IRC log for #wowace on 20140905

00:11.00TorhalMysticalOS: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=296274#post296274
00:15.54nebula169how does VEM exist? isn't dbm ARR?
00:17.55Neffinebula169: "License: Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0"
00:17.57nebula169ah, cc by-nc-sa ouch
00:18.09NeffiNot sure if all of it's CC. Some parts might be ARR
00:18.46TorhalNeffi: He's making WoD encounters ARR.
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00:38.09MysticalOS^
00:38.30quiescenso.o
00:38.50znfThat Lenovo smartphone is interesting
00:39.05znfWell. The battery part is
00:39.29quiescensgo to slee
00:39.30quiescensp
00:39.35MysticalOSVEMs code makes me :o
00:40.11nebula169because dbm is so clean :p
00:41.23znfBuuuuurn
00:41.45Neffiznf: I see nothing special about a battery. What do you mean?
00:42.17znfThe battery layer
00:42.33znfLenovo VIBE X2 Tour: http://youtu.be/4y6PqQ1JnIA
00:42.38NeffiYou mean the fact that it's differently colored?
00:43.38znfNo
00:43.42Neffi"World's first layered smartphone" is hyperbolically gimmicky, but it's certainly an attractive design
00:43.42znf0:43
00:44.08NeffiAh, I see.
00:44.28MysticalOSDBM has come a long way in last year, not perfect but still.
00:44.43MysticalOSand VEM, has gone in the opposite direction since branching
00:44.49MysticalOStaking already bad code and then going worse
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06:39.59sbFisker: http://stadt-bremerhaven.de/ifa2014-motorola-moto360-smartwatch/
06:40.22sb250eur, mid October in Germany
06:45.05nevcairielhey Stanzilla, do you know if there is a flex raid this weekend? otherwise I might try the group finder
06:56.10nevcairielsomeone remind me, how did lockouts work in wrath? can i do both 10 and 25 of the same raid in one week?
07:01.18sbwrath? i think so, yes
07:01.24sbi remember doing LK in 10s and 25s
07:02.06nevcairielmaybei t was different for LK then
07:02.16nevcairieli did sartarion or how he is called in 10m, and he is dead in 25 too
07:02.32nevcairielbut at least i got the 10m mount
07:03.30sbGnarfoz: nice
07:03.47sbGnarfoz: also https://play.google.com/music/m/Bfepr7jvnedxz6rhtvvlperkpqe
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07:12.38Fiskerhey sb
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07:25.20sbFisker: i think moto360 > LG thingy :|
07:25.29Fiskernah
07:30.01sbdid you see lg pics?
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07:31.57sbdisplay could be too small
07:32.01sband no qi :(
07:39.57FiskerI did see it sb
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08:55.19Workfoztoday: Gedünstetes Seelachsfilet "Orly mit Tomatenragout und Kräuterreis
08:55.21Workfozorly?!
08:55.40quiescensmoo
08:56.30nevcairielWorkfoz: it means "In Bierteig gebacken"
08:56.36Workfozyeah yeah
09:00.04sbinteresting
09:00.27Workfozsb: https://play.google.com/music/listen#/album/Bfepr7jvnedxz6rhtvvlperkpqe/In+Flames/Siren+Charms
09:00.28nevcairiel4K was last year, its 5K now! http://www.anandtech.com/show/8496/dell-previews-27inch-5k-ultrasharp-monitor-5120x2880
09:00.29sb"Rösti mit Fruchtsalat und Apfelmus" :|
09:00.37sbWorkfoz: [09:03:47] <sb> Gnarfoz: also https://play.google.com/music/m/Bfepr7jvnedxz6rhtvvlperkpqe
09:00.43Workfozmeh
09:00.48sbgreat album
09:00.50WorkfozI don't see that at work =)
09:01.04Workfozhow's the quassel web thing coming? usable?
09:04.10Workfozhm
09:04.26sbno idea if there were any updates
09:04.31Workfozlogging into my vmware just leads me here https://my.vmware.com/group/vmware/dynaTraceMonitor and the only output is "FL(Webserver)"
09:04.33Workfozthat seems broken
09:04.35sbbut it wasnt usable at that point
09:04.48sbworked fine some minutes, then lost all backlog/messages
09:04.50sband you had to reload
09:05.27Workfozhm
09:05.34Workfozcan you give me the URI again, I don't think I starred it
09:06.16sbhttps://github.com/magne4000/quassel-webserver
09:06.46sblast no updates to web / libquassel :|
09:06.51sb(1-2 months ago)
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10:02.20sbWorkfoz: https://play.google.com/music/m/Tp7qsaf36acx7afthr6vue2ptqy is awesome
10:06.19sbFisker: moto360 battery will be "< 1 day" :|
10:06.26Fiskero l d
10:06.42Fiskergwar gonna master race it
10:06.48sbso LG then :D
10:09.13Fiskeryes
10:09.13sbdoes it have any additional sensors? heart rate or something like that :D
10:09.13sbalso, wtf "DELL ULTRASHARP 27 ULTRA HD 5K"
10:09.13Fiskeralso le old
10:09.13sb5120x2280
10:09.14Fiskerhas optical heartrate monitor yes
10:10.23Stanzillanevcairiel: saturday afaik
10:11.06nevcairielStanzilla: I assume its usually not full that poor non-raid members can join? :p
10:11.21Stanzillayeah
10:11.47nevcairielthats just going to be faster and more relaxing than some random group finder
10:28.30nevcairielalthough i can run ordos now, that i finally have the damn cloak, should do that
10:35.02Fiskerhey nevcairiel
10:35.03Fiskertime for hey
10:35.18nevcairielhey Fisker
10:39.40Fiskerhey
10:44.15nevcairielanyone happen to know if you transmog another cloak into a legendary cloak model, does it get the visual wings effect? :d
10:44.27sbyou cant transmog legendaries
10:44.37znfyou can't transmog to legendaries
10:44.40nevcairielbah
10:44.41nevcairieli want to keep the wings
10:44.43nevcairielthey are cool
10:44.48znfelse everyone would run around with thunderfury
10:45.00nevcairielwell you gotta have it first
10:45.08sbnah, illidan glaives
10:46.14sboh, should cancel my amazon WoD CE preorder
10:46.56Funkeh`why?
10:48.10quiescensfirst step to quitting?
10:48.10quiescens\o/
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10:48.44quiescensgo to sleep
10:49.13sbbecause i ordered somewhere else (where they open my box + send me the keys 1-2 days before release)
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11:01.00Repogrid: 03Phanx * r1662 Core.lua:
11:01.00Repo- Remove Broker label; it's redundant anyway, and GetAddOnInfo is a pain in the ass in WOD
11:24.33sbquiescens: there is no quitting, also there is no sleeping!
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11:35.53Stanzillaoh hey, new guys that want to replace tcp/ip again http://named-data.net/
11:48.25StanzillaWorkfoz: http://www.gamestar.de/spiele/wildstar/news/wildstar,47224,3077998.html that was fast lol
11:50.11nevcairielso is noone playing it anymore? or did they just improve the tech to make that actually possible?
11:50.34Stanzillaboth I guess
11:50.40Stanzilla"»Die erhöhte Serverkapazität wegen des Andrangs am Start ist nicht länger erforderlich. Mit den Megaservern können wir die Spielerkapazität einzeln pro Server erhöhen«."
11:52.20Funkeh`unsurprising
11:52.24Funkeh`it was all hype
11:52.29Stanzillayup
11:52.31Funkeh`played it quite a bit, then got bored
11:52.50Funkeh`MMO genre in general is just meh these days
11:53.07FiskerFunkeh`
11:55.49Megalonis it time to get Funkeh`?
11:59.29Funkeh`maybe
12:03.12Megalonit's businesstime!
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12:47.11Workfozsb: indeed, pretty damn nice album
12:47.35WorkfozStanzilla: yeah, I'm not surprised. community badgered them until they opened up more servers (even though they themselves didn't want to because they knew they'd be ghost towns that much sooner)
12:47.44Workfoznot to mention the wisdom in making an entire MMO aimed at the ~1-5% "hardcore" playerbase
12:47.45nevcairielat least they are doing something now instead of leaving the half-dead realms around
12:48.13nevcairieli've always had the feeling that due to their ground marking business the raids would end up so much more hardcore
12:48.18nevcairielof course i never played long enough to actually find out first hand
12:49.57Workfozthe first tier of 40 man content has still not been cleared
12:50.03Workfoz(probably also something to do with the attunement process. they're making that easier, too)
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12:50.24Workfozcan always ask Caleb|, he's an active WS raider last I checked
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13:04.36nevcairielnot like i really care
13:04.57nevcairieli suppose you dont play anymore, eh?
13:06.42WorkfozI didn't play past level 25
13:06.47Workfoznot really for game reasons, though
13:07.03WorkfozI gorged myself on completing everything in the zones I was playing through, so I was outleveling the areas by at least 3 levels or so
13:07.11Workfozwhich of course means low exp, so it goes kind of slow
13:07.15Workfozso I can blame myself :p
13:07.46WorkfozI should start getting back into live WoW soon
13:07.58Workfoztest raid with new guild soon-ish, perhaps next week already
13:13.37quiescensdon't do it *foz
13:13.37quiescenso.o
13:19.12nevcairielWorkfoz: found a merge thing, or just you switching?
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14:08.46sbneed moer players for wod :(
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14:30.58nevcairielGo alliance and I'll join!
14:47.05znfgo horde or go home, nevcairiel
14:47.12znfstop playing the inferior faction!
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15:02.59Workfoznevcairiel: the people interested in raiding in wod are looking to join another guild
15:03.20Workfozwith time investment/progress ideas similar to ours
15:03.31Workfoztime to go... not home, but to the old datacenter
15:03.37FiskerBye
15:03.39nevcairielso kinda merge, just not really
15:03.40FiskerDon't die
15:03.50znfwhat the fuck Stanzilla
15:03.52znfthe greed level
15:03.54znfwhat the fuck
15:03.56znfI just made 80mil gold
15:04.09Workfozsince the people actually responsible for it are sitting on their hands, I'm now hounding them to make the long distance connection to the new datacenter work
15:04.17Workfozcan't do shit if we can't reach the datacenter from here
15:04.37nevcairielbuild a wifi mesh network!
15:42.27Repolittle-wigs: 03funkydude * r1103  (4 files in 1 directory): BloodmaulSlagMines: Add abilities.
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16:04.50Stanzillahttp://www.twitch.tv/sarakateee/b/565245481?t=1h15m46s
16:07.55Funkeh`wtf
16:08.01Funkeh`did her cat just scratch her eye
16:08.40Funkeh`go to A&E for fucks sake
16:08.59Funkeh`that was cringe
16:09.00Stanzillaeyes don't bleed
16:09.03Stanzillait#s the lid
16:09.08Stanzillabut yeah
16:09.11Stanzilla"WHAT SHOULD I DO"
16:09.18Funkeh`was that live?
16:09.21Stanzillayes
16:10.06Funkeh`wtf got into the cat I wonder
16:13.02Fiskerhi Stanzilla
16:13.59Stanzillahi
16:14.01Stanzillacat was pissed off
16:19.09Stanzillanew agent again
16:19.13Stanzillaand ptr
16:21.35quiescensagent iz taking over your computer
16:21.36quiescens!
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16:27.43Fiskerhttps://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=glass_cotton can you buy it Stanzilla ?
16:28.32Stanzillano
16:38.34RepoNew announcement: WoW UI Community Dinner at Blizzcon 2014 - http://www.wowace.com/announcements/wow-ui-community-dinner-at-blizzcon-2014/
16:39.27Fiskeroh no not Kaelten
16:41.37Fiskersucks Stanzilla
16:57.02KaeltenFisker? :P
16:57.15Fiskernot you
16:58.15znfwhat's a glass cotton?
16:58.52FiskerStanzilla
16:58.53Fiskerhttps://play.google.com/store/devices/details/Moto_360_Black_Leather?id=motorola_moto_360_leather_black
16:58.55Fiskercan you get?
16:59.25Fiskeroh should've read before getting excited
17:00.12znfI can buy
17:00.30znfnot
17:00.46Fiskerindeed you cannot
17:03.48Fiskerbut hey Kaelten nevertheless
17:18.00nevcairielhey Kaelten, will the rewrite retain all the features of cf/wowace? or are some rarely used things going to vanish?
17:19.42FiskerI don't want you to vanish
17:38.31znfoh
17:38.32znfcrap
17:38.37znfI forgot abut the Q&A
17:40.00nevcairieland now its over
17:43.01Kaeltennevcairiel: only clear cut thing I know is going away is the current fork implementation
17:43.40nevcairielhow about like fringe things like the documenter that barely anyone uses?
17:43.54Kaeltenit may not be there at launch
17:44.02Kaeltenbut I think there's a place for a documenter that actually works
17:44.11nevcairielwell its been broken for ages anyway, not like anyone will notice :D
17:44.22znfthere's a what now?
17:44.43Kaeltenyou can't judge the demand for a bridge by how many people swim a river in the dead of winter
17:44.57nevcairieli assume launch will have all the important stuff though, repositories, packager, localization (integrated with packager of course), issue tracking, etc
17:45.12Kaeltenyes absolutely
17:45.33nevcairielalso, can we finally get issue integration with repositories, ie. closing tickets by "Fixes issue #12" ? :D
17:45.51Kaeltena post migration feature, but yes
17:45.54KaeltenI think that's worthwhile
17:46.01nevcairielneat
17:46.03nevcairielwhile i
17:46.09Fiskerheyhey Kaelten
17:46.14FiskerPrepared to be beaten up?
17:46.17nevcairielwhile i'm wishing for things, how about repository browsing on the web? ;)
17:46.18Kaeltengo for it
17:46.40KaeltenI'd love to do that but it's not likely :(
17:46.50nevcairieloh well
17:46.51Kaeltendoing that well is a huge project
17:46.57Kaeltenoutside of our scope at this point
17:47.17Kaeltenbut any other dream list?
17:48.07nevcairielper-issue mail notifications, so that users actually notice when i respond to an issue
17:48.24znfyes please!
17:48.31nevcairielmost issues are fire and forget by users, not helpful for the devs in many cases
17:48.32znfor when someone responds to your ticket/issue
17:48.32Kaeltenthat will be a thing
17:48.41znferm
17:48.46znfignore me
17:48.50znfI didn't read in full :(
17:48.57Kaeltennotifications in general are going to be a huge overhaul
17:48.59Kaeltenand a lot more powerful
17:49.00znfcool
17:49.23znfno more "Shadowed replied 3 days later to my ticket, then he closed it because I didn't respond in 24 hours"
17:49.55nevcairieli should just mass-close all the issues on some of my addons again
17:50.02KaeltenI'd also love to hear you opinion on the client
17:50.11nevcairielnever used the thing
17:50.23znfthe curse client?
17:50.27Kaeltenyes
17:50.33znfhere's an issue I never got around to report
17:50.48nevcairieli still get all my addons from repository checkouts :p
17:51.08znfopen client, have 5-6 updates available; sort by update status; hit update all; while updating, right click one of those addons and try to see changes
17:51.18znfif the addon changes position
17:51.34nevcairielbut i hear you're doing away with ads and download limitations for regular users?
17:51.34znfthe context menu changes, too, so you get to see another addon's recent changes :P
17:51.45Kaeltennevcairiel download speed anyway
17:51.57Kaeltenmight still be a concurrenly limit, hasn't been finalized yet
17:51.57znfno more flash ads?
17:52.03Kaeltenznf: no more client ads, period
17:52.14znfcool
17:52.32znfI think we asked already, but what will the benefits of premium be?
17:52.42Fiskerboobsd
17:52.44Fiskerboobs*
17:53.17Kaeltenad free sites are staying
17:53.24znfI see.
17:53.25Kaeltenother features like addon sync and what not are staying
17:53.30znfwhat?
17:53.41Kaeltenaddon sync & SV sync
17:53.45Kaeltenthose are premium features
17:53.46znfYou mean no more addon sync in Premium?
17:53.47znfah
17:53.48znfok
17:53.53znfWhat about more than one backup?
17:54.03Kaeltenwill see what I can do
17:54.04znfor, being able to access last X backups
17:54.26znfbecause if you do a change, you screw it up, then open up the client, the client backs up your current profile
17:54.37znfand you can't restore to your previous working condition
17:54.44Kaeltendefinately something we can look at
17:54.47Kaeltendefinitely*
17:55.15Kaeltenand we will be working in the future to give more solid premium features
17:55.24Kaeltenoh and did I mention we're having full parity on Mac in the future?
17:55.25sbjust git SVs
17:55.30sbor any other VC
17:55.42nevcairielKaelten: noone cares about 1% of the users :D
17:55.42znfsb, I just make a .rar every time I remember!
17:55.53znfwhat's a full parity on mac? :D
17:55.59Kaeltenfull feature parity
17:56.05Kaeltenfor the OS X Curse Client
17:56.06nevcairielznf: he means mac has the same state of features, and doesnt lack behind anymore
17:56.17znfoh, I wasn't aware the osx client was limited
17:56.22Kaelteneh, it's still behind, but we're catching it up
17:56.24znfso, wait, are you moving away from .NET?
17:56.26Kaeltenznf: yeah it was never really finished
17:56.30Kaeltennope
17:56.47znfIs the OSX client a "port" (using some sort of Mono wizardry)?
17:58.37znfOr it's native cocoa / objective-c thingie? (and without trying to be mean, you actually got objective-c programmers now?)
18:15.48quiescensmoo?
18:16.02Fiskerdefibs Kaelten
18:16.13FiskerYou need to survive for the match in two months
18:16.47Kaeltenznf: the old version is completely native
18:16.56znfcool
18:17.02Kaeltenthe new version is going to be a hybrid of native UI with mono internals
18:22.06quiescensuntil it evolves and tries to take over the world
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19:03.11MysticalOSmy group only managed to get through pillar phase once and i forgot to log that pull :\
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19:17.47Gnarfozsb: another black spot on Google Music: Stratovarius... 2012 album only as live version, 2013 album only as "promo version" >_>
19:18.42sbmeh
19:19.00Gnarfozmh, I read that wrong, the "2012" is actually from 2009. weird: the 2011 album is there. >_>
19:23.44znfhttp://i.imgur.com/xeKkVVp.png
19:23.45znfyo do the math
19:24.15Gnarfozalmost 5 M$
19:24.17Gnarfoznot bad
19:25.03Gnarfozalthough making something that works on that amount of software and doesn't suck... is certainly worth something ;)
19:25.24Gnarfozwould be interesting to know how many people took how long to develop that
19:25.40znfOne
19:26.24Gnarfozthat's certainly a good for them then ;>
19:26.27Gnarfoz-a
19:26.36znfor so do the people say
19:26.57znfhttp://theme-fusion.com/about/
19:27.01znfI guess 2 + support
19:27.06znfstill
19:27.08znfshitloads of money
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19:27.19Gnarfozmeh, Oracle is retiring my certification
19:27.48GnarfozI guess I could try and renew/upgrade to the new one, but do I really want to? :|
19:27.49PrimerOH NO!
19:27.54PrimerWhatever will you do?
19:28.12PrimerPerhaps you can get a posgres certification?
19:28.18Gnarfozhave one less piece of paper to justify a good salary when I try and get a new job after this one
19:28.31Gnarfozis what I will do
19:28.35Gnarfozmost likely, if I do nothing :P
19:28.44nevcairielif work pays for the renew, do it
19:28.49GnarfozI highly doubt it
19:28.50Gnarfoz:D
19:28.58znfDoes anyone know how exactly is EC2 billed?
19:29.07GnarfozAmazon does
19:29.12znfwhat does 750 Hours of computing time actually mean?
19:29.15znf(for the free tier)
19:29.47GnarfozI'm not sure how that's imprecise?
19:29.54nevcairielwe had a right for trainings per year, guaranteed by workers council, could've probably make something like that count for that, but of course that requires you have something like that
19:30.09Gnarfozyeah, we do have one
19:30.52Gnarfozand even before that at least my team-lead guy (well, he sucks at that part, he's not suited to it) said "pick something and I'll try and get it approved"
19:30.58Gnarfoz...I guess we never did
19:31.07Gnarfozgot ourselves to blame ^^
19:31.08nevcairielheh
19:31.26GnarfozI think I do have a "trainings.txt" in my home dir
19:31.29nevcairieland people say laziness is a virtue for programmers!
19:31.36nevcairiel~laziness
19:31.36purlLAZINESS: The quality that makes you go to great effort to reduce overall energy expenditure. It makes you write labor-saving programs that other people will find useful, and document what you wrote so you don't have to answer so many questions about it. Hence, the first great virtue of a programmer.
19:31.38Gnarfozwith vmware courses I had narrowed down
19:31.48Gnarfozprobably all outdated by now, that's at least 2 years old
19:31.58nevcairieli never really used mine either
19:32.11Gnarfozbut you're right, I should check if they'd pay for it
19:32.24nevcairieldid one inhouse communication thing because it seemed mildly interesting, but never anything tech-y
19:32.27znfoh, 750 hours is actually 31 days
19:32.27Gnarfozmaybe I could put that down for this year and do vmware next year
19:32.41znfso I can just keep an instance running 24/7
19:32.53nevcairielactually thats wrong, we did one tech-y training for test driven development
19:33.08Gnarfozbut we all know it's fear driven development that gets things done
19:33.26nevcairielyea never really used it
19:35.45Gnarfozhttp://www.ec2instances.info/ neat
19:35.50znfAh, so I can get an EC2 for 12 months for free
19:35.55Gnarfoz(I should one day look into using AWS for... something)
19:36.11Gnarfoznot sure what or why, though xD
19:36.36znfand then it's $10 / month
19:36.37nevcairielyeah its rally not something you start out with, you need a problem first, then use it as a solution :D
19:38.35znfNew AWS accounts receive 12 months of AWS Free Tier access
19:38.48znfso, if you have enough energy, you can simply make new accounts? :-|
19:39.05Gnarfozthey probably frown upon that.
19:39.06Gnarfoz:p
19:39.21znfyou think?
19:39.27znf:P
19:39.31Gnarfozand you probably need to put in payment info right away, so you'd have to have several of those as well
19:39.37Gnarfoz(not that that's impossible or anything)
19:39.39nevcairielfrown just means they dont like it though, not that they'll ban you :D
19:39.51znfI need a backup for one of our services
19:39.54znfmight as well :D
19:39.55Gnarfozthey probably will
19:39.59Gnarfozcheck the ToS ;P
19:40.27GnarfozI wonder how long 1&1 is going to take with this 100 Mbit/s stuff
19:40.48Gnarfozshit, I wanted to buy cleaning alcohol
19:40.50Gnarfoz>_<
19:40.52Gnarfoz*puts on list*
19:43.16nevcairieli have some
19:43.23nevcairielbut what do you want to clean?
19:45.16Stanzillapenis
19:45.27znfTIL A housefly will immobilize itself and brace against the headwind from a hairdryer, allowing for easy swatting/disposal. - [1:49] (youtube.com)
19:45.34znfnow that's a lifeback! :D
19:45.42Gnarfoznevcairiel: keyboard
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19:46.10Gnarfozwho is Sal
19:46.14Gnarfozand why should he die?
19:46.47znfStanzilla, my legendary gem does 1.6+ mil damage/second
19:46.49znfis that good?
19:47.09Stanzilladepends on which gem it is?
19:48.34znfStanzilla, the poison dot one
19:48.36znflvl15
19:49.00Stanzilla^dunno, havent uised that one yet
19:49.21StanzillaI'm totally casualing this patch
19:49.32znfI'm not doing seasonal stuff
19:49.37znfjust normal stuff
19:50.18StanzillaI said patch, not season
19:51.08znfyes, and I added that I don't do season stuff
19:51.11znfso, casual
19:51.28znf(and most likely never will)
19:51.51Stanzillajust dinged 105 on my season char
19:51.53Stanzillaslackerino
19:51.58znfheh
19:52.03znfdidn't even make one
19:52.11znfI don't care about rankings, leaderboards etc. :D
19:52.21znfI'm barely 282 paragon anyway
19:52.25StanzillaI have friends that care about that reset
19:52.57znfI don't even know all the legendary gems :D
19:52.59znfI should check
19:53.56znfI don't even know which website to check
19:54.12Stanzillaso windows 9 on the 30th
19:54.15Stanzillaso close *_*
19:54.24znfseptember?
19:54.27Stanzillayes
19:54.31znfpreview?
19:54.33nevcairielyes
19:54.44znfcool
19:55.26znfd3head.com is useless
19:56.50znfOh. So there's only 13 gems
19:59.05znfso I have this http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/item/gem-of-efficacious-toxin
19:59.13znfand I need this http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/item/enforcer
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20:01.11RepoKargathBladefist: remove flash from self-damage and add to On the Hunt so the two fixate abilities are immediately recognizable
20:09.29Repoblood-shield-tracker: 03talryn1 07master * 0.29-11-g39ea6d3  (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] GetAddOnInfo(name) appears to be removed in the latest beta.  Use the index version.
20:35.03Repoalts: 03talryn1 07master * 1.2-8-g1a6a2c3  (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] * Add option to not add unit frame menu items. * Changes for WoD.
20:37.04Repoguild-search: 03talryn1 07master * 1.8-3-ge15b379 GuildSearch.lua: [+1 commit] Updates for WoD.
20:38.49Repobig-wigs: 03nebula169 * r11924  (10 files in 2 directories):
20:38.50RepoTectus: add some more add yell triggers (grr), make Crystalline Barrage self only and add a marker for it
20:47.16MysticalOStrains, NOW
20:48.04Repoadibuttonauras: 03Adirelle 07master * 1.7-31-g3796367  (2 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits]
20:48.05Repo3796367: Display the internal "key" of unknown spell/item.
20:48.05Repod5ff2c3: Rewritten item support so item rules can be shown and disabled.
20:48.25Gnarfoztraaaaaaiiiiiins
20:48.40Gnarfozclearly, I should play some openttd
20:50.14Stanzillahttp://mobilesyrup.com/2014/09/04/we-might-learn-android-ls-real-name-this-saturday/#.VAkBMhQQnpw.google_plusone_share
20:50.21Stanzilla(old, I know, was playing d3 though, so fu)
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20:56.02Repoalts: 03talryn1 07master * 1.2-10-ge48dd03 Alts.lua: [+2 commits]
20:56.02Repoe48dd03: Fix bug with Add Menu Item code.
20:56.02Repo38d3828: Fix issue with trying to rehook the menu.  Just require a restart.
21:01.06AdirelleOpeth's Pale Communion ranked #3 in Germany after one week. I'm surprised it ever ranked #45 in France.
21:03.10Gnarfozwho the hell is Gary, doing "our" charts podcast
21:03.17Gnarfozsounds like a brit
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21:07.02Gnarfozalso how do we have a Soundcloud account and I don't know that
21:07.43Stanzillawe?
21:08.15Gnarfozmy company
21:09.32elvadorbeta testing at it's best
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21:09.59elvadorwho needs a boss when you can just stand in a room anyway?
21:10.22Gnarfoz!
21:10.38GnarfozAdirelle_: so are you saying I should listen to it? :D
21:10.40Fiskerhey Gnarfoz
21:10.55FiskerLemon Mirenque Pie
21:11.01GnarfozMeringue?
21:11.47Fiskerclose enough
21:12.06Gnarfozwhen life gives you lemon meringue pie, you make lemon meringue pienade
21:13.20Gnarfozmaaan our charts site is ass-tastically slow
21:14.50AdirelleGnarfoz, no, I'm not, I'm saying metal is a lost cause in France. (BTW, Pale Communion is more prog rock)
21:15.07Gnarfozwell, as Opeth is (Google calls it "progressive metal" though)
21:15.22Gnarfozmh, I don't have (easy) access to French charts
21:15.42Stanzillaspotify has it
21:16.08Gnarfozhas what?
21:16.12Stanzillathe album
21:16.24Gnarfozso does Google, that wasn't the point
21:16.42Adirellewell, I'm not fan of the last two albums of Opeth anyway, I prefer their old prog/death metal style
21:16.47GnarfozI meant I can't easily look at the official French music charts
21:17.30AdirelleI'm not even sure "offical charts" still exists
21:17.36Gnarfozsure
21:17.38Gnarfozthey're probably here http://www.musiqueautop.com/ but I don't have a login for that
21:17.49Gnarfozunless they changed something
21:18.03Gnarfozthey might have :D
21:19.00Adirellethere, I think: http://www.chartsinfrance.net/charts/albums.php
21:19.15Gnarfozhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syndicat_National_de_l'%C3%89dition_Phonographique <
21:19.37GnarfozPure Charts est diffuseur officiel du Classement officiel des ventes d'albums en France.
21:19.40GnarfozCe classement du Syndicat National de l'Edition Phonographique (SNEP), établi par GFK Music, est officiel. Il inclut les ventes physiques et digitales. Tous les droits de reproduction et de communication au public sont réservés au Groupement d'intérêt économique des éditeurs phonographiques et audiovisuels (GIEEPA).
21:19.45GnarfozI don't speak French at all
21:20.12FiskerI wonder when we will see the volantis
21:20.13Gnarfozare they saying they're distributing the official charts as determined by GfK Music?
21:21.08AdirelleSNEP is one of the artist federation
21:21.11Adirelleso kinda
21:21.23Gnarfozone of? sounds like it is *the* one
21:21.35Gnarfoz(there's not ususally more than one of these per country)
21:21.46Gnarfozand it's an industry association, not artists
21:22.03Gnarfoz(unless I'm reading it wrong)
21:22.54Gnarfoz(well, artists might be considered part of the industry, hah, as many of them are under contract with one of those companies)
21:23.02Adirelleyeah, well, there is also the SACD  (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soci%C3%A9t%C3%A9_des_Auteurs_et_Compositeurs_Dramatiques) and the SACEM (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soci%C3%A9t%C3%A9_des_auteurs,_compositeurs_et_%C3%A9diteurs_de_musique)
21:23.19Gnarfozah
21:23.27Gnarfozthose are equivalents to Germany's GEMA, though
21:23.40Adirelletheir goals probably overlap but do not match exactly
21:24.06Gnarfozyeh
21:24.22GnarfozI could ask a colleague, but I'd probably just get a shrug and a weird look ;p
21:24.30Adirellehowever, for the charts, the SNEP is probably the right one
21:26.04Adirelleanyway, this is biased, as a law enforce the french radio to broadcast at least 40% of french-speaking songs (or is it songs from french artists, even in they sing in another language. cannot remember)
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21:27.45Gnarfozsame here
21:27.49Gnarfoz(or similar, at least)
21:28.20Gnarfozalthough it's debatable that airplay affects sales much these days
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21:28.28znfSo, question
21:28.37znfAre washer+drier combos common in .de?
21:28.43GnarfozI'd say no
21:28.48Gnarfozmost people don't have driers
21:28.57Gnarfozoh you meant as one device?
21:29.45nevcairielpersonally i have never seen one of those combo devices, but i've heard of them
21:29.46znfthat's a valid answer :P
21:29.48Gnarfozno idea, driers themselves aren't that popular, not sure if that means people also don't buy combos
21:30.09znfI'm kind of getting sick and tired of washing clothes 2-3 times when it's damn humid outside :(
21:30.14znfnothing dries up
21:30.26znfand clothes end up smelling bad, so I have to rewash them
21:30.26Gnarfozwhy... what
21:30.29Kalroththey aren't very common here in Denmark either, they're usually separate if anything
21:30.30Gnarfozah
21:30.36Adirelledriers in combos have a lower capacity than the washer
21:30.47Gnarfozwell, you're near a big body of water, znf, what do you expect :p
21:30.52Adirellei.e. you cannot dry in one pass all the clothes you wahsed
21:31.06znfWho washes 9kgs of clothes at a time anyway?! :-|
21:31.12GnarfozAdirelle: that... sounds like the perfect way to not sell any of those devices \o/
21:31.13Kalrothfamilies
21:31.21znfstill, 9kg?!
21:31.23AdirelleGnarfoz, indeed
21:31.24znfthat's insane
21:31.49znfI mean, our current washer is ~6kg I think, and I never load it in full anyway
21:32.04znfI wash as little as 5-6 t-shirts and a pair of jeans + underwear/socks etc
21:32.07Kalrothhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combo_washer_dryer all you need to know, znf!
21:32.15znfI know of thhem, Kalroth  :P
21:32.18znfbut I'm reading a reddit thread
21:32.21znfand everyone says the combos suck
21:32.24nevcairieli'm usually too lazy to wash, so i collect a whole bunch of stuff before i manage to do it
21:32.25znfand I'm like... why? :-|
21:32.26Adirellepeople on this dev channels are getting old, talking washer and shit
21:32.55Kalrothznf: they're mediocre in both aspects, they're slow washers and slow dryers
21:33.07nevcairielbut half the space!
21:33.10znfI checked the price of a separate washer
21:33.15nevcairieli wouldnt have room to put a drier
21:33.16znfit's not pretty :-|
21:33.17Adirellethat's the only point, I think
21:33.18Kalrothbut having two machines allow you to do both
21:33.22Kalrothstack 'em, nev
21:33.32znfAdirelle, price!
21:33.32nevcairieli have stuff on the washer already!
21:33.36Kalrothmove it
21:33.37Kalrothsheesh!
21:33.39nevcairielwhere!
21:33.43Kalrothto the floor
21:34.13Kalroth".. it also takes much longer to process a load of laundry. The standard drying cycle is one hour, but many owners report that clothes take several hours to dry completely. Many users say they take out some wet laundry and dry their clothes in two batches to speed drying time."
21:34.22znflike, cheapest combo unit is 500€, cheapest drier is 450€
21:34.48Kalroth"On an average, clothes that weigh between 4-5 pounds would keep the machine working for no less than 4.5 hours."
21:34.49Kalrothouch
21:35.08Kalrothmaybe it's improved significantly lately!
21:35.25Adirellewhat I've said, if the washer capacity is 6kg, the drier is around 3-4kg
21:35.40Adirelleyou can try to dry 6kg at once, but it will take longer
21:35.46Kalrothyup
21:35.48nevcairiel5 pounds is just over 2kg though, that seems like they got a really terrible machine
21:36.16znfWhat I see in the stores is 8-9kg washer and 5-6 drier
21:36.19AdirelleI think there is need to some room for air flow
21:36.35nevcairielyeah its easier with water, it just goes everywhere on its own
21:36.35znfso, -3kgs for the drier
21:37.15Adirelleznf, your call, but you have been warned by addon-coding experts !
21:37.23znfso, combo is ~500€, washer is 215€, drier is 450€
21:37.56Kalrothhttp://washer-dryer-combo-review.toptenreviews.com/artison-review.html
21:37.58Kalroth"A common issue found with separate laundry machines is the need to monitor the washer to ensure wet clothes don’t sit around all day before being dried."
21:37.59Kalrothreally
21:38.07Kalroththe timer on the washer doesn't give it away
21:38.20znfheh
21:38.26znfI guess not all of them have timers :P
21:38.31Kalroth"oh damnit when is it done??? display says 1:22 but i'm so confused!!!"
21:38.48Kalroth"The Artison ARWDF129 is equipped with a 1.9 cubic foot drum that can hold up to 15 pounds during washing cycles and 11 pounds while drying."
21:38.51znfthe one I have now weighs the clothes and gives you a time for all other settings than the "Quick" one
21:38.52Kalrothlook at that, znf!
21:39.09znfThe Quick setting is 33 minutes regardless :P
21:39.36KalrothI'm still waiting for a combo dish clothes washer dryer
21:39.52znf(and I wash most of my stuff on the quick setting anyway, as I just wear t-shirts for a day then throw it in the washer)
21:39.53Kalroththat way i can wash and dry my socks with my dirty dinner plates
21:39.53nevcairieljust put your clothes in the dishwasher
21:40.06Adirellemine has a 15-minute program, for the clothes-that-are-not-really-dirty-why-are-you-trying-to-wash-them-dumbass
21:40.08Kalrothbut will the socks dry?? no they wont
21:40.25znf15 minutes? nice
21:40.29nevcairielmost of my shirts dont really get dirty, just slightly sweaty
21:40.36znfAdirelle, because-they-smell-of-sweat
21:42.23Adirellehrm, I'd like to answer something, but I think it would reinforce some cliché about Frenches
21:42.40znf:))
21:42.47Kalrothhaha
21:43.35Adirelleso, er, yeah, sure, wash your shirts when they smell
21:44.45znfI wash them after one day of wear, regardless
21:45.54nevcairieli sometimes give them two when it wasn't hot or anything, but thats the limit
21:49.10znfhttp://insidetv.ew.com/2014/09/05/walking-dead-companion-series/
21:49.11znfholy crap
21:50.53nevcairiela spin-off huh,  usually those suck
22:02.03Fiskerfgsfds me nevcairiel
22:15.47Stanzillanew agent again
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