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01:28.04GnarfozAdirelle: pretty "mellow" album, nice though
01:29.28znfnevcairiel, not a spin-off
01:29.32znfnevcairiel, just in the same universe! :P
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01:31.52quiescensmoo
01:38.24Repolittle-wigs: 03funkydude * r1104  (23 files in 5 directories): ShadowmoonBurialGrounds: Import.
01:44.09Stanzillanevcairiel: http://9to5mac.com/2014/09/05/dell-announces-27-inch-5120x2880-display-foreshadowing-a-possible-future-retina-imac/
01:55.05GnarfozMac believers will spin everything to fit their agenda!
01:56.36quiescensthere seems to be an increasing number of security breaches based on security questions or similar ways of handling "lost" passwords
01:57.48quiescenssurely it was always a bit silly to "protect" passwords which (tend to) require people to use a fairly long combination of numbers and upper/lower case, etc, by having secret questions like "what is your dog's name"
01:57.52quiescenso.o
02:01.14Repobig-wigs: 03funkydude * r11927  (63 files in 11 directories): -EOL-style: native
02:01.15Repo-Prep to move common locale
02:04.17Repobig-wigs: 03funkydude * r11928 / (20 files in 2 directories): Move common locale to core addon.
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02:13.38Repobig-wigs: 03funkydude * r11929 Core/BigWigs_Core.toc: Actually load the common locale.
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02:37.27Repobig-wigs: 03funkydude * r11930 / (10 files in 3 directories):
02:37.29Repoadd "Trash" common locale entry for naming trash modules where they are needed.
02:43.32Repolittle-wigs: 03funkydude * r1105 / (35 files in 10 directories): cleanups
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03:35.09pompy1Parnic: http://38.media.tumblr.com/6b8a3f392fc3b9ceec541096e0790c23/tumblr_nabfb9ZlVw1skkt6fo1_500.jpg :P
03:35.32Parnic:)
04:37.45Stanzillanebula169: I somehow remember that you had a custom cmd shortcut to elevate it to an admin one, how did you do thatß
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04:53.43Repobig-wigs: 03Wetxius * r11931 Highmaul/ (9 files in 1 directory): Removed unnecessary string of localization.
05:03.56Repobig-wigs: 03Wetxius * r11932 Highmaul/ (9 files in 1 directory): Removed outdated strings of localization.
05:48.50Fiskerhey Stanzilla
05:49.02Stanzillahi
05:53.41FiskerI once heyed a guy
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06:18.33Stanzillacontinue heying that other guy then
06:18.43nevcairielgood morning
06:20.00nevcairielznf: thats what called a spin-off! they are just spinning off the zombies, instead of the living!
06:25.53nevcairielare addons in the beta still kinda broken, or did they somehow fix it when i didnt look?
06:33.47Fiskerhey nevcairiel
06:33.55FiskerStanzilla told me to hey you
06:34.03nevcairielhey Fisker
06:37.20nebula169Stanzilla: ele
06:37.58nebula169http://winaero.com/comment.php?comment.news.24
06:39.47FiskerI'm tired nevcairiel
06:39.56nevcairielFisker: me too, i woke up way too early
06:40.07Fisker:(
06:41.54Fiskerwanna blow up germany nevcairiel ?
06:42.02nevcairielnah, i live here
06:42.15FiskerYou can move
06:51.05Repoace3: 03nevcairiel * r1112 AceGUI-3.0/widgets/AceGUIWidget-ColorPicker.lua:
06:51.05RepoAceGUI-3.0: ColorPicker: Raise the frame level of the colorpicker to ensure its always above all AceGUI widgets
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07:24.39AdirelleGnarfoz, yep, the album is good in itself, but I prefer the previous style of Opeth anyway
07:44.20Fiskerso nevcairiel
07:44.41Fiskerlets steal those dell 5k's
07:45.24nevcairieli dont like MST :(
07:47.42FiskerBut I like you :(
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08:54.47Repobig-wigs: 03Wetxius * r11933 Highmaul/Locales/ruRU.lua: ruRU update.
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09:08.27ShirikKalroth: haste: I win: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10100398292366098&set=a.793325986598.2196893.39704112&type=1
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09:35.32Kalrothfilthy greenie!
09:37.21ShirikKalroth: http://i.gyazo.com/09b63dcd4d4063f28768c9068fa04e27.png
09:37.41Shirikwhy bother with controlling the town when you can completely surround it?
09:38.26Shirik(for reference, that's probably about 200 miles across)
09:38.37Shirikmaybe more like 150
09:38.40Shiriksomewhere in there
09:40.46Kalroth:(
09:41.49Shirikif it makes you feel any better
09:41.54Shirikresistance is winning the global game
09:42.01Shirikas always
09:42.31Shirikand it's not even close
09:42.37Shirik260M to 478M
09:48.28Repoadibuttonauras: 03Adirelle 07master * 1.7-41-g1898793  (23 files in 4 directories): [+9 commits] (5 truncated)
09:48.28Repo1898793: Fixed a typo in Config.lua.
09:48.28Repo26858fe: Added an option to select the highlight texture.
09:48.28Repo1494091: Merge remote-tracking branch 'arcadepro/border'
09:48.28Repo36f4070: Fixed RuleDSL.lua globals.
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10:18.32znfWhich genious had the "brilliant" idea of removing the refresh button from the address bar in Chrome on Android? :-|
10:24.47Repoadibuttonauras: 03Adirelle 07master * 1.7-42-gf65e085  (23 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Renamed highlight textures to be more descriptive.
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11:42.46sbhey
11:47.36FiskerToday is the day
11:55.20sbwhich?
12:07.58Kalrothwhen the world ends
12:11.37FiskerI wish
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13:02.08Fiskeranyway sb android l statue
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13:14.51AdirelleI have a question related to auras and caching
13:15.42Adirellecontext: bascilly AdiButtonAuras handles independant rules. most rules imply to scan all the auras of a unit to find one or more specific aura
13:16.09nevcairielif youre after a specific aura, you can query them by name
13:16.13Adirelleso if, there is 12 active rules on the player, all the  auras would likely be scanned 12 times
13:16.45Adirellenah, because some auras have the same name, but they aren't related the same spells
13:17.16Adirellethat's what InlineAura did, and why I abandonned it in favor of finding auras by their spell ids
13:19.20Adirelleso I tried set up some aura caching with metatables
13:19.54Adirelleafter a 2 minutes test on a training dummy with my hunter, it has a 83% hit rate.
13:20.12Adirellebut I'm still not sure it worths the mess
13:23.05Adirellethe code is there : https://gist.github.com/Adirelle/423e5b1f9857a7412a42
13:23.52Adirelleit recycles the tables, and provides an aura iterator (which can be done without the cache, I know)
13:24.36Adirelleit handled 20931 "queries", had 3470 misses, for 257 UNIT_AURA events
13:25.28nevcairielseems quite complicated
13:25.43nevcairielare you always doing the lookup for the spell id?
13:26.01nevcairielif so, you could just build an assoc cache with that as key and skip all the complex stuff
13:26.17Adirellemost of the time, but I also have case when I'm looking for the longest/first buff of an spell set
13:27.25Adirelle(this thing is experimental, I haven't commited it yet)
13:28.34nevcairielsomehow that reminded me that i need to fix my hot tracker, its already widely out of date for MoP, should at least make it work with WoD again :D
13:29.52Adirelleerm... what's anoying is that, with filters that do not include "PLAYER", there is a possibility that the target has the same spell from differents players (e.g. there is several druids in the raid)
13:30.44nevcairielsure
13:41.48Adirellewell, if I write and use more specific functions like 'FindAuraByName' and 'FindAuraById' instead of a generic UnitAura, there is more room for doing specific optimization, if nedded
13:48.18znfcomming soon to an addon near you
13:48.26znfAdirelle's unit caching thingie
13:48.29znfaura*
13:59.29SemlarAdirelle: just so you know, the same spell can have several different spellIDs
13:59.44AdirelleSemlar, I know
13:59.59Semlarit makes it super annoying trying to tie an action button to an aura
14:00.07Semlarso i just use the name
14:02.06Adirellemost of the time, when a spell has several ids, it is because it does not have exactly the same effect, or is not affected by aura the same way
14:02.15Adirellethe same goes for buffs
14:03.01Adirellee.g. druid's clearcasting buff has several ids, depending on the spec, but each does not have strictly the same effect (IIRC)
14:03.28Semlarwell, my addon treats buffs that do the same thing as the same buff so i can show the duration of kings on my action button for mark of the wild
14:04.18Semlari originally used spell ids, but after encountering several different spell ids for the exact same buff i just switched to the name
14:04.32Semlari don't know if they were talented or what
14:05.05Semlari just know it wasn't worth trying to figure out every spell id for the same spell
14:06.09Adirellewell, raid buffs are special kind of spells, each one provides one or two effects, that can overlap with one of two other raid buffs
14:06.31Semlarthat's true
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14:07.16Semlarif you want to do it right you have to keep track of all of the effects of the buff separately
14:08.12Semlari only gave each buff one effect so it wasn't a perfect solution
14:08.59Semlari think i just picked the effect that was least likely to be provided by a different buff
14:10.55Semlari just wanted to make it so if i already had something like dark intent from a warlock i knew i wouldn't need to cast fortitude on my priest
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15:27.34quiescens):
15:28.30Megalonwhy so sad quiescens
15:28.34Megalondid you died again?
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15:32.34Repobig-wigs: 03ananhaid * r11934 / (4 files in 2 directories): - zhCN/zhTW update.
15:40.20AdirelleSemlar, that's why I start building this: https://github.com/Adirelle/LibPlayerSpells-1.0
15:42.12Adirellestarted*
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16:37.56nevcairieloh i didnt notice that nelf female faces are in the beta now
16:38.05nevcairieli'm not sure i still like my nelfs face though :(
16:38.34TorhalEnd: ping
16:39.47nevcairieli still wish they would give you one free customization after the model change
16:39.47Endyes hello
16:40.04TorhalEnd: Any plans for LibPetJournal in WoD?
16:40.25Endmy account wasn't active when I applied for beta and I hadn't gotten around to trying again
16:40.39TorhalDid you apply via Blizzard directly?
16:40.44Endno
16:40.47TorhalOk.
16:40.52Endthrough wowi
16:41.00TorhalAh, you should be in, then.
16:41.13EndI'm not, and if I read more closely it did say I needed to have an active account
16:41.17End(it's active now though)
16:41.18nevcairielPTR is otherwise coming soon, if all you need is API
16:41.21Endyeah
16:41.29EndI was thinking of waiting for PTR at this point
16:41.50nevcairielshould be within a week or so, IIRC
16:43.17nevcairielGnarfoz: you are right btw, now that i'm on a bigger and better screen again, i can still see minor aliasing in WoD, although  CMAA is already quite a lot better than any of those two FXAA modes
16:43.58nevcairielthey did want to write a tech blog about that ...
16:45.39quiescensi've never been particularly fussed about aliasing except when it causes an edge to flicker
16:46.00nevcairielflickering is usually more of a texture problem
16:46.21nevcairielaliasing is pretty stable otherwise
16:46.31nevcairielunless the object or the camera moves of course
16:46.50quiescensits moving of course
16:47.18quiescensslow enough that you can tell the difference between the aliasing of one frame and the the next
16:47.27nevcairielyeah thats annoying
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17:30.52nevcairielStanzilla: go come flex!
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18:36.27Fiskerhey nevcairiel
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19:22.51Reporecount: 03Resike * r1269  (3 files in 1 directory):  (1 line trimmed from commit message)
19:22.52Repo- Enabled sync for connected realms.
19:22.52Repo- Enabled sync in battleground.
19:22.52Repo- Localization fix.
19:22.52Repo- Some other minor fixes.
19:25.43Fiskerhey Stanzilla
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19:34.54Reposetcollector: 03lomiedo * r15 Core.lua: Correct previous selection bug (Ticket #6)
19:36.50Reposetcollector: 03lomiedo 04v1.1.2 * r16 : Initial Release
19:39.17Stanzillahey Fisker
19:43.42FiskerHey
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21:09.08Repobig-wigs: 03MysticalOS * r11935 Loader.lua: Properly handle gladiator warriors in Rolecheck
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21:10.59nevcairielstupid garrosh, sure could've given me a nice heirloom now that I do him in normal mode for the first time, and probably the last as well. :P
21:14.06MysticalOScould be worse, you could do 25 heroic kills and still need one :)
21:15.45nevcairielsince i dont have any at all yet, i should get a normal kill in after the 6.0 patch to get the guaranteed drop at a higher quality
21:16.38MysticalOSyeah. just a shame the whole system is flawed for any dual wielder
21:16.52nevcairielscrew that, i just want the caster staff
21:17.10MysticalOSthat is easy
21:17.14nevcairieli did get shoulders off garrosh though, so it wasnt a total waste
21:18.27nevcairielconsidering any random pug would probably consider me widely undergeared for normal mode
21:19.30znf<nevcairiel> screw that, i just want the caster staff
21:19.34znflaughs at nevcairiel
21:19.37znfyou'll get a mace
21:19.52nevcairieli have loot spec set to balance
21:19.55nevcairielthat should help!
21:21.55znfmy shitty speakers have developed a buzzing
21:21.57znflike ground loop
21:22.03znfhow does that even happen, I wonder
21:26.06Stanzillanevcairiel: where did that normal id come from btw
21:26.11StanzillaI was asked to help
21:26.12nevcairielno idea
21:26.13Stanzillabut d3
21:26.19nevcairielyeah we were lacking a 10th for a bit
21:26.27nevcairielone of them guys just had it
21:26.57Stanzillaok
21:27.27nevcairielthe slightly more challenging fight totally made me want to raid at least on that level again though
21:28.32Stanzillawho tanked?
21:29.23nevcairielas if i know their names
21:29.24nevcairieltwo druids
21:29.50Stanzillacharacter names would work :D
21:30.35Repobig-wigs: 03nebula169 * r11936 Loader.lua: Loader: cleanup
21:30.46nevcairielAyunia and Corain
21:31.15Stanzillacorain worst tank universe!
21:33.16Gnarfozhttp://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/deals/the-galaxy-class-keyset/ :|
21:34.01nevcairielthats so weird
21:34.15GnarfozI think you misspelled "awesome"
21:34.31nevcairielyour smily didnt say awesome to me
21:34.38nevcairieland no, its more weird then awesome
21:34.43Gnarfoz:| because it's long over ^^
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22:21.44FiskerThe happening didn't happen Stanzilla
22:21.58FiskerAlso one marauder piece from 6 set
22:24.39Stanzillagz!
22:26.01FiskerI wanted the happening to happen
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23:13.34Repoarl-inscription: 03resa1983 07master * 5.4.8.2-1-gb7fe681 Recipes.lua: [+1 commit] Fix Ticket 1634 - Glyph of Enduring Deceit BoP not BoE
23:18.51Repoarl-tailoring: 03resa1983 07master * 5.4.8.2-1-g1e7709f Recipes.lua: [+1 commit] Ticket 1 - High Society Top Hat recipe never made it in game - the hat itself drops Blingtron
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