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11:17.58*** topic/#wowace is WoD Beta Access http://goo.gl/eVsdYQ | http://wowace.com/ | 5.4.x ToC: 50400 | http://wowace.com/paste/ | http://lua.org | This channel is logged, via purl
11:24.46Stanzillayeah I saw
11:27.07i0thanks a bunch nevcairiel
11:33.01nebula169do custom sounds not work in beta? i just noticed PlaySoundFile doesn't work o.O
11:33.20nevcairielit was broken a bit ago, yes
11:37.24Stanzillaoh today is chrome git flag day
11:38.09Fiskerpenis?
11:38.33Stanzillanope
11:38.39FiskerI once killed a guy
11:51.36sbwe know
11:51.39sbit was bad
11:53.17Fisker:(
11:57.46quiescenskilling people is wrong ):
11:58.49nevcairielkilling cows however results in deliciousness
12:26.41nevcairielyou know what i really hate, people that like start prospecting in raids and spam everything with their shit, and you have to scroll way up to see if someone made any assignments
12:29.06quiescenso.o
12:34.39nevcairiel8/12 runestones, and 8 more bosses in SoO that can drop them, wonder if i have any luck today
12:37.44elvadorbeta lfr so far: http://i.imgur.com/QbQJRBD.png
12:38.33Adirellenevcairiel, that's why I have a "spam" chat window, I only keep important channels in the main windows
12:46.05nevcairielAdirelle: i could probably disable other peoples craft entirely
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12:46.23nevcairielno idea when i would ever care
12:46.54nevcairielguess needs an addon though to do that filtering
12:47.02nevcairieldefault doesnt have that fine-grained control
12:47.11EthanCentauraiGood aftermorning! o/
12:48.24Adirellemorning
12:49.32AdirelleI have the feeling that animations and c_timers with very small durations are run in the frame they are started on beta, which is not the case on live
12:52.16Adirellethis affects C_Timers and animation-based timers (AceTimer) alike, but not OnUpdate-based timers
12:52.20Stanzilla4th sourcetree update in a week lol
12:52.22Stanzillabroken much
12:53.45nevcairielAdirelle: like what small durations is that?
12:53.51nevcairielAceTimer doesnt really do below 0.1 anyway
12:54.05Adirelle0.1 is apparently safe, 1e-5 got it everytime
12:54.47nevcairielthats way below the frame interval, so running it at 0 is much closer to the desired time than running it at the next frame :P
12:54.58AdirelleI had a update that caculates the delay to next update dynamically (e.g. no need to update a minute display every second)
12:55.54Adirellebut when it is showing tenth of second and the value gets close to 0, it used very small vlaues
12:56.10Adirellewhich caused another update the same frame, and boom, infinite recursion, client freezes
12:56.17nevcairielat 60 fps, frame interval is 0.016 seconds, so running anything below say 0.008, its closer to the desired time to run it now, instead of wait until 0.016
12:57.00Adirelledid not ever trigger "the script ran too long error" since technically this was different executions
12:57.18Adirellejust added a max(0.1, duration) to solve it
12:57.50Adirellehowever, this never happened on live, so I suppose they changed something
12:58.28nevcairielbtw, acetimer limits it to 0.01 right now
12:58.37nevcairielanything below gets set to 0.01 automatically
12:58.49nevcairieldid you actually encounter it with acetimer?
12:59.02nevcairielbelow 0.01 caused failures with the animation on live too
12:59.27nevcairielalthough it seemed to not fire at all then
12:59.49Adirelleyep, this was freezing with acetimer, which I used on live
13:00.06AdirelleI changed to C_Timers in my wod branch, but this was happening as well
13:00.41Adirelle(I meant: this was happening with my "live code using AceTimer" with the WoD client)
13:00.42nevcairielmaybe we should just add a trick to ensure its delayed by one frame
13:01.09nevcairielor get some US person to ask
13:01.18nevcairielsince C_Timer is new, maybe they'll elaborate
13:01.30AdirelleI reported it on the EU forum, but I has little hope it had any effect
13:02.45Adirellehttp://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/11235473529#13
13:03.38Adirellegiven how repeating C_Timers work, this can be give "interesting" results
13:04.25nevcairielthey did at one time say they would recommend OnUpdates for very low timers
13:04.39Adirelleoh
13:04.40nevcairielie. anything that runs every frame or every other frame, use OnUpdate
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13:06.33Adirellein my case, a 0.1 minimum delay is fine
13:07.02Adirellenot sure what (or if something) should be done to AceTimer
13:07.15nevcairielwonder if thats more extreme if youre on very low fps
13:07.18nevcairieli shall try later
13:07.36Adirellehrm, interesting question
13:08.31nevcairielincidentally, this system is very low fps :P
13:08.38Fiskerbtw Stanzilla
13:08.59Fiskerdid you see they certified the volantis tablet?
13:09.14Stanzillano
13:09.22FiskerSo they might just actually release the new nexus devices next month
13:09.36Fiskerhttp://certifications.prod.wi-fi.org/pdf/certificate/public/download?cid=WFA54709
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13:14.59nevcairielhrm, 9/12 and only 4 bosses left, guess no luck this week
13:15.06nevcairielstupid buff isnt working
13:15.19Adirellenevcairiel, on the WoD client, this code with a duration below 1e-3 display 10 identical numbers: /run C_Timer.NewTicker(duration, function() print(GetTime()) end, 10)
13:15.36Adirellewhatever the FPS actually is
13:16.05Adirellei.e. I limited the FPS to 8 using the advanced settings, this had the same result
13:16.54Adirellein the other hand, with 1e-3 or higher, the FPS is imposing a minimal duration, e.g. 0.125 at 8 FPS
13:18.06Adirellethat looks like some precision issue, i.e. times and duration are rounded to lowest 1e-3 (or said otherwise, they store time in milliseconds as interger)
13:18.13Adirelles/interger/integer/
13:18.54nevcairielbut acetimers limit is 0.01, ie 1e-2, if we switch it over to C_Timer it should never go below that
13:19.54nevcairieland they did say its only ever checked once per frame, so the fps would impose the resolution
13:20.17Adirellechecking AceTimer
13:20.44nevcairielright now its still animations of course
13:23.37quiescensmoo
13:25.29Adirellenevcairiel, you're right, it enforces a 0.01 delay
13:25.42Adirelleso how the fuck did this caused the client de freeze ?
13:25.47Adirelles/de/to/
13:28.37Adirellegonna have to do some more testing...
13:28.45Adirellebut I don't have much time
13:28.46Adirellelater
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13:43.11quiescenso.o
13:43.14quiescensnow there's two of them
13:43.32EthanCentauraimany Adirelles! handle it!
13:44.37EthanCentauraiwhile true { Adirelle++ }
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13:48.13quiescensethan must have broked it
13:48.24EthanCentaurai:(
13:48.35EthanCentauraithe infinite loop cause a crash
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14:09.09Repobig-wigs: 03nebula169 * r11857 Highmaul/TheButcher.lua: TheButcher: fix Frenzy soon message
14:10.34Repobig-wigs: 03nebula169 * r11858 Highmaul/KargathBladefist.lua: KargathBladefist: fix Berserker Rush and Impale
14:23.05Repobugsack: 03Phanx * r276  (3 files in 1 directory): - Fixed error when clearing a search
14:23.05Repo- Add project ID to TOC
14:23.05Repo- Add svn:externals for developer convenience
14:25.11Stanzillaroar
14:25.49Repobasic-combo-points: 03funkydude * r89  (2 files in 1 directory): Use RegisterUnitEvent.
14:28.25Fiskeryou're a roar
14:28.26Repobasic-combo-points: 03funkydude 04v3.47 * r90 : Tagging as v3.47
14:31.36Repobig-wigs: 03nebula169 * r11859 Highmaul/Brackenspore.lua:
14:31.36RepoBrackenspore: give the different fungus their own options, remove HEALER from friendly shrooms
14:48.44Repobartender4: 03Nevcairiel 07WoD * 4.5.13.2-12-g56a3339  (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Fix warrior stance handling. Berserker Stance is gone, Gladiator Stance is new.
14:55.13Repobugsack: 03funkydude * r277  (3 files in 2 directories): Revert addition of svn:externals, sorry but no thanks.
14:55.13RepoRevert addition of X-Curse-Project-ID, this is automatically added by the Curse packager so it would end up in the file twice, and is otherwise useless.
14:55.13RepoI've left X-WoWI-ID as it may serve some form of purpose? (I doubt it)
14:57.35Repobartender4: 03Nevcairiel 07WoD * 4.5.13.2-13-g4819848 StateBar.lua: [+1 commit] Remove Incarnation: Tree of Life bar stance, it was broken.
14:58.09nevcairielhm this is kinda cool, they have a glyph now that makes druid travel form run at mount speed, and its still instant cast
14:58.15nevcairielhow did i miss that
14:58.47nevcairielthe only problem, for some weird reason its exclusive with the glyph that makes you not look like a stag <.<
14:59.13znfsilly glyph
15:00.46EthanCentauraiI like my Stag Form separate. Why can I only pick one? #FirstWorldDruidProblems
15:01.11nevcairielit only becomes useless once you have stables L3 for the mount speed bonus, then you better ride
15:01.27znfHow much is the bonus, btw?
15:02.35EthanCentauraiThey added a glyph for Shaman ghost wolf form too.
15:02.55nevcairielalthough i guess there is also the guild bonus still for 10%, no idea if thats going away in WoD, i lost the overview which guild bonus are just going away entirely
15:04.05znfSo, question, should I bother (again) paying 10€ for my custom Visa Card? (with my own photo)
15:04.11znfI seem to have lost my batman one :(
15:04.48nevcairielwho cares
15:05.13znfI need to ask for a replacement, not sure if I should bother getting a batman one again :-|
15:05.20znf(plus it takes days to get approval on the design)
15:06.20Repobig-wigs: 03nebula169 * r11860 Highmaul/Brackenspore.lua:
15:06.20RepoBrackenspore: sound and flash on Creeping Moss if you have a flamethrower
15:08.31Fiskermmmm Stanzilla
15:08.36Fiskerlemon meringue pie
15:10.55Stanzillaok
15:12.46FiskerIt's coming next month
15:12.48Fiskerit must!
15:12.58znfbeats Fisker with a vague bat
15:13.00nevcairielif with next month you mean october
15:13.24Funkeh`I guess they've changed something with the timings on animations with rotations, my sexymap rotations are going nuts
15:13.26znfSeriously, why do you have to be so vague every damn time? :-|
15:13.28FiskerMight as well release everything simultanously nevcairiel
15:14.00FiskerBecause it's better that way znf
15:14.15nevcairielznf: obviously he is talking about android "L", although i dont think thats the actual confirmed name
15:14.27EthanCentauraiI'm so vague... You probably think this song is about you, don't you...
15:14.35Fiskernot officially no
15:14.37Fiskerhttp://www.androidpolice.com/2014/08/23/lmp-lemon-meringue-pie-looking-more-and-more-likely-as-the-official-name-for-android-l/
15:14.47Fiskerbut suggests it may be
15:15.10FiskerAnd I'm saying L next month along with Nexus 9
15:15.26znfso Nexus 9 is made by HTC?
15:15.54FiskerJust datamining the wifi certification thingy so I can see if they upload but hide motorola stuff
15:15.58nevcairielI might buy a N9 tablet
15:16.14znfso who will make the nexus 6?
15:16.16nevcairielmy old samsung is so butt slow and drains battery like crazy these days
15:16.24FiskerDenver Tegra K1 best Denver
15:16.45Stanzillaand L for older devices (like mine :() another month later
15:17.10nevcairielis N4 = older, and N5 = newer?
15:17.10nevcairiel:D
15:17.18FiskerInfact I'm also calling that Blizzard is developing Hearthstone on Nexus 9
15:17.20Stanzillayes
15:17.48Stanzillawhy would you think so, Fisker
15:17.50nevcairielI might play a bit more hearthstone if i could play it on a tablet
15:18.00FiskerThe performance Stanzilla
15:18.02FiskerTHE PERFORMANCE
15:18.39Stanzillasame, nevcairiel
15:18.43Stanzillaon the toilet or so
15:18.54znfso, Nexus 6? Any news?
15:18.54FiskerI hope they add voip then
15:18.57Fiskermandatory
15:19.05Fiskernone yet
15:19.21znfbut there will be a nexus device (phone) this year, right?
15:19.28FiskerProbably maybe yes
15:19.38Funkeh`I thought it was going to be motorola that is doing n6
15:19.43FiskerProbably maybe yes
15:20.41Fiskersofar I've grabbed about 1500 wifi certifications
15:20.52Fisker1500 being 404
15:21.08FiskerWhen I'm done I just need to stitch them together
15:21.43znfstiches Fisker together with a vague bat
15:22.01FiskerThat wasn't even vague
15:22.03nevcairielznf: just keep up to date with tech stuff and you always know what he is on about!
15:22.41nevcairielhas been trolling around several tech news sites every couple hours hoping for more X99/HSW-E/DDR4 news
15:23.16FiskerI'm waiting for a haswell that ends well
15:23.50FiskerOr maybe I should just wait for a lake of skies
15:26.29Funkeh`I'm waiting for a sky of lakes
15:28.00Stanzillanevcairiel: if you got a PM from the our forum, just ignore it
15:28.11StanzillaI'm not sure if my script sends it for guild members, too
15:28.51Fiskeroh man
15:28.55Fiskertime to take out the vague bat znf
15:29.21Fiskerhaha Funkeh` bought blands -1
15:29.24Fiskerhow silly
15:29.26znf...clearly
15:29.47Funkeh`why is that silly
15:29.55Fisker4-pack or bust
15:30.27Funkeh`well it was £15 off for the next 2 days
15:30.31Funkeh`so s/hrug
15:31.22Fisker£15?
15:31.23Fiskerwow
15:36.17quiescenso.o
15:38.00Fisker2000 to go
15:38.08Kalrothpls
15:40.08StanzillaFisker: I don't like the design of the moto x+1
15:40.14FiskerNope
15:40.16Stanzillaso I hope the n6 is somethign different
15:40.19FiskerLooks like a stretched out moto x :(
15:41.27FiskerBut I wonder what the sensors are
15:41.42quiescensmagic
15:41.59FiskerWant ban quiescens ?
15:42.18Kalrothwell they are kinda magic
15:42.34Kalrothmagic carpet ride
15:42.55FiskerI sneezed
15:44.36FiskerAnyway I'm getting blands -1 for free Funkeh`
15:44.48Funkeh`nice
15:48.39Kalrothwhy free, what makes you so special, better than the rest of us
15:52.15Repobig-wigs: 03funkydude * r11861 Highmaul/BigWigs_Highmaul.toc: Fix Highmaul TOC id.
15:53.20FiskerNothing Kalroth
15:53.40Kalrothit's not fair
15:58.29Fisker500 to go
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16:06.31nevcairielstanzilla: you and your weird scripts
16:06.52Stanzillayeah you don't even want to see that one :D
16:07.02nevcairielBut I got nothing
16:07.10Stanzillaok fine
16:08.34nevcairielBut I noticed I can read things now :)
16:08.41Stanzillayep
16:09.36nevcairielNot that there is much talk
16:10.01Fiskerwonder what script it was
16:10.34nevcairielForums seem to be kinda dead for most guilds
16:13.03znfdidn't I read some snippet about how the item links are supposed to work in WoD?
16:13.23znfI mean, the new stuff that's supposed to be in them?
16:13.43Fiskersadface
16:13.45Fiskerthere was nothing
16:13.54znflike, if item has socket or stuff like that
16:14.08FiskerSo I have this 8000-page pdf document for nothing
16:14.51Stanzillaso Opera just renamed their dev builds from "Opera Developer" to "Opera developer"
16:15.19Stanzillanevcairiel: and yes, we are not a very forum active guild
16:15.27Stanzillait has some flame wars here and there though
16:15.52Stanzillahah, you can even read the last one
16:16.14nevcairielMy last raid guild was the same way. A bit of flame, a bit of "I won't be here tonight"
16:16.16znfAskMrRobot should do e better job with RoboCouncil :-(
16:16.50Stanzillabasicly we have one child in the guild that always causes trouble
16:17.03Stanzillaand that volcano sometimes errupts
16:17.09nevcairielKick him?
16:17.10znfgkick
16:17.13nevcairiel:d
16:17.17Stanzillanot my call but yeah :D
16:17.21znfgremove actually
16:17.22nevcairielOr is it you?
16:17.25Stanzillanope
16:17.27znfwhy didn't they ever make a gkick command? :-(
16:17.37nevcairielI thought they had that
16:17.50znfno, it's gremove :(
16:17.54znfand it asks for a realm name
16:17.55nevcairielBut its been years since I was an officer
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16:18.18znfMy guild is currently having the yearly discussion of "should we change the loot system?"
16:18.20nevcairielAnd I would probably use the UI
16:18.34znfwhich ends up in "nope, let's keep this, not worth the trouble"
16:18.49Repobig-wigs: 03nebula169 * r11862 Highmaul/KargathBladefist.lua: KargathBladefist: localize Blade Dance bar
16:19.17nevcairiel..and I don't remember when I had to kick someone
16:19.23nevcairielSome inactives maybe
16:19.35znfwe kick for funsies
16:19.56*** kick/#wowace [znf!nev@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Ace3/nevcairiel] by nevcairiel (funsies)
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16:20.04znfyup, pretty much that
16:20.24nevcairielNo guild auto rejoin!
16:20.58znfso, item links?
16:22.08znfoh
16:22.09znffound it
16:22.10znfdear $deity
16:24.57znfuhm, what's a "Pristine" item?
16:25.53Stanzillaupgraded
16:26.34StanzillaI always wanted to kick znf
16:26.48znfWhy does it have a different itemId? :-/
16:27.45znfI don't really understand the new itemlinks
16:30.20nevcairielPristine are crafted items that for upgraded using one of the crafting upgrades. Not sure if it exists outside of that
16:30.50znfAh.
16:31.08znfhttp://wowpedia.org/Patch_6.0.1/API_changes
16:31.12znfthe itemlinks are confusing :(
16:32.57quiescensgo to sleep
16:33.14Repogrid: 03Phanx * r1657 Statuses/GridStatusAuras.lua:
16:33.14Repo- Remove default statuses for auras removed in WoD (eg. Grace)
16:34.38Repogrid: 03Phanx * r1658 GridLayoutLayouts.lua: - Add by group 20 layouts
16:35.47Repobig-wigs: 03nebula169 * r11863 Highmaul/TwinOgron.lua:
16:35.47RepoTwinOgron: add "Warmup" time to first set of abilities, add count to Quake, prescan for Shield Charge target,  add Blaze damage, add Arcane Volatility and marker, add Arcane Wound
16:37.50znfwait, is there some raid testing going on?
16:37.57Stanzilla...
16:38.00Stanzillado it again, nevcairiel
16:38.16znf:-(
16:38.20znfI was busy!
16:38.35*** mode/#wowace [+o Stanzilla] by nevcairiel
16:38.40nevcairielDo it yourself
16:39.56FiskerI'm sad nevcairiel
16:40.16FiskerAll I got from that datamining was a linux-based miracast adapter from Microsoft and an Android-based "cast adapter" from dell
16:40.18Fisker:(
16:41.18znf>linux-based miracast adapter from Microsof
16:41.19znf:o
16:41.22znflinux! microsoft!
16:41.34quiescensgo to sleep znf
16:42.26*** mode/#wowace [-o Stanzilla] by nevcairiel
16:42.35nevcairielThere went your chance
16:42.38znfnow can I get @ ?
16:43.13*** mode/#wowace [-o znf] by nevcairiel
16:43.31znf:-(
16:44.26FiskerShield Tablet Blackberry version 4.4.2
16:45.20nevcairielWat
16:45.47FiskerJust looking through these 8000 pages I downloaded
16:46.31quiescensthat sounds like a lot of effort
16:48.02Fiskergarmin gps running android? O_o
16:48.14Repobig-wigs: 03nebula169 * r11864 Highmaul/Brackenspore.lua: Brackenspore: tweak strings
16:49.12Timmehfor addons on the beta, still TOC 60000 required? or does "load out of date addons" load 50400 addons as well now?
16:49.40nebula169Timmeh: works now
16:49.50Timmehcool
16:49.52Timmehthx
16:51.14Fiskerwut
16:51.17Fiskerbestbuy makes tablets
16:59.19AdirelleGuardians of the Galaxy is quite fun
17:00.43FiskerYou're quite fun
17:00.44Timmehnevcairiel: did you have a location of WoD working addons? :-D
17:01.03Timmehgoing to try and get some AddOns working on the beta then
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17:22.35Stanzillanevcairiel: damn, was afk eating
17:23.04StanzillaTimmeh: load out of date works but the checkbox in the ui does not, so you have to set it in the config or via console command
17:27.03Fiskerdoctor who soon
17:27.10Fiskerthe hype
17:27.26znfDoctor who sucks
17:27.55Fiskerhey Stanzilla lets beat up znf
17:28.06Stanzillayay gypsy party
17:28.34sbOK
17:28.55znfDr Who still sucksy
17:30.05FiskerBut at least we beat you up znf
17:30.11TorhalI think znf sucks.
17:30.34znfBut I like you, Torhal
17:30.42znfDon't like Dr who though
17:31.00TorhalThere's a huge difference between "I don't like Doctor Who," and "Doctor Who sucks."
17:31.06Torhal:D
17:31.08TorhalJust saying.
17:31.37TorhalThe former, you're conveying your opinion. The latter, you're attempting to elicit a negative response.
17:31.50Stanzilladoctor who is amazing but I think capaldi sucks
17:31.52Stanzillaso far
17:32.29TorhalI don't think I've ever heard a good initial response when there's a new Doctor.
17:34.05quiescenso.o
17:34.47quiescenstennant and smith didn't start too badly
17:35.09sbtennant was amazing :o
17:35.13Stanzilla^
17:35.36TorhalIt always seems to be, when there's a new Doctor, "I liked the old one better."
17:35.44sbyup
17:36.25TorhalJust takes time. Much like a new TV show. If I didn't stick through the first few episodes, there would be plenty of good shows I'd miss out on.
17:37.08TorhalThere is always the chance, though, that the new one will tank everything.
17:37.38quiescensi always think its silly when people see the first episode or two of something and just decide its not worth watching
17:38.34TorhalYar.
17:47.31nevcairielI liked Tennant right away
17:47.44Stanzilla^
17:47.47nevcairielSmith took quite a long time to warm up to
17:47.51Stanzillayes
17:48.57nevcairielIt helped his case that he had Amy, who was really great
17:50.52nevcairielAnyway, what I've seen so far in previews and whatnot, I liked
17:51.02nevcairielHe is more serious
17:51.11sbsmith was too funny
17:51.13sbor trying to be
17:54.21winkfirefly <3
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18:00.32*** join/#wowace Megalon (~wig0r@80-123-0-90.adsl.highway.telekom.at)
18:02.03znfoh c'mon, what's so good about a movie about a dude in a phone booth with a magic screwdriver that fights little hilarious aliens that don't even look menancing? :(
18:02.20Stanzillaeverything
18:02.58znf:-/
18:03.09Fiskermovie?
18:05.06nevcairielDaleks or Cybermen may not look like super evil overlords, but they did put the one or two shivers down my back in their time
18:05.20Gnarfozznf, nevcairiel: unless something changed, TUJ-guy said he basically just needs to motivate himself, then they will be back. (doesn't help that he apparently lacks sufficient db design skills to make his db not constantly require 80k write IOPS (!?))
18:05.35znf80k ?!
18:05.37znfwtf?
18:05.38nevcairielYeah I read that
18:05.47znfI skipped a few pages, it was getting boring
18:05.50znfbut, seriously, 80k?
18:06.35znfI get that there is a lot of data, but that simply sounds insane...
18:06.57nevcairielI can imagine there being quite a bit of data to process, and of course I have no idea about how much load his page got
18:07.00nevcairielBut still
18:07.10znf30k to 90k auctions per each realm, every ~40 minutes
18:07.13znfI guess that's something...
18:07.28znfmultiplied by 2 factions
18:07.49nevcairielIf I were more bored I would just write my own, even if I have no idea how to automate auction data extraction. :D
18:08.08nevcairielSoon only one faction
18:08.35znfwonder how large his DB is
18:08.48nevcairielCan't be that much data
18:08.58znfwonders how feasable is to store it in ramdisk
18:09.16nevcairielI would just let the db do its caching thing
18:09.33nevcairielMuch more efficient use
18:10.03znfhow effective is cache writing?
18:10.36znfthat is simply filling up a buffer then writing it to disk, right?
18:10.39znfor how does that work?
18:11.21znf(he did mention he doesn't have issues with read performance, just writes)
18:11.51nevcairielWhy would it be writing so much anyway, worst case throttle updates a bit
18:12.00nevcairielBasic site usage shouldn't be writing
18:12.39znfhe mentioned that just the updates are driving up his IOPS count
18:12.51znfsaid something about EU recently changing to 40min updates
18:12.59nevcairielSounds like he is insane
18:13.37znfgood, so it's not just me
18:15.04Gnarfoz[18:59:05] <Adirelle> Guardians of the Galaxy is quite fun <-- still not out here... brrr
18:15.22znfSeen it on Thursday
18:15.22nevcairielNext week
18:15.24znfit was fun, indeed
18:15.42nevcairielHope I can walk again soon to go see it with my friends
18:15.54znfI didn't see the point of casting Vin Diesel as Groot, though
18:16.01znflike... could just have had CGI
18:16.10nevcairielDoctor better say something positive when I go to see him!
18:16.10Gnarfozmeh, caught up
18:16.13Gnarfozhi guise
18:16.42nevcairielIts alive!
18:17.13Gnarfozyeah, TUJ guy seems convinced that "that's just how it is" even though none of what he says he's doing should require that amount of horsepower
18:17.49Gnarfozdidn't really use the site, so *shrug* don't really care if it goes away
18:18.07nevcairielI used it for a time when I tried to make a bit more gold
18:18.09znfit was very useful to see the price of mats
18:18.12Gnarfozif it comes back he said he's going to rewrite it, but I doubt that includes the DB
18:18.33nevcairielBut honestly you could plug it into an add on, saves the whole uploading data business
18:18.52znfHow?
18:19.08znfIt takes 50 minutes to do a full scan of my realm
18:19.15nevcairielNeed to visit the AH occasionally for scans of course
18:19.18znfby the time you're done with it, you have to start over
18:19.29nevcairielUsing fast scan mode?
18:19.35znfthat craps out at 45k auctions
18:19.45znf(or 35k?)
18:19.54nevcairielWorks on my new realm
18:20.13Stanzillawe're kinda dead though
18:20.15znf>The auction addon (Auctioneer) has a "Getall" fast auction house scan option that is currently broken on larger servers due to a roughly 43,000 auction limit that appears to be set server-side.
18:20.16znfthere
18:20.17znf:P
18:20.18znf43k
18:20.26znfmy realm has 90k+ on a regular basis
18:20.30GnarfozI thought that disclaimer was really really old
18:20.39nevcairielYeah needs retesting
18:20.46quiescensgo test it znf
18:21.09nevcairielStanzilla: the merge with horde may do a bit for the AH, but who knows
18:21.24znfunless they changed it in 6.0...
18:21.28znfwhich I can't test :P
18:21.49Stanzillaour horde is superdead, too
18:21.51Stanzilla:()
18:22.11nevcairielCould test on the beta, but there isn't going to be 90k auctions there
18:22.15Gnarfoz9.63% still on XP http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/ ... what
18:23.31nevcairielSays 4.69 here o.o
18:23.33znfEU - Kazzak / Horde alone averages 18,842,066g. which is 99 % of the realm's total, ranking this faction's auction house #5 out of total 574 auction houses in the region.
18:23.48znf#5 EU :P
18:24.21znfoh, cool
18:24.27znfour realm is now #4 on realmpop
18:24.51Gnarfoznevcairiel: right - I meant the summary graph top center, the one that also includes DX10/11 GPU
18:25.15nevcairielGraphs don't work for me
18:25.23nevcairielNo flash on the phone
18:25.37GnarfozoO didn't realize they were flash
18:25.44Gnarfozyeah, FusionCharts, meh
18:25.54quiescensthe system ram.. breakpoints should probably be changed
18:26.08nevcairielGuess a bunch of people still use dx9 cards then?
18:26.23Gnarfoz12GB and higher is at almost 12%, crazy
18:26.39quiescensthe 5, 7, 9, 10, 11gb markers aren't really ever going to be very.. useful
18:26.41quiescenslol
18:27.01nevcairielThere are people with like 7
18:27.03Gnarfoz2.18% have 7 GB ram
18:27.10nevcairielHow do you even do that
18:27.19Gnarfozby putting in odd amounts~
18:27.23znf2+2+2+1
18:27.28Gnarfozor bad detection on Steam's part
18:27.41quiescensor people with non dedicated video cards
18:27.43nevcairielI would hope that is more likely
18:27.49Gnarfozmaybe it's 8 with more than 512 of it dedicated to video
18:27.52Gnarfozso it rounds down to 7
18:29.02quiescensis it odd that they have ram up to 12gb
18:29.08quiescensand cpu's up to 24
18:29.24Gnarfoza bit
18:29.34quiescensraise your hand if you're running more than 20 cpu's with less than 12gb of ram
18:29.50chosicrickets
18:31.26nevcairielIt should really be labeled cores, CPUs sounds wrong
18:32.43Gnarfozparticularly since they're reporting physical cores, not logical
18:33.07Gnarfozsomeone with 2 hexa-core CPUs with hyper-threading I could imagine (=24 threads), but... 24 physical cores?
18:33.25GnarfozI fucking hate Oracle
18:33.36nevcairielThat's one dedicated gaming rig
18:33.37Gnarfozguess I'll turn controlfile autobackup off :|
18:33.59nevcairielEven I wouldn't start building dual CPU. :D
18:34.26GnarfozI want 2 copies of everything I back up, but I somehow always end up with 1 (or even 2) additional controlfile/spfile copies... if I then do "delete obsolete", it deletes the older copy on the NFS
18:34.40Gnarfozand I end up with my only copy(/ies) being on the same disks
18:34.53Gnarfozshould look into using 3rd party something ~~
18:35.20nevcairielnever admined oracle
18:35.25Gnarfozshould have made the boss pay for increasing our EE license instead of buying a separate standard edition
18:35.33Gnarfozway less headaches :D
18:35.41Gnarfoz(also, tons more money, lolol)
18:35.48nevcairielWe had weird DBAs for that who we could yell at to get moving already
18:36.08Gnarfozthat's supposed to me, hehe
18:36.12Stanzillanevcairiel
18:36.20nevcairielWut
18:36.23Stanzilladoes bartender save the bindings per profile
18:36.26Stanzillaor rely on blizzard
18:36.33nevcairielBlizzard
18:36.37Stanzillafak
18:36.59nevcairielMuch easier. :P
18:37.05Stanzillafor you, yeah
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18:37.57nevcairielI suppose I could add an option yo save them in a profile
18:38.01quiescenssilly *foz
18:38.11nevcairielIts not really that much effort
18:38.13Stanzillanevcairiel: that was my next question
18:38.15Stanzillawould be cool
18:38.17TimmehStanzilla: what config file is the out-of-date addon stuff in?
18:38.23Timmeh(just saw your message)
18:38.27Stanzillaconfig.wtf
18:38.33nevcairielI accept payment in SoO HC gear
18:38.36nevcairiel:D
18:38.53Stanzillanot my call :D
18:39.07StanzillaI think a full hc clear is around 500k gold atm
18:39.20TimmehStanzilla: ah, the checkAddonVersion thing?
18:39.25StanzillaTimmeh: yes
18:39.30Timmehalright thanks
18:39.35nevcairielI never owned that much gold in my entire wow life
18:40.03Stanzillapeople pay up 200 euro even for flex
18:40.04Stanzillait's insane
18:40.10Timmehsrsly? o.o
18:40.10nevcairielWut
18:40.12Stanzillayes
18:40.24Timmehbrb, quitting my job
18:40.44quiescenswhat are you going to do instead o.o
18:40.52nevcairielFlex is so easy
18:41.11nevcairielI'd only pugs wouldn't insist on having flex gear to go flex
18:41.12Timmehrun people through flex all day
18:41.18nevcairielThe system is backwards
18:41.34Timmehnevcairiel: I know right
18:42.03quiescensits pretty much been like that for years though hasn't it?
18:42.15quiescenseven before your new fangled raid group systems
18:42.36quiescenswhen we formed our pug raids by spamming chat channels in random capital cities
18:42.43nevcairielIf I find no real raid in WoD I'm going to run a normal/heroic flex with the new group finder, and if I have to lead my own fair and open minded group! :d
18:43.04quiescenssure you will
18:43.50nevcairielI already lead raids when you were still a calf running around mulgore!
18:44.53nevcairielI just burned out from raiding and leading at some point and never found a proper way back to just light raisingw
18:44.57nevcairielRaiding*
18:46.47Repobig-wigs: 03nebula169 * r11866 BlackrockFoundry/Gruul.lua: Gruul: Flare timer
18:47.15nevcairielBut seriously, with the group finder it should hopefully be possible to build a decent raid without draconian requirements
18:47.39nevcairielOr you know, I'll just avoid trying to join the fun much too late
18:48.13Fiskernevcairiel
18:48.30nevcairielFisker
18:48.34Fisker:O
18:48.55FiskerI'm scared
18:49.05nevcairielBetter be!
18:49.55quiescensnev is pretty op
18:50.19Reposetcollector: 03lomiedo * r7  (5 files in 1 directory): Replaces Minimap button logic with LibDBIcon-1.0
18:56.43FiskerHe's definitely pretty quiescens
18:59.45FiskerCan I hate you nevcairiel ?
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19:02.29Repobig-wigs: 03nebula169 * r11867 Highmaul/Brackenspore.lua: Brackenspore: fix Rot
19:02.38Stanzillagreat fix
19:04.23Stanzillachrome tree is alive
19:07.48StanzillaRe-add the commit position after the lastchange value can
19:07.49Stanzilla+  # accept strings longer than 64 characters.
19:07.51Stanzillahah
19:07.59Stanzillano wonder nobody thought of that
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19:20.25FiskerI killed you stsan
19:20.26Fiskerdamnit
19:20.29FiskerI didn't then
19:20.37Stanzillanope, didn't
19:20.51StanzillaI'm watching git like a hawk, Fisker
19:21.00Fiskerok good
19:21.00Fiskerwhy?
19:21.07Stanzillaboredom
19:22.02znfFap
19:29.03Stanzillaactually doing flex atm
19:34.32FiskerI once flexed a guy
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19:47.34StanzillaFisker: did he flex back though
20:00.40Fiskerfgsfds
20:02.19Repobig-wigs: 03nebula169 * r11868  (10 files in 2 directories): TheButcher: add Night-Twisted Cadaver warnings (mythic)
20:06.49Fiskermy kingdom for a doctor Stanzilla
20:07.17Stanzillanot yet out
20:16.47Stanzillanow it is
20:17.08StanzillaTO THE DOWNLOAD MOBILE
20:18.30RepoNew addon: Mob Kill Count - http://www.wowace.com/addons/mob-kill-count/
20:34.29FiskerI am at the download mobile Stanzilla
20:35.07Stanzillasame
20:35.18Fisker15kB/s!
20:35.49nevcairiel4.14MB/s
20:35.52Stanzilla1,2mb/s
20:36.52nevcairielaaand done
20:37.12Stanzillacheater
20:37.23Fiskerhaker
20:37.57nevcairielI downloaded at home and now I stream it to my tablet
20:38.39Stanzillais your server at home running?
20:38.45StanzillaI mean at real home
20:39.37Fiskerwow rude Stanzilla
20:39.45nevcairielYeah
20:39.57Stanzillawhy Fisker
20:40.01nevcairielI would be so terribly bored otherwise
20:40.01Fiskersuper rude
20:40.17nevcairielMy whole music and video library lives there
20:40.39nevcairielAnyhow, watching now
20:40.44FiskerI want some seeds on this there torrent
20:40.49Stanzilla2min
20:40.49Stanzilla:<
20:41.40Fiskerthere we go
20:41.42Fisker5MB/s
20:42.09Repobig-wigs: 03nebula169 * r11869 Highmaul/Margok.lua: Margok: remove TANK flag from intermission add warnings
20:42.28Stanzillawatching~~~bye
20:42.35Fiskerhttp://i.imgur.com/WQY0Hgd.png
20:42.36Fiskerthe horror
20:42.37Fiskerbye Stanzilla
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21:43.53Reposetcollector: 03lomiedo * r8  (3 files in 1 directory):
21:43.53RepoAdded Classic, Burning Crusade and Wrath of the Lich King Legendary Sets
21:55.42Repobig-wigs: 03nebula169 * r11871 BlackrockFoundry/Darmac.lua: Darmac: refactor dismounting
21:59.51StanzillaTHAT WAS GREAT
22:00.11TorhalTHAT WAS 75 MINUTES
22:00.30FiskerYou were great
22:00.37StanzillaI was
22:00.41Stanzillaso was the doctor
22:01.15FiskerI has an annoying bug on my openelec
22:01.41FiskerVideo stream just stops for like 30 seconds every few minutes
22:02.12TorhalStab it.
22:02.30FiskerSo I'm running Plex on it and chromecasting it instead
22:05.16Repobig-wigs: 03funkydude * r11872 / (4 files in 4 directories): TOC fixes
22:08.19StanzillaFisker: what do you use it for? xmbc?
22:08.38Stanzillaoh
22:08.45Stanzillawasnt scrolled
22:08.46Stanzillaheehehehehe
22:09.41znfscrolls Stanzilla
22:10.35znfI need new storage and a new server :-(
22:10.50FiskerXbmc?
22:10.54FiskerKodi pls
22:11.56znfthe new name sucks
22:12.11FiskerBest name eu
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22:47.47EthanCentaurainevcairiel: is this of interest to you? http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/intel-haswell-e-preorder-prices-maxict,news-48670.html
22:50.36Repobig-wigs: 03funkydude * r11873  (2 files in 2 directories):
22:50.36RepoOptions: Add temp names for WoD zones. If we click on a panel with no modules registered (e.g. clicking beta zones on live) then draw a blank panel rather than erroring.
23:11.57Reposetcollector: 03lomiedo * r9 Core.lua: Corrects ADDON name case issue (Ticket #1)
23:21.14Repobig-wigs: 03funkydude * r11874 Loader.lua: bump DBM faker
23:22.01Repobig-wigs: 03funkydude 04r11875-release * r11875 : Tagging as r11875-release
23:27.06Reposetcollector: 03lomiedo * r10  (2 files in 1 directory): Updates database after failed creation in earlier release.
23:28.23znfgot damn it, I hate samba4
23:32.32Reposetcollector: 03lomiedo 04v1.1.1 beta * r11 :
23:32.32RepoIncludes bug fixes, Minimap button enhancements and additional Legendary items.
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