IRC log for #wowace on 20141007

00:00.39NeffiI'm high on life, man
00:02.13znfworst drug ever
00:02.27znfoh dear god, this hdd restoration is slow as hell :-(
00:47.12Gnarfoznevcairiel: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/blackmoore/Hooloofoo/feed
00:47.49Gnarfozand the Zesqua corpse is still here on my realm
01:18.14Gnarfozoh and the 4 item one finished, too, that was quick (was missing 2/4)
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02:19.30RessyRepo upset again?
02:29.35quiescenso.o
02:33.36quiescensthis.. server seems to be responding with "newline, carriage return", lineendings
02:33.49quiescensso stupid
02:42.27quiescensi blame *foz
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03:55.12Gnarfozsb: http://gfycat.com/LimpingThriftyEastsiberianlaika :D
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06:31.52quiescensnerf *foz
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07:24.28nevcairielGnarfoz: grats
07:29.33asmodainevcairiel: cannon sucks due to lag, even if you consistently time the drop of the wings at just the edge of the pier you either hit bullseye or just outside :\
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08:01.11sbGnarfoz: so? :p
08:01.16sbis this yours?
08:12.00quiescenswouldn't that be somewhat distracting
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08:37.30sbwoah, thank you DPD :D
08:37.49sbdelivery failed because i was not at home - did a redirect to work (1 package)
08:38.13sbnow i have 2 packages (1 was expected for today - first delivery)
08:38.45nevcairielhow did they know where your work is
08:40.30sbno, i did the redirect
08:40.33sbneuzustellung.de
08:40.44sbso the second delivery of package 1 would be work
08:40.57Megalonso you duped in reallife
08:40.59sbbut they also applied this to the other package
08:41.39sband i hope our secretary doesnt read whats on the package / sender names :D
08:41.54nevcairielare you buying dirty things?
08:42.03Megalonyou shopping buttplugs again?
08:42.07Semlarin discrete packaging
08:42.08Kalrothtmi
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08:42.38Kalrothis that inflatable unicorn again
08:42.50sbugh, how do you know :(
08:43.32Megaloninflatable unicorn buttplug
08:48.19FiskerStanzilla
08:48.23Fiskerhttps://play.google.com/store/devices/details/Moto_360_Black_Leather?id=motorola_moto_360_leather_black
08:48.25Fiskerwhen it happens
08:48.59sbleather?
08:49.07Megalonis the prehappening happening yet?
08:49.21sbare you really happy with the battery life? :|
08:52.06StanzillaI really would not buy a "gen1" smartwatch
08:52.14Stanzillanot about hearing so much bad stuff about them
08:52.18Stanzillaespecially the moto360
08:52.30sbyup
08:52.44Semlarmy casio can only go ten years on a single battery
08:53.11Megaloncasio #1 smartwatch
08:53.20Semlar#1 dumbwatch
08:53.40Megalonyou can calculate stuff on it, can't do that on a moto360
08:53.45Megaloncheckmate
08:53.57Semlaractually mine mostly just tells time and the date since i don't usually know what day it is
08:55.07Semlarso do smartwatches serve any purpose other than not requiring you to take your phone out of your pocket to check something
08:56.31sbyou can talk to it
08:56.46Semlarbut then i just look like a crazy person
08:57.04Semlarmuttering into my wrist
08:58.49FiskerI'll buy you Stanzilla
08:59.06StanzillaI'm expensive
09:01.20Megalonyou misspelled michael knight
09:33.17Fiskerwut
09:33.22FiskerI just met a shaman with no storm
09:33.24FiskerNO STORM
09:33.34FiskerI had a full board as zoo
09:33.57Fiskerand a 4/5 undertaker
09:38.52winkwat
09:38.55winkhs?
09:39.02winkor why don't I understand you?
09:39.05winkor WoD talk?
09:39.10Megalonyea it's that hurensohn game
09:39.11sbHS
09:39.13Megalonhuehuehue
09:39.21sbMegalon: be nice!
09:39.45Megaloni am nice
09:40.09Megalonyou should watch me play tropico!
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09:57.05nevcairielsomeone correct me if i'm wrong, but with 6.0 you no longer queue for flex (then Normal), and just enter the instance, and as such you also can no longer shortcut to just the 4th wing?
10:08.01sbyou are right
10:09.49nevcairielthat opens other questions tho, my understanding was that its going to be loot locked (can kill bosses X times, only get loot once), but how does it determine which bosses to put up? and what if i already cleared it, but I want to run a fresh instance for achievements?
10:09.52nevcairielquestions with no end!
10:13.25nevcairielthe answers probably are: the leaders progress, and go find a noob with no id
10:13.38Semlarreset the instance?
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10:14.19winkthrow up hands in the air and ragequit
10:14.22winklike everyone does
10:15.20sbnevcairiel: perhaps just like normal just with personal loot and flex difficulty
10:15.32sbbut that means you could kill bosses only once... mh
10:17.08nevcairieli should dig up the blue post about that
10:18.19Semlarone time we stopped our raid after killing iron juggernaut
10:18.35Semlarand when we came in the next day the gate to dark shaman was closed
10:19.15Semlarand there was no way to open it because there's like an event after you kill juggernaut and the orcs break the door down
10:20.30Semlarwe tried every conceivable way to reset the instance and the blue told us we had to just wait half an hour for it to soft reset
10:20.46nevcairielyeah thats the usualy instance bugged response
10:20.52nevcairiel-y
10:21.51Semlarif i remember correctly it was only closed on heroic difficulty
10:22.13Semlarso we tried to clear up to the boss on normal and switch it over but it just zoned us back in front of the door
10:22.56Semlarapparently door technology is too advanced for us to handle
10:25.21nevcairielhm the blue post wasnt very specific
10:29.31nevcairielbut i guess my interpretation is how its going to work, doubt Blizzard cares for those people that want to run a clean instance again, and there is always the work around to give lead to some alt that never went there before, and just kick him out after you have the clean instance
10:31.30Stanzillanevcairiel Gnarfoz sb anyone of you with a throne of thunder ID?
10:31.46sbno
10:31.58nevcairielno
10:32.12nevcairieli have a lfr id :P
10:32.21Stanzillafk
10:32.39nevcairielwhat do you want in tot
10:32.46Semlarsuper soaker
10:32.48Stanzillawanna do an achievement
10:32.53Stanzilla100 points for Semlar
10:32.57Semlar^_^
10:33.39Semlarhow far back can you extend a raid lockout
10:34.08Semlarlike if you haven't entered ToT in a month could you still extend it
10:34.58Semlarthe servers are down anyway so i can't check
10:35.51StanzillaI think it's a month, yeah
10:36.20sbnevcairiel: still no video of your laser thingy! :|
10:36.51sbStanzilla: thats the stupid jumping achievement before tortos, right?
10:37.11Semlarit's where you bounce between the water geysers before tortos
10:37.17sbyup...
10:37.53Stanzillayes
10:38.20Semlarhow does gathering work in WoD, do you still have to take up your primary professions with them?
10:43.26Stanzillafuck the geysir despawns when they pull the boss
10:43.30Stanzilla70 stacks lost :<
10:45.49nevcairielStanzilla: tried to do it in lfr?
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10:46.01nevcairieldoes it respawn when the boss is dead?
10:46.04Semlarit does
10:46.06nevcairielcna just finish the wing and stay in
10:46.40nevcairieland yes Semlar, unless you're happy with just the stuff you get in your garrison, you still need the gathering professions
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10:47.16Semlari'm not sure if you can get off jikun's platform in lfr, i've never done it
10:47.25nevcairieldie, run in
10:47.47Semlardie how though
10:47.57nevcairielmake sure the boss fight ends with you dead?
10:48.04Semlarbut it's lfr :(
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10:48.40Semlari don't know if i could manage to get myself killed in lfr, it would definitely be an effort
10:49.24Semlaralso would it let you back in after the group disbanded
10:54.04nevcairielor just do it after tortos was defeated, lfr takes ages to get through the trash to the next boss anyway
10:58.05nevcairielassuming the achiev even works in lfr, many of the raid achievs do n ot
10:58.23Semlari think it should probably still work
10:58.28Semlarit's not like the difficulty changes
10:58.48Stanzillaguess the achievement doesnt work in lfr
10:58.50Stanzillahad 260 stacks
10:58.53Stanzillano achievement
10:59.10nevcairielthere is like a blanket rule of such things not working in lfr, would be weird if they made an exception for this one
10:59.14Semlarwhoops
10:59.58Semlari guess if it's part of the meta it would make a difference
11:00.33Stanzilla"does not reliably work on folks w/ the legendary cloak as the cloak proc seems to interfere with it."
11:00.35Stanzillalol
11:01.23Stanzillaoh wait
11:01.26Stanzillathere is no achievement
11:01.28Stanzillajsut got the gun in the mail
11:01.47Semlartries to calm stanzilla down
11:01.57StanzillaALL GOOD
11:02.10Stanzillacan continnue watching sons of anarchy now
11:06.53Stanzillatotally not looking forward to doing ToT every week on 100
11:07.09Semlarwhy would you do that
11:07.31Stanzillamounts
11:07.33Stanzillaand loot from trash
11:07.59Semlarthat seems obsessive
11:08.10Stanzillano
11:08.14Stanzillathis is impressive btw http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.db.sqlite.general/90549
11:08.19Semlarbut you don't want to do it
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11:08.32Semlaryou feel compelled to
11:08.37Stanzillayes
11:09.21sbStanzilla: so want new teamspeak release with sqlite 3.8.7 AND ipv6! :p
11:09.55nevcairielbecause teamspeak needs so much database performance!
11:09.57Stanzilla2020 maybe
11:10.14Semlarew teamspeak
11:10.45Kalrothneed a teamspeak version with nosql key-value store spread over 4 amazon EC hosts
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11:13.51sbGnarfoz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGGEz9n8BdI&feature=youtu.be
11:13.52Workfozsb: Lazyfoz needs to know: what hoops do I have to jump through to get that quassel web thing going?
11:14.07sbwait some months :|
11:14.13sbbecause its unstable as hell
11:15.07sbbut i think it was just startup&works
11:15.20Workfozno development since 2013, I don't have much hope
11:15.33sb(needs node >= 0.11.13)
11:15.37sbhuh? https://github.com/magne4000/quassel-webserver
11:15.39Workfozand "just startup & works" is typical nodejs blah - how does it relaunch on server reboot, how does it drop privs, etc
11:15.51Workfozhuh, that's not the one I found via Google :D
11:16.13WorkfozI thought it was this https://github.com/sandsmark/quassel-web or this https://www.gitorious.org/webquassel
11:16.18Workfozgood thing I asked :D
11:16.29nevcairielthe first is super dead
11:16.36Workfozded... like souuu ded.
11:16.47Workfozthat video will never disappear from my mind
11:17.29nevcairielthere is a second one in addition to the one sb linked, wonder if i can find the link
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11:17.56Workfozis it newer/better?
11:18.03nevcairieldunno
11:18.06Workfozand I guess I can just install pm2 and run the installed thing
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11:31.58Stanzilla83 of 148 toybox items
11:32.01Stanzillaugh
11:32.03Stanzillaso much tcg shit
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12:19.08Workfoznevcairiel: I guess you didn't find it?
12:19.19nevcairielfind what
12:19.23WorkfozStanzilla: btw, did you go mad farming the isle for the bigger bag achievement? (or didn't you do that one?)
12:19.26nevcairieloh
12:19.27nevcairielno
12:19.29Workfoznevcairiel: the other quassel web thingamabob
12:19.37Kalrothdid you find bliss and enlightenment?
12:19.45nevcairielWorkfoz: he still didnt finish it after months of camping
12:19.48Workfozoh also nevcairiel I found 3 of the 10 glyphs on the AH :D
12:20.01Workfozat least he can camp on any char these days
12:20.07Workfozbut... yeah. fuck that achievement.
12:20.24tlundcan someone please point me in the direction of a "good" / updated list of all events?
12:20.31Workfozcan also do it later if you're really bored in WoD... I'm more concerned with not finishing all the stuff that's going away
12:20.48Workfoztlund: frame:RegisterAllEvents() - and wait :D
12:20.58tlundWorkfoz: :)
12:21.03Semlarwowprogramming or wowpedia
12:21.11Workfozthere is no documentation to speak of, so it's hard to vouch for any of the lists
12:21.34Workfozthe best you can find is probably "the least incomplete list" ^^
12:21.34Semlarif you're actually trying to figure out what happens in-game when you do something just type /etrace
12:25.44tlundno, I want to find out what event fires when I decline an LFR invitation, so I just want to read a list of all the LFR_* events
12:26.43Reposyllabus: 03LaoTseu 07master * v1.2-1-gaf4f5fc Syllabus.lua: [+1 commit] Disable spam for new trainer.
12:28.31Semlaryou're not exactly looking for an event, you can just hook the api function that declines the invitation
12:29.58Semlaror possibly the button on whatever popup that is
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12:43.10Semlartlund: hooksecurefunc('LFGInvitePopupDecline_OnClick', function() print('declined invitation') end) should tell you when you actively decline an invitation
12:43.52SemlarLFR and LFD use the same frame
12:44.19tlund(sorry, got sidetracked)
12:44.50tlundi am updating an old addon called EventNotifier, it just has a list of events, that when the trigger, starts playing an annoying sound. There is also a list of events that cancels the sound.
12:45.14Semlarwell there's an LFG_PROPOSAL_FAILED event
12:45.20tlundso the sound alerts you to getting an LFR/LFD invite, and then stops the alert when you accept/decline/timeout
12:46.01tlundyeah, going to have a look at wowprogramming/pedia now
12:46.13Semlarif anything fires, that's likely it
12:46.20Semlarthere's no guarantee that an event fires
12:47.15Semlarhttps://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source/blob/live/FrameXML/LFGFrame.lua
12:47.36Semlarit calls LFGDungeonReadyPopup_OnFail in response to that event
12:48.04tlundjust tested - both someone else declining a senario invite, and myself declining did fire LFG_PROPOSAL_FAILED
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12:54.16sbhooking LFGInvitePopupDecline_OnClick doesnt sound that bad :p
12:54.49Semlarwell i don't know if he wants to track him declining the invite or just when the window closes
12:54.58Semlarhe said declining the invite
12:55.04sbbut wait, sound should also stop when someone else declines!?
12:55.07sbor you join the raid/dungeon
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13:03.01tlundsb: yes, it should stop if someone else declines, because then the window is removed
13:03.18tlundthe sound is meant for you to alt-tab back in an click (or run in from the other room)
13:03.34tlundwhen there is nolonger anything to click, there is no point to keep playing the sound
13:04.16sbso hooking LFG_PROPOSAL_FAILED and LFG_PROPOSAL_SUCCEEDED should do it!?
13:06.02tlundsb: exactly - however, this addon has a list of around 10 different events
13:06.06tlundresurrections, gm whispers and other stuff
13:06.20tlundbut yes, LFG_PROPOSAL_SUCCEEDED was on the list and I added LFG_PROPOSAL_FAILED npw
13:06.57tlundPLAYER_UNGHOST was also missing, so the warning for receiving a ress never canceled, very anoying :)
13:07.29Semlarthat should.. probably have a timeout
13:07.33tlundyes, it does
13:07.37tlundbut it is too long
13:10.31quiescensunghost?
13:10.56tlundis there a procedure for resurrecting an old addon that no longer exists on curse?
13:11.21quiescensis unghost just a creative way to say resurrect
13:11.25tlundyes :)
13:11.38Kalrothdeghost!
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13:13.37sbquiescens: you should have some experience with unghosting!
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13:22.08tlunduuhmm. If I open the achievements pane and select "incomplete", it .. shows some completed achievements. disabeled overachiver, but the problem persists. is this a known issue?
13:22.27tlund(been away for some time)
13:24.57Semlarmaybe they're incomplete for that character
13:25.15sbWorkfoz: https://play.google.com/music/m/Bgsbimsg27rwhdtrz5lrvclpnom - old but not bad
13:26.07tlundSemlar: some of the achivements that are shown with "Incomplete" says "All of your characters have credit for earning this achievement"
13:26.37tlundone says "Earned by: <blank>" and "Not completed by : <the toon i am logged in as>" for one that i Have completed, on that char.
13:27.15tlundand thise are shown in the "normal" color
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13:27.24tlundthe ones that really ARE incomplete ae shown grayed out
13:28.05tlundmight be some other addon muckling it up :)
13:28.41Semlarprobably
13:31.32tlundhmm
13:31.34tlundWIM\WIM-r432.lua:466: attempt to call global 'GetNumGroupMembers' (a nil value)
13:32.27tlundisn't that .. the right name?
13:32.37tlund/dump GetNumGroupMembers() says "0" :)
13:35.44Semlarunless you overwrote the function
13:36.53Neffioverwrote? functions are not 10th grade essays, Semlar!
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13:40.48tlundegrep -R 'GetNumGroupMembers.?=' . | egrep -v 'lua:local' has no hits
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13:41.38Semlarprivate server?
13:41.47tlundno, live client
13:44.04Semlarwell i don't know how you managed that
13:51.37Workfozfuckity fuck, I chose the wrong option during update and overwrote Apache's ssl.conf with somethign else
13:51.53tlundreturn _G["ITEM_QUALITY_COLORS"][GetLootThreshold()].hex has stoped working and return _G["ITEM_QUALITY_COLORS"][GetLootThreshold()] is now a table. what is the correct way to get the hex string?
13:52.38Neffitlund: search for `setfenv`
13:54.07nevcairieltlund: that should've always been a table if .hex worked before :P
13:54.44tlundnevcairiel: well, now it returns nil for me?
13:54.58tlundif i just /dump _G["ITEM_QUALITY_COLORS"][GetLootThreshold()] i can see it :)
13:56.04nevcairiel./dump _G["ITEM_QUALITY_COLORS"][GetLootThreshold()].hex works for me
13:56.47tlunduhh.. yeah, me too. i must have miss-pasted :(
13:56.56tlund..but I did get an error from an addon
13:57.18nevcairielyou should really just replace your addons instead of fixing 10+ abandoned addons :D
13:58.57sbWorkfoz: BACKUP!?!?!
13:59.08sbor gitified /etc :D
13:59.30tlundnevcairiel: there doesnt seem to be any replacements for these :(
14:01.12Workfozsb: yeah, backup indeed
14:01.27Workfozbut doesn't dpkg usually make backups
14:02.16Workfozah there it is
14:02.28Workfozgot tricked by Debian's "mods-available"/"mods-enabled" thing
14:02.36Workfozthe latter only contains symlinks, and obviously not one to the backup
14:04.31winkmotz-enabled
14:04.35wink</rant>
14:07.17Repolibbabble-subzone-3-0: 03arith * r161 LibBabble-SubZone-3.0.lua: added new zone name from WoW 6.0.2.18988
14:16.22Repolibbabble-itemset-3-0: 03arith * r70 LibBabble-ItemSet-3.0.lua: New item sets from WoW 6.0.2.18988 added
14:20.42znfhttp://www.introducingcarrot.com/
14:22.58znf...you never know how good the modern GNU utils are until you start messing around with legacy utils like QNX's "tar"
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14:32.07winkznf: I am intrigued
14:32.28znfwink, well, preorder the carrot
14:34.46FiskerWhat's wrong with their tar?
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14:35.52Megalontoo sticky
14:37.23winkit's a tarp!
14:40.11znfFisker, it's not GNU! :(
14:40.23FiskerOk
14:40.26znfI stumbled upon their params, I had to look up the manpage to figure out :D
14:40.49FiskerTerrible
14:43.30znfjust as your face
14:43.30znf!!
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15:04.03EthanCentaurai!api GetBuildInfo
15:07.09quiescenso.o
15:11.59EthanCentauraidumps GetBuildInfo("quiescens")
15:12.09quiescens):
15:12.24EthanCentauraiI'm trying to debug you. ):
15:21.02EthanCentauraiPatch 6.0 is likely to be next week, is it worth adding a compatibility layer this late? :B
15:22.18EthanCentauraiFuck it. :V
15:22.32Repochinchilla: 03EthanCentaurai 07master * v2.6.2-9-gb915eab Modules/QuestTracker.lua: [+1 commit] QuestTracker: Enabled 6.0 compatibility code, but should still work fine on 5.4 realms.
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15:35.47znfweee
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15:36.01znffinally done my hdd clone for the car! :D
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15:42.29EthanCentaurai...why would you want a harddrive in a car
15:44.17nevcairielwhy wouldnt you want a harddrive in your car!
15:45.20znfEthanCentaurai, where else would you store navigation maps? :P
15:47.10EthanCentauraiand here I was thinking satnavs had storage as standard :V
15:51.23znfhuh?
15:51.36znfthey store it on a internal hard-drive...
15:56.04znfI don't know what they did to VMWare on Windows, but when I mouse over the options, my cursor changes like crazy between normal-arrow and the hand one
15:56.46quiescensyou broked it
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16:48.02Gnarfozwhee
16:48.06Gnarfozerm
16:48.12Gnarfozam I sending 3 messages each time?
16:48.19quiescenso.o
16:48.27Gnarfozor is that just a display bug :D
16:48.27quiescensthat is a distinct possibility
16:49.08quiescensstop spamming the channel *foz
16:49.19Megalonspamfoz
16:49.48Gnarfozapart from that, this works, then https://mediacru.sh/BguM6wNEaP6G
16:50.29quiescensyou has too many tabs open
16:50.37nevcairielGnarfoz: you are sending 3
16:51.27quiescensthat could probably be considered a bug
16:52.59EthanCentauraithreefoz
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16:53.19quiescensuh oh, now there's 3 *foz's
16:53.31EthanCentauraipretty
16:53.57Workfozirccloud seems to be popular, had to wait a couple of minutes to connect
16:54.22znfhttp://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/2ikmuz/robert_downey_jr_avengers_member_emerson_lake/
16:58.20WorkfozRDJ AMA and I want to go home?
16:58.22Workfozno way
16:58.31Workfozalthough... I don't even have a reddit account, so... whatever! :D
16:59.29nevcairielyou're still at work?
17:00.00quiescensgo home!
17:00.08quiescensgo sleep
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17:26.59nevcairielso Stanzilla, 6.0 leveling, fury or arms?
17:28.51Stanzillanevcairiel: doesnt matter much
17:29.10Stanzillaone good weapon => arms, 2 => fury, I guess
17:29.12znfquesting or dungeons?
17:29.23nevcairielsolo mostly i guess
17:29.24znfwhere's MysticalOS with his findings?
17:30.20quiescenslevel as prot
17:30.24nevcairieli never dungeon leveled anyway, and especially now with raids giving us like 2.5 weeks and the garrison growing as you level, it makes even less sense
17:30.36quiescensprot still exists right
17:30.49quiescensi don't know these days o.o
17:30.54znfquiescens, no, they scraped it
17:30.56nevcairielwould love to get into tanking again
17:30.57znfno more tanks now
17:31.03nevcairielalways loved warrior tanking
17:31.03znfwe're all dps and healers
17:31.23znfso wait, now in the garrison thingie
17:31.25znfif you're groupe
17:31.26znfif you're grouped
17:31.34znfeveryone joins your garrison (or, rather, the party leader?)
17:31.54znfor can everyone go to their own garrison even if grouped?
17:31.54nevcairielit gives you an option to join, or go to your own, afaik
17:32.00znfah, good
17:32.07znfI haven't grouped up in the beta at all
17:32.14znfso, still, grouped questing is better
17:32.35znfor, should be
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17:32.44znfthen it's grouped apex shards farming :-/
17:32.46nevcairieli got the achievement for having a visitor in my garrison when it just happened that a second person was riding into the garrison at exact same time :p
17:33.12nevcairieli hate group questing, people  never have the exact righ pace, and it annoys me
17:33.16nevcairiel+t
17:33.24quiescenso.o
17:33.28znfshould fine more people like you then :D
17:33.32quiescenswhat is the exact right pace
17:33.49znfwhen we leveled in MoP, we were pretty synced
17:34.05znfalso, it's less boring to do a straight leveling streak when grouped up
17:34.05quiescensgroup is more fun~!
17:34.09quiescensyou can laugh at whoever dies
17:34.14znfwe did 28 hours straight :D
17:34.16nevcairielnoone dies when leveling
17:34.22quiescensand try to think of inventive ways to make them die
17:34.45quiescenslike diving into the water when someone autofollows you
17:35.01znfhttp://i.imgur.com/nxxoTWr.png
17:35.01znf!@#
17:35.33znfI keep getting this
17:35.36quiescensor casting water walk when someone is jumping into water from high up
17:35.43znfboth the intel one and the amd one crash rather randomly
17:36.06nevcairielnvidia masterrace
17:36.09quiescensznf seems to break every single thing
17:36.11quiescenso.o
17:36.26znfyes :-(
17:36.31znfI'm just naturally unlucky
17:36.38quiescensgives znf a cookie
17:36.47quiescenswatches the cookie crumble
17:38.33Stanzillanevcairiel: both are super retarded to play in 6.0 btw
17:38.55nevcairieltbh i feel like fury has too many damn buttons on live right now xD
17:39.19Stanzillanah
17:39.40GnarfozI should get home and online before everyone who does scenarios tonight has gone to sleep
17:39.45Stanzillait all plays out with the right gear, it becomes a real rotation with 2pc bonus and the CDR trinket
17:39.58Stanzillabefore that it's super weird
17:40.47nevcairieli'm just used to moonkin, you dps with like 5 buttons
17:41.29nevcairieland even one less in 6.0, as they fold moonfire and sunfire into one
17:41.35Stanzillafury is like 5+talents
17:41.57nevcairielmaybe i'm using the wrong skills then!
17:42.11znfpretty sure all specs are retarded now
17:42.21znfdunno about healing, but all dps specs seem "meh"
17:43.24Stanzillain 6.0? I agree
17:43.31Stanzillabtw lol, he got trolled again https://github.com/ShareX/ShareX/issues/325
17:44.12znfwth are those
17:44.19znfwth is Index Folder
17:44.24znfwhy is there a dns changer
17:44.26znfwhat the fuck
17:44.29Stanzillaznf: it's their great plan to move difficulty of gameplay from classes to bosses because those can scale with a difficulty and classes cannot
17:44.44znfI don't want Wildstar.
17:44.48znfI play WoW, not Wildstar
17:44.56znfNext up in 7.0 they'll introduce telegraphs?
17:46.17Stanzillanah
17:46.23nevcairielnever played dps in raid, so i wouldn't know, but healing seems to get more interesting in 6.0 again, at least in theory, we'll have to see about practice
17:46.34nevcairielor rather, in WoD
17:47.16Stanzillathat's because healing was never about a rotation
17:47.25Stanzilladepth came from decisionmaking
17:47.40nevcairielyeah, but there wasnt much decision making lately
17:47.42znfin MoP it's more like healing troughoutput :P
17:47.51znfie: how much can my smart-heals heal
17:47.57znf(per second)
17:48.13Stanzillayeah and they said they hate that so they changed it
17:49.08nevcairielall i mostly do now is spread hots on everyone and use swiftmend to fix spikes, while of course keeping smart heals on cooldown, short of the swiftmend cast, there is no decisions at all :D
17:49.49Stanzillayeah
17:49.58Stanzillaalso single target heals are almost never used
17:50.02Stanzillait's all AE spammerino
17:50.11znfI looked at holy priest
17:50.12Stanzilladisc literally has a rotation
17:50.14znfI had no idea to do
17:50.16znfwhat to do
17:50.18Stanzillaholy is dead in 5.x
17:50.20Stanzillacan't play
17:50.26Stanzilladisc too strong anyway
17:50.35znfit was like, heal, flash heal, greater heal ?!??
17:50.45nevcairieli hear disc is kinda dead at 100 right now
17:50.50Stanzillayeah
17:50.56Stanzillaonly getting bandaid fixes
17:51.07Stanzillabecause it lost purpose with the "removal" of OP absorbs
17:51.08nevcairielresto druid is being traded as favorite healer, i like :p
17:51.38Stanzillayeah
17:51.48Stanzillaznf: only use holy had this tier was when you single healed garrosh heroic 10m
17:52.02Stanzillathere is a paragon video about that, that was so cool
17:52.14znfuh, it was also viable to play at Tortos (or whats his name turtle boss)
17:52.23znfonly because disc was useless there :D
17:52.28Stanzillayeah
17:52.28znfalso, and maybe malkorok
17:52.32znfbut you'd rather just sit out the priests
17:52.39Stanzillathat's not bosses you had to progress though
17:52.41Stanzillathose just died
17:52.44Stanzillano matter what
17:53.12nevcairielhm yeah disc seems kinda pointless on malkorok, you need to actually heal to get the thingy up
17:53.13znfwe struggled at malkorok heroic :D
17:53.20znfnot on the initial kill
17:53.28znfthe "farm" kills were a fuckin' pain :-|
17:53.42Stanzillaprobably only because people were retarded
17:53.46znfyup
17:53.46Stanzillaand not lack of healing :p
17:54.02znf"what do you mean you thougt there were enough people on that slice? we assigned you there"
18:01.01EthanCentauraiI have beer. Today has improved somewhat.
18:02.06Stanzillato honest, I can't even be bothered to log in to beta atm, gameplay feels so bad
18:02.44znftrue
18:03.13znfI'm not happy of the fact that most situations (for spriests) require you to completely change your rotation
18:03.20znfand go towards the things you were tought :P
18:03.34znfso you're no longer a dot class, you just do direct damage
18:04.44chosimh no prepatch this week
18:04.46chosimaybe next?
18:04.47Stanzillawell in the current state you take one of the lvl 100 talents
18:04.51Stanzillaand still dot
18:04.59Stanzillayou just take CoP for the MB CD reduce
18:05.02Stanzillachosi: 15th
18:05.06chosiah, ty
18:05.20chosithe squish is happening there, right?
18:05.24nevcairielyes
18:05.26Stanzillaznf: it's called CoP lite playstyle
18:05.31chosibtw rogues are still shit in beta
18:05.33chosinothing much changed
18:05.36chosi:>
18:05.39znfStanzilla, so, boring...
18:05.52Stanzillayeah shadow is as broken as it can be
18:06.16chosii want rogues to have less gcd and me more like a dance dance revolution class
18:06.19chosiit's so slow
18:06.42EthanCentaurainew build! \o/
18:07.27chosithis changed everything
18:07.31FiskerHey Stanzilla
18:07.35chosi*s
18:07.43Stanzillahey Fisker
18:08.17Stanzillaeverything else in WoD looks soo good though
18:08.23Stanzillamakes me sad that classes are all shit :(
18:08.26chosibtw, can i changed my deformed face yet at a barber's?
18:08.29FiskerThe local ISP here renamed their music and movie offering "<ISP> play music" and "<ISP> play Movies & TV"
18:08.35FiskerNice?
18:08.36Stanzillachosi: in betaß yes
18:08.52chosiyeah
18:09.00chosishutdown in 6
18:09.04chosioh that's what you mean by "new build"
18:09.05chosi:>
18:09.06FiskerBetass?
18:09.14chosithey better wipe
18:09.16chosi:D
18:10.27nevcairieli doubt they'll wipe again
18:11.00Stanzillayeah not goign to happen
18:11.35znfif they wipe, I'm going to be pissed
18:11.38chosielvui still behind douchebag paywall?
18:11.40znfthey only wiped from alpha to beta
18:11.48nevcairielnah they also wiped in the beta
18:11.50znfor did they do another wipe?
18:11.50znfoh
18:14.59sbserver down AGAIN
18:15.06chosisb: announced!
18:15.09chosiis it just me, or is leveling mage seriously slow and bad?
18:15.10sbi know..
18:15.15sbcant code like that :|
18:15.17chosii have all heirlooms i guess
18:15.22chosiand it's still meh
18:15.27chosiarcane is most fun, i think
18:15.36Stanzillanot for levelling
18:15.40chosibut frost and fire? so boring
18:15.54chosibut basically they're all "spam this until that procs"
18:15.55chosithat's all.
18:16.07chosioh wait i just described all classes in mop
18:16.34Stanzillawhat is happening
18:16.36Stanzillaoh ship
18:16.40Stanzillawaves back to nevcairiel
18:16.47Stanzillaat
18:16.49Stanzillaw/e
18:20.39znfI want a fuckin' HC heirloom
18:20.51znfwait, is the guaranteed heirloom spec-based?
18:20.54znfor completely fuckin' random?
18:20.56sbonly first
18:21.00sbiirc
18:21.01znf(the one we're getting in 6.0)
18:21.08znfno, we're getting another guaranteed one in 6.0
18:21.11nevcairielit only applies if you never had one
18:21.23znfpretty sure I read it applies per difficulty?
18:21.27nevcairielyes
18:21.30nevcairielbut only if you never had one
18:21.33znfI already got one in normal, but not on mythic
18:21.36znfthat's ok :P
18:21.44nevcairieland the first is spec based
18:21.58znfis there a way I can make sure it's 2H? :D
18:22.12nevcairielalthough the lvl 100  ilvl seems to be the same no matter what difficulty you got it from
18:22.33znfie: if I have a staff on, do I get a staff?
18:22.39znfor can it also roll a 1H?
18:22.47nevcairiel1h is healer i think, staff is dps
18:23.34nevcairieli've been using balance lootspec on garrosh to get a staff, but no luck so far =)
18:24.30sbno, got mace on garrosh
18:24.39sbwith shadow lootspec
18:24.44znfyeah, so did I the first time
18:24.50znfthen I got an agility axe, yay me
18:24.57nevcairielwell there are no guarantees on spec right now, i think
18:24.58chosiwhat's the currency for the next items btw?
18:25.02chosiif valor and shit are removed
18:25.03sbgold
18:25.03chosigold only?
18:25.09znfapex crystals! :D
18:25.11chosino cap on gold i guess!
18:25.11nevcairielthere wont be items anyway
18:25.20chosiyeah znf, something like that, i read :D
18:25.29znfand that's only for starter gear
18:25.30chosino seriously gold is only for the old ones
18:25.56chosii assume they're not removing the daily/weekly caps for currency to acquire gear
18:25.59chosiso what IS IT?
18:26.07znf...?
18:26.11nevcairielthere wont be raid vendor items, they dont think its required anymore, which is why the valor got removed
18:26.19znfthere's not much you can get in WoD
18:26.20nevcairielthe whole bonus roll system replaces it
18:26.22znfonly the starter gear
18:26.38znfchosi, http://i.imgur.com/zxmqDmf.png
18:26.52znfbbl
18:26.58chosithanks a lot
18:27.45chosiworking 9to5 really doesn't allow me to keep track of all the nerdy shit anymore
18:27.47chosi:(
18:28.12chosiall my money for askmrrobot
18:28.26nevcairielin any case, the crystals are the only way to get  some sort of items, and its a 3 stage thing, buy blues, upgrade twice, for loads of crystals
18:28.27chosibest thing since sliced bread
18:28.55nevcairielno weekly cap as far as i know
18:29.20nevcairiela total cap of 20000 tho, have to spend them then :p
18:29.40chosimh no weekly caps on gear progression? i don't believe you!
18:29.41chosi:>
18:29.50chosiat least for some sort of gear
18:29.57chosiwell, that's probably like crafting
18:30.10nevcairielyeah its on the same level as the highest crafted gear
18:30.16Stanzillaznf: there is never a 100% chance for staff as priest
18:30.16chosigotcha
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18:41.52GnarfozI've got my Gesundheitskarte! so much yay! ...not
18:41.58chosiwillkommen
18:42.15Gnarfozwho else was running a quasselweb? wink? quiescens? someone was. besides sb and me
18:42.23winkyup
18:42.38sbGnarfoz: with YOUR picture on it? :D
18:42.44Gnarfozyes
18:42.54sbno darthvader? :/
18:42.55chosigenieße dein ebola
18:42.59winkwhatever quasselweb is tho.
18:43.06winkit's quasselcore and quasselclient ;)
18:43.23GnarfozI gave in/up, don't currently have the time to deal with fucking with my healthcare provider  :D
18:43.26winkand it probably sounds horrible to a native english speaker
18:43.30sbwink: quasselclient as web client
18:43.33winka mix of quasar and tassel
18:43.36winkwat?
18:43.38Gnarfozwink: https://github.com/magne4000/quassel-webserver
18:43.43winknever tried that one
18:43.54Gnarfozsb: why is mine sending messages 3 times? :D
18:43.59winknice
18:44.03sbGnarfoz: no idea :o
18:44.10winky u so nodejs? :(
18:44.12Gnarfozwhich version are you running
18:44.15KalrothGnarfoz: hi so you will see this three times?!
18:44.18Gnarfozwink: yeah, that was my question, too
18:44.27winklongrunning process maybe :)
18:44.37Gnarfozwhat?
18:44.37winknodejs can do *that* I gadmit
18:44.43winklongpolling
18:44.47winksuch things
18:44.49GnarfozKalroth: no, just my own messages (and they're actually sent 3 times, not just displayed 3 times)
18:44.50winkphp would be bad
18:44.53Gnarfozanyone can do that
18:45.14Gnarfozphp no problem with php-fpm, probably? dunno what it entails, really.
18:45.58Gnarfozchosi: genieße meine Totalüberwachung, eher :(
18:46.06chosinicht krankwerden!
18:46.15chosiund mikrowellieren
18:46.19chosiund aluhut nicht vergessen
18:46.28Kalrothschmetterling!!
18:46.39sbkoennt ihr BITTE mit den ß aufhoeren? das sieht grausam aus :(
18:46.51chosischeiße
18:47.00chosinein. es gehört da hin!
18:47.11chosilanger vokal, ß - handel mit es!
18:47.29sbich weiss - aendert nichts an der tatsache dass ich den buchstaben schrecklich finde
18:47.36chosidann schreib wenigstens sz
18:47.42chosium korrekt zu bleiben :P
18:48.26sbgiev beta back now...
18:48.45sbi should just stay at home, i'm ill anyways :|
18:50.54Stanzillaßßßßßßßßßßß
18:51.22sbnice Stanzilla
18:51.38Stanzilla: = )
18:54.47sbtest
18:55.06sbGnarfoz: 2670167423920d210b25593b444785d804a8aa38
18:57.04sbjetzt HEAD (master)
18:57.08sbtut auch
18:57.25Gnarfozchosi: "ss" is the replacement for ß, if that's unavailable, not "sz"
18:57.40Gnarfozalso sb: ßßßßß get over it
18:57.59Gnarfozsb: which node version?
18:58.07GnarfozI guess I'll have to modify my keyboard layout tomorrow
18:58.20Gnarfozif TNT is actually as fast as they need to be for the keyboards to arrive tomorrow :D
18:58.29sbv0.11.13
18:58.40Gnarfozhm yeah I'm on 0.11.14
18:58.57sbhttps://mediacru.sh/gWN2JMTFSH8g
18:59.49Gnarfozadmittedly, after spending some (cough, work tiems) time on getting some nodejs shit to run, at least I know that using "nvm" and "pm2" (outside of distro package management) can work mostly fine
19:00.03Gnarfozsb: and you wrote those lines in the web client?
19:00.04Gnarfozhmm
19:00.09sbyes
19:00.21Gnarfoz$ nvm install 0.11.13
19:00.39Gnarfozoh, and gone is pm2
19:00.40Gnarfoz:D
19:02.30sbstop talking about keyboards :|
19:02.51Gnarfozle test
19:02.58Gnarfozyeah, just 1 message. :P
19:03.29Gnarfozsb: haven't bought one, yet? or can't decide? (well... you're not me, so you probably decided long ago :D)
19:03.54sbnot available and afraid i could get impatient and buy the red
19:04.01Gnarfozhaha
19:04.13Gnarfozwell I splurged, many expensive :C
19:04.19GnarfozI hope I'll like it ;)
19:04.41Gnarfozgah, first thing that needs improving on the web thing: it should catch <tab>
19:04.46Gnarfozeven if it doesn't have nick completion
19:04.57Gnarfozor you end up in the omnibox
19:06.00Gnarfozgit question: I cloned a repo, did some things (not commited) on my clone, and afterwards forked it on github... can I (and how) attach my github fork to my working copy easily?
19:06.06Gnarfozsomething like git remote add?
19:06.19Gnarfoz(or even better: replace)
19:06.26sbedit .git/config :p
19:07.04Gnarfozthat seems easy enough
19:09.12Stanzillaznf Fisker https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm_U53sxt2c
19:09.48sbnice
19:10.20Fiskerfuck that
19:10.22Fiskeroneget master race
19:10.23Gnarfozthere, totally contributing, sb: https://github.com/magne4000/quassel-webserver/pull/7
19:11.27sbGnarfoz: http://haste.db6.org/edawofiqox.diff
19:12.00Fiskerhttp://i.imgur.com/1afA9Yf.png <-priests hate him
19:15.34Gnarfozsb: did I just break your hastebin
19:15.37Gnarfoz502
19:15.45sbno
19:15.47sbreload
19:15.53sbjust moved to pm2 :D
19:15.55Fiskerpoor haste
19:15.56Gnarfozhaha
19:16.50EthanCentauraimv pm2 /haste/bin ?
19:17.53EthanCentauraisb: are they the Droid Sans Monos we've been looking for?
19:20.05sbokay, this pm2 is nice
19:20.34sbEthanCentaurai: yes
19:20.50EthanCentauraiHooray! \o/
19:22.50Gnarfozsb: yeah, I'll need to further look at its deployment feature stuff, looks promising (and halfway understandable for a non-dev like me)
19:23.16sbpm2 start ... --name && pm2 save && pm2 startup ubuntu, done :D
19:26.58Gnarfozyou only need to do the startup bit once, I think, ever
19:27.29GnarfozI don't want to log into work to check how I've got it set up there
19:27.48GnarfozI actually dislike the monospace stuff in the web client, weird
19:27.53Gnarfozlooks... odd
19:28.00Gnarfoz(also, you forgot the .nick)
19:28.11Repobad-boy: 03funkydude * r1233  (2 files in 1 directory): Activate the rbg/boosting filters.
19:28.23GnarfozI think I'll revert this back, looked better before :D
19:28.27Gnarfoz(oh and the input box, too)
19:30.06Repobadboy_guilded: 03funkydude * r204  (2 files in 1 directory): filter more ads
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19:31.52Gnarfozhm, that didn't work
19:31.58Gnarfozwhy does my quasselcore ignore my additional listen IP
19:32.48Stanzillait doesn't like you
19:33.00Gnarfoz2014-10-07 21:31:08 Warning: Could not open IPv4 interface 127.0.0.1:56667:
19:33.01Gnarfoz2014-10-07 21:31:08 Warning: Could not open IPv6 interface ::1:56667:
19:33.01Gnarfozy?
19:33.02Gnarfoz:|
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19:34.34Gnarfoz<PROTECTED>
19:34.37Gnarfozbecause this. ^
19:34.43Gnarfozok.
19:34.54Funkeh`the floodgates are open http://abload.de/img/rbgylr73.png
19:35.25GnarfozI'm always amazed that Funkeh`, as a brit, uses that German weirdo upload site
19:35.44Funkeh`I use whatever fucks me off the least
19:35.46Gnarfozhehe
19:35.52Gnarfozon that topic..
19:36.53Gnarfozjleclanche: I know it's open source and I should "just do it myself", but why can I still not paste images straight from the clipboard to mediacrush with Chrome? :(
19:37.26jleclanchebecause the main dev hasn't fixed it i would wager
19:37.35Gnarfozno way! :(
19:37.39jleclanche(he's an idiot who doesn't know how to prioritize)
19:37.55jleclancheGnarfoz: push for it on github
19:38.21GnarfozI'm not sure how, besides contributing code or being annoying
19:38.29Gnarfoz(i.e. posting "bump" on the issue)
19:38.49Gnarfozcan't vote or something like that, I'm subscribed, though
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19:53.30znf<Stanzilla> znf: there is never a 100% chance for staff as priest
19:53.33znfthat's stupid
19:53.37znfI want a fuckin' 2H
19:53.47Gnarfoznobody cares what you want
19:54.14znfYou don't really get offhands from questing :(
19:54.22znfand rarely you get a drop
20:00.56znfI'm SO bored
20:00.57znf:-(
20:01.11Gnarfozk
20:01.18Gnarfozshit I need to farm those remaining few VP ^^
20:04.29Stanzillaeez peez
20:04.34Stanzillajust hc sc
20:05.25Gnarfozyeah
20:05.32Gnarfozhave to start now, or there'll be nobody left :D
20:05.42Gnarfozit's only 300 or so, should be over quick
20:05.50Gnarfozenough tinkering with quassel-web thing
20:06.24sbyeah, better do it tomorrow :|
20:06.30Gnarfozpretty much done now
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20:06.31Stanzilla300 is like..the VP quest on the island
20:06.36Stanzilladont even need scenario for that
20:06.41Gnarfozalready did that, guess why I'm at 700
20:06.46Stanzillaok
20:06.47Gnarfoz;)
20:06.58Gnarfozwhat's the best way to handle modifications to a source tree you want to use, but also want to be able to make contributions from? :\
20:07.15GnarfozI guess branching and rebasing all the time?
20:07.23sbyes
20:07.51Gnarfozand... I can "move" my local branch somehow, right
20:07.55Gnarfozor rather, hm
20:08.07Gnarfozmake some other, new branch the tracking branch for "origin"
20:08.26GnarfozI guess just switch to new branch and add remote there
20:08.30Gnarfozand remove from old branch
20:08.39znfjust hit F5 in the browser
20:08.43GnarfozGnarfoz: :D
20:18.05znfhahaah
20:18.06znfStanzilla, https://nthitz.github.io/turndownforwhatjs/
20:18.35znfdo it on facebook :D
20:19.05StanzillaI know it
20:19.14znf:-(
20:19.14znfok
20:21.25znfactually the new tab page is the best target :D
20:21.40Repobig-wigs: 03funkydude * r12029  (2 files in 2 directories): Loader: tweak out of date warning.
20:26.47Stanzillachrome38 is final now
20:31.36Gnarfozmy keyboards are in Bristol
20:31.38Gnarfoz\o/
20:32.29Stanzillawhich ones did you order now
20:32.34GnarfozFilco Majestouch 2
20:32.52Gnarfozbuild quality-wise pretty much as good as it gets
20:33.04Gnarfozone with mx brown (work), one with mx blue (home)
20:33.42Gnarfozboth with "ninja" legends (i.e. front printed); they didn't have them pre-configured with blanks. even though they're selling blank keysets. whatever ;D
20:33.44Stanzillawhy different for home and work
20:33.56Gnarfozbecause blue is clicky, i.e. intentionally loud
20:34.20Gnarfozbrown doesn't have the click - just a similar, if weaker, tactile feedback
20:34.48Stanzillawhy would you want loud
20:34.53Gnarfozhope I'll like browns, they're a bit lighter to press than even the blues I've been typing on for the last... I don't know how many years
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20:35.12Gnarfozbecause I don't need to care and I know I like the typing feel of them
20:35.24Stanzillaalso lol 200 euro on amazon
20:35.35Gnarfoz105 GBP I think
20:35.46Gnarfozor was that without VAT
20:35.48Gnarfozmaybe it was
20:35.59Gnarfozyeah, they're expensive
20:36.09Repobig-wigs: 03funkydude * r12030 Core/BossPrototype.lua: BossPrototype: minor tweaks
20:36.45Gnarfoz150$ WASD V2 customs shipped from the US would have been only marginally cheaper, and I've seen no express praise for their build quality
20:37.24Gnarfozstill, except if I dislike one of them, I doubt I'll ever replace them
20:38.03Gnarfozmy Das Keyboard 2 is the one being replaced - not because it doesn't work or anything, it's just pretty cheaply made and is from before the dawn of time
20:38.24Gnarfozi.e. its attraction was blank keycaps, since those weren't widely (if at all) available for the average user
20:38.42Stanzillawhy did you want blank keycaps
20:38.43Gnarfozthat it had mechanical switches didn't even particularily interest me at that time
20:39.02Gnarfozthe same reason I once used the nickname you see on last.fm
20:39.16Stanzillayou wanted to be cool?
20:39.22Gnarfozpretty much? :D
20:39.31Gnarfoznobody had that at the time
20:40.14Gnarfozthe Das Keyboard 1 wasn't even mech :D my BFF still uses that, I think (but he also has a 2 at home? or at work? I forget which he uses where)
20:42.59Gnarfozyeah, 1 at work (because it's not noisy), 2 at home
20:47.20Gnarfozwtf, why is someone with this description following ME on twitter? "@SpaceX Engineer, @MIT PhD, #Canada's Greatest Know-it-All (TV show). Author (http://dld.bz/dsM6F ), Youtuber (http://dld.bz/dsMyC ), Game Designer."
20:47.25Funkeh`damn son
20:47.29znfStanzilla, I still want my answer
20:47.34Funkeh`that's a fuckton of security fixes in chrome 38
20:47.39Gnarfozweirdo
20:47.41Stanzillaare you retarded sb
20:47.43Stanzillaerr
20:47.43Stanzillaznf
20:47.44StanzillaSORRY
20:47.45Funkeh`also $27633.70 daaamn
20:47.52Stanzillaznf: answer is no
20:47.52GnarfozStanzilla: are you fuckign sorry
20:47.56StanzillaGnarfoz: IAM
20:47.57znfStanzilla, link.
20:48.04Stanzillaznf: link to what man
20:48.06GnarfozFunkeh`: for what?
20:48.09Stanzillayou dont have a 100% chance on staff
20:48.11Stanzillaend of story
20:48.24Funkeh`[$27633.70][416449] Critical CVE-2014-3188: A special thanks to Jüri Aedla for a combination of V8 and IPC bugs that can lead to remote code execution outside of the sandbox.
20:48.29znfTo wherever they said the 1H/2H is random and not based on what you currently have equipped.
20:48.37Funkeh`sandbox escape
20:48.41Funkeh`big bucks
20:48.50znfOh, that guy raked in $27k by himself? Awesome :o
20:48.51Funkeh`he rich
20:48.52Gnarfozthat's just simple logic, why would they make a special case like that and not post about it by now
20:49.03znfGnarfoz, I remember a discussion but not the outcome :D
20:49.11Gnarfozmaking a post that says it's NOT that way, however, would be weird
20:49.13Gnarfozok
20:49.38Gnarfoz27k rich? well. nice at least
20:49.42GnarfozI'd take 27k, of course :D
20:49.47Gnarfozgj Jüri
20:50.36Stanzillait was a tweet because a ele shaman asked
20:50.38Stanzillaanywahy
20:50.44Stanzillabasing it on what you have equipped is stupid
20:50.47Stanzillaand never happened
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20:55.38Gnarfozany of you Quasselers in any keyed (+k) channels?
20:56.59nevcairielnot really, but why?
20:57.12Gnarfozbecause it didn't properly restore one of those channels for me
20:57.44Gnarfozit had a buffer for it, in which I could write, but in the status window it said "cannot join #xyz, you need the correct key" and when I wrote something "cannot send to channel" (because of +n or whatever)
20:58.25nevcairielno idea, i would think that should work
20:59.23znf+n is such a funny flag
20:59.49Gnarfozis that even the right one
21:00.04nevcairielblocking external messages
21:00.05Gnarfoz("the no external privmsg" flag)
21:00.06Gnarfozk
21:00.06znfI mean, I wonder why is they needed a flag for disabling that feature; as to, why can you send messages to channels you're not on to?
21:00.12nevcairiellegacy
21:00.16Gnarfoz^
21:00.19Gnarfozalso, broadcasts
21:00.22znfyes, "legacy", but why? :P
21:00.22nevcairielnt are default flags now
21:00.24Gnarfozor whatever
21:00.31Gnarfozwhy? legacy IS the explanation
21:00.40znfok, I'm rewording that:
21:00.41Gnarfozbecause it worked differently at some time
21:01.00znfwhy did it work like that in the first place, back then...? that's my question
21:01.00Gnarfozand it was either useful to be able to do this
21:01.14Gnarfozor... nobody thought about it when it was a protocol 20 people used
21:01.28Gnarfozchances are it's a bit of both ^^
21:01.45GnarfozI mean, TeamSpeak (Mumble?) has something similar: channel commander mode
21:01.51Gnarfozwhere you can speak into channels you're not in
21:01.59Gnarfozto facilitate hierarchy
21:02.16znfMumble has linked channels
21:02.39znfwe tried to use them, didn't really fit in WoW :D
21:02.55Gnarfozsounds like something similar; I know we even used separate channels + whispers back in... whenever we raided 40 man; for very annoying "split up the raid" fights, even in 25
21:03.15Gnarfozthe main problem is that you can't easily talk to the "higher ups", but that's kind of intentional
21:03.45Gnarfoz'team 1 this channel, team 2 that channel' + raid leaders can be heard in both
21:03.57znfyou had to have 2 keybinds, which made it annoying for some people
21:03.59Gnarfoz(and themselves be either in the teams, or in a different channel)
21:04.07Gnarfozah... yeah
21:04.31Gnarfozyou can do it that way in TS, or turn it into an "always this way" mode
21:04.50znfspeaking of mumble, wish they could support 64bit games and dx11 with their overlay already :(
21:06.13znfI miss teamspeak
21:07.34Stanzillareinstalling heroes of the storm atm
21:07.39Stanzilla4gb smaller
21:07.40Stanzilla:<
21:09.35Gnarfozthey removed everything YOU liked about it
21:10.55znfI think my hots playtime is less than 2 hours :D
21:15.06znfI'll need to remind myself why I didn't object when my guild decided to go Mumble instead of TeamSpeak
21:15.06Funkeh`znf, iirc they have dx11 support now, just need the x64 support
21:15.14Stanzillait's darkmoon faire btw, 3 toy box items to be gathered
21:15.17znfFunkeh`, yeah, was talking in mumble now
21:15.18Funkeh`they also have 64bit builds now so it's just around the corner
21:15.26znf#mumble I mean
21:15.34znfhe mentioned that dx11 is in 32bit snapshots at the moment
21:16.00Funkeh`yeah, I'm there :)
21:17.30znfI made this a while ago: http://linge-ma.ws/directxopengl-mumble-overlay-holder/
21:17.42znf(with the help of a friend, dx stuff seems so damn complex)
21:17.43Funkeh`Stanzilla, wth is quasselclient and quasselcore
21:17.48znfbut it's an incovenience :P
21:18.01Funkeh`I don't use the overlay, I quite dislike overlays with the exception of the steam overlay
21:19.15StanzillaFunkeh`: it's a server/client construct that talks in their own language
21:19.18Stanzillawhy ask me though? :D
21:19.27Funkeh`you're always talking about it
21:19.36Stanzillanah
21:19.37Stanzillathat's Gnarfoz
21:19.45Funkeh`before him it was you
21:19.54Stanzillaokay
21:20.00Stanzillait was bad enough so I didn't use it
21:20.03Funkeh`so now I'm trying it
21:20.17znfwtb plugins for other clients :P
21:20.19znfie: hexchat
21:21.39Funkeh`hmm does it not have SASL?
21:24.37Gnarfozasdasdsadsad I wanted to do VPs
21:25.15GnarfozStanzilla: do I need to re-download/start the installer for hots? it's just gone from my BDA
21:25.40Stanzillayes
21:25.43TorhalGnarfoz: I moved mine
21:25.54TorhalIt was in a folder that none of the other games were in.
21:26.02Gnarfozmh, mine is with the others
21:26.03TorhalAfter I did that, it was like a 3GB download.
21:26.07TorhalAh.
21:26.08TorhalDunno.
21:26.10Stanzilla3gb is reinstall
21:26.13Gnarfozit's simply not aware of HotS even existing
21:26.14Gnarfoz:D
21:26.17StanzillaGnarfoz: if you dont want to reinstall
21:26.22Stanzillaand just want it to show up again
21:26.22Gnarfozcan't say "hey, HotS is installed.... there!"
21:26.26Stanzillahit the scan for games button
21:26.36Gnarfozhm I did when it installed the version that was introduced with
21:26.44Gnarfozrepeats
21:27.34Gnarfozyeah, now it picked it up
21:28.12Gnarfozremind me, is it offline-capable?
21:28.23Stanzillano
21:28.36Stanzillayour play button will be greyed out
21:28.39StanzillaEU gets it back on the 9th
21:28.46Gnarfozah
21:28.51Stanzillait doesnt work if you switch to US though
21:28.51GnarfozI thought greyed out when on LAN
21:28.53Stanzillawhich is retarded
21:29.02Gnarfoz(simply will throw a network error there, probably)
21:32.58Gnarfoz"east midlands airport"
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21:35.45sbStanzilla: WHAT?
21:36.25Gnarfoznot even halfway through the scenario
21:36.29Gnarfozhots finished installing
21:36.46Gnarfozfast internet is bliss
21:38.07Stanzillawtb :(
21:38.28znfwts
21:39.04Gnarfoztrade it for Stanzilla's access to Amazon.de ;D
21:46.54Repochinchilla: 03EthanCentaurai 04v2.6.3 * 1019dcc /: [new tag] Tagging as v2.6.3.
21:49.57znfwould trade
21:50.33znfAssasin's Creed games for sale on Steam
21:53.37GnarfozI wonder if they went by road or by plane from Bristol to "near Nottingham"
21:55.50Gnarfoznevcairiel: want some final island grinding
21:55.52Gnarfoz?
21:56.11nevcairieli did consider going to sleep before 3 am today, but ok!
21:56.18GnarfozI think the mobs along the ramp are actually easier to farm, haha :D we made like 2500 rep there last night in the little bit we were there
21:56.21nevcairielneed to go to the darkmoon tho and find a hat
21:56.25Gnarfozyeah, so should I
21:56.38Gnarfoz(also, less chance of randomly dying down there xD)
21:58.34Gnarfozsb: did I link earlier? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z69jg8Vm3CI ^^ although he's mashing the keys rather hard, makes all the "soft" keys sound a lot louder than they need to
22:12.01Stanzilladitched swiftkey for now
22:12.05Stanzillafor minuum
22:12.43GnarfozI tried that for an hour when it was supernew
22:12.54Gnarfozprobably not enough time for a fair assessment ^^
22:13.28StanzillaI don't use the mini mode
22:13.38Stanzillaso it looks like normal just without the swiftkey lag
22:13.40Stanzillawhich is good
22:16.12hasteStanzilla: does it support multiple languages?
22:16.51hasteoh, it doesn't even support Norwegian :P
22:18.17Stanzillano sadly not
22:28.17znfthen why would you use?
22:28.34znfyou're pretty bilingual
22:29.33znfyeah, that doesn't look stupid at all: http://minuum.com/video_/glass.mp4
22:30.35znfconcept seems interesting
22:31.52znfoh, no romanian at all
22:34.58znfYo mama is so fat
22:35.13znfmeh, I would love to have a minimized keyboard all the time
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22:37.02znfStanzilla, why didn't they make google now on chrome (desktop) pick up the stuff I get on mobile? :-(
22:42.25Stanzillait does? only notifications though
22:45.59znfDoesn't do much :(
22:46.07znfI would like to have suggested articles
22:49.47Stanzillaminuum was 1,23 €
22:49.51Stanzillacan live with that :D
22:50.03Gnarfozsorry, that's far too much for a KEYBOARD.
22:51.54znffor a keyboard that doesn't do multiple languages!
22:53.00Stanzillait kinda did english fine
22:53.02Stanzillaeven when set to german
22:53.06Stanzillaso idk what's up with that
22:53.44znfno romanian, though!
22:56.42Gnarfoz(thanks for missing the joke btw, now I has a sad)
22:57.03nevcairiel~wowalert
22:57.03purlhttp://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: Returns empty content unless there is an active alert]
23:14.00nevcairieli really like how the night effect is really coming back, thinking about it now, you never really felt a difference for a long time
23:14.59znfhttps://education.github.com/pack
23:15.01znfnice
23:27.57MysticalOSnevcairiel, that's actually what i look forward to the most
23:28.12MysticalOSdaylight at 1am really breaks immersion for me.
23:28.45Gethenight? is that only in Dreanor? I havent noticed it in Org
23:28.48MysticalOSthe reason they gave when they broke it in the first place was lame (SSAO had rendering issues in dark lightning)
23:30.15MysticalOSgethe, there are some good comparison images
23:31.03Getheive seem some of them, and i haven't seen near so much difference in Org
23:32.15znf*shrug* I honestly don't care / notice
23:32.17MysticalOSyeah they did it on a per zone basis, some zones don't look at diff at all
23:32.23MysticalOSand it's still not as dark as pre mop
23:32.39znfI didn't notice it until someone complained about it :D
23:33.11MysticalOShow did you not notice that night time was, gone?
23:34.38Getheit's great that they are bringing back dark nights, but if the major cities dont get it most wont notice
23:35.01MysticalOSstormwind got a small touch of it
23:35.09MysticalOSbare in mind too, you have to login EXTRA late in beta
23:35.20MysticalOSthey are CA time, and in wow night time isn't in full effect til like 11pm server
23:35.26MysticalOSso it's like 2am east coast to even see night time
23:36.06znfMysticalOS, I didn't care?
23:36.25znflike, I don't really look at the damn sky when I play :P
23:36.41MysticalOSit's not about caring, it's about awareness. when you walk out your front door you probably notice if it's night or day. the diff in wow was pretty much that.
23:36.47MysticalOSyou knew from looking at ground
23:36.57znfbut it's a game :P
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23:37.12Getheit's also a world
23:37.26Getheday/night is important so it feels like one
23:40.58MysticalOSthey really did very few zones though. a lot are same. they basically hack the tint of a few key places and that's about it
23:41.19MysticalOShttp://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1551951-Darker-Nights-in-the-beta?p=28212419&viewfull=1#post28212419
23:41.24MysticalOSpretty much sums up places you notice it
23:41.49MysticalOShope they continue to work on more zones
23:42.18Getheindeed
23:43.17znfhttp://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/2ik43h/belkin_firmware_update_1072014_crashing_many/
23:43.30znfSomeone explain me why the fuck does a router need some sort of heartbeat to work
23:43.48znfand, second
23:43.54znfWhy the fuck do Belkin routers auto-update?
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23:49.01znfah, scratch that, it's not a firmware update
23:57.58Stanzillabna and agent update

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