.18Gnarfozbecause I know what the hell I did and it's not in IE options!
16:41.37Gnarfozit's the workaround offered by MS themselves, so stop insisting I'm looking at the wrong thing, damnit
16:41.38Funkeh`yeah well, what you did, or what you were recommended to do, was more than what you needed to do
16:41.48Funkeh`which was simply disable SSL 3
16:41.50Gnarfoz...
16:42.13GnarfozIE has nothing to do with this, there is more programs using SChannel, and "Internet Options" is not the place to control SChannel
16:42.23Gnarfozor why is the cipher list option not THERE as well?
16:42.49Funkeh`look man, they either use the system provided API for secure communication, which OBEYS the internet options, or they use a custom implementation like OpenSSL
16:43.05GnarfozI'm wasting more time trying to convince you I'm talking about something else apparently than trying to fix the actual problem, so I'll just stop
16:43.27Funkeh`my point is simply revert what you did, and disable SSL 3
16:43.31Funkeh`that's you safe from poodle
16:43.45GnarfozI'm possibly not even talking about Poodle, I already said
16:45.13Funkeh`so what are you talking about
16:51.56Funkeh`doing some searching it seems to me you are talking about poodle (although you've been misled to think you need to tweak the cypher priority, which considering your incorrect responses so far is unsurprising) there's people that recommend a custom cypher in order to PRESERVE SSL3 functionality. If you don't need it, the BEST fix is to disable it, and not fuck around with your cypher suite
16:51.58quiescenso.o
16:52.23quiescensit sounds kind of funny watching everyone talk about poodles
16:52.34nevcairielthe workaround Gnarfoz is talking about was for FREAK
16:52.38Funkeh`well like naming things funny
16:52.49Funkeh`people* like
16:52.53GnarfozI've been misled by fucking Microsoft's own security people then, if you insist
16:52.58Torhaltransforms quiescens into a FREAK POODLE.
16:53.02quiescensdies.
16:53.42nevcairielTo mitigate FREAK, MS suggested to disable RSA key exchange with group policies, which gives you a WU error
16:53.43Gnarfozand I hate Chrome for not finding the appropriate page in my history
16:53.57nevcairielit has nothing to do with POODLE
16:53.58GnarfozFREAK? maybe it was that! :D
16:54.07Gnarfozfucking trend of naming security issues something
16:54.34Gnarfoztechnet is worthless when it comes to versioning
16:54.50Gnarfozno way to differentiate if an article is talking about win 2003, NT4 or 2012
16:54.50nevcairielthere is a heise article on it, find your own english sources =P http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Freak-Attack-Hotfix-legt-Windows-Update-lahm-2570391.html?wt_mc=rss.ho.beitrag.rdf
16:55.36Gnarfozright, export ciphers
16:56.10GnarfozFunkeh`: https://technet.microsoft.com/library/security/MS15-031#ID0EDMAE < workaround
16:56.59Gnarfoznevcairiel: do you know off hand if by now I can just safely remove the custom list?
16:57.00Funkeh`It's surprising that EXPORT cyphers are used on SSL 1, if that is indeed the case
16:57.17Funkeh`TLS 1*, fucking names
16:58.49Gnarfozdo you have any sources on Internet Options affecting other SChannel users besides IE?
16:58.56Gnarfoz(not that I have sources to the contrary)
17:00.03Funkeh`well the fact that you can change what cyphers SChannel uses by changing the *system* cypher selection means that any changes in your internet options will affect it, and SChannel doesn't use a custom implementation
17:00.28Gnarfozwhut?
17:00.37Gnarfozthat sentence doesn't compute
17:00.46GnarfozIE uses SChannel, not the other way around
17:01.37Funkeh`the other way around would be SChannel using IE, which isn't what I suggested
17:01.44Funkeh`I don't understand why you're bringing up IE at all
17:02.04Funkeh`IE uses the system defined settings, which is what you access via the control panel
17:02.21Gnarfozhave you *looked* at what kind of options are in "internet options"?
17:02.30Gnarfozthose are IE options
17:02.30Funkeh`which is why IE couldn't use TLS 1.1/1.2 until it was actually implemented in the OS in vista/7
17:02.44Funkeh`yes, it also has IE options, because it's called "internet options"
17:02.50GnarfozI don't know why you insist that they're some magical system-wide settings, they're just in a CPL because they're MS's
17:02.53Funkeh`it is misleading, but I didn't design it
17:03.06Funkeh`becuase they are "magical" system wide settings
17:03.51Funkeh`that's why you find your proxy settings in there, which firefox also uses, because they are system wide
17:04.02Gnarfozgood example: you're wrong
17:04.07GnarfozFirefox only uses them if configured that way
17:04.15Gnarfozand for the longest time didn't even offer that option
17:04.19nevcairielchrome always uses them, firefox has its own settings afaik
17:04.38Funkeh`oh sorry, chrome
17:05.05GnarfozI very much doubt they just apply
17:05.19GnarfozChrome very likely reads the values from where they're stored and acts accordingly
17:05.28Funkeh`I gtg now, have fun doubting
17:05.31Gnarfozeasy proof: random program without proxy support
17:05.44Gnarfozthey should use the settings because they're system-wide?
17:05.54nevcairielof course you have to use them, it doesnt magically proxy everything
17:06.37Gnarfozso they're IE's settings and you're free to use them if you want
17:08.07Gnarfozshame nearly nobody uses SChannel, it'd be easier to check what's actually happening ;)
17:08.26nevcairielthats because SChannel API is terribly complex :(
17:08.45Gnarfozbtw
17:08.50Gnarfozmy IE opions have SSL3 enabled
17:08.57Gnarfozyet, https://zmap.io/sslv3/ shows that it's disabled
17:10.10quiescenso.o
17:13.45StanzillaGood News! Your browser does not support SSLv3.
17:13.47Stanzilla= )
17:15.00quiescens\o/
17:19.23nebula169Gnarfoz: just because the toggle is there doesn't mean it has to be implemented by everything that uses those settings
17:19.43Gnarfoznebula169: you don't say?
17:20.03nebula169you're the one that said it o.O
17:20.05GnarfozI'm not the one saying those are system-wide settings affecting everything that uses SChannel
17:20.29Gnarfoz(or proxies, which really has no bearing on the other thing)
17:20.32nevcairielthe cypher settings through the group editor probably do
17:20.43nevcairielgroup policy editor*
17:24.24Gnarfozbest evidence:
17:24.45Gnarfoz(this is going to take a moment ^^)
17:25.11quiescensgives Gnarfoz a cookie
17:29.43Gnarfozhttp://imgur.com/a/i6X6K#0
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17:32.27Gnarfozthat's pretty clear IMHO
17:35.16znfinstructions unclear
17:37.19Gnarfozye
17:37.21Gnarfozapparently!
17:39.12Gnarfozanyway, gotta reboot to undo that workaround
17:59.33Funkeh`<Gnarfoz> so they're IE's settings and you're free to use them if you want
17:59.46Funkeh`yes, I suppose it's my fault for not making that clear
18:00.03Funkeh`they are considered system settings in the sense that, that's what software will use
18:00.29Funkeh`it isn't like a system wide overwrite
18:01.52Funkeh`If you disable SSL3 there and you have software using that API, it won't be able to use SSL3, at least to my knowledge
18:02.13Funkeh`but every browser implements its own method anyway
18:02.57RepoUpdated wiki entry: Repositories / SSH Public Keys - http://www.wowace.com/wiki/repositories/ssh-public-keys/
18:04.01RepoUpdated wiki entry: Repositories / Repository FAQ - http://www.wowace.com/wiki/repositories/repository-faq/
18:39.14GnarfozFunkeh`: \o/
18:43.10quiescens\o/
18:46.19Gnarfozaugh, my Sunday evening caffeine withdrawal headaches are here
18:46.31Gnarfozand they're mean
18:49.04hastetime to stop drinking coffee in other words
18:53.28Gnarfozno, time to start drinking it on the weekend, too
18:53.30Gnarfoz;p
18:55.28znfdamn it, had to increase varnish memory from 8gb to 12gb
18:55.29znf:-/
18:57.38Gnarfozznf: be happy, your site is popular
18:58.00znfI think I did a terrible mistake
18:58.02Gnarfozwell, or it's crappy and could be redone using 10% of the resources
18:58.09znfI swapped from MyISAM to InnoDB
18:58.15znfand my load avg. has increased from ~2 to ~4
18:58.44Gnarfozdid you change all the appropriate mysql options, too?
18:58.50Gnarfozmany of them only affect MyISAM
18:59.27Gnarfoz(meaning, you could be reserving resources for MyISAM stuff that you're now not using anymore)
18:59.44znfI've changed around, yes
19:16.27Gnarfozuhhh what http://imgur.com/99zMAkx
19:17.29znfdo you feel lucky, punk? :D
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19:23.04GnarfozI wonder how that happened, I just rebooted
19:23.28Stanzillanever seen that error before
19:23.34znfI did
19:23.47Stanzillahow does it happen?
19:24.15znfIt happened to me when I flashed incremental rom updates back in the 2.x days
19:33.31Gnarfozbtw re cipher suites, Funkeh`: my particular set helped against POODLE, too, even though it was the FREAK workaround: http://imgur.com/a/1IpmO#0 pic 1: ssl3 enabled, custom cipher list (only PFS ciphers); pic 2: after disabling custom cipher list, ssl3 still enabled; pic 3: no custom list, ssl3 disabled
19:34.19Gnarfoz(and Chrome of course was unimpressed by either setting, if you're wondering about pic 4 & 5)
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19:36.01znfremind me again why do we keep giving names to exploits?
19:36.38GnarfozI have no idea
19:36.46Stanzillamedia
19:36.47Gnarfozprobably so regular news outlets pick up on them?
19:37.05Gnarfozmore publicity could mean better % of fix adoption
19:38.19Stanzillamore $$ with clicks you mean
19:38.36Gnarfozare there ads on these sites?
19:38.41Funkeh`Gnarfoz, yeah, that's what I meant by my earlier searching, the only mention of customizing cypher order was to preserve SSL3, but afaik poodle is the combination of SSL3 and a specific cypher
19:38.54Funkeh`so either will suffice
19:39.01Stanzillano, but in general
19:39.12Funkeh`chrome uses BoringSSL now afaik
19:40.32Gnarfozthat's stil the same shit with a different label
19:41.06Gnarfozanyway, POODLE is all CBC mode ciphers with SSL3
19:41.08Funkeh`my point was it wouldn't be affect by the setting change, not that it wouldn't be affected by poodle
19:41.19Funkeh`but chrome has removed ssl3 entirely
19:41.52znfwhat is Gnarfoz trying to break?
19:42.53GnarfozI won't go as far as installing an older Chrome build, but I'm convinced it would ignore that setting ^^
19:43.20Gnarfozznf: un-break, rather. the FREAK workaround Microsoft posted back then broke Windows Update
19:43.43GnarfozI did probably get rid of all of the ciphers listed here https://www.openssl.org/docs/apps/ciphers.html#SSL-v3.0-cipher-suites so my custom cipher list effectively ruled out SSL3
19:45.18Gnarfozit doesn't help that the cipher list you can supply via the GPO is limited to 1024 bytes maximum length
19:45.19Gnarfoz:D
19:45.27Gnarfozhad to purge some that I would have normally left active
19:46.36Funkeh`Gnarfoz, yes it will ignore that setting because it has it's own implementation, that's my point
19:46.52Funkeh`no current browser obeys the windows setting, they all have their own implementation
19:47.02Gnarfoz*the IE setting
19:47.03Gnarfoz:>
19:47.32GnarfozI should install a Windows "N" edition and see if it has that control panel applet
19:47.35Funkeh`chrome being boringSSL, firefox being NSS, and safari being... OpenSSL?
19:47.46GnarfozSafari on Windows? who even uses that
19:47.58Funkeh`no one since they killed it
19:48.11Gnarfozthey did? hah
19:48.19Funkeh`(hopefully noone)
19:48.21Stanzillayes
19:54.37harli'm looking for a potential replacement for Nymbia's "SpellBinder" addon.. any ideas?
19:56.46harlexcept BindPad or PhanxBind
20:00.40Gnarfozwhat exactly do you need that none of 3 addons in that category can fulfill it? o_O
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20:05.21StanzillaI use bindpad
20:05.43Stanzillawhat's your problem with it harl
20:08.41harli don't have a problem with bindpad, it's just not really a viable replacement for spellbinder.. my character are all supposed to use the same set of keybindings, including for their macros, like all my healers' macros have the same  names so i can use the same keys without having to use character-specific keybindings..
20:09.02harl*characters
20:10.22harland while bindpad can bind keys to macros, it doesn't work the way spellbinder did with my setup
20:13.41Stanzillawhat exactly is missing
20:13.46harli use spellbinder anyway, just not for that specific purpose.  i *could* create those keybindings by manually editing bindings-cache.wtf of course
20:13.49quiescenseverything~!
20:14.19TorhalWhatchoo say, quiescens? You're done with everything?
20:15.34Fiskerhey Torhal
20:15.36FiskerI want to sleep
20:15.44quiescensgo sleep
20:15.53Torhalhey Fisker
20:15.54TorhalAmbien?
20:16.00Fiskerno
20:18.02Stanzillaola Torhal
20:18.05Stanzillaesta bien?
20:18.45TorhalPor qué tienes que mentir?
20:21.38harlStanzilla: i use bindpad anyway, so i can have more macros.  bindpad's keybindings for non-bindpad macros just don't work the way i'd like them to. i'd have to create character-specific keybindings in bindpad, making it more or less obsolete.
20:22.24quiescensbrr
20:27.21StanzillaTorhal: tu eres la mujer mas bella del mundo
20:28.13TorhalStanzilla: No creo una palabra de lo que dices.
20:28.13quiescenso.o
20:28.44TorhalUsted es un invasor alienígena!
20:28.49quiescensmoo
20:29.29TorhalCreo quiescens a ser una fuente de carne de vacuno.
20:30.15quiescens):
20:31.11harlapropos.. *enables star trek stream*
20:31.58StanzillaI have a banana
20:32.07TorhalFor scale?
20:32.13Stanzillafor food
20:32.14znffor sale
20:32.21FiskerHi Torhal
20:32.27Torhalputs znf on a scale for sale as food.
20:32.37TorhalHi Fisker
20:32.39TorhalAmbrosia?
20:32.53FiskerWhy do you hurt me?
20:34.12TorhalI didn't
20:34.13TorhalWAT
20:34.26Torhalsends Fisker to Human Interaction School.
20:34.29FiskerYou did
20:34.37FiskerWhat is human interaction?
20:34.50TorhalIt's that one thing you never do.
20:35.00Stanzillahey Fisker
20:35.00znfwhat's a interaction human?
20:35.03Stanzillawhat is your favorite food
20:35.48FiskerHey Stanzilla
20:35.50FiskerYou
20:35.59Stanzillasrs pls
20:37.03znfdon't eat too much banana, Stanzilla
20:39.13StanzillaI dont
20:40.22Fiskersrs wat?
20:40.23Stanzilla@AndroidPolice: Reports Suggest 2013 Nexus 7 Units Are Failing At An Alarming Rate, Not Likely A Result Of Firmware Updates http://t.co/mPjw3I4mYZ
20:40.24Stanzillagg
20:40.31StanzillaFisker: what is your favorite food
20:41.09FiskerI already told you :'(
20:41.42Stanzillanope
20:42.40FiskerOh
20:47.33Stanzillaso what is it, Fisker
20:48.50FiskerI don't know
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21:08.07FiskerHey Ackis
21:09.31TorhalI'm pretty sure Ackis doesn't love us anymore, Fisker.
21:10.50StanzillaFisker: what is the food you eat the most
21:12.23FiskerBreakfast
21:12.52Stanzilla>:>:>:>:>:<<.<.<.
21:13.38Fisker:>
21:17.25FiskerHey Stanzilla
21:17.30Stanzillan
21:17.31Stanzillao
21:17.34Stanzillano more heys for you
21:17.48FiskerWhy not? :'(
21:19.06FiskerGuess I have to go bed sad
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21:39.58RepoGruul: Base the slice bar off the boss power instead of counting targets hit.
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22:50.47znfoh Stanzilla
22:50.55znfwhy didn't you say anything about class specific trinkets?
22:53.08Stanzillapretty sure I did
22:54.31Stanzillaback when it was news
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22:57.31znfsome trinkets actually look yummy
23:00.00znfStanzilla, judging how the datamined weapons look like now, do you think they're going to implement weapon effects?
23:02.34Stanzilladunno
23:02.36Stanzilladont think so
23:02.53Stanzillawould be too much
23:02.56Stanzillaring + trinket + x
23:54.00nevcairielwhat class specific trinkets
23:57.31nevcairielhm, found them, the druid trinket looks kinda meh :(

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