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| 00:19.51 | Stanzilla | http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/09/29/this-is-the-motorola-nexus-6-a-5-9-qhd-display-3200mah-battery-dual-front-facing-speakers-and-more/ meh |
| 00:21.33 | Stanzilla | Fisker |
| 00:28.20 | znf | 5.9 :-| |
| 00:37.08 | znf | I'm bored. |
| 00:37.10 | Stanzilla | still sure there will be a smaller verison |
| 00:37.22 | znf | You hope? |
| 00:37.28 | znf | What will it be called? :P |
| 00:37.33 | znf | Nexus 5S? :D |
| 00:37.41 | znf | 6Minus? |
| 00:37.58 | znf | Nexus 6-not-a-phablet |
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| 00:42.25 | Stanzilla | I dont care |
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| 01:37.15 | jlam | hmmm, licensing difficulties again. |
| 01:38.31 | jlam | LibDataBroker is "All Rights Reserved", so it can't be embedded in GPLed addons. |
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| 01:40.30 | jlam | So, I'm not sure how LibDBIcon is okay as-is. |
| 01:43.56 | nebula169 | tekkub said it was ok /nod |
| 01:45.32 | nebula169 | also, i'm not sure how embedding as anything to do with licensing |
| 01:45.36 | nebula169 | has* |
| 01:48.11 | jlam | It depends on the license. GPL doesn't allow embedded software to have a more restrictive license. |
| 01:48.43 | nebula169 | it's not actually embedded, it just distributed with the other addon, which relies on it |
| 01:49.20 | nebula169 | it is* |
| 01:50.28 | jlam | Lua is all source, no binaries. It embeds and uses LDB by passing complex data structures, so the terms of the GPL apply to the embedded (source) library. |
| 01:52.05 | nebula169 | hardly, the addon is simply packaged with it's dependancies, hence the jargon "embed" |
| 01:53.57 | jlam | LibDBIcon requires LDB to work properly and provide essential features. It's not "just embedding" it. |
| 01:54.56 | jlam | All I'm saying is that copyleft licensed addons are going to have problems using libraries that are not also copyleft licensed. |
| 01:54.58 | nebula169 | so? can't load if it's not present, it in no way incorporates ldb's code to function |
| 01:57.15 | jlam | It requires LDB to function, and the distribution directly includes it in the addon package. I'm not sure I understand your argument that it's using LDB without "incorporating" it. What do you mean by "incorporating" LDB? When would something be iincorporating LDB? |
| 01:57.25 | Neffi | From the GPL FAQ: "If the modules are included in the same executable file, they are definitely combined in one program. If modules are designed to run linked together in a shared address space, that almost surely means combining them into one program." |
| 01:58.09 | Neffi | Packaging them together is fine. It's the nature of being linked together in the same address space that's the problem |
| 01:58.25 | Neffi | Technically I don't believe the GPL is valid *at all* for WoW addons |
| 01:58.34 | nebula169 | indeed |
| 01:58.45 | jlam | Right, I don't think GPL works at all for WoW addons. |
| 01:58.50 | Neffi | We run on the assumption that there's an implied exception |
| 01:58.57 | jlam | I'm pointing out the problem with it in this simple case. |
| 01:59.02 | Neffi | Because if there wasn't an implied exception, the use of the GPL would be invalid |
| 01:59.25 | Neffi | Therefore, I think it's safe to extend that implied exception to this case, jlam, especially if the author OKs it |
| 01:59.32 | jlam | The use of GPL is valid. But all of your addons have to only use permissive OSI licensed libraries. |
| 02:00.30 | nebula169 | i use don't agree with the idea that since wow addons can be packaged together, that makes libraries into a "module" |
| 02:00.36 | nebula169 | s/use/just/ |
| 02:00.55 | nebula169 | you can certainly run everything standalone |
| 02:01.23 | Neffi | I don't think that's the problem here, tbh |
| 02:02.04 | jlam | Well, I explicitly asked Tekkub about using LDB in another GPL addon, and he said not if it would force LDB to submit to the terms of the GPL, which it would since the addon would be using LDB pretty intrusively to allow it to talk with LDB displays. |
| 02:02.32 | nebula169 | sure it is, a free program can access a non-free api and not have it's license violated |
| 02:02.58 | nebula169 | which is all that is happening |
| 02:03.08 | jlam | but GPL is not "free" in the sense that you're thinking. |
| 02:03.16 | nebula169 | was an overgeneralization |
| 02:24.28 | nebula169 | funny to see this same topic came up years ago and ace and many libs was relicensed because of it (to lgpl or mit), basic consensus was blizzard owns everything, ignoring that, every addon would have to gpl-compatible since they all share the same address space, ignoring that fuck the technical specifics and respect the spirit of the licenses |
| 02:27.11 | quiescens | o.o |
| 02:28.08 | quiescens | shrug |
| 02:31.45 | jlam | I don't think it's enough to respect the spirit of the licenses. They're licenses with legal meaning with quite a lot of precision in their wording. We should strive to make sure people use appropriate licenses on their code, especially in the case of libraries. |
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| 02:40.12 | nebula169 | the point is moot because there is no real legal recourse, also java with bundling jars is a similar situation with no clear answer or legal judgement |
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| 07:20.55 | nevcairiel | morning |
| 07:21.19 | quiescens | o/ |
| 07:21.55 | mitch0 | yo |
| 07:27.38 | Fisker | hey nevcairiel |
| 07:27.43 | nevcairiel | hey Fisker |
| 07:27.44 | Fisker | hope has been abandoned |
| 07:27.46 | Fisker | prepare your pockets |
| 07:27.54 | Fisker | http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/09/29/this-is-the-motorola-nexus-6-a-5-9-qhd-display-3200mah-battery-dual-front-facing-speakers-and-more/ |
| 07:28.12 | nevcairiel | not buying a 6" phone |
| 07:33.54 | haste | might buy a 5.9" phone :P |
| 07:35.17 | Fisker | GOing to buy it |
| 07:35.19 | Fisker | Not going to like it |
| 07:39.03 | wink | lol |
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| 07:47.06 | nebula169 | big phones are weird, not sure how people use a galaxy note or iphone6+ |
| 07:52.28 | wink | when I was in .sg/.hk in 2012, 90% of the people on the metro had a huge phone |
| 07:52.33 | wink | like galaxy note |
| 07:52.46 | wink | at times even bigger than what we had available in europe |
| 07:53.14 | wink | so under the rough estimate that someone who is 40cm shorter than me also has shorter fingers |
| 07:53.20 | wink | I have no fucking clue how that works |
| 07:54.59 | nebula169 | first time i saw one was in a restraunt, some chick took what looked like a tablet out of her purse and put it to her ear using both hands, looked so silly |
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| 08:53.54 | quiescens | blar |
| 08:57.10 | haste | gh |
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| 09:13.59 | michael_p | hi |
| 09:29.44 | EthanCentaurai | hi |
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| 10:10.17 | Workfoz | phewww |
| 10:10.20 | Workfoz | so much to dooo |
| 10:10.53 | quiescens | go to sleep |
| 10:24.38 | EthanCentaurai | sleeps on quiescens. |
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| 10:41.20 | quiescens | ): |
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| 10:56.47 | nevcairiel | why is bnet down again |
| 10:56.57 | nevcairiel | i wanna login and do s ome addon work! |
| 10:57.40 | EthanCentaurai | because reasons |
| 10:57.51 | nevcairiel | maybe beta works |
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| 11:51.54 | nevcairiel | there, its done, i liberated gathermate2 from libmapdata, screw this lib that doesn't get official updates :P |
| 11:55.41 | Repo | gathermate2: 03Nevcairiel 07nolib * 1.27-3-g8749505 (185 files in 11 directories): [new, +1 commit] Liberate GatherMate2 from LibMapData-1.0 |
| 11:55.41 | Repo | gathermate2: 03Nevcairiel 07WoD * 1.27-2-g019a6e0 (185 files in 11 directories): [new, +2 commits] |
| 11:55.41 | Repo | 019a6e0: Update TOC |
| 11:55.42 | Repo | 5965781: Update usage of GetMapContinents/GetMapZones |
| 12:06.44 | Semlar | liberates nevcairiel's libs |
| 12:07.12 | nevcairiel | although i wonder if anyone will notice that it can't track stuff in dungeons anymore |
| 12:07.18 | nevcairiel | on the other hand, i dont know if that ever worked |
| 12:08.00 | Semlar | why no dungeon support |
| 12:08.15 | nevcairiel | because they dont enumerate over GetMapZones |
| 12:08.35 | EthanCentaurai | nevcairiel: now do HandyNotes :D |
| 12:08.43 | nevcairiel | handynotes doesnt use libmapdata |
| 12:09.33 | Semlar | if you need to iterate over all maps for some reason it can be done |
| 12:10.07 | nevcairiel | i just use it to setup my data mapping, since i need to cache all the data because it also has to work when the map is showing some other zone |
| 12:10.13 | wink | map.map() |
| 12:10.20 | nevcairiel | i suppose i could try to determine that on the fly whenever its needed |
| 12:10.25 | EthanCentaurai | Map map = new Map() |
| 12:11.37 | nevcairiel | not that anyone goes herb gathering in dungeons |
| 12:11.45 | wink | it used to be a thing |
| 12:11.52 | wink | in the underbog |
| 12:11.53 | wink | :) |
| 12:12.08 | EthanCentaurai | i sometimes gather them when doing a random but the pins were never accurate anyway |
| 12:13.34 | nevcairiel | the saving of the pins doesnt even need any extra data, its just for the minimap stuff |
| 12:14.28 | Semlar | you don't need zone dimensions for minimap stuff unless you're storing it in the database as zone coordinates instead of instance coords |
| 12:14.29 | nevcairiel | goes to the underbog |
| 12:14.37 | nevcairiel | its stored as zone coordinates |
| 12:14.39 | nevcairiel | for legacy reasons |
| 12:15.19 | Semlar | see i would do it the opposite way and just convert the instance coordinates down to put pins on the world map if it's open |
| 12:15.38 | nevcairiel | too lazy to convert old databases and whatnot now |
| 12:17.03 | znf | nevcairiel, when you mean dungeons you mean JUST dungeons |
| 12:17.06 | znf | not caves, right? |
| 12:17.29 | nevcairiel | caves never really work decently, they are weird |
| 12:17.39 | znf | I only know of one cave of interest |
| 12:17.47 | znf | the ghost mushroom cave in Un'goro |
| 12:20.33 | nevcairiel | yeah i guess i should fix dungeons, its kinda annoying now :p |
| 12:21.15 | Semlar | maps nevcairiel |
| 12:21.25 | wink | flatmaps Semlar |
| 12:22.26 | Semlar | 2 functions you may be interested in: GetAreaMaps() for GetAreaMapInfo and GetDungeonMaps() for GetDungeonMapInfo |
| 12:22.39 | Semlar | if you really want to cache everything |
| 12:23.22 | Semlar | except microdungeons |
| 12:23.35 | Semlar | which you will have to be inside of to get information about |
| 12:23.45 | nevcairiel | GetDungeonMaps is a ll dungeons? |
| 12:23.50 | nevcairiel | its like 400 |
| 12:23.53 | nevcairiel | seems like a lot :P |
| 12:23.56 | Semlar | dungeon maps are maps with floors |
| 12:24.10 | Semlar | so every map floor should be in it |
| 12:25.19 | nevcairiel | 407 maps in GetDungeonMaps |
| 12:25.20 | nevcairiel | oh well |
| 12:25.38 | nevcairiel | whats in GetAreaMaps then, everything that has no floors? :p |
| 12:25.48 | Semlar | it should be mostly zones |
| 12:26.00 | nevcairiel | and the combination of both is everything? |
| 12:26.02 | Semlar | but possibly also "dungeon" maps that only have a single floor |
| 12:26.26 | Semlar | i'm fairly sure those two functions should cover every map you can set aside from microdungeons |
| 12:27.06 | Semlar | and you shouldn't need to actually set the map to them to get their dimensions this way |
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| 12:27.26 | Semlar | both GetAreaMapInfo and GetDungeonMapInfo return the coordinates |
| 12:28.29 | nevcairiel | are they documented anywhere? dont want to go about guessing their return values |
| 12:28.36 | Semlar | i could just tell you |
| 12:28.38 | Semlar | hang on |
| 12:28.50 | nevcairiel | oh i found it |
| 12:28.59 | nevcairiel | Usage: GetAreaMapInfo(areaMapID) returns: mapID, areaID, displayMapID, locLeft, locRight, locTop, locBottom, minLevel, maxLevel, flags |
| 12:29.00 | Semlar | well fine then |
| 12:30.31 | Semlar | what that function is calling the "mapID" is the instance id |
| 12:30.35 | Semlar | if that helps |
| 12:30.48 | nevcairiel | none of its return values maps to the actual map id, does it? |
| 12:30.57 | nevcairiel | ie one that works with SetMapByID |
| 12:31.04 | Semlar | that's what areaMapID is |
| 12:31.08 | Semlar | the thing you're giving it |
| 12:31.10 | nevcairiel | oh |
| 12:31.15 | nevcairiel | i thought that was something else |
| 12:31.17 | nevcairiel | well then! |
| 12:31.30 | Semlar | and you don't need to do SetMapByID |
| 12:31.47 | Semlar | unless you need something else |
| 12:31.55 | nevcairiel | i know, it was just an example to make sure we're talking about the same map id |
| 12:32.13 | nevcairiel | i need the coordinates and the localized name, both are available |
| 12:32.15 | Semlar | GetDungeonMapInfo(dungeonMapID) returns: floorIndex, minX, maxX, minY, maxY, mapID, parentWorldMapID, flags |
| 12:32.48 | Semlar | dungeon map names are stored in globals for some reason |
| 12:33.35 | EthanCentaurai | reasons |
| 12:33.47 | nevcairiel | hm, i need the map file |
| 12:33.50 | nevcairiel | guess thats not available |
| 12:33.53 | Semlar | it's too bad i'm so lazy or i would write something that explains the difference between all of the map ids |
| 12:34.14 | Semlar | you need GetMapInfo for that |
| 12:34.24 | nevcairiel | yeah, which works on the current map |
| 12:34.28 | nevcairiel | i wonder if i actually need it |
| 12:34.30 | nevcairiel | checks calling c ode |
| 12:35.30 | Semlar | this is why i prefer working with coordinates on the instance level |
| 12:36.19 | Semlar | the main downside is if you want to limit which coordinates you're looking at to a particular zone you'll have to store that separately |
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| 12:39.47 | nevcairiel | GetDungeonMapInfo confuses me, how do i correlate all floors of a dungeon to its dungeon |
| 12:42.58 | Semlar | should give you the parent |
| 12:43.15 | nevcairiel | but what is this parent number |
| 12:43.42 | Semlar | actually |
| 12:44.18 | Semlar | let me take a look at it |
| 12:47.08 | Semlar | alright |
| 12:47.25 | Semlar | mapID is the instanceID again, parentWorldMapID is the area id of the base zone map |
| 12:48.47 | nevcairiel | so i have to save the area id in the step before to correlate it |
| 12:49.12 | Semlar | it should be GetAreaMaps |
| 12:50.11 | Semlar | it's a little tricky because it doesn't necessarily mean the base map has a floor dropdown |
| 12:50.27 | Semlar | like, durotar will be the parent of multiple maps |
| 12:50.32 | Semlar | even though you can't switch between floors |
| 12:50.54 | Semlar | because valley of trials and echo isles belong to it |
| 12:51.43 | Semlar | actually they added map hierarchy information in WoD but i'm not sure if it's relevant here |
| 12:51.58 | Semlar | you can get all the children zones |
| 12:52.32 | Semlar | using.. GetMapSubzones i believe |
| 12:52.52 | Semlar | can't remember if you can give that an area id or if it's the current map |
| 12:53.48 | Semlar | ah yes it takes an area id |
| 12:55.38 | Semlar | they added "floor" as the second argument to the documentation for SetMapByID but it clearly doesn't work |
| 12:57.02 | nevcairiel | this stuff is confusing, zones have an entry in GetAreaMaps but GetAreaMapInfo returns all zeros for their size, and its only filled in by the floor info later <.< |
| 13:00.23 | Semlar | ^_^ |
| 13:00.58 | nevcairiel | hope it works now |
| 13:01.13 | Semlar | >_> |
| 13:02.22 | Semlar | it might be easier to just get the parent of the current zone and use the hierarchy functions to get information about the surrounding maps |
| 13:04.11 | EthanCentaurai | seriously thinking of converting my git repos back to svn :|a |
| 13:04.14 | Semlar | GetMapHierarchy(areaID) returns a table of each map you'd get if you were to zoom out |
| 13:05.22 | Semlar | if you're in a dungeon map, GetCurrentMapAreaID() will return the area id of the base map regardless of the floor |
| 13:05.44 | Semlar | that's why the dungeon maps are separate, they don't have area IDs |
| 13:05.47 | nevcairiel | my underbog map still doesn't work, GetDungeonMapInfo isn't being helpful |
| 13:06.04 | Semlar | what is underbog's area id |
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| 13:06.29 | nevcairiel | you mean the normal map id? 726 |
| 13:06.45 | Semlar | yeah i call that the area ID |
| 13:06.56 | Semlar | just to keep my sanity |
| 13:07.11 | nevcairiel | it doesnt have actual floors, but GetAreaMapInfo r eturns zeros |
| 13:07.25 | nevcairiel | but GetDungeonMapInfo doesnt seem to spit out anything ever |
| 13:08.33 | Semlar | well it definitely has a floor number |
| 13:08.36 | Semlar | it should be in there |
| 13:08.53 | Semlar | let me check |
| 13:09.00 | nevcairiel | maybe it is, and i just dont know how to identify it |
| 13:09.18 | nevcairiel | if parentWorldMapID is the area id, then it didnt list it |
| 13:11.30 | Semlar | you're right |
| 13:12.14 | nevcairiel | if i just do a dumb GetCurrentMapDungeonLevel() on the current map, i get data tho |
| 13:12.27 | Semlar | yeah, but you have to have the map set for that |
| 13:12.36 | Semlar | but it looks like this isn't returning info |
| 13:12.42 | Semlar | so you may not have a choice |
| 13:14.22 | Semlar | actually |
| 13:14.33 | Semlar | i think the dungeon map id is 223 |
| 13:15.12 | nevcairiel | setmapbyid 223 doesnt work tho |
| 13:15.18 | Semlar | no |
| 13:15.25 | Semlar | for GetDungeonMapInfo |
| 13:15.28 | nevcairiel | oh |
| 13:15.34 | Semlar | it appears to belong to zangarmarsh |
| 13:15.43 | nevcairiel | thats kinda broken |
| 13:16.19 | Semlar | no, it makes sense, that id must be for the world map zone it belongs to |
| 13:16.40 | nevcairiel | but it works for other zones |
| 13:16.45 | Semlar | i used the instanceID to identify it |
| 13:16.46 | nevcairiel | eh, dungeons |
| 13:17.48 | Semlar | it's probably because its base map doesn't have an area id |
| 13:17.52 | Semlar | er |
| 13:17.57 | Semlar | terrain map |
| 13:18.26 | Semlar | what's one of the dungeons it works for |
| 13:18.53 | Semlar | actually that doesn't matter |
| 13:19.02 | Semlar | just use the instanceID to identify all of the maps that belong to that instanceID |
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| 13:20.03 | EthanCentaurai | it's almost like we need a library for all this map data :O |
| 13:20.08 | Semlar | shh |
| 13:20.14 | Semlar | we have astrolabe |
| 13:20.29 | nevcairiel | that still uses data tables and seems out of date |
| 13:20.34 | Semlar | no it doesn't |
| 13:20.44 | Semlar | he rewrote it to use the api functions in like mop beta |
| 13:20.51 | nevcairiel | i havent seen an updated version anywhere |
| 13:21.18 | Semlar | http://svn.esamynn.org/astrolabe/trunk/ |
| 13:21.47 | Semlar | pretty sure it's on wowinterface.. |
| 13:21.52 | nevcairiel | i wonder if that does dungeon positions right then |
| 13:22.12 | nevcairiel | not updated for WoD in any case |
| 13:22.26 | nevcairiel | GetMapContinents still used the old way |
| 13:22.35 | Semlar | the only thing that doesn't work for WoD is because they changed the returns for GetMapZones |
| 13:22.55 | Semlar | so SetMapZoom is broken |
| 13:23.04 | Semlar | you can fix that with 2 lines |
| 13:23.04 | nevcairiel | yeah he uses setting the map, that seems ok |
| 13:23.53 | Semlar | iterate backwards over newInstance.ContinentList and remove every other entry |
| 13:24.14 | Semlar | and do the same thing after local zones = { GetMapZones(C) } |
| 13:25.26 | Semlar | for i = #zones, 1, -2 do tremove(zones, i) end or something like that |
| 13:25.45 | Semlar | maybe #zones - 1 |
| 13:26.04 | Semlar | i think you're after the odd numbers |
| 13:34.23 | nevcairiel | hm, now the data seems ok, but the icon on the minimap doesnt go where it should |
| 13:34.25 | nevcairiel | man i hate this |
| 13:35.07 | Semlar | well, are you taking into account that UnitPosition is returning y, x |
| 13:35.19 | nevcairiel | its using the map position |
| 13:39.52 | nevcairiel | almost like the minimap doesn't actually obey the size info given from GetCurrentMapDungeonLevel |
| 13:40.27 | EthanCentaurai | i don't think it worked properly in the first place :V |
| 13:45.40 | nevcairiel | wonder if its just something in the underbog thats screwed up |
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| 13:50.04 | Semlar | maybe your coordinates are wrong |
| 13:51.03 | Semlar | in your database |
| 13:55.21 | nevcairiel | then it would just in a wrong spot, and not move around when i move |
| 13:55.58 | Semlar | you aren't using UnitPosition? |
| 13:56.52 | nevcairiel | we went over this earlier, its saved in 0-100 coordinates |
| 13:57.07 | Semlar | yeah but you said you were using UnitPosition to place the icons on the minimap |
| 13:57.31 | Semlar | and using the map data to convert the coordinates |
| 14:00.31 | Semlar | i assume you aren't converting UnitPosition to map coordinates |
| 14:02.49 | Semlar | how far off are your icons, you might just have the minimap size wrong |
| 14:03.10 | nevcairiel | not that far, i think |
| 14:03.15 | Semlar | that would make them move with you |
| 14:03.40 | nevcairiel | but it works properly outside of the dungeon, so it must be specific to the size of the dungeon |
| 14:04.11 | Semlar | well indoor minimap has a different size than outdoor minimap |
| 14:05.06 | Semlar | but assuming you're taking that into account, maybe you have the dimensions of the instance flipped, although that would be a little weird |
| 14:05.42 | Semlar | i mean confusing the width with the height for the dungeon map or something |
| 14:05.44 | nevcairiel | it should try to handle indoor vs outdoor minimap |
| 14:05.59 | Semlar | there is a minimap size function in astrolabe |
| 14:06.10 | Semlar | i think you can probably call it directly |
| 14:06.58 | nevcairiel | we use the same data table for the minimap size |
| 14:07.05 | Semlar | or at least check Astrolabe.minimapOutside |
| 14:07.35 | Semlar | because checking if you're indoors requires flipping the zoom which is annoying |
| 14:08.51 | quiescens | moo? |
| 14:09.00 | Semlar | o.o |
| 14:09.38 | quiescens | gives semlar a cookie |
| 14:09.41 | Semlar | dies |
| 14:09.49 | quiescens | ): |
| 14:11.22 | Semlar | from cookie poisoning |
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| 14:15.06 | Semlar | :O |
| 14:17.20 | nevcairiel | the code to detect if we're indoors is exactly the same as astrolabes |
| 14:20.14 | nevcairiel | and it detects fine, too |
| 14:21.46 | Semlar | i don't know, i'm placing icons on the minimap relative to UnitPosition and it's pretty straightforward |
| 14:22.10 | Semlar | using a database that's zone coordinates |
| 14:22.28 | Semlar | i just iterated through and converted all of the zone coordinates to instance coordinates |
| 14:25.48 | Semlar | i split it up into a grid so it only has to check nearby points to draw but other than that step it's the same |
| 14:25.55 | nevcairiel | ah found it, it didnt update the state properly |
| 14:25.57 | nevcairiel | damn code |
| 14:27.16 | Semlar | when this is released i'll just be storing all of the coordinates as instance coordinates though |
| 14:27.35 | Semlar | zone coordinates aren't very accurate |
| 14:27.39 | Repo | gathermate2: 03Nevcairiel 07nolib * 1.27-5-g16428d8 /: [forced -2 +3] Support for dungeon maps |
| 14:27.39 | Repo | gathermate2: 03Nevcairiel 07WoD * 1.27-3-gcc14959 Display.lua: [+1 commit] Properly update the minimap zoom state when forcing a map update |
| 14:28.03 | nevcairiel | works in underbog properly now \o/ |
| 14:28.07 | Semlar | woohoo! |
| 14:30.05 | nevcairiel | next up would be actually using UnitPosition to be independent of the map, but that means more data and calculations |
| 14:30.16 | nevcairiel | too lazy today |
| 14:30.20 | Semlar | i was told there would be no maps |
| 14:30.55 | Semlar | or math |
| 14:34.15 | nevcairiel | looking at the code, that should be pretty easy, i dont even need to convert anything, just do some math with the offsets |
| 14:34.21 | nevcairiel | well later, gotta getsome snacks now |
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| 14:41.54 | Semlar | gives nevcairiel a cookie |
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| 14:48.21 | pompy | http://www.theverge.com/2014/9/29/6868005/join-us-september-30th-for-microsofts-windows-9-event |
| 14:48.27 | pompy | time zones are at the bottom |
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| 14:51.31 | EthanCentaurai | two hours |
| 14:55.00 | pompy | indeed |
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| 15:08.28 | EthanCentaurai | prepares popcorn. |
| 15:16.59 | quiescens | yay popcorn |
| 15:17.00 | quiescens | \o/ |
| 15:17.03 | nevcairiel | meh i fail at using unitposition |
| 15:17.30 | EthanCentaurai | gives quiescens some popcorn. |
| 15:19.59 | quiescens | \o/ |
| 15:20.19 | nevcairiel | wait, UnitPosition is returning y, x o.o |
| 15:20.25 | nebula169 | yes |
| 15:20.31 | nevcairiel | ...why |
| 15:20.37 | nebula169 | x up! |
| 15:20.38 | nevcairiel | x,y is what i assumed! |
| 15:20.38 | EthanCentaurai | ...ecks |
| 15:20.43 | nebula169 | lol, no idea |
| 15:21.08 | EthanCentaurai | semlar did mention it earlier :|a |
| 15:21.41 | nebula169 | funny i asked him about map stuff to remove libmapdata |
| 15:22.10 | nebula169 | earlier as well* |
| 15:25.07 | Semlar | map this, map that |
| 15:25.15 | EthanCentaurai | map all the things |
| 15:40.43 | Repo | big-wigs: 03nebula169 * r12019 Plugins/Proximity.lua: Proximity: remove hard coded map sizes |
| 15:41.29 | nevcairiel | hm, its still freaking out when i change my map to another zone because it also uses the map to determine which nodes to show, i need a surefire way to figure out in which zone I am without the map! |
| 15:41.36 | nevcairiel | i dont trust getrealzonetext :( |
| 15:41.47 | Semlar | believe in the getrealzonetext |
| 15:42.06 | Semlar | i don't know why you don't just record the information when you physically change zones |
| 15:42.44 | silentium | would the real zone text please stand up |
| 15:42.57 | nevcairiel | i could, but i would love if it also worked when i switch zones while the map is shown |
| 15:43.02 | Semlar | SetMapToCurrentZone(), record the datas, set it back to what it previously was if shown |
| 15:43.11 | Workfoz | hay guise |
| 15:43.15 | Workfoz | did I miss good things? |
| 15:43.21 | Fisker | I missed you |
| 15:44.10 | nevcairiel | Semlar: you can see it flash when that happens, would love not to have to do that! |
| 15:44.19 | Semlar | unregister the event |
| 15:44.33 | nevcairiel | thats evil |
| 15:44.40 | Semlar | the world map has a built in function for it |
| 15:44.50 | Semlar | it's designed to let you change the map without changing the view |
| 15:45.31 | nevcairiel | you mean WorldMapFrame.blockWorldMapUpdate ? |
| 15:45.38 | Semlar | something like that |
| 15:45.40 | Workfoz | Fisker: \o/ <3 |
| 15:45.49 | Workfoz | zomg these firmwares are ancient |
| 15:45.49 | nevcairiel | i wonder if it taints the hell out of the map |
| 15:46.27 | Semlar | unregistering the event would be safr |
| 15:46.52 | Semlar | wouldn't stop other addons from responding to it |
| 15:47.03 | Semlar | but really it shouldn't be flashing anyway |
| 15:47.13 | nevcairiel | well it does |
| 15:47.18 | Semlar | something is probably slowing it down |
| 15:47.46 | Semlar | probably gathermate |
| 15:48.18 | Semlar | if it has to do a bunch of calculations in response to the world map update |
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| 15:49.58 | Semlar | what if you try this http://pastebin.com/f0Q9qbMu |
| 15:50.08 | Semlar | with the map set to something other than the current zone |
| 15:50.29 | nevcairiel | that obviously works, but you can see the map flash briefly |
| 15:50.51 | Workfoz | BIOS from 1.0.4 to 2.2.3, Lifecycle Controller from 1.0.0 to 1.4.2, 1GbE 7.0 -> 7.8, 10GbE 13.1 -> 14.5, iDRAC 1.00.00 to 1.57.57, PSU 07.12.52 to 09.13.59 oO |
| 15:51.08 | Workfoz | these servers are barely over 2 years old |
| 15:52.06 | Semlar | alright how about we just convince blizzard to provide the current zone id without changing the map |
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| 15:52.53 | nevcairiel | we have tried such things for years now |
| 15:53.11 | Semlar | well, they implemented UnitPosition after i asked the guy in irc |
| 15:53.20 | Semlar | maybe i should have asked for more |
| 15:53.40 | Workfoz | sb |
| 15:53.51 | Stanzilla | http://withinrafael.com/new-experimental-console-features-in-windows-threshold/ |
| 15:54.31 | Stanzilla | cool beans |
| 15:57.01 | Fisker | Just powershell already |
| 15:57.29 | Stanzilla | "new experimental features that apply to all console windows -- including the one that hosts PowerShell." |
| 15:57.36 | Fisker | Yes |
| 16:00.49 | Repo | gathermate2: 03Nevcairiel 07nolib * 1.27-6-gb1809f1 (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Use UnitPosition to allow minimap icons to update even when the map is switched |
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| 16:06.02 | Semlar | nevcairiel: http://pastebin.com/8F98pDJ6 something like this is probably your best option if the world map is visible |
| 16:06.36 | nevcairiel | i did it without the unreg for now, we'll see if it annoys me |
| 16:07.53 | nevcairiel | how do levels really behave in regards to instance coordinates? |
| 16:08.11 | nevcairiel | i mean, t hey are kinda layerd on top of each other |
| 16:08.12 | Semlar | levels are a map thing |
| 16:08.33 | Semlar | instance coordinates won't factor them in |
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| 16:09.00 | Semlar | since they won't give us the Z |
| 16:09.45 | nevcairiel | also, whats with dungeon levels having their coordinates somehow flipped |
| 16:09.47 | Semlar | i generally split my tables into [instanceID][floorNum] or combine them |
| 16:10.30 | Semlar | the order that the api functions return the map dimensions is more or less random |
| 16:10.41 | nebula169 | >.> |
| 16:10.44 | Semlar | sometimes you get left, right, top, bottom |
| 16:10.49 | Semlar | sometimes you get left, top, right, bottom |
| 16:11.08 | Semlar | juuuuust depends on the function |
| 16:11.34 | Semlar | like GetCurrentMapZone and GetAreaMapInfo return the same coordinates |
| 16:11.37 | Semlar | but not in the same order |
| 16:11.38 | nevcairiel | GetCurrentMapDungeonLevel() seems to either flip left/right top/bottom, or i dunno, their signs are inverted to the ones on the outside |
| 16:12.00 | Semlar | outside? |
| 16:12.07 | nevcairiel | you know, GetCurrentMapZone() |
| 16:12.22 | Semlar | well they're probably separate instances |
| 16:12.36 | nevcairiel | but if i use the same logic, i get all negative numbers |
| 16:13.03 | Semlar | the numbers that the functions return are always accurate, so don't try and flip the signs or anything |
| 16:13.23 | Semlar | the order that they return the values in isn't always the same though |
| 16:13.40 | nevcairiel | right, bottom, left, top = GetCurrentMapDungeonLevel |
| 16:13.45 | nevcairiel | this makes it behave like the other |
| 16:13.49 | nevcairiel | crazy blizzard api |
| 16:14.38 | Semlar | that function returns left, top, right, bottom |
| 16:14.43 | Semlar | don't get confused |
| 16:14.59 | nevcairiel | no, it doesn |
| 16:15.04 | Semlar | yeah, it does |
| 16:15.13 | Semlar | you just have your planes inverted or something |
| 16:15.32 | nevcairiel | i use the exact same code for GetCurrentMapZone and GetCurrentMapDungeonLevel |
| 16:15.40 | nevcairiel | and one of them doesnt return the same order as the other |
| 16:15.53 | nevcairiel | or it has a different point of reference |
| 16:16.12 | Semlar | GetCurrentMapZone and GetCurrentMapDungeonLevel return the values in the same order |
| 16:16.23 | nebula169 | dungeonlevel starts at right, zone starts at left |
| 16:17.37 | nevcairiel | either it returns them differently, or the values are differently defined |
| 16:17.56 | nevcairiel | flipping them around makes it w ork the same way as the other function in any case |
| 16:18.21 | nevcairiel | i checked astrolabe for confirmation, and it also flips them |
| 16:18.23 | Semlar | okay DungeonLevel returns right, bottom, left, top |
| 16:18.28 | Semlar | astrolabe is wrong |
| 16:18.45 | Semlar | i was looking at astrolabe when i was saying they returned the same values |
| 16:18.56 | nevcairiel | it does the flpping a bit later |
| 16:19.03 | Semlar | well that's insane |
| 16:19.04 | nevcairiel | local TLx, TLy, BRx, BRy = -harvData.BRx, -harvData.BRy, -harvData.TLx, -harvData.TLy |
| 16:19.08 | nevcairiel | there ^ |
| 16:19.20 | Semlar | he should be labeling them correctly from the start |
| 16:20.05 | Repo | gathermate2: 03Nevcairiel 07nolib * 1.27-7-gf381573 GatherMate2.lua: [+1 commit] Fix order of return values from GetCurrentMapDungeonLevel |
| 16:20.41 | nevcairiel | also, this low level damage scaling is insane |
| 16:20.45 | Semlar | i'll yell at esamynn later |
| 16:20.56 | nevcairiel | my moonfire instant damage does like 150k damage on level 63 mobs |
| 16:21.11 | nevcairiel | they have barely 20k hp! |
| 16:21.24 | Semlar | sounds like overkill |
| 16:21.37 | EthanCentaurai | only slightly |
| 16:21.46 | nevcairiel | i was slightly bored while debugging so i killed a few things in the underbog |
| 16:22.41 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:22.54 | Semlar | but it does on zones with more than one floor |
| 16:23.30 | nevcairiel | its very minimal flicker on most zones, like i can see it drawing the discovered map tiles on top of the background image |
| 16:23.44 | nevcairiel | without the event unreg ofc |
| 16:24.40 | nevcairiel | i should test this gathermate branch somehow more extensively, wonder how much i broke |
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| 16:24.47 | Semlar | all the things |
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| 16:38.52 | nevcairiel | Well, the only thing that even can remotely break is the display on the minimap, so even if it falls apart very badly, its not the end of the world |
| 16:39.32 | nevcairiel | if i look out the window though, its raining like its the end of the world out there |
| 16:40.27 | EthanCentaurai | save regularly :/ |
| 16:40.33 | EthanCentaurai | just in case |
| 16:41.05 | nevcairiel | we're not in the US, our power lines don't just fall apart when it rains for a bit |
| 16:44.55 | Semlar | who told you power lines in the US fall apart when it rains |
| 16:45.28 | nevcairiel | everyone knows your power infrastructure is kinda flimsy |
| 16:45.48 | Semlar | unless an actual tree drops a limb on a powerline or something it's not coming down |
| 16:46.02 | Semlar | we bury new cables anyway |
| 16:46.41 | nevcairiel | that couldn't happen here either really, short of the high power long distance cables (where physics get in the way of burying), we have everything under ground for years now |
| 16:47.53 | Semlar | aerial cables were more popular because they have to cover much larger distances here |
| 16:48.03 | Semlar | and they're easier to repair |
| 16:48.23 | Semlar | but for residential cables and denser areas they'd all be buried |
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| 16:49.25 | EthanCentaurai | Wrong button. :B |
| 16:49.28 | Semlar | granted if they're buried they're more likely to get cut |
| 16:50.08 | EthanCentaurai | Windows Event starting in 10 minutes if anyone's interested. http://live.theverge.com/microsoft-windows-9-event-live-blog/ |
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| 16:50.22 | nevcairiel | no video streams? |
| 16:50.26 | nevcairiel | like, official ones? |
| 16:50.31 | EthanCentaurai | not that I know of |
| 16:50.35 | EthanCentaurai | ask pompy |
| 16:50.43 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla would know, he watches such things |
| 16:51.05 | Stanzilla | nope, no stream |
| 16:51.07 | Stanzilla | sadly |
| 16:53.41 | quiescens | why would you watch that stuff |
| 16:53.47 | quiescens | o.o |
| 16:54.07 | Stanzilla | it's the future of a software most of us use daily |
| 16:54.09 | Stanzilla | so why not |
| 16:54.31 | nebula169 | stan just wants to download win9 immediately |
| 16:54.44 | Stanzilla | luckily I can do that because the preview gets released today, too |
| 16:55.53 | Stanzilla | which will also be my main os |
| 16:55.59 | nebula169 | well of course |
| 16:56.41 | Stanzilla | if you want to help shape the future of it, using it is quite beneficial |
| 16:58.20 | EthanCentaurai | like alpha WoW addons :D |
| 16:58.32 | EthanCentaurai | but for Windows |
| 16:59.00 | Fisker | Stanzilla highlight me when preview is up |
| 16:59.56 | Stanzilla | Fisker: will do |
| 17:00.04 | Fisker | It's up? |
| 17:00.08 | Stanzilla | no |
| 17:00.08 | Fisker | :3 |
| 17:01.30 | Stanzilla | auto refresh on http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/evaluate-windows-technical-preview-for-enterprise :D |
| 17:02.32 | nevcairiel | in before they have a different site for it |
| 17:03.26 | EthanCentaurai | distributes popcorn. |
| 17:04.27 | quiescens | yay, more popcorn |
| 17:06.15 | Fisker | Windows one? |
| 17:06.18 | nebula169 | lol |
| 17:06.21 | Fisker | are they even trying? |
| 17:06.23 | nebula169 | he's joking |
| 17:06.24 | nevcairiel | continue reading you fool |
| 17:06.55 | nevcairiel | Windows 10, apparently |
| 17:07.05 | Fisker | NEIN NEIN NEIN |
| 17:07.18 | pompy | http://live.theverge.com/microsoft-windows-9-event-live-blog/ |
| 17:07.38 | Fisker | Don't you mean windows 10? |
| 17:07.40 | Fisker | LOL |
| 17:08.00 | quiescens | nine? |
| 17:08.05 | Fisker | http://live.theverge.com/microsoft-windows-10-event-live-blog/ |
| 17:08.18 | EthanCentaurai | damnit Fisker |
| 17:08.35 | Fisker | So wait windows 10 will be on xbox? |
| 17:09.07 | nevcairiel | of course |
| 17:09.09 | nebula169 | ALL THE DEVICES |
| 17:09.20 | nevcairiel | xbox has to run some kind of windows |
| 17:09.28 | EthanCentaurai | I am excite. |
| 17:13.42 | quiescens | o.o |
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| 17:24.06 | nevcairiel | they posted the end of season notice, but without a specific date |
| 17:24.12 | nevcairiel | still being shy about it! |
| 17:24.24 | ShadniX | Will the LibBabble-* libs update automatically when translation strings change or do I have to poke anyone for an update? |
| 17:24.45 | nevcairiel | not automatically, but usually on a regular basis |
| 17:25.06 | nevcairiel | although near the end of the expansion, usually stuff doesnt change anymore |
| 17:25.30 | quiescens | end of the line |
| 17:25.31 | quiescens | ! |
| 17:25.45 | ShadniX | nevcairiel: i got a ticket on my addon about a typo in ruRU-translation, which I tracked back to LibBabble-Boss-3.0 |
| 17:27.10 | ShadniX | nevcairiel: Was for "Norushen" - I double checked it on various websites and updated it using the translation tool, but saw that the last build was made in novembre last year |
| 17:27.28 | ShadniX | Hence my question |
| 17:27.30 | nevcairiel | yeah i tried updating it some time ago, but there were no changes, so go figure |
| 17:28.10 | nevcairiel | the one russian change was the first change since november 2013, i checked ;) |
| 17:28.38 | nevcairiel | i suppose i can run the update later |
| 17:28.39 | ShadniX | that information was not available to me ;) |
| 17:29.12 | ShadniX | ok, thank you very much in advance |
| 17:29.45 | ShadniX | nevcairiel: btw - when will you typically start to add new strings for the next expansion? |
| 17:30.30 | nevcairiel | usually when someone gives me a list :P |
| 17:30.51 | nebula169 | should really move away from libbabble stuff and use ingame localization :p |
| 17:30.57 | pompy | "You can now paste in directories into command prompt with Ctrl+V. FINALLY." |
| 17:30.59 | pompy | lol |
| 17:31.16 | nevcairiel | i would love if you can fi nally drag-resize the command prompt window |
| 17:32.03 | ShadniX | nevcairiel: ok - let me rephrase the question: Will you consider to add new strings while content is in beta or only when content is live? |
| 17:32.31 | nevcairiel | there is no harm in adding stuff before the release, that way people have time to translate, too |
| 17:32.49 | ShadniX | nebula169: I try to do most stuff with client side translation, but it is not always possible. |
| 17:32.57 | nevcairiel | but as nebula169 said, you can get loads of translated stuff out of the client already |
| 17:33.25 | ShadniX | like, when norushan isn't the name of the boss encounter that actually dies |
| 17:33.30 | ShadniX | *norushen |
| 17:39.31 | ShadniX | Although I should probably check if I can replace more libbabble-usages... haven't reviewed that in a long time. But thanks, will start to make a list then. |
| 17:39.52 | ShadniX | I'll guess throwing the list in a ticket will be fine? |
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| 17:47.19 | EthanCentaurai | What if they chose binary, and Windows 10 is really Windows 2? |
| 17:47.49 | nebula169 | i thought about that, but still silly |
| 17:48.50 | Stanzilla | nobody did the joke in here? |
| 17:48.53 | Stanzilla | windows 7 8 9? |
| 17:48.57 | Stanzilla | 7 ate 9? |
| 17:48.58 | Stanzilla | HEHE |
| 17:49.20 | Semlar | hey! |
| 17:49.33 | Stanzilla | oh you did over there |
| 17:49.34 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 17:51.51 | quiescens | dies. |
| 17:52.21 | Stanzilla | http://www.infoworld.com/article/2613504/microsoft-windows/microsoft-skips--too-good--windows-9--jumps-to-windows-10.html |
| 17:52.26 | Stanzilla | look at the date |
| 17:53.40 | nebula169 | lol |
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| 17:55.35 | Stanzilla | Fisker: download tomorrow btw |
| 17:55.38 | Stanzilla | can calm your tits now |
| 17:55.44 | Fisker | Is it out? |
| 17:55.49 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 17:57.09 | Fisker | Oh |
| 17:57.11 | Fisker | I can't see it |
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| 17:59.52 | Stanzilla | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84NI5fjTfpQ |
| 18:00.30 | Fisker | I'm glad it's the best though |
| 18:01.21 | nebula169 | it's never gonna let you down |
| 18:03.54 | Stanzilla | really looking forward to it |
| 18:04.47 | EthanCentaurai | "Q: Now it's Windows 10, will we see future versions named after big cats?" I lol'd. |
| 18:07.30 | znf | is there a tl;dr somewhere/ |
| 18:07.41 | Fisker | Yeah it's windows 10 not 9 |
| 18:08.10 | nebula169 | znf: http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2014/09/30/announcing-windows-10/ but it broke |
| 18:08.19 | znf | :-( |
| 18:10.29 | znf | that video says the biggest feature was the app store! |
| 18:10.33 | znf | never opened the appstore |
| 18:11.27 | Stanzilla | with the new unified store across all devices I'm pretty sure I will use it more |
| 18:11.35 | Stanzilla | also finally as a window and not fullscreen |
| 18:12.37 | Stanzilla | the Bing => MSN rename happened today, too btw |
| 18:12.42 | Stanzilla | for all teh apps |
| 18:12.48 | nebula169 | hope they try and clean up the store, it's pretty worthless |
| 18:12.54 | Stanzilla | yes indeed |
| 18:13.17 | Stanzilla | but if they combine all the teams working their 3? stores now..should be better |
| 18:13.21 | znf | oh yeah, searches from the start menu on the web |
| 18:13.24 | znf | howaboutno? |
| 18:15.00 | znf | not impressed |
| 18:15.05 | znf | I was more impressed by Windows 8 |
| 18:15.33 | haste | we now have minimize, maximize and CLOSE BUTTONS! |
| 18:15.35 | haste | wooo |
| 18:15.37 | haste | :D |
| 18:15.53 | Stanzilla | on apps |
| 18:15.58 | Stanzilla | that is the important part |
| 18:16.05 | Stanzilla | znf: did you read http://withinrafael.com/new-experimental-console-features-in-windows-threshold/ |
| 18:16.58 | znf | cool, welcome to 2001? |
| 18:17.37 | Stanzilla | Yeah not sure why I even bother showing you things, you're just too cool :p |
| 18:17.46 | znf | well, I discovered Cmder! |
| 18:17.55 | znf | all the shortcomings have been fixed :P |
| 18:19.41 | znf | also, I don't know about you, but I don't use any "apps", and I will most likely never use them |
| 18:20.12 | Gnarfoz | woah those settings. |
| 18:20.14 | Gnarfoz | neat |
| 18:20.29 | Stanzilla | I already said that I do and probably will use them more now that they are standard windows |
| 18:20.37 | Stanzilla | hated the fullscreen experience |
| 18:21.56 | znf | like what? :-| |
| 18:22.08 | Gnarfoz | Your Mom for Windows |
| 18:22.30 | Stanzilla | there is a really good twitter app for example |
| 18:22.35 | Gnarfoz | I like that the Windows blog just says "The service is unavailable." |
| 18:22.42 | Stanzilla | and I use the default news and weather and mail thingies |
| 18:23.31 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: so quassel-core itself has no configuration worth bothering with? I'd at least want to make sure it doesn't listen on all IPs and such stuff... but who knows where the Debian maintainer put those; can't find a single config file :D |
| 18:23.50 | nevcairiel | there is a command line option for the listen ip |
| 18:23.57 | znf | so /etc/defaults :D |
| 18:23.59 | Fisker | All configs are in the db I believe |
| 18:24.07 | nevcairiel | so probably in some debian specific fi le somewhere |
| 18:24.30 | Gnarfoz | znf: that's what I thought, because after using Debian for years... well, that's where it belongs |
| 18:24.55 | znf | dpkg -L quassel-core |
| 18:24.58 | znf | ^^ |
| 18:25.01 | Gnarfoz | oy, either I was too sleepy when I checked or dumb, there's actually a file there |
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| 18:25.20 | Gnarfoz | only controls loglevel and port, though, let's look at the init script |
| 18:25.38 | Gnarfoz | DAEMON_OPTS="" |
| 18:25.40 | Gnarfoz | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:26.05 | Gnarfoz | k, taht should cover everything |
| 18:26.25 | Gnarfoz | is there a x64 build |
| 18:26.35 | Stanzilla | LOL |
| 18:26.37 | Gnarfoz | or qt55 |
| 18:26.40 | Gnarfoz | or whatever the hip shit is |
| 18:26.53 | nevcairiel | i build my own, i wouldnt know what is distributed |
| 18:27.14 | Gnarfoz | I trust your hardware, might as well trust your software |
| 18:27.23 | Gnarfoz | well, I actually already use your software, nevermind |
| 18:27.27 | Gnarfoz | can you give me yours |
| 18:27.48 | nevcairiel | its build without a few features tho, no sound notifications and no webkit for on-hover link previews |
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| 18:28.18 | nevcairiel | i r lazy so i dont build the stuff i dont use! |
| 18:28.23 | Gnarfoz | oh |
| 18:28.25 | Gnarfoz | meh |
| 18:28.27 | znf | why the fuck is here a 30s video ad on twitch? |
| 18:28.29 | Gnarfoz | I'll use default then, np |
| 18:28.43 | Gnarfoz | ah, there's a qt5 x86 one |
| 18:28.51 | nevcairiel | the webkit feature is stupid anyway, but i guess some people like sound notifications |
| 18:28.55 | Gnarfoz | worth getting it for being qt5? I have zero idea if that's useful or not |
| 18:29.22 | nevcairiel | eh, i have a qt5 build now, didnt notice a difference to qt4 |
| 18:29.28 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: I'd like your versions pls |
| 18:30.02 | Stanzilla | (with qt5) |
| 18:30.34 | znf | is the mobile client as good as irccloud? |
| 18:30.49 | nevcairiel | https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bzo8vvjNtaZ5NWRvUEVHZlF2cXM/edit?usp=sharing |
| 18:31.21 | nevcairiel | 64-bit with qt5 |
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| 18:31.29 | Stanzilla | thx |
| 18:31.44 | Gnarfoz | irccloud client is really very nice, have to agree |
| 18:33.08 | EthanCentaurai | qt3.14 |
| 18:33.43 | Fisker | You're a qt3.14 |
| 18:33.45 | nebula169 | http://nebularg.com:64004/ ! |
| 18:33.51 | nevcairiel | i see what you did there EthanCentaurai |
| 18:33.54 | EthanCentaurai | aww, thanks Fisker <3 |
| 18:34.18 | Gnarfoz | nebula169: is that the github thing that hasn't seen further development in months now? |
| 18:34.23 | Gnarfoz | or something else |
| 18:34.32 | nebula169 | yea, it is |
| 18:34.39 | nebula169 | (github thing) |
| 18:34.51 | znf | can I shellshock it? |
| 18:35.09 | nebula169 | negative |
| 18:35.11 | Gnarfoz | huh, I can pick between "quassel", "quasselclient", "quasselcore" - which one do I actually want (on my desktop) |
| 18:35.15 | Gnarfoz | I'm thinking client? :D |
| 18:35.18 | nevcairiel | quasselclient |
| 18:35.20 | Gnarfoz | but what is the one with no suffix |
| 18:35.28 | nebula169 | standalone irc |
| 18:35.31 | nevcairiel | a monolithic client, it has a built-in core |
| 18:35.35 | znf | client + core |
| 18:35.36 | Gnarfoz | ahh |
| 18:35.50 | Gnarfoz | why is that not one and the same program oO |
| 18:36.20 | nevcairiel | i think it was easier to flip some c ompiler flags instead of trying to make the UI be sane about it |
| 18:36.29 | Stanzilla | http://puu.sh/bUdw5/aa586856be.jpg <3 |
| 18:36.32 | nevcairiel | fine for me tbh, i would never use it |
| 18:36.53 | Gnarfoz | so one speaks irc |
| 18:36.56 | Gnarfoz | and the other speaks quassel? |
| 18:37.15 | Gnarfoz | nah, nonsense |
| 18:37.18 | Gnarfoz | nevermind me :D |
| 18:37.24 | znf | What does PXE have to do with it? |
| 18:37.34 | znf | can I finally, reliably, without a tons of work, boot windows install over pxe? |
| 18:37.36 | Stanzilla | ... |
| 18:38.48 | Gnarfoz | nothing has to do with it |
| 18:39.05 | Gnarfoz | if you don't get what that slide is saying, you might not be the intended target audience ;D |
| 18:39.34 | Gnarfoz | grr @ no debian-specific readme |
| 18:39.41 | znf | I get what the slide is saying... I'm just not sure why "know about PXE" is a valid argument :P |
| 18:39.53 | Gnarfoz | what storage backend does it use. is there a default user... y u no configdir for tls |
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| 18:40.04 | Gnarfoz | what. |
| 18:40.05 | nebula169 | quassel? sqlite |
| 18:40.10 | Gnarfoz | "argument" for what |
| 18:40.25 | Gnarfoz | nebula169: since it can do more than that... that might be, or might not be |
| 18:40.43 | znf | "do you know PXE? then you're out target user!" |
| 18:40.45 | nebula169 | it is true |
| 18:41.02 | Gnarfoz | nebula169: for Debian's "quassel-core" package? |
| 18:41.05 | nebula169 | yes |
| 18:41.09 | Gnarfoz | znf: ...are you dumb or something |
| 18:41.12 | Gnarfoz | nebula169: ok, ty |
| 18:41.30 | nebula169 | it's in /var/lib/quassel |
| 18:41.50 | Semlar | it's for people who know what those terms on the slide mean, amg |
| 18:42.02 | Gnarfoz | znf: CLEARLY they threw a bunch of terms on a slide that not every user knows, added some funny to it and said "if you know this shit, Windows preview program might be for you" |
| 18:42.15 | znf | not funny |
| 18:42.18 | Gnarfoz | nothing deeper, no arguments, bleh |
| 18:42.32 | nebula169 | can change the backend with --select-backend= |
| 18:42.43 | Semlar | znf doesn't appreciate light humor |
| 18:42.44 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I'm looking at the man file |
| 18:43.02 | nebula169 | think it's just postgres and sqlite, though |
| 18:43.04 | znf | Semlar, MS is a "serious" company. Trying "a funny" doesn't suit them! |
| 18:43.10 | nevcairiel | note that the only alternative is postgresql, not everyone runs that already |
| 18:43.15 | Gnarfoz | MS is a serious company? meh to that |
| 18:43.45 | Stanzilla | pretty sure microsoft of all "serious" tech companies did the most "funny"s of them all |
| 18:44.05 | Stanzilla | I'd even classify ballmer as a funny |
| 18:44.10 | nebula169 | crazy* |
| 18:44.16 | Gnarfoz | developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk |
| 18:44.23 | Gnarfoz | paging Fisker |
| 18:44.30 | Fisker | hey Gnarfoz |
| 18:45.32 | Stanzilla | http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/09/30/recent-android-l-build-shows-up-on-video-in-chromium-issue-tracker-with-tweaked-nav-status-icons/ |
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| 18:48.17 | Stanzilla | https://dribbble.com/shots/1720984-Chrome-Material-Design/attachments/276143 I really like material design |
| 18:48.36 | Stanzilla | just the new icons they are doing are werid |
| 18:49.18 | znf | wonder if Xposed framework will be "fixed" for ART |
| 18:50.38 | znf | will be very sad without it |
| 18:59.11 | Stanzilla | Hello Top Graph Editor! |
| 18:59.12 | Stanzilla | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:59.12 | Stanzilla | Greetings from Facebook! Itâs Connie (your Community Manager), and I wanted to send you a note of thanks for all of the helpful edits you have made to make Facebook better for the community at large! You are one of our top editors, so I want to send you our newly designed Graph Editor t-shirt. Iâm only sending it to a special select few, so I hope you will wear it with pride. |
| 18:59.14 | Stanzilla | lol |
| 18:59.26 | znf | cool |
| 19:00.06 | Fisker | Huh? |
| 19:00.13 | znf | he's getting a free t-shirt |
| 19:00.42 | Stanzilla | from facebook! |
| 19:00.57 | EthanCentaurai | he helped develop facebook and all he got was this lousy t-shirt |
| 19:00.59 | Fisker | I don't get it |
| 19:01.10 | znf | he edited places |
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| 19:01.16 | znf | and he's getting a t-shirt |
| 19:07.24 | EthanCentaurai | i want a t-shirt :< |
| 19:09.40 | znf | there http://www.qwertee.com/ |
| 19:10.02 | znf | heh http://shirt.woot.com/offers/hare-cut?ref=cnt_wp_0_5 |
| 19:25.07 | EthanCentaurai | Pretty sure I pissed off every WoWace moderator ever. |
| 19:25.27 | Stanzilla | pretty sure you didn't |
| 19:27.38 | EthanCentaurai | I dunno, I reported like half the comments on the website as spam. :B |
| 19:35.49 | Funkeh` | Unless that was today I generally fix those |
| 19:36.11 | Gnarfoz_ | how do I SASL with Quassel? |
| 19:36.20 | Gnarfoz_ | freenode's page says it supports it but doesn't have an explanation :( |
| 19:36.35 | Funkeh` | I see no reports pending |
| 19:37.08 | Gnarfoz_ | wow you can actually sign in with client certificates |
| 19:37.09 | Gnarfoz_ | neat |
| 19:37.17 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz_: the auth page has a sasl page somewhere |
| 19:37.23 | Gnarfoz_ | I'll dig |
| 19:37.23 | znf | clearly Gnarfoz_ has something to hide! |
| 19:37.27 | nevcairiel | also, i'm not sure certs work with freenode |
| 19:37.32 | Gnarfoz_ | it's on freenode's page |
| 19:37.40 | Gnarfoz_ | https://freenode.net/certfp/certfp-quassel.shtml |
| 19:37.58 | nevcairiel | networks -> auto identify, there is a sasl thing |
| 19:38.09 | nevcairiel | maybe freenode fixed it then |
| 19:38.19 | Repo | weakauras-2: 03stanzilla 076.0 * r105 Prototypes.lua: Totems: Add remaining time check (by Infus) |
| 19:38.35 | Gnarfoz_ | k, I'm still in the initial setup wizard, maybe I'll have to complete that first |
| 19:38.43 | nevcairiel | possibly |
| 19:39.22 | Repo | weakauras-2: 03stanzilla 076.0 * r106 WeakAurasOptions/RegionOptions/model.lua: Models: Disable choose model when unit is enabled |
| 19:39.24 | nevcairiel | i got two items from one boss, that must mean i wont get any other items for the next 3 weeks o.o |
| 19:39.41 | EthanCentaurai | Funkeh`: aye, it was earlier on but ZeldoKavira sorted them out |
| 19:41.06 | Repo | weakauras-2: 03stanzilla 076.0 * r107 (3 files in 3 directories): Model: Guard against non existing models (by Infus) |
| 19:42.53 | Gnarfoz_ | huh why is the default to send utf-8, receive "Fallback" 8859-15 and "server encoding 8859-1" |
| 19:43.01 | Gnarfoz_ | is freenode actually that backwards? |
| 19:43.14 | Gnarfoz_ | nevermind, freenode doesn't touch what clients send |
| 19:43.27 | Gnarfoz_ | I guess I have to use the override functionality and set it all to utf-8? |
| 19:43.27 | Repo | weakauras-2: 03stanzilla 076.0 * r108 WeakAurasOptions/WeakAurasOptions.lua: Fix wrong label on import page in rare cases (by Infus) |
| 19:43.39 | nevcairiel | if you dont override it, it'll do what the network advertises |
| 19:43.42 | nevcairiel | i never had to touch it ever |
| 19:43.52 | Gnarfoz_ | hm |
| 19:44.15 | nevcairiel | although freenode says CHARSET=ascii |
| 19:44.32 | Gnarfoz_ | that's... not 8859-1 |
| 19:44.32 | Gnarfoz_ | :D |
| 19:44.35 | Repo | weakauras-2: 03stanzilla 076.0 * r109 Transmission.lua: Fixes a nil error on importing (by Infus) |
| 19:44.35 | Gnarfoz_ | well, close enough |
| 19:44.48 | nevcairiel | anyway i have the override off, and i can see utf8 just fine |
| 19:45.08 | Gnarfoz_ | why does the identity - advanced thing say I'm not connected to quassel securely |
| 19:45.22 | Repo | weakauras-2: 03stanzilla 076.0 * r110 (2 files in 2 directories): |
| 19:45.22 | Repo | Hides the border options iff the border checkbox is unchecked. This cleans up the interface a little bit. This is in preparation of adding more options later. (by Infus) |
| 19:45.24 | Gnarfoz_ | it should be using my cert :| |
| 19:45.34 | nevcairiel | did you put a ssl cert into the core config dir? |
| 19:45.43 | nevcairiel | you can see that in the status bar too |
| 19:45.54 | nevcairiel | greeen shiled = core connection is ssl |
| 19:46.14 | Repo | weakauras-2: 03stanzilla 076.0 * r111 WeakAurasOptions/RegionOptions/aurabar.lua: |
| 19:46.14 | Repo | Similar to the previous patch hides various settings if they aren't enabled and also renames the misnamed "text" and "timer" settings. (by Infus) |
| 19:46.19 | Gnarfoz_ | red shield |
| 19:46.21 | Gnarfoz_ | and yes I did |
| 19:46.35 | Gnarfoz_ | it even complained that it wasn't there before I fixed the permissions |
| 19:47.43 | Repo | weakauras-2: 03stanzilla 076.0 * r112 WeakAurasOptions/RegionOptions/aurabar.lua: |
| 19:47.43 | Repo | More clean up. This combines all symbol related options. Note, that this does introduce a difference between aurabar and icon configuration. (by Infus) |
| 19:47.59 | Gnarfoz_ | hm, what's the "never time out actively" network status thing mean |
| 19:48.17 | Gnarfoz_ | oh, tooltips. |
| 19:48.29 | Gnarfoz_ | only show up when program is actuall in focus :p |
| 19:49.33 | Repo | weakauras-2: 03stanzilla 076.0 * r113 (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 19:49.33 | Repo | Add support for abilities with charges (not backwards compatible, by Infus) |
| 19:51.39 | Repo | weakauras-2: 03stanzilla 076.0 * r114 Transmission.lua: |
| 19:51.39 | Repo | Hardcode compression to Huffman, fixes the export/import of big groups (by Infus) |
| 19:51.44 | Stanzilla | almost done with spam |
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| 19:56.03 | Funkeh` | EthanCentaurai, who the fuck is ZeldoKavira? |
| 19:57.45 | Repo | weakauras-2: 03stanzilla 076.0 * r115 (2 files in 2 directories): |
| 19:57.46 | Repo | Adds a option for a spark to aurabars. The spark's texture, color and size can be configured. (by Infus) |
| 19:58.04 | EthanCentaurai | Funkeh`: dunno, but he locked the reports so I assumed he was a mod? |
| 19:58.25 | Funkeh` | never heard of him |
| 19:58.36 | Funkeh` | probably some random curse employee |
| 19:58.39 | EthanCentaurai | http://www.wowace.com/profiles/ZeldoKavira/ |
| 19:58.51 | Kaelten | Funkeh`: not random, but yes, he is. |
| 19:59.58 | Funkeh` | gone are the days that the people actually involved in wowace were on IRC and engaged with the community :( |
| 20:00.59 | Kaelten | hrm, yeah I should get him and the others in here. |
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| 20:02.02 | EthanCentaurai | sorry :( |
| 20:02.04 | Gnarfoz_ | moarusers! |
| 20:02.20 | Gnarfoz_ | nevcairiel: hm, do I need to do anything to make it use (or even complain about lack of) tls? |
| 20:02.38 | Ressy | ooooh.. Does that mean Jaded's gonna come play in here Kaelten? :) |
| 20:02.47 | nevcairiel | it should auto-select the best format |
| 20:02.52 | Kaelten | Ressy yup |
| 20:03.08 | Stanzilla | make it part of their contract |
| 20:03.08 | Ressy | oh this'll be fun |
| 20:03.12 | Stanzilla | they have to stay in here :D |
| 20:03.45 | Gnarfoz_ | *** Your forward and reverse DNS do not match, ignoring hostname |
| 20:03.48 | Gnarfoz_ | y u lie, freenode |
| 20:03.57 | Kaelten | we'll get the new mod team in here. :) |
| 20:04.23 | Gnarfoz_ | how does freenode even have some forward dns to check |
| 20:04.33 | nevcairiel | "how"? |
| 20:04.39 | Gnarfoz_ | yes, how |
| 20:04.41 | nevcairiel | many i rc networks do this to avoid spoofing |
| 20:04.44 | Gnarfoz_ | it's not like I'm telling them one |
| 20:04.59 | Gnarfoz_ | or... oh god I should sleep more |
| 20:05.03 | nevcairiel | it checks the reverse entry for your ip, and then checks if the forward lookup to that reverse also matches the ip again |
| 20:05.08 | Gnarfoz_ | the result of the reverse, checked forward, doesn't match |
| 20:05.19 | Gnarfoz_ | yeh yeh |
| 20:05.24 | Gnarfoz_ | they should check the v6 then! that matches! |
| 20:05.26 | Gnarfoz_ | lazy freenode. |
| 20:05.35 | Semlar | why don't you match |
| 20:05.35 | nevcairiel | do you connect over v6? |
| 20:05.47 | Gnarfoz_ | no idea what quasselcore binds to for outbound |
| 20:05.57 | nevcairiel | kinda automatic i think |
| 20:05.59 | Gnarfoz_ | probably another program that doesn't let me control that |
| 20:06.00 | nevcairiel | uses v6 for me tho |
| 20:06.42 | Gnarfoz_ | nah, actually uses v6 |
| 20:06.43 | Gnarfoz_ | so what gives |
| 20:07.04 | *** join/#wowace Zeldo (uid31320@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-eoqiqkcyznnxqmwl) |
| 20:07.15 | EthanCentaurai | hi Zeldo |
| 20:07.18 | Gnarfoz_ | I guess it checked the v4 result of the forward lookup |
| 20:07.21 | EthanCentaurai | sorry about the spam |
| 20:07.23 | Gnarfoz_ | because that's the only thing that doesn't match |
| 20:07.31 | Zeldo | lol |
| 20:07.34 | Zeldo | I appreciate the reports |
| 20:07.38 | nevcairiel | but how would it ever know your v4 ip Gnarfoz_ |
| 20:07.40 | Zeldo | Cleaned up all related accounts as well |
| 20:07.48 | Gnarfoz_ | from the forward lookup of the reverse-result, nevcairiel |
| 20:07.49 | Ressy | Hey Zeldo |
| 20:07.52 | Gnarfoz_ | irc.geektour.de |
| 20:07.56 | Zeldo | Hello |
| 20:07.59 | nevcairiel | but that makes no sense |
| 20:08.05 | nevcairiel | it would compare a v4 to a v6 then |
| 20:08.09 | Gnarfoz_ | no, it doesn't, but it's technically possible |
| 20:08.14 | Gnarfoz_ | perhaps they don't even check |
| 20:08.20 | nevcairiel | and it would imply it would break for everyone using v6 |
| 20:08.22 | Gnarfoz_ | and just do gethostbyname or whatever and get multiple results |
| 20:08.23 | nevcairiel | and tbh, it works for me :D |
| 20:08.32 | Gnarfoz_ | well what does your v6 PTR point to |
| 20:08.40 | Gnarfoz_ | and what's the AAAA of that |
| 20:09.00 | Gnarfoz_ | I guess I could remove the v4 AAAA from irc.geektour.de and see what happens |
| 20:09.05 | Gnarfoz_ | errr |
| 20:09.06 | Gnarfoz_ | A |
| 20:09.08 | Gnarfoz_ | < dumb |
| 20:09.27 | nevcairiel | lol it uses the host name of some website i'm hosting now |
| 20:09.33 | nevcairiel | crazy uncontrollable output up |
| 20:09.34 | nevcairiel | ip* |
| 20:09.50 | Gnarfoz_ | right, I'm even dumber than I thought |
| 20:09.55 | nevcairiel | gj? |
| 20:09.59 | Gnarfoz_ | I was already on the "can't control oubtbound IP" track |
| 20:10.04 | Gnarfoz_ | and missed that it's using ::6 |
| 20:10.05 | Gnarfoz_ | not ::4 |
| 20:10.19 | Gnarfoz_ | I have no idea which hostname that belongs to |
| 20:10.32 | Gnarfoz_ | haha ok |
| 20:10.33 | Gnarfoz_ | my email domain |
| 20:10.35 | Gnarfoz_ | gj |
| 20:10.55 | Semlar | tries to calm gnarfoz down |
| 20:10.56 | Gnarfoz_ | http://bugs.quassel-irc.org/issues/1040 |
| 20:11.04 | Gnarfoz_ | http://bugs.quassel-irc.org/issues/125 |
| 20:11.22 | nevcairiel | yeah it wasnt possible for a long time because qt4 didnt allow it |
| 20:11.57 | Gnarfoz_ | k, don't particularly care, vhost and so on |
| 20:12.04 | nevcairiel | same |
| 20:12.26 | Zeldo | Hrm, I hear people like picking on Kaelten |
| 20:12.34 | Zeldo | That is mine and jaded's favorite pasttime |
| 20:12.35 | Gnarfoz_ | also, even if no vhost, all of the possible PTRs my IPs could resolve to are domains that have my full info in the WHOIS anyway ;P |
| 20:12.45 | Ressy | Zeldo: Its lots of fun. |
| 20:13.04 | Kaelten | :( |
| 20:13.05 | EthanCentaurai | ~poke Kaelten |
| 20:13.05 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Kaelten, pokes Kaelten repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 20:13.06 | Gnarfoz_ | nevcairiel: I guess I could restart the core in a loop until it picks the right one! |
| 20:13.12 | Kaelten | ~lart Zeldo |
| 20:13.12 | purl | slaps a compatible dib on Zeldo's head |
| 20:13.19 | Gnarfoz_ | sounds like a high-tech solution to a non-problem |
| 20:13.38 | nevcairiel | i wonder if the choice isnt deterministic, ie. it wouldnt change |
| 20:14.22 | Gnarfoz_ | seems to stick, probably just uses the highest IP |
| 20:14.25 | Kaelten | ~wave EthanCentaurai |
| 20:14.26 | purl | Bye, EthanCentaurai |
| 20:14.35 | EthanCentaurai | uh oh |
| 20:14.43 | nevcairiel | i should try that, my ipv6 subnet is giant enough to come up with some fancy high ip :p |
| 20:14.48 | Gnarfoz_ | huh, ident spoofing only works half of the time |
| 20:14.58 | nevcairiel | yeah there is some crazy race condition |
| 20:15.14 | Gnarfoz_ | using oidentd? |
| 20:15.18 | nevcairiel | some patches went in recently to improve that, but if you installed from debian as-is, you probably have a old version |
| 20:15.28 | Gnarfoz_ | 0.10.0, I think |
| 20:15.37 | Gnarfoz_ | yeh |
| 20:16.07 | nevcairiel | yeah 0.11 has the fix i think |
| 20:16.11 | nevcairiel | or well, improvement |
| 20:16.14 | nevcairiel | still happens sometimes |
| 20:19.08 | Fisker | Hey Kaelten |
| 20:19.18 | Kaelten | hey |
| 20:20.08 | Gnarfoz_ | nevcairiel: funnily enough, the winkde whatever guy who does builds has a 0.11 client build which I'm using, but debian maintainer person is on 0.10 |
| 20:20.18 | Gnarfoz_ | is 0.11 actually stable? their download site points to 0.10 |
| 20:20.25 | Gnarfoz_ | but the 0.11 build is in that guy's stable folder |
| 20:20.34 | nevcairiel | it was released last week or so, they slack updating the website as always |
| 20:21.12 | nevcairiel | the main dev is from southern germany somewhere though |
| 20:21.23 | Gnarfoz_ | neat |
| 20:21.29 | Gnarfoz_ | I'll go visit him with my Nerf gun |
| 20:21.49 | nevcairiel | well, it wasnt that hard to guess from the name that its a german project |
| 20:22.10 | Gnarfoz_ | no way |
| 20:22.11 | Gnarfoz_ | ;} |
| 20:22.18 | nevcairiel | hm, i transmoged my druid, now i like like a priest on vacation |
| 20:22.46 | nevcairiel | but its a leather set, kinda funky |
| 20:23.14 | Gnarfoz_ | slacker dns servers. |
| 20:23.17 | Gnarfoz_ | update already! |
| 20:23.40 | nevcairiel | and i'm out of valor points for upgrading again =( |
| 20:24.36 | Gnarfoz_ | ...:ffff::ffff should be high enough! |
| 20:24.46 | nevcairiel | hah |
| 20:24.48 | Gnarfoz_ | although it might also just be the IP added last to the interface, I dunno |
| 20:25.18 | nevcairiel | that reminds me, can i somehow make linux just listen on the entire subnet? i keep adding individual v6 ips to my interface |
| 20:26.10 | Gnarfoz_ | I don't think that's how it works(tm) |
| 20:26.25 | nevcairiel | probably wouldnt be a good idea |
| 20:26.39 | nevcairiel | anyhow, time for sleep, have to get up at like 6am tomorrow |
| 20:26.44 | Gnarfoz_ | ipv6 autoconfig stuff is somewhere "there"-ish |
| 20:26.51 | Gnarfoz_ | but also not quite what you're looking after |
| 20:26.59 | Gnarfoz_ | anyway, it's the IP added las to the interface |
| 20:27.01 | Gnarfoz_ | not the highest one |
| 20:27.15 | nevcairiel | guess thats just the order on the config file |
| 20:27.17 | Gnarfoz_ | easily fixable \o/ |
| 20:27.26 | Gnarfoz_ | rolls back dns changes |
| 20:27.28 | Stanzilla | oh man, this is so hard to read http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/09/30/alien-agenda-vi-the-worm-has-turned/ |
| 20:34.51 | znf | Stanzilla, didn't they change the perks to not be random anymore? |
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| 20:42.03 | nebula169 | still random, just not every level |
| 20:42.06 | nebula169 | (i think) |
| 20:42.42 | nevcairiel | its every second level now, and last i heard still random |
| 20:42.52 | nevcairiel | not that it matters, who cares about the levels between 90 and 100 |
| 20:44.51 | znf | Blizzard is being gay |
| 20:45.00 | znf | I can't summon my Soul Trader in BGs anymore :-| |
| 20:49.14 | Gnarfoz_ | I guess quassel really didn't like the cert to be a symlink |
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| 20:51.55 | Stanzilla | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfveyXCsiA8 |
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| 20:54.33 | Stanzilla | the teasing with the name is just too funny .D |
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| 20:55.38 | Gnarfoz_ | the mic scratching against his cheek is also "funny" |
| 20:55.50 | Gnarfoz_ | funny meaning annoying |
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| 21:36.00 | Stanzilla | sbdroid: I don't know if you use msysgit but they said they fixed gitsvn being broken in the last release in the new one |
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| 21:51.10 | harl | is there a way to run the /dump command from within a script? |
| 21:52.16 | EthanCentaurai | DevTools_Dump() iirc? |
| 22:01.03 | harl | yes, that sort of works but it only include the first part of the dump, the first parameter |
| 22:01.14 | harl | *includes |
| 22:01.52 | EthanCentaurai | print() might work but it doesn't usually like tables or functions |
| 22:03.29 | harl | yes, that's why i'd prefer the actual dump data. print strips the string of everything, symbols, colors etc |
| 22:05.13 | harl | basically no formatting |
| 22:06.57 | EthanCentaurai | i dunno, use several DevTools_Dump() calls :/ |
| 22:07.07 | EthanCentaurai | one for each thing |
| 22:07.18 | EthanCentaurai | AceDebug-2.0 even |
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| 22:10.25 | harl | whereas, say, /dump GetAchievementCriteriaInfo(7379,1), results in "Alchemy", 7, true, 600, 600, nil, 0, 171, "600", 5565, true |
| 22:10.52 | harl | DevTools_Dump(GetAchievementCriteriaInfo(7379,1)) only results in "Alchemy" and no colors |
| 22:12.03 | harl | multiple variables make no difference |
| 22:12.56 | nebula169 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:14.00 | EthanCentaurai | I'm happy to use print() for GetAchievementCriteriaInfo(7379,1) personally |
| 22:14.25 | nebula169 | i've always used tekkub's spew |
| 22:14.30 | znf | you should just use a memory debugger! |
| 22:14.38 | znf | attach to the process and start poking |
| 22:14.49 | znf | then you get a cookie from quiescens |
| 22:15.22 | harl | cookie of randomness |
| 22:15.58 | harl | thanks nebula169. maybe i can work something up from that list |
| 22:20.00 | znf | it's been one year |
| 22:20.09 | znf | and I still have no idea what I'm doing with my mouse that I trigger the charm bar |
| 22:21.00 | Stanzilla | BNA and agent update |
| 22:21.24 | Stanzilla | znf: you move it up at the right side of the screen |
| 22:21.40 | znf | Stanzilla, when that happens I usually have my mouse on the left side of the screen |
| 22:21.46 | znf | I know about the right side |
| 22:21.57 | znf | I'm just puzzled as to what the left-side gesture is |
| 22:22.07 | Stanzilla | task switcher |
| 22:22.33 | znf | nono, I mean, I'm getting the same thing as I do when I purposedly do the right thingie |
| 22:22.37 | Stanzilla | new scan for games on start http://i.imgur.com/SBZWGPp.png |
| 22:22.39 | znf | (ie: charm clock and charm bar) |
| 22:23.21 | Stanzilla | I disabled gestures |
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| 22:25.52 | znf | I thought I did, too |
| 22:29.09 | Gnarfoz | I'd like to disable the display border mouse cursor "barrier" |
| 22:30.09 | nebula169 | pretty sure there's a setting for that, i have mine only trap a very small area of the corner |
| 22:30.21 | Gnarfoz | not sure what you mean |
| 22:30.25 | Gnarfoz | I'm not talking of corners |
| 22:30.51 | nebula169 | i guess i'm not sure what you mean |
| 22:31.11 | Gnarfoz | when you move the cursor slowly across the border between two displays, Windows will "stop" you |
| 22:31.35 | Gnarfoz | and you have to keep moving the mouse in that direction to "break through" |
| 22:31.44 | Gnarfoz | only happens when you do it slowly |
| 22:32.08 | Gnarfoz | probably intended so you can trigger the charms/task switcher things even with multiple screens without going mad |
| 22:32.10 | nebula169 | yea, mine doesn't do that, i don't remember how, but i set it to ignore that and just do corners |
| 22:32.12 | Gnarfoz | (or something) |
| 22:32.36 | Gnarfoz | no idea, I'm not talking of charms, either |
| 22:32.44 | Gnarfoz | it's just annoying for the cursor to get stuck there :D |
| 22:32.46 | Gnarfoz | does nothing else |
| 22:33.23 | Gnarfoz | top right charms and top left app switcher checkboxes are both disabled |
| 22:33.30 | Gnarfoz | are there more settings somewhere else? |
| 22:34.03 | Stanzilla | mine doesn't do that either (the stopping) |
| 22:34.55 | Gnarfoz | HKEY_CURRENT_USER/Control Panel/Desktop/MouseMonitorEscapeSpeed |
| 22:34.57 | Gnarfoz | apparently |
| 22:35.02 | Gnarfoz | checks |
| 22:35.15 | Gnarfoz | (that was straight from stack-something without testing) |
| 22:35.54 | Gnarfoz | eh? that's at 0 |
| 22:35.56 | Gnarfoz | fuck that |
| 22:36.35 | Gnarfoz | well, or MouseCornerClipLength |
| 22:37.08 | Gnarfoz | I fear I might have to relog for that to do anything |
| 22:37.11 | nebula169 | HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ImmersiveShell\ create key EdgeUI, add DisableTLCorner and DisableTRCorner |
| 22:37.14 | nebula169 | is what i did |
| 22:37.16 | Gnarfoz | or restart some core component |
| 22:37.23 | nebula169 | disables the metro taskbar |
| 22:37.34 | Gnarfoz | huh, that sounds like it just does what the regular checkbox in taskbar properties already does |
| 22:37.45 | Gnarfoz | "disable top left corner" "top right corner"? |
| 22:37.59 | nebula169 | oh hey, it probably does |
| 22:38.18 | Stanzilla | I just use the settings in Start8 |
| 22:38.21 | nebula169 | forgot 8.1 added that stuff |
| 22:38.39 | Stanzilla | http://i.imgur.com/bdmc7l2.png |
| 22:39.26 | Gnarfoz | well, I don't use that (and I occasionally use the charms - well, only the settings charm, I guess) |
| 22:39.29 | nebula169 | wonder how it disables the start menu on secondary taskbars |
| 22:39.49 | Gnarfoz | GAH two IRC clients is confusing, I keep switching to hexchat first ;p |
| 22:39.52 | nebula169 | win+c -> charms |
| 22:40.02 | Gnarfoz | no, win+c = pause music |
| 22:40.03 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 22:40.06 | nebula169 | ew |
| 22:41.06 | Gnarfoz | need global hotkeys |
| 22:41.22 | Gnarfoz | MS adding more win+whatever hotkeys was always a danger ^^ |
| 22:44.43 | Gnarfoz | herp derp |
| 22:44.53 | Gnarfoz | neowin to the rescue |
| 22:45.13 | Gnarfoz | switching to clone displays and back to extend made it go away |
| 22:45.37 | Gnarfoz | that was so easy and yet so "why didn't I try that" ^^ |
| 22:46.30 | Gnarfoz | I hope I haven't gotten used to it by now, lots of misclicks inc |
| 22:48.31 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: I don't see any link preview thing in the regular build? maybe that's not in by default? |
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| 23:33.39 | Stanzilla | . |
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| 23:51.55 | harl | so.. this works: |
| 23:51.58 | harl | /run local c,z={"\124cff00FF00","\124cffDF42DF","\124cffFFC125"},{1,2,3,2,2,3,2,2,1,2,3} for n=1,11,1 do local s="" for k,v in pairs({GetAchievementCriteriaInfo(7379,n)}) do s=s..c[z[k]]..tostring(v)..", " end s=string.sub(s,1,-3) print(s) end |
| 23:52.26 | harl | it's a bit crude though.. any ideas? |
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