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11:17.58 | *** topic/#wowace is WoD Beta Access http://goo.gl/eVsdYQ | http://wowace.com/ | 5.4.x ToC: 50400 | http://wowace.com/paste/ | http://lua.org | This channel is logged, via purl |
11:24.46 | Stanzilla | yeah I saw |
11:27.07 | i0 | thanks a bunch nevcairiel |
11:33.01 | nebula169 | do custom sounds not work in beta? i just noticed PlaySoundFile doesn't work o.O |
11:33.20 | nevcairiel | it was broken a bit ago, yes |
11:37.24 | Stanzilla | oh today is chrome git flag day |
11:38.09 | Fisker | penis? |
11:38.33 | Stanzilla | nope |
11:38.39 | Fisker | I once killed a guy |
11:51.36 | sb | we know |
11:51.39 | sb | it was bad |
11:53.17 | Fisker | :( |
11:57.46 | quiescens | killing people is wrong ): |
11:58.49 | nevcairiel | killing cows however results in deliciousness |
12:26.41 | nevcairiel | you know what i really hate, people that like start prospecting in raids and spam everything with their shit, and you have to scroll way up to see if someone made any assignments |
12:29.06 | quiescens | o.o |
12:34.39 | nevcairiel | 8/12 runestones, and 8 more bosses in SoO that can drop them, wonder if i have any luck today |
12:37.44 | elvador | beta lfr so far: http://i.imgur.com/QbQJRBD.png |
12:38.33 | Adirelle | nevcairiel, that's why I have a "spam" chat window, I only keep important channels in the main windows |
12:46.05 | nevcairiel | Adirelle: i could probably disable other peoples craft entirely |
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12:46.23 | nevcairiel | no idea when i would ever care |
12:46.54 | nevcairiel | guess needs an addon though to do that filtering |
12:47.02 | nevcairiel | default doesnt have that fine-grained control |
12:47.11 | EthanCentaurai | Good aftermorning! o/ |
12:48.24 | Adirelle | morning |
12:49.32 | Adirelle | I have the feeling that animations and c_timers with very small durations are run in the frame they are started on beta, which is not the case on live |
12:52.16 | Adirelle | this affects C_Timers and animation-based timers (AceTimer) alike, but not OnUpdate-based timers |
12:52.20 | Stanzilla | 4th sourcetree update in a week lol |
12:52.22 | Stanzilla | broken much |
12:53.45 | nevcairiel | Adirelle: like what small durations is that? |
12:53.51 | nevcairiel | AceTimer doesnt really do below 0.1 anyway |
12:54.05 | Adirelle | 0.1 is apparently safe, 1e-5 got it everytime |
12:54.47 | nevcairiel | thats way below the frame interval, so running it at 0 is much closer to the desired time than running it at the next frame :P |
12:54.58 | Adirelle | I had a update that caculates the delay to next update dynamically (e.g. no need to update a minute display every second) |
12:55.54 | Adirelle | but when it is showing tenth of second and the value gets close to 0, it used very small vlaues |
12:56.10 | Adirelle | which caused another update the same frame, and boom, infinite recursion, client freezes |
12:56.17 | nevcairiel | at 60 fps, frame interval is 0.016 seconds, so running anything below say 0.008, its closer to the desired time to run it now, instead of wait until 0.016 |
12:57.00 | Adirelle | did not ever trigger "the script ran too long error" since technically this was different executions |
12:57.18 | Adirelle | just added a max(0.1, duration) to solve it |
12:57.50 | Adirelle | however, this never happened on live, so I suppose they changed something |
12:58.28 | nevcairiel | btw, acetimer limits it to 0.01 right now |
12:58.37 | nevcairiel | anything below gets set to 0.01 automatically |
12:58.49 | nevcairiel | did you actually encounter it with acetimer? |
12:59.02 | nevcairiel | below 0.01 caused failures with the animation on live too |
12:59.27 | nevcairiel | although it seemed to not fire at all then |
12:59.49 | Adirelle | yep, this was freezing with acetimer, which I used on live |
13:00.06 | Adirelle | I changed to C_Timers in my wod branch, but this was happening as well |
13:00.41 | Adirelle | (I meant: this was happening with my "live code using AceTimer" with the WoD client) |
13:00.42 | nevcairiel | maybe we should just add a trick to ensure its delayed by one frame |
13:01.09 | nevcairiel | or get some US person to ask |
13:01.18 | nevcairiel | since C_Timer is new, maybe they'll elaborate |
13:01.30 | Adirelle | I reported it on the EU forum, but I has little hope it had any effect |
13:02.45 | Adirelle | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/11235473529#13 |
13:03.38 | Adirelle | given how repeating C_Timers work, this can be give "interesting" results |
13:04.25 | nevcairiel | they did at one time say they would recommend OnUpdates for very low timers |
13:04.39 | Adirelle | oh |
13:04.40 | nevcairiel | ie. anything that runs every frame or every other frame, use OnUpdate |
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13:06.33 | Adirelle | in my case, a 0.1 minimum delay is fine |
13:07.02 | Adirelle | not sure what (or if something) should be done to AceTimer |
13:07.15 | nevcairiel | wonder if thats more extreme if youre on very low fps |
13:07.18 | nevcairiel | i shall try later |
13:07.36 | Adirelle | hrm, interesting question |
13:08.31 | nevcairiel | incidentally, this system is very low fps :P |
13:08.38 | Fisker | btw Stanzilla |
13:08.59 | Fisker | did you see they certified the volantis tablet? |
13:09.14 | Stanzilla | no |
13:09.22 | Fisker | So they might just actually release the new nexus devices next month |
13:09.36 | Fisker | http://certifications.prod.wi-fi.org/pdf/certificate/public/download?cid=WFA54709 |
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13:14.59 | nevcairiel | hrm, 9/12 and only 4 bosses left, guess no luck this week |
13:15.06 | nevcairiel | stupid buff isnt working |
13:15.19 | Adirelle | nevcairiel, on the WoD client, this code with a duration below 1e-3 display 10 identical numbers: /run C_Timer.NewTicker(duration, function() print(GetTime()) end, 10) |
13:15.36 | Adirelle | whatever the FPS actually is |
13:16.05 | Adirelle | i.e. I limited the FPS to 8 using the advanced settings, this had the same result |
13:16.54 | Adirelle | in the other hand, with 1e-3 or higher, the FPS is imposing a minimal duration, e.g. 0.125 at 8 FPS |
13:18.06 | Adirelle | that looks like some precision issue, i.e. times and duration are rounded to lowest 1e-3 (or said otherwise, they store time in milliseconds as interger) |
13:18.13 | Adirelle | s/interger/integer/ |
13:18.54 | nevcairiel | but acetimers limit is 0.01, ie 1e-2, if we switch it over to C_Timer it should never go below that |
13:19.54 | nevcairiel | and they did say its only ever checked once per frame, so the fps would impose the resolution |
13:20.17 | Adirelle | checking AceTimer |
13:20.44 | nevcairiel | right now its still animations of course |
13:23.37 | quiescens | moo |
13:25.29 | Adirelle | nevcairiel, you're right, it enforces a 0.01 delay |
13:25.42 | Adirelle | so how the fuck did this caused the client de freeze ? |
13:25.47 | Adirelle | s/de/to/ |
13:28.37 | Adirelle | gonna have to do some more testing... |
13:28.45 | Adirelle | but I don't have much time |
13:28.46 | Adirelle | later |
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13:43.11 | quiescens | o.o |
13:43.14 | quiescens | now there's two of them |
13:43.32 | EthanCentaurai | many Adirelles! handle it! |
13:44.37 | EthanCentaurai | while true { Adirelle++ } |
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13:48.13 | quiescens | ethan must have broked it |
13:48.24 | EthanCentaurai | :( |
13:48.35 | EthanCentaurai | the infinite loop cause a crash |
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14:09.09 | Repo | big-wigs: 03nebula169 * r11857 Highmaul/TheButcher.lua: TheButcher: fix Frenzy soon message |
14:10.34 | Repo | big-wigs: 03nebula169 * r11858 Highmaul/KargathBladefist.lua: KargathBladefist: fix Berserker Rush and Impale |
14:23.05 | Repo | bugsack: 03Phanx * r276 (3 files in 1 directory): - Fixed error when clearing a search |
14:23.05 | Repo | - Add project ID to TOC |
14:23.05 | Repo | - Add svn:externals for developer convenience |
14:25.11 | Stanzilla | roar |
14:25.49 | Repo | basic-combo-points: 03funkydude * r89 (2 files in 1 directory): Use RegisterUnitEvent. |
14:28.25 | Fisker | you're a roar |
14:28.26 | Repo | basic-combo-points: 03funkydude 04v3.47 * r90 : Tagging as v3.47 |
14:31.36 | Repo | big-wigs: 03nebula169 * r11859 Highmaul/Brackenspore.lua: |
14:31.36 | Repo | Brackenspore: give the different fungus their own options, remove HEALER from friendly shrooms |
14:48.44 | Repo | bartender4: 03Nevcairiel 07WoD * 4.5.13.2-12-g56a3339 (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Fix warrior stance handling. Berserker Stance is gone, Gladiator Stance is new. |
14:55.13 | Repo | bugsack: 03funkydude * r277 (3 files in 2 directories): Revert addition of svn:externals, sorry but no thanks. |
14:55.13 | Repo | Revert addition of X-Curse-Project-ID, this is automatically added by the Curse packager so it would end up in the file twice, and is otherwise useless. |
14:55.13 | Repo | I've left X-WoWI-ID as it may serve some form of purpose? (I doubt it) |
14:57.35 | Repo | bartender4: 03Nevcairiel 07WoD * 4.5.13.2-13-g4819848 StateBar.lua: [+1 commit] Remove Incarnation: Tree of Life bar stance, it was broken. |
14:58.09 | nevcairiel | hm this is kinda cool, they have a glyph now that makes druid travel form run at mount speed, and its still instant cast |
14:58.15 | nevcairiel | how did i miss that |
14:58.47 | nevcairiel | the only problem, for some weird reason its exclusive with the glyph that makes you not look like a stag <.< |
14:59.13 | znf | silly glyph |
15:00.46 | EthanCentaurai | I like my Stag Form separate. Why can I only pick one? #FirstWorldDruidProblems |
15:01.11 | nevcairiel | it only becomes useless once you have stables L3 for the mount speed bonus, then you better ride |
15:01.27 | znf | How much is the bonus, btw? |
15:02.35 | EthanCentaurai | They added a glyph for Shaman ghost wolf form too. |
15:02.55 | nevcairiel | although i guess there is also the guild bonus still for 10%, no idea if thats going away in WoD, i lost the overview which guild bonus are just going away entirely |
15:04.05 | znf | So, question, should I bother (again) paying 10⬠for my custom Visa Card? (with my own photo) |
15:04.11 | znf | I seem to have lost my batman one :( |
15:04.48 | nevcairiel | who cares |
15:05.13 | znf | I need to ask for a replacement, not sure if I should bother getting a batman one again :-| |
15:05.20 | znf | (plus it takes days to get approval on the design) |
15:06.20 | Repo | big-wigs: 03nebula169 * r11860 Highmaul/Brackenspore.lua: |
15:06.20 | Repo | Brackenspore: sound and flash on Creeping Moss if you have a flamethrower |
15:08.31 | Fisker | mmmm Stanzilla |
15:08.36 | Fisker | lemon meringue pie |
15:10.55 | Stanzilla | ok |
15:12.46 | Fisker | It's coming next month |
15:12.48 | Fisker | it must! |
15:12.58 | znf | beats Fisker with a vague bat |
15:13.00 | nevcairiel | if with next month you mean october |
15:13.24 | Funkeh` | I guess they've changed something with the timings on animations with rotations, my sexymap rotations are going nuts |
15:13.26 | znf | Seriously, why do you have to be so vague every damn time? :-| |
15:13.28 | Fisker | Might as well release everything simultanously nevcairiel |
15:14.00 | Fisker | Because it's better that way znf |
15:14.15 | nevcairiel | znf: obviously he is talking about android "L", although i dont think thats the actual confirmed name |
15:14.27 | EthanCentaurai | I'm so vague... You probably think this song is about you, don't you... |
15:14.35 | Fisker | not officially no |
15:14.37 | Fisker | http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/08/23/lmp-lemon-meringue-pie-looking-more-and-more-likely-as-the-official-name-for-android-l/ |
15:14.47 | Fisker | but suggests it may be |
15:15.10 | Fisker | And I'm saying L next month along with Nexus 9 |
15:15.26 | znf | so Nexus 9 is made by HTC? |
15:15.54 | Fisker | Just datamining the wifi certification thingy so I can see if they upload but hide motorola stuff |
15:15.58 | nevcairiel | I might buy a N9 tablet |
15:16.14 | znf | so who will make the nexus 6? |
15:16.16 | nevcairiel | my old samsung is so butt slow and drains battery like crazy these days |
15:16.24 | Fisker | Denver Tegra K1 best Denver |
15:16.45 | Stanzilla | and L for older devices (like mine :() another month later |
15:17.10 | nevcairiel | is N4 = older, and N5 = newer? |
15:17.10 | nevcairiel | :D |
15:17.18 | Fisker | Infact I'm also calling that Blizzard is developing Hearthstone on Nexus 9 |
15:17.20 | Stanzilla | yes |
15:17.48 | Stanzilla | why would you think so, Fisker |
15:17.50 | nevcairiel | I might play a bit more hearthstone if i could play it on a tablet |
15:18.00 | Fisker | The performance Stanzilla |
15:18.02 | Fisker | THE PERFORMANCE |
15:18.39 | Stanzilla | same, nevcairiel |
15:18.43 | Stanzilla | on the toilet or so |
15:18.54 | znf | so, Nexus 6? Any news? |
15:18.54 | Fisker | I hope they add voip then |
15:18.57 | Fisker | mandatory |
15:19.05 | Fisker | none yet |
15:19.21 | znf | but there will be a nexus device (phone) this year, right? |
15:19.28 | Fisker | Probably maybe yes |
15:19.38 | Funkeh` | I thought it was going to be motorola that is doing n6 |
15:19.43 | Fisker | Probably maybe yes |
15:20.41 | Fisker | sofar I've grabbed about 1500 wifi certifications |
15:20.52 | Fisker | 1500 being 404 |
15:21.08 | Fisker | When I'm done I just need to stitch them together |
15:21.43 | znf | stiches Fisker together with a vague bat |
15:22.01 | Fisker | That wasn't even vague |
15:22.03 | nevcairiel | znf: just keep up to date with tech stuff and you always know what he is on about! |
15:22.41 | nevcairiel | has been trolling around several tech news sites every couple hours hoping for more X99/HSW-E/DDR4 news |
15:23.16 | Fisker | I'm waiting for a haswell that ends well |
15:23.50 | Fisker | Or maybe I should just wait for a lake of skies |
15:26.29 | Funkeh` | I'm waiting for a sky of lakes |
15:28.00 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: if you got a PM from the our forum, just ignore it |
15:28.11 | Stanzilla | I'm not sure if my script sends it for guild members, too |
15:28.51 | Fisker | oh man |
15:28.55 | Fisker | time to take out the vague bat znf |
15:29.21 | Fisker | haha Funkeh` bought blands -1 |
15:29.24 | Fisker | how silly |
15:29.26 | znf | ...clearly |
15:29.47 | Funkeh` | why is that silly |
15:29.55 | Fisker | 4-pack or bust |
15:30.27 | Funkeh` | well it was £15 off for the next 2 days |
15:30.31 | Funkeh` | so s/hrug |
15:31.22 | Fisker | £15? |
15:31.23 | Fisker | wow |
15:36.17 | quiescens | o.o |
15:38.00 | Fisker | 2000 to go |
15:38.08 | Kalroth | pls |
15:40.08 | Stanzilla | Fisker: I don't like the design of the moto x+1 |
15:40.14 | Fisker | Nope |
15:40.16 | Stanzilla | so I hope the n6 is somethign different |
15:40.19 | Fisker | Looks like a stretched out moto x :( |
15:41.27 | Fisker | But I wonder what the sensors are |
15:41.42 | quiescens | magic |
15:41.59 | Fisker | Want ban quiescens ? |
15:42.18 | Kalroth | well they are kinda magic |
15:42.34 | Kalroth | magic carpet ride |
15:42.55 | Fisker | I sneezed |
15:44.36 | Fisker | Anyway I'm getting blands -1 for free Funkeh` |
15:44.48 | Funkeh` | nice |
15:48.39 | Kalroth | why free, what makes you so special, better than the rest of us |
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15:53.20 | Fisker | Nothing Kalroth |
15:53.40 | Kalroth | it's not fair |
15:58.29 | Fisker | 500 to go |
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16:06.31 | nevcairiel | stanzilla: you and your weird scripts |
16:06.52 | Stanzilla | yeah you don't even want to see that one :D |
16:07.02 | nevcairiel | But I got nothing |
16:07.10 | Stanzilla | ok fine |
16:08.34 | nevcairiel | But I noticed I can read things now :) |
16:08.41 | Stanzilla | yep |
16:09.36 | nevcairiel | Not that there is much talk |
16:10.01 | Fisker | wonder what script it was |
16:10.34 | nevcairiel | Forums seem to be kinda dead for most guilds |
16:13.03 | znf | didn't I read some snippet about how the item links are supposed to work in WoD? |
16:13.23 | znf | I mean, the new stuff that's supposed to be in them? |
16:13.43 | Fisker | sadface |
16:13.45 | Fisker | there was nothing |
16:13.54 | znf | like, if item has socket or stuff like that |
16:14.08 | Fisker | So I have this 8000-page pdf document for nothing |
16:14.51 | Stanzilla | so Opera just renamed their dev builds from "Opera Developer" to "Opera developer" |
16:15.19 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: and yes, we are not a very forum active guild |
16:15.27 | Stanzilla | it has some flame wars here and there though |
16:15.52 | Stanzilla | hah, you can even read the last one |
16:16.14 | nevcairiel | My last raid guild was the same way. A bit of flame, a bit of "I won't be here tonight" |
16:16.16 | znf | AskMrRobot should do e better job with RoboCouncil :-( |
16:16.50 | Stanzilla | basicly we have one child in the guild that always causes trouble |
16:17.03 | Stanzilla | and that volcano sometimes errupts |
16:17.09 | nevcairiel | Kick him? |
16:17.10 | znf | gkick |
16:17.13 | nevcairiel | :d |
16:17.17 | Stanzilla | not my call but yeah :D |
16:17.21 | znf | gremove actually |
16:17.22 | nevcairiel | Or is it you? |
16:17.25 | Stanzilla | nope |
16:17.27 | znf | why didn't they ever make a gkick command? :-( |
16:17.37 | nevcairiel | I thought they had that |
16:17.50 | znf | no, it's gremove :( |
16:17.54 | znf | and it asks for a realm name |
16:17.55 | nevcairiel | But its been years since I was an officer |
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16:18.18 | znf | My guild is currently having the yearly discussion of "should we change the loot system?" |
16:18.20 | nevcairiel | And I would probably use the UI |
16:18.34 | znf | which ends up in "nope, let's keep this, not worth the trouble" |
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16:19.17 | nevcairiel | ..and I don't remember when I had to kick someone |
16:19.23 | nevcairiel | Some inactives maybe |
16:19.35 | znf | we kick for funsies |
16:19.56 | *** kick/#wowace [znf!nev@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Ace3/nevcairiel] by nevcairiel (funsies) |
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16:20.04 | znf | yup, pretty much that |
16:20.24 | nevcairiel | No guild auto rejoin! |
16:20.58 | znf | so, item links? |
16:22.08 | znf | oh |
16:22.09 | znf | found it |
16:22.10 | znf | dear $deity |
16:24.57 | znf | uhm, what's a "Pristine" item? |
16:25.53 | Stanzilla | upgraded |
16:26.34 | Stanzilla | I always wanted to kick znf |
16:26.48 | znf | Why does it have a different itemId? :-/ |
16:27.45 | znf | I don't really understand the new itemlinks |
16:30.20 | nevcairiel | Pristine are crafted items that for upgraded using one of the crafting upgrades. Not sure if it exists outside of that |
16:30.50 | znf | Ah. |
16:31.08 | znf | http://wowpedia.org/Patch_6.0.1/API_changes |
16:31.12 | znf | the itemlinks are confusing :( |
16:32.57 | quiescens | go to sleep |
16:33.14 | Repo | grid: 03Phanx * r1657 Statuses/GridStatusAuras.lua: |
16:33.14 | Repo | - Remove default statuses for auras removed in WoD (eg. Grace) |
16:34.38 | Repo | grid: 03Phanx * r1658 GridLayoutLayouts.lua: - Add by group 20 layouts |
16:35.47 | Repo | big-wigs: 03nebula169 * r11863 Highmaul/TwinOgron.lua: |
16:35.47 | Repo | TwinOgron: add "Warmup" time to first set of abilities, add count to Quake, prescan for Shield Charge target, add Blaze damage, add Arcane Volatility and marker, add Arcane Wound |
16:37.50 | znf | wait, is there some raid testing going on? |
16:37.57 | Stanzilla | ... |
16:38.00 | Stanzilla | do it again, nevcairiel |
16:38.16 | znf | :-( |
16:38.20 | znf | I was busy! |
16:38.35 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Stanzilla] by nevcairiel |
16:38.40 | nevcairiel | Do it yourself |
16:39.56 | Fisker | I'm sad nevcairiel |
16:40.16 | Fisker | All I got from that datamining was a linux-based miracast adapter from Microsoft and an Android-based "cast adapter" from dell |
16:40.18 | Fisker | :( |
16:41.18 | znf | >linux-based miracast adapter from Microsof |
16:41.19 | znf | :o |
16:41.22 | znf | linux! microsoft! |
16:41.34 | quiescens | go to sleep znf |
16:42.26 | *** mode/#wowace [-o Stanzilla] by nevcairiel |
16:42.35 | nevcairiel | There went your chance |
16:42.38 | znf | now can I get @ ? |
16:43.13 | *** mode/#wowace [-o znf] by nevcairiel |
16:43.31 | znf | :-( |
16:44.26 | Fisker | Shield Tablet Blackberry version 4.4.2 |
16:45.20 | nevcairiel | Wat |
16:45.47 | Fisker | Just looking through these 8000 pages I downloaded |
16:46.31 | quiescens | that sounds like a lot of effort |
16:48.02 | Fisker | garmin gps running android? O_o |
16:48.14 | Repo | big-wigs: 03nebula169 * r11864 Highmaul/Brackenspore.lua: Brackenspore: tweak strings |
16:49.12 | Timmeh | for addons on the beta, still TOC 60000 required? or does "load out of date addons" load 50400 addons as well now? |
16:49.40 | nebula169 | Timmeh: works now |
16:49.50 | Timmeh | cool |
16:49.52 | Timmeh | thx |
16:51.14 | Fisker | wut |
16:51.17 | Fisker | bestbuy makes tablets |
16:59.19 | Adirelle | Guardians of the Galaxy is quite fun |
17:00.43 | Fisker | You're quite fun |
17:00.44 | Timmeh | nevcairiel: did you have a location of WoD working addons? :-D |
17:01.03 | Timmeh | going to try and get some AddOns working on the beta then |
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17:22.35 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: damn, was afk eating |
17:23.04 | Stanzilla | Timmeh: load out of date works but the checkbox in the ui does not, so you have to set it in the config or via console command |
17:27.03 | Fisker | doctor who soon |
17:27.10 | Fisker | the hype |
17:27.26 | znf | Doctor who sucks |
17:27.55 | Fisker | hey Stanzilla lets beat up znf |
17:28.06 | Stanzilla | yay gypsy party |
17:28.34 | sb | OK |
17:28.55 | znf | Dr Who still sucksy |
17:30.05 | Fisker | But at least we beat you up znf |
17:30.11 | Torhal | I think znf sucks. |
17:30.34 | znf | But I like you, Torhal |
17:30.42 | znf | Don't like Dr who though |
17:31.00 | Torhal | There's a huge difference between "I don't like Doctor Who," and "Doctor Who sucks." |
17:31.06 | Torhal | :D |
17:31.08 | Torhal | Just saying. |
17:31.37 | Torhal | The former, you're conveying your opinion. The latter, you're attempting to elicit a negative response. |
17:31.50 | Stanzilla | doctor who is amazing but I think capaldi sucks |
17:31.52 | Stanzilla | so far |
17:32.29 | Torhal | I don't think I've ever heard a good initial response when there's a new Doctor. |
17:34.05 | quiescens | o.o |
17:34.47 | quiescens | tennant and smith didn't start too badly |
17:35.09 | sb | tennant was amazing :o |
17:35.13 | Stanzilla | ^ |
17:35.36 | Torhal | It always seems to be, when there's a new Doctor, "I liked the old one better." |
17:35.44 | sb | yup |
17:36.25 | Torhal | Just takes time. Much like a new TV show. If I didn't stick through the first few episodes, there would be plenty of good shows I'd miss out on. |
17:37.08 | Torhal | There is always the chance, though, that the new one will tank everything. |
17:37.38 | quiescens | i always think its silly when people see the first episode or two of something and just decide its not worth watching |
17:38.34 | Torhal | Yar. |
17:47.31 | nevcairiel | I liked Tennant right away |
17:47.44 | Stanzilla | ^ |
17:47.47 | nevcairiel | Smith took quite a long time to warm up to |
17:47.51 | Stanzilla | yes |
17:48.57 | nevcairiel | It helped his case that he had Amy, who was really great |
17:50.52 | nevcairiel | Anyway, what I've seen so far in previews and whatnot, I liked |
17:51.02 | nevcairiel | He is more serious |
17:51.11 | sb | smith was too funny |
17:51.13 | sb | or trying to be |
17:54.21 | wink | firefly <3 |
17:56.30 | Repo | big-wigs: 03nebula169 * r11865 / (18 files in 2 directories): populate locales |
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18:02.03 | znf | oh c'mon, what's so good about a movie about a dude in a phone booth with a magic screwdriver that fights little hilarious aliens that don't even look menancing? :( |
18:02.20 | Stanzilla | everything |
18:02.58 | znf | :-/ |
18:03.09 | Fisker | movie? |
18:05.06 | nevcairiel | Daleks or Cybermen may not look like super evil overlords, but they did put the one or two shivers down my back in their time |
18:05.20 | Gnarfoz | znf, nevcairiel: unless something changed, TUJ-guy said he basically just needs to motivate himself, then they will be back. (doesn't help that he apparently lacks sufficient db design skills to make his db not constantly require 80k write IOPS (!?)) |
18:05.35 | znf | 80k ?! |
18:05.37 | znf | wtf? |
18:05.38 | nevcairiel | Yeah I read that |
18:05.47 | znf | I skipped a few pages, it was getting boring |
18:05.50 | znf | but, seriously, 80k? |
18:06.35 | znf | I get that there is a lot of data, but that simply sounds insane... |
18:06.57 | nevcairiel | I can imagine there being quite a bit of data to process, and of course I have no idea about how much load his page got |
18:07.00 | nevcairiel | But still |
18:07.10 | znf | 30k to 90k auctions per each realm, every ~40 minutes |
18:07.13 | znf | I guess that's something... |
18:07.28 | znf | multiplied by 2 factions |
18:07.49 | nevcairiel | If I were more bored I would just write my own, even if I have no idea how to automate auction data extraction. :D |
18:08.08 | nevcairiel | Soon only one faction |
18:08.35 | znf | wonder how large his DB is |
18:08.48 | nevcairiel | Can't be that much data |
18:08.58 | znf | wonders how feasable is to store it in ramdisk |
18:09.16 | nevcairiel | I would just let the db do its caching thing |
18:09.33 | nevcairiel | Much more efficient use |
18:10.03 | znf | how effective is cache writing? |
18:10.36 | znf | that is simply filling up a buffer then writing it to disk, right? |
18:10.39 | znf | or how does that work? |
18:11.21 | znf | (he did mention he doesn't have issues with read performance, just writes) |
18:11.51 | nevcairiel | Why would it be writing so much anyway, worst case throttle updates a bit |
18:12.00 | nevcairiel | Basic site usage shouldn't be writing |
18:12.39 | znf | he mentioned that just the updates are driving up his IOPS count |
18:12.51 | znf | said something about EU recently changing to 40min updates |
18:12.59 | nevcairiel | Sounds like he is insane |
18:13.37 | znf | good, so it's not just me |
18:15.04 | Gnarfoz | [18:59:05] <Adirelle> Guardians of the Galaxy is quite fun <-- still not out here... brrr |
18:15.22 | znf | Seen it on Thursday |
18:15.22 | nevcairiel | Next week |
18:15.24 | znf | it was fun, indeed |
18:15.42 | nevcairiel | Hope I can walk again soon to go see it with my friends |
18:15.54 | znf | I didn't see the point of casting Vin Diesel as Groot, though |
18:16.01 | znf | like... could just have had CGI |
18:16.10 | nevcairiel | Doctor better say something positive when I go to see him! |
18:16.10 | Gnarfoz | meh, caught up |
18:16.13 | Gnarfoz | hi guise |
18:16.42 | nevcairiel | Its alive! |
18:17.13 | Gnarfoz | yeah, TUJ guy seems convinced that "that's just how it is" even though none of what he says he's doing should require that amount of horsepower |
18:17.49 | Gnarfoz | didn't really use the site, so *shrug* don't really care if it goes away |
18:18.07 | nevcairiel | I used it for a time when I tried to make a bit more gold |
18:18.09 | znf | it was very useful to see the price of mats |
18:18.12 | Gnarfoz | if it comes back he said he's going to rewrite it, but I doubt that includes the DB |
18:18.33 | nevcairiel | But honestly you could plug it into an add on, saves the whole uploading data business |
18:18.52 | znf | How? |
18:19.08 | znf | It takes 50 minutes to do a full scan of my realm |
18:19.15 | nevcairiel | Need to visit the AH occasionally for scans of course |
18:19.18 | znf | by the time you're done with it, you have to start over |
18:19.29 | nevcairiel | Using fast scan mode? |
18:19.35 | znf | that craps out at 45k auctions |
18:19.45 | znf | (or 35k?) |
18:19.54 | nevcairiel | Works on my new realm |
18:20.13 | Stanzilla | we're kinda dead though |
18:20.15 | znf | >The auction addon (Auctioneer) has a "Getall" fast auction house scan option that is currently broken on larger servers due to a roughly 43,000 auction limit that appears to be set server-side. |
18:20.16 | znf | there |
18:20.17 | znf | :P |
18:20.18 | znf | 43k |
18:20.26 | znf | my realm has 90k+ on a regular basis |
18:20.30 | Gnarfoz | I thought that disclaimer was really really old |
18:20.39 | nevcairiel | Yeah needs retesting |
18:20.46 | quiescens | go test it znf |
18:21.09 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla: the merge with horde may do a bit for the AH, but who knows |
18:21.24 | znf | unless they changed it in 6.0... |
18:21.28 | znf | which I can't test :P |
18:21.49 | Stanzilla | our horde is superdead, too |
18:21.51 | Stanzilla | :() |
18:22.11 | nevcairiel | Could test on the beta, but there isn't going to be 90k auctions there |
18:22.15 | Gnarfoz | 9.63% still on XP http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/ ... what |
18:23.31 | nevcairiel | Says 4.69 here o.o |
18:23.33 | znf | EU - Kazzak / Horde alone averages 18,842,066g. which is 99 % of the realm's total, ranking this faction's auction house #5 out of total 574 auction houses in the region. |
18:23.48 | znf | #5 EU :P |
18:24.21 | znf | oh, cool |
18:24.27 | znf | our realm is now #4 on realmpop |
18:24.51 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: right - I meant the summary graph top center, the one that also includes DX10/11 GPU |
18:25.15 | nevcairiel | Graphs don't work for me |
18:25.23 | nevcairiel | No flash on the phone |
18:25.37 | Gnarfoz | oO didn't realize they were flash |
18:25.44 | Gnarfoz | yeah, FusionCharts, meh |
18:25.54 | quiescens | the system ram.. breakpoints should probably be changed |
18:26.08 | nevcairiel | Guess a bunch of people still use dx9 cards then? |
18:26.23 | Gnarfoz | 12GB and higher is at almost 12%, crazy |
18:26.39 | quiescens | the 5, 7, 9, 10, 11gb markers aren't really ever going to be very.. useful |
18:26.41 | quiescens | lol |
18:27.01 | nevcairiel | There are people with like 7 |
18:27.03 | Gnarfoz | 2.18% have 7 GB ram |
18:27.10 | nevcairiel | How do you even do that |
18:27.19 | Gnarfoz | by putting in odd amounts~ |
18:27.23 | znf | 2+2+2+1 |
18:27.28 | Gnarfoz | or bad detection on Steam's part |
18:27.41 | quiescens | or people with non dedicated video cards |
18:27.43 | nevcairiel | I would hope that is more likely |
18:27.49 | Gnarfoz | maybe it's 8 with more than 512 of it dedicated to video |
18:27.52 | Gnarfoz | so it rounds down to 7 |
18:29.02 | quiescens | is it odd that they have ram up to 12gb |
18:29.08 | quiescens | and cpu's up to 24 |
18:29.24 | Gnarfoz | a bit |
18:29.34 | quiescens | raise your hand if you're running more than 20 cpu's with less than 12gb of ram |
18:29.50 | chosi | crickets |
18:31.26 | nevcairiel | It should really be labeled cores, CPUs sounds wrong |
18:32.43 | Gnarfoz | particularly since they're reporting physical cores, not logical |
18:33.07 | Gnarfoz | someone with 2 hexa-core CPUs with hyper-threading I could imagine (=24 threads), but... 24 physical cores? |
18:33.25 | Gnarfoz | I fucking hate Oracle |
18:33.36 | nevcairiel | That's one dedicated gaming rig |
18:33.37 | Gnarfoz | guess I'll turn controlfile autobackup off :| |
18:33.59 | nevcairiel | Even I wouldn't start building dual CPU. :D |
18:34.26 | Gnarfoz | I want 2 copies of everything I back up, but I somehow always end up with 1 (or even 2) additional controlfile/spfile copies... if I then do "delete obsolete", it deletes the older copy on the NFS |
18:34.40 | Gnarfoz | and I end up with my only copy(/ies) being on the same disks |
18:34.53 | Gnarfoz | should look into using 3rd party something ~~ |
18:35.20 | nevcairiel | never admined oracle |
18:35.25 | Gnarfoz | should have made the boss pay for increasing our EE license instead of buying a separate standard edition |
18:35.33 | Gnarfoz | way less headaches :D |
18:35.41 | Gnarfoz | (also, tons more money, lolol) |
18:35.48 | nevcairiel | We had weird DBAs for that who we could yell at to get moving already |
18:36.08 | Gnarfoz | that's supposed to me, hehe |
18:36.12 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel |
18:36.20 | nevcairiel | Wut |
18:36.23 | Stanzilla | does bartender save the bindings per profile |
18:36.26 | Stanzilla | or rely on blizzard |
18:36.33 | nevcairiel | Blizzard |
18:36.37 | Stanzilla | fak |
18:36.59 | nevcairiel | Much easier. :P |
18:37.05 | Stanzilla | for you, yeah |
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18:37.57 | nevcairiel | I suppose I could add an option yo save them in a profile |
18:38.01 | quiescens | silly *foz |
18:38.11 | nevcairiel | Its not really that much effort |
18:38.13 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: that was my next question |
18:38.15 | Stanzilla | would be cool |
18:38.17 | Timmeh | Stanzilla: what config file is the out-of-date addon stuff in? |
18:38.23 | Timmeh | (just saw your message) |
18:38.27 | Stanzilla | config.wtf |
18:38.33 | nevcairiel | I accept payment in SoO HC gear |
18:38.36 | nevcairiel | :D |
18:38.53 | Stanzilla | not my call :D |
18:39.07 | Stanzilla | I think a full hc clear is around 500k gold atm |
18:39.20 | Timmeh | Stanzilla: ah, the checkAddonVersion thing? |
18:39.25 | Stanzilla | Timmeh: yes |
18:39.30 | Timmeh | alright thanks |
18:39.35 | nevcairiel | I never owned that much gold in my entire wow life |
18:40.03 | Stanzilla | people pay up 200 euro even for flex |
18:40.04 | Stanzilla | it's insane |
18:40.10 | Timmeh | srsly? o.o |
18:40.10 | nevcairiel | Wut |
18:40.12 | Stanzilla | yes |
18:40.24 | Timmeh | brb, quitting my job |
18:40.44 | quiescens | what are you going to do instead o.o |
18:40.52 | nevcairiel | Flex is so easy |
18:41.11 | nevcairiel | I'd only pugs wouldn't insist on having flex gear to go flex |
18:41.12 | Timmeh | run people through flex all day |
18:41.18 | nevcairiel | The system is backwards |
18:41.34 | Timmeh | nevcairiel: I know right |
18:42.03 | quiescens | its pretty much been like that for years though hasn't it? |
18:42.15 | quiescens | even before your new fangled raid group systems |
18:42.36 | quiescens | when we formed our pug raids by spamming chat channels in random capital cities |
18:42.43 | nevcairiel | If I find no real raid in WoD I'm going to run a normal/heroic flex with the new group finder, and if I have to lead my own fair and open minded group! :d |
18:43.04 | quiescens | sure you will |
18:43.50 | nevcairiel | I already lead raids when you were still a calf running around mulgore! |
18:44.53 | nevcairiel | I just burned out from raiding and leading at some point and never found a proper way back to just light raisingw |
18:44.57 | nevcairiel | Raiding* |
18:46.47 | Repo | big-wigs: 03nebula169 * r11866 BlackrockFoundry/Gruul.lua: Gruul: Flare timer |
18:47.15 | nevcairiel | But seriously, with the group finder it should hopefully be possible to build a decent raid without draconian requirements |
18:47.39 | nevcairiel | Or you know, I'll just avoid trying to join the fun much too late |
18:48.13 | Fisker | nevcairiel |
18:48.30 | nevcairiel | Fisker |
18:48.34 | Fisker | :O |
18:48.55 | Fisker | I'm scared |
18:49.05 | nevcairiel | Better be! |
18:49.55 | quiescens | nev is pretty op |
18:50.19 | Repo | setcollector: 03lomiedo * r7 (5 files in 1 directory): Replaces Minimap button logic with LibDBIcon-1.0 |
18:56.43 | Fisker | He's definitely pretty quiescens |
18:59.45 | Fisker | Can I hate you nevcairiel ? |
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19:02.29 | Repo | big-wigs: 03nebula169 * r11867 Highmaul/Brackenspore.lua: Brackenspore: fix Rot |
19:02.38 | Stanzilla | great fix |
19:04.23 | Stanzilla | chrome tree is alive |
19:07.48 | Stanzilla | Re-add the commit position after the lastchange value can |
19:07.49 | Stanzilla | + # accept strings longer than 64 characters. |
19:07.51 | Stanzilla | hah |
19:07.59 | Stanzilla | no wonder nobody thought of that |
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19:20.25 | Fisker | I killed you stsan |
19:20.26 | Fisker | damnit |
19:20.29 | Fisker | I didn't then |
19:20.37 | Stanzilla | nope, didn't |
19:20.51 | Stanzilla | I'm watching git like a hawk, Fisker |
19:21.00 | Fisker | ok good |
19:21.00 | Fisker | why? |
19:21.07 | Stanzilla | boredom |
19:22.02 | znf | Fap |
19:29.03 | Stanzilla | actually doing flex atm |
19:34.32 | Fisker | I once flexed a guy |
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19:47.34 | Stanzilla | Fisker: did he flex back though |
20:00.40 | Fisker | fgsfds |
20:02.19 | Repo | big-wigs: 03nebula169 * r11868 (10 files in 2 directories): TheButcher: add Night-Twisted Cadaver warnings (mythic) |
20:06.49 | Fisker | my kingdom for a doctor Stanzilla |
20:07.17 | Stanzilla | not yet out |
20:16.47 | Stanzilla | now it is |
20:17.08 | Stanzilla | TO THE DOWNLOAD MOBILE |
20:18.30 | Repo | New addon: Mob Kill Count - http://www.wowace.com/addons/mob-kill-count/ |
20:34.29 | Fisker | I am at the download mobile Stanzilla |
20:35.07 | Stanzilla | same |
20:35.18 | Fisker | 15kB/s! |
20:35.49 | nevcairiel | 4.14MB/s |
20:35.52 | Stanzilla | 1,2mb/s |
20:36.52 | nevcairiel | aaand done |
20:37.12 | Stanzilla | cheater |
20:37.23 | Fisker | haker |
20:37.57 | nevcairiel | I downloaded at home and now I stream it to my tablet |
20:38.39 | Stanzilla | is your server at home running? |
20:38.45 | Stanzilla | I mean at real home |
20:39.37 | Fisker | wow rude Stanzilla |
20:39.45 | nevcairiel | Yeah |
20:39.57 | Stanzilla | why Fisker |
20:40.01 | nevcairiel | I would be so terribly bored otherwise |
20:40.01 | Fisker | super rude |
20:40.17 | nevcairiel | My whole music and video library lives there |
20:40.39 | nevcairiel | Anyhow, watching now |
20:40.44 | Fisker | I want some seeds on this there torrent |
20:40.49 | Stanzilla | 2min |
20:40.49 | Stanzilla | :< |
20:41.40 | Fisker | there we go |
20:41.42 | Fisker | 5MB/s |
20:42.09 | Repo | big-wigs: 03nebula169 * r11869 Highmaul/Margok.lua: Margok: remove TANK flag from intermission add warnings |
20:42.28 | Stanzilla | watching~~~bye |
20:42.35 | Fisker | http://i.imgur.com/WQY0Hgd.png |
20:42.36 | Fisker | the horror |
20:42.37 | Fisker | bye Stanzilla |
21:39.57 | Repo | big-wigs: 03nebula169 * r11870 BlackrockFoundry/Darmac.lua: Darmac: handle mythic dismounting |
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21:43.53 | Repo | setcollector: 03lomiedo * r8 (3 files in 1 directory): |
21:43.53 | Repo | Added Classic, Burning Crusade and Wrath of the Lich King Legendary Sets |
21:55.42 | Repo | big-wigs: 03nebula169 * r11871 BlackrockFoundry/Darmac.lua: Darmac: refactor dismounting |
21:59.51 | Stanzilla | THAT WAS GREAT |
22:00.11 | Torhal | THAT WAS 75 MINUTES |
22:00.30 | Fisker | You were great |
22:00.37 | Stanzilla | I was |
22:00.41 | Stanzilla | so was the doctor |
22:01.15 | Fisker | I has an annoying bug on my openelec |
22:01.41 | Fisker | Video stream just stops for like 30 seconds every few minutes |
22:02.12 | Torhal | Stab it. |
22:02.30 | Fisker | So I'm running Plex on it and chromecasting it instead |
22:05.16 | Repo | big-wigs: 03funkydude * r11872 / (4 files in 4 directories): TOC fixes |
22:08.19 | Stanzilla | Fisker: what do you use it for? xmbc? |
22:08.38 | Stanzilla | oh |
22:08.45 | Stanzilla | wasnt scrolled |
22:08.46 | Stanzilla | heehehehehe |
22:09.41 | znf | scrolls Stanzilla |
22:10.35 | znf | I need new storage and a new server :-( |
22:10.50 | Fisker | Xbmc? |
22:10.54 | Fisker | Kodi pls |
22:11.56 | znf | the new name sucks |
22:12.11 | Fisker | Best name eu |
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22:47.47 | EthanCentaurai | nevcairiel: is this of interest to you? http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/intel-haswell-e-preorder-prices-maxict,news-48670.html |
22:50.36 | Repo | big-wigs: 03funkydude * r11873 (2 files in 2 directories): |
22:50.36 | Repo | Options: Add temp names for WoD zones. If we click on a panel with no modules registered (e.g. clicking beta zones on live) then draw a blank panel rather than erroring. |
23:11.57 | Repo | setcollector: 03lomiedo * r9 Core.lua: Corrects ADDON name case issue (Ticket #1) |
23:21.14 | Repo | big-wigs: 03funkydude * r11874 Loader.lua: bump DBM faker |
23:22.01 | Repo | big-wigs: 03funkydude 04r11875-release * r11875 : Tagging as r11875-release |
23:27.06 | Repo | setcollector: 03lomiedo * r10 (2 files in 1 directory): Updates database after failed creation in earlier release. |
23:28.23 | znf | got damn it, I hate samba4 |
23:32.32 | Repo | setcollector: 03lomiedo 04v1.1.1 beta * r11 : |
23:32.32 | Repo | Includes bug fixes, Minimap button enhancements and additional Legendary items. |
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