| 00:06.05 | znf | git people, question |
| 00:06.38 | znf | if I commit something "private" to a repo, then I decide to "go public", how do I remove the private data? |
| 00:06.54 | znf | should I just create a new repo and sync them? or can I "go back" and delete some stuff (or, rather, replace) |
| 00:19.10 | End | znf: I *think* git filter-branch is what you're asking for |
| 00:19.27 | End | but the commit hashes of any commit touched would change |
| 00:20.18 | znf | I see |
| 00:20.29 | znf | meh, if I ever feel the need to go public with this, I'll look into it then |
| 00:22.20 | znf | November 21st to January 6th |
| 00:22.21 | znf | much event |
| 00:22.23 | znf | such span |
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| 00:57.38 | Gnarfoz | the solution is: don't put private stuff into the repository :P |
| 00:58.19 | Gnarfoz | well, at least now I have a 105th of a reason to hurry up with the keyboard buying... |
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| 00:59.25 | Stanzilla | what did you do |
| 01:00.30 | Gnarfoz | spent the last 2 hours trying to fix the numpad . key, but I have a serious lack of tools... and also, it's called Feinmechanik for a reason, apparently |
| 01:01.06 | Gnarfoz | had it working 3 times along the way, but it either got electrically or mechanically stuck :F |
| 01:01.13 | Stanzilla | why does it need fixing? |
| 01:01.40 | Gnarfoz | it's quite durable, that I can say... I'd have expected it to break apart a lot earlier :D and now it's a dead key |
| 01:03.02 | Gnarfoz | why did it need fixing? good question :F I don't really know |
| 01:03.20 | Gnarfoz | it was the one blue switch I opened, to look at the internals |
| 01:03.37 | Gnarfoz | didn't think I exerted force on it at all, but apparently, I did |
| 01:03.57 | Gnarfoz | when I put it all back together, . wouldn't quite play ball |
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| 01:47.23 | quiescens | ! |
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| 05:21.24 | pompy1 | Parnic: did you leak the Borderlands: The Pre-sequel cheevs? ';) |
| 05:22.37 | Parnic | nah |
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| 05:41.01 | Parnic | too busy playing smash bros |
| 05:47.45 | quiescens | o.o |
| 05:48.18 | Fisker | hey Parnic |
| 05:48.24 | Parnic | hi |
| 05:49.00 | Fisker | I'm tired |
| 05:49.09 | Parnic | me too |
| 05:50.56 | Fisker | I stopped viewing at fez Stanzilla |
| 06:01.15 | Stanzilla | ok |
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| 06:21.39 | Fisker | hey Stanzilla though |
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| 07:07.45 | sb | morning |
| 07:09.04 | sb | oh, thanks Gnarfoz, i need nosafevolumewarning :D |
| 07:09.06 | sb | thats annoying as hell |
| 07:24.40 | sb | znf: just squash all your commits (rewrite history) and remove the privat part + push |
| 07:24.54 | sb | but its easier to create a new repo then and do 1 commit :D |
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| 07:32.00 | quiescens | gives sbu a cookie |
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| 09:01.34 | Workfoz | yawns |
| 09:01.50 | Workfoz | https://mediacru.sh/9ac788032a11 and I only lost one key in the process, because apparently I'm a dumbass |
| 09:03.52 | haste | I remember I did that, but threw all the keys into a bowl |
| 09:03.59 | haste | to then discover that they had different angles :D |
| 09:04.21 | haste | luckily they were all tagged by type, so I just sat sorting until I had four bowls or so of keys |
| 09:04.38 | haste | then put it together based on how many keys would fit per row |
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| 09:05.45 | sb | Workfoz: how long did this take? |
| 09:06.03 | sb | also, was it cleaning or putting in those silencers? |
| 09:06.29 | Workfoz | cleaning, had the "soft landing pads" for a couple of years now |
| 09:06.45 | Workfoz | haste: yeah, did that the last time :D |
| 09:07.01 | haste | haha :D |
| 09:07.10 | Workfoz | good thing they have I, II, III, IV on them - only need to know which goes where and it's ok |
| 09:07.12 | haste | I have replaced my das keyboard since then :P |
| 09:07.18 | Workfoz | I kept them separate this time |
| 09:07.27 | haste | mine had smoe two letter and number combination |
| 09:07.30 | sb | if it takes >2-3h its not worth it and buying a new one is cheaper :| |
| 09:08.04 | nevcairiel | thats what I say |
| 09:08.10 | Workfoz | this one didn't cost quite that much, but a new one today would cost ~120â¬+ |
| 09:08.17 | Workfoz | not spending that just because lazy |
| 09:08.26 | nevcairiel | i make that in 3 hours easy |
| 09:08.39 | sb | Stanzilla: oh, free calls to USA!? |
| 09:08.41 | Workfoz | I don't think I do |
| 09:08.51 | nevcairiel | well i'm a consultant! |
| 09:08.52 | Workfoz | hangouts always had free calls to US :o |
| 09:09.02 | sb | oh? interesting |
| 09:09.04 | sb | didnt know :| |
| 09:09.10 | Workfoz | (I used it to talk to the hotel for Blizzcon last year at least) |
| 09:10.17 | Workfoz | sb: depends on how you do it... the actual taking apart and cleaning and putting back together without all the additional / possibly unnecessary stuff I did... I'd probably get it done in under an hour |
| 09:10.28 | Workfoz | if I'd blow-dry the keys/case |
| 09:10.54 | Workfoz | I did a lot more and was a lot more thorough than usual though, so it took basically the entire evening |
| 09:12.18 | Workfoz | keycaps off, took it apart, built myself a "bath"/basin out of my spare keyboard's ... what's Pappe in english again? box, by taping it inside and outside, so it wouldn't leak or soak up |
| 09:12.55 | Workfoz | and then cleaned switches & in between switches & back side of the circuit board with 99.9% alcohol & a brush |
| 09:13.51 | Workfoz | and because the basin worked better than I expected and I had a nice pool of alcohol sitting there when I was done with the board, I also cleaned the keycaps in it (hadn't originally planned on that, I would have just put them in the sink with warm water and a little dish washing soap) |
| 09:14.47 | sb | alcohol! |
| 09:14.49 | Workfoz | ...and somewhere along the way I made the mistake of opening one of the switches to look at the internals - and apparently bent the mechanism a bit so it didn't work anymore. spent another 2 hours trying to bend it back into the proper shape before the thin metal gave way and came apart ^^ |
| 09:15.06 | Workfoz | good thing I did that on numpad . instead of something important |
| 09:15.29 | Workfoz | maybe I can replace the metal piece with one from the switch sampler, whenever that arrives |
| 09:15.47 | Workfoz | although that would be kind of pointless, the whole point of the switch sampler is to decide what keyboard to buy next :P |
| 09:15.54 | sb | ugh... so much efforts. just buy a new one already :D |
| 09:15.59 | Workfoz | can't |
| 09:16.04 | Workfoz | too much obsession about details |
| 09:16.25 | Workfoz | I'd probably be happy if one fell into my lap |
| 09:16.38 | Workfoz | but when I buy it, I maximum obsess about details |
| 09:16.41 | sb | which deteails? |
| 09:16.44 | sb | details... |
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| 09:20.19 | Workfoz | build quality (plate mounted? circuit board mounted? rubberized stand-up feet?), switch type (I want to know if I can optimize my typing/gaming experience with another type of switch; maybe even Topre instead of Cherry), keycap profile (Cherry/DCS, SA, SS, OEM...), keycap material (ABS, PBT, thick PBT), backlight? (if so, what kind? translucent keycaps?), |
| 09:20.19 | Workfoz | macro functions/keys, FN/multimedia/non-standard keys, ... and that's only the ones I'm aware of. there's probably some more I forgot right now |
| 09:20.46 | Workfoz | (was that message properly split, and if so, where? after "keycaps?)," continuing with "macro"?) |
| 09:21.02 | sb | ugh.... |
| 09:21.51 | nevcairiel | Workfoz: yes it split fine |
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| 09:31.38 | Adirelle[work] | I have started to use Travis-CI, LuaUnit & mockagne to do some unit testing and continuous integration on the libraries I put on github, and I like it so far |
| 09:36.56 | Stanzilla | hey |
| 09:37.30 | sb | hmmmm |
| 09:37.33 | nevcairiel | ho |
| 09:37.46 | sb | Adirelle[work]: is there a character limit for LibSeralizer? |
| 09:38.12 | Adirelle[work] | sb: wait what ? (by the way, I'm in the way of rewriting it for performance reasons) |
| 09:38.36 | sb | weakauras fails on importing really long auras |
| 09:38.44 | sb | because aceseralizer cant handle it |
| 09:39.47 | Adirelle[work] | my last working version can (de)serializer Skada's SV (the file is 300kbytes) ; AceSerializer-3.0 did it as well |
| 09:40.30 | nevcairiel | why would you serialize skadas SV o.o |
| 09:40.59 | Adirelle[work] | said otherwise, I use a SV from Skada which is 300kbytes long as a reference to compare LibSerializer and AceSerializer, both in time and length of serialized data |
| 09:41.11 | Adirelle[work] | I wanted a bigass data for testing |
| 09:42.52 | sb | could actually test this, together with LibBase64 :D |
| 09:42.59 | sb | weekend maybe |
| 09:43.05 | sb | or Stanzilla wants to test it now :p |
| 09:43.29 | Adirelle[work] | (and before anyone ask : I wanted a seralizer that produced chat-safe data to use it in hyperlinks, which AceSerializer doesn't do) |
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| 09:44.10 | Adirelle[work] | it's still very alpha right now (e.g. the very last build of LibSerializer is broken) |
| 09:44.29 | Stanzilla | I'm not touching that serialzer thing |
| 09:44.33 | Stanzilla | that is so beyond my mind |
| 09:44.41 | sb | Adirelle[work]: could you add ( )? |
| 09:44.50 | Adirelle[work] | eh ? |
| 09:45.30 | sb | ewww, nevermind |
| 09:45.33 | Adirelle[work] | escaping of "(" and ")" in strings ? |
| 09:45.53 | sb | nah, stupid me |
| 09:47.01 | Stanzilla | sb: isnt that something that should be fixed in aceserializer btw? |
| 09:47.10 | quiescens | o.o |
| 09:47.20 | Timmeh | Reeppooooooo |
| 09:47.21 | Adirelle[work] | oh wait, stupid me, I forgot to push my last commit, so the latest LibSerializer is actually working |
| 09:47.33 | Timmeh | Torhal: someone broke Repo :-( |
| 09:47.36 | quiescens | gives timmeh a cookie |
| 09:47.40 | nevcairiel | AceSerializer works fine for what its designed to do, and thats serialize into a string for the addon channel |
| 09:47.44 | Timmeh | noms cookie |
| 09:47.45 | Adirelle[work] | but I might wildly change the format, so I would advise to wait the first tag |
| 09:47.59 | nevcairiel | although there was one bug report about some corner case |
| 09:48.01 | nevcairiel | looks it up |
| 09:48.16 | Timmeh | looks up nevcairiel |
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| 09:48.24 | Timmeh | \o/ |
| 09:48.27 | Timmeh | hugs Repo |
| 10:00.33 | Workfoz | le repo |
| 10:11.30 | sb | Stanzilla: no idea, i dont understand it - but new is always better |
| 10:13.39 | Stanzilla | sb: would help if we actually knew where the problem starts |
| 10:14.00 | Stanzilla | if iti s the serialzer, or the chatlib or wa itself |
| 10:14.22 | sb | yup |
| 10:14.34 | sb | its not chatlib, because it also fails when importing from text |
| 10:15.12 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 10:15.30 | Stanzilla | could also be a wow limitation then |
| 10:18.55 | Workfoz | fooooood |
| 10:22.12 | sb | too soon Workfoz |
| 10:22.22 | Workfoz | yeah, I just want some |
| 10:22.27 | Workfoz | don't have any, yet :D |
| 10:22.53 | Workfoz | Cordon-Bleu vom Schwein mit Bratenjus und Kroketten or Fussilipfanne mit Calabrese, Cocktailtomaten, Pesto und Mozzarella gratiniert (or whatever else they have) |
| 10:23.05 | Workfoz | sounds almost worth driving there |
| 10:23.20 | Stanzilla | *__* |
| 10:23.27 | Workfoz | ._____. |
| 10:25.30 | Stanzilla | need |
| 10:27.55 | Workfoz | if you leave now, it might still be warm when you get here in 3.25 hours |
| 10:28.12 | Stanzilla | what is jus though |
| 10:29.27 | Workfoz | "meat juice" basically |
| 10:29.59 | Workfoz | http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_(Lebensmittel) |
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| 10:30.30 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 10:30.42 | Stanzilla | I#d call it bratenfond |
| 10:30.53 | Workfoz | the juice that comes out of the meat when you cook/fry it, most likely concentrated, stripped from most of the fat, maybe thickened |
| 10:31.25 | Workfoz | I'm not sure where the differentiation is there, I'd also call it Fond probably |
| 10:31.43 | Workfoz | http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bratensatz |
| 10:33.41 | Stanzilla | I dont care really :D |
| 10:37.32 | nevcairiel | We just call it Bratensaft, but I recognize all the names at least! |
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| 11:26.45 | Stanzilla | http://winfuture.de/news,83577.html |
| 11:26.48 | Stanzilla | windows 9 shots |
| 11:28.59 | haste | it really looks like they'll continue the trend with every other release being good :P |
| 11:29.18 | nevcairiel | does that mean you dont count 8.1, or that 9 sucks? |
| 11:29.45 | haste | I count 8 and 8.1 as one |
| 11:29.57 | nevcairiel | 8.1 is perfectly usable though |
| 11:30.01 | nevcairiel | 8 was kinda meh |
| 11:30.06 | haste | 8.1 is what 8 should have been |
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| 11:30.14 | nevcairiel | 7 is what vista should've been |
| 11:30.59 | haste | just like 9 looks to be what 8.1 should have been :P |
| 11:31.07 | Semlar | i thought they were just going to call it Windows |
| 11:31.30 | nevcairiel | thats still rumors |
| 11:31.44 | Semlar | Windows One |
| 11:32.02 | Kalroth | xboner and wioner |
| 11:32.10 | Semlar | Windows 360 |
| 11:32.25 | Semlar | i think they should call it Doors |
| 11:32.34 | Kalroth | you'll take one look, turn 360 degrees and walk away |
| 11:34.56 | znf | I don't really like that tiled start menu non-sense |
| 11:35.11 | znf | I hope there's some hidden thing somewhere deep to remove that functionality completely |
| 11:35.33 | znf | I don't care for "modern" apps at all. |
| 11:37.52 | znf | http://scr.wfcdn.de/10813/Windows-9-Preview-Build-9834-1410434038-0-0.jpg |
| 11:37.58 | znf | what is this supposed to be? |
| 11:38.05 | znf | task switcher? |
| 11:38.58 | Stanzilla | virtual desktops |
| 11:39.31 | haste | now it just needs proper tiling! |
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| 11:59.14 | Torhal | Timmeh: ? |
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| 12:18.50 | Timmeh | Torhal: 11:47.02 < Repo!~repo@76.164.170.2 [Max SendQ exceeded] |
| 12:18.52 | Timmeh | Torhal: 11:48.19 >>> Repo!~repo@76.164.170.2 |
| 12:18.58 | Timmeh | ^ I figured you fixed Repo meanwhile |
| 12:19.16 | Timmeh | but maybe he's gained consciousness and fixed himself |
| 12:19.26 | Timmeh | he just disconnected again, in case you care :-P |
| 12:20.49 | Timmeh | (and reconnected) |
| 12:48.57 | sb | i should get https://mediacru.sh/EN2hOP1mCRBt for wod-leveling |
| 12:50.19 | Torhal | Timmeh: I restarted it. |
| 12:50.42 | Workfoz | sb: sounds about right |
| 12:50.42 | Timmeh | aw |
| 12:50.44 | Timmeh | that's too bad |
| 12:50.54 | Timmeh | I was really hoping for a conscious Repo |
| 12:52.54 | nevcairiel | sb: heh thats not too bad |
| 12:53.20 | Timmeh | IKEA WUERSTCHEN |
| 12:53.22 | nevcairiel | just have to find a way to keep the sausages heated for a day, and you're set! |
| 12:53.45 | Timmeh | nevcairiel: girlfriend? :-P |
| 12:53.56 | Timmeh | "HONNEEEY, NEW BATCH PLEASE" |
| 12:55.13 | Workfoz | I don't recall if she WoW's |
| 12:55.36 | nevcairiel | i thought she did |
| 12:57.43 | Workfoz | probably, she also played Wildstar a bit (when they had time, which was... rarely) |
| 12:58.00 | Workfoz | how's that going btw, house stuff quieting down a bit now, sb? |
| 13:01.03 | sb | you mean wasserschaden and other stuff? :D |
| 13:03.31 | Workfoz | I don't actually know what was going on |
| 13:03.41 | Workfoz | you just said you didn't have time all the time :D |
| 13:03.57 | Workfoz | i.e. your characters made it to an even lower level than mine did :D |
| 13:06.02 | nevcairiel | hey, i didnt even start the game since it hit retail |
| 13:06.44 | sb | Workfoz: yup, lots of stuff to do :| |
| 13:06.47 | sb | but now is wow time :p |
| 13:07.05 | nevcairiel | reserve wow time for november |
| 13:07.22 | sb | need to do 4 more CMs |
| 13:07.39 | nevcairiel | i should do that, but i dont know any people |
| 13:07.44 | sb | also, she plays wow |
| 13:07.59 | sb | nevcairiel: you know Gnarfoz |
| 13:08.21 | nevcairiel | can you even cross-realm CMs now? |
| 13:08.23 | sb | yup |
| 13:08.26 | sb | not "now" |
| 13:08.26 | nevcairiel | i know it didnt work earlier |
| 13:08.35 | sb | been like that for years :p |
| 13:08.45 | nevcairiel | couldnt do it when they were new! |
| 13:08.48 | nevcairiel | we tried! |
| 13:10.22 | nevcairiel | gold shouldnt really be all that hard, considering most realm bests are like half the gold time |
| 13:10.53 | nevcairiel | but i dont feel like doing this random |
| 13:11.48 | sb | screw realm best, thats just cracz |
| 13:12.10 | nevcairiel | just saying, if they can do it twice as fast, some dedicated players should at least manage gold :p |
| 13:12.47 | sb | we are trying and we are far from a good cm-setup :D |
| 13:12.53 | sb | (classes/specs) |
| 13:13.00 | nevcairiel | and not working? |
| 13:13.03 | sb | it is |
| 13:13.05 | sb | 5 / 9 done |
| 13:13.23 | sb | approaching the "harder" ones now |
| 13:13.36 | sb | oh, reminds me, have to watch a viedeo for tonight |
| 13:16.38 | sb | video :| wtf is wrong with my head |
| 13:17.14 | nevcairiel | just blame it on a typo, not brain fail |
| 13:18.00 | sb | right, typo! |
| 13:18.45 | sb | there was also a typo in my other line, misstyped "finger" and did "head" instead - keys are too close :/ |
| 13:18.56 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 13:19.46 | sb | http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:zCWU7E3qFjMJ:bash.org/%3F5300+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=de |
| 13:22.58 | znf | omg |
| 13:23.02 | znf | bash.org is down? |
| 13:25.35 | sb | yup |
| 13:27.26 | znf | heh, I like how samsung is taking advantage of the apple event :D |
| 13:28.40 | sb | how? |
| 13:29.27 | znf | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA8xPyBAs_o |
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| 14:11.27 | Repo | weakauras-2: 03stanzilla 076.0 * r96 WeakAurasOptions/RegionOptions/model.lua: apply Infuses patch for specifing a unit for a model |
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| 14:21.32 | Workfoz | yaaay networking changes tonight |
| 14:23.13 | nevcairiel | your DC is breaking itself? |
| 14:24.29 | Workfoz | no, we're reconfiguring (physically and logically) our backbone/ring |
| 14:24.36 | Workfoz | to include the new DC |
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| 14:24.54 | Workfoz | so we can start actually doing stuff! :D |
| 14:43.18 | nevcairiel | just that you have to work much late tonight? |
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| 14:52.22 | Workfoz | depending on how well it goes, yeah |
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| 16:41.40 | Workfoz | leftovers, nev?! you could feed hungry children in Africa from that |
| 16:41.52 | Workfoz | don't be so wasteful |
| 16:42.17 | Workfoz | so we're already 2 hours or so behind schedule, lol |
| 16:42.23 | Workfoz | if there ever was a schedule |
| 16:43.13 | nevcairiel | i'm having leftovers for dinner |
| 16:43.15 | nevcairiel | that must be enough |
| 16:50.27 | quiescens | o.o |
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| 17:13.44 | MysticalOS | lots of lua errors with quartz still in beta. guess that small push wasn't for WoD. If i get bored later maybe i'll hack at it |
| 17:14.31 | MysticalOS | "1x Quartz\modules\Tradeskill.lua:88: Usage: RawHook([object], method, [handler], [hookSecure]): Attempt to hook secure function UNIT_SPELLCAST_START. Use `SecureHook' or add `true' to the argument list to override." |
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| 17:27.36 | Fisker | http://chrome.blogspot.dk/2014/09/first-set-of-android-apps-coming-to.html the happening Stanzilla |
| 17:28.11 | Fisker | only on chrome os |
| 17:28.12 | Fisker | for shame |
| 17:28.42 | Fisker | I need a chromeos thing |
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| 17:40.09 | nevcairiel | MysticalOS: works perfectly fine here |
| 17:40.28 | nevcairiel | also, thats just a follow-up error, the actual error was before that |
| 17:41.08 | MysticalOS | that error occured i 3 places but that's only error bugsack reported |
| 17:41.09 | MysticalOS | hmm |
| 17:41.25 | nevcairiel | that usually happens when the main player castbar didnt load properly |
| 17:41.39 | nevcairiel | because quartz is evil, it hooks itself to add stuff like tradeskill casting :D |
| 17:43.00 | MysticalOS | ah |
| 17:43.04 | MysticalOS | there is another error |
| 17:43.05 | MysticalOS | 1x Quartz\modules\Player-Player.lua:190: table index is nil |
| 17:43.17 | nevcairiel | yeah you didnt get the latest version then |
| 17:43.21 | nevcairiel | 190 isnt even a table part anymore |
| 17:43.33 | MysticalOS | hmm, i downloaded and installed latest |
| 17:44.07 | MysticalOS | http://www.wowace.com/addons/quartz/files/907-3-1-4-1-gd02546c/ |
| 17:44.14 | MysticalOS | unless you have a wod branch? |
| 17:44.27 | nevcairiel | i just checked that version, line 190 is a local variable declaration in that |
| 17:44.31 | nevcairiel | you don't have that :p |
| 17:45.19 | MysticalOS | ok manually downloaded, working now, has to be curse client fail cause i installed that version with curse client |
| 18:00.25 | quiescens | brr |
| 18:07.36 | znf | brrr? |
| 18:07.38 | znf | BR BR? |
| 18:07.39 | znf | hue hue |
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| 18:17.37 | nevcairiel | man druid travel form is a joke now. caster form i run at 127% speed, in cat form 157%, and travel form 167% .. the last 10% isnt really worth another form <.< |
| 18:17.44 | nevcairiel | give mount speed baseline! |
| 18:19.33 | nevcairiel | and cool, one of my quest rewards just turned epic :D |
| 18:28.44 | Workfoz | la la la |
| 18:30.21 | Workfoz | note: configuring a car-load of network switches and not issuing a "save" command after finishing is not a very productive use of your time |
| 18:31.53 | Workfoz | time for me to go to the old DC and move a fiber one port to the left |
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| 18:44.39 | nevcairiel | saving is good |
| 18:44.50 | nevcairiel | both money and configs |
| 18:45.11 | Megalon | and the girl |
| 18:45.15 | Megalon | save the girl, save the world! |
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| 19:19.58 | Fisker | One day Stanzilla |
| 19:20.04 | Fisker | this script will write all 34 lines |
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| 19:27.06 | Stanzilla | wot |
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| 19:35.40 | Fisker | chromeos Stanzilla |
| 19:35.43 | Fisker | Trying to VM it |
| 19:36.25 | znf | stuff I learned to today |
| 19:36.33 | Fisker | holy shit it went further |
| 19:36.34 | znf | it's NOT a good idea to microwave a large candle |
| 19:37.15 | nevcairiel | why would you even try o.o |
| 19:37.32 | Primer | because he can |
| 19:38.09 | znf | pretty much that :D |
| 19:38.34 | znf | I have a fairly big candle, but it burned uneven, and the little piece of string got stuck in the melted wax :D |
| 19:38.43 | znf | was wondering if I could see if there's still string in there or not |
| 19:38.58 | znf | but something started smoking in the microwave :D |
| 19:40.29 | znf | wait |
| 19:40.31 | znf | I should try this at 80W |
| 19:40.32 | znf | :D |
| 19:40.33 | znf | brb |
| 19:41.06 | Stanzilla | I puked on a roof yesterday and I had eaten a lot of cheese before |
| 19:41.54 | Stanzilla | so now everything sticks to the roof |
| 19:42.08 | nevcairiel | good job? |
| 19:42.13 | Stanzilla | I guess.. |
| 19:42.32 | Megalon | would have been better if you puked on the ceiling |
| 19:43.08 | Stanzilla | well it was kinda urgent, no time to get fancy |
| 19:43.43 | nevcairiel | get to an edge and let it flow down! |
| 19:43.48 | Megalon | turn the roof into a ceiling |
| 19:43.53 | nevcairiel | also, get a bucket and clean it up after |
| 19:44.06 | Megalon | go upstairs, push louspeaker |
| 19:44.06 | znf | nope |
| 19:44.09 | znf | even 80W, still smokes |
| 19:44.11 | znf | oh well |
| 19:44.11 | Megalon | turn on music! |
| 19:44.17 | Megalon | worked in dott too |
| 19:45.31 | Stanzilla | I already poured like 3 buckets |
| 19:45.53 | Megalon | buckets of puke? |
| 19:45.58 | Stanzilla | :/ |
| 19:46.59 | znf | Hmmm, I need to figure out a netfilter way to redirect a specific IP to my webserver, in a filter table |
| 19:47.02 | znf | or something like that |
| 19:50.23 | znf | my script that collects youtube IPs has made a list of 488 items O.O |
| 19:50.33 | znf | many IPs... |
| 19:50.50 | znf | pornub has only ~60 |
| 19:52.30 | Primer | By netfilter you mean iptables? |
| 19:53.32 | znf | Primer, yes |
| 19:55.30 | znf | it's easy to redirect all requests to port 80 to myself... but it seems that when I redirect to another host, things don't work out :D |
| 19:55.47 | nevcairiel | of course not |
| 19:56.26 | znf | I know I've tackled with this before, years ago |
| 19:56.26 | Megalon | i wonder why |
| 19:56.33 | znf | but I can't remember how :-( |
| 20:00.03 | Primer | You need DNAT and SNAT rules, that's all |
| 20:00.45 | Primer | I recently had to do that so I could bounce an ssh connection off a VPS of mine so I could download our production database from AWS |
| 20:01.26 | Primer | as I was only able to sustain something abysmal like 50KB/s directly from AWS, whereas my VPS was able to sustain 7MB/s to home, and more to AWS |
| 20:02.25 | Primer | It seems iptables is also called netfilter...guess I forgot |
| 20:03.01 | znf | care to tell me how you did it? |
| 20:03.13 | Primer | yeah, sec |
| 20:03.35 | znf | the only option I have right now is to use a transparent proxy where I redirect to another URL :=/ |
| 20:03.40 | Primer | http://pastebin.mozilla.org/6442559 |
| 20:04.57 | znf | (I'm trying to make it so that when a client is blocked - for no payment, or whatever - he gets to see a page telling him to pay his bill) |
| 20:05.00 | Primer | I don't recall why I didn't just bounce port 22 on both ends |
| 20:05.20 | Fisker | oh man |
| 20:05.22 | Fisker | It's happening |
| 20:05.32 | Primer | since my VPS has multiple IPs, and I believe the one in the script is not the one sshd is bound to |
| 20:06.04 | Primer | but yeah, doing that cost me an extra $60 on my VPS bill, as the file I downloaded was 177g |
| 20:06.13 | Primer | cane in overnight though :) |
| 20:06.14 | znf | ouch |
| 20:06.20 | Primer | s/cane/came/ |
| 20:06.32 | Primer | work paid for it, as it was work-related |
| 20:07.26 | Fisker | The potential happening |
| 20:07.58 | znf | the bigger fappening, Fisker ? |
| 20:09.41 | Fisker | The chromeos'ining |
| 20:09.50 | Fisker | though I may have to reinstall vmware player maybe? |
| 20:09.57 | Fisker | this thing is weird |
| 20:10.05 | Fisker | Apparently in newer builds the virtualbox stuff doesn't work |
| 20:10.25 | znf | I stopped trying to virtualbox stuff |
| 20:10.28 | znf | now I just pirate vmware :( |
| 20:10.55 | Fisker | I had to disable hyper-v |
| 20:10.58 | Fisker | :( |
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| 20:18.18 | Repo | ace3: 03nevcairiel * r1113 AceConfig-3.0/AceConfigDialog-3.0/AceConfigDialog-3.0.lua: |
| 20:18.18 | Repo | AceConfigDialog-3.0: Show a more meaningful title on Blizzard Options Groups (Ticket #353) |
| 20:37.50 | Repo | ace3: 03nevcairiel * r1114 AceComm-3.0/ChatThrottleLib.lua: AceComm-3.0: Update ChatThrottleLib to v23 |
| 20:38.50 | Stanzilla | gibe changelog |
| 20:41.22 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: where is that hpsted btw |
| 20:41.34 | nevcairiel | also on wowace |
| 20:43.13 | Gnarfoz | Megalon: is +43 664 xxx a mobile number? |
| 20:43.38 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: yes |
| 20:44.23 | Stanzilla | should be one or A1 |
| 20:45.56 | Gnarfoz | don't they have Rufnummernmitnahme like we do? |
| 20:46.06 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 20:46.25 | Gnarfoz | isn't it entirely up in the air which net it is, then |
| 20:46.28 | nevcairiel | mobile nontheless |
| 20:46.37 | Gnarfoz | yeah that's all I wanted to know anyhow |
| 20:46.37 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 20:47.13 | Stanzilla | @project chatthrottlelib |
| 20:47.33 | Stanzilla | @ping |
| 20:47.52 | Stanzilla | Torhal: fix bot |
| 20:53.17 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: which version did it use before? |
| 20:54.25 | nevcairiel | 22 |
| 20:57.09 | Megalon | Gnarfoz: yes |
| 20:57.56 | Megalon | and yea, the number could be with any carrier |
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| 21:29.24 | Repo | bigwigs_cataclysm: 03funkydude * r50 Firelands/Ragnaros.lua: |
| 21:29.24 | Repo | Firelands/Ragnaros: Replace Burning Wound debuff duration bar with ability cooldown bar. |
| 21:57.19 | znf | so, Gnarfoz |
| 21:57.28 | znf | regarding that intermediate certificate |
| 21:58.18 | znf | the software *should* serve the intermediate certificate (the whole chain) to the browser in the same "packet" that it sends the certificate, right? |
| 21:59.22 | Gnarfoz | not sure what you mean by packet |
| 21:59.43 | Gnarfoz | but yes, the server should send all certs except the root cert, during the handshake |
| 22:00.00 | znf | that's what I mean |
| 22:00.16 | znf | I see now http://i.imgur.com/PkHqCoS.png |
| 22:02.14 | Gnarfoz | yeah, that's not enough |
| 22:03.05 | Gnarfoz | should look like this https://mediacru.sh/0BcT8H_bNzg2 |
| 22:03.27 | znf | Gnarfoz, chrome actually shows it like that :D |
| 22:03.43 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/5BQMY5S.png |
| 22:03.51 | Gnarfoz | only because you (well, someone, Chrome maybe, or Windows) downloaded the intermediate cert. |
| 22:04.00 | Gnarfoz | and that's not Chrome's dialog, it's Windows' |
| 22:04.01 | znf | yup |
| 22:04.08 | znf | Oh, right. |
| 22:04.15 | znf | but firefox is having none of that |
| 22:04.22 | Gnarfoz | Firefox has its own shizzle, yep |
| 22:04.30 | Gnarfoz | (which is nice, since you can more easily debug shit) |
| 22:05.04 | znf | Hmmm. |
| 22:05.08 | znf | Wait, actually Firefox does do that. |
| 22:05.17 | znf | Tor Browser is the one which is having none of that. |
| 22:05.46 | znf | this is hard to debug :D |
| 22:06.15 | znf | well, not to debug |
| 22:06.24 | znf | but I bet my ticket will be dismissed |
| 22:11.50 | Gnarfoz | just hide that web interface behind a real webserver |
| 22:12.00 | Gnarfoz | much easier than waiting for them to fix their openssl usage |
| 22:12.54 | znf | it's not exactly a big problem :P |
| 22:13.06 | znf | but I want it fixed ^^ |
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| 22:21.02 | znf | Gnarfoz, question, would the intermediate cert be enough? or should software need the whole ca-bundle? |
| 22:22.50 | Gnarfoz | huh? |
| 22:22.55 | Gnarfoz | you need yours+intermediate |
| 22:22.59 | Gnarfoz | (in startssl's case) |
| 22:23.14 | znf | ok :) |
| 22:23.18 | Gnarfoz | not sure what "ca-bundle" contains, that's just an arbitrary file name |
| 22:23.31 | nevcairiel | or sometimes even more than one intermediate, you need all thats not a trusted root |
| 22:23.32 | znf | it contains shitloads of stuff :D |
| 22:23.46 | Gnarfoz | yeah I told him that before and he gave me a :( face, nevcairiel :D |
| 22:23.58 | Gnarfoz | ca-bundle sounds more like a collection of intermediates+roots |
| 22:24.05 | znf | well, either way, seems that the ca-bundle that startssl offers contains their own intermediate |
| 22:24.16 | Gnarfoz | (since it isn't called "cert-bundle", but "CA bundle") |
| 22:24.28 | Gnarfoz | sure, I'd say that's the intended purpose |
| 22:24.38 | Gnarfoz | for you to get all their certs in one bundle |
| 22:24.46 | Gnarfoz | to pick out what you need |
| 22:24.54 | Gnarfoz | (or add them all to your system, if you want) |
| 22:24.56 | znf | mhm |
| 22:25.06 | znf | or to serve the whole bundle to the user? |
| 22:25.08 | Gnarfoz | but certainly don't send all of THAT to your client |
| 22:25.09 | znf | :> |
| 22:25.11 | znf | oh |
| 22:25.13 | znf | why? :( |
| 22:25.16 | znf | it's only 200kb! |
| 22:25.17 | Gnarfoz | because it's HUGE |
| 22:25.21 | nevcairiel | that reminds me that i wanted to upgrade my certs to sha2 |
| 22:25.43 | Gnarfoz | and because clients have no reason, and don't care for CA certs you send them. they'll just be ignored |
| 22:26.04 | Gnarfoz | *have no reason to need |
| 22:26.06 | znf | except android |
| 22:26.07 | znf | and ios :( |
| 22:26.12 | znf | they're a bundle of sticks :( |
| 22:26.13 | Gnarfoz | no, those don't either |
| 22:26.22 | Gnarfoz | they also ignore root certs you send them |
| 22:26.33 | Gnarfoz | sending around root certs makes zero sense for TLS |
| 22:26.46 | Gnarfoz | you need to already have them, it wouldn't be secure otherwise |
| 22:27.30 | znf | well, either way, sending the bundle *should* work, right? (appart from the browsers to ignore most of the content) |
| 22:27.46 | Gnarfoz | it could, but the client could also choke on it and abort the connection |
| 22:27.54 | nevcairiel | some browsers may freak out if you send them way too much |
| 22:27.55 | Gnarfoz | because size limit for TLS handshake or something |
| 22:28.12 | Gnarfoz | you'd be sending 20 certs when you need to send 2 |
| 22:28.18 | Gnarfoz | also, the ca-bundle doesn't include YOUR cert |
| 22:28.39 | Gnarfoz | you already have a file with the necessary contents: your-cert+class1intermediate |
| 22:28.49 | Gnarfoz | that software just sucks |
| 22:28.53 | znf | I know |
| 22:32.54 | znf | http://www.streamboard.tv/oscam/ticket/3826 |
| 22:33.07 | znf | I hope I explained it well enough |
| 22:35.51 | Gnarfoz | I'd have entirely left out the stupid "fetch intermediate" mechanism (you shouldn't expect such a mechanism to be in place, it's non-standard in every way); and Google is not serving its entire chain, they're serving host cert + their intermediate |
| 22:36.02 | Gnarfoz | (in the image you linked earlier, that's the lower two of the 3 visible ones) |
| 22:36.28 | Gnarfoz | also, the ca-bundle idea... :P |
| 22:37.13 | Gnarfoz | anyway, the only thing they should really need to understand is your first paragraph |
| 22:37.16 | Gnarfoz | the rest is fluff |
| 22:37.44 | Primer | still good to be thorough though |
| 22:39.07 | znf | Gnarfoz, well, they're german. |
| 22:39.11 | znf | Most of them! |
| 22:39.17 | znf | And some are stubborn little fuckers >_< |
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| 22:41.57 | Gnarfoz | znf: you can only hope they're not like the TeamSpeak or EQDKP+ guys |
| 22:42.00 | Gnarfoz | right, Stanzilla? :D |
| 22:42.14 | znf | yeah, what's with you german dudes and general programming things? |
| 22:42.27 | znf | I mean, except you guys |
| 22:42.37 | znf | the others I had the "pleasure" to interact are all "gtfo, not an issue" |
| 22:42.56 | Gnarfoz | nobody wants to talk to lusers |
| 22:44.59 | znf | some of these guys actually refused to talk to me because I admited to running a commercial service with their software and their policy is "no support for paid servers", even though the bug is valid and affects all their users |
| 22:45.36 | znf | I mean, sure, I'm on my own here regarding support, but I didn't actually ask for support, I just reported a bug *shrug* |
| 22:45.43 | znf | am I being completely wrong here? |
| 22:45.56 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: oh yeah |
| 22:46.40 | znf | Stanzilla, I'm too lazy to check, and you're up-to-date, did they fix char copy on PTR? |
| 22:46.49 | nevcairiel | no |
| 22:46.55 | znf | thanks, you're a cupcake |
| 22:47.02 | Stanzilla | @Zorbrix: Character Copy is now working on PTR realms. Restart your game-client and use the in-game UI on character select screen to get started. |
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| 22:47.20 | nevcairiel | when was that? |
| 22:47.21 | znf | See? good germans you guys! |
| 22:47.26 | nevcairiel | an hour ago it was still broke |
| 22:47.33 | znf | oh, my hots is updating |
| 22:47.48 | znf | says 10MB/sec, but it's not doing anything |
| 22:47.58 | Stanzilla | http://www.twitter.com/Zorbrix/status/510174885071450112 |
| 22:48.03 | Stanzilla | http://www.twitter.com/Zorbrix/status/510180002965372929 |
| 22:48.09 | Stanzilla | znf: hit pause |
| 22:48.11 | Stanzilla | then resume |
| 22:48.25 | znf | meh, restarted b.net fixed it |
| 22:48.38 | nevcairiel | twitter fails at not translating times to my timezone |
| 22:48.49 | nevcairiel | such a tiny JS function, and so much annoyance saved |
| 22:50.10 | znf | for a second there, I thought they actually fixed the fullscreen thigie :D |
| 22:50.14 | znf | (video settings) |
| 22:50.37 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: they usually do that :o |
| 22:51.22 | nevcairiel | well the links Stanzilla posted say 2:15 PM |
| 22:51.32 | znf | you know, I'm not at all excited by the fact that the expansion is soon :( |
| 22:51.34 | nevcairiel | the comments all say relative time, ie. 1h, 2h |
| 22:51.37 | nevcairiel | but not the main tweet |
| 22:52.22 | znf | says 12:15 AM - 12 Sep 2014 |
| 22:52.22 | znf | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:52.23 | nevcairiel | also, while the relative time is of course correct (duh), when i hover it, the popup is in US time again |
| 22:52.31 | znf | (which is correct) |
| 22:52.39 | nevcairiel | doesnt do it here |
| 22:52.51 | Gnarfoz | only on the comments |
| 22:52.52 | znf | maybe it fails to detect your time-zone somehow |
| 22:53.05 | znf | also the comments show my time-zone, too |
| 22:53.10 | znf | (or replies, whatever) |
| 22:53.36 | Gnarfoz | the tweet says it was posted at 11:36 PM Sept 11 |
| 22:53.40 | Gnarfoz | for me |
| 22:53.44 | nevcairiel | doesn't work in IE either |
| 22:53.45 | Gnarfoz | which certainly seems like local time |
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| 22:53.49 | nevcairiel | in IE it uses german date formatting |
| 22:53.52 | nevcairiel | but still wrong time |
| 22:54.20 | nevcairiel | and my timezone is set to german time, i checked :P |
| 22:54.28 | Stanzilla | https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t31.0-8/10683404_10152681873024826_6530031786917442660_o.jpg |
| 22:54.32 | Stanzilla | they should just go back to glass |
| 22:54.34 | Stanzilla | it was so much better |
| 22:54.41 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/uVJiufA.png |
| 22:54.42 | znf | this is new |
| 22:55.01 | nevcairiel | they added that last build, but it was broken and caused logins to fail. :P |
| 22:55.21 | znf | so what are they referring to? just addons? or the replacement textures I have in \interface ? |
| 22:55.39 | nevcairiel | it just checks for addons with out of date .toc interface numbers |
| 22:55.47 | nevcairiel | imho they should just disable resource overrides entirely |
| 22:55.56 | znf | no they shouldn't :( |
| 22:56.01 | znf | I hate the default fonts |
| 22:56.04 | znf | I hate so many sounds |
| 22:56.11 | znf | and I want my damn icons to look the same! |
| 22:56.16 | nevcairiel | we hate you too, but we dont just r eplace you! |
| 22:56.42 | znf | Why should they disable resource overrides? |
| 22:57.08 | znf | cleanicons is awesome |
| 22:57.29 | znf | ...the buttons on that prompt don't work |
| 22:57.32 | nevcairiel | because there is no logical reason to have it |
| 22:57.51 | nevcairiel | it doesnt look like a blizzard popup anyway, do you override that too? :P |
| 22:58.02 | znf | yes I do! |
| 22:58.15 | znf | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info18589-Aurora.html |
| 22:58.36 | znf | or, rather http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info19980-AuroraMissingTextures.html |
| 22:59.00 | znf | uhm, why are there so many ptr realms, wtf |
| 22:59.28 | nevcairiel | the example screenshot on that second link looks so horrible <.< |
| 22:59.50 | znf | it just replaces those crappy red textures |
| 23:00.00 | nevcairiel | still! |
| 23:00.27 | znf | I brokededit |
| 23:01.24 | znf | I would like WoW to have the same style of textures that the battle.net launcher has |
| 23:02.27 | znf | oh, Brill is down, doh |
| 23:02.45 | znf | Stanzilla, also, wtf happened with the Explorer icon? |
| 23:02.52 | znf | it looks so out of place in Win9 |
| 23:03.08 | Stanzilla | new |
| 23:05.23 | znf | SexyMap in 6.0 is funny |
| 23:05.40 | nevcairiel | did that thing not break yet |
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| 23:06.15 | znf | Why do you want Funkeh`s toy to break? :( |
| 23:12.06 | znf | I need to make autossh stop spamming my syslog O.O |
| 23:12.27 | Primer | Why do you use ` when it should be '? |
| 23:12.52 | znf | because Funkeh` has a ` in his name |
| 23:12.52 | nevcairiel | because its part of his nick |
| 23:13.03 | znf | and it would be silly to type Funkeh`'s |
| 23:13.46 | znf | Hmm. Crap. Seems Auditor broke in 6.0 |
| 23:14.46 | znf | So annoying that the author put it ARR and vanished :( |
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| 23:16.36 | nevcairiel | i use http://www.wowace.com/addons/scrooge/ |
| 23:16.51 | nevcairiel | and its licensed so that i can fix it if need be :p |
| 23:17.44 | znf | Can't remember if I tried that or not |
| 23:18.15 | nevcairiel | should mark it as 6.0 compatible at some point and prod someone to tag it, or something, it looks so out of date |
| 23:18.28 | znf | If you wish to take this project over, please report it and state your intentions. |
| 23:18.30 | znf | do it ^^ |
| 23:18.53 | nevcairiel | i think it still needs consent from the developer |
| 23:18.56 | nevcairiel | i forgot how that goes |
| 23:19.02 | znf | or I could :P |
| 23:19.05 | znf | Last login |
| 23:19.06 | znf | Sep 06, 2012 |
| 23:19.15 | Torhal | It does. |
| 23:19.17 | znf | seems MIA :( |
| 23:19.25 | Torhal | But you can make a new project using the code. |
| 23:19.31 | nevcairiel | yeah but thats annoying |
| 23:19.42 | znf | Torhal, and if the author is unreachable? |
| 23:19.54 | nevcairiel | i can just fix it and prod some admin to tag it! |
| 23:19.56 | nevcairiel | easier! |
| 23:19.59 | nevcairiel | ;) |
| 23:19.59 | Torhal | It's GPL. You can't take over the project, but you can fork the code. |
| 23:20.32 | znf | so could I make "Scrooge2 - an Auditor replacement"? :D |
| 23:20.52 | nevcairiel | lets say I could, i'm not sure you would manage |
| 23:21.27 | znf | I'm good at patching things! Then asking for help from someone else! |
| 23:21.43 | nevcairiel | its really kinda sad if you have an addon that still works 99% fine, and you just want to mark it as compatible or something |
| 23:21.53 | nevcairiel | but you would have to fork it because the author vanished :p |
| 23:22.03 | znf | seems it's not that used anyway |
| 23:22.09 | znf | latest file got only ~1.3k downloads |
| 23:22.27 | nevcairiel | yeah i dunno what people use for that functionality otherwise |
| 23:22.39 | nevcairiel | i found it back in the day sometime and its minimalistic and works fine |
| 23:22.49 | znf | but Auditor, for example, has 49k downloads on the latest version |
| 23:23.12 | znf | could piggyback on its name *shrug* |
| 23:23.17 | znf | is that scumbag-y? |
| 23:23.29 | nevcairiel | auditor is even older, the last version is from like 2011 :P |
| 23:23.36 | znf | and worked fine until 6.0 |
| 23:24.11 | znf | PTR is so slow, I've been trying to delete a char for the last 5 minutes |
| 23:28.26 | Repo | scrooge: 03Nevcairiel 041.1-50400 * e12f14e /: [new tag, +1 commits] Tag as 1.1-50400 |
| 23:28.32 | nevcairiel | apparently i can tag it |
| 23:28.34 | nevcairiel | yay :p |
| 23:28.52 | Repo | scrooge: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 1.1-50400 Scrooge.toc: [+1 commit] Update TOC to 5.4 |
| 23:29.20 | Primer | makes a note of that |
| 23:29.32 | Primer | I recall that Auditor lacked being able to track certain transactions |
| 23:29.44 | Primer | like, hading someone gold...perhaps that's just not possible? |
| 23:29.53 | nevcairiel | hading? |
| 23:29.59 | Primer | handing |
| 23:30.02 | nevcairiel | oh |
| 23:30.11 | nevcairiel | it should notice that your gold is less now |
| 23:30.20 | nevcairiel | and account for that somehow |
| 23:30.26 | znf | I'm pretty sure it tracks "trading" |
| 23:30.29 | znf | I remember it did |
| 23:31.02 | nevcairiel | Torhal: i guess it doesnt come out of abandoned state by its own even when it has a new release, huh |
| 23:31.41 | Primer | hrmm, no scrooge in CC |
| 23:31.46 | Torhal | Nope. |
| 23:31.53 | Torhal | Primer: Abandoned. |
| 23:32.00 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: the resource overrides have a logical reason to be there: they use them in dev, too :D |
| 23:32.02 | nevcairiel | well then, fix it! |
| 23:32.08 | Torhal | I don't use it. |
| 23:32.18 | nevcairiel | the addon works fine, just change the flag :P |
| 23:32.55 | Torhal | I think znf should do it. |
| 23:33.08 | nevcairiel | someone gave znf powers? |
| 23:33.09 | znf | You really want me to bug you out a whole day? |
| 23:33.14 | znf | On how to fix that? |
| 23:33.22 | Torhal | No, you should just fix it. |
| 23:33.30 | Torhal | You don't have privs, sure, but you'll manage somehow. |
| 23:33.38 | Gnarfoz | wat, Auditor no worky? :( |
| 23:33.48 | nevcairiel | i should lobby someone to get my moderator access back |
| 23:34.00 | znf | Gnarfoz, I tried loading it up on the PTR, core.lua did some division by zero |
| 23:34.06 | nevcairiel | apparently i lost it in a phase of wow abstinence |
| 23:34.06 | Gnarfoz | Torhal for president, nevcairiel for moderator |
| 23:34.17 | Torhal | znf: Division by zero is a beta thing. |
| 23:34.22 | Gnarfoz | Kaelten for drinks |
| 23:34.26 | Gnarfoz | cheers \o/ |
| 23:34.27 | Torhal | They turn it on during beta, turn it off after release. |
| 23:34.56 | Gnarfoz | Blizzard is so leet, they divide by zero just for their beta phase |
| 23:35.14 | Torhal | They make it error instead of silently "working" |
| 23:35.27 | nevcairiel | lua has nan and inf, no reason you cant divide by zero |
| 23:35.47 | znf | hmmm, wtf Mikrotik, where the fuck is my "redirect" action O.O, now there's only a port redirection in their netfilter implementation. What the hell changed |
| 23:36.02 | Torhal | My only guess is they turn it on so their own UI stuff doesn't do it; assumption being it has overhead for Lua to correct this itself. |
| 23:36.08 | Gnarfoz | everything changed! |
| 23:36.12 | nevcairiel | anyway, i think i should go sleep, its late |
| 23:36.19 | Gnarfoz | I don't want to go to sleep |
| 23:36.30 | Gnarfoz | it means I'll have to get up and go work afterwards! |
| 23:36.33 | nevcairiel | at least you're no longer at work fixing networks |
| 23:36.45 | Gnarfoz | (and I barely came home a couple of hours ago) |
| 23:36.49 | znf | what? fixing networks at work is fun |
| 23:36.51 | Gnarfoz | yeah, it worked in the end |
| 23:36.56 | znf | I want to do that for a living! |
| 23:36.58 | Gnarfoz | thanks to my stubbornness |
| 23:37.05 | Gnarfoz | become a network technician then |
| 23:37.21 | Gnarfoz | I'm considering specializing more in that area, too, tbh |
| 23:37.25 | Gnarfoz | seems interesting enough |
| 23:37.40 | znf | I can't seem to find a way to enter "oficially" in that area |
| 23:37.58 | znf | I don't have certifications, and I have no real experience with routing procotols, for example, just on the "private" level |
| 23:38.08 | znf | And nowhere to get a junior position for that in my area |
| 23:38.10 | Gnarfoz | why do you need offical anything? aren't you involved in running an ISP |
| 23:38.21 | Gnarfoz | well yeah, prepare to move |
| 23:38.27 | nevcairiel | sounded more like a bootleg isp |
| 23:38.39 | znf | yeah, we're pretty small |
| 23:38.42 | Gnarfoz | he lives in a bootleg *country* for crying out loud |
| 23:38.44 | Gnarfoz | :P |
| 23:38.50 | nevcairiel | true |
| 23:38.51 | znf | we mostly do WISP stuff now, though |
| 23:39.12 | znf | I do have experience with lots of crap and know my way around, just that it's nothing I could put on my resume :D |
| 23:39.21 | Gnarfoz | anyway, with just "I know stuff", no certs and no work experience in a sector, having to move for a position seems likely |
| 23:39.28 | Gnarfoz | (I had to move, too) |
| 23:39.35 | Gnarfoz | sure, put it all on your resume |
| 23:39.46 | Gnarfoz | + "autodidact" |
| 23:40.40 | Gnarfoz | it's still probably going to take a while ;p |
| 23:41.02 | Gnarfoz | better to find someone who knows someone who needs someone for something you can do |
| 23:41.13 | znf | BAH, Mikrotik's wiki is so useless sometimes, all the articles about redirecting non-paying users to a page involve the proxy feature... that much I figured out by myself, thank you! now give me a better solution >_< |
| 23:41.14 | Gnarfoz | AS A JOB, mind you, not "my friend needs help with..." |
| 23:41.20 | znf | Gnarfoz, I know that :P |
| 23:41.25 | znf | Gnarfoz, but I have no such friends |
| 23:41.31 | znf | I get thrown programmers jobs at me |
| 23:41.37 | znf | but I'm no programmer |
| 23:41.47 | Gnarfoz | ask them back if they don't need someone with networking skills |
| 23:41.55 | Gnarfoz | it's only fair, they're wasting your time, too! |
| 23:41.57 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 23:42.11 | znf | I am :P |
| 23:42.13 | Gnarfoz | is teh sleepy |
| 23:42.16 | Gnarfoz | k |
| 23:42.47 | znf | but small companies don't know they need a network guy :D |
| 23:42.59 | znf | and big companies... well, see certs :P |
| 23:43.48 | znf | I wouldn't have such a big issue moving. But entry level salaries are most likely not enough to even afford decent rent in Bucharest |
| 23:43.53 | Gnarfoz | there's medium companies, too |
| 23:43.54 | znf | or, maybe you can afford rent, but that's it :P |
| 23:43.55 | Gnarfoz | I work at one (: |
| 23:44.35 | Gnarfoz | I don't know enough about Romania to know if there's work outside of Bucharest, too |
| 23:44.46 | Gnarfoz | + salaries vary by region, of course |
| 23:45.18 | Gnarfoz | (still, if the job is in an expensive area, you might still have to settle for a cheaper place than you would like) |
| 23:46.12 | znf | Most companies are concentrated there, unfortunately. Sure, I wouldn't mind a job in another area, as long as the pay is enough to make a decent living... |
| 23:47.26 | znf | the problem with "cheap" places is that there aren't that many; everyone who owns a shitty place where the tiles fall of the walls and the carpet is the same age as my grandma thinks he can charge 250â¬++ / month (and utilities paid separately) |
| 23:48.15 | znf | I've unfortunately "been there" when I was younger and more adventurous. I feel dirty just thinking of the few places I staid :( |
| 23:48.33 | znf | Bucharest being as big as it is, also attracts the majority of students... |
| 23:48.37 | znf | So the demand for housing is huge |
| 23:50.47 | znf | oh, 100⬠for a 12m2 studio... I think my kitchen here is larger than that O.O |
| 23:53.32 | znf | Back when I was living there I surely had bad luck with shitty owners, too :-/ |
