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| 00:12.42 | Repo | hellbender-dkp: 03celess * r158 HellbenderDKP.toc: - lib updates |
| 00:14.16 | Repo | hellbender-dkp: 03celess 042.4.23 * r159 : release |
| 00:18.15 | Repo | ka_raid-tracker: 03celess * r421 RaidTracker.toc: - lib updates |
| 00:19.33 | Repo | ka_raid-tracker: 03celess 042.4.48 * r422 : release |
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| 00:30.25 | znf | Gnarfoz, https://i.imgur.com/xNyYfpH.jpg |
| 00:30.25 | znf | :D |
| 00:51.52 | znf | Seriously, that Tier with tertiary stats is a horrile decision |
| 00:51.59 | znf | everything could have it, except tier... |
| 01:17.46 | Primer | oh boy |
| 01:18.04 | Primer | So I just got approached by someone on my realm looking for a "person that knows addons on curse" |
| 01:18.09 | Primer | So I volunteered |
| 01:18.30 | Primer | I thought perhaps he needed help with an addon. And yes, that turned out to be the case, but... |
| 01:18.35 | Primer | here's the code he pasted me: |
| 01:18.36 | Primer | TradeFrameCancelButton:SetScript( "OnClick", function() TradeFrameTradeButton:Click() end ) |
| 01:18.40 | Primer | TradeFrameCloseButton:SetScript( "OnClick", function() TradeFrameTradeButton:Click() end ) |
| 01:18.56 | Primer | So I tested it out, and I was like WTF IT WORKS |
| 01:19.04 | Primer | You'd think blizz would know about shit like this |
| 01:19.15 | Primer | Anyhow, he asked if I'd inject that code into an addon |
| 01:19.41 | Primer | I told him the curse people would probably have filters in place to detect such shit |
| 01:19.57 | Primer | If that's not actually the case, then now would be a good time to add such a filter, IMO |
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| 01:24.19 | Primer | crickets |
| 01:27.10 | Semlar | why would curse have filters to detect that |
| 01:29.53 | Primer | I presume they don't want to accidentally host addons with known exploits in them |
| 01:29.53 | Stanzilla | yeah sadly the trade api is still pretty open |
| 01:30.06 | Stanzilla | people have been abusting weakauras to share such code |
| 01:30.09 | Semlar | but.. there are addons for auto-trading |
| 01:30.42 | Neffi | Primer: It's not exactly easy (or possible) to detect these exploits in dynamic code |
| 01:31.13 | Semlar | and uploading an addon with that code would be a horrible, horrible way to actually get anything |
| 01:31.22 | Neffi | For instance, I could change the formatting slightly. Or maybe the filter is more aggressive to catch that, which would probably lead to false positives. In that case, I can obfuscate it trivially (and even make it so it doesn't necessarily look like obfuscated code, so no apparent Terms violation) |
| 01:31.28 | Semlar | but i guess your goal might just be to screw with people |
| 01:31.47 | Primer | How many addons do you think legitimately have to use TradeFrameCancelButton? |
| 01:31.49 | Primer | Seriously |
| 01:32.01 | Neffi | Maybe I want to make it sparkle? |
| 01:32.06 | Primer | grep -q TradeFrameCancelButton && GTFO() |
| 01:32.10 | Neffi | Maybe I want to tweak the UI, so I have to move the button |
| 01:32.30 | Semlar | there are so very many ways to do the same thing that it would be quite difficult to detect |
| 01:32.44 | Primer | But impossible without the string TradeFrameCancelButton |
| 01:32.50 | Semlar | no.. |
| 01:32.54 | Primer | well |
| 01:32.59 | Neffi | Or maybe I pack the characters into something like a C string and then index the button out of _G to make the changes. Your script wouldn't catch that |
| 01:33.03 | Primer | yeah, you could concatenate |
| 01:33.09 | Neffi | You could do all sorts of shit |
| 01:33.09 | Repo | frenemy: 03Torhal 07master * 5.4.8.6-2-ga9c9a59 Frenemy.lua: [+2 commits] |
| 01:33.09 | Repo | a9c9a59: Added the ability to set a not by Control-Left-Clicking a name. |
| 01:33.09 | Repo | 76a1ec1: Added help entry for Right-Left-Click. |
| 01:33.24 | Neffi | you can encode some script in a string, then later decode and loadstring() |
| 01:33.31 | Primer | right |
| 01:33.42 | Stanzilla | it's on blizzard to fix this, really |
| 01:33.43 | Semlar | we went over this with weak auras |
| 01:33.47 | Neffi | It will never be practical to try to statically analyze the source of Lua for known exploits, IMO |
| 01:33.57 | Neffi | exactly what Stanzilla said |
| 01:34.06 | Semlar | how would blizzard fix it |
| 01:34.21 | Neffi | they could make it protected |
| 01:34.22 | Primer | make access to that button be more...strict? |
| 01:34.33 | Semlar | unless they lock it down like the shop frame |
| 01:34.43 | Primer | at the very least, make it so you can't change any of its methods |
| 01:34.47 | Stanzilla | which would be the right thing to do |
| 01:34.47 | Primer | moving it, sure, that's fine |
| 01:34.56 | Stanzilla | you dont need to able to change the trade frame really |
| 01:35.00 | Primer | s/methods/event handlers/ |
| 01:35.03 | Stanzilla | that just calls for shit to happen |
| 01:35.14 | Neffi | they could make :Click() calls not propagate the "hardware event" flag for certain things, so a *real* click is required. and protect the API. |
| 01:36.05 | Semlar | so i just replace the button with my own button |
| 01:36.24 | Neffi | if your button cannot call the API to perform trades, then you can't do harm |
| 01:36.34 | Neffi | at least, you can't cause an "illegal" trade |
| 01:36.39 | Semlar | so i can't make my own trade frame |
| 01:36.46 | Neffi | A tradeoff for safety |
| 01:36.55 | Semlar | this is preposterous safety measures |
| 01:37.03 | Stanzilla | stop raping me |
| 01:37.16 | Semlar | you'd have to be running an exploit |
| 01:37.17 | Neffi | Try making your own chat frame from scratch without reusing parts of framexml, esp the edit box. How do you support players typing /cast? you can't. Tradeoff for safety |
| 01:37.19 | Repo | arl: 03Torhal 07WoD * 3.0.5-60-g74d9e88 Utilities.lua: [+1 commit] Fix for Blizzard's inexplicable decision to change the GUID delimiter to a dash. |
| 01:38.10 | quiescens | o.o |
| 01:39.19 | Torhal | safely trades Neffi off for a Aboriginal Australian. |
| 01:39.28 | Torhal | sn* |
| 01:39.30 | Torhal | an* |
| 01:39.35 | Torhal | Fucking fuckity fuck |
| 01:39.40 | Torhal | blames quiescens. |
| 01:39.42 | quiescens | dies. |
| 01:39.42 | Neffi | no Torhal |
| 01:39.50 | Neffi | if I promise to play you the didgeridoo, will you keep me? |
| 01:39.54 | Stanzilla | hey Torhal |
| 01:39.57 | Stanzilla | on yosemite yet? |
| 01:40.04 | Torhal | Neffi: ... |
| 01:40.06 | Torhal | Stanzilla: No. |
| 01:40.11 | Stanzilla | why nawt |
| 01:40.15 | Torhal | I'm coding. |
| 01:40.27 | Stanzilla | so you are on windows atm? |
| 01:40.28 | Torhal | And I need to cannibalize the RAM from my old iMac. |
| 01:40.33 | Torhal | ... |
| 01:40.36 | Torhal | Mavericks, you fool. |
| 01:40.40 | Stanzilla | :D |
| 01:40.44 | Torhal | Windows == Work. |
| 01:41.21 | Torhal | I really should have done the RAM thing when I got this machine in January. |
| 01:41.29 | Torhal | 16GB in the old one, 8GB in the new one... |
| 01:42.33 | Primer | no, Linux == work |
| 01:48.01 | Torhal | Not where I work. |
| 01:52.05 | Stanzilla | I could not live with just 8gb of ram |
| 02:00.39 | Torhal | It's evil. |
| 02:00.42 | Torhal | I'm lazier. |
| 02:11.41 | quiescens | go to sleep |
| 02:14.52 | Repo | big-wigs: 03nebula169 * r11974 Loader.lua: WoD guid fix |
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| 02:30.59 | Repo | frenemy: 03Torhal 07master * 5.4.8.6-3-g6153c13 Frenemy.lua: [+1 commit] Fixed sorting for guild public notes. |
| 02:31.15 | Repo | frenemy: 03Torhal 045.4.8.7 * 94f4ac5 /: [new tag] |
| 02:49.38 | Stanzilla | I see what you did there, Kesava |
| 02:49.55 | Stanzilla | taking "lightweight" out of the name |
| 02:49.56 | Kesava | huh whu |
| 02:49.58 | Kesava | oh |
| 02:50.01 | Kesava | yes |
| 02:50.17 | Kesava | i changed the description on the site ages ago and forgot to change the toc |
| 02:50.19 | Kesava | so yeah |
| 02:50.20 | Stanzilla | will directly result in a loss of about 20 hippy users that only had it because it said that |
| 02:52.06 | Stanzilla | Torhal loves that word btw :p |
| 02:52.14 | Stanzilla | how's the rewriting going? |
| 02:56.48 | quiescens | what is torhal rewriting? |
| 03:01.23 | Kesava | yees i removed it because it was silly |
| 03:01.39 | Kesava | haven't done anything to it since last time |
| 03:01.45 | Kesava | i don't work on it very often. |
| 03:02.32 | Stanzilla | quiescens: arl probably, for the 10th time :D |
| 03:02.39 | quiescens | oic |
| 03:02.52 | Stanzilla | and was saying that he hates the word "lightweight" |
| 03:03.19 | quiescens | close enough |
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| 03:34.58 | Stanzilla | Fisker: buy some 980 |
| 03:35.01 | Stanzilla | for me |
| 03:35.24 | Fisker | nah |
| 03:35.35 | Stanzilla | why not |
| 03:35.53 | Stanzilla | my 680 needs exchanging |
| 03:35.57 | Fisker | ok |
| 03:38.09 | Stanzilla | Fisker: I'll give you entertaining XSS as payment |
| 03:38.10 | Stanzilla | http://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=txt%3a+jamiehankins.co.uk&run=toolpage |
| 03:50.36 | Stanzilla | Fisker: new nvidia drivers |
| 03:50.44 | Fisker | Already installed |
| 03:50.47 | Fisker | also old Stanzilla |
| 03:50.52 | Stanzilla | also fuck you |
| 03:51.00 | Fisker | And fixed a lot of the places it worked too :( |
| 03:51.04 | Stanzilla | link for the rest of the channel http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/geforce-344-11-whql-driver-download.html |
| 03:53.01 | Stanzilla | direct3d api version 11.2 |
| 04:03.35 | Fisker | I can no longer ctrl+tab |
| 04:03.40 | Fisker | good jawb |
| 04:04.19 | Stanzilla | works for me |
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| 04:05.11 | Fisker | wut |
| 04:05.15 | Fisker | I can ctrl+shift-tab |
| 04:05.20 | Fisker | but ctrl+tab does not work |
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| 04:27.01 | Fisker | the sense it makes none Stanzilla |
| 04:27.22 | Stanzilla | yeah I have no idea what you are talking about either :p |
| 04:27.55 | Fisker | what is difficult to process about ctrl+tab not working? |
| 04:28.57 | Stanzilla | works for me! |
| 04:29.05 | Stanzilla | also maybe just restart the program it is not working in |
| 04:31.42 | Fisker | It's system level Stanzilla |
| 04:32.14 | Stanzilla | restart |
| 04:32.20 | Fisker | I'm not dumb Stanzilla |
| 04:51.50 | Fisker | yeah |
| 04:51.54 | Fisker | driver uninstalled = no issues |
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| 04:58.48 | Fisker | reinstalling worked though |
| 05:00.58 | Torhal | So you're smart Stanzilla, Fisker? |
| 05:01.46 | Fisker | yep Torhal |
| 05:01.53 | Torhal | Awrite. |
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| 05:05.57 | Stanphone | fisker nevcairiel $10k Gaming Rig does Crysis in 12k! Intel Haswellâ¦: http://youtu.be/UQYU4mNP_a4 |
| 05:07.14 | Fisker | :3 |
| 05:07.17 | Neffi | isn't Titan Z dual GPU? |
| 05:08.27 | Neffi | those are not even Titan Zs. They are Titans, or Titan Blacks. |
| 05:08.38 | Neffi | I think quad 780 Tis would be faster |
| 05:12.37 | Neffi | He's also wrong about how the cooler works <_< |
| 05:37.47 | quiescens | gives neffi a cookie |
| 05:38.07 | Neffi | nibbles on said cookie |
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| 06:55.57 | sb | morning |
| 06:59.24 | quiescens | hai |
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| 07:43.30 | nevcairiel | i like the 980 numbers |
| 07:43.34 | nevcairiel | puts on shopping list |
| 07:51.46 | nevcairiel | I wonder if i can use Dynamic Super Resolution with WoW to get rid of anti-aliasing needs :d |
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| 08:04.57 | Workfoz | damn it, I think I forgot my jacket at the chinese restaurant I went to before going to the movies |
| 08:05.22 | nevcairiel | :( |
| 08:06.07 | Workfoz | I remember thinking "don't put it on the chair across the table, you'll forget it" >_> |
| 08:06.48 | Workfoz | I blame the two pretty girls 2 tables over :D |
| 08:06.52 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 08:08.07 | Neffi | nevcairiel: "Dynamic Super Resolution" <- so, we're back to multi-sampling the whole frame? |
| 08:08.24 | nevcairiel | its called super sampling |
| 08:08.40 | nevcairiel | multi sampling is something else |
| 08:09.18 | Neffi | wasn't multi-sampling invented so we weren't spending time rendering a frame as multiples of the resolution just to antialias? |
| 08:09.35 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 08:09.52 | nevcairiel | but DSR is not a primary tool against anti-aliasing |
| 08:09.56 | nevcairiel | it has another target use |
| 08:09.58 | Neffi | I'd like to see if this really makes a perceptible difference, other than bring a few $1000 cards to their knees |
| 08:10.04 | Workfoz | *against aliasing |
| 08:10.13 | nevcairiel | its still early, yes?!? |
| 08:10.14 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 08:10.16 | Neffi | yeah, Workfoz, it's late here <_< |
| 08:10.23 | Workfoz | it's early here |
| 08:10.25 | Workfoz | well... not really |
| 08:10.28 | Neffi | yeah it's 4 am and I havent been to bed yet |
| 08:10.31 | Workfoz | already past Knoppers-time |
| 08:10.31 | nevcairiel | i slept in |
| 08:10.57 | Neffi | <nevcairiel> it has another target use <- what? |
| 08:11.08 | Workfoz | so I have to go to Karlsruhe again tonight, blech |
| 08:11.38 | nevcairiel | super sampling can increase the perceived depth and detail |
| 08:11.45 | nevcairiel | it depends on the game in question obviously |
| 08:13.29 | Neffi | I wonder how perceptible it is. And it'll probably take a huge chunk of frame time that could be used for better lighting/shadows/liquid/etc -- something that can always get better |
| 08:14.00 | nevcairiel | well, which is why i'm thinking about wow, which is pretty CPU bound, but CPU doesnt need to scale up much when you increase the resolution |
| 08:14.10 | nevcairiel | so if i can make it use extra gpu resources! |
| 08:14.16 | Neffi | ah, I guess so |
| 08:14.45 | nevcairiel | i will get one of the cards in any case, so might as well try |
| 08:14.46 | Neffi | see I'm the opposite. I'd be happy knowing I'm not spending my GPU's full few-hundred-watt power budget to run the game <_< |
| 08:15.11 | nevcairiel | if i pay $500 on a gpu, i want its power to be useeeed |
| 08:15.19 | wink | stop wasting money :> |
| 08:15.30 | nevcairiel | its mine to waste, so i will! |
| 08:16.31 | Workfoz | *using money |
| 08:16.33 | Workfoz | :D |
| 08:17.29 | Neffi | More games should support FXAA |
| 08:17.34 | nevcairiel | but FXAA sucks |
| 08:17.39 | Neffi | nevcairiel: but does it? |
| 08:17.42 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 08:17.52 | nevcairiel | quite certainly |
| 08:18.00 | Neffi | There's something about certain games that bothered me and I couldn't place it |
| 08:18.25 | nevcairiel | try FXAA in WoW 6.0, it blurs out the entire game |
| 08:18.40 | Neffi | When your poly count isn't high enough, you get sharp lines in places that don't make sense. Like the edge of trees, etc. I actually prefer having the slight blur of FXAA, because it makes those scenes feel more organic |
| 08:18.49 | Neffi | no, I wouldn't use FXAA in WoW! |
| 08:18.54 | nevcairiel | CMAA is at least an acceptable alternative, but hopefully they keep their promise and investigate other solutions for upcoming updates |
| 08:19.02 | Neffi | but it actually makes a few games look nicer. especially skyrim |
| 08:19.12 | nevcairiel | well, its not like you get much of a choice in WoW, MSAA is going away |
| 08:19.36 | Neffi | I actually play with no AA in WoW. Graphics are not a selling point for me in WoW |
| 08:19.45 | nevcairiel | but aliasing is horrible <.< |
| 08:20.02 | Neffi | I don't notice it in WoW, because I'm too busy paying attention to other things |
| 08:20.18 | nevcairiel | are you sure you dont have multisampling in the ingame settings on? :p |
| 08:20.28 | nevcairiel | its not directly called anti-aliasing |
| 08:20.31 | Neffi | positive. it's definitely there |
| 08:24.44 | nevcairiel | damn, i forgot to harvest on my farm yesterday |
| 08:24.56 | nevcairiel | i'll never finish these damn cooking things if i slack away like this! |
| 08:25.42 | Neffi | so irresponsible, nevcairiel |
| 08:25.56 | mitch0 | nevcairiel: farmville is still a thing? |
| 08:26.04 | nevcairiel | wow farm :( |
| 08:26.12 | nevcairiel | i wanted to catch up the cooking skilling before the xpac |
| 08:26.47 | wink | o_O |
| 08:30.54 | Workfoz | =) |
| 08:31.08 | Workfoz | I have some cooking quest in my quest log |
| 08:31.12 | Workfoz | not even sure where that leads |
| 08:31.19 | Workfoz | is it the n0000dle cart? |
| 08:31.27 | Workfoz | (have to defeat sha of doubt) |
| 08:31.54 | nevcairiel | yeah thats noodle card |
| 08:31.58 | nevcairiel | i finished that one some time ago |
| 08:32.07 | nevcairiel | now i need to cook all the 300 stat foods |
| 08:32.27 | nevcairiel | but probably not going to bother with the quest |
| 08:32.31 | nevcairiel | just want all ways on 600 |
| 08:32.52 | Workfoz | wha |
| 08:32.55 | Workfoz | dang |
| 08:33.00 | Workfoz | what fits into the toy box? |
| 08:33.04 | nevcairiel | toys |
| 08:33.15 | Workfoz | is there a flag for it or something |
| 08:33.17 | znf | shitloads of stuff |
| 08:33.19 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 08:33.30 | Workfoz | wonder how much space I'll get |
| 08:33.32 | nevcairiel | items that do show "Toy" in the tooltip in 6.0 |
| 08:33.38 | Workfoz | I guess I could transfer my char to ptr (or beta, if that works now) and check |
| 08:33.41 | znf | and yes, the new AA options suck in 6.0 |
| 08:33.44 | znf | I chosed no AA :-/ |
| 08:33.49 | nevcairiel | CMAA is ok |
| 08:33.51 | Workfoz | CMAA is fine |
| 08:33.53 | znf | else the blurring on the text is horrible |
| 08:34.08 | Workfoz | it doesn't touch text, does it |
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| 08:34.14 | nevcairiel | dont resize the window after the game started |
| 08:34.16 | znf | the in-world text |
| 08:34.18 | nevcairiel | there appears to be a bug |
| 08:34.25 | Workfoz | I don't have in-world text |
| 08:34.28 | znf | why would I resize the window...? |
| 08:34.35 | nevcairiel | dunno, some people apparently do |
| 08:34.40 | znf | npc names are blurred |
| 08:34.56 | Workfoz | npc names? |
| 08:34.58 | nevcairiel | thats not in-world text |
| 08:34.58 | Workfoz | nameplates are not in-world :D |
| 08:35.02 | Workfoz | names are |
| 08:35.05 | Workfoz | nameplates are not |
| 08:35.13 | znf | did I fuckin' say nameplates? |
| 08:35.24 | nevcairiel | even names may be painted on top of the 3d world af ter |
| 08:35.33 | nevcairiel | i didnt notice any blurring in the beta though |
| 08:35.37 | Workfoz | they might, but they aren't, if they're affected by it |
| 08:36.01 | Workfoz | neither did I, I think I actually do have friendly NPC names enabled |
| 08:36.23 | Workfoz | GotG was fun |
| 08:36.43 | Workfoz | anyone else get the feeling in 3D shows that the screen is quite small (even though it might be huge) |
| 08:36.56 | znf | gotg? |
| 08:37.04 | Workfoz | Guardians of the Galaxy |
| 08:37.08 | znf | ah |
| 08:37.15 | nevcairiel | youz even watched it in imax and you think it was small? |
| 08:37.17 | znf | what's with the abbreviation? >_< |
| 08:37.32 | Workfoz | yeah, what is with it? it's how it's abbreviated |
| 08:37.41 | znf | weirdo. |
| 08:37.53 | Workfoz | the "the screen is small" feeling only started when 3D started |
| 08:37.56 | znf | I was annoyed that there was no 2D showing... |
| 08:38.03 | znf | I really dislike 3D movies unless imax :-/ |
| 08:38.16 | Workfoz | i.e. it was fine/huge during the 2d trailers, then got this weird "why is my FoV limited suddenly" impression in 3D |
| 08:38.19 | Workfoz | it was IMAX |
| 08:38.20 | Workfoz | however... |
| 08:38.23 | nevcairiel | i dislike fake 3d movies, but GotG was fine |
| 08:38.29 | znf | I didn't see it in imax :( |
| 08:38.33 | znf | we only have 1 imax, in bucharest |
| 08:38.48 | Workfoz | we have 2, and luckily it's only ~30 km away |
| 08:38.55 | nevcairiel | maybe because of the 3d glasses Workfoz? |
| 08:39.14 | Workfoz | you mean because of their rims? I don't think that was it |
| 08:39.35 | Workfoz | I'm not sure if this was IMAX digital, tho (which is basically no better than 1080p 3D, just brighter) |
| 08:39.38 | znf | loading WoW on a normal HDD sucks |
| 08:40.07 | nevcairiel | well the glasses themself take a bit of depth out of the experience |
| 08:40.27 | Workfoz | oO without them, there is no depth at all |
| 08:40.45 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/aHZx2gp.png - FXAA High |
| 08:40.48 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/OCeO0YE.png - FXAA Low |
| 08:40.57 | Workfoz | hello? nobody cares about FXAA |
| 08:40.59 | Workfoz | CMAA! |
| 08:41.07 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/PIiVpu2.png - No AA |
| 08:41.20 | Workfoz | I certainly still noticed the "objects with negative Z (i.e. between the screen an me) are hard to discern" and "stuff is blurry in lots of places, especially during movement" problems, though |
| 08:41.28 | Workfoz | I wonder if that's better with HFR |
| 08:41.30 | Workfoz | (it should) |
| 08:41.30 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/g3JcId3.png - CMAA |
| 08:41.58 | Workfoz | I don't see a difference between No AA and CMAA |
| 08:42.08 | Workfoz | (maybe it's because the shots are not aligned >:D) |
| 08:42.20 | Workfoz | oh my, FXAA is bad |
| 08:42.30 | Workfoz | get rekt, Mac users |
| 08:42.48 | znf | unfortunately I can't use CMAA |
| 08:43.01 | Workfoz | y u no cmaa |
| 08:43.12 | znf | in crowded places I drop to like 10 FPS |
| 08:43.25 | Workfoz | it should use less resources than FXAA, not more |
| 08:43.46 | znf | last time I tried it in the shrine |
| 08:43.54 | znf | FXAA Low - 80fps |
| 08:43.56 | znf | CMAA - 10 |
| 08:43.58 | znf | O.O |
| 08:44.23 | nevcairiel | why would the shrine be crowded in the beta |
| 08:44.48 | Workfoz | actually, Intel blog says it should be very close to identical; depending on vendor and resolution, a bit higher or a bit lower, but only marginally |
| 08:44.49 | znf | it just was that day :D |
| 08:45.05 | Workfoz | anyway, that sounds like a bug/shortcoming of some kind |
| 08:45.12 | Workfoz | it's just a different pixel shader |
| 08:45.19 | nevcairiel | might have been improved as well, depending on when this was |
| 08:45.37 | nevcairiel | in any case, FXAA sucks and we all agree, CMAA is however acceptable, even if not perfect |
| 08:45.49 | quiescens | moo |
| 08:46.19 | Workfoz | does the "quality border" stuff from Blizzard work in custom bags, too? |
| 08:46.22 | Workfoz | *addons |
| 08:46.39 | Workfoz | or do I still need... actually, I don't think I have ... whatever haste's colouring addon was called anymore |
| 08:46.46 | Workfoz | Bagnon integrated that a while ago |
| 08:47.03 | nevcairiel | dunno, combuctor has it built-in as well |
| 08:47.28 | nevcairiel | but i suppose it might be part of the item template now |
| 08:47.31 | nevcairiel | if blizzard does it |
| 08:47.40 | Workfoz | toy box + extra void storage room is going to be awesome |
| 08:47.52 | Workfoz | so much free space in my bank |
| 08:48.07 | quiescens | vendor everyfing |
| 08:48.12 | Workfoz | are raw gems "reagents"? |
| 08:48.28 | quiescens | you're a reagent! |
| 08:48.49 | Workfoz | saves me another row in my inventory (I'm lazy and always carry around a stack of each, so I don't have to relog to fetch them from my AH char) |
| 08:48.52 | nevcairiel | Workfoz: do they show crafting reagent in the tooltip? |
| 08:49.10 | Workfoz | no idea |
| 08:49.12 | nevcairiel | (as of 6.0 that is, new thing) |
| 08:49.17 | nevcairiel | well if they do, they go into the bank! |
| 08:49.18 | Workfoz | I haven't logged into 6.0 of any form in a long while |
| 08:49.22 | Workfoz | The dropdown menus you access when you right-click on a player portrait have been improved. |
| 08:49.36 | Workfoz | does that include being able to use them for addons without tainting shit all over the place |
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| 08:50.28 | nevcairiel | they just restructured the contents of those dropdowns |
| 08:50.42 | znf | holy shit 8 missions available on my garrison |
| 08:50.52 | znf | so they really do provide catch-up mechanisms |
| 08:51.08 | nevcairiel | i always have so many, and i dont have a follower that can counter powerful spells, so i can never do those :P |
| 08:51.23 | nevcairiel | but i'm also only 93 |
| 08:52.08 | znf | I just do them on the lvl100 premade |
| 08:52.48 | Workfoz | I like how the tech blog didn't explain one iota WHY they're removing MSAA; it doesn't stress the GPU shaders at all :| + as we know, MSAA can be done with deferred lighting/rendering if you're using at least D3D10 (which they are) |
| 08:53.12 | nevcairiel | its quite complicated to do it with deferred rendering though |
| 08:53.19 | nevcairiel | even if possible |
| 08:53.23 | Workfoz | didn't sound like it with the d3d10 stuff. |
| 08:54.38 | znf | Oh. |
| 08:54.44 | znf | Torhal's MailMinder is ARR :-( |
| 08:55.07 | znf | I wanted to steal like half his code |
| 08:55.38 | nevcairiel | do it anyway |
| 08:55.58 | Workfoz | anyway, it's clear they wanted to do more flashy/fancy graphics shit realized that's easier to do with the deferred-something route, so they kicked MSAA to the curb ^^ |
| 08:56.22 | nevcairiel | they did promise further improvements and even a look at alternate AA concepts in the future, so maybe we get SMAA or something like that |
| 08:56.32 | znf | uhm |
| 08:56.35 | Workfoz | znf: ask him :p ARR is the weapon against wowmatrix, tentonhammer, etc. not against you (well, he might still hate you :D) |
| 08:56.48 | znf | it seems that you can run out of followers |
| 08:56.50 | Workfoz | meh, I don't want pixel shader crap blur AA, MSAA was fine |
| 08:57.01 | znf | I have one mor emission available |
| 08:57.03 | nevcairiel | znf: you only have 20 active followers |
| 08:57.05 | znf | but no followers :D |
| 08:57.17 | nevcairiel | just wait until a couple of the 1h missions are done |
| 08:58.03 | znf | mhm |
| 08:58.20 | znf | Garrison is a huge timesink |
| 08:58.41 | nevcairiel | usually you would run the missions like once a day and be done? :p |
| 08:59.01 | nevcairiel | or if you send the guys off to do a raid mission, you have a few days off |
| 09:00.08 | znf | there's lots of 30min missions though |
| 09:00.14 | znf | most of them are 6h or below |
| 09:00.21 | nevcairiel | but you dont get new missions once those are all done |
| 09:00.49 | znf | while testing I did get |
| 09:01.00 | znf | dunno if that's specific to the beta now |
| 09:02.57 | znf | I'm getting better at overriding these animations! |
| 09:05.01 | znf | the code is a mess though |
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| 09:06.51 | nevcairiel | i think i should start buying my new X99 PC, so i have something to put the new gpu into |
| 09:06.59 | nevcairiel | goes browsing for parts |
| 09:07.23 | znf | I really need to get a new GPU before WoD :-/ |
| 09:07.48 | nevcairiel | a 970 is a great offer if you can afford â¬250-300 |
| 09:08.39 | nevcairiel | although probably more in romania |
| 09:09.32 | znf | not even sure if I should look at the price here :D |
| 09:10.05 | znf | 369⬠|
| 09:10.21 | nevcairiel | well today is release day, prices may settle a bit over the next weeks |
| 09:10.29 | Workfoz | is that big maxwell finally |
| 09:10.41 | nevcairiel | well 970 isnt the big-big, that would be 980 |
| 09:10.43 | nevcairiel | but sure |
| 09:10.43 | Workfoz | I haven't had time to pay attention to that |
| 09:10.51 | znf | Woah. WTH. |
| 09:10.53 | Workfoz | just compared to 750ti I meant |
| 09:10.58 | znf | There's Halaa battle tokens? :o |
| 09:11.04 | nevcairiel | they released 980 and 970 today, yes |
| 09:11.06 | znf | an Halaa research tokens? :o |
| 09:11.06 | Workfoz | always been? |
| 09:11.13 | nevcairiel | halaa was a big fail tho |
| 09:11.16 | Workfoz | indeed |
| 09:11.18 | znf | are they the same item id? :o |
| 09:11.20 | Workfoz | but... Talbuks |
| 09:11.23 | znf | as the old one? |
| 09:11.27 | Workfoz | oh you mean new ones? hm |
| 09:11.28 | nevcairiel | i got the reputation talbuk |
| 09:11.31 | znf | yes Workfoz |
| 09:11.37 | nevcairiel | and i love it |
| 09:11.42 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/wPlXQfd.png |
| 09:11.44 | znf | oh |
| 09:11.47 | Workfoz | I think I also only have the rep one |
| 09:11.49 | znf | it's the same id! |
| 09:11.59 | Workfoz | 26044 sounds very BC-y |
| 09:12.05 | nevcairiel | it is |
| 09:12.31 | nevcairiel | might just be a mistake, wowhead also doesnt list any new uses for them |
| 09:12.38 | Workfoz | are you playing too much WoW when you can match items to expansions by looking at the ID |
| 09:12.53 | nevcairiel | but you could buy the pvp talbuks with those tokens, so i wouldnt mind :p |
| 09:13.08 | Workfoz | that's probably why they're making them available there |
| 09:13.25 | nevcairiel | 100 is quite a lot though |
| 09:13.30 | nevcairiel | you need like 20 for a talbuk |
| 09:13.34 | Neffi | well, there's new talbuks with new models |
| 09:13.37 | nevcairiel | well, 20 research, 100 battle |
| 09:13.39 | Neffi | much more detailed |
| 09:14.26 | Workfoz | http://geizhals.de/palit-geforce-gtx-970-ne5x970014g2f-a1167957.html hmmm 310⬠|
| 09:14.32 | Workfoz | but this is day 1 |
| 09:14.37 | Neffi | oh wow I thought the 9xx series was still a couple months off |
| 09:14.43 | nevcairiel | release today |
| 09:14.53 | Workfoz | it has been a very long time since the Maxwell debut |
| 09:14.56 | Workfoz | about time |
| 09:15.04 | nevcairiel | Workfoz: man that thing is ugly, better get one with a pure reference cooler, not a re-painted one |
| 09:15.07 | Neffi | I wouldn't call that a real debut |
| 09:15.18 | Workfoz | nevcairiel: the picture is even wrong, clearly shows different connectors than what's listed |
| 09:15.26 | Workfoz | but yeah. screw random-ass custom coolers |
| 09:15.39 | nevcairiel | well the good custom coolers are decent |
| 09:15.45 | nevcairiel | but that one ljust looks terrible |
| 09:15.47 | Workfoz | Neffi: uh... what. they released two products based on it. how much more debut-y can you get |
| 09:15.54 | Workfoz | I just picked the cheapest one :D |
| 09:15.57 | znf | wonders when Torhal wakes up |
| 09:16.10 | Workfoz | it's... o-dark-hundred there, so... it'll be a while |
| 09:16.14 | Neffi | I thought you meant when they debuted that low-end Maxwell-based card |
| 09:16.25 | haste | Workfoz: oGlow! |
| 09:16.33 | Workfoz | that's what I meant. Maxwell's primary gain is less power draw for similar performance |
| 09:16.45 | Workfoz | which is exactly why they premiered those cards first |
| 09:16.54 | Workfoz | haste: ah, yes. |
| 09:17.00 | Workfoz | I thought it was one of the crazy anime named ones |
| 09:17.58 | nevcairiel | wtf is wrong with mindfactory, nearly all of the parts i want are on backorder |
| 09:18.18 | nevcairiel | while other shops have them |
| 09:18.23 | Workfoz | guess what? other people: same idea as you :p |
| 09:22.18 | nevcairiel | well guess i have to order from like 4 shops then |
| 09:22.23 | nevcairiel | because everyone has different parts available |
| 09:22.28 | quiescens | go to sleep o.o |
| 09:23.21 | znf | I guess still my "best" upgrade option is a 750Ti |
| 09:25.39 | nevcairiel | for its budget its a great card |
| 09:25.43 | znf | 134⬠|
| 09:25.58 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 09:26.04 | nevcairiel | if you cant afford more, its a good buy |
| 09:27.19 | Workfoz | good thing Geizhals has that "cheapest way to order from several shops" optimizer, nevcairiel =) |
| 09:27.33 | nevcairiel | sure, still annoying |
| 09:27.56 | znf | so many animations in that garrison |
| 09:27.57 | nevcairiel | and the checkout in one of the shops is broken, hah |
| 09:28.18 | nevcairiel | (and apparently i had more money in my paypal account than i knew) |
| 09:29.35 | nevcairiel | must've not emptied it after the last curse payments |
| 09:31.16 | nevcairiel | and everything ordered, except the GPU |
| 09:33.27 | nevcairiel | including a 850 pro 1tb, i'm going big this time |
| 09:37.03 | znf | yeah, I definately need to make a MissionMinder LDB display |
| 09:38.44 | znf | and Torhal's code is so readable ^^ |
| 09:39.10 | sb | znf: whats missionminder? |
| 09:39.16 | nevcairiel | shouldnt be hard to build, just need to decide on a decent way to store and display the information |
| 09:39.33 | znf | that's why I wanted to "borrow" Torhal's code :S |
| 09:39.47 | znf | sb, that thing I said about a reminder for follower missions |
| 09:39.51 | nevcairiel | sb: he wants to track garrison missions across different alts |
| 09:39.59 | sb | yup, started that already :p |
| 09:40.04 | sb | but not going to be finished soon :p |
| 09:40.08 | sb | because slow |
| 09:40.10 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:40.15 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:40.17 | bluspacecow | wat |
| 09:40.20 | nevcairiel | see znf, let sb build iit for you |
| 09:40.22 | nevcairiel | also, bluspacecow is broken |
| 09:40.25 | znf | nevcairiel, but i want curse points! |
| 09:40.32 | bluspacecow | i dunno y i broken |
| 09:40.46 | nevcairiel | curse points are the best |
| 09:40.48 | znf | sb, race you? :D |
| 09:40.52 | nevcairiel | they practically paid for my new PC |
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| 09:45.20 | znf | and http://i.imgur.com/8TKv9o4.png :P |
| 09:47.38 | Workfoz | nevcairiel: I want the 850 pro (I explained already that I'm going to hate myself if I buy an 840 evo or m550 instead), but it's soooo horribly expensive (530â¬!) |
| 09:47.55 | nevcairiel | i know how much it costs, i just paid for it |
| 09:48.00 | znf | that's, like, 1/3 of my car! |
| 09:48.02 | Workfoz | yeah:| |
| 09:48.09 | znf | ...which I still broke the ECU |
| 09:48.10 | Workfoz | which just means you have way too many curse points |
| 09:48.14 | Workfoz | :D |
| 09:48.18 | znf | and I need to wait for my friend to fix it >_< |
| 09:48.22 | nevcairiel | yeah i paid like 1700⬠in curse points just now |
| 09:48.40 | Workfoz | the most expensive thing I paid for with Curse points was the Twilight books box set |
| 09:48.41 | nevcairiel | and 500 from my bank |
| 09:48.41 | znf | 1700⬠in curse points? |
| 09:48.42 | Workfoz | xD |
| 09:48.42 | znf | wtf? |
| 09:48.49 | Workfoz | 10k points = 500$ |
| 09:48.57 | nevcairiel | i get around $500 each month or so |
| 09:49.02 | Workfoz | so 5 months worth of points for nev, probably |
| 09:49.03 | znf | O.O |
| 09:49.42 | Workfoz | MysticalOS: does tandanu give you any points for DBM btw :D |
| 09:49.53 | znf | I really hate wowprogramming for using google search |
| 09:49.54 | Workfoz | or does he take all of that for himself without doing any actual work |
| 09:50.00 | znf | he gets a share now |
| 09:50.06 | Workfoz | tell it to jnwhiteh, Ph. D. |
| 09:50.08 | znf | after he brought the issue up :P |
| 09:50.14 | nevcairiel | Workfoz: not PhD |
| 09:50.28 | nevcairiel | his university calls it DPhil or so |
| 09:50.49 | sb | znf: couldnt do anything yesterday because broken beta just give me ~1 week to do it :p |
| 09:50.58 | sb | dont want to ripp off other addons |
| 09:51.01 | sb | -p |
| 09:51.09 | znf | *shrug* ripping off is fine :D |
| 09:51.15 | znf | as long as you get permission :P |
| 09:51.20 | nevcairiel | anyhow, i get most of my points from bartender, and a big chunk on top from all the libraries, like ace3 |
| 09:51.31 | sb | inspiration - okay, but i dont like copying all the code + change it |
| 09:52.02 | Workfoz | nevcairiel: uh, "Ph. D." stands for the same thing :o didn't we talk about this when it came up a couple of days ago xD |
| 09:52.17 | Workfoz | (well ok, I guess we don't go around calling German Dr.'s Ph. D.'s either. fair enough) |
| 09:52.34 | nevcairiel | well, its not the same, its up to the university to define how its called, and there is apparently a difference |
| 09:52.52 | znf | sb, well, I really want that addon, so even you make it or I make it :D |
| 09:52.58 | znf | No point in us both doing it |
| 09:53.09 | nevcairiel | he already said he would make it :p |
| 09:53.13 | znf | yeah, but he lazy |
| 09:53.15 | znf | and slow :D |
| 09:53.45 | sb | you mean "has a life" and "has a job"? :p |
| 09:53.54 | Workfoz | what addon? |
| 09:54.00 | znf | nevcairiel has both! and look at him! |
| 09:54.01 | znf | :D |
| 09:54.03 | sb | maybe i could do some stuff after lunch, will see |
| 09:54.07 | nevcairiel | znf: i have a life? |
| 09:54.10 | Workfoz | "has a life" is invalid, making addons is part of "having a life" if you want to |
| 09:54.16 | znf | Workfoz, a LDB feed to track follower missions on alts |
| 09:54.25 | nevcairiel | all the life i have is going to the cinema once a week |
| 09:54.29 | znf | ow :( |
| 09:54.29 | nevcairiel | and i did t hat this week already! |
| 09:54.35 | Workfoz | ok, I literally know nothing about how that stuff works, so I'm not well suited to taking that up |
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| 09:55.19 | znf | Workfoz, Nothing too complex. GARRISON_MISSION_STARTED fires, get a list of all running missions. get the time to completion |
| 09:55.26 | znf | stick them into the db |
| 09:55.32 | znf | read them out, notify on completion |
| 09:56.00 | bluspacecow | mmm new kindle voyage |
| 09:56.02 | bluspacecow | so tempting |
| 09:56.05 | bluspacecow | soo soo tempting |
| 09:56.07 | Workfoz | but you have to keep track of it yourself |
| 09:56.11 | Workfoz | i.e. no info about missions for other chars |
| 09:56.11 | bluspacecow | wat do ? |
| 09:56.12 | Workfoz | right? |
| 09:56.17 | nevcairiel | right |
| 09:56.18 | bluspacecow | LEFT! |
| 09:56.21 | nevcairiel | thats where the addon comes in |
| 09:56.35 | znf | exactly ^ |
| 09:56.37 | Workfoz | right, it'd just be a dumb display otherwise |
| 09:56.55 | Workfoz | ok, so IT guy is trying to enhance my calm |
| 09:57.05 | znf | Workfoz, C_Garrison.GetInProgressMissions() on alts |
| 09:57.06 | nevcairiel | how is he doing that |
| 09:57.13 | znf | and hook it up to addon loader && garrison_ui |
| 09:57.33 | Workfoz | because "but we don't have many devices that need to be reverse mounted into the racks", "and the ones we do (switches) are up high in the rack, so the PDU won't be in the way of their screws" |
| 09:57.52 | nevcairiel | guess t hat makes sense |
| 09:57.55 | Workfoz | and "we can just attach the PDUs last, after putting in the servers that need screws" |
| 09:58.08 | Workfoz | it makes sense, but is stupid and short-sighted |
| 09:58.11 | sb | znf: + track time + display + allow to delete data etc. |
| 09:58.24 | Workfoz | what if we want to take them out? get new stuff that needs screws on the back? |
| 09:58.26 | Workfoz | blech. |
| 09:58.33 | Workfoz | ^^ |
| 09:58.49 | nevcairiel | no making Workfoz happy! |
| 09:58.51 | znf | Why would you delete data manually? |
| 09:59.02 | Workfoz | nevcairiel: not with this kind of "it's good enough" attitude :| |
| 09:59.15 | Workfoz | they're not the ones who will be racking those servers |
| 09:59.23 | nevcairiel | just get more racks, so you dont have this problem |
| 09:59.25 | Workfoz | it'll be me and the other guy |
| 09:59.28 | Workfoz | haha yeah |
| 09:59.40 | Workfoz | "can only use top 1/6th of the rack, because the rest is blocked by the PDUs, sorry" |
| 09:59.52 | nevcairiel | its not like rack space costs money |
| 10:00.26 | znf | Hmm. The only "hard" part is to convert the timeLeft string into an actual usable number, I guess :D |
| 10:00.30 | Workfoz | I should write down how much each rack costs |
| 10:00.33 | Workfoz | not even sure |
| 10:00.46 | nevcairiel | znf: they give you a string from the API? that feels sucky |
| 10:00.49 | Workfoz | power/cooling is separate, afaik |
| 10:00.49 | znf | (hard for me, because I would not know how to do it without parsing the string in a butcher-y way) |
| 10:00.58 | znf | nevcairiel, http://www.wowace.com/paste/10644/ seems so |
| 10:01.04 | znf | duration="1 hr 30 min", |
| 10:01.07 | znf | durationSeconds=5400, |
| 10:01.10 | Workfoz | I think we already have more racks than we need |
| 10:01.12 | znf | timeLeft="1 hr 3 min", |
| 10:01.12 | znf | :D |
| 10:01.35 | Workfoz | I should p2v some more servers |
| 10:01.39 | znf | though you shouldn't need to rely on that |
| 10:01.57 | Workfoz | so I can go tell bossguy "ok you can save some xyz ⬠over the next 3 years because we don't need this much space" |
| 10:02.04 | nevcairiel | well you can of course pick it up when its started, but its a good fallback to be able to sync against the timeleft |
| 10:02.11 | nevcairiel | wonder if there is a global string you could deformat |
| 10:02.24 | Workfoz | deformats Torhal |
| 10:02.31 | znf | When GARRISON_MISSION_STARTED fires, you can just get durationSeconds I guess |
| 10:02.35 | nevcairiel | i build a magic deformater for quester! |
| 10:02.47 | nevcairiel | because not needing to localize the shit is much good |
| 10:03.00 | znf | hmm, I didn't even think of localization |
| 10:03.33 | nevcairiel | the problem for quester was that the order of arguments can change depending on language, so i had to do some wicked magic |
| 10:03.37 | znf | Oh. There's C_Garrison.GetMissionTimes |
| 10:03.53 | znf | wonder what arguments it takes |
| 10:04.04 | nevcairiel | check where its called |
| 10:04.08 | znf | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:04.26 | nevcairiel | doesnt tell you time remaining tho |
| 10:04.30 | znf | yeah :( |
| 10:04.35 | znf | or, well, let's see |
| 10:04.44 | znf | nah, it's generic info |
| 10:05.06 | nevcairiel | fixed duration feels kinda artificial though, it should be like 30-60minutes and it just takes how long it takes to fight the mob! |
| 10:05.24 | znf | well, some followers can halfen the duration |
| 10:06.09 | nevcairiel | mhm more 980s showing up in shops, mostly reference models so far |
| 10:06.32 | znf | so misionID is something like a quest ID |
| 10:06.43 | znf | just generic info, nothing that relates to your char |
| 10:08.01 | EthanCentaurai | steals nevcairiel's curse points. |
| 10:08.11 | nevcairiel | i just spend them all! |
| 10:08.18 | nevcairiel | actually, thats not true, i have like 9000 again |
| 10:08.27 | nevcairiel | can only spend them at 10000 |
| 10:09.50 | znf | yeah, ok... http://i.imgur.com/gSRFo16.png |
| 10:10.01 | EthanCentaurai | I have like, 700 :/ |
| 10:10.20 | Repo | big-wigs: 03funkydude 04r11975-release * r11975 : Tagging as r11975-release |
| 10:10.57 | znf | let's see how this localization thing works |
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| 10:13.18 | znf | Entrar al Mundo |
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| 10:15.25 | znf | oh, ok, what was I thinking? |
| 10:15.37 | nevcairiel | i dont know |
| 10:15.40 | znf | ofc that in spanish it's also "1 h 30 min" |
| 10:15.41 | znf | ... |
| 10:15.57 | nevcairiel | probably not in asia or russia |
| 10:16.02 | nevcairiel | but who knows |
| 10:17.25 | znf | the fuck |
| 10:17.31 | znf | ptBR s 1.1gb |
| 10:20.01 | Fisker | znf |
| 10:20.07 | znf | yes Fisker |
| 10:20.09 | Fisker | Got my invite |
| 10:20.13 | Fisker | Do you want it |
| 10:20.20 | znf | to what? OnePlus? |
| 10:20.20 | Fisker | For Google domains |
| 10:20.20 | nevcairiel | Fisker i ordered my x99 system now |
| 10:20.25 | znf | Oh, not really Fisker |
| 10:20.34 | znf | I don't have anything to buy *shrug* |
| 10:20.37 | Fisker | Where is gtx 970 reviews? |
| 10:20.44 | znf | pass it along, maybe someone is interested |
| 10:20.52 | Fisker | You might want your other stuff there :P |
| 10:21.20 | Fisker | Anyway my remaining money goes to nexus and blizzcon and maybe a sfp |
| 10:21.30 | znf | I doubt I can easily transfer .ro domains |
| 10:21.31 | Fisker | So no gtx for me nevcairiel |
| 10:21.33 | nevcairiel | Fisker: http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/nvidia-geforce-gtx-970-and-980-reference-review,1.html has 970 |
| 10:21.54 | Fisker | How does it compete with 780 non-ti |
| 10:22.07 | Fisker | At not work working for free |
| 10:22.10 | nevcairiel | beats it, but just barely |
| 10:22.28 | znf | Fisker, if you can't find any other taker, I'll take it |
| 10:22.35 | nevcairiel | 5% over 780 or so |
| 10:22.42 | Fisker | I'll see when I get home |
| 10:22.47 | Fisker | And the 980? |
| 10:22.58 | nevcairiel | beats 780ti 15-20% |
| 10:23.14 | Fisker | And non? |
| 10:23.16 | nevcairiel | or 780 30%+ |
| 10:23.16 | znf | But seriously, why the f* does C_Garrison.GetInProgressMissions() return a string? :-| |
| 10:23.18 | Fisker | Ok |
| 10:23.49 | nevcairiel | its a worthy upgrade from 780 non-ti, especially since it also OCs very well, so should be some decent factory OCs |
| 10:27.23 | EthanCentaurai | weeps. |
| 10:29.13 | znf | http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2014/09/18/newest-androids-will-join-iphones-in-offering-default-encryption-blocking-police/ |
| 10:29.16 | znf | How will this work? |
| 10:29.22 | Workfoz | great, I got a colleague who lives in Karlsruhe to fetch my jacket-sweatshirt-thing |
| 10:29.23 | znf | wait, brb |
| 10:31.11 | nevcairiel | did you call the place if they actually found it Workfoz? |
| 10:32.02 | Workfoz | yes |
| 10:33.29 | Workfoz | Fisker: sfp at home? |
| 10:34.04 | nevcairiel | maybe he refers to something else |
| 10:34.18 | Workfoz | I'm looking to maybe do that, but I'd really need a media converter or mixed switch first; I have a 20 m CAT5 cable running through my place |
| 10:34.22 | Workfoz | it's... annoying at times |
| 10:34.29 | Workfoz | especially since there's a door involved. |
| 10:34.49 | nevcairiel | and a different kind of cable would solve that how? |
| 10:34.50 | Workfoz | although fiber wouldn't really help that much, it'd just break a lot more easily |
| 10:34.57 | Workfoz | but it's A LOT thinner. |
| 10:35.04 | nevcairiel | i guess that it is |
| 10:35.35 | Workfoz | it's an interior door anyway, depending on where along the door... frame? step? thing! it is when I close the door, it either fits easily, snugly, or actually obstructs the door |
| 10:36.08 | Workfoz | (i.e. the door doesn't fit the frame totally accurately) |
| 10:36.26 | Workfoz | guess I could try drilling through the wall :p |
| 10:36.27 | nevcairiel | luckily i dont need to pass any doors with my network cables |
| 10:36.43 | Workfoz | I think I'd have to consult my landlord for that first, though |
| 10:37.09 | nevcairiel | for a tiny cat5 hole, i probably wouldnt bother to ask, just patch it up when you leave :p |
| 10:38.26 | Megalon | ask how the kabelschächte are in your home |
| 10:38.36 | Megalon | and pull one cat cable trough them :o |
| 10:39.02 | znf | https://i.imgur.com/f7IOgUQ.png |
| 10:39.55 | Megalon | bigtitts19 |
| 10:40.36 | Megalon | is that the name you use when you scam people from civilzed countries, znf? |
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| 10:40.54 | znf | 21. |
| 10:41.55 | Workfoz | Kabelschächte, lulz |
| 10:42.23 | Workfoz | I doubt there are any |
| 10:42.47 | Workfoz | nevcairiel: I don't really want to make my own cables |
| 10:43.11 | nevcairiel | you're a server guy and you're afraid of attaching a plug to one cable? :P |
| 10:43.14 | Workfoz | and a hole for a cable with a plug is a bit bigger |
| 10:43.32 | Workfoz | afraid? no, but a) you need the proper equipment and b) it's seriously error prone |
| 10:43.53 | Megalon | too bad you don't live in the 'muricas |
| 10:43.54 | Workfoz | (which is why a lot of people avoid it, especially in a professional environment) |
| 10:44.03 | Megalon | over there you could just punch a hole through the wall |
| 10:44.06 | Workfoz | yeah |
| 10:44.12 | Workfoz | falcon punch, done |
| 10:44.29 | nevcairiel | well, sure, you need a crimp zange(english?), but i've crimped so many cables in my time for the LAN party |
| 10:44.41 | nevcairiel | you jsut cant buy 100m cables with plugs already attached :D |
| 10:44.53 | Workfoz | sure you can, but I also don't need 100 m :P |
| 10:45.20 | nevcairiel | just saying why we had to crimp them ourselves |
| 10:45.29 | nevcairiel | getting cables on a 500m spool is much easier |
| 10:45.37 | Workfoz | sure |
| 10:45.55 | nevcairiel | and while it went wrong occasionally, we of course also had tester hardware |
| 10:46.02 | nevcairiel | so you jsut did it again! |
| 10:46.03 | Workfoz | that helps a lot |
| 10:46.32 | nevcairiel | and even though our lan parties kinda died out now, the hardware is still in some basement somewhere, if i ever needed it :d |
| 10:46.33 | Megalon | teste hardware = 1 9v battery + tongue? |
| 10:46.41 | Workfoz | I've done it successfully of course, but really like to avoid it ^^ |
| 10:46.55 | Workfoz | I guess I could do the proper thing |
| 10:47.07 | Workfoz | and attach a socket to each end |
| 10:47.10 | nevcairiel | one guy actually had a real proper tester, with frequency testing and everything, but he worked in that field, so he borrowed it from work |
| 10:47.15 | Workfoz | and use short pre-configured cables from there. |
| 10:47.35 | nevcairiel | those things are otherwise fucking expensive |
| 10:48.05 | nevcairiel | we had a bunch of cheap testers otherwise that just test for connectivity on the matching pairs |
| 10:48.17 | nevcairiel | if you got the order right, every line has connectivity etc |
| 10:49.11 | nevcairiel | that reminds me of this one lan party where some idiot managed to cut through a cable while cutting bread |
| 10:49.20 | nevcairiel | had to patch it up right there |
| 10:50.06 | Workfoz | lawl |
| 10:50.18 | Workfoz | gj sleep deprived gamer |
| 10:50.28 | nevcairiel | they denied it of course, but you could totally see the bread crumbs right there |
| 10:50.42 | nevcairiel | i think it was a gamers girl friend actually |
| 10:50.58 | nevcairiel | it was one of those lans where we rented a vacation park with these small houses and networked them |
| 10:51.11 | nevcairiel | so they bring family |
| 10:52.57 | nevcairiel | ...and the cable went in the kitchen window |
| 10:53.04 | nevcairiel | probably bad idea, but the only decent window to use |
| 10:53.35 | Workfoz | ^^ |
| 10:54.00 | nevcairiel | man i miss those events |
| 10:54.10 | nevcairiel | a week of fun like no other |
| 10:54.39 | nevcairiel | despite us being the organizing party, and not strictly there for fun, but it still was, lots of it |
| 10:55.18 | nevcairiel | our lead guy moved to australia, and it went all downhill from there |
| 11:00.41 | sb | znf: so yuo are doing it? :p |
| 11:02.13 | Workfoz | can you somehow buy several items from the same seller in one action, on ebay? |
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| 11:02.40 | Workfoz | their description even mentions "if you order more than one thing, put them all in the basket to combine shipping costs" |
| 11:02.45 | Workfoz | but ebay doesn't have baskets |
| 11:03.27 | Workfoz | best I can see is ordering more than 1 copy of the *same* item |
| 11:03.33 | Workfoz | but they're 3 different auctions/offerings |
| 11:03.43 | Workfoz | guess I'll have to email them afterwards |
| 11:03.53 | Workfoz | (but... paypal... you pay instantly. gaah) |
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| 11:05.16 | Stanzilla | hi |
| 11:05.55 | Stanzilla | did my bnc just join or was I here all the time? |
| 11:06.05 | nevcairiel | you just joined |
| 11:06.09 | Stanzilla | mkay |
| 11:06.10 | wink | <-- Stanzilla (~Stan@bnc.nuti.me) has quit (Changing host) |
| 11:06.20 | nevcairiel | more importantly, [13:04:44] --> Stanzilla (~Stan@bnc.nuti.me) has joined #wowace |
| 11:06.22 | wink | and joined before |
| 11:06.44 | Stanzilla | guess freenode was wonky again, chat.freenode didn't work |
| 11:06.53 | wink | what's nuti.me supposed to mean? nutella.me would be better :P |
| 11:07.00 | nevcairiel | i got dced at around 8 or so this morning |
| 11:07.17 | Stanzilla | wink: it's the name of the hoster, nutime.de |
| 11:07.28 | Workfoz | huh |
| 11:07.37 | Workfoz | wink: new time |
| 11:07.43 | wink | pft |
| 11:07.46 | Workfoz | http://pages.ebay.co.uk/shoppingbasket/ exists |
| 11:07.50 | Workfoz | is that a UK only thing |
| 11:07.55 | Workfoz | Funkeh` EthanCentaurai ^ |
| 11:08.16 | nevcairiel | its a new thing |
| 11:08.27 | nevcairiel | Im Herbst 2014 können Käufer bei eBay den neuen Warenkorb nutzen. Damit wird es leichter, mehrere Artikel bei einem oder mehreren Verkäufern zu kaufen. |
| 11:08.34 | nevcairiel | do we have herbst already? |
| 11:08.36 | nevcairiel | .D |
| 11:08.58 | Workfoz | sadly, we don't |
| 11:09.06 | Workfoz | also, UK has had it since at least 2012 |
| 11:09.08 | nevcairiel | might have roled out in UK before it hits DE |
| 11:09.58 | wink | Stanzilla: still weird. website speaks of webhosting, there you are with a bnc ;) |
| 11:10.07 | wink | feels like the late 90s |
| 11:10.10 | wink | :) |
| 11:10.25 | Stanzilla | it's a friend's company, I have all teh shits hosted there |
| 11:10.28 | Stanzilla | bnc, web, ts |
| 11:13.08 | Stanzilla | oh lol, twitpic being bought right after they announce to shut down |
| 11:13.20 | Repo | legacy-quest: 03EthanCentaurai 07master * dc4636f QuestLogFrame.lua: [+1 commit] Fixed a bug that incorrectly marked some incomplete quests as complete. |
| 11:13.56 | EthanCentaurai | who by? |
| 11:14.15 | Workfoz | ridiculous: I can just use ebay.co.uk |
| 11:14.35 | Workfoz | probably a lot of legal red tape to cut through in Germany once again |
| 11:14.43 | Stanzilla | didn't tell |
| 11:15.57 | znf | weee |
| 11:16.00 | znf | killed lvl80 boss |
| 11:16.12 | Stanzilla | in clicker heroes? |
| 11:16.33 | wink | Stanzilla: ah ok :P |
| 11:18.10 | znf | Stanzilla, yes |
| 11:18.23 | Stanzilla | I'm on lvl 95 atm |
| 11:18.27 | sb | :( |
| 11:18.57 | Stanzilla | about to buy my first wind deity! |
| 11:19.49 | znf | I'm saving up for Athena |
| 11:19.53 | znf | 778q |
| 11:19.56 | znf | 7738q |
| 11:20.00 | znf | need 9000q |
| 11:20.18 | Stanzilla | I have 86 athenas |
| 11:20.45 | znf | :-/ |
| 11:27.44 | Megalon | mhm |
| 11:29.26 | Workfoz | :S wrote an email to the shop; even though I can use the basket just fine on ebay.co.uk, it won't let me request a postage total because it's international shipping >_> |
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| 11:29.34 | Megalon | just opened it up again and bought 2 athenas |
| 11:50.14 | Megalon | http://i.imgur.com/wlboJlj.jpg sb, nev, *foz :D |
| 11:50.35 | nevcairiel | hahaha |
| 11:50.51 | nevcairiel | because 140 chars are too much for the teenagers of today |
| 11:51.13 | haste | lol |
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| 12:04.59 | sb | znf: and yes, the duration part totally sucks |
| 12:05.21 | sb | no idea why they included "duration" in seconds but not "remaining" |
| 12:07.16 | nevcairiel | probably because they needed it |
| 12:08.18 | Workfoz | fun |
| 12:08.53 | Workfoz | I stayed at a B&B not 10 minutes away from the ebay shop in 2007 |
| 12:09.04 | Workfoz | (in Dundee) |
| 12:09.29 | Workfoz | that's Funkeh`land! |
| 12:09.39 | Workfoz | where IS Funkeh` from, anyway |
| 12:09.51 | nevcairiel | its not Funkeh`-land now, it still UK |
| 12:09.58 | Workfoz | hehe |
| 12:10.55 | Torhal | reformats Workfoz in English-grammar German. |
| 12:11.20 | Workfoz | that's... worse than the other way around |
| 12:11.42 | nevcairiel | way too many people do the other way around, tho |
| 12:12.14 | Workfoz | yeah |
| 12:12.15 | Workfoz | ^^ |
| 12:12.32 | Workfoz | isn't it a bit early for Torhals to be awake |
| 12:13.01 | Workfoz | wait, nevermind that, I totally forgot where you're actually from |
| 12:13.10 | Torhal | Heh |
| 12:13.19 | Workfoz | probably not the same TZ as LA |
| 12:13.28 | nevcairiel | anywhere in the US is pretty early tho |
| 12:13.53 | Workfoz | sure, but 7 am is just early, 5 am is nuts |
| 12:13.54 | Workfoz | ^^ |
| 12:14.26 | Torhal | I typically wake up at 8:30 on Fridays. Today was 6:30. |
| 12:14.42 | Torhal | sends znf on a mission, and asks that he mind his manners. |
| 12:15.20 | Workfoz | so znf is a follower of Torhal's? |
| 12:15.41 | Torhal | Probably not voluntarily. |
| 12:16.44 | Torhal | I wonder if Blizzard fixed zeppelins in WoD. Last I saw, when they disappear in the "distance" the NPCs start falling before fading away as well. |
| 12:16.53 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 12:17.29 | mitch0 | ;) |
| 12:17.31 | znf | sb: how is it in German? |
| 12:17.37 | sb | i dont know |
| 12:17.47 | sb | but cba to parse this, better find another way |
| 12:18.03 | znf | Torhal: can I steal half your code? |
| 12:18.20 | wink | you can have all the whitespaces |
| 12:18.30 | Torhal | Half? You measured? |
| 12:18.46 | znf | + / - 50% |
| 12:19.01 | Torhal | So possibly all or none? |
| 12:19.13 | sb | znf: stop caring about the ui - the real challenge is something else |
| 12:19.20 | znf | Not quite all :D |
| 12:19.21 | nevcairiel | sb: there is a global string for the format, GARRISON_DURATION_HOURS_MINUTES .. you can just deformat it and use for reverse matching |
| 12:20.07 | nevcairiel | although no guarantees the format doesnt change if its days instead of hours |
| 12:20.12 | nevcairiel | its probably not entirely accurate |
| 12:20.15 | sb | and to seconds |
| 12:20.26 | nevcairiel | seconds are not very important for your use-case tbh :P |
| 12:20.34 | sb | not, but for parsing |
| 12:20.41 | Stanzilla | what are you doing sb |
| 12:20.45 | Torhal | starts getting ready to head to the office. |
| 12:20.47 | znf | You can probably just regex the shit out of it |
| 12:20.56 | nevcairiel | there is also GARRISON_DURATION_DAYS_HOURS GARRISON_DURATION_SECONDS and whatnot |
| 12:21.22 | sb | yep |
| 12:21.27 | sb | so its 6 constants |
| 12:21.33 | sb | okay - have to think about it |
| 12:21.35 | znf | De formating sounds so complex :D |
| 12:21.52 | nevcairiel | its really just replacing %d with a capture group |
| 12:22.01 | znf | Hmm |
| 12:22.24 | znf | Well, you have time, sb :D |
| 12:22.26 | sb | and check for all of them (worst case) |
| 12:22.33 | Stanzilla | what are you doing sb |
| 12:22.41 | sb | Stanzilla: stealing znf ideas! |
| 12:22.43 | nevcairiel | we used to do loads of it with the old combat log, since parsing its strings was the only way to get the information |
| 12:22.53 | nevcairiel | but then we got a new combat log |
| 12:22.56 | sb | Stanzilla: garrison ldb display |
| 12:23.03 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 12:23.14 | znf | Stealing my Curse points :( |
| 12:23.17 | nevcairiel | of course you could just screw this all, and just record the time when you start the mission |
| 12:23.27 | znf | Yup |
| 12:23.34 | znf | But for the first run.. M |
| 12:24.22 | sb | nevcairiel: yup, thats what im thinking about |
| 12:24.47 | znf | On the event you will just record the start |
| 12:24.57 | znf | Erm, the duration |
| 12:25.02 | sb | no, everything |
| 12:25.10 | znf | And name |
| 12:25.12 | znf | And icon |
| 12:25.15 | znf | And type |
| 12:25.59 | znf | Not sure what args does the event trigger |
| 12:26.13 | znf | Didn't bother checking |
| 12:27.35 | znf | Probably missionID |
| 12:27.52 | nevcairiel | if anything at all |
| 12:27.58 | znf | Indeed |
| 12:28.18 | znf | I'll check when I get home |
| 12:28.50 | znf | Now I'm trying to reflash my car :D |
| 12:37.00 | znf | Does anyone know of a virtual port redirector that has a Linux daemon and a Windows client? |
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| 12:43.50 | Workfoz | ssh? |
| 12:43.53 | Workfoz | (what do you mean) |
| 12:50.26 | znf | Serial. Port |
| 12:50.39 | znf | Seriously SwiftKey has started to annoy me |
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| 12:52.05 | wink | http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/22545/how-to-connect-to-a-serial-port-as-simple-as-using-ssh hack something up? |
| 12:52.37 | wink | you only somehow need to expose your IO from serial to telnet or nc or something I'd say |
| 12:56.35 | SunTsu | znf: you're looking for ser2net |
| 13:06.32 | Workfoz | wink: well, I guess the Windows side might be the annoying one |
| 13:06.55 | Workfoz | sb: I think I'm going to switch to ANSI layout keyboard(s) |
| 13:07.14 | wink | Workfoz: that's why telnet |
| 13:07.16 | sb | ? |
| 13:07.29 | sb | Workfoz: so...? no idea what you are going to say :p |
| 13:07.57 | Workfoz | wink: the network client is easy, you can use nc on Windows, too... but how do you turn that back into a virtual com port ;) |
| 13:08.15 | Workfoz | wink: probably by using what SunTsu suggested already |
| 13:08.28 | Workfoz | sb: going to say? I already said what I said :D |
| 13:08.39 | sb | no idea what that menas :| |
| 13:08.42 | sb | means |
| 13:08.58 | Workfoz | sb: http://deskthority.net/wiki/ANSI_vs_ISO |
| 13:09.29 | sb | i dont even care |
| 13:09.47 | sb | corsair is ansi - so its ansi |
| 13:09.52 | sb | if it would be iso - it would be iso |
| 13:09.59 | Workfoz | uh, Corsair would be ISO if they sold it in Europe |
| 13:10.40 | sb | still - why should i care? takes 1-2 weeks are you are fine with whatever it is |
| 13:11.10 | Workfoz | gets annoying when you don't have control over all of the keyboards you're using |
| 13:11.14 | Workfoz | http://www.amazon.de/Corsair-Vengeance-K70-Tastatur-schwarz/dp/B00CJB8P0U/ (clearly ISO) |
| 13:11.34 | Workfoz | also, having used ISO for over 20 years might make switching a bit annoying |
| 13:11.36 | Kalroth | i got that one, it's pretty sexy |
| 13:11.37 | Kalroth | but loud |
| 13:11.48 | Workfoz | which switches, Kalroth |
| 13:11.58 | Kalroth | uhhh, red i think |
| 13:12.03 | Workfoz | I guess I'll grab a cheap US one to get used to it first... maybe |
| 13:12.24 | Workfoz | do you hit the keys all the way to the bottom |
| 13:12.36 | wink | Workfoz: not very annoying |
| 13:12.40 | Kalroth | i probably do, yea :P |
| 13:12.43 | wink | I switched last year I think |
| 13:12.48 | Workfoz | (you probably do, reds are very light + give no indication as to whether you've actuated the switch) |
| 13:12.51 | wink | at work: us intl, at home: de |
| 13:12.51 | Kalroth | i'm used to shitty keyboards |
| 13:12.56 | Kalroth | so i hammer them |
| 13:13.09 | Workfoz | wink: you switch between ANSI and ISO daily? :\ |
| 13:13.17 | znf | Yeah, the windows part is s tricky |
| 13:13.28 | znf | There's supposed to be a rfc for it |
| 13:13.42 | wink | Workfoz: yeah. my G10 is German and with windows it sucks. |
| 13:13.44 | Workfoz | Kalroth: you can use o-rings or soft-landing pads to counter that, if it's too annoying |
| 13:13.50 | znf | But I'm not coming up with info on cross-platform clients |
| 13:13.56 | Workfoz | wink: what do you mean "with windows it sucks"? :o |
| 13:13.58 | wink | the size of shift, etc |
| 13:14.08 | wink | on my US kbd I have shift, z x c |
| 13:14.20 | wink | and on German one it's shift < y xc |
| 13:14.21 | Workfoz | yeah, I know the difference between ansi and iso ^^ |
| 13:14.29 | wink | one mor key there |
| 13:14.34 | wink | I cant work around that :) |
| 13:14.38 | wink | it makes me furious |
| 13:14.42 | wink | so I stay with DE at home |
| 13:14.45 | Workfoz | of course you can |
| 13:14.48 | wink | with the DE keyboard |
| 13:14.57 | Workfoz | please stop referring to the key layout as DE/US :| |
| 13:15.08 | Kalroth | de-DE |
| 13:15.10 | wink | but it is! |
| 13:15.12 | Workfoz | you can use whatever layout in software |
| 13:15.14 | wink | ok, de-DE |
| 13:15.18 | Workfoz | no, that's not what I meant |
| 13:15.20 | Kalroth | haha |
| 13:15.33 | wink | and my linux one is a tweaked us-intl |
| 13:15.39 | sb | it was öäü on it, so its DE! :p |
| 13:15.42 | Workfoz | physical key layout: ANSI/ISO, software key layout: US/DE/Dvorak/whatever |
| 13:15.43 | wink | I can do ä ö ü Ã Æ Î» easily |
| 13:15.49 | Workfoz | wink: so do that on Windows, too? |
| 13:15.55 | Kalroth | arent there physical differences too? |
| 13:15.56 | Workfoz | you could turn the <>| key into shift if you want |
| 13:15.57 | wink | too complicated :( |
| 13:15.59 | Kalroth | or is that a thing of the past? |
| 13:16.03 | wink | xmodmap ftw |
| 13:16.13 | Workfoz | Kalroth: that's precisely why I'm trying to point out why using different terms matter? :D |
| 13:16.23 | Workfoz | wink: what's komplicated about MSKLC? (google it) |
| 13:16.35 | wink | Kalroth: if it has labels, I call it different :) |
| 13:16.42 | wink | can't work on azerty either |
| 13:16.49 | wink | even if it might be an ISO one |
| 13:16.55 | Workfoz | just take your keymap with you |
| 13:17.06 | wink | Workfoz: will do, for now I use KeyTweak |
| 13:17.07 | Workfoz | (need a different word than "keyboard layout" for the software one) |
| 13:17.18 | wink | keyboard mapping |
| 13:17.20 | Workfoz | I guess key map works |
| 13:17.52 | Workfoz | only thing I'm uncertain of is if ANSI keyboards send a different scancode for L/R alt |
| 13:17.55 | wink | still, I'd trade my de_DE G10 against an ANSI one any day |
| 13:18.06 | Workfoz | otherwise turning R-Alt into AltGr would be impossible |
| 13:18.09 | wink | although my wife would probably kill me then if she has to type on it again |
| 13:18.28 | Workfoz | get your wife her own keyboard like a proper geek |
| 13:18.49 | wink | I meant: when, sparely, she checks mail on my machine or something |
| 13:18.54 | Workfoz | white, colourful, with legends on the keycaps... you: blank black |
| 13:19.08 | wink | she has some cherry whatever, where she likes the pressure |
| 13:19.10 | Workfoz | it's not like you can't attach 5 keyboards to a computer :D |
| 13:19.24 | wink | why would I do that? it's a once-a-month thing |
| 13:19.27 | Workfoz | get her a Poker 2 |
| 13:19.36 | wink | there is a poker2? |
| 13:19.36 | wink | WHERE |
| 13:19.40 | Workfoz | for fun, because you can, because why nto |
| 13:19.45 | Kalroth | labels are only for wankers that needs to look at their keyboard |
| 13:19.48 | wink | no, stop. I have enough nopoo chocs |
| 13:19.52 | Kalroth | i mean additional keys or missing keys |
| 13:19.55 | wink | no more keyboard buyinh |
| 13:19.58 | Workfoz | everywhere, probably |
| 13:20.24 | Workfoz | http://www.mechkb.com/vortex-kbc-poker-ii |
| 13:20.42 | Workfoz | I don't think I could deal with anything than a 100% kb |
| 13:21.09 | wink | I use a choc midi now |
| 13:21.09 | wink | at work |
| 13:21.12 | wink | used to be a choc mini |
| 13:21.24 | Workfoz | 87? |
| 13:21.39 | wink | 87 what? |
| 13:21.45 | wink | it's tenkeyless |
| 13:21.55 | Workfoz | 87 keys |
| 13:22.00 | Workfoz | I only see "mini" and "pro" |
| 13:22.29 | Workfoz | oh, 84 |
| 13:22.47 | wink | 16 14 14 13 12 8 6 4 |
| 13:22.51 | wink | sum up yourself |
| 13:22.53 | nevcairiel | 84 is a odd number |
| 13:23.02 | Kalroth | ffff, o-rings are like 20 eur here |
| 13:23.06 | nevcairiel | its usually 87 in ansi or 88 in iso |
| 13:23.14 | Repo | team-equip-compare (experimental): 03mogluk * r13 TeamEquipCompare.toc: Updated interface version |
| 13:23.14 | wink | so, seems to be 87 |
| 13:24.05 | wink | Workfoz: http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k574/12378467823462783946237846237849623781423784162378/noppoo/DSC04482.jpg upper one |
| 13:24.10 | wink | err lower one |
| 13:24.19 | wink | that's a choc midi |
| 13:24.31 | wink | or if it's not, it's damn close |
| 13:24.35 | nevcairiel | yeah thats pretty normal ansi tenkeyless layout |
| 13:24.51 | wink | I <3 |
| 13:25.03 | nevcairiel | either the image sucks balls or the keyboard has very weird key labels tho |
| 13:25.09 | wink | mine has normal white ones |
| 13:25.19 | wink | or light light cyan |
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| 13:27.55 | Workfoz | Kalroth: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/METRIC-NITRILE-RUBBER-O-RINGS-1-5MM-CROSS-SECTION-2MM-ID-19MM-ID-/321262060265 5.30 GBP |
| 13:28.06 | Workfoz | (for cherry stems, probably 5 MM inner diameter) |
| 13:28.32 | Workfoz | also, there's other diameter cross-section variants, not sure if 1, 1.5, 2 mm is better |
| 13:28.34 | Workfoz | etc |
| 13:28.36 | Workfoz | lots of choice ;) |
| 13:28.45 | Kalroth | ffff, pack size is 100 or 250 :P |
| 13:28.59 | Kalroth | then i have to mix it to save 2 quid! |
| 13:29.06 | nevcairiel | 100 seems fine |
| 13:29.12 | Workfoz | nevcairiel: that looks like straight engraved ones (i.e. no paint) |
| 13:29.27 | nevcairiel | looks terrible on the picture at least |
| 13:29.30 | nevcairiel | cant judge for real life |
| 13:29.31 | Workfoz | 100 is a little too little, since some keys need more than one |
| 13:29.46 | Workfoz | but since I grabbed 3 different diameters anyway, I have more than enough ;p |
| 13:30.00 | Workfoz | I can't speak to how well nitrile is suited for this, though |
| 13:30.05 | nevcairiel | i just dont obsess about my keyboard, and spent thousands of euros on a new pc instead |
| 13:30.12 | Workfoz | most other rings are made of either EPDM or silicone |
| 13:30.20 | Workfoz | nevcairiel: valid |
| 13:30.40 | nevcairiel | i might get one of those rgb things though once they are widely available in DE with brown switches |
| 13:30.53 | SunTsu | Workfoz: are you going to write a guide of some sort? "An obsessive geek's guide to choosing a keyboard", or something like that? :> |
| 13:31.10 | Workfoz | SunTsu: going to? I already am... |
| 13:31.13 | Workfoz | ~logs |
| 13:31.13 | purl | All conversations are logged to http://purl.rikers.org/%23wowace/ Lines starting with spaces are not logged. Logs are updated daily. |
| 13:31.13 | nevcairiel | he doesnt just choose a keyboard, he practically assembles it himself |
| 13:31.21 | Kalroth | he's german, of course he's going with das keyboard! |
| 13:31.30 | Workfoz | Kalroth: I already HAVE Das Keyboard |
| 13:31.33 | Kalroth | o |
| 13:31.35 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 13:31.45 | nevcairiel | i logged out of wow with a 5 minute disease on me, and i log back in, dead |
| 13:31.46 | Workfoz | (Das Keyboard 2, though. Pretty old, and not that great) |
| 13:31.47 | SunTsu | Kalroth: actually I'm going to buy Das Keyboard as soon as I need to replace one |
| 13:31.49 | nevcairiel | stupid disease |
| 13:32.03 | Kalroth | l2p issue, nev |
| 13:32.04 | Workfoz | Das Keyboard 2 has PCB mounted MX blue switches |
| 13:32.17 | Workfoz | whereas most gaming/better/modern mechanical keyboards use plate-mounted switches |
| 13:32.24 | Workfoz | for more stability and less annoying sound when typing |
| 13:32.28 | Workfoz | less rattling |
| 13:32.32 | nevcairiel | das keyboard is extremely loud, tbh |
| 13:32.39 | Workfoz | which one, though |
| 13:32.50 | nevcairiel | i have the first one, i think |
| 13:33.00 | nevcairiel | and its much louder than other mechanical keyboards, no matter the switch type |
| 13:33.11 | Workfoz | DK 1 isn't even mech, DK 2 is what I have and yeah it's not nice, DK 3 and 4 I can't speak to, but at least they are comparable to other "gaming" keyboards, since they have plate-mounted switches |
| 13:33.20 | nevcairiel | then its 2 |
| 13:33.23 | nevcairiel | i dunno |
| 13:33.26 | nevcairiel | its mechanical at least |
| 13:33.41 | Workfoz | does it say "Das Keyboard" in a crappy sans-serif font in the top left |
| 13:33.43 | SunTsu | nevcairiel: I don't think that it's much louder than my standard Cherry G80-3k keyboard. I had a girlfriend once who said that she only would sleep well when she heard me typing next door |
| 13:34.05 | nevcairiel | Workfoz: dunno how you define crappy, but it does say that |
| 13:34.07 | Workfoz | nevcairiel: like this http://www.cherry.de/pictures/produkt/gal_2000_G8x-3000_2_Aufs.jpg but text upper left corner |
| 13:34.24 | nevcairiel | the keyboard doesnt look like its from 1970, no |
| 13:34.39 | Workfoz | it doesn't? |
| 13:34.42 | Workfoz | is it super shiny |
| 13:34.47 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 13:34.52 | Workfoz | then it's das keyboard 3 |
| 13:35.11 | nevcairiel | its even a professional, which was supposedly meant to be a bit more silent |
| 13:35.15 | nevcairiel | but its still damn loud |
| 13:35.15 | Kalroth | zwei |
| 13:35.40 | Workfoz | yeah, they didn't even have that professional/elite/whatever distinction before 3 |
| 13:35.42 | nevcairiel | yeah it looks like the 4, without the media buttons |
| 13:35.42 | Workfoz | Kalroth: indeed |
| 13:35.47 | nevcairiel | so 3 it must be |
| 13:35.54 | Workfoz | you rhyming bastard |
| 13:35.58 | Kalroth | :P |
| 13:36.07 | Workfoz | man I'm hungry |
| 13:36.13 | Workfoz | so late :F |
| 13:36.26 | Kalroth | it's almost October-fest time! |
| 13:36.28 | nevcairiel | i'm still kinda full from the half-lasagna i ate yesterday |
| 13:36.46 | Kalroth | sweet nourishing beer |
| 13:37.30 | nevcairiel | do you know that feeling when you eat something so tasty, and even when you're done with your first serving and you feel full, you still get seconds because it just tastes so good |
| 13:37.51 | Kalroth | letting the eyes decide when you're full |
| 13:38.32 | Workfoz | or just deciding not to be full |
| 13:38.36 | Workfoz | then feeling horrible for hours after |
| 13:38.39 | Workfoz | but yes |
| 13:38.40 | nevcairiel | indeed |
| 13:38.41 | Workfoz | all the time :p |
| 13:39.34 | Workfoz | so... since I doubt I'm going to buy two RGB keyboards (and why would I want one at work)... which one shall I get for the office :D |
| 13:39.53 | Workfoz | I literally just made the problem worse by deciding to switch to ANSI layout |
| 13:39.59 | Workfoz | now I need two keyboards xD |
| 13:40.02 | nevcairiel | set it to constant light flashyness when youre away from the desk to annoy your coworkers |
| 13:40.08 | Workfoz | harrr yes |
| 13:40.17 | Workfoz | I could make it spell out "STAY OFF" |
| 13:40.19 | nevcairiel | i'll gladly stick to iso layout |
| 13:40.44 | nevcairiel | i dont have any problems with it, so why bother |
| 13:40.50 | Workfoz | I would, too, but it's annoying when you're trying to get into keyboard customization things and everywhere it's "sorry, no ISO" |
| 13:41.02 | nevcairiel | tell the americans to gtfo |
| 13:41.13 | nevcairiel | get with the program man, europe is here to stay! |
| 13:41.24 | Workfoz | my pinky definitely rests in the upper part of our nice, big enter key, so there'll probably be lots of erroneous \\\s in my future |
| 13:41.47 | nevcairiel | that happened to me so often when i used a US keyboard for a while |
| 13:42.01 | Workfoz | or worse, enter when I want \ |
| 13:42.13 | Workfoz | because they basically trade places if you're used to hitting enter at the top |
| 13:42.57 | Workfoz | hm, our DB vendor has a "name our 'beast'" competition |
| 13:43.32 | Kalroth | name it "drop database sys;" |
| 13:43.35 | Workfoz | (their DB setup they used to "smash" the TPC-H benchmarks again this year) |
| 13:43.39 | Kalroth | free injection check |
| 13:43.57 | Workfoz | what DBMS has a "sys" database? |
| 13:44.36 | Kalroth | i dunno, replace it with your favorite DBM! |
| 13:45.05 | Kalroth | master is good on MS SQL |
| 13:45.10 | Workfoz | so at least now I only have to wait until the k70 rgb with other switches than red shows up in the US |
| 13:45.41 | Workfoz | (and for the beginning I'll probably stick with the stock keycaps... could get fully transparent ones later for MAXIMUM FLASHY) |
| 13:46.01 | sb | ugh... really? |
| 13:46.26 | Workfoz | hm? |
| 13:46.28 | nevcairiel | transparent seems crazy |
| 13:46.30 | Workfoz | hah, could turn the backlight red when in a root shell/sysdba db session/sys db session |
| 13:46.35 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 13:46.53 | Workfoz | yeah, but programmable rgb backlit keyboard doesn't already scream "crazy" loud enough? ;p |
| 13:47.00 | mitch0 | erm, I almost never look at the keyboard anyway |
| 13:47.12 | Workfoz | it's still in your FoV regardless |
| 13:47.16 | mitch0 | guess I'm not the target audience |
| 13:47.22 | Kalroth | thats what bugged me most about the logitech keyboard with LCD display |
| 13:47.27 | nevcairiel | well you still see it at the edge of your vision, it if blinks red, you'll notice |
| 13:47.27 | Kalroth | i never look down on it |
| 13:47.39 | Workfoz | the target audience for backlit keyboards is probably not the person actually typing on the keyboard at that moment |
| 13:48.04 | Workfoz | the target audience would seem to be... literally the audience |
| 13:48.05 | nevcairiel | i like having a b acklit keyboard |
| 13:48.34 | Kalroth | i got a table lamp |
| 13:48.42 | nevcairiel | when i sit down at night i sometimes have problems finding my resting spot :D |
| 13:48.47 | Kalroth | haha |
| 13:49.02 | Workfoz | no room lights at all? |
| 13:49.14 | nevcairiel | it happens |
| 13:50.16 | nevcairiel | i feel like i forgot something for my new pc |
| 13:50.36 | Kalroth | it happens to me a lot, i'm like "just one more turn in civ" |
| 13:50.38 | Workfoz | I should switch more of my online-ordering stuff over to gmail... I did so before ordering those o-rings on ebay, now I get nice Google Now cards |
| 13:50.40 | Kalroth | and then it's dark outside |
| 13:50.50 | sb | Workfoz: fu :( |
| 13:50.57 | Workfoz | sb: eh? |
| 13:51.00 | nevcairiel | sb isnt very wordy today |
| 13:51.09 | Workfoz | he's probably using google apps |
| 13:51.09 | sb | no gmail cards in google apps |
| 13:51.13 | nevcairiel | hah |
| 13:51.19 | Workfoz | that's why I won't use that for my email |
| 13:52.46 | nevcairiel | hey we wiped in ToT2 LFR on trash |
| 13:53.18 | Workfoz | I might have linked this already, but when you mentioned assembling the keyboard myself, I was reminded that this exists http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/mechanical-keyboard/wasd-v2-104-key-barebones-mechanical-keyboard.html |
| 13:53.24 | Workfoz | good thing, really, nobody else offers that |
| 13:54.34 | Workfoz | good enough for work, certainly, and can do stupid stuff like http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/5190/img3696anyus1.jpg |
| 13:56.57 | Stanzilla | @MKBHD: Are security guards at Samsung stores called... Guardians of the Galaxy? |
| 13:56.58 | Stanzilla | hahahaha |
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| 14:05.01 | nevcairiel | when you setup a noodle cart, can you buy noodles from yourself? :p |
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| 14:07.12 | silentium | https://twitter.com/JadedcatWylde/status/512651103498797056 destroyed iphones in 3... 2... 1... |
| 14:07.36 | sb | nevcairiel: yes |
| 14:07.53 | nevcairiel | haha silentium |
| 14:09.31 | Workfoz | nevcairiel: yep, and you get the buff automatically, so you don't end up having 1 less food than everyone else |
| 14:10.14 | nevcairiel | i've been wondering if its worth setting up some stat foods for leveling, but probably wont matter |
| 14:10.31 | Workfoz | min/max ftw |
| 14:10.37 | Workfoz | can't hurt to have a stack or two |
| 14:10.47 | Workfoz | provided you don't die, that means 20/40 hours of buff |
| 14:10.49 | nevcairiel | i have like 5 stacks of feasts |
| 14:10.58 | nevcairiel | from skilling <.< |
| 14:11.01 | Workfoz | how much content is there anyway |
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| 14:11.50 | Workfoz | I need to get on beta and level once |
| 14:11.56 | nevcairiel | i decided not to |
| 14:12.05 | nevcairiel | only did the first zone once |
| 14:13.05 | nevcairiel | extrapolating from that, i would say there is a good 24 hours of content if you dont rush it wildly |
| 14:14.38 | Workfoz | I'm rushing it wildly |
| 14:14.40 | Workfoz | ;p |
| 14:14.42 | Workfoz | of course! |
| 14:14.48 | nevcairiel | but why |
| 14:14.51 | nevcairiel | so many weeks until raids |
| 14:14.57 | nevcairiel | plenty time to do everything |
| 14:15.03 | Workfoz | how many? |
| 14:15.10 | nevcairiel | 3 i think? |
| 14:15.12 | Stanzilla | 2.5 |
| 14:15.14 | Workfoz | aren't the crap raids open like 1 week after launch |
| 14:15.18 | nevcairiel | nope |
| 14:15.21 | Stanzilla | 2.5 |
| 14:15.35 | Workfoz | well |
| 14:15.35 | sb | doesnt matter - its fun to do |
| 14:15.38 | Workfoz | yeah. |
| 14:15.40 | Workfoz | that^ |
| 14:15.54 | nevcairiel | 2.5? launch is on wednesday, raid resets on wednesday, how do you get a .5 |
| 14:15.59 | Workfoz | launch is not on wed |
| 14:16.03 | nevcairiel | eh, thurs |
| 14:16.04 | nevcairiel | still! |
| 14:16.06 | sb | still sorting out how i can do this ikea hotdog stuff :| |
| 14:16.14 | Workfoz | it's more like .85 then ;) |
| 14:16.19 | Workfoz | haha |
| 14:16.21 | Stanzilla | ye |
| 14:16.29 | Workfoz | do you have dates handy |
| 14:16.33 | Workfoz | or do I need to look at a calendar |
| 14:16.43 | Stanzilla | dez 2 |
| 14:16.45 | nevcairiel | anyhow, i'll enjoy the content and the story! there! |
| 14:17.02 | Workfoz | dez 3 |
| 14:17.05 | Workfoz | k |
| 14:17.59 | Stanzilla | casual++ |
| 14:18.31 | nevcairiel | even if youre still a progress raider, there is no huge reason to rush everything with these 2.85 weeks |
| 14:18.43 | nevcairiel | for what, one more day of CM for a lfr item chance ?:P |
| 14:18.57 | Stanzilla | no, alts |
| 14:19.09 | Workfoz | bah no thanks on alts |
| 14:19.25 | Fisker | How the hell does this shit bypass the fact I muted all audio |
| 14:19.26 | Workfoz | nevcairiel: it's simply fun to try and be as quick as possible |
| 14:19.27 | Stanzilla | progress raids will do 3-5 heroic clears first week |
| 14:19.48 | Workfoz | as has become usual, yeah |
| 14:20.15 | Workfoz | loot funneling gets even worse with flex |
| 14:20.17 | Workfoz | or well, easier |
| 14:20.31 | Workfoz | wait no |
| 14:20.35 | Stanzilla | and mythic being a different lockout |
| 14:20.38 | Workfoz | never mind, loot is personal in normal/hc |
| 14:20.45 | Workfoz | is normal/hc also two lockouts |
| 14:20.47 | nevcairiel | you can configure t hat, i though |
| 14:20.47 | Workfoz | (I think so?) |
| 14:20.50 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 14:20.57 | Workfoz | configure what? |
| 14:21.00 | nevcairiel | raid lead can tell if personal loot or shared |
| 14:21.04 | Workfoz | really |
| 14:21.05 | nevcairiel | afaik? |
| 14:21.06 | Workfoz | interesting |
| 14:21.14 | Workfoz | also lol, I learned something in our test raid |
| 14:21.45 | Workfoz | I always thought the "request roll" feature when you have master loot enabled was a feature of some addon of mine, that does a chat message to ask people to roll manually |
| 14:21.46 | nevcairiel | never too late to learn! |
| 14:22.09 | Workfoz | I wasn't aware Blizzard put in something labeled exactly the same but way better functionality |
| 14:22.17 | nevcairiel | what does it do? |
| 14:22.27 | nevcairiel | i havent done any ML raid for ages |
| 14:22.27 | Workfoz | pops up the regular roll window |
| 14:22.42 | Workfoz | and the master looter can then assign afterwards |
| 14:22.44 | Stanzilla | so if noone wants it |
| 14:22.50 | Stanzilla | everyone can roll |
| 14:23.18 | Workfoz | sure, but they used it as the primary distribution method |
| 14:23.32 | Workfoz | for half of the raid I thought we were on simple roll loot |
| 14:23.48 | Workfoz | until someone asked about an item specifically |
| 14:24.02 | Workfoz | and I'm like "how can you assign loot even though we're rolling" oO |
| 14:24.13 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 14:24.22 | Stanzilla | I hope you didnt say that in ts :D |
| 14:24.29 | nevcairiel | controlled rolling |
| 14:24.32 | Workfoz | obviously I did |
| 14:24.35 | Workfoz | and why not |
| 14:24.43 | nevcairiel | i wouldnt have known either |
| 14:24.43 | Workfoz | we play with rolling ever since we went 10 man |
| 14:25.20 | Workfoz | it's a coincidence that we got rid of the need for the addon we used for loot distribution at the same time as Blizzard put this in |
| 14:25.24 | Workfoz | (Cata) |
| 14:25.46 | Workfoz | still on DKP (and 25 man) in WotLK, no more need for MagicDKP and MagicLoot and whatnot afterwards, so I never noticed |
| 14:26.13 | Workfoz | works well, doesn't require people to roll in chat, or need an addon, but still maintains ultimate control |
| 14:26.38 | Workfoz | only thing that's a bit annoying is that you have to do the "request roll" thing for every item, but that should be more than easily automatable |
| 14:27.01 | Stanzilla | we're on normal roll since ages |
| 14:27.05 | Workfoz | ye |
| 14:27.06 | Stanzilla | only had 2 incidents so far |
| 14:27.14 | Workfoz | yeah, similar |
| 14:27.26 | nevcairiel | that works out in 25? |
| 14:27.27 | Stanzilla | oh wait, we had the occasional disenchant rollts |
| 14:27.31 | Stanzilla | where people had to ticket |
| 14:27.43 | Stanzilla | yeah nevcairiel |
| 14:27.51 | Workfoz | and if we want to overrule that and someone doesn't comply, well... we don't want them around anyway |
| 14:29.15 | Stanzilla | we lost one invincible that way |
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| 14:32.43 | Workfoz | both our ashes of al'ar went to people who didn't play for very much longer afterwards ^^ |
| 14:36.13 | nevcairiel | i dont think we ever had one |
| 14:40.23 | nevcairiel | only one of the shops shipped already, so much for hoping to get it tomorrow already :D |
| 14:43.20 | sb | PC? |
| 14:43.30 | nevcairiel | yes |
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| 14:56.12 | Stanzilla | . |
| 14:56.16 | Stanzilla | freenode ded again? |
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| 14:58.15 | Cloudfoz | looks like it |
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| 15:02.57 | Stanzilla | which server do you guys connect to? |
| 15:04.05 | Fisker | chat.freenode.net |
| 15:04.05 | Fisker | :3 |
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| 15:05.53 | znf | Well, that didn't work out |
| 15:05.57 | Stanzilla | I'm on wilhelm.fn.net |
| 15:06.15 | znf | I got both ecu out, guess I'll reprogram both... |
| 15:07.08 | Cloudfoz | srsly |
| 15:07.12 | Cloudfoz | should have left on time |
| 15:07.19 | Cloudfoz | just started raining >_> |
| 15:07.56 | pompy | http://online.wsj.com/articles/larry-ellison-to-step-aside-as-oracle-ceo-1411070636 |
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| 15:27.44 | znf | Stanzilla, I'm on cameron.freenode.net |
| 15:28.57 | znf | also, you people are bad :P |
| 15:29.02 | znf | how did you not know the request roll? :D |
| 15:29.05 | znf | been there since 5.0 |
| 15:29.13 | znf | and it's awesome ^^ |
| 15:29.34 | nevcairiel | he already explained how they switched to normal rolling in cataclysm :P |
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| 15:31.30 | znf | I use it in our normal raids |
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| 15:31.33 | znf | we bid for main-spec |
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| 15:31.58 | znf | if nobody else wants it, I roll for it |
| 15:31.58 | znf | (for offspecs) |
| 15:32.11 | Semlar | rolls for znf |
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| 15:32.24 | Megalon | specs off znf |
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| 15:32.35 | znf | reprograms Megalon's ECU |
| 15:32.41 | znf | now your engine doesn't start anymore! |
| 15:32.57 | nevcairiel | if you want to break his engine, there are easier ways |
| 15:33.23 | wink | it's EUR, not ECU |
| 15:33.53 | znf | EUR? |
| 15:34.18 | silentium | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EUR |
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| 15:34.46 | znf | ... |
| 15:34.54 | znf | why would I reprogram Megalon's � |
| 15:35.38 | Megalon | don't know? gypsy stuffs? |
| 15:35.42 | silentium | because the euro replaced the ECU |
| 15:36.43 | znf | that's such an inside joke, silentium |
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| 15:39.03 | znf | it's quite shitty that not all heroes have an ultimate to unlock in Click Heroes |
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| 15:45.06 | EthanCentaurai | Pizza night! \o/ |
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| 15:50.22 | znf | <nihasa> A charity basketball game didnât go exactly as planned yesterday when Kanye West scored 106 points against a team of handicapped children in wheelchairs. |
| 15:50.24 | znf | shit |
| 15:50.31 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/ld8dSkT.png |
| 15:50.37 | znf | why would you restart from 0? :-| |
| 15:51.12 | Megalon | why would you reset cookieclicker :p |
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| 15:51.59 | znf | I don't know? |
| 15:52.28 | Stanzilla | resetting gives a bonus ofc |
| 15:53.25 | Megalon | you buy stuff with hero souls |
| 15:54.12 | znf | sounds simpler to get souls from the other sources |
| 15:57.33 | znf | oh, it's talk like a pirate day |
| 15:57.39 | znf | was wondering what's up with reddit |
| 16:00.37 | EthanCentaurai | Megarrrrlon |
| 16:00.41 | EthanCentaurai | Stanzillaarrrrr |
| 16:00.46 | EthanCentaurai | ok i'm done |
| 16:01.37 | znf | Torhal, can I borrow your code? ^^ |
| 16:01.59 | Torhal | No point if you don't have data to put int oit. |
| 16:02.09 | Torhal | s/int oit/into it/ |
| 16:03.08 | znf | Torhal, uhm, I will... |
| 16:04.49 | znf | eh, that's ok :P |
| 16:04.56 | Torhal | Hehe |
| 16:05.04 | Torhal | I mean, if you can figure it out sure. |
| 16:05.26 | znf | what do you mean if I can figure it out? Your code is damn readable O.O |
| 16:05.34 | znf | it's like doing 3 to 5 years lego! |
| 16:05.40 | Torhal | I mean parsing the Mission data |
| 16:05.54 | znf | that's easy |
| 16:18.37 | znf | https://i.imgur.com/ogiXW4Y.jpg |
| 16:18.42 | znf | This guy was a high roller |
| 16:19.07 | Megalon | mhm? |
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| 16:24.23 | znf | Megalon, check his gold |
| 16:24.25 | znf | that's from vanilla |
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| 16:27.33 | nevcairiel | you're making fun of a guy because he has 7 gold? |
| 16:27.42 | nevcairiel | thats so rude |
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| 16:36.16 | znf | nevcairiel, I'm not |
| 16:36.24 | znf | vanilla! almost 8 gold! |
| 16:36.29 | znf | wasn't that like shitloads back then? |
| 16:36.35 | nevcairiel | that was basically nothing back then and you know it |
| 16:36.44 | nevcairiel | an epic mount still cost 1000 gold |
| 16:40.40 | quiescens | silly znf |
| 16:45.11 | znf | I didn't play back then |
| 16:46.29 | Gnarfoz | sb: Fritz labor firmware is annoying, no changelogs for the daily updates |
| 16:48.31 | nevcairiel | any reason you're running labor? |
| 16:48.52 | Gnarfoz | nope |
| 16:48.55 | Stanzilla | because it works |
| 16:48.56 | Stanzilla | get it? |
| 16:48.57 | Stanzilla | labor? |
| 16:49.01 | Gnarfoz | hur dur |
| 16:49.17 | Gnarfoz | I guess NEU - Verbesserte Interoperabilität für VDSL2-Vectoring der Deutschen Telekom is worth it |
| 16:49.20 | nevcairiel | you must've had a reason to flash it at one point =p |
| 16:49.21 | Gnarfoz | even though it worked before, too |
| 16:49.27 | nevcairiel | thats in the 4.20 release too |
| 16:49.32 | Gnarfoz | there is no 4.20 release |
| 16:49.40 | nevcairiel | is for my box |
| 16:49.43 | Gnarfoz | 6, btw |
| 16:49.44 | Gnarfoz | not 4 |
| 16:49.47 | nevcairiel | whatever |
| 16:50.01 | Gnarfoz | yeah, highest end 500⬠boxes get shit first ^^ |
| 16:50.04 | nevcairiel | still got 06.20 release just this week |
| 16:50.08 | nevcairiel | its a 7390, yea |
| 16:50.12 | Gnarfoz | this is the 49â¬/free 1&1 one |
| 16:50.17 | nevcairiel | and its only like $200 |
| 16:50.20 | nevcairiel | â¬200 i mean |
| 16:50.27 | Gnarfoz | 7362 SL |
| 16:50.40 | Gnarfoz | anyway, it's 6.10-28509 |
| 16:50.51 | quiescens | moo |
| 16:51.07 | Gnarfoz | not sure if they label the "pre next release" as "current release-buildnumber" |
| 16:51.15 | Gnarfoz | or if 6.10 is going to be the next stable for mine |
| 16:51.58 | znf | I hate tapatalk so much |
| 16:52.09 | quiescens | why |
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| 16:52.57 | Gnarfoz | I guess 6.03 is stable |
| 16:53.07 | nevcairiel | i think thats what i updated from |
| 16:53.13 | znf | quiescens: it's a lazy and crappy way to make a forum mobile |
| 16:53.35 | znf | Also in the same category, the Vbulletin mobile app |
| 16:53.53 | znf | That every forum you end up visiting on your phone asks you about |
| 16:54.28 | nevcairiel | never seent hat |
| 16:54.34 | nevcairiel | i get tapatalk everywhere tho |
| 16:58.19 | quiescens | iuno |
| 16:58.21 | quiescens | o.o |
| 17:01.37 | Megalon | iuno? apple does uno too now? |
| 17:12.11 | Gnarfoz | Windows 3.11 wants its installers back https://mediacru.sh/rx9MRUFOJn4a |
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| 17:13.32 | Repo | legacy-quest: 03EthanCentaurai 07master * 5b8b425 (3 files in 1 directory): [+3 commits] |
| 17:13.32 | Repo | 5b8b425: Removed duplicate templates. |
| 17:13.33 | Repo | 54525ae: Update README. |
| 17:13.33 | Repo | 2cee7f4: Add .toc data. |
| 17:18.34 | Repo | legacy-quest: 03EthanCentaurai 04v0.1-beta * a6b9b23 /: [new tag] Tagging as v0.1-beta |
| 17:26.08 | nevcairiel | so its no longer full of bloat EthanCentaurai? |
| 17:29.08 | EthanCentaurai | not as much as before, at least :D |
| 17:29.19 | EthanCentaurai | it's no longer overwriting stuff |
| 17:29.30 | nevcairiel | i think i'll stick to the default quest log though, i didnt mind it in the beta |
| 17:30.15 | EthanCentaurai | fine by me |
| 17:33.46 | nevcairiel | do you hide the default stuff, or do you just duplicate? |
| 17:34.08 | EthanCentaurai | duplicate, the default log is still accessible from the small worldmap |
| 17:35.04 | quiescens | are you trying to take over teh world again |
| 17:35.16 | EthanCentaurai | who told you? >_> |
| 17:35.35 | quiescens | spais |
| 17:35.46 | EthanCentaurai | looks for his tinfoil hat. |
| 17:36.22 | znf | >RJ-45 ends are not "network seeds" and should not be scattered under floor tiles in an effort to cultivate a server farm. |
| 17:36.23 | znf | lol |
| 17:36.30 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 17:36.39 | EthanCentaurai | lol |
| 17:37.05 | EthanCentaurai | people are dumb enough to try that? :D |
| 17:37.17 | nevcairiel | someone was probably just lazy |
| 17:37.29 | znf | https://np.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/2gt7x5/just_sysadmin_things_for_which_ive_been |
| 17:38.09 | znf | >Setting up an autoresponder on the support email address to respond with a google search of the subject line is not considered company policy. |
| 17:38.10 | znf | lol |
| 17:43.28 | EthanCentaurai | that is brilliant |
| 17:43.55 | nevcairiel | > The server lab is not to be used for LAN parties after hours. |
| 17:43.56 | nevcairiel | boo |
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| 18:03.24 | znf | >Employees are not to "overclock" the coffee machines. |
| 18:03.24 | znf | wat |
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| 18:11.59 | Repo | cooldownbuttons: 03Netrox 07master * 3.1.1-3-gceb457c (2 files in 1 directory): [+3 commits] |
| 18:12.00 | Repo | ceb457c: update cooldown sets for potions, healing potions are now on thier own cooldown |
| 18:12.00 | Repo | 20ecd47: update spell cooldown sets |
| 18:12.00 | Repo | 1f462b1: Update Toc |
| 18:18.18 | znf | >Two by fours are no longer allowed in employee offices, nor are sticks, or any other objects that could be deemed a 'clue by four' or a 'clue stick'. |
| 18:18.21 | znf | what's a "two by four"? |
| 18:19.55 | Gnarfoz | 2" by 4" piece of wood (or other material, possibly) |
| 18:19.58 | nebula169 | lumber, yea |
| 18:20.15 | Gnarfoz | https://fasab.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/2-by-4.jpg |
| 18:22.25 | nevcairiel | you have been on the internet so long, and you dont know whats a two by four? |
| 18:22.47 | nevcairiel | also known as clue by four |
| 18:23.02 | nevcairiel | to whack clueless people with |
| 18:26.46 | znf | nope, never heard of that expression used like taht |
| 18:27.44 | Gnarfoz | 'murica |
| 18:30.29 | nevcairiel | i'm bored |
| 18:30.35 | nevcairiel | i think i'll watch a movie or somethin |
| 18:33.16 | znf | >Removing memory from support's computers under the pretence of upgrading them is not 'essential maintenance'. |
| 18:36.07 | znf | >Switching the covers on the fax machine and shredder is not 'hilarious'. |
| 18:36.10 | znf | I laughed |
| 18:40.13 | Gnarfoz | CrystalDiskInfo/CrystalDiskMark is SO japanese |
| 18:46.42 | znf | >Replying to the CEO's Quarterly Update to all employees with the word Unsubscribe is not acceptable. |
| 18:46.43 | znf | =))) |
| 18:47.20 | Stanzilla | http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/15951562/final-phase-of-technical-alpha-coming-9-19-2014 |
| 18:48.18 | chosi | ded gaem |
| 18:49.25 | znf | wait |
| 18:49.33 | znf | people actually spend REAL money on ALPHAS? |
| 18:49.34 | znf | wtf? |
| 18:51.05 | chosi | i think it's being converted to some sort of ingame credit after? |
| 18:51.08 | chosi | like hearthstone |
| 18:51.12 | chosi | but not sure |
| 18:51.42 | Stanzilla | correct |
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| 19:03.12 | znf | b.net balance actually |
| 19:03.15 | znf | but, still... |
| 19:17.52 | Gnarfoz | zomg my HDDs are slow |
| 19:21.56 | znf | Is there any point in upgrading Click? :-/ |
| 19:25.15 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 19:28.11 | znf | at what point does it actually matter? |
| 19:28.18 | znf | because at lvl600 it still does shit damage |
| 19:28.44 | nebula169 | clickstorm/lucky strike/superclicks |
| 19:29.03 | Gnarfoz | guess I can put FlexRAID/tRAID on them then, can't be that much slower ;p |
| 19:29.09 | Stanzilla | hah kyle is playing it too :D |
| 19:29.27 | nebula169 | i've played it for months, gf has been addicted for awhile |
| 19:29.44 | Stanzilla | ah |
| 19:29.57 | nebula169 | 11k hs before ancients, so meh |
| 19:31.10 | Stanzilla | I'm at level 104 |
| 19:31.55 | znf | I still don't get why you would reset |
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| 19:32.20 | nebula169 | ... |
| 19:32.27 | Stanzilla | are you retarded |
| 19:32.31 | Stanzilla | you get a huge boost from it |
| 19:32.44 | Stanzilla | which makes you level faster |
| 19:32.49 | Stanzilla | then you reset again and level faster again |
| 19:32.49 | Stanzilla | etc |
| 19:33.01 | znf | 10% for each soul... |
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| 20:06.27 | nebula169 | so when i restarted and let it go for 30min while on a call, http://i.imgur.com/Gnfb0fo.png |
| 20:06.37 | nebula169 | s/ when// |
| 20:06.45 | Stanzilla | http://www.omgchrome.com/run-android-apps-on-windows-mac-linux-archon/ |
| 20:06.49 | Stanzilla | might try that later |
| 20:08.25 | znf | How do "frequent flier miles" work? |
| 20:09.07 | Fisker | It's bad Stanzilla |
| 20:09.11 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 20:09.14 | nebula169 | you accrue them..then you spend them |
| 20:09.16 | znf | wonders why nebula169 is using internet explorer |
| 20:09.24 | nebula169 | work |
| 20:09.33 | znf | nebula169, and how do you get them? 1:1 for whichever flight you get? |
| 20:09.46 | nebula169 | also ie11 is pretty decent |
| 20:10.06 | nebula169 | no, depends on the flight and when you book it, # of points can change |
| 20:10.12 | znf | I see |
| 20:10.24 | znf | And you can just get any flight for them |
| 20:10.25 | znf | ? |
| 20:10.32 | znf | You still have to pay airport taxes and stuff? |
| 20:11.02 | nebula169 | depends, they're better now with restrictions, but it's not always 100% |
| 20:11.11 | nebula169 | no, it covers everything |
| 20:11.21 | znf | cool |
| 20:11.27 | znf | always saw the concept in movies and stuff |
| 20:11.40 | Fisker | A |
| 20:11.41 | znf | always assumed there are some sort of catches |
| 20:12.55 | nebula169 | i mostly use mine to upgrade seats to business/first class, never really have problems with that |
| 20:14.48 | znf | http://www.reddit.com/r/WowUI/comments/2gvbuz/help_i_just_installed_dominos_how_do_i_remove/ckn209g |
| 20:14.54 | znf | I'm being helpful! |
| 20:20.42 | znf | http://oos.moxiecode.com/js_webgl/autumn/ |
| 20:20.43 | znf | nice |
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| 20:25.01 | Repo | transcriptor: 03funkydude 04r202-release * r202 : Tagging as r202-release |
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| 20:41.09 | Funkeh` | hmm so I have to use FXAA, because CMAA fucks over all the fonts if you play windowed and maximize the window |
| 20:41.18 | nevcairiel | dont do that |
| 20:41.22 | Funkeh` | becomes a jaggy mess |
| 20:41.23 | nevcairiel | or try /console gxrestart |
| 20:41.54 | nevcairiel | as a counter argument, fxaa messes with everythign even when not resizing the window :p |
| 20:42.06 | Funkeh` | what does it mess with? |
| 20:42.34 | nevcairiel | it blurs textures and screws up the names over npcs |
| 20:42.42 | Gnarfoz | znf: re-post your screenshots |
| 20:43.24 | nevcairiel | there is still hope they might fix the window size change bug, but i wonder how many people really do that |
| 20:43.59 | znf | Fxaa looks blurry as fuck for me without resizing |
| 20:44.30 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/aHZx2gp.png |
| 20:44.30 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/OCeO0YE.png |
| 20:44.30 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/PIiVpu2.png |
| 20:44.30 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/g3JcId3.png |
| 20:44.30 | Funkeh` | I tried /console gxrestart |
| 20:44.38 | nevcairiel | not helping? |
| 20:44.43 | Funkeh` | it reopens the window but not maximized lol |
| 20:45.06 | znf | last 2 are no-aa and cmaa |
| 20:45.16 | znf | the first 2 are FXAA |
| 20:46.16 | Funkeh` | err# |
| 20:46.19 | Gnarfoz | Funkeh`: where in the land of Scots are you at, btw? |
| 20:46.22 | Funkeh` | how can no AA look "ok"? |
| 20:46.46 | nevcairiel | you can clearly see the aliasing in the no AA screenshot |
| 20:46.51 | nevcairiel | but the font problem at hand isnt present |
| 20:47.41 | Gnarfoz | I don't think that's how it works, but maybe they're using some OS font rendering thing? Which might include ClearType or other AA |
| 20:48.59 | nevcairiel | might be |
| 20:51.20 | Funkeh` | I dunno. I'm trying no AA now and it does not look anywhere near as shit as it used to look |
| 20:51.31 | nevcairiel | maybe your DPI increased |
| 20:51.39 | nevcairiel | smaller pixels = less obvious |
| 20:53.04 | nevcairiel | in any case, if my choice was between FXAA and no AA, i might go with no AA too! |
| 20:53.14 | nevcairiel | but luckily i dont resize my window, so CMAA works perfectly |
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| 21:02.57 | Stanzilla | CM done |
| 21:02.59 | Stanzilla | 3 chars left |
| 21:03.04 | Stanzilla | (yes I counted wrong the last time) |
| 21:03.49 | Stanzilla | Funkeh`: why no maximized full? |
| 21:03.53 | Stanzilla | err windows |
| 21:03.54 | Stanzilla | ed |
| 21:09.39 | nevcairiel | i need CMs too, let me tag along! |
| 21:09.56 | Semlar | no content management systems for you |
| 21:12.15 | Stanzilla | http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/09/19/apk-teardown-google-play-services-6-1-contains-proximity-unlock-device-2-device-account-transfer-new-authorization-techniques-much/ |
| 21:12.19 | Stanzilla | finally drive backups |
| 21:12.23 | Stanzilla | hope that gets enabled soon |
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| 21:20.43 | Stanzilla | http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/4334-Warlords-of-Draenor-In-Game-Cinematics-Warlords-of-Draenor-In-Game-Cinematics |
| 21:21.22 | nevcairiel | not going to watch those |
| 21:34.12 | Gnarfoz | how likely is it someone actually decrypted them from beta and told them "your move"? ^^ |
| 21:34.23 | Gnarfoz | or maybe they're actually getting smarter and really anticipated it |
| 21:34.41 | Gnarfoz | (or they aren't encrypted anymore in recent builds) |
| 21:35.11 | nevcairiel | they will probably always stay encrypted |
| 21:35.15 | nevcairiel | they decrypt their movies at runtime |
| 21:35.28 | nevcairiel | wrathgate etc was the same way |
| 21:35.53 | nevcairiel | but we know the encryption, or used to anyway, no idea if they changed it |
| 21:36.52 | nevcairiel | i got a DHL number from a shop i ordered from earlier, and the number resolves to some shipment from early in august |
| 21:36.59 | Stanzilla | nothing but respect for those awesome vids |
| 21:37.00 | nevcairiel | with like 20 digits, i would think DHL doesnt recycle numbers huh |
| 21:37.06 | Stanzilla | the cinematic team is so amazing |
| 21:37.53 | nebula169 | in b4 MB IF BLIZZ SPENT LESS TIME ON MOVIES AND SHOP PETS, THE GAME WOULDN'T SUCK |
| 21:38.23 | nevcairiel | actually, it would suck more,. since we didnt have these awesome movies |
| 21:39.59 | nevcairiel | i love how they are really focusing on the story with a lot of these things |
| 21:41.36 | nevcairiel | in previous expansions it was super easy to miss the big story over the entire expansion, with all these things going on in WoD, thats really going to be hard |
| 21:47.41 | Stanzilla | yeah |
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| 22:00.00 | Stanzilla | http://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2014/09/19/maxwell-and-dx12-delivered/ |
| 22:00.09 | Stanzilla | "While the NVIDIA driver very efficiently manages resource allocation and synchronization under DX11, under DX12 it is the game developerâs responsibility to manage the CPU and GPU." |
| 22:00.11 | Stanzilla | oh man |
| 22:00.12 | znf | I don't understand shit of falling skies |
| 22:00.14 | Stanzilla | nothing for blizzard |
| 22:00.32 | znf | (season 4) |
| 22:02.53 | Stanzilla | http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/DirectX-Developer-Blog/DirectX-Techdemo |
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| 22:31.03 | Stanzilla | znf: are you home? |
| 22:31.10 | znf | yes |
| 22:31.22 | Stanzilla | I just found the hardest song on audiosurf ever |
| 22:31.25 | Stanzilla | go start it |
| 22:31.35 | Stanzilla | I'll send you a challenge once I'm done |
| 22:31.47 | znf | I'm watching Falling Skies and drinking wine :-| |
| 22:31.52 | znf | I'll probably fail it hard |
| 22:35.20 | Stanzilla | this is beyond insane |
| 22:35.31 | Stanzilla | threw my hands up in the air mid track because its just impossible |
| 22:36.10 | Stanzilla | znf: did you get a challenge? |
| 22:38.13 | EthanCentaurai | I bet Fisker could do it |
| 22:38.16 | EthanCentaurai | he's pro |
| 22:38.19 | Stanzilla | no |
| 22:40.04 | Stanzilla | znf: ogo |
| 22:41.14 | znf | fine |
| 22:41.15 | znf | I'll bite |
| 22:42.26 | znf | uhm |
| 22:42.29 | znf | my steam library broke |
| 22:42.32 | Stanzilla | good job |
| 22:43.05 | nevcairiel | that happens sometimes, delete the index file and let it rebuild, all g ood |
| 22:43.39 | znf | it asks me to install the game on C:\Program Files... |
| 22:43.44 | znf | or create a new library on T: |
| 22:43.53 | znf | but I already have one! |
| 22:44.50 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/sl74Quo.png |
| 22:44.51 | znf | ... |
| 22:49.05 | znf | bad track is bad |
| 22:49.09 | znf | noooooo |
| 22:49.15 | znf | I clicked restart instead of resume |
| 22:49.27 | Stanzilla | are you playing it on mono turbo? |
| 22:49.49 | Stanzilla | I almost had a seizure |
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| 22:56.27 | Stanzilla | dat nevcairiel |
| 22:56.41 | Stanzilla | are you up to the challenge? |
| 22:57.16 | znf | 1. Why the fuck are you playing this on turbo? |
| 22:57.27 | nevcairiel | i think i dont understand how the game works exactly |
| 22:57.30 | znf | 2. What kind of fuckin' drugs do you think I do? I'm too poor for the good ones |
| 22:57.39 | Stanzilla | was in popular |
| 22:57.39 | znf | 3. That is a fuckin' horrible song |
| 22:57.50 | znf | 4. You got reckd' |
| 22:58.08 | znf | not A fuckin' horrible song |
| 22:58.09 | znf | but |
| 22:58.10 | Stanzilla | like I said, I almost gave up mid track and let it flow :D |
| 22:58.20 | znf | THE MOST HORRIBLE song I heard in a long time |
| 22:58.32 | Stanzilla | eh, it's not that bad |
| 22:58.33 | znf | it's like some piece of shit metal (?!) but with electronic sounds |
| 22:58.35 | Stanzilla | standard cellweller |
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| 22:59.47 | EthanCentaurai | nevcairiel: I just got "Unknown quest objective type: spell, on quest: Moonfire, objective: Reach Level 3 to learn Moonfire" as a Tauren Druid in Mulgore |
| 22:59.53 | EthanCentaurai | I assume that's Quester? |
| 23:00.43 | Megalon | mighty tuaren durid, wandering the plains of mulgore |
| 23:00.50 | EthanCentaurai | moo |
| 23:00.59 | Megalon | moonfiring shit TO THE GROUND |
| 23:01.15 | EthanCentaurai | moonfires quiescens. |
| 23:02.54 | MysticalOS | :( http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/14500819950?page=1#3 |
| 23:06.49 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla: celldweller lost in time? i beat your score, first time i did this song :p |
| 23:07.07 | nevcairiel | EthanCentaurai: yes it is, i should take that out some time, but now i can just add spell to the known list :D |
| 23:07.41 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 23:08.23 | Gnarfoz | MysticalOS: look at you being all smart again |
| 23:08.56 | nevcairiel | look at Mac getting all owned again |
| 23:08.56 | Gnarfoz | (actually it's all question sentences, I should have read beforehand) |
| 23:09.36 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: did you do it on mono turbo? you don't show up on my list :o |
| 23:09.39 | Gnarfoz | also, you're badmouthing emulator scaling filters. those are pretty good! :P |
| 23:09.48 | Gnarfoz | do I need to buy this game or what |
| 23:10.12 | Stanzilla | ah there now |
| 23:10.23 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla: i did |
| 23:10.25 | nevcairiel | emulator scaling filters usually work quite d ifferently though |
| 23:10.25 | nevcairiel | sicne they are designed for special content |
| 23:10.25 | nevcairiel | but they are good at their job! |
| 23:10.42 | nevcairiel | i have a folder with fiels in them which are too long for the file system, how do i delete them? |
| 23:10.57 | nevcairiel | hm, apparently i can just rename them parent folders to be shorter |
| 23:10.59 | nevcairiel | stupid windows |
| 23:11.10 | Gnarfoz | how is that Windows' fault |
| 23:11.21 | nevcairiel | why can it not just delete them |
| 23:11.31 | nevcairiel | it managed to create t hem somehow |
| 23:11.50 | Gnarfoz | link trickery maybe |
| 23:12.01 | Gnarfoz | could have used ReFS! :D |
| 23:12.09 | nevcairiel | no refs on os drives |
| 23:12.45 | Gnarfoz | you got such file names on your os drive :o |
| 23:12.53 | nevcairiel | i dunno how it happened |
| 23:13.00 | nevcairiel | i was doing some cleaning and then this error showed up |
| 23:13.01 | Stanzilla | magic |
| 23:13.16 | Gnarfoz | blames Torhal |
| 23:13.16 | nevcairiel | although i dont know why i am cleaning, i'll reinstall soon on a new ssd |
| 23:13.20 | Gnarfoz | he's a wizard after all |
| 23:13.22 | nevcairiel | goes do something else |
| 23:13.36 | Torhal | o.O |
| 23:13.44 | nevcairiel | also, playing audiosurf with the keyboard sucks |
| 23:13.46 | Gnarfoz | hope you buying the one 850 pro they had on stock will make the price drop |
| 23:13.47 | nevcairiel | why did i try that |
| 23:14.01 | Stanzilla | play it with the mouse |
| 23:14.08 | nevcairiel | i did |
| 23:14.09 | Stanzilla | and which ssd are you getting |
| 23:14.11 | Gnarfoz | play it with a pen |
| 23:14.17 | Stanzilla | pen is for OSU |
| 23:14.24 | Gnarfoz | I just said which he's getting :o |
| 23:14.40 | nevcairiel | whats with all the anime music in the popular list |
| 23:14.56 | Gnarfoz | these kinds of beat matching games attract anime music for some reason |
| 23:15.03 | Gnarfoz | probably game type popular in Japan? no idea |
| 23:15.19 | Gnarfoz | same with Osu! and Frets on Fire and Stepmania |
| 23:24.46 | Repo | frenemy: 03Torhal 07master * 5.4.8.7-2-ge5bfee1 Frenemy.lua: [+2 commits] |
| 23:24.47 | Repo | e5bfee1: Actually add the ability to set a Guild Officer note. |
| 23:24.47 | Repo | b3e69f8: Cleanups. |
| 23:26.25 | Repo | frenemy: 03Torhal 07master * 5.4.8.7-3-g79a26ab Frenemy.lua: [+1 commit] Assign the ambiguated name to the GuildMemberIndexByName lookup so guild actions requiring an index will actually work... |
| 23:27.28 | Repo | frenemy: 03Torhal 045.4.8.8 * 3073c36 /: [new tag] |
| 23:32.39 | EthanCentaurai | I'm off now chaps, see you all tomorrow. |
| 23:50.07 | Stanzilla | nebula169: when did you do your first reset? |
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