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00:10.23Makoshark1975Hello all
00:12.23Makoshark1975Can anyone tell me how to use a string in my table that matches my texture's "Name" attribute to do something like mytable[1].name:SetSize(x,y);
00:13.03Makoshark1975where mytable[1] = "texture";
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00:35.00Stanzillahttp://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1244856-regin-malware-unmasked-as-nsa-tool/
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08:09.12Funkeh`nevcairiel, https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/insider/forum/insider_wintp-insider_devices/just-got-an-update-for-inventec-lan-driver-for-win/516f4f25-931c-4f1d-aa87-74ce7220ab4b
08:09.41Fiskerhi Funkeh`
08:11.28nevcairielhaha, all these idiots using win10 posting in that thread, diverting the attention of the MS guy towards that
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09:07.37nebula169...its the windows 10 forum?
09:12.05wink"all these idiots usiung win10"
09:12.11winkpoint still stands! :P
09:12.31nevcairielthen i wonder why Funkeh` linked, either he also uses win10, and then all bets are off anyway, or he got confused as well
09:18.52winkI'd only try win10 if I had a spare computer
09:19.19nebula169i have it on my laptop
09:20.03nebula169only think i've found annoying is when you start typing to open an app it lags while it gets web results and app store shit
09:20.14winkyuck
09:20.36nevcairielcant you turn of the web integration
09:21.06nebula169not sure
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10:12.16nevcairielcan anyone log onto the PTR? I get login server errors
10:13.19Gnarfoznom nom "GHOST" security updates >_>
10:13.50nevcairielGnarfoz: just get an OS that doesn't use an outdated glibc, and you wouldnt have such problems
10:14.11Fiskerdunno nevcairiel but battle.net just fucked up a few minutes ago :P
10:14.11nevcairielfixing errors that have been fixed 2 years ago upstream, security conscious OS with slow updates ftw
10:14.12nevcairielnot
10:14.12nevcairiel:p
10:19.25Gnarfoznevcairiel: you mean "just get an unstable OS"?
10:20.50GnarfozRed Hat might not be the pinnacle of bleeding edge, but RHEL7 is rather new and they still opted to use an old-enough version of it
10:21.18Gnarfozmy private server isn't vulnerable because it uses Debian \o/
10:21.35Fiskerdebian uses new stuff?
10:22.00Gnarfozas I said: unstable ;)
10:24.47nevcairieldont even need to use debian unstable, testing is enough, they have a surprisingly recent version of glibc in there
10:26.04Repobroker_afk: 03oscarucb * r77 Broker_AFK.lua: spam filter improvements
10:26.27nevcairieli do find these bugs fascinating though. it allows you to only overwrite 4 bytes, and only with a very little number of characters, yet its enough to setup a full remote-execution defeating ASLR and everything
10:26.31Gnarfozyou shouldn't use testing, ever
10:27.05nevcairielwhat makes testing worse than unstable, its just the next stable :p
10:27.26Gnarfoztesting is worse than unstable because packages get promoted to it that depend on versions of other packages that haven't been promoted to it
10:27.40Gnarfozso it's easy to end up with broken dependencies often
10:28.36Gnarfozalso, getting promoted to testing can take a while, and since there's no security updates, you're better off with unstable
10:29.31Gnarfozor just run stable and don't listen to the haters :D
10:29.38Gnarfoz(at least it gets security updates)
10:29.49nevcairielbut i am a hater, i cant stop listening to myself
10:30.00Gnarfozcut off your ears
10:30.22nevcairieli dont talk to myself that way
10:30.25nevcairielits all in my head
10:30.38Fiskercalls the shrink
10:30.42Gnarfozcut off your head
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12:13.54nevcairielI know the name doesnt fit quite right, but darmac still reminds me of darmok and jalad, at tanagra!
12:26.43nevcairielheh, the flight form book in ashran is awesome
12:44.19znfregarding ashran - that change sucks
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13:05.31Gnarfoznevcairiel: temba, his arms wide
13:08.10Gnarfozour network admin has decided I'm a Google-fanatic
13:08.14Gnarfozbecause I use Chrome
13:08.40Gnarfozand defend my use of it vocally, and don't give into his "but Google is evil" blah
13:09.28mitch0Gnarfoz: switch to opera, it's the same engine with built-in mouse gestures ;)
13:09.33nevcairielits not like there is a choice, IE is also evil, mozilla are freetards :p
13:09.56FiskerMozilla is the evilest
13:10.01mitch0and there's also this new Vivaldi browser from the ex opera ceo
13:10.02Gnarfozmitch0: great, I'll do that when gestures make sense on desktops :D
13:10.13mitch0Gnarfoz: erm, it does...
13:10.26mitch0although I only juse the back-forward and close gestures
13:10.28Gnarfozalmost as much as a touch-oriented interface does
13:10.42FiskerI use my keyboard
13:10.43mitch0opera gestures pre-date touch-screens
13:10.50Gnarfozunlikely.
13:11.03Gnarfoz(touch screen desktop PCs, yes)
13:11.07FiskerOpera predates everything
13:11.12mitch0almost ;)
13:11.23GnarfozI have dedicated mouse buttons for back and forward already anyway, so that leaves 1 function, wohoo
13:11.26FiskerEverything ever invented was there first in opera
13:11.53znfI'm sure my ctrl+w is faster than your mouse gesture for closing a damn tab
13:11.56Gnarfoz(guess what, my left hand rests on the left side of my keyboard already, I'll just use ctrl+w!)
13:12.17winkpeople who use more than 2 mouse buttons are weird :P
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13:12.31GnarfozApple users might find even that to be excessive
13:12.44znfI once used a mouse without a back/forward button
13:12.45znfOnce.
13:12.53znf(disclaimer: in the last ~4 years)
13:12.54znfnever again
13:13.06winkoh I love macs. I cause total mayhem just by using colleagues'
13:13.20winkI especially love closing browser windows when trying to do @
13:13.39Gnarfozshift-2 closes browser windows?
13:13.42winkor flipping stuff and disorganizing everything while changing desktops
13:13.49winkno, alt-q or cmd-q
13:13.56znfhttp://i.imgur.com/gn8XwjC.jpg
13:13.57znfwhat the
13:14.00Gnarfozif that's where @ is, you're already doing it wrong
13:14.00winkGerman macs.
13:14.10Gnarfozznf: it's called: trolling
13:14.14winkwhy would I *try* us layuut :)
13:14.16Gnarfozwink: double plus bad
13:14.27znfUS layout == Master Layout
13:14.27wink*shrug* not my machine
13:14.32Gnarfozalso, isn't @ on cmd+L on german Macs
13:14.37Gnarfozor something like that
13:14.37winkI have no clue
13:14.41winkas I said :)
13:14.50winkwhen I help them with stuff I usually call someone to type | for me
13:14.54znfWhoever designed weird keyboard layouts can go Fisker themselves
13:14.57GnarfozI think I recall something like that when there was beta-signup at Blizzard's booth at Gamescom
13:15.10Gnarfoz(well, it was still Gamescon then, and in a different city)
13:15.17winkthe good one
13:15.30Gnarfozand they had Macs, and nobody knew how to type their email addresses
13:15.34winklol
13:15.43winkwell it's Germany
13:15.52winkno one has a mac. (excl. programmers)
13:15.52Gnarfozperception filter: enable!
13:16.08winkin the US I sometimes think no non-gamer has windows anymore
13:16.35mitch0linux adoption is so good there?
13:16.48znflaughs at mitch0
13:16.53Gnarfoznice try
13:16.53znftotally
13:16.57mitch0:)
13:17.16Gnarfozbut then, you woke up, checked actual market shares, and realized how far from reality that is :D
13:17.51mitch02015, the year of the linux desktop
13:17.58winkagain? dammit
13:18.24winkthere's exactly one thing where I envy mac users
13:18.34winkcrisp font rendering on retina screens looks really nice
13:18.37winkcompared to linux
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16:02.00Funkeh`nevcairiel, I don't know why it's on a windows 10 forum, probably because it's the only place they are reading
16:02.05Funkeh`it affects windows 8+
16:02.23Funkeh`(as can be seen by reading the posts)
16:02.32nevcairielbut because its there, they ignored it
16:02.39nevcairielso it didnt do nothin'
16:02.40nevcairiel:D
16:02.56Funkeh`what would make them do something?
16:03.22nevcairieldunno
16:21.48Repopremo_power-1: 03azmaedus 04v2.0.0.2-r41 release * r42 : Changed a to r
16:26.07Repopremo_power-1: 03azmaedus 04v2.0.0.2-r41 release * r43 : unwanted
16:27.10Repopremo_power-1: 03azmaedus 04v2.0.0.2-r41 release * r44 : alpha to release
17:00.07Stanzillatime for a skype downgrade
17:00.42FiskerWhat did they do this time?
17:01.07Stanzillafixed a few things but I still prefer the look of the old version
17:01.28FiskerSo time to not upgrade skype you mean
17:01.52Stanzilladepends, if you use groups, you probably want to stay on the old version forever
17:01.57Stanzillaapart from that it's just looks
17:03.55FiskerI mean since you didn't already like the previous version there already weren't a reason to upgrade
17:03.59Fiskerhence time to not upgrade
17:11.24Stanzillaprobably
17:11.47Stanzillastill having a great discussion with the microsofties http://community.skype.com/t5/Windows-desktop-client/Missing-Features-in-the-new-design-preview/m-p/3837964#M328647
17:14.07nevcairielhm, apparently the Samsung 840 EVO is still having performance troubles .. damn TLC drive
17:15.48Stanzillayeah, glad that I went with the Pro
17:16.06nevcairieli have an evo in my server
17:16.29nevcairielhttp://imgur.com/z8GLwQz but this doesnt look good
17:17.41pompy1Stanzilla: there were no security fixes in that update?
17:18.00nevcairielmaybe i get lucky and samsung releases another fixing tool, even if it just temporarily fixes the performance and i have to run it once every couple months, i wouldnt care much :p
17:18.35nevcairielunfortunately, i cannot run the fixing operation of the old tool again, it just says already optimized =(
17:19.00Stanzillapompy1: don't care. also skype does not  do real changelogs
17:19.12Stanzillanevcairiel: ugh that looks nasty
17:22.16nevcairieli mean, this is consistent performance! http://imgur.com/9bNNlfj
17:22.20nevcairiel(on my desktop ssd)
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17:29.23Stanzillastrong case of SSD envy
17:38.11quiescenso.o
17:39.25FiskerSo just buy 850 Pro?
17:40.01Fiskerdamn the 1TB 850 Pro is expensive
17:40.23FiskerSo I should buy a 512GB 850 Pro with a 1TB 850 EVO as secondary storage
17:40.39nevcairielas long as the 850 evo doesnt use tlc
17:41.23FiskerPretty sure it uses the same thing as the 850 pro
17:41.49FiskerI think like the 128GB version is like the size of a usb stick inside :D
17:42.29nevcairielyou can get M.2 drives in like 512gb or so, and they are tiny still
17:43.47nevcairielhm i still cannot access ptr, still auth errors
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17:44.25Fiskerpls nevcairiel
17:45.05nevcairielits fascinating how the 850 pro 1tb hasnt changed in price one bit since i purchased it in october or so
17:45.59nevcairielmaybe lost 10€ or so
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17:59.15Neffi<nevcairiel> as long as the 850 evo doesnt use tlc  <- but it does use TLC
17:59.25Neffibut it's not the same TLC as 840 obviously. it's 3D NAND
17:59.56nevcairielthats not really important, the management of the TLC is the problem
18:00.13nevcairielbut unless someone runs some tests, its impossible to know if it suffers from the same problem
18:11.11Repococonuts: 03lordfarlander * r271 Coconuts.lua: Coconuts:
18:11.12Repo- Change when mounts are repicked when summoning
18:13.01StanzillaFisker
18:13.05FiskerStanzilla
18:13.07Stanzillaput on your update wednesday pants
18:13.09FiskerI'm hyped
18:13.10Fisker^^
18:13.20FiskerPhone is out of physical reach though
18:13.22Fiskerdamnit android wear
18:13.29Stanzillawhy
18:13.33Stanzillamy phone never leaves my side
18:13.43Fiskerdon't need it to be at my side anymore
18:14.42Stanzillachome dev update too
18:14.48Stanzillagoing to the about page still crashes
18:14.49Stanzillagg
18:16.13FiskerGoogle cast extension updated though
18:16.18Fiskerhow do I update chrome again then?
18:17.13Stanzillawait for auto update und run the installer
18:17.18Stanzillaund=or
18:17.30Fiskersince when?
18:18.09FiskerThought I had issues with running the dev channel installer
18:18.12Fiskerand you gave me some link
18:18.28StanzillaI don't remember that
18:18.33Fiskeralso
18:18.38Stanzillabut it always worked for me this way
18:18.43quiescensnerf Stanzilla o.o
18:19.39Fisker42 is a new major right?
18:19.50FiskerI think it was 41 before
18:19.55Stanzillayes
18:20.18Stanzilla40 was released this week
18:20.40Fiskerah yeah
18:20.45FiskerAlso
18:21.03FiskerSomebody complained about vat being added on some of his keyshops
18:21.14FiskerAnd he asked for help how to cheat the system
18:21.27nevcairieleasy, travel there, buy, smuggle into the country
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18:21.29FiskerI told him if he wanted to pay to break the law why not just pirate it?
18:21.37FiskerMy post was deleted for piracy
18:21.38Stanzillatrue
18:21.41Stanzillalol
18:21.54Stanzillaon steam? or where?
18:21.59nevcairieland his post remains? :p
18:22.19nevcairielbecause pirating games is worse than tax fraud!
18:22.52FiskerYeah nevcairiel it does
18:25.21FiskerBut I reworded it :P
18:25.43FiskerSo I just basically said "Well why pay to break the law when there's cheaper alternatives?"
18:26.05nevcairielyeah, when you could break the law for free
18:26.12Fisker^^
18:27.26StanzillaFisker: which forum was it
18:29.03Fiskera danish one
18:47.58Stanzillaclassic blizzard
18:48.05Stanzillathey did not even notice that EU people cant login to PTR
18:48.25nevcairieldid someone tell them then
18:48.33Stanzillayes
18:51.29nevcairielmaybe i can test later then, finally
18:51.44Fiskerhence classic blizzard nevcairiel
18:52.56Stanzillalolz http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/59082-Windows-10-(Technical-Preview)-ESDs-Repository/page4?p=993718&viewfull=1#post993718
18:54.03nevcairielthats funny why
18:54.42nevcairielalso why would you want older builds
18:55.00Stanzillabecause that guy just posts working links out of nowhere
18:55.09Stanzillaand for digging into it purposes
18:55.19Stanzillapeople are still finding new stuff in old windows xp betas :D
18:55.56FastiFisker: 1TB versio is having some problems, something bottlenecking and making 500GB version speedier :)
18:56.25Fastinot that anyone will notice, unless doing benchmarking
18:56.31Stanzillaalso the method to figuring those links out was kinda known
18:56.40Stanzilla(to get current/future) versions
18:56.50Stanzillabut that guy leaked it and now ms will patch it
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19:01.05FiskerHeard anything about the new chromecast stuff Stanzilla ?
19:25.32StanzillaFisker: nope, only saw the apk but did not install yet
19:25.40Stanzillabtw the chrome update issue is said to be fixed with this release
19:26.00Fiskeryay
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19:43.09Fiskerhelp me get Parnic Stanzilla
19:43.15Stanzillawhy
19:43.27FiskerBecause "Lets get him"
19:43.33Parnicfrowns
19:43.46Fiskerhi \o/
19:44.07FiskerCan you read somewhere about their update plans for elite Parnic?
19:44.23Parnicno. i just look at the elite subreddit and stuff
19:44.29Parnicthey sometimes post in their forums about upcoming plans
19:44.52FiskerLooks like they have the next few ones sketched out so just wanted to see if I could read about them in more detail :P
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20:14.50StanzillaI think this short url generator is racist http://i.imgur.com/q2ADFUC.png
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21:56.04nevcairieloh ptr finally works
21:58.17nevcairielmax settings, 30 fps at 100% gpu load .. hmmm, and thats me alone in the garrison
21:58.36nevcairielalso, seriously people complaining in ptr trade that leveling to 100 on the ptr requires a live-WoD account
21:59.35TorhalKey word there is "people".
21:59.52nevcairielhm, 23 fps now
21:59.54nevcairieli need more GPUs
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22:03.18FiskerHey
22:03.36nevcairiel50% render scale is an interesting option though :p
22:03.49nevcairieleverything looks washed out and old-schooly
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22:43.27nevcairieloh nice crafting and work orders now show the actual amount of  mats you have, instead of just a * when you are over 100
22:43.38nevcairielabout time they fixed that
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23:31.21Gnarfozthey put render scale in?
23:31.38GnarfozI wonder if they nabbed some Wildstar devs after they axed like a third of their staff
23:32.07nevcairielIt started just as SSAA 2x, but they made it flexible now that you can do 50-200% in 5% increments
23:32.13Gnarfozor maybe just inspired by it, in the usual "hey, what do other people do that we could steal/adopt/copy/whatever?" fashion
23:32.33nevcairielnot that 200% is playable <.<
23:32.47GnarfozWildstar actually removed the render scale option before end of beta, and replaced it with a dropdown, I think
23:32.58Gnarfozalso they removed the ability to use it for supersampling
23:33.11Gnarfozbecause people would just "turn up all sliders" and then complain about performance ^^
23:33.50nevcairiel50% might be neat for lowest-end systems, reduce rendering requirements without destroying UI quality
23:33.51Gnarfoz(not that Wildstar performance was good to begin with... but you know that story already! I bought your GPU because of it :D)
23:34.10Gnarfozyeah. that's at least what the Wildstar guys aimed for in the end
23:34.27Gnarfozbut I saw in that MMOC globalstrings list that they also put some MSAA options back in?
23:34.38nevcairielthe only alternative today is running lower res to begin with, but that messes up your UI
23:34.40Gnarfozso they're not entirely incompetent in the end ;)
23:34.59NeffiI dunno but Blizzard did nab some ESO people
23:35.08nevcairielpeople complain that its not as effective of an AA as the old MSAA though
23:35.24nevcairielbut you can combine it with post-processing AA on top if you want to
23:35.27nevcairielor super-sampling
23:35.27Gnarfoz"it" what, precisely?
23:35.32nevcairielits quite flexibile now
23:35.38nevcairielthe "new" MSAA
23:35.53Gnarfozwait, that doesn't use the GPU's MSAA stuff, then?
23:36.02nevcairielwho knows
23:36.11nevcairielmaybe it does just differently
23:36.13Gnarfozwell, if the quality is different than before, that's the only way, isn't it
23:36.31Gnarfozunless running 6.1 stealthily replaces your GPU :D
23:36.48Gnarfozbut then I'm not an expert on how this stuff works ;p
23:37.13nevcairieli havent really done a zoom-in-comparison myself, just from normal viewing distance it looks fine to me
23:37.36nevcairieland the new HBAO+ option looks amazing
23:37.43Gnarfozthe what now
23:37.55Gnarfozambient occlusion I guess?
23:37.59nevcairielits nvidias magic-sauce SSAO option
23:37.59Gnarfozwhat's HB
23:38.28nevcairielHorizon Based Ambient Occlusion
23:38.37GnarfozHorizon-Based Ambient Occlusion
23:38.37Gnarfozyeah
23:38.37Gnarfozthanks Heise
23:38.40Gnarfoz:D
23:38.47Gnarfozhttp://www.heise.de/ct/artikel/Schattenspiel-1948171.html
23:38.52Gnarfozoy
23:38.59Gnarfoz"Copy failed" on the account data copy thing
23:39.11nevcairieljust ignore that and go to the character list now and copy your char
23:39.15Megaloncopy the char
23:39.20Gnarfozk
23:39.39GnarfozI dig that they finally put in a modern system for this
23:39.45Gnarfozbut it looks so unpolished :p
23:40.28Megalongives Gnarfoz a bottle of polish
23:40.29Megalonyou do it
23:40.38nevcairielthe looks are fine, the error messages are a bit annoying
23:40.40GnarfozI'm not polish
23:41.52Gnarfozpfff
23:41.56Gnarfozput the big slider to ultra
23:42.09GnarfozSSAO still is "high" >_>
23:42.20nevcairielprobably because the ultra mode is limited to nvidia
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23:43.25nevcairielit also doesnt set lighting to the highest, but i think there is a bug somewhere with it not saving the setting properly
23:43.30Gnarfozwhat the hell, control over multisample... at color & depth level?!
23:43.37GnarfozI doubt this goes live in this form
23:43.44nevcairielwho knows
23:43.49nevcairielits hidden on the advanced page afterall
23:43.52Gnarfozway too much control for mere mortals
23:44.16nevcairielnot that i would have a clue if there is any advantage in having those two diverge
23:44.36nevcairielthe preset dropdown has them at the same anywa
23:44.41Gnarfozyeah, could as well say "option 1" through "option 8"
23:44.44nevcairielbut the cvar allows you to split it
23:45.19nevcairielmax out render scale and hear your gpu scream!
23:45.51nevcairielthere should probably be a warning there of some sort, using a renderscale of 105% or so can actually degrade quality
23:46.55GnarfozGPU load: 98%
23:46.58Gnarfozfan speed: 50%
23:47.02Gnarfozfucks given: 0
23:47.42nevcairielhehe
23:47.49nevcairielit does get slightly noisy at those levels
23:48.02Gnarfozyeah, I can hear it
23:48.18Gnarfoz50% is no problem with headphones on, though
23:48.22nevcairieltrue
23:48.40Gnarfozat 100% I can hear it regardless ^^
23:48.55nevcairielluckily it usually never reaches 100%, even at long-term 100% use
23:49.11Gnarfozyeah, the cooling system is rather good, after all
23:49.23nevcairielwell it also wants to work at 40C ambient i guess
23:49.30nevcairielno idea how its really specified
23:49.40nevcairiel40 is probably a bit too high
23:49.50GnarfozPerfCap reason: "Thrm"
23:49.51Gnarfozhehe
23:50.14GnarfozI guess I could remove the maxFps checkmark
23:50.25Gnarfozthat... actually does nothing
23:50.25nevcairielthat'll surely drive it mad
23:50.36Gnarfozshouldn't look at the ground, probably
23:50.39nevcairielwith scale 200% you might not even sustain that level
23:50.47nevcairieli dont in any case
23:50.51nevcairielbut i also play on 1600p
23:51.25nevcairieljust staring at my garrison and some npcs there in, 25-30 fps, ultra with scale 200%, msaa 8x
23:51.25nevcairiel:D
23:52.02Gnarfozhm, I'm at 1200p , was about 35-40 fps in my garrison
23:52.07nevcairieli should totally buy a titan x once it comes out
23:52.17Gnarfoz2x ssaa / cmaa
23:52.29nevcairielyeah i went over the top and just turned everything on
23:52.44Gnarfozwoah MSAA 8x instead of what I just wrote more than doubled my FPS
23:52.56nevcairielrender scale is expensive, yo
23:53.04nevcairiel2x scale is actually 4x the pixels
23:53.08Gnarfozsure, but that's intependent of 2x ssaa/cmaa
23:53.09nevcairielits like gaming at 4K
23:53.27Gnarfozoh, it isn't - I guess I misjudged how the sliders/dropdowns interact
23:53.42Gnarfozthey're just different interfaces to the same settings, then
23:53.48nevcairielthe dropdown on the main graphics page just goes to "custom" when you mess with the advanced page
23:54.51Gnarfozchanging stuff there also fucks with the other settings like liquid detail and such
23:55.00Gnarfozbut I guess that's what you meant earlier with stuff not saving properly
23:56.29nevcairielonly 200% with CMAA gives me 35-40 fps, adding MSAA 8x on top, down to 25
23:57.04Gnarfozyeah, after I understood how it works, I also managed to bog mine down to 15 fps while standing at the Everbloom FP
23:57.08Neffi"titan x" wait what
23:57.22Gnarfozwhatever the "full Maxwell" titan is going to be called
23:57.35nevcairielrumors are using titan x or titan II
23:57.41nevcairielpick what you like
23:58.40nevcairielrumors also say announce on the GTC in march
23:58.43nevcairielwe'll see!
23:59.12GnarfozPerfCap reason: Thrm all the time ^^
23:59.30Gnarfozdoes that mean if my case was just cooler, I could get more performance? it can't, really, can it
23:59.44Gnarfozsince the fan is still only at 53% and I'd expect it to go higher than that ^^
23:59.53nevcairieli dunno, does it run on its designated spec?
23:59.59Gnarfozmeaning?

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