| 00:00.19 | znf | the fuck is Windows 8.1 Bing |
| 00:00.48 | znf | Oh. |
| 00:00.49 | znf | wth |
| 00:02.47 | Gnarfoz | hey sb: remember this? http://haste.sbuehl.com/memuhijawe.tex -- now, with G.inp enabled --> http://haste.sbuehl.com/berudijepo.tex \o/ |
| 00:04.54 | Gnarfoz | znf: btw, when we ate East Germany, their infrastructure was really bad... so Deutsche Telekom put fiber into the ground there... but stuff that can't easily be used for FTTH... so they later ripped it out and replaced it with Copper again >_> and/or added EVEN MORE converters to make DSL possible (basically, outdoor DSLAM) |
| 00:05.13 | znf | they put multi-mode?! |
| 00:05.15 | znf | or what? :-| |
| 00:05.39 | Gnarfoz | wha? no, it's not like MM couldn't be used for fiber (well... distance limits :P) |
| 00:05.52 | znf | that's what I had in mind |
| 00:05.53 | Gnarfoz | they had weird active elements in there |
| 00:06.16 | Gnarfoz | their intention was... ISDN over fiber |
| 00:06.34 | Gnarfoz | so they only fed the lower 120 kHz back into the fiber net |
| 00:06.41 | Gnarfoz | because that's enough for ISDN |
| 00:06.49 | Gnarfoz | *scratches head* |
| 00:06.58 | Gnarfoz | I guess when you invent ISDN, you want to use it EVERYWHERE |
| 00:07.11 | Gnarfoz | (and... you suddenly can't imagine there ever being anything better) |
| 00:09.27 | Gnarfoz | hm, that's OPAL, but there was also HYTAS |
| 00:09.36 | Gnarfoz | fuck German telecomms history |
| 00:09.53 | Gnarfoz | HYTAS had bandwidth bottlenecks because it used http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plesiochronous_digital_hierarchy |
| 00:10.07 | Gnarfoz | ... never mind :D |
| 00:10.18 | znf | I don't even know what those things are |
| 00:10.21 | Gnarfoz | it's interesting, but way too much to translate from deWiki to here |
| 00:10.36 | Gnarfoz | (and there's 0000.0 enWiki pages about it) |
| 00:11.13 | znf | do people still use microwave for data transmission, I wonder? |
| 00:12.59 | Megalon | they ain't no transmitting data into my head *tipstinfoilfedora* |
| 00:14.34 | Gnarfoz | znf: uh... you yourself do it |
| 00:14.42 | Gnarfoz | my phone is doing it |
| 00:14.50 | Gnarfoz | almost everyone is doing it |
| 00:14.51 | znf | uhm, |
| 00:15.02 | Gnarfoz | Wi-Fi is microwave, as is GSM/UMTS/LTE |
| 00:15.14 | Gnarfoz | you probably meant something more specific, though |
| 00:15.17 | znf | I meant something more like BRS |
| 00:15.32 | znf | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multichannel_Multipoint_Distribution_Service |
| 00:16.32 | Gnarfoz | well, that article also answers your question |
| 00:16.33 | Gnarfoz | :D |
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| 00:22.58 | Gnarfoz | shame, new servers based on Haswell-EP are coming and we're probably not going to buy anything new for the foreseeable future :p |
| 00:34.09 | znf | no new toys for you |
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| 01:04.46 | Repo | pokedex: 03stencil * r235 (2 files in 2 directories): let users set their own values for default and maximum rank |
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| 01:05.58 | parnic_ | not hey fisker |
| 01:06.31 | Parnic | i feel better |
| 01:07.06 | znf | I tried to use "ok google" with my browser |
| 01:07.12 | znf | I ended up triggering my phone |
| 01:11.28 | znf | Stanzilla, why isn't "ok google" working in my chrome? :( |
| 01:22.04 | Gnarfoz | did they ever fix it? |
| 01:24.26 | znf | there's some new flag in dev |
| 01:33.30 | quiescens | o.o |
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| 01:58.52 | znf | windows doesnt' want to delete a font file |
| 01:58.54 | znf | even after 4 reboots :-/ |
| 01:59.09 | quiescens | you broked it |
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| 02:05.50 | Brybry | znf, I think that was a recent windows security update? |
| 02:06.02 | znf | not being able to delete fonts...?! |
| 02:06.13 | Brybry | fonts that are in use in a current session can't be modified |
| 02:06.16 | Brybry | or something |
| 02:06.29 | Brybry | and something related to that actually broke some installations and caused MS to pull the update |
| 02:06.55 | znf | oh |
| 02:08.45 | znf | thing is, it's not saying anything |
| 02:08.46 | znf | no error |
| 02:08.47 | znf | no nothing |
| 02:08.51 | znf | I click delete, nothing happens |
| 02:19.50 | Repo | ailo: 03stencil * r256 Ailo.lua: update start/end dates of seasonal events |
| 02:21.35 | znf | kind of complicated to reboot to safe-mode in Windows 8 |
| 02:22.02 | znf | finally, no more helvetica on my system |
| 02:22.05 | znf | helvetica blows |
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| 02:33.42 | Repo | pokedex: 03stencil 045.1.18 BETA 1 * r236 : Tagging as 5.1.18 BETA 1 |
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| 04:32.15 | Zhinjio | my goodness |
| 04:32.22 | Zhinjio | Some things never change |
| 04:32.28 | Zhinjio | *stretches* |
| 04:32.36 | Zhinjio | evenin' |
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| 04:37.28 | Zhinjio | Cairenn: hey there! |
| 04:37.52 | Cairenn | Zhinjio: hi stranger |
| 04:38.04 | Zhinjio | indeed. I don't even remember the last time I was in this channel |
| 04:38.25 | Cairenn | not to mention that I don't talk much in here |
| 04:38.55 | Zhinjio | well, sure. just pinged. |
| 04:38.59 | Cairenn | :) |
| 04:39.10 | Cairenn | It was just an observation :) |
| 04:39.20 | Cairenn | How are you doing? |
| 04:40.41 | Zhinjio | doing well, thanks! |
| 04:40.52 | Zhinjio | poking at the Netzorz with a stick |
| 04:40.59 | Cairenn | heh |
| 04:41.04 | Cairenn | careful, they bite |
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| 04:54.05 | Zhinjio | indeed. |
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| 06:37.12 | nevcairiel | hey draenor has a zone loading screen now |
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| 08:07.50 | Adirelle[work] | FP ruined me, I've tried (and probably succeeded) to write base64 en/decoder and (de)serializer using tail calls in Lua |
| 08:08.25 | Adirelle[work] | they would probably work, but given some data big enough, they would also fill the stack |
| 08:14.53 | sb | morning |
| 08:15.55 | sb | Gnarfoz: huh, that first url still works, interesting :D |
| 08:17.38 | sb | nevcairiel: as long as they didnt do another char reset :D |
| 08:17.52 | sb | need only 2 more levels |
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| 09:05.12 | sb | Stanzilla: extension button is in dev now - looks good |
| 09:05.55 | sb | nevcairiel: http://www.jetbrains.com/clion/ there is early access now :D |
| 09:08.20 | mitch0 | it's just as ugly as idea :P |
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| 09:22.52 | sb | so i have to tell my coworkers to use git extensions now :( |
| 09:23.55 | sb | because i can't tell tortoise to do a rebase-pull - and they suck in understanding they should use fetch+rebase before pushing their stuff |
| 09:24.04 | sb | "pull is easier, its just 1 button" - MEH |
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| 09:32.20 | Adirelle[work] | sb: by curiosity, why using fetch+rebase instead of pull ? |
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| 09:34.40 | EthanCentaurai | good morning o/ |
| 09:34.41 | sb | because it doesnt generate a new commit every time the user gets the new versions from the "central" repo |
| 09:35.31 | sb | so its more like fetch + fastfwd |
| 09:35.45 | Adirelle[work] | but it rewrite the history, which excludes any clever branch merging |
| 09:35.50 | Adirelle[work] | +s |
| 09:36.29 | sb | it only affects the local history |
| 09:38.10 | Adirelle[work] | I understand that fetch+rebase is the norm when working with pull requests, but I was always told to use pull/merge in every day use |
| 09:48.11 | sb | but it creates a merge every time the dev gets a new version from the server |
| 09:48.25 | sb | which isnt necessary in most cases |
| 09:48.35 | sb | because he could just do a ffwd + commit his stuff after that |
| 09:48.39 | sb | (rebase basically) |
| 09:48.42 | sb | and push the result |
| 10:03.19 | Adirelle[work] | that's kinda using git but using it as subversion |
| 10:03.34 | Adirelle[work] | s/but using// |
| 10:03.53 | Adirelle[work] | fail, you get it anyway |
| 10:09.46 | quiescens | hmms |
| 10:10.02 | quiescens | so there was an announcement on bnet, or at least on d3 |
| 10:10.17 | quiescens | or at least, it was yellow text, saying |
| 10:10.19 | quiescens | SYSTEM: We |
| 10:11.40 | Funkeh` | "...want a hug" |
| 10:12.07 | quiescens | could be |
| 10:12.17 | quiescens | it wasn't very specific |
| 10:13.10 | quiescens | in the absence of any evidence to the contrary, i find that funkeh`s guess is as good as any other, and is accurate until proven otherwise |
| 10:20.05 | sb | Adirelle[work]: we used svn before - cant get people to rethink everything :< "it was like this for x years, i dont know why/how to change it!" |
| 10:20.11 | sb | so this is the best i can get :D |
| 10:20.29 | sb | + merging is much less painful when handling multiple branches (couldnt do that with svn) |
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| 10:30.37 | quiescens | points at *foz |
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| 11:43.38 | Workfoz | hai guyse |
| 11:46.05 | quiescens | o/ |
| 11:46.43 | Fisker | hey Workfoz |
| 11:51.09 | Workfoz | I is wearing contacts |
| 11:51.21 | Workfoz | everything is bigger \o/ |
| 11:55.43 | Fisker | nice |
| 11:55.45 | Fisker | niiiice |
| 11:57.01 | Workfoz | a bit unusual ^^ |
| 11:57.34 | quiescens | o.o |
| 11:57.39 | quiescens | why are you waering contacts |
| 11:58.24 | Workfoz | to try them out |
| 11:59.10 | Workfoz | (this time from/with proper guidance from optometrist, not the half-assed attempt from a few months ago ;)) |
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| 12:02.37 | sb | meh, my eyes are teh broken - should get glasses, but cba to wear them / go to the opt.thingy |
| 12:03.41 | Workfoz | it's unavoidable in the end probably + depending on how bad it already is, it might even be risky to not get them |
| 12:03.50 | Workfoz | also, deal with it.gif |
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| 12:04.32 | Workfoz | actually being able to see properly for the first time in 15 years without glasses is quite amazing ^^ |
| 12:05.23 | sb | not sure if i could handle contacts though |
| 12:05.30 | sb | scares me :D |
| 12:05.34 | Workfoz | same |
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| 12:05.49 | sb | yes, deal with it - but lazy me :| |
| 12:05.49 | Workfoz | they are not really necessary, but you might find them more comfortable to wear etc |
| 12:06.11 | Workfoz | glasses are certainly easier to handle ^^ |
| 12:06.22 | sb | is it still "telling stupid chars/numbers"? or is there a way they do all the work? :p |
| 12:06.33 | sb | just by looking at your eyes |
| 12:06.38 | Workfoz | it's not about "telling", it's about telling if you can make them out |
| 12:06.50 | Workfoz | but yeah, they get very close to the interesting part automatically now |
| 12:06.52 | Workfoz | at least at Fielmann |
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| 12:06.58 | sb | good :D |
| 12:07.06 | Workfoz | look into computerized thingy, then fine tune the old fashioned way |
| 12:07.56 | Workfoz | there's always a bit of "yeah, this is better/worse than the previous" back and forth |
| 12:08.06 | sb | http://www.fielmann.de/brillen/weg-zur-brille/sehstaerkenbestimmung/ nice :D |
| 12:09.06 | Repo | raid_checklist: 03anyia3 * r225 RaidChecklist.toc: Preparing for WoD update. |
| 12:10.44 | Workfoz | the description on the site is accurate (the picture of the auto-refracto-majingy is from the operator's side, and the big "back and forth" thing with the hand in front of it is wrong, they use something more modern, like the text says) |
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| 12:11.42 | sb | so i should go there :| |
| 12:11.49 | Workfoz | I can't say I've had any reason to complain about Fielmann, but I haven't tried others, eitiher |
| 12:11.51 | Workfoz | -i |
| 12:12.38 | Workfoz | didn't even pay for these contacts (and the 2 pairs she gave me) \o/ |
| 12:16.03 | sb | oh? why? |
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| 12:26.41 | Workfoz | because they probably bank on me coming to them again when I decide to actually get some for real |
| 12:26.53 | Workfoz | (which is highly likely :P) |
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| 13:10.20 | znf | Tracking a package trough DHL is fun |
| 13:11.28 | znf | it's impressive how fast they move :D |
| 13:20.23 | Workfoz | I'm waiting for my explosive package |
| 13:20.28 | Workfoz | GLS tracking code is still invalid |
| 13:20.46 | Workfoz | they probably printed the label but only have GLS collect packages from them once a week because they ship low volume |
| 13:21.44 | quiescens | o.o |
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| 13:22.04 | quiescens | what are you trying to explode *foz |
| 13:23.09 | Workfoz | the dirt on/in my keyboard |
| 13:24.21 | SunTsu | Workfoz: I found Mr. Spex quite usable for contacts, their fast and prices really are OK |
| 13:24.30 | SunTsu | *they're |
| 13:24.53 | Workfoz | yeah, I'll have to look into providers for contacts then, if I'm going to use them more regularily |
| 13:25.08 | Megalon | are you now TERRORISM&VIOLENCEfoz? |
| 13:25.15 | Workfoz | I can always remember LinsenPlatz, I always forget Mr Spex :D |
| 13:25.21 | Workfoz | Megalon: have I ever not been? :o |
| 13:25.25 | quiescens | *foz is all things |
| 13:25.47 | Megalon | *foz all the things :< |
| 13:30.02 | SunTsu | Workfoz: I was like "I'll use my contacts only while <original reason to use them>" - now I'm like "Glasses? Meh" |
| 13:31.22 | Workfoz | that could happen |
| 13:31.49 | Workfoz | I'm constantly touching my face to adjust my glasses... which I'm not wearing |
| 13:32.22 | Workfoz | also, facepalming my forehead instead of my eyes |
| 13:32.23 | Workfoz | etc |
| 13:32.32 | SunTsu | Workfoz: just use the motion to facepalm. There's always a reason to facepalm |
| 13:32.44 | Workfoz | idd |
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| 13:32.50 | Workfoz | especially for Workfoz |
| 13:33.25 | Workfoz | buying a new keyboard is going to be just as meticulous an affair as buying a camera a couple of years ago |
| 13:33.29 | Workfoz | dat research |
| 13:36.27 | znf | classic romania |
| 13:36.34 | znf | package was shipped 24 hours ago |
| 13:36.45 | znf | made it's way from poland to germany to italy to romania |
| 13:36.53 | znf | and for the last 7 hours it hasn't moved from bucharest |
| 13:37.43 | Kalroth | they're checking the contents, maybe it's useful for the postal workers |
| 13:38.51 | znf | Only if they have a 525tds bmw... |
| 13:40.19 | SunTsu | znf: maybe they know someone who knows someone who has one |
| 13:49.12 | sb | Workfoz: i just ordered that mx "sample" thingy :D |
| 13:49.28 | sb | then i will decide if i go red or brown for the corsair k70 rgb |
| 13:54.06 | sylvanaar | nevcairiel: weren't you looking for a C IDE? http://www.jetbrains.com/clion/ Did anyone show you this |
| 13:55.22 | znf | https://i.imgur.com/5FqSMgP.gif the floor is lava :D |
| 13:56.44 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/45j6RSv.jpg the floor is lava? |
| 14:01.11 | sb | stop casting lava then |
| 14:01.13 | SunTsu | znf: reminds me of As Good As It Gets |
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| 14:11.04 | Semlar | i can't do that, sb |
| 14:18.43 | znf | damn it, users |
| 14:18.46 | znf | use more internet! |
| 14:19.01 | znf | I want to see if that youtube policy routing thingie works |
| 14:19.18 | sb | http://img-9gag-lol.9cache.com/photo/ae36M5b_700b.jpg uhm |
| 14:19.50 | znf | ew |
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| 14:30.41 | Stanzilla | oh hey, reddit has https now |
| 14:33.06 | sb | but no HSTS :p |
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| 14:34.12 | sb | and no 301 to https :( |
| 14:38.31 | Stanzilla | doesnt matter |
| 14:42.19 | znf | Workfoz, my youtube script on the router eats 35% CPU when it runs, is that good? :D |
| 14:42.37 | Workfoz | sounds good, at least you know it's working! |
| 14:42.38 | Workfoz | :D |
| 14:43.44 | znf | but damn users aren't cooperating :( |
| 14:43.50 | quiescens | kill tehm |
| 14:43.50 | znf | they don't use youtube right now |
| 14:49.55 | sb | why not policyrouting youporn then? |
| 14:50.00 | sb | stupid znf! |
| 14:50.10 | znf | damn you, that's a great idea |
| 14:54.23 | sb | also, what are you trying to do? why do you need different routes to youtube? |
| 14:55.14 | znf | sb, I have multiple connections on our main gateway |
| 14:55.18 | znf | and trying to spread the load |
| 14:56.05 | znf | atm it's much cheaper for us to get multiple connections than to get more bandwidth on our main one |
| 14:56.14 | Fisker | they do have hsts sb |
| 14:56.15 | Fisker | pls |
| 15:00.53 | znf | www.youporngay.com 31.192.116.24 CNAME 00:24:33 |
| 15:01.00 | znf | heh |
| 15:01.03 | znf | cool |
| 15:01.07 | znf | so it works |
| 15:03.18 | sb | Workfoz: https://play.google.com/music/m/Bvqv6zsnxkza5d2rlfbkxam3gii |
| 15:03.21 | sb | moer metals, but old |
| 15:05.04 | znf | sb, seems that my users are more of pornhub fans :P |
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| 15:17.08 | znf | https://cmd.fm/ |
| 15:20.46 | sb | err no, doesnt work at all |
| 15:22.12 | znf | works for me |
| 15:22.13 | znf | try |
| 15:22.16 | znf | "play chillout" |
| 15:22.25 | sb | i tried play heavy metal and it gave me hiphop :o |
| 15:22.49 | sb | because the song is tagged as #Heavy |
| 15:22.51 | sb | [...] |
| 15:22.59 | znf | ^^ |
| 15:23.22 | znf | seems kind of slow, though |
| 15:23.52 | znf | I like how it shows the comments trough the song, like soundcloud :P |
| 15:23.56 | znf | but in better, text only, format |
| 15:28.52 | Repo | elkfactions: 03elkano * r21 ElkFactions.lua: |
| 15:28.52 | Repo | update on PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD; should fix not displaying watched faction on login/reload |
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| 15:36.18 | znf | so, Fisker |
| 15:36.18 | znf | iFixit cracks open the Moto 360, finds smaller battery than advertised |
| 15:36.33 | znf | it's 20mAh! |
| 15:36.53 | quiescens | go to sleep znf |
| 15:37.25 | Workfoz | Stanzilla: huh, they had https for ages on that pay.reddit.com subdomain (not sure what that is, jerome's links were always pay.reddit.com) |
| 15:37.33 | znf | quiescens, no, bro, no. |
| 15:37.42 | Workfoz | and where does www.reddit.com have HSTS, Fisker? doesn't show for me |
| 15:37.51 | Workfoz | sb: I'll check it at home |
| 15:38.22 | Fisker | They wrote in the announcement you could set it as a preference Workfoz |
| 15:38.28 | Workfoz | sb: also, which sample thingy? from where? |
| 15:38.34 | Workfoz | a preference... what |
| 15:38.47 | sb | Workfoz: mx key sample |
| 15:38.50 | Workfoz | yes. |
| 15:38.54 | Workfoz | I meant which one. |
| 15:39.05 | sb | http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00I0VX4VS/ |
| 15:39.07 | Workfoz | there's different kinds from different manufacturers/shops :) |
| 15:39.21 | Workfoz | ah, MaxKeyboards, kk |
| 15:40.00 | Workfoz | I bought this one http://www.qwer.io/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/QWER8v2-Main.jpg |
| 15:40.33 | Workfoz | (because I'm considering "clear" ones, and the 4-key testers usually have the 4 "usual suspects" blue, brown, black, red (or maybe green instead of one of the others) |
| 15:41.42 | sb | i dont care, its brown, black or red :D |
| 15:41.52 | sb | or brown <> red |
| 15:45.30 | Workfoz | well I don't know what they feel like, yet :> |
| 15:45.44 | Workfoz | did I mention that Media Markt has exactly one mech keyboard here? |
| 15:45.47 | znf | Invalid Cacti version 0.8.8a, cannot upgrade to 0.8.7i |
| 15:45.49 | nevcairiel | That switch sampler is a neat idea |
| 15:45.51 | Workfoz | Steelseries 6G v2 with that weird layout |
| 15:45.52 | znf | the fuck is wrong with cacti |
| 15:46.13 | Workfoz | znf: upgrading to an older version... what - is it confused? :D |
| 15:46.21 | znf | cacti-0.8.8b.tar.gz |
| 15:46.51 | znf | so, why does cacti-0.8.8b.tar.gz report 0.8.7i internally? :-| |
| 15:48.08 | znf | removes all cacti things and starts over |
| 15:48.19 | znf | or, should I go for another monitoring app? |
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| 15:49.22 | znf | if so, which one? |
| 15:49.28 | Workfoz | if you can ask that question, you're probably not monitoring many systems? oO |
| 15:49.42 | Workfoz | also, probably someone fucked up and didn't increase the version number properly ^^ |
| 15:49.47 | znf | I'm not, I'm mostly interesting in graphic |
| 15:49.49 | znf | graphing |
| 15:49.54 | znf | on our main gateway |
| 15:51.32 | Workfoz | I guess the usual answer for that scenario would be cacti ^^ |
| 15:51.50 | znf | damn it |
| 15:51.52 | Workfoz | other systems can do that, too, probably, but I think cacti can do it out of the box pretty easily, not sure about others |
| 15:52.02 | Workfoz | basically anything that can graph rrd data :P |
| 15:52.07 | Workfoz | and there's loads of systems for that |
| 15:52.10 | znf | I don't really want to use cacti anymore |
| 15:52.17 | znf | I've always had weird issues when upgrading |
| 15:52.36 | znf | last upgrade before I tried this, my graphs were filled with blank periods |
| 15:52.41 | znf | even though the poller was working corectly |
| 15:53.23 | znf | anyone used zabbix? |
| 15:55.45 | Workfoz | yeah a long time ago, was horrible |
| 15:55.51 | znf | :-( |
| 15:56.00 | Workfoz | mainly the UI, and it was agent based then (no idea if it changed, I see it recommended often enough) |
| 15:56.51 | Workfoz | sb: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZefWenpWc4 :D or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEAF8XXAhUo - but I don't really want bright-anything, and I don't need backlight either, really... so... blank black thick PBT keycaps. find me them. :C |
| 15:57.11 | Workfoz | + http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/mechanical-keyboard/wasd-v2-105-iso-key-barebones-mechanical-keyboard.html |
| 15:57.36 | Workfoz | or maybe one of the regular MX keyboards that has the appropriate key type (yet to be determined ;-)) and then replace the caps |
| 15:58.00 | znf | Why do all these kind of projects have horrible interfaces? :( |
| 15:58.07 | znf | and seems to be rather stalled as a project |
| 15:58.20 | Workfoz | I should get some caps for the tester (or my current keyboard), so I can try out if ABS -> PBT -> Thick PBT really makes that much of a difference ("thick PBT" is being praised as "the bestest" regularily) |
| 15:58.38 | Workfoz | znf: because they're made by programmers who have literally 0 skill in UX design? |
| 15:58.46 | Workfoz | that's usually how it goes. |
| 15:59.03 | nevcairiel | how can caps make such a huge difference anyway o.o |
| 15:59.22 | znf | ...keyboard hippies :D |
| 15:59.39 | nevcairiel | what is it that they are "bestest" in, looks? durability? |
| 15:59.39 | Workfoz | nevcairiel: I'd paste more links, but it's Feierabend time |
| 15:59.47 | Workfoz | feel, sound, durability |
| 15:59.59 | znf | Hmm |
| 16:00.09 | nevcairiel | shouldnt most of the feel and sound come from the switches |
| 16:00.19 | Workfoz | ABS gets shiny quite quickly, and is produced with very thin borders usually since it's quite "stable" |
| 16:00.22 | znf | Does anyone know of a mobile application like a journal that is tailored for network techs? |
| 16:00.26 | Newton918 | key caps don't matter, real men wear the letters off any key caps in days :) |
| 16:00.28 | Workfoz | nah, you're not touching the switches with your fingertips ;P |
| 16:00.38 | nevcairiel | its all plastic! |
| 16:00.40 | znf | Something where you could enter "fixed antenna @ location" etc. ? |
| 16:00.41 | Workfoz | it is |
| 16:00.43 | Workfoz | but not the same |
| 16:00.44 | Workfoz | ;) |
| 16:00.56 | Workfoz | Newton918: pff :D good luck achieving that with dye-sublimated keycaps or double-shot keycaps :D |
| 16:01.02 | Workfoz | literally impossible on the latter |
| 16:01.14 | Newton918 | yeah, I know |
| 16:01.29 | Newton918 | but I've been using the same old keyboard for like 15 years, all the letters are gone and its still rolling |
| 16:01.39 | Newton918 | PS/2 even |
| 16:01.43 | Workfoz | /r/mechanicalkeyboards has lots of info |
| 16:01.45 | Workfoz | @ nevcairiel |
| 16:01.50 | nevcairiel | i dislike reddit |
| 16:01.54 | Workfoz | also, geekhack, deskthority and |
| 16:01.56 | nevcairiel | its like the armpit of the internet |
| 16:01.58 | Workfoz | one other that I forgot the name of |
| 16:02.02 | Newton918 | Reddit is too cool to be cool anymore.. |
| 16:02.11 | znf | weed out the subreddits you don't care |
| 16:02.13 | Newton918 | there's some cool stuff there, but the over the top stuff just drowns it out |
| 16:02.16 | znf | sub to the ones you care |
| 16:02.20 | Workfoz | sure, most people don't wear down keyboards if they're just using them and not spilling shit on them ^^ |
| 16:02.26 | Newton918 | too many subs to sub? :) |
| 16:02.39 | Workfoz | footlong sub |
| 16:03.13 | Workfoz | nevcairiel: they have a wiki http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/wiki/index |
| 16:03.44 | Workfoz | http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/wiki/keycap_guides#wiki_.2Acheck_here_for_handy_visual_reference_guides_for_most_major_keyboard_brands_.28.40wasd.29 keycap materials |
| 16:04.08 | Workfoz | not the most visually appealing wiki, to be sure :D |
| 16:04.21 | nevcairiel | like everything else of reddit |
| 16:04.24 | znf | the wiki is horrible |
| 16:04.30 | znf | not even RES can save it |
| 16:04.39 | Workfoz | that's unfair, subreddits can have their own CSS - some of them look amazing |
| 16:04.48 | Workfoz | compared to plain old black-on-white reddit |
| 16:05.48 | Workfoz | shame none of our work keyboards have MX keys |
| 16:05.50 | Workfoz | http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=56 :D |
| 16:06.24 | Workfoz | (also, white bg. I haven't used a non-black keyboard in 15 years!) |
| 16:06.30 | nevcairiel | man the beta leveling realm is broken |
| 16:06.38 | znf | today (this morning?) I realized the CompactFlash we have our main gateway on has been going strong for 7+ years |
| 16:06.56 | Workfoz | granted, some of the bi- or tri-color designs look quite nice - but I doubt I could look at it forever :p |
| 16:07.12 | Workfoz | znf: well if it's not being written to a lot, I doubt it'll give out soon |
| 16:08.19 | znf | I think I did a bit of wear&tear last night :D |
| 16:08.19 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/3YoRCeO.png |
| 16:08.54 | Workfoz | like this one http://www.geekkeys.com/vortex-bi-colors-doubleshot-thick-pbt-keyset-red/ not too bad for example (there's even better ones) |
| 16:09.25 | nevcairiel | why does it seem like there isnt really any market for that stuff |
| 16:10.06 | Workfoz | because that's just like... your opinion... man\ |
| 16:10.08 | Newton918 | The market is very niche... |
| 16:10.32 | nevcairiel | now imagine you want a set of keycaps in a german layout |
| 16:10.42 | znf | the costs for a mechanical keyboard are way too high for most users |
| 16:10.45 | Workfoz | not a problem usually, enough Germans around |
| 16:10.49 | Newton918 | Look at the page for the guy that's doing alot of the work on that mechanical keyboard wiki and tell me this guy isn't a niche of his own.. |
| 16:11.02 | nevcairiel | some of the pre-built mechanical keyboards dont even exist in german layouts |
| 16:11.09 | Newton918 | http://www.reddit.com/user/ripster55 |
| 16:11.23 | znf | I actually find it weird that you guys use the german layout on keyboards |
| 16:11.36 | znf | considering your programming/sys-admin/network etc. background |
| 16:11.42 | nevcairiel | what does it matter |
| 16:12.03 | nevcairiel | you get used to one layout, and using german is easier, since its setup everywhere :p |
| 16:12.04 | znf | dunno, we romanians mostly use US qwerty |
| 16:12.11 | nevcairiel | there is no advantage in using something else |
| 16:12.23 | znf | it's quite a surprise to find qwertz anywhere, even though that's our "official" layout |
| 16:12.23 | Fisker | so nevcairiel |
| 16:12.26 | Fisker | 45 minutes left |
| 16:12.43 | znf | and everyone is like, "why is this keyboard in romanian?!" |
| 16:13.07 | nevcairiel | so you guys all know the ascii sequences for the special characters in your language? :p |
| 16:13.44 | nevcairiel | Fisker: until what |
| 16:13.45 | znf | most people barely use them |
| 16:13.47 | Newton918 | What special characters? :) |
| 16:13.51 | znf | âÄÈÃ®È |
| 16:13.58 | Newton918 | Not in American English :) |
| 16:14.07 | nevcairiel | americans are boring |
| 16:14.11 | Newton918 | yes, sometimes |
| 16:14.25 | znf | we've been replacing them with their non-special variant since the 90's :P |
| 16:14.36 | Fisker | Until Apple invents a radio communication technology that works short distances nevcairiel |
| 16:14.43 | nevcairiel | Fisker: bluetooth? |
| 16:14.46 | Newton918 | that's why we have to steal umlauts letters to look badass |
| 16:14.52 | Fisker | that was a while ago nevcairiel |
| 16:14.54 | Fisker | shorter |
| 16:15.13 | nevcairiel | infrared? |
| 16:15.16 | Newton918 | NFC? |
| 16:15.17 | Newton918 | lol |
| 16:15.38 | znf | Just in the last ~4-5 years people have started using the special chars when they write stuff (like, bloggers, people who do social media for a living etc.) |
| 16:15.42 | nevcairiel | who is this new guy spoiling our trolling routine! |
| 16:16.01 | nevcairiel | man its been a while since i've seen some infrared thingy for PC |
| 16:16.04 | Fisker | infrared works on radio frequencies? |
| 16:16.12 | Newton918 | technically, yes |
| 16:16.33 | nevcairiel | what defines radio frequencies anyway |
| 16:16.34 | znf | The people I know who actually write using special chars (âÄÈÈî) are just using another layout called Romanian (Programmers); it's basically qwerty, but AltGr+qasti makes âÄÈÈî |
| 16:17.43 | Newton918 | sorry, radio might have been too specific, infrared is electromagnetic but not in the 'radio' frequency range :) |
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| 16:18.04 | znf | they're all frequencies! |
| 16:18.10 | nevcairiel | according to wikipedia, "radio frequency" is 3 kHz to 300 GHz |
| 16:18.33 | nevcairiel | infrared starts at 300GHz |
| 16:18.35 | nevcairiel | oh well |
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| 16:20.19 | znf | does the verge have a live text thingie this year? |
| 16:21.17 | znf | ah, there we go |
| 16:21.18 | znf | http://live.theverge.com/apple-iphone-iwatch-live-blog/ |
| 16:21.20 | znf | text > video |
| 16:22.46 | znf | >It does appear that there are a lot of fashion writers here. They are much better dressed than we are. There are scarves involved. |
| 16:22.48 | znf | huh |
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| 16:40.33 | Megalon | znf: http://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/2fviu5/images_of_apple_wearables_confirmed/ |
| 16:41.27 | znf | lol |
| 16:42.54 | Megalon | so, would you? |
| 16:46.17 | Newton918 | do those boxers (shorts?) say Nightclub.... I want to see the description on that item |
| 16:47.32 | znf | uhm |
| 16:47.35 | znf | question |
| 16:47.48 | znf | how do I make my damn browser output 5.1? :D |
| 16:49.27 | znf | oh, great |
| 16:49.41 | znf | built-in flash in chrome doesn't do 5.1 |
| 16:49.42 | znf | heh |
| 16:59.30 | sb | ok, brown |
| 17:11.57 | znf | >Ion-strengthened glass |
| 17:11.58 | znf | oh brother |
| 17:12.53 | znf | 1334 x 750 |
| 17:12.56 | znf | the fuck is this |
| 17:14.29 | Megalon | that's quite the resolution |
| 17:16.31 | znf | 2014 and still a pain to use 5.1 speakers in Windows |
| 17:17.22 | nevcairiel | Flash is not Windows |
| 17:18.20 | znf | sure, but Flash actually does resample |
| 17:18.24 | znf | just not the chrome version |
| 17:18.33 | znf | and seems that neither browser upsamples html5 audio |
| 17:19.20 | nevcairiel | They would just send the audio as is to windows, and upmixing is not something the browser should do |
| 17:19.57 | znf | So who should upscale in the case of stereo sources? |
| 17:20.09 | znf | the driver? |
| 17:21.01 | nevcairiel | I guess |
| 17:21.39 | nevcairiel | A browser is not a media player |
| 17:23.24 | znf | It's a piece of software designed to consume content... So why not? :) |
| 17:23.51 | nevcairiel | Because its not a media player |
| 17:29.40 | znf | mmm, yeah, the driver has some settings that *should* in theory upmix stereo to 5.1 |
| 17:29.53 | znf | but it ain't doing it :P |
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| 17:42.28 | znf | mmmm, yeah, I guess I should switch back to stereo to my speakers and let them do the upmix |
| 17:49.37 | Fisker | IT IS DONE |
| 17:49.44 | Fisker | APPLE INVENTED THIS NEW RADIO TECHNOLOGY CALLED NFC |
| 17:49.45 | Fisker | woo |
| 17:49.48 | Fisker | I mean apple pay |
| 17:49.49 | MysticalOS | what's NFC on an iphone. apple pay. /facepalm |
| 17:50.43 | Gnarfoz | [18:11:21] <znf> I actually find it weird that you guys use the german layout on keyboards <-- I don't \o/ I use a custom-made one based on US, with äöüà (and many others present on neither US nor DE) on AltGr |
| 17:53.13 | znf | Gnarfoz, so something like what I said (Romanian Programmers) |
| 17:53.42 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I saw that when I scrolled further down |
| 17:54.33 | Gnarfoz | oh god |
| 17:54.39 | Gnarfoz | did apple redefine VoLTE |
| 17:54.46 | znf | sort of |
| 17:54.48 | Gnarfoz | to mean something different than it has meant the last few years |
| 17:54.57 | Gnarfoz | fucking Apple |
| 17:55.42 | Gnarfoz | huh, those prices are on some US-typical carrier contracts, right |
| 17:55.51 | sb | yes |
| 17:55.57 | Gnarfoz | k |
| 17:56.11 | znf | c'mon, move one apple |
| 17:56.16 | znf | fuck your payment system, nobody cares |
| 17:56.19 | sb | so EUR prices with telekom |
| 17:56.58 | MysticalOS | the only thing i cared about was A8, everything else is "oh good so you caught up to the other guy" |
| 17:57.04 | znf | .ro price will be take USD price, convert directly to euro 1:1, multiply by 1.5, convert to RON at 120% exchange rate :D |
| 17:57.07 | Gnarfoz | who cares, only price I need to compare is the retail price |
| 17:57.13 | MysticalOS | 128gigs is kind of sexy too |
| 17:57.26 | Gnarfoz | only sexy because no sd card lulz |
| 17:57.41 | znf | oh my $deity so exciting |
| 17:57.42 | znf | wait |
| 17:57.47 | znf | he's gonna say watch |
| 17:57.49 | znf | fitness watch |
| 17:58.00 | Gnarfoz | if they didn't make you pay through the nose for that extra memory, I'd be fine, but they do. :p |
| 17:59.13 | znf | square display |
| 17:59.16 | znf | gtfo apple |
| 17:59.52 | MysticalOS | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:00.37 | quiescens | go sleep |
| 18:00.58 | MysticalOS | i would be asleep actually if i didn't get up for raid testing |
| 18:01.14 | quiescens | go back to sleep o.o |
| 18:07.59 | znf | 5/10, Tim Cook, 5/10... |
| 18:09.59 | quiescens | ? |
| 18:10.57 | Fisker | 5/10 bm znf ? |
| 18:22.48 | Timmeh | the word "Tim" pings me :-( |
| 18:22.48 | Fisker | tim |
| 18:22.49 | Timmeh | I was like "YAY I GOT A MESSAGE" |
| 18:22.57 | Timmeh | :-( |
| 18:23.08 | Timmeh | "FINALLY SOMEONE TALKS TO ME" |
| 18:23.13 | Timmeh | "ME SO POPULAR" |
| 18:23.19 | Timmeh | but none of the sort :-( |
| 18:23.55 | Gnarfoz | 9/9/14, znf |
| 18:24.05 | Timmeh | a/s/l? |
| 18:24.06 | znf | that's the date |
| 18:25.09 | quiescens | gives timmeh a cookie |
| 18:25.10 | quiescens | there there |
| 18:25.47 | MysticalOS | it's may 10th? |
| 18:25.51 | Gnarfoz | sb: good album |
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| 18:43.57 | znf | https://twitter.com/Oatmeal/status/509409983583113216 |
| 18:45.08 | MysticalOS | breaking news, apple invented wireless charging.... |
| 18:45.21 | Stanzilla | many windows updates |
| 18:45.30 | Fisker | when MysticalOS ? |
| 18:45.38 | MysticalOS | their comment |
| 18:46.20 | nevcairiel | probably entirely incompatible with Qi, since allowing users to use existing stuff is not the iWay |
| 18:46.25 | MysticalOS | It's simple to charge at night. We're using inductive charging that's simple and elegant. "It's something only Apple could do." |
| 18:46.33 | MysticalOS | ^ |
| 18:46.38 | MysticalOS | lol |
| 18:46.41 | nevcairiel | they really said that? |
| 18:46.46 | Gnarfoz | roflll |
| 18:46.58 | MysticalOS | i'm not impressed with a 350 dollar accessory that still requires an iphone to actually feed it |
| 18:47.08 | znf | who the fuck said that about only apple could do? |
| 18:47.16 | Gnarfoz | MysticalOS: I want to drown whoever came up with that line in a puddle |
| 18:48.20 | nevcairiel | speaking of, i should totally get a nightstand with the new Qi standard integrated, so the phone just charges when i put it on the nightstand anywhere :D |
| 18:48.54 | Gnarfoz | it's teh futuar |
| 18:49.07 | nevcairiel | i wonder if it can actually work that way |
| 18:49.23 | nevcairiel | ie. a giant area that charges your phone |
| 18:50.04 | nevcairiel | for my desk, i'm happy with googles charger, it works wonderfully |
| 18:51.28 | Gnarfoz | haha http://i.imgur.com/h583jhk.png |
| 18:52.03 | znf | https://twitter.com/Oatmeal/status/509412628192448512 |
| 18:52.19 | znf | nevcairiel, guess you could embed multiple coils into a nightstand? |
| 18:52.25 | znf | but you'll have to wait for the new standard :D |
| 18:53.06 | MysticalOS | icharger! |
| 18:53.45 | znf | erm |
| 18:53.48 | znf | I mean new Qi version |
| 18:54.12 | nevcairiel | yeah, only the new standard has enough range to be able to do it through a wooden surface |
| 18:54.58 | znf | most common MDF (I think that's whats it called in english) is 18 to 22mm |
| 18:55.03 | znf | so Qi 1.2 would do just fine |
| 18:55.22 | znf | wonder if there's a limit of how big (area) can a coil be |
| 18:55.30 | Gnarfoz | most definitely |
| 18:55.41 | Gnarfoz | well. |
| 18:55.52 | Gnarfoz | not if you can scale the device to be charged, too. :p |
| 18:56.06 | Gnarfoz | so if you want a nightstand-sized phone, you can feed it with one big coil ;) |
| 18:56.10 | nevcairiel | znf: well with new standard i do mean 1.2 |
| 18:56.15 | znf | nevcairiel, so do I |
| 18:56.19 | nevcairiel | good |
| 18:57.13 | znf | seems you can just stack multiple coils |
| 18:57.36 | SunTsu | Moar power! |
| 18:57.53 | SunTsu | grunts Tim Taylor style |
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| 19:26.29 | MysticalOS | http://9to5google.com/2014/09/09/htc-mocks-iphone-6-launch-via-twitter/ |
| 19:26.30 | MysticalOS | lol |
| 19:26.34 | MysticalOS | yes, apple deserved that one |
| 19:27.32 | MysticalOS | i'm still gonna stick to apple products, don't get me wrong. i hate android. However, apple toating innovation with a "catchup" device deserves some slapping :) |
| 19:29.39 | Gnarfoz | sb: |
| 19:29.42 | Gnarfoz | is now playing: Machinae Supremacy - Beyond Good And Evil |
| 19:29.53 | Gnarfoz | Google Music -> Fritzbox -> fb2k |
| 19:30.02 | Gnarfoz | a bit stupid ;) |
| 19:33.56 | Fisker | Of course they did MysticalOS |
| 19:34.02 | Fisker | Sadly HTC was dumb enough to sign away their rights |
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| 19:37.36 | Stanzilla | MysticalOS: why the android hate |
| 19:38.07 | Primer | fanboy |
| 19:38.41 | Stanzilla | yes he is :D |
| 19:39.34 | MysticalOS | android has terrible support, show me 3-5 year softare update support and we'll talk. the thing i know about my 5s, it will get ios 8 day 1, and 8.1, etc. android? depends on your manf |
| 19:40.32 | Neffi | OEMs have terrible support |
| 19:40.42 | MysticalOS | exactly |
| 19:41.09 | Neffi | It's partially Google's fault, but most of the blame lies in the companies that care more about turning out countless iterations to get you to buy the next best thing, than releasing a solid, stable product |
| 19:41.28 | nebula169 | is there anyone to port apple store purchases to google play or vis versa? |
| 19:41.32 | nebula169 | anything* |
| 19:41.50 | nebula169 | other than free apps do their own registration, of course |
| 19:43.45 | znf | looks at nebula169 |
| 19:44.53 | nebula169 | just saying, that's probably my biggest deterrent from switching devices, investing quite a bit in one app store |
| 19:46.17 | znf | ofc there isn't :P |
| 19:57.39 | Stanzilla | 700 euro for 16gb is just rude |
| 19:57.49 | Gnarfoz | https://cdn.mediacru.sh/1jP7R_nyZ4nb.pdf :D:D |
| 19:57.52 | Stanzilla | and charging 100/200 for memory upgrades only |
| 19:57.54 | Stanzilla | is rude |
| 19:58.11 | Gnarfoz | 58,063.82$ Dell R630 |
| 19:58.13 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: you build a cheap server there |
| 19:58.23 | nevcairiel | after discounts! |
| 19:58.30 | Gnarfoz | it's 1U and has... 2x E5-2698v3 (16C/32T @ 2.3 GHz), 768 GB RAM, 24x 400 GB 1.8" SSD RAID 10 |
| 19:58.35 | Gnarfoz | before discounts, obviously |
| 19:58.59 | nevcairiel | it already deducted the "instant savings", whatever that is |
| 19:59.20 | Gnarfoz | random number to make you feel better |
| 19:59.21 | Gnarfoz | no idea |
| 19:59.24 | nevcairiel | but that is one high densitiy machine |
| 19:59.39 | Gnarfoz | oh wait "discount details" ^^ |
| 19:59.54 | Gnarfoz | Special offer: Save 25% on select PowerEdge R630 servers through Dell Small Business!420040 |
| 19:59.56 | nevcairiel | fitting that much stuff into one 1U box is amaizing, 24 discs, even at 1.8" .. that must be packed |
| 20:00.19 | Gnarfoz | yeah, this one is the real news in the Gen 13 lineup from Dell |
| 20:00.44 | Gnarfoz | the 2U one (R730/R730xd) is really just more of the same, this one however is pushing it |
| 20:01.15 | Gnarfoz | string "a few" of these together and you can put a company's whole IT stuff on it (with vSAN shit) |
| 20:01.32 | Gnarfoz | crazy good for virtualization |
| 20:02.01 | Gnarfoz | I shall make my boss look that one up with our discount rate |
| 20:02.18 | Gnarfoz | (not sure if that'll work, Dell EU site still says "contact Dell" instead of "Configure now!") |
| 20:02.41 | znf | >768 GB RAM |
| 20:02.42 | znf | :-| |
| 20:02.51 | nevcairiel | 24 ram modules ftw |
| 20:03.05 | znf | that's more ssd space than I have :D |
| 20:03.15 | nevcairiel | hm does it say how much power it draws? |
| 20:03.28 | Gnarfoz | not more than 1100 W |
| 20:03.33 | nevcairiel | ah yeah, the PSU |
| 20:03.57 | Gnarfoz | I can actuall pick the 750 W PSU, too |
| 20:04.01 | Gnarfoz | so not more than 750 W |
| 20:04.12 | nevcairiel | even comes with embedded ESXi in flash memory, thats a nice addition |
| 20:04.17 | znf | why is X11 over SSH so damn f* slow? :-| |
| 20:04.23 | Gnarfoz | yeah, free option, that |
| 20:04.31 | Gnarfoz | because X11 is... not the most modern of protocols |
| 20:04.55 | nevcairiel | because running a desktop entirely over a network link was never the fastest thing in the world |
| 20:05.09 | znf | I'm only trying to run firefox :( |
| 20:05.13 | nevcairiel | RDP can dial down effects and compress stuff to hell if it needs to, with X11 over network.... not so easy! |
| 20:05.18 | Gnarfoz | haha ok I missed that, the R730xd has... a weird combo (in one of the configurations): 18 1.8" slots + 8x 3.5" :D |
| 20:05.38 | nevcairiel | if you need lots of storage in actual HDDs i guess? |
| 20:05.43 | Gnarfoz | X11 actually transmits stuff at a "draw a line from X,Y to A,B" right? |
| 20:05.55 | Gnarfoz | nah, for "lots of actual HDDs" there's the 24x 2.5" model ^^ |
| 20:06.17 | Gnarfoz | or 12+4+2 3.5" |
| 20:06.30 | nevcairiel | yeah, except that modern applications dont work like that, they draw themself from small bitmaps all over, which makes the network protocol inefficient |
| 20:06.31 | Gnarfoz | oh, the 24 is also 24+2 |
| 20:06.41 | Gnarfoz | (rear bays) |
| 20:06.53 | Gnarfoz | the +4 is "internal hotplug", wonder where they're placed |
| 20:07.08 | Gnarfoz | shit, does any EU alliance still need valor points |
| 20:07.12 | Gnarfoz | I totally procrastinated that :p |
| 20:07.29 | Gnarfoz | got distracted by (amongst others) shiny new servers ;p |
| 20:07.40 | nevcairiel | this was actually one week where i managed to fill my quota |
| 20:07.42 | nevcairiel | ask tomorrow again |
| 20:07.44 | znf | nevcairiel, what else could I use to run a remote application on my desktop? |
| 20:07.57 | znf | except remote protocols like vnc |
| 20:08.01 | nevcairiel | those |
| 20:08.04 | Gnarfoz | yeah I'll need to do it "next week", too, I could do it tomorrow |
| 20:08.10 | znf | meh |
| 20:08.30 | nevcairiel | i've been wondering if i'll still really need much valor |
| 20:08.33 | nevcairiel | item upgrades sure |
| 20:08.41 | nevcairiel | but if i can just upgrade everything with gold in a month.. |
| 20:09.15 | Gnarfoz | yeah I only need the upgrades, and our test raid thing is before the gold thing goes in |
| 20:09.26 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 20:09.40 | Gnarfoz | started too late, of course, won't be able to have 4/4 on all slots |
| 20:09.56 | nevcairiel | you can only get 4 upgrades per week anyway |
| 20:10.19 | Gnarfoz | sure, but I was sitting on 3k VP |
| 20:10.38 | nevcairiel | i should spend some justive on heirlooms or something, probably cheaper than using gold for it later |
| 20:10.42 | nevcairiel | justice* |
| 20:11.00 | znf | you have justice? |
| 20:11.04 | nevcairiel | 4000! |
| 20:11.37 | Xuerian | Stanzilla: ping pm |
| 20:12.49 | Gnarfoz | no sprinting in WoW |
| 20:12.51 | Gnarfoz | I has a sad |
| 20:14.25 | nevcairiel | be druid or rogue |
| 20:15.57 | Gnarfoz | or paladin |
| 20:16.04 | Gnarfoz | I meant like in Wildstar :P |
| 20:16.14 | nevcairiel | i know |
| 20:26.07 | Xuerian | Stanzilla: updated |
| 20:28.42 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: is it worth running the 1 dungeon that gives more VP? probably not, scenarios take less time? |
| 20:29.00 | nevcairiel | i dunno |
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| 20:29.22 | nevcairiel | heroic sz maybe |
| 20:30.29 | nevcairiel | i occasionally run a dungeon to get the reputation bonus, since i'm too lazy to do kirin tor offensive dailys |
| 20:30.31 | Gnarfoz | yeah, those I meant |
| 20:30.38 | Gnarfoz | hc sz vs hc dungeon |
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| 20:59.22 | Gnarfoz | 250 VP to go |
| 21:00.07 | Stanzilla | everyone just spams hc sz |
| 21:00.15 | Stanzilla | that's teh fastest |
| 21:00.26 | Gnarfoz | I get that impression, yeah |
| 21:00.47 | Gnarfoz | unless you're raiding anyway, that saves a bit of time |
| 21:01.03 | znf | still faster to do scenarios |
| 21:01.24 | Stanzilla | I just buy my VP on the timeless isle :D |
| 21:01.26 | nevcairiel | How much does a full flex clear give? I had the 1000 full but don't remember what I all did :) |
| 21:01.32 | Gnarfoz | you can do that? :o |
| 21:01.37 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 21:01.43 | Stanzilla | 3000 timeless coin => 100vp |
| 21:02.18 | nevcairiel | Faster to do sz then farming 30000 coins a week though |
| 21:02.42 | Gnarfoz | I have 150k |
| 21:02.46 | Stanzilla | I usually cap one char with scenario + raid |
| 21:02.52 | Stanzilla | then I get the +100% valor buff |
| 21:02.55 | Stanzilla | or whatever it is |
| 21:02.57 | Stanzilla | 50? |
| 21:03.06 | nevcairiel | doesnt help that i have a strong dislike for the isle |
| 21:03.07 | Stanzilla | then buy stuff and do the remaining shit with sz |
| 21:03.25 | Gnarfoz | doesn't hlep that I only have 1 char |
| 21:03.26 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
| 21:03.45 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 21:03.57 | nevcairiel | but you have points for 5000 valor! |
| 21:04.07 | nevcairiel | eh, coins |
| 21:04.08 | nevcairiel | whatever |
| 21:04.17 | Primer | I haven't pve'd in ages |
| 21:04.32 | Primer | I finally got my lock over 2k in RBGs though |
| 21:04.38 | Primer | but now everyone wants affliction, so I had to learn it |
| 21:05.53 | Stanzilla | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/337800-602-ptr-testing-has-begun/ |
| 21:05.55 | Primer | I had read that affliction wants haste, so I spend all my conq (I had over 10k) and honor (was capped) on a new set for haste, and it turns out mastery, which is what I had for destro, does WAY more damage |
| 21:06.04 | Stanzilla | The Mac Version of the PTR client is not working quite yet. We hope to have it working in the near future, but I do not have an ETA at this time. |
| 21:06.05 | Stanzilla | xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxd |
| 21:06.21 | nevcairiel | the 1% of users will surely be disappointed |
| 21:06.28 | Primer | speaking of PTR...I wonder if Torhal will ever come through on that beta key |
| 21:06.41 | Primer | well, PTR is open to all, right? |
| 21:06.44 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 21:06.47 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 21:06.55 | nevcairiel | i was referring to the number of p eople using macs |
| 21:06.56 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 21:06.58 | Primer | guess I'll use that to test my addons then |
| 21:07.02 | Stanzilla | that sending in your bnet mail and getting flagged never worked right |
| 21:07.05 | znf | Stanzilla, so what do we do? :( |
| 21:07.06 | Stanzilla | not on wowi and not on curse |
| 21:07.14 | Stanzilla | znf: wat |
| 21:07.17 | znf | Stanzilla, shadow :( |
| 21:07.19 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla: worked with that Random person that came here in june |
| 21:07.21 | Stanzilla | znf: reroll |
| 21:07.25 | znf | :-( |
| 21:07.26 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: yeah |
| 21:07.29 | Stanzilla | random > fan sites |
| 21:07.37 | znf | well, his name was Random |
| 21:07.39 | znf | and he had a fan site |
| 21:07.46 | nevcairiel | which was severly broken |
| 21:08.01 | Primer | I'm pondering making my lock be my main again. But that decision involves it being on a different realm. A low pop realm at that. |
| 21:08.02 | nevcairiel | i forgot the name though |
| 21:08.05 | nevcairiel | something with blue? |
| 21:08.23 | Primer | I've found that low pop realm guilds are WAY more cohesive. That players on high pop realms are fickle as fuck. |
| 21:08.23 | nevcairiel | Primer: its not unheard of to move a character |
| 21:08.43 | Primer | nevcairiel: it also involves me wanting to play that character more too |
| 21:08.50 | Primer | nevcairiel: since he was my first wow toon |
| 21:09.12 | znf | nevcairiel, bluepill or something |
| 21:09.29 | Primer | I've already paid the blizzard extortion several times to get toons moved over to high pop realms, only to have our raid fall apart due to lack of attendance...the exact reason why we moved |
| 21:09.56 | nevcairiel | znf: ah yeah thats it, but his website is s till broken, missing images and stuff :D |
| 21:10.17 | znf | heh |
| 21:10.39 | znf | still nice of him |
| 21:11.01 | nevcairiel | it was |
| 21:11.55 | znf | The Mac Version of the PTR client is not working quite yet. We hope to have it working in the near future, but I do not have an ETA at this time. |
| 21:11.56 | znf | lol |
| 21:12.01 | znf | sorry 1%-ers! |
| 21:12.09 | nevcairiel | you are so late |
| 21:12.17 | znf | :-( |
| 21:12.22 | nevcairiel | [23:06:04] <Stanzilla> The Mac Version of the PTR client is not working quite yet. We hope to have it working in the near future, but I do not have an ETA at this time. |
| 21:12.23 | nevcairiel | [23:06:20] <nevcairiel> the 1% of users will surely be disappointed |
| 21:12.25 | znf | I just saw the tweet now |
| 21:12.50 | Stanzilla | r.tard |
| 21:13.14 | nevcairiel | some guy on the forum complained that the WoD download will cost him $1000, because he pays per gigabyte downloaded |
| 21:13.34 | nevcairiel | how much does traffic cost if you pay $1000 for a few gigabytes of content o.o |
| 21:13.56 | Primer | Guess he'll have to wait for the DVD |
| 21:20.42 | znf | whos fault is that? :D |
| 21:21.00 | znf | (for paying by gigabyte) |
| 21:23.05 | Gnarfoz | dang |
| 21:23.10 | Gnarfoz | of course I was hasty :( |
| 21:23.36 | znf | socket APIs suck :( |
| 21:23.44 | Gnarfoz | I just realized I could just dissolve my tank set because I probably won't need to tank in that 25 man test raid |
| 21:23.55 | Gnarfoz | could have made a best-of set and then upgrade items that are in it |
| 21:23.56 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 21:24.21 | znf | I think it's easier to get the data I need by doing ssh commands and capturing the export rather than using their socket api thinig |
| 21:24.23 | znf | :-/ |
| 21:24.25 | Gnarfoz | (including re-gemming/enchanting/reforing the tank set items to stuff that doesn't make sense for tank, but makes them better/great for dps) |
| 21:24.54 | Gnarfoz | anyway, good to know that I can buy VP... means I can upgrade two more items |
| 21:25.15 | sb | Gnarfoz: how? |
| 21:25.47 | Gnarfoz | by being able to buy 1000 VP between getting home from work and raid start, but not being able to farm 1000 VP in that time |
| 21:26.24 | sb | (music fritz) |
| 21:26.30 | Gnarfoz | oh |
| 21:26.36 | Gnarfoz | beta firmware |
| 21:26.50 | Fisker | Of? |
| 21:27.21 | Gnarfoz | Fritz!Box (router) |
| 21:27.32 | sb | Mediaserver: Unterstützung des Google "All Inclusive" Musik-Abo-Services |
| 21:27.32 | sb | ah |
| 21:27.41 | sb | how...? |
| 21:27.43 | sb | gmusicapi? |
| 21:27.49 | Gnarfoz | I have no clue |
| 21:27.51 | sb | afaik there is no other way |
| 21:28.19 | Gnarfoz | look at their source code stuff, no idea if that's available for the lab firmware |
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| 22:11.48 | Stanzilla | http://online.wsj.com/articles/microsoft-near-deal-to-buy-minecraft-1410300213 |
| 22:13.50 | znf | wat |
| 22:13.53 | znf | O.O |
| 22:13.54 | znf | :o |
| 22:18.38 | Gnarfoz | k, garrosh normal also done (of course, nothing + bonus gold) |
| 22:23.09 | znf | whoever designs password forms that require at least a char like !@#!@*#!@_#! |
| 22:23.12 | znf | can suck a big fat dick |
| 22:30.39 | znf | our local domain authority has the most retarded system I ever used to register and maintain domains |
| 22:30.40 | nebula169 | i hate password forms that require only alphanumeric |
| 22:31.44 | znf | yup, be fuckin' flexible :-| |
| 22:31.49 | znf | require a longer password, eventually |
| 22:32.09 | znf | but requiring a capital letter, a symbol and a number is just... freakin' annoying |
| 22:33.12 | znf | so, our local register (rotld.ro) |
| 22:33.19 | znf | most. retarded. system. in. the. whole. world. |
| 22:33.30 | znf | each domain has its own account |
| 22:33.41 | znf | so if you registered multiple domains, you can't manage them easily |
| 22:33.59 | znf | each change (dns, mail etc.) must be confirmed by a key that you receive by e-mail |
| 22:34.12 | znf | there's no such thing as a link that you click |
| 22:34.23 | znf | you actually have to logon, to to the form, enter the key you get by email |
| 22:34.31 | znf | there's no such thing (anymore) as a "tech" contact |
| 22:34.57 | znf | so to do some modifications, you actually have to have the owner of that domain close to you so he can respond in real time |
| 22:38.03 | SunTsu | znf: The only thing really annoying is password fields that try to disallow pasting. Everything else a password manager can handle |
| 22:38.42 | znf | I don't really like the concept of password managers |
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| 22:39.55 | znf | Sorry, I mean, the concept is great, the implementions not so |
| 22:43.00 | SunTsu | znf: I like KeePass, it's cross platform, has great password management tools like "Create a password following the same rules the existing one adheres to", there's plugins to e.g. decrypt the password file using OTP only, it can do autotyping and so on |
| 22:43.33 | znf | how's the flow on mobile? |
| 22:44.46 | SunTsu | never used it for that, don't need it there, I just know that there are mobile clients |
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| 22:45.37 | SunTsu | my otp token I use for keepass doesn't support nfc either, would be a real PITA to enter it manually after reading OTPs on a separate device |
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