00:04.02 | znf | so nice having Stanzilla here |
00:04.06 | znf | it's like we have our own commit-bot |
00:04.07 | znf | :D |
00:08.26 | Stanzilla | = ) |
00:14.51 | znf | wowhead has an IRC channel! |
00:14.57 | znf | Who do I slap there for how badly their twitter is? |
00:17.34 | znf | (and their non-responsive website) |
00:25.11 | Gnarfoz | is it just me or does simcraft take AGES longer doing 15k iterations than 10k |
00:25.44 | Gnarfoz | took a couple of minutes for 10k, but wasn't even at 2k iterations after 15 minutes when I canceled the 15k run |
00:28.04 | Gnarfoz | also, I very much doubt that crit is supposed to be my strongest secondary stat oO |
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01:04.07 | znf | Gnarfoz, what spec?! |
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01:13.46 | Stanzilla | ret |
01:35.39 | Semlar | rekt |
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01:42.33 | znf | rekt paladin |
01:57.02 | znf | best pic on reddit today: https://i.imgur.com/zwxxH8T.jpg |
01:59.31 | quiescens | go to sleep znf |
01:59.37 | znf | no |
01:59.40 | znf | beats quiescens with a stick |
02:00.58 | quiescens | dies. |
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06:03.50 | Stanzilla | jumps on Gnarfoz |
06:05.01 | znf | can't sleep :-( |
06:13.35 | znf | I really like the wcl guy! |
06:13.41 | znf | Fight Analysis will be /so/ awesome! :D |
06:18.13 | Fisker | hey Stanzilla |
06:18.15 | Fisker | I'm scared |
06:24.58 | pompy1 | so was i a little bit ago, until I saw "1:56 AM EDT: Tornado warning will be allowed to expire at 2AM as rotation has moved off shore." |
06:26.23 | Fisker | But I'm scared over the lack of activity from google |
06:34.39 | Stanzilla | hi |
06:34.54 | Fisker | hi |
06:34.58 | Fisker | I'm about to poof |
06:35.17 | znf | http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/tutorial/mspaint |
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06:41.47 | znf | Fisker, why do all Kodi logos suck? |
06:47.56 | Kalroth | because it's a stupid name |
06:48.32 | znf | yes, yes it is :( |
06:50.45 | Kalroth | should have called it XMMC for eXtreme Modular Media Center |
06:50.56 | Kalroth | (it's close enough that google redirects it to XMBC) |
06:51.28 | sb | morning |
06:51.34 | Kalroth | moin |
06:52.58 | Fisker | I think they should've called it wmc |
06:54.09 | Kalroth | Winners Media Center |
06:54.12 | Kalroth | i like it, Fisker |
06:55.03 | Fisker | I was thinking Wii Media Center |
07:02.44 | Fisker | Boobs |
07:04.44 | Kalroth | where |
07:10.02 | Fisker | Here |
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07:40.09 | Stanzilla | newest shit from the warrior front, taking no talent is better than taking slam http://i.gyazo.com/7e1f5ac141115b497b843bb86c183ed5.png |
07:41.21 | quiescens | wasn't slam the funny attack that had a castbar like a spell |
07:41.29 | sb | yup |
07:41.43 | sb | Stanzilla: still https://i.imgur.com/SowSwD4.jpg :| |
07:41.55 | Stanzilla | yeah |
07:42.07 | quiescens | does it still have a castbar like a spell? |
07:42.09 | sb | they could just remove locks |
07:43.09 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: valor buff persisted for me as well, got 175 valor for free from handing in last weeks quests : p |
07:44.08 | Stanzilla | quiescens: no |
07:44.18 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: you can force that |
07:44.49 | Stanzilla | just don't trigger a loading screen once logged in and it will stay |
07:45.08 | nevcairiel | i hearthed to the shrine and its still there |
07:45.20 | Stanzilla | hacker |
07:45.32 | nevcairiel | technically the same instance tho, from isle |
07:46.12 | nevcairiel | i dont really need the boost anyway, i usually cap by doing what i do anyway |
07:46.19 | nevcairiel | we just talked about it yesterday |
07:47.09 | sb | also, did anyone see strange things happen to your experience on WoD? i copied my rogue and he had like 1/4 XP of lvl 91 already |
07:47.22 | sb | Stanzilla: cmderplus good? |
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07:48.11 | Stanzilla | not sure |
07:48.20 | Stanzilla | it's kinda broken on win10 |
07:48.50 | quiescens | use win7 |
07:49.54 | quiescens | what do people use for voice comms these days anyway |
07:50.12 | quiescens | does anyone ever use the ingame stuff in games |
07:51.01 | Xuerian | Stanzilla: 10? Edgy much? |
07:51.16 | nevcairiel | he lives on the edge |
07:51.22 | sb | quiescens: nope |
07:51.52 | sb | teamspeak, mumble, vent, skype - or the "new" CV |
07:52.01 | quiescens | what's that? |
07:53.24 | sb | curse voice |
07:54.35 | sb | nevcairiel, Stanzilla - tried it with a guildie the next day, we had some problems ("abgehackt", unvollstaendige saetze, ...) no idea if its CV related or something else (hardware issues, latency, ...) |
07:54.51 | nevcairiel | worked fine for us, didnt it |
07:55.03 | quiescens | oic |
07:55.10 | sb | yup |
07:57.13 | Stanzilla | Xuerian: it's fine so far |
07:57.53 | Xuerian | Stanzilla: Nice. I did that for vista/7, I think Imma just wait for release on 10 though. What're your thoughts on it so far? |
07:58.10 | sb | nevcairiel: caseking listing 28.11. :/ |
07:58.23 | nevcairiel | now you're screwed |
07:58.30 | Stanzilla | Xuerian: they are finally getting their shit together and not trying to force metro on desktop pcs |
07:58.57 | Stanzilla | in general, good features, good enhancements |
07:59.12 | Stanzilla | performance will be great, too. dx12 will be released with it |
07:59.35 | Xuerian | Looking forward to that, too. |
07:59.48 | Stanzilla | they really need to fix the store though |
07:59.51 | Stanzilla | that thing is still horrible |
08:02.51 | Xuerian | I can ignore the store, I just want relatives apps to not pop up in fullscreen metro. Granted, I loved Win8.0's start screen (8.1 coloring can gdiaf), but dealing with /them/ was the problem |
08:03.08 | Xuerian | "I opened a document and can't find anything any more" |
08:04.56 | Stanzilla | apps workign in a window is really good |
08:05.01 | Stanzilla | can finally use more of them |
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08:31.47 | harl | mojn |
08:33.30 | quiescens | o/ |
08:35.56 | harl | :) |
08:36.22 | quiescens | gives harl a cookie |
08:42.00 | harl | scritches quiescens |
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10:31.42 | nevcairiel | Repo is dead |
10:32.54 | Megalon | you had it killed? |
10:33.09 | nevcairiel | i tasked fisker to do it |
10:34.29 | sb | wonder if i should get the K95, its only +20eur :p |
10:34.34 | sb | Repo: hello! |
10:48.10 | Gnarfoz | greetings from the land of noisy keyboards |
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10:51.28 | sb | and quasselwebthingy? :D |
10:51.50 | Megalon | at least he's not repeating himself all the time |
10:52.01 | Megalon | mr 3timesfoz |
10:52.04 | Gnarfoz | yep, quasselwebthingy with same node version as yours |
10:52.12 | sb | i see |
10:52.27 | Gnarfoz | apparently 0.11.14 has new socket.io |
10:52.48 | Gnarfoz | for which there's commits to make it work |
10:53.02 | nevcairiel | ..but it doesn't? :p |
10:53.14 | Gnarfoz | something like that, yes |
10:53.14 | Gnarfoz | :D |
10:53.29 | Gnarfoz | I guess I should put o-rings on the keyboard to save my colleagues' sanity |
10:53.50 | Gnarfoz | good thing I brought nearly all of them, except the 1.5 mm nitrile ones I'm using at home |
11:01.17 | nevcairiel | which one did you get now |
11:03.53 | Gnarfoz | Filco Majestouch 2 Ninja US, one with browns (work), one with blues (home) |
11:04.04 | Gnarfoz | build quality is superb |
11:04.33 | nevcairiel | i looked at that one last year or so, but it was never available |
11:04.42 | Gnarfoz | keycaps are a bit cheap, as expected, but still better than my IBM one |
11:05.01 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I hear it has availability problems in many places, but keyboardco has them on stock |
11:05.56 | Gnarfoz | http://www.keyboardco.com/keyboard_search.asp?sr=majestouch+ninja |
11:06.00 | Gnarfoz | UK based |
11:06.19 | Gnarfoz | and indeed, TNT managed to get the package from there to here in less than 15 hours |
11:06.28 | nevcairiel | i'm weird and like at least simple key illumination tho |
11:06.40 | Gnarfoz | well, I certainly thought that would be possible, but it's rarely standard even today |
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11:11.26 | quiescens | o.o |
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11:11.27 | quiescens | did you break irc again *foz |
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11:12.30 | harl | i like how the Filco's got no extra keys.. and i'd probably get the tenkeyless variant |
11:12.41 | Gnarfoz | I was just going to ask... my quasselweb thing disconnected me for a second |
11:13.17 | sb | freenode disconnect :o |
11:14.10 | quiescens | blame *foz, i was already in the middle of blaming him when people started to rejoin |
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11:16.52 | Gnarfoz | quiesecens: gotta speed up |
11:17.18 | Gnarfoz | harl: yeah, no fancy stuff; I'm not sure I could live with no num block, though |
11:17.28 | Gnarfoz | considering getting a 60% keyboard for LAN or something later on, though |
11:17.53 | Gnarfoz | (but at work I certainly use almost all keys on the keyboard, except, of course, scroll lock) |
11:18.04 | Gnarfoz | who the hell uses that, and for what |
11:19.07 | mitch0 | you turn on scrolling with that in the fbsd console, for example |
11:20.03 | Gnarfoz | if you're actually using one directly, that is |
11:20.09 | harl | my scroll lock is mapped to the 2nd windows key (with caps lock mapped to the 1st) |
11:20.13 | Gnarfoz | (I guess?) |
11:21.11 | sb | hm, mapping caps lock is a good idea, never used this |
11:21.13 | harl | since the original windows keys on my keyboard are sawed off |
11:21.28 | sb | and its perfectly reachable |
11:21.49 | mitch0 | wha? caps-lock is ctrl obviously |
11:21.59 | harl | nah |
11:22.47 | harl | ctrl is ctrl and it's already next to shift |
11:23.21 | mitch0 | even if it's next to shift (it usually isn't), it's way low for the pinky |
11:23.50 | harl | my hands are rather small |
11:24.03 | nevcairiel | what kind of keyboard do you have if ctrl is not next to shift |
11:24.11 | harl | and i'm used to bending my fingers due to playing piano |
11:24.19 | nevcairiel | on all 4 keyboards i can see from here, shift is just above ctrl |
11:24.43 | harl | yes |
11:24.44 | nevcairiel | except the weird mac laptop, there is a Fn key in between, but macs are weird anyway |
11:24.44 | mitch0 | it's a logitech, and ctrl is below shift |
11:24.53 | mitch0 | same on the lenovo |
11:25.11 | nevcairiel | below is also next to, as long as they share a border |
11:25.16 | mitch0 | oh well |
11:25.19 | harl | yes |
11:25.35 | mitch0 | ok, forget the first part then, it's way too low |
11:25.53 | harl | 1st part of what |
11:25.54 | nevcairiel | i can reach ctrl perfectly tho, i used it as ptt for a very long time |
11:26.05 | mitch0 | <mitch0> even if it's next to shift (it usually isn't), it's way low for the pinky |
11:26.27 | harl | oh |
11:26.29 | nevcairiel | ctrl is like the natural resting position for my pinky :D |
11:26.40 | mitch0 | nevcairiel: you're doing it wrong ;) |
11:26.51 | nevcairiel | maybe you just have tiny hands! |
11:27.06 | harl | it's the other way around |
11:27.18 | mitch0 | no, I just have my hands in the proper touch-typing "rest" position |
11:27.32 | nevcairiel | my rest position is on wsad for gaming! |
11:27.33 | mitch0 | pinky is on a |
11:27.33 | nevcairiel | :D |
11:27.42 | mitch0 | wsad is of course a mistake |
11:27.49 | mitch0 | it must be remapped to esdf |
11:28.44 | harl | resting position of my index finger is T, with my pinky on shift and ctrl |
11:29.02 | mitch0 | sheesh |
11:29.34 | harl | oô |
11:29.42 | Megalon | i have my index finger on f9, and pinky on numpad-0 |
11:29.47 | Megalon | awkward at first but works nicely |
11:29.52 | harl | yea right |
11:30.02 | mitch0 | Megalon: it's after the accident, right? |
11:30.29 | Megalon | yea, gotta work with what you got, mitch0 |
11:30.33 | mitch0 | ;) |
11:30.36 | harl | *facepalm* |
11:30.52 | sb | same here - wasd :| |
11:31.01 | Megalon | wish i could do that harl, but i'd poke an eye out |
11:31.08 | mitch0 | :)) |
11:31.20 | harl | i heal with F-keys and still move with wasd.. take that |
11:31.33 | mitch0 | wasd sucks for obvious reasons |
11:31.41 | Megalon | take my strong hand! |
11:32.02 | harl | your strong hand is too strong and big for me.. lol.. |
11:34.19 | harl | mitch0: i still wonder what reasons that would be |
11:35.39 | mitch0 | erm, so that your hands would be in the natural touch-typist rest position (even when gaming) |
11:35.58 | mitch0 | also, 'f' and 'j' are marked so you can find them easily without looking |
11:36.04 | harl | yes |
11:36.15 | harl | but why does wasd suck |
11:36.34 | mitch0 | erm |
11:36.47 | mitch0 | esdf vs wasd, 'f' |
11:37.23 | mitch0 | unless you use wasd with pinky on 'a', ring-finger for 'w' etc (which I highly doubt) |
11:38.13 | harl | no, but i move forward/backward with my pinky on w and s respectively if i have to |
11:38.36 | mitch0 | uh |
11:39.39 | mitch0 | *shrug*, whatever floats your boat. give esdf + caps as ctrl a try once though (and learn proper touch-typing) It's worth it in the long run imo |
11:39.48 | mitch0 | takes about 3 weeks to get to a reasonably usable level |
11:40.05 | harl | heh.. i know how to touchtype already |
11:40.39 | mitch0 | and you don't feel the errors of wasd? strange |
11:41.17 | harl | touchtyping doesn't dictate the size of my hand or its resting position |
11:42.08 | mitch0 | I don't agree with your second statement, but again, *shrug*. not much point in continuing this |
11:42.11 | mitch0 | (also vi > emacs) |
11:43.49 | harl | lol.. fair enough |
11:44.11 | harl | i too prefer vi, or rather vim |
11:44.52 | mitch0 | btw, it's no coincidence that the main character in wiz 7 is "Vi Domina", not "Emacs Domina" |
11:45.32 | harl | ^^ |
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12:55.29 | quiescens | ! |
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13:14.48 | sb | so quassel with qt 5.4 / webchannel could bring us a real webinterface!? :D |
13:15.28 | Gnarfoz | I know half of those words |
13:16.04 | sb | basically websocketse for c++ |
13:16.28 | sb | ask nevcairiel for details :D |
13:21.34 | znf | uuu, websockets |
13:21.40 | znf | websockets are neat |
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14:53.29 | nevcairiel | hey the b.net app is more verbose now, it actually says stuff its doing when starting an update |
14:53.34 | nevcairiel | or i just always missed it doing that |
15:03.27 | haste | it spammed my terminals quite a lot before at least |
15:03.30 | haste | but mostly with json data |
15:15.21 | Gnarfoz | sb:L how is that an improvement over what quassel-webserver already does? that also uses websockets, doesn't it |
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15:34.55 | quiescens | moo |
15:35.07 | EthanCentaurai | sorry Zeldo :( |
15:41.00 | znf | ihadsomuchfreakincaffeineimsohighrightnow |
15:42.21 | EthanCentaurai | gives znf some Horlicks. |
15:45.14 | wink | calms znf down with asphyxiation |
15:45.24 | znf | kinky. |
15:53.23 | quiescens | go to sleep |
16:56.37 | Fisker | I'm getting so worried Stanzilla |
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17:07.09 | mitchnull | yo. is the ssh-key-fingerprint change on wowace legit? |
17:07.19 | EthanCentaurai | Dragon Age Origin is free on Origin if anyone cares |
17:08.39 | mitchnull | hm. what happened with the repo? new IP, new fingerprint and apparently my public key got lost, too |
17:12.13 | znf | hack |
17:12.40 | mitchnull | yeah, probably some romanian hacker |
17:14.32 | znf | wasn't me |
17:14.50 | Neffi | EthanCentaurai: "ooh let me sign up for Origin" "Password does not meet requirements." no |
17:15.17 | Neffi | game isn't good enough to perpetuate this retarded policy |
17:15.39 | znf | But all they want is APa55w0rd~!@#«»ËË |
17:16.22 | Neffi | I handed them a random 16-character password with a good mix of characters, and that doesn't meet policy. |
17:16.43 | znf | lol |
17:21.17 | quiescens | o.o |
17:21.19 | quiescens | what is the policy? |
17:22.07 | znf | sacrifice of first born |
17:29.28 | Neffi | quiescens: 1 lower case, 1 upper case, 1 number |
17:29.51 | znf | well, my "default" password is like that :P |
17:29.57 | znf | I'm pissed when they require random chars in it |
17:29.59 | znf | like, wtf? |
17:30.20 | Neffi | problem is, I can memorize 16 random characters just fine, even with lots of symbols, but I run into an issue if I try to mix capitals in there |
17:30.38 | quiescens | 1 upper case 1 lower case and a number isn't exactly an uncommon policy |
17:30.39 | Neffi | I'll just totally fail to remember the password |
17:31.01 | Neffi | doesn't mean it's sane |
17:31.36 | Neffi | they should encourage longer passwords with more varied content. these kinds of policies are just making people use shitty passwords like 1Seahorse |
17:32.16 | znf | hunter2 |
17:32.16 | znf | :D |
17:32.16 | Neffi | Hunter2* ;) |
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17:35.23 | znf | I wonder why doesn't the bnet agent just restart itself for updates? |
17:36.26 | quiescens | the agent does doesn't it? |
17:36.34 | quiescens | but the client doesn't |
17:37.43 | quiescens | the client presumably doesn't because it has chat functionality and restarting itself at will and closing people's chat windows etc is usually not well received |
17:50.48 | sb | TY BETA |
17:50.51 | Stanzilla | hi |
17:53.22 | quiescens | o/ |
17:55.15 | EthanCentaurai | Origin is so secure it is refusing to send me my two-factor code :V |
17:55.29 | quiescens | \o/ |
17:55.44 | quiescens | prevents all unauthorized access |
17:56.07 | quiescens | also prevents authorized access, but that is a small price to pay |
17:58.54 | EthanCentaurai | they sent me a code... it's invalid |
17:59.04 | Stanzilla | http://static.neow.in/images/uploaded/2014/10/screen_shot_2014-10-08_at_8.02.46_am.jpg that looks really good actually |
17:59.04 | EthanCentaurai | can't EA do anything right? |
18:08.11 | Primer | no |
18:15.04 | Gnarfoz | znf: because it'd end up not running... UAC |
18:15.08 | Gnarfoz | :) |
18:15.23 | nevcairiel | hey Gnarfoz your raid not happening? |
18:15.26 | znf | stupid uac |
18:15.32 | Gnarfoz | well, or put otherwise, it wouldn't be able to change its files at whichever step that happens |
18:15.45 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: not for me at lest, I'm leaving the office now |
18:15.49 | nevcairiel | oh |
18:15.57 | nevcairiel | you need to work less |
18:16.02 | Gnarfoz | some guy I emailed took a chance and called at 18:27 or so |
18:16.06 | Gnarfoz | and I was dumb enough to answer xD |
18:16.12 | Gnarfoz | just got off the phone a couple of minutes ago |
18:16.46 | Gnarfoz | but at least I learned that aacraid (adaptec raid controller driver) marks the devices it passes to the kernel as removable |
18:17.01 | Gnarfoz | (for... reasons I also know now, but... yeah.) |
18:17.19 | Gnarfoz | our monitoring system was not collecting stats for some of those, because it skips removable devices |
18:17.29 | quiescens | go to sleep *foz o.o |
18:17.49 | nevcairiel | i've had a driver like that, totally stupid, as it messes with some windows things as well |
18:17.53 | Gnarfoz | guy who called writes it (or at least works on it) and he was very confounded why those disks might be skipped by the gatherer |
18:18.05 | Gnarfoz | it's intentional, to make Linux not do certain things |
18:18.17 | Gnarfoz | http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0602.2/1231.html |
18:18.27 | Gnarfoz | at least we got to the bottom of that |
18:18.52 | Gnarfoz | the other issue was that the time in the montoring system seemed to be off by an hour, but it's apparently just a weird display issue our installation has |
18:19.13 | Gnarfoz | the emails it generates and the log files have the correct timestamps |
18:19.15 | Gnarfoz | so whatever |
18:19.24 | quiescens | timezones! |
18:19.27 | quiescens | its always timezones |
18:19.28 | Gnarfoz | going to be replaced with a fresh installation on a newer, way more powerful box soon, anyway |
18:19.37 | quiescens | 8086? |
18:19.48 | Gnarfoz | 68000 |
18:20.27 | Gnarfoz | I guess I could put the o-rings on my work keyboard before I go... only takes half an hour or so and I don't have to do it during office hours tomorrow, when people mighty ask wtf I'm doing :p |
18:20.46 | nevcairiel | but thats another half hour you're at work |
18:21.01 | Gnarfoz | right, but it's on the clock! ;p |
18:21.08 | Gnarfoz | yeah I'll not do that |
18:21.13 | Gnarfoz | not tonight at least |
18:21.30 | Gnarfoz | weirdly enough, the 2 mm o-rings that made my mx blues at home barely usable, work almost identically to the 1.6 mm ones |
18:21.35 | Gnarfoz | I' |
18:21.50 | Gnarfoz | I'll have to pick which ones' sound I like best ;-) |
18:21.57 | Gnarfoz | and quassel-webserver desperately needs tab completion |
18:22.32 | Fisker | hey nevcairiel |
18:22.36 | Fisker | I want to s l e e p |
18:22.40 | Gnarfoz | do eet |
18:22.47 | nevcairiel | indeed, just do it |
18:33.28 | quiescens | go to sleep |
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18:33.33 | Fisker | 3 hours left |
18:36.19 | Stanzilla | penis |
18:36.36 | EthanCentaurai | get off of Stanzilla's PC |
18:36.55 | nevcairiel | on a addon development note, blizzard sure picks silly times for maintenance, its always in the productive evening hours! |
18:37.29 | nevcairiel | no wonder i keep doing that during my work hours :p |
18:38.14 | EthanCentaurai | what's a work? |
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18:51.18 | Megalon | a work is a thing you exchange for a money |
18:51.32 | Megalon | e.g. clicking a peon generates 2 work |
18:51.46 | EthanCentaurai | clicks on znf. |
18:52.01 | EthanCentaurai | ok now what |
18:59.53 | Megalon | have to click multiple times on the lazy ones :< |
19:00.55 | EthanCentaurai | clicks on Ackis several times. |
19:01.27 | Ressy | click harder to kill him. |
19:02.47 | znf | nevcairiel, so, I have an issue with bt |
19:03.08 | znf | I have an ability on the "9" button |
19:03.09 | nevcairiel | pebkac |
19:03.22 | znf | I try to press it, I see the "pressing" animation, but the ability doesn't go off |
19:03.24 | znf | same thing with clicking |
19:03.44 | nevcairiel | put it another button |
19:04.30 | znf | hmm, that doesn't work, either |
19:04.54 | nevcairiel | disable BT, see the blizzard UI have the same problem? |
19:04.57 | nevcairiel | your ability is broken! |
19:05.02 | znf | I had this happen before |
19:05.08 | znf | if I reload UI, it works |
19:05.37 | nevcairiel | the clicking of buttons is 100% secure blizzard code |
19:06.06 | znf | https://gfycat.com/QuaintGleefulDegu |
19:06.36 | Stanzilla | you probably have error messages hidden |
19:06.38 | Stanzilla | and it tells you something |
19:06.59 | znf | and why does it work after a reloadui? :P |
19:07.14 | EthanCentaurai | blame Masque |
19:07.56 | Stanzilla | maybe you clear your target with a reload ui |
19:07.57 | Stanzilla | or focus |
19:08.00 | Stanzilla | and it's macro? |
19:08.55 | znf | it's a macro, but it's /cast [@player]Power Word: Shield |
19:09.55 | EthanCentaurai | delete the macro and use auto-selfcast |
19:20.08 | Stanzilla | http://cvsweb.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/usr.bin/head/head.c?rev=1.18&content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup |
19:20.12 | znf | EthanCentaurai, that wouldn't work. I use auto-assist from BT |
19:20.45 | znf | now that's an old bug |
19:22.14 | haste | Stanzilla: no way to actually see the diff :P ? |
19:22.24 | haste | ah there |
19:22.27 | Stanzilla | I'm still looking for it |
19:22.28 | Stanzilla | where |
19:22.35 | Stanzilla | cvs is horrid |
19:22.40 | haste | http://cvsweb.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/usr.bin/head/head.c.diff?r1=1.17&r2=1.18&f=h |
19:22.49 | haste | return to head.c and diff |
19:22.58 | Stanzilla | ah, nice |
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19:29.11 | sb | nevcairiel: YES, this maint. sucks |
19:29.31 | nevcairiel | i'll just do addon stuff tomorrow morning |
19:29.48 | nevcairiel | you can craft a few fish icons for me if you're bored! |
19:30.56 | EthanCentaurai | downloads GIMP. |
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19:31.26 | haste | gimps EthanCentaurai. |
19:31.30 | EthanCentaurai | dies. |
19:32.08 | haste | I've used gimp for so many years now |
19:32.19 | haste | and I still don't fully understand how something simple as selections work |
19:32.29 | nevcairiel | selections are magic |
19:32.33 | EthanCentaurai | I used to use Paint.net until recently. |
19:32.56 | haste | don't think paint.net runs very well on Linux |
19:33.19 | EthanCentaurai | probably not |
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19:37.26 | sb | nevcairiel: no - more dry coding (breaking stuff) |
19:42.30 | Gnarfoz | don't be hastey |
19:42.36 | Gnarfoz | what's the problem with selections? |
19:43.22 | Megalon | click selection tool > select stuff? |
19:43.29 | Gnarfoz | brb |
19:43.38 | Kalroth | i select you |
19:43.38 | znf | selects gna |
19:43.40 | znf | damn you |
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19:43.53 | Megalon | selects all the *fozs |
19:43.57 | Kalroth | selects Gnarfoz before znf |
19:44.00 | Kalroth | ffff |
19:44.47 | Megalon | uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu |
19:50.42 | znf | Update failed (error: 7)An error occurred while checking for updates: Programul de instalare a întâmpinat eroarea 0xc0000374. |
19:50.44 | znf | the fuck, Chrome |
19:50.48 | znf | since when are you bilingual |
19:51.28 | nevcairiel | is that romanian? |
19:51.35 | znf | yeah |
19:52.00 | nevcairiel | reads like s ome weird variation of a western language |
19:52.24 | znf | well, it is a latin language... |
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20:09.53 | Gnarfoz | it's actually a romance language |
20:10.17 | Gnarfoz | (which still stems from Latin, just not "that way" ^^) |
20:12.50 | Gnarfoz | oh god, you have old and new orthography and they have different kinds of diacritics & umlauts |
20:12.52 | Gnarfoz | wtfff |
20:13.27 | Gnarfoz | Å != È |
20:14.21 | Gnarfoz | also Ã, î, and â |
20:14.30 | Gnarfoz | (but not à anymore!) |
20:15.08 | Gnarfoz | time to switch keyboards |
20:15.49 | znf | no |
20:15.54 | znf | the correct is È |
20:16.09 | EthanCentaurai | I only see rectangles. |
20:16.10 | znf | you're getting it all wrong :D |
20:16.17 | znf | EthanCentaurai, l2utf-8 |
20:16.32 | EthanCentaurai | l2engrish |
20:16.36 | znf | Gnarfoz, we have âÄÈÈî ÃÄÈÈà |
20:17.02 | Gnarfoz | huh? how was I wrong |
20:17.18 | znf | Gnarfoz, Å was never correct, but we lacked support for È for years in Windows (as an example) and in fonts |
20:17.20 | Gnarfoz | I didn't say anything about which of the 's' was right, just that one is not the same as the other |
20:17.25 | znf | yeah it is |
20:17.36 | Gnarfoz | what is? |
20:17.38 | Gnarfoz | :| |
20:17.38 | znf | because we didn't have È support, we just used Å |
20:17.44 | znf | it's the same thing |
20:17.51 | Gnarfoz | it's not, according to Wikipedia |
20:18.02 | Stanzilla | I have to get really close to the monitor to see a difference :D |
20:18.16 | znf | Stanzilla, one is a S with a cedilla, the other one (the correct Romanian one) is with a comma |
20:18.45 | Gnarfoz | the *new Romanian one, bevore orthography reform, the other one was "correct" (eithe "too" or "instead", didn't read that far) |
20:18.52 | Gnarfoz | *before (zomg) |
20:19.16 | znf | È, formerly Å is a letter of the Romanian alphabet. In early versions of Unicode, È (S-comma) was not present in the Unicode Standard. It is also not present in the Windows 1250 (Central Europe) code page. Some texts in Romanian show it as Å (S-cedilla). |
20:19.43 | Gnarfoz | sure, but who cares about unicode implementation? it's about what your language uses |
20:19.52 | Gnarfoz | Unicode follows that :D |
20:19.54 | Stanzilla | you guys are retarded |
20:20.25 | znf | ...you're wrong |
20:20.26 | Gnarfoz | nevermind, you are right |
20:20.35 | Gnarfoz | the Wikipedia page needs updating |
20:20.56 | Gnarfoz | they're claiming different things on different pages on the same topic :D |
20:21.24 | znf | The Romanian language always used È (it's how it always we were thought in school), it's just that nobody tought of us poor Romanians, so we didn't have that char until Unicode 3.0 |
20:21.42 | znf | So, as a substitute, in "legal" documents we simply used Å (s-cedilla) |
20:21.50 | Gnarfoz | yeah, German wikipedia says that, English says something else |
20:22.07 | znf | â and î is the same sound |
20:22.09 | Gnarfoz | or it was one of the photo descriptions, I went through too many pages to find it again |
20:22.26 | Gnarfoz | yeah, but Wikipedia says after reform, I and i at start/end of words instead of A? |
20:22.28 | Gnarfoz | or something |
20:22.32 | znf | before 1990 (if I remember corectly? or whatever the reform was), we the romanian language didn't use â |
20:22.33 | Gnarfoz | that's what I meant above |
20:22.37 | znf | We used î only |
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20:23.13 | znf | But then it changed... no idea what the motivation was, so we now use â instead of î, but only if not at the beggining of the word |
20:25.38 | Gnarfoz | because an even earlier revision had ê and û, too |
20:26.30 | Gnarfoz | which were only used to convey etymological information, but since barely anyone knew latin, people fucked up the use of â, ê, û, î all the time, so they said "ok, write all of them as î" |
20:27.16 | Gnarfoz | then in 1990 they reintroduced â for not-at-start/end of word |
20:27.21 | Gnarfoz | what the hell :D |
20:28.11 | Stanzilla | should just used italian already |
20:28.26 | Gnarfoz | but that's the wrong branch of languages! |
20:28.42 | Stanzilla | don't care |
20:28.53 | Gnarfoz | just go all the way and speak binary |
20:28.55 | znf | latin root |
20:28.56 | znf | !! |
20:29.17 | Gnarfoz | well... ultimately, somehow, yes |
20:30.49 | Gnarfoz | it's not based on the Latin people learn in school when they take Latin classes |
20:31.23 | Gnarfoz | but on Vulgar Latin, which by its very nature had no official language rules |
20:32.13 | Gnarfoz | (since it was used by common people for speech, not by poets/officials/whoevers to write poems/records/documents) |
20:34.15 | nevcairiel | as expected, a sad small amount of WoW panels at the con |
20:35.07 | nevcairiel | in general kinda low amount of panels it seems |
20:46.40 | Gnarfoz | sb: https://play.google.com/music/m/Tssf7afg45dfsx3yi2ehricez3a (from the re-recording of Ecliptica) |
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20:50.24 | MysticalOS | what would they discuss at wow panels "here is stuff we showed you last year, sorry we're so far behind on wod" |
20:50.37 | MysticalOS | better to avoid subject :) |
20:50.50 | Funkeh` | lol |
20:51.45 | znf | >World of Warcraft - Items, Class Changes, and More |
20:51.54 | znf | I'm guessing that's what they're saying there :D |
20:51.59 | znf | here's last year's stuff |
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20:52.13 | znf | I'm almost thinking of not buying the virtual ticket |
20:52.46 | znf | >Warlords of Draenor Cinematic Intro00:15 - 01:15 |
20:52.51 | znf | ...one hour for that? O.o |
20:53.28 | MysticalOS | 1 minute |
20:53.40 | MysticalOS | 15 seconds in to 1 minute 15 seconds? |
20:54.08 | znf | ...thats' my local time |
20:54.15 | nevcairiel | they might talk about the creation of the intro or something |
20:54.39 | MysticalOS | lets just hope they don't announce their faster expansion plan of reducing content to 2 tiers. just what we need is one 6 month tier and one 12 month tier, instead of 2 6 month and 1 12. ensuring we spend 66% of expansion in a single tier instead of only 50% |
20:54.49 | znf | heh |
20:54.53 | znf | nah, MysticalOS |
20:54.55 | znf | single tier only |
20:54.58 | znf | cheaper expansion |
20:55.00 | znf | like, 5⬠|
20:55.00 | znf | :D |
20:55.07 | znf | and you get 1 level / expansion |
20:55.32 | znf | I'm actually curious if they will do levels above 100 in the next expansions |
20:55.39 | nevcairiel | they did say it looks like they may hold up their faster development goals this time |
20:55.51 | nevcairiel | they did admit that it didnt catch on yet, afterall |
20:55.57 | Megalon | next expansion they will expand number crunching |
20:56.08 | znf | (or will they come with up some sort of alternate leveling system) |
20:56.10 | Megalon | and crunch down the level numbers, as they are getting big and ridiculous |
20:56.16 | Megalon | after lvl100 you'll be lvl2 |
20:57.06 | MysticalOS | they said they may reduce expansion content to 2 tiers to allow teams to move to next expansion faster. but that'll be even worse if they do it. cause it won't avoid last tier being too long, it'll just reduce good paced tiers into 1. |
20:57.20 | MysticalOS | they just need to work out logistics to keep live and expansion pace propper |
20:57.48 | znf | we need to move to 4 tiers! |
20:58.18 | nevcairiel | the next raid tier will likely be nearly done by the time WoD is released, so if they moved to the next expansion by then already, its unlikely that they would need another 12 month span |
20:59.07 | MysticalOS | hopeful thinking, but we'll see. |
20:59.27 | nevcairiel | afterall, the level designers and whatnot have been done with WoD for a while already i bet |
20:59.54 | znf | this could have gone better if they didn't rush 5.0 and 5.2 |
21:00.06 | znf | (I personally felt 5.2 a bit rushed) |
21:00.13 | MysticalOS | if that's the case, it may make the expansion after WoD faster but only as a result of WoD being so late. if next one is fast then one after it may turn into wod again |
21:00.23 | MysticalOS | 5.2 was rushed, they said they wn't make mistake of ending first tier too early again |
21:00.24 | Funkeh` | 5.2 did seem too quick |
21:00.45 | MysticalOS | the number of guilds that killed heroic sha was quite low |
21:00.50 | znf | oh, I mean the first tier was rushed, but so did the second |
21:01.00 | znf | could have stayed in ToT for 1 more month |
21:01.08 | MysticalOS | yes one more month of ToT |
21:01.08 | nevcairiel | how can the first tier be rushed, its at the beginning of the expansion |
21:01.21 | MysticalOS | first tier ENDING too early |
21:01.24 | znf | nevcairiel, I mean the "ending" of the tier :P |
21:01.45 | MysticalOS | ToT could have also lasted a little longer, not sure a whole month |
21:03.17 | znf | I liked their middle-of-the-road patches though |
21:03.21 | znf | should have done a 5.5 |
21:03.26 | MysticalOS | whwat they'll do this time, they are going to hold blackrock foundry longer, and let heroic highmaul progression last longer without benefiting from higher ilvl gear/tear that's in blackrock |
21:03.45 | MysticalOS | tier* |
21:03.57 | znf | maybe they could have kept the stupid island for 5.5 |
21:04.20 | MysticalOS | they'll basically make blackrock foundry actually feel more like second tier instead of concurrent tier 1 with superior gear like heart of fear was |
21:04.23 | nevcairiel | meh, every raid patch needs some kind of outdoor content to go with it |
21:05.14 | MysticalOS | heart of fear even came out too early cause it just dropped MSV progression to get better gear, tier, then go back to MSV with it being a lot easier all of a sudden. |
21:05.55 | znf | indeed |
21:06.14 | znf | I don't remember if we actually bothered with MSV at all when hof came out |
21:06.23 | znf | we were busy progressing there |
21:07.00 | znf | and we never really got back there unless on alts, because we were progressing in the new places in our main raids |
21:07.08 | znf | there was no reason to go back for inferior gear |
21:08.20 | MysticalOS | we went straight into HoF and focused on progression there until another guild went after MSV realm first, then we went back there and took the realm first with our HoF gear advantage, quite easily |
21:08.49 | nevcairiel | didnt HoF open later, how could you go straight there |
21:08.56 | MysticalOS | it opened like 2 weeks later |
21:09.28 | MysticalOS | ie before most guilds were done with MSV. it basically ended reasons to be in MSV though |
21:09.44 | MysticalOS | msv was only 502 with 0 tier |
21:09.47 | MysticalOS | HOF was 509 with tier |
21:10.12 | nevcairiel | they didnt say yet when foundry opens, did they |
21:10.17 | MysticalOS | nope |
21:10.17 | Gnarfoz | HoF was 4 weeks after MSV |
21:10.31 | nevcairiel | not this year, then |
21:10.44 | Gnarfoz | (and ToES 2 weeks after that) |
21:10.56 | MysticalOS | but when olivia said "I hope at least 8 weeks" and watcher said "yeah that's about what we're looking at" |
21:11.24 | nevcairiel | yeah that would end up being like end of january |
21:11.28 | nevcairiel | seems like a ok time |
21:12.29 | Repo | broker_durabilityinfo: 03iceeagle 07master * v1.19-1-g06f74f5 (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] update for WoD beta |
21:12.36 | Repo | big-wigs: 03funkydude * r12031 Core/BossPrototype.lua: Bump to force a re-zip. |
21:12.42 | Repo | big-wigs: 03funkydude * r12032 Loader.lua: Loader: fix for the packager removing escape codes. |
21:12.48 | Repo | bad-boy: 03funkydude * r1234 BadBoy.lua: anti-spam update |
21:12.54 | Repo | mapster: 03Nevcairiel 07WoD * 1.5.6.1-30-g2b51e94 FogClear.lua: [+1 commit] Update fogclear data from latest beta build |
21:12.59 | Funkeh` | good morning repo |
21:13.01 | nevcairiel | oh repo woke up |
21:13.05 | nevcairiel | old commits ahoy |
21:13.16 | Repo | skillet: 03bsmorgan * r367 Plugins/BeanCounter.lua: Skillet: |
21:13.18 | Repo | - Fix BeanCounter plugin initialization |
21:13.28 | Repo | skillet: 03bsmorgan * r368 (4 files in 2 directories): Skillet: |
21:13.30 | Repo | - Add filter for Altoholic item count. |
21:13.32 | Repo | - Fix width calculation for optional filtered counts. |
21:14.12 | Repo | big-wigs: 03pettigrow * r12033 / (5 files in 5 directories): frFR Update |
21:15.06 | Gnarfoz | I hate youtube concert clips where the audio is mostly on one channel |
21:15.08 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
21:22.44 | nevcairiel | whole wowace job system seems to have been down, i also got a 12 hours old PM notification mail now :P |
21:23.06 | nevcairiel | maybe it wasnt repo's fault, for once! |
21:23.17 | znf | but it was Torhal's fault |
21:23.32 | Torhal | Nope. |
21:23.38 | Torhal | I don't touch legacy stuff. |
21:23.42 | Torhal | Actually, nobody does. |
21:23.42 | znf | it's always Torhal's fault... |
21:23.48 | Stanzilla | how do you pee then? |
21:23.49 | Torhal | stabs znf with quiescens. |
21:23.49 | Stanzilla | sit? |
21:24.06 | Torhal | bashes Stanzilla around with Humbedooh. |
21:24.22 | Humbedooh | :o |
21:27.01 | Megalon | Torhal is on a spree |
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21:27.31 | znf | https://i.imgur.com/jV6HjRO.jpg |
21:27.32 | Torhal | hands Megalon a package of Willy Wonka Spree. |
21:27.50 | Megalon | yummy |
21:28.17 | nevcairiel | mmmm the new talbuk models sure are cool |
21:28.22 | nevcairiel | definitely need such a mount |
21:31.56 | znf | WoD needs flying! |
21:32.16 | nevcairiel | nonsense |
21:32.24 | Gnarfoz | anyone speak dutch in here? |
21:32.25 | nevcairiel | you need stabing |
21:32.49 | nevcairiel | asmodai and chiel |
21:32.52 | Gnarfoz | oh and I found the red Esc keycaps, totally forgot about them... they were stuffed into the box of the keyboard for home :D |
21:33.52 | Gnarfoz | yo dutchies, what does Floor say here during the intermission thing? http://youtu.be/XrUzMkOKI-k?t=2m30s :D |
21:35.25 | Gnarfoz | also, why does Metal Female Voices Fest have to be in Wieze, that's very far away D: |
21:35.54 | nevcairiel | wieze belgium? |
21:36.03 | Gnarfoz | yep |
21:37.13 | Megalon | my timeconsuming analyses came to the conclusion that she said FUCK YOU |
21:37.32 | Gnarfoz | apparently something along the lines of "no joke" :p |
21:44.23 | Gnarfoz | dang, space bar is really easy to press, I'll probably end up replacing that switch some day |
21:44.45 | nevcairiel | i have that problem on this keyboard, random spaces sneak into places sometimes |
21:48.36 | Gnarfoz | that's why there's pairings for those keys... blue/green, black/grey, brown/clear with the latter being heavier to press... but apparently not everyone's doing that ^^ |
21:49.12 | Gnarfoz | however, typing that line (first one on the keyboard :D), I had to stop and check to even notice that I was pressing the space bar for the spaces |
21:49.20 | Gnarfoz | maybe it's not such a bad thing :D |
21:49.42 | Gnarfoz | they just appear out of thin air since it's so easy to press with the thumb, I barely notice |
21:49.52 | nevcairiel | same |
21:50.04 | nevcairiel | but i also have spaces appearing when they shouldnt |
21:50.05 | Gnarfoz | I'll have to get used to it anyway |
21:50.11 | nevcairiel | mostly when i dont concentrate on typing much |
21:50.16 | Gnarfoz | yeah, entirely possibly that'll happen :D |
21:50.26 | Gnarfoz | especially since I usually rest my fingers on the keys |
21:51.00 | Gnarfoz | but either because they're new, or because of build quality somehow, they keys don't nearly give as easily as on the other one |
21:51.14 | Gnarfoz | maybe better quality control, idk |
21:51.37 | Gnarfoz | I wanted to check how long I've had the Das Keyboard, let's see... |
21:51.46 | nevcairiel | my old das and my current one feel super different, despite having the same kind of switch, supposedly |
21:51.58 | nevcairiel | sound different too |
21:52.14 | Gnarfoz | which ones do you have again |
21:52.19 | Gnarfoz | 3 and 4 (the brand new one) |
21:52.21 | Gnarfoz | or 2 and 3 |
21:52.31 | nevcairiel | i can hear the switch in the das, can practically not hear it in this one |
21:52.47 | nevcairiel | das 3 professional, i think, and a q-pad mk |
21:52.51 | nevcairiel | mk80 |
21:53.06 | Gnarfoz | ah, I thought you had two different Das |
21:53.09 | Gnarfoz | k |
21:53.26 | asmodai | mmm? |
21:53.31 | Gnarfoz | xmas 2006, apparently? I'd have thought I've had it for longer |
21:53.36 | nevcairiel | there, a dutchy woke! |
21:53.46 | Gnarfoz | :D |
21:54.10 | nevcairiel | they are both brown switches when i remove the keycaps, still wonder why the switch sound is just so much louder in the das |
21:54.19 | Gnarfoz | although 8 years is quite a bit of time in IT things... I think I replaced literally every other part of my computer setups since then (some even twice or more times) |
21:54.23 | asmodai | Gnarfoz: As far as I understand it she says/sings "klein grapje" |
21:54.31 | asmodai | Literally: (a) little joke |
21:54.40 | asmodai | Referring to the guitar riff |
21:54.54 | Gnarfoz | ah, other guy said something similar, yours makes more sense |
21:55.00 | Gnarfoz | (because he said "no joke") |
21:55.15 | asmodai | You recognise the guitar riff just before she said it? |
21:55.35 | Gnarfoz | I don't know what it's from, but it's easily recognizable |
21:55.39 | Gnarfoz | isn't it |
21:55.42 | Gnarfoz | Pippi Langstrumpf |
21:55.45 | asmodai | yep |
21:55.46 | Gnarfoz | k |
21:55.47 | asmodai | Right on the mark |
21:56.01 | Gnarfoz | brain woke up for a second |
21:56.02 | Gnarfoz | ;) |
21:56.13 | nevcairiel | can send it back to sleep now |
21:56.28 | Gnarfoz | good idea |
21:56.44 | asmodai | And a bit later she says something like "'k Ben een Pippi Langkous" - I'm a Pippi Langstrumpf |
21:57.07 | Gnarfoz | hehe |
21:57.38 | Gnarfoz | my keyboard is almost as old as that recording ;D |
21:58.05 | harl | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ys__bHhhl6Q |
21:59.21 | asmodai | Despite being Dutch I'm only a so-so fan of either After Forever or Within Temptation. I prefer Anneke van Giersbergen (ex-The Gathering) more. That or Cristina Scabbia from Lacuna Coil. Or heck, Elize Ryd from Amaranthe. |
22:02.47 | Gnarfoz | there's more than enough choice available, luckily :D |
22:03.21 | Gnarfoz | I like live guest appearances from similar (but different) bands a lot ^^ |
22:04.17 | Gnarfoz | Anneke for example appears on Within Temptation's Black Symphony; and obviously YouTube is full of such things... with a wide range of audio quality |
22:04.54 | harl | yep |
22:07.34 | Gnarfoz | if I had a Female-fronted Metal playlist, all of those singers/bands you listed would be part of it, asmodai :D They're all pretty amazing |
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22:45.19 | Gnarfoz | how great is this :O https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1EEcCOGSDg |
22:46.40 | znf | Gnarfoz, what does Multistrike do in WoD for Prot Paladins? |
22:46.57 | Gnarfoz | I have zero clue |
22:46.58 | nevcairiel | doesnt it do mostly the same shit for everyone? :P |
22:47.04 | Gnarfoz | probably the same as for everyone? |
22:47.05 | Gnarfoz | :o |
22:47.20 | Stanzilla | yes |
22:51.07 | Stanzilla | shake it off |
22:55.16 | znf | Didn't they say that it will have some defensive utility for tanks? |
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22:56.26 | nevcairiel | i dont remember hearing about that |
22:56.33 | znf | ... |
22:56.40 | nevcairiel | not every secondary stat is good for everyone |
22:57.04 | nevcairiel | its a threat/damage stat mostly, just like all the others |
22:57.17 | znf | I remember a blue saying that it will be useful in some way. |
23:00.03 | nevcairiel | supposedly there are spec-specific passives that somehow interact with multistrike for tanks |
23:00.11 | znf | Yup |
23:00.16 | znf | But I can't seem to find details |
23:01.59 | nevcairiel | http://wod.wowhead.com/spell=159374 ? |
23:02.27 | nevcairiel | since you asked for paladins |
23:03.23 | znf | mhm |
23:03.38 | znf | Doesn't that sound OP? :D |
23:03.48 | nevcairiel | http://wod.wowhead.com/spell=159362 warrior |
23:04.42 | znf | others? :D |
23:05.38 | nevcairiel | http://wod.wowhead.com/spell=159232 druid |
23:06.11 | znf | that doesn't sound much |
23:06.40 | nevcairiel | i'm not sure how to interpret the wording at the end, does that mean it stacks, or just the duration extends? |
23:06.43 | nevcairiel | kinda weird |
23:07.31 | znf | if it doesn't stack it's kind of sucky |
23:07.46 | znf | maybe the % goes up in some way and the tooltip data mined is wrong |
23:07.55 | nevcairiel | DKs have this http://wod.wowhead.com/spell=165394 |
23:08.36 | znf | http://wod.wowhead.com/spell=120272 |
23:08.42 | znf | I think that's for Monks |
23:09.04 | nevcairiel | seems rather offensive |
23:09.24 | znf | don't see anything esle about multistrike for brewmaster |
23:09.38 | nevcairiel | http://wod.wowhead.com/spell=124502 ? |
23:10.02 | nevcairiel | values in tooltips seem generally off :p |
23:10.15 | znf | or this? http://wod.wowhead.com/spell=124502 |
23:10.16 | znf | yeah |
23:12.59 | nevcairiel | lets see if the beta is back up already |
23:13.23 | nevcairiel | ah it is |
23:16.02 | nevcairiel | hm yeah its only 2% for druids in game right now |
23:16.05 | nevcairiel | that feels weak |
23:17.27 | nevcairiel | ah it stacks |
23:17.55 | nevcairiel | was at like 12% when i finished fighting this elite |
23:18.32 | nevcairiel | with only 5% multistrike in bear form |
23:19.06 | nevcairiel | anyway, zzz time |
23:39.39 | Talryn | If you tag an add-on as interface 60000, the Curse Client would no longer download the alpha version? |
23:45.25 | Funkeh` | Seeing as the beta loads old TOC files fine, I wouldn't bother trying to find out |
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23:58.22 | Gnarfoz | lalala |
23:58.26 | Gnarfoz | sleep tiems? |
23:58.53 | Gnarfoz | they should just stop at build 19k |
23:58.59 | Gnarfoz | nice round number ;-) |