IRC log for #wowace on 20140812

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00:53.28Stanzillaflasks back to main stat only
00:53.32Stanzillachoice too hard
00:53.36znfow :(
00:53.37znfgay
00:54.02Megalon:o
00:58.09Stanzilla@Celestalon: Regarding changes to flasks/enchants in latest build: We overdid it with our initial design for adding stat customization; it was too much.
01:03.43StanzillaA new HD version of the Bulwark of Azzinoth model has been added.
01:03.46StanzillaBEST. CHANGE. EVER
01:04.03pompylol
01:07.10pompyThe  Pygmy Cow (RAF) is a new mount for Recruit a Friend!
01:07.27Stanzillayay have to pay someone again to be my friend
01:07.50Megalondo you pay in sexual favours?
01:07.58Stanzilladepends
01:08.28pompyand Stanzilla https://twitter.com/Celestalon/status/498996600128040960
01:08.47StanzillaI read that
01:09.03Stanzillastill stupid
01:09.10Stanzillahave to regem/enchant for big changes
01:09.24MysticalOSabout as stupid as taunt now locking you out of dps for 6 seconds on a warrior?
01:09.40MysticalOSultraxion trash, now 60 seconds longer
01:10.06Stanzillayes about that
01:10.36Stanzillahttp://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2014/august/bulwarkHDC.jpg
01:10.43MysticalOSi'm going to ask where are the patch notes that make ret paladins change stances and lose ability to dps to cast taunt. :)
01:11.06Megalonthose changes got lost on the way out
01:11.36MysticalOSuntil i lookeded at bottom, i thought the new one was right side
01:11.38MysticalOSit looks worse
01:14.40Stanzillapompy: @TheCrafticus: Everyone please calm down.  The pygmy cow is NOT a RAF mount.
01:17.57Megalonbut what if i WANT a pygmy raf mount
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01:22.05pompylol
01:27.28NeffiStanzilla: I was like "wait that looks worse" and then I realized
01:27.48Stanzilla:D
01:27.52Stanzillabeta's up
01:28.20Stanzillaor not
01:28.24Stanzillahe deletred that tweet
01:28.25Stanzillafucker
01:35.52NeffiWhat was that old addon on WowAce (back when we had the Ace Updater) that added features to items/inventory. It wasn't a bag addon; it had features to like ctrl-right-click to split stack, etc
01:36.58NeffiOh wait, it was Fence
01:37.33TorhalNeffi: http://www.wowace.com/addons/fence/
01:37.51NeffiTorhal: yeah, I found it. Google is amazing.  "wowace addon clicks module"
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01:44.57StanzillaI think I broke him http://i.imgur.com/BQwMOvL.jpg
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04:44.58Stanzillaboobs
04:45.51Stanzillaslightly mad at toybox, looks like I might need to farm argent tournament shit again :<
04:47.49FiskerHehe boobs
04:48.13Stanzillahehee
04:56.59MysticalOSstanzilla, i have to level in pandaria again, cause toybox is too dumb to check quest completion for all the shit i deleted for space
04:57.15Stanzillayeah same
04:57.22MysticalOSthe one thing I didn't delete, isn't even in the toybox (ruthers)
04:57.23Stanzillahaven't kept alll the shit
04:57.35MysticalOShow is ruthers not in toybox!!
04:57.43MysticalOShe's THE bad yak
05:01.55nevcairielJust because quest stuff doesn't show up in the toy box on the beta, this may change on live. They don't usually do such migration tasks when copying chars
05:02.18Stanzillayeah indeed
05:02.20Stanzillawe'll see
05:02.31Stanzillamore concerned about the other shit I have to farm :D
05:03.04nevcairielQuests are easy to track. It would be kinda sad if they didn't unlock those at least
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05:03.42Stanzillayup
05:07.33StanzillaHAH
05:07.37Stanzillafound the golden banana on an alt
05:08.46quiescensgrats
05:08.53znffinds quiescens dead
05:08.53quiescenso.o
05:09.18quiescensgives znf a cookie
05:09.25znfcookieeeeeeez
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05:20.20znf>Power Girl is the Earth-Two counterpart of Supergirl and the first cousin of Kal-L, Superman of the pre-Crisis Earth-Two.
05:20.20znfwat
05:20.34znfearth-two? supergirl? counterpart? cousin? pre-crissi?
05:20.56Stanzillayou should read more comics
05:22.37znftoo many comics
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05:23.51znfI sometimes get confused as hell about DC and Marvel
05:25.22nevcairielSupergirl even appeared in smallville!
05:25.48Neffinot canon!
05:25.58znfI didn't watch Smallville
05:26.21Neffiactually I guess canon is kinda meaningless in the comic universe, where it's pretty normal to spin off an alternate universe every week because writing plot is hard
05:26.37nevcairielHehe
05:26.50Stanzillasure feeels like that sometimes, yeah :D
05:34.26quiescensi never liked that
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05:40.23znfand we never liked you, quiescens
05:40.25znfwhat's your point? :D
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05:58.53quiescens):
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06:30.18sbmornign
06:30.37sbboobs?
06:32.34sbgoing to "silence" a coworker soon, whistling for 10minutes now...
06:33.13Neffiis he a bird?
06:33.26quiescenso.o
06:33.33quiescenskilling your coworkers is wrong sb
06:34.29sbNeffi: not sure :|
06:41.56sbbut its over now!
06:42.10sbquiescens: didnt kill him
06:43.20TorhalDuct tape and spackle?
06:44.33quiescenstar and feather?
06:45.00Torhalcontemplates far and teathering quiescens.
06:45.11TorhalDoesn't quite have the same ring to it.
06:50.34Fiskerhey Stanzilla
06:50.44FiskerI got a golden banana
06:52.33Kalrothhot
06:53.25bluspacecowi sleepy quiescens
06:53.40TorhalYou should let bluspacecow have his keyboard back, sleepy.
06:53.54bluspacecowLOL
06:53.55TorhalOh, wait. I misread.
06:54.06Torhals/, sleepy/, sleepy quiescens/
06:54.19bluspacecow<PROTECTED>
06:54.22Torhalpeers intently at purl.
06:54.27TorhalNope, bluspacecow.
06:54.29quiescenssilly torhal
06:54.36TorhalNope, just Torhal.
06:54.36quiescensgives blu a cookie
07:08.57FiskerStanzilla
07:08.59FiskerI need a tester
07:09.11FiskerAre you the person for the job?
07:17.22Stanzilladepends
07:19.14StanzillaFisker: what is it
07:23.50Fiskerhttp://repo.steampowered.com/download/SteamOSInstaller.zip
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07:26.22Stanzillaand then?
07:26.53FiskerWell looks like it's mostly confirmed now
07:26.57FiskerIt doesn't work properly
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07:27.04FiskerIt appears we get cut off at 6MB
07:27.18TorhalYou wouldn't download an OS.
07:27.19Fiskerother places in the world it disconnects at other places in the download
07:27.19Stanzillayeah
07:27.26FiskerI know it's so piracy Torhal
07:29.01hasteFisker: here it just stops on HTTP request sent, awaiting response...
07:29.13hasteaand it started
07:30.22hasteConnection closed at byte 2097152. :D
07:34.04TimmehI get 6 MB!
07:34.04Timmehwoo!
07:38.45Timmeh32 MB!
07:38.53quiescens\o/
07:46.48sb0b
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08:06.43quiescensdies.
08:18.47Repobroker-portals: 03crazybenny 041.8.36 * r189 : Tagging as 1.8.36
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09:19.16Repocooldownbuttons: 03Netrox 07master * 9624b5e  (33 files in 6 directories): [new, +216 commits] (212 truncated)
09:19.16Repo9624b5e: email adress removed, no longer available
09:19.16Repo1198f12: CooldownButtons: toc bump & lib repack
09:19.16Repobd092b6: CooldownButtons: - fixed grow from center option
09:19.16Repo7e70521: CooldownButtons: - added check for spells with CD >= 1hr (like Mobile Banking) that they can set to hidden in options - added options to hide Items on cooldown. they had to be on CD once in the session
09:24.58FiskerYou germans are credit to team Stanzilla
09:25.23quiescensteam stanzilla?
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09:30.51Repocooldownbuttons: 03Netrox 07master * 9811ba6  (5 files in 3 directories): [+10 commits] (6 truncated)
09:30.51Repo9811ba6: allow "grow from center" if multirow is enabled
09:30.51Repo8ef8353: always show rowspacing option
09:30.51Repo9b93ff3: update option name and description
09:30.51Repo83424f3: SVN -> Git
09:32.24Fiskeryep quiescens
09:33.06SunTsuanybody here running curse client on linux/wine? I'm sick and tired of updating all my addons from VCS and downloading stuff by hand
09:43.50sbFisker: whats team stanzilla? :(
09:45.09sb@project cooldownbuttons
09:46.20Repocooldownbuttons: 03Netrox 07master * 4e73578  (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] workarround versioning bug
09:56.07Repocooldownbuttons: 03Netrox 07master * 438ca5c  (10 files in 3 directories): [+2 commits]
09:56.07Repo438ca5c: remove comments
09:56.07Repodb9f3b0: update repository url
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11:05.44sbStanzilla: somebody should fix druid eclipse stuff in WA
11:06.02sbsomeone? meh, i hate this :D
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12:14.11EthanCentauraiI think my mouse is dying.
12:14.25EthanCentauraiIt thinks single clicks are double or triple clicks.
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12:36.11EthanCentauraiIs the beta crashing every 10 seconds for anyone else?
12:36.21nevcairieldidnt try todays build yet
12:36.50EthanCentauraiI think they broke something. :/
12:36.57quiescensi vote we blame ethan
12:37.15sbor sacrifice the quiescens
12:37.37nevcairielseems fine so far
12:40.45EthanCentauraiit says Error 0 assertion failure in Collide.ccp
12:41.09nevcairieli just ran around my garrison for a couple minutes and it seemed fine
12:41.28EthanCentauraiI'll try a different character
12:42.45bluspacecowhmmm
12:42.55bluspacecowbeen playing off and on for the last 8 hrs so
12:42.57bluspacecowso no
12:46.21EthanCentauraiMight be Orgrimmar is bugged atm
12:46.27EthanCentauraiShattrath seems ok
12:47.45quiescensmaybe it is just ethancentaurai
12:47.46quiescenso.o
12:48.03Kalrothit's probably Fisker
12:48.30Fiskermaybe it's maybeline
12:48.53Kalrothyou leave line out of this
12:49.20EthanCentauraiChances are it's my 8-year-old iMac is no longer compatible with WoW. :P
12:49.37EthanCentaurai5
12:49.39EthanCentaurainot 8
12:49.55quiescens8 years is a long time
12:50.12EthanCentauraiit is indeed
12:59.07Fiskerhey Stanzilla
12:59.14Fiskerhyped?
12:59.33Fiskerhttp://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2014/08/11/tegra-k1-denver-64-bit-for-android/
13:03.40sbno.
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14:44.00EthanCentauraiHow do I git merge/rebase properly?
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14:44.54nevcairielyou'll need to expand on that
14:45.00EthanCentauraiMy GitHub and Curse repos have kinda branched off from one another because I fail
14:45.12EthanCentauraiHow can I bring them back in sync?
14:45.39nevcairielis there one you want to keep, or do both have changes you want to merge into one?
14:46.00EthanCentauraiI'd like to merge into one if possible
14:46.13EthanCentauraithe github repo has the most up-to-date code
14:46.23EthanCentauraiexcept for two changes I pushed to curse and not github
14:48.09EthanCentauraiwhich method should I use and how do I do it properly?
14:48.14nevcairielso add the curse repo as a second remote, then checkout the curse master (ie. git checkout -b curse curse/master), then rebase it ontop of github (git rebase master) and then go back to github and merge the changes (git checkout master, git merge curse)
14:48.48nevcairielor you know, just use a plain merge
14:49.05nevcairiellikes rebasing though
14:49.56EthanCentauraiI guess I did something wrong last time I tried :B
14:49.58EthanCentaurailemme try again
14:50.24EthanCentauraiit kept saying either "curse is an invalid git word" or something about needing a single revision
14:54.25nevcairielyou need to have a branch, sounds like you tried to simply use the remotes name
14:55.48EthanCentauraiI recloned it from GitHub first
14:56.15EthanCentaurainow it says "fatal: cannot update paths and switch to branch 'curse' at the same time"
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15:04.59nevcairielthen create the branch first and just reset it to the curse master
15:05.14nevcairielgit checkout -b curse && git reset --hard curse/master
15:07.40EthanCentauraifatal: ambiguous arguement "curse/master": unknown revision or path not found
15:08.31nevcairieldid you actually add a remote with that name? :d
15:08.44EthanCentauraiyep :B
15:08.51nevcairielare you sure? :P
15:09.17EthanCentauraiyep
15:09.28EthanCentauraifatal: remote "curse" already exists
15:09.33nevcairielif you have a remote called "curse" and curse has a branch named "master", then this command should work
15:09.58nevcairielunless you name your branches weirdly
15:10.12EthanCentauraiI don't use branches except for the defaults
15:10.49nevcairielwhats the curse project?
15:10.51EthanCentauraiI have two remotes, that's about it
15:10.54EthanCentauraichinchilla
15:11.05EthanCentaurai~blame ckknight
15:11.06purlACTION blames ckknight (and Canada) for all the evil in the world
15:11.16nevcairiellets see whats up with that thing
15:13.04nevcairielso, i clone your github thing
15:13.18EthanCentauraiaye, I first cloned it from github then added the curse remote
15:13.32nevcairieloh, did you run git remote update so it actually downloads it?
15:13.49EthanCentauraino :B
15:13.55nevcairielthen do that :P
15:14.03EthanCentauraiI didn't know such a command existed
15:14.12EthanCentauraistarts again
15:14.50nevcairieli just followed my own steps and it worked perfectly \o/
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15:19.52EthanCentauraiI think it worked \o/
15:20.17nevcairielthen just push the result to both places, and dont let it desync again ;)
15:22.01EthanCentaurainow PuTTY is moaning :B
15:22.03EthanCentauraione sec
15:28.51TorhalStanzilla: http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?p=329960#post329960
15:29.14EthanCentauraistarts again... again
15:29.35EthanCentauraithink I might just do a merge and be done with it
15:29.45nevcairielwhy did you fail now
15:29.56EthanCentauraiwhen I git push to curse, it says "rejected: non-fast-forward:
15:30.02EthanCentauraihow do I solve that?
15:30.09nevcairielgit push -f
15:30.30EthanCentauraiI am not very good at this.
15:30.38nevcairielstick to svn? D:
15:30.47EthanCentauraiHow do you guys put up with me. :P
15:34.10EthanCentauraiIs there a way to convert git to svn? :P
15:34.22nevcairielnot really
15:35.23nevcairielthe only way i know would lose a bunch of information, ie. the commit dates for example
15:36.45Repochinchilla: 03EthanCentaurai 07master * v2.6-24-gc791de8 /: [forced -2 +8] Apparently a module’s :OnEnable() is called before the core’s :OnInitialize().
15:37.27EthanCentauraiI'll stick to git then.
15:37.46EthanCentauraiI just need to make sure I don't end up desyncing again.
15:37.53EthanCentauraiwhat was that alias Adirelle had?
15:38.07nevcairielif you always work on the same pc, just set it up to push to both places at the same time
15:38.23nevcairielif you move around, you'll need to set this up on all other pcs as well
15:38.44EthanCentauraiI use the one machine, though I formatted it recently
15:38.55TorhalDropBox or similar for your config files.
15:39.51nevcairielEthanCentaurai: just open the .git/config file, and copy the "url =" entry from the curse remote and place it into the origin remote, so that you have two urls there
15:39.56nevcairielthen it'll always push to both
15:41.18EthanCentauraigood idea
15:41.23EthanCentauraithanks :)
15:41.40EthanCentaurainow I just need to figure out why PuTTY isn't liking my SSH hey
15:42.25nevcairielyou did manage to push just now
15:42.37EthanCentauraiaye but it won't let me push to github
15:43.02EthanCentauraiif it ain't one thing...
15:43.14nevcairielgithub doesnt use ssh keys
15:43.27nevcairielor well, not sure if they allow you to, but its not the recommended way
15:43.37nevcairieli had to setup a netrc file for github
15:44.13EthanCentauraithis is how github forces you to use their app :/
15:44.28nevcairielnot really
15:44.32nevcairieljust need to setup a netrc file :D
15:45.56EthanCentauraiI never had these issues when I was on MacOS >.<
15:46.18TimmehI push to github with ssh keys
15:46.39Timmehnever tried it from Windows, though o.o
15:47.08Timmehhttps://github.com/settings/ssh
15:47.19nevcairielhm
15:47.27nevcairielguess it was google code that didnt allow ssh at all
15:48.03Timmehwhat other ways are there to authenticate a push to github?
15:48.03EthanCentauraiI shut down PuTTY
15:48.05nevcairielyou need the netrc if you clone over https instead of ssh, or so
15:48.07EthanCentauraithat fixed it
15:48.13Timmehah
15:49.12nevcairielfor some reason i had a reason to do that
15:49.33nevcairielprobably back when i was at my old job where i couldnt ssh through the proxy
15:50.18TimmehGithub seems to prefer SSH, or at least, they mention it as first option, then mention HTTPS with as remark "less secure, but they work everywhere"
15:50.23Timmehhttps://help.github.com/articles/which-remote-url-should-i-use
15:51.40nevcairielshrug
15:51.56nevcairieli have the netrc file in my dot files now anyway
15:56.41Timmeh\o/
15:56.47Timmehblu is clean!
16:04.47blucleancow*dons robe*
16:04.53bluspacecowwhy yes my dear Timmeh
16:12.11EthanCentauraiblurobedcow
16:15.54bluspacecowblurobeonlikeabosscow
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16:52.53MysticalOSnevcairiel, how is quartz on 6.0?
16:53.23nevcairielNo idea
17:00.06Stanzillahi
17:01.06sbHI
17:03.52Stanzilla29 windows updates + august update
17:04.10Stanzillas/windows/microsoft/
17:05.16MysticalOSStanzilla meant, like 4 updates and 25 security updates. :)
17:05.38Stanzillashush mr os outdated x
17:06.00Fiskerfgsfds Stanzilla
17:06.32MegalonFisker got some Fisker doing stuff?
17:08.16Fiskernope Megalon
17:08.54Megalon:-(
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17:26.56TorhalA wizard did it!
17:27.32Gnarfozyou're a wizard
17:27.34Gnarfozhence, Torhal did it
17:28.15Torhal:/
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17:30.29quiescens\o/
17:30.38quiescensgives torhal a cookie
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18:18.02Gnarfozlol
18:19.33Gnarfozon the phone with my ISP, their call center's VoIP seems to be terribly overcommited/broken (robot voice all the way) (it finally cleared up in the last 2 minutes or so)... she's apparently new on the job and quite confused by all the things I'm asking ;D
18:20.13Gnarfozin a cute way, but I guess that's just my perception as a guy :P
18:20.21FiskerI was told my routers IP was 168.192
18:20.33FiskerI told him "You mean the other way around right?"
18:20.36Fisker"Yeah of course"
18:20.40FiskerThen what's the last two octets?
18:20.44Fisker"Uh 0.1 I think"
18:20.48Fisker(It wasn't)
18:20.51FiskerIt was 100.1 O_o
18:21.39pompyhttp://www.twitch.tv/playstation Bloodborne cinematic and stuff
18:25.30Gnarfozaaaaaaaaaaaagh
18:25.43Gnarfozrobot voice - naturally - came back just 2 minutes after I wrote that
18:25.52Gnarfozthat's horrible, how can you have a call center with VoIP issues
18:26.12Gnarfoz(just in case it's me, I'm going to reset my router, lol)
18:29.37znfStanzilla, are you raid testing?
18:31.50znfI want to raid test :(
18:34.07quiescensgo sleep instead
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18:38.33znfif I were to sleep that much, quiescens
18:38.35znfI wouldn't be on IRC
18:38.40znf(I wish I could sleep that much)
18:43.26Stanzillaznf: yes
18:43.36znfStanzilla, I want in :(
18:43.49Stanzillalearn german
18:43.51znf:-(
18:43.53znfspeak english
18:45.59Stanzillanope
18:46.36EthanCentauraiIch nicht spracht Deutsch, mein Deutsch is nicht so gut.
18:50.01Gnarfozlooking at the stuff before the comma, the part after the comma is true
18:50.58Gnarfozdang, I told support lady to call be back tomorrow evening, hopefully they've unclogged the pipes until then
18:52.02Gnarfozkind of hard to communicate when the other end varies from regular voice, through robot voice, all the way to blips & bleeps & silence
19:09.42Stanzillahttp://www.androidpolice.com/2014/08/12/the-omone-is-a-levitating-bluetooth-speaker-sphere-your-move-gravity/
19:09.43Stanzillawant
19:11.25znfwhat good does it do?
19:11.34znfis the levitating thing more than a gimmick?
19:12.38Gnarfozyeah, is that useful? doesn't having more area to resonate... make it more powerful?
19:13.25FiskerI want that square thing instead
19:14.35znfgimmick I guess
19:16.02Gnarfozalso, obvious candidate for Qi 1.whatever (the new one with greater distance charging)
19:16.08Gnarfozso it levitates there while charging
19:16.09Gnarfoz;D
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19:23.00Fiskerhttp://youtu.be/iqPaeyuDtQo
19:23.03FiskerDo want
19:25.04znfGOD DAMN IT
19:25.08znfI hate people that do shitty links
19:25.19znfsome fucktard made a link that blocked like 7 links :(
19:27.36Gnarfozgiev cube
19:27.41Gnarfozalso http://perezhilton.com/2014-08-12-police-press-conference-robin-williams-death#.U-pmlNySwrI :(
19:31.57znfseriously, I can't believe how fucked up these links are :(
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19:59.46znfGnarfoz, how can someone just destroy a portal in ~5 minutes? :-|
19:59.48znfI don't get it
20:00.02znfwhen I try to destroy a portal, it takes me age
20:00.45Repowim-3: 03mysticalos * r427  (2 files in 2 directories):
20:00.46RepoAvoid hundreds of lua errors in 6.0 when blizzard sends a broken GUID
20:00.49Gnarfozbecause you suck/are low level?
20:00.58Gnarfozdepends on the portal, too
20:01.26Gnarfozwith no shield/links, level 8 XMPs will destroy portals in basically seconds
20:03.42MysticalOSas for the battle.net whisper issue, i can't see any way to fix it until blizzard fixes their own crap
20:15.29znfthat is incredibly gay
20:15.40znfso someone can distruct a portal before I get a notification...
20:16.28Gnarfoznot likely "before", no
20:16.57Gnarfozbut it's not like your tiny XM pool would allow you to do much against it anyway
20:17.02Gnarfozthe only ding you can do from afar is recharge
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20:17.05Gnarfoz*thing
20:17.34znfyeah, I could recharge! :P
20:17.39znfI'm lvl4!
20:17.41znfI have 4k XM! :D
20:18.17Gnarfozgj
20:18.57GnarfozL8 XMPs do 2700 damage
20:19.10Shirikare we talking about ingress?
20:19.26nevcairielNo
20:19.28Gnarfozif you want to join, that statement can be true
20:19.30Shirikyes
20:19.31Shirikstop lying
20:19.44Shirikznf: what faction?
20:19.46nevcairielWe don't endorse ingress over here
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20:19.56Gnarfozshabby enlightened
20:19.59Shirikgood man
20:20.01znfShirik, greens!
20:20.02Shirikdon't listen to Gnarfoz
20:20.16Shirikit's wrong to be afraid of technology
20:20.17znfso how much do shields mean?
20:20.20znfwhat does 30 shield mean?
20:20.22znfor 60 shield?
20:20.25Gnarfozgood question
20:20.27Shirikit's % mitigation
20:20.31znfOh.
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20:20.40znfSo you blow up the shield with Ultrastrike?
20:20.43Shirikno
20:20.50znfuhm? :-(
20:20.53Gnarfozyes.
20:20.55Gnarfozhe is correct
20:21.01Shirikwait what
20:21.03Shirikseriously?
20:21.04Gnarfozbut you don't NEED to do it with an ultra strike
20:21.09ShirikI just knew that XMPs randomly remove it
20:21.26Gnarfozthey will (more or less randomly) also just pop out while you're attacking it the "old fashioned" way
20:21.27Shirikman I wish someone told me that a long time ago
20:21.42Gnarfozultra strikes have a (high) chance to remove 1 of the 4 mods
20:21.49Fiskerznf
20:21.50Gnarfozthat's what they're there for
20:21.54znfif you pop it up on the portal itself, right?
20:21.57znfwhat, Fisker?
20:22.01FiskerWant Denver?
20:22.08znfDenver?!
20:22.09Gnarfozznf: yeah, you need to anyway, since their range is like... 3 meters or so
20:22.40znfoh $deity damn it
20:22.44znfsomeone made a shitty field again
20:22.45znf!@#!#
20:22.48Gnarfozif you're low level, you could probably try throwing Ultra Strikes at enemy portals that have shields - probably less annoying for you than wasting dozens of XMPs on them
20:22.57znfY U NO LOOK @ MAP? :(
20:23.18Gnarfozbecause all fields are worth the same and people have better things to do (and accordingly, get flamed in chat)
20:23.37znfI had planed like ~8 fields
20:23.42znfsomeone made a link, screwed it up :(
20:23.52znfcan't make either of them now, lol
20:24.04Gnarfoznobody knows you planned anything
20:24.15Gnarfozit's not a single-player game ^^
20:24.24znfI know!
20:24.25znfBut... :(
20:24.31Gnarfoz(but don't bank on people waiting long times just so you can make your fields)
20:24.38znfshitty summer
20:24.39Gnarfozadapt, use what is there
20:24.41nevcairielFind a friendly enemy and have him take it down
20:24.42znftourists, go home!
20:24.55Gnarfoznevcairiel: duh. cheating is right up his alley ;p
20:25.01nevcairielIndeed
20:25.47znfbeing low level sucks  :(
20:26.31znfgoing to ding lvl5 tonight, though
20:26.37nevcairielCan you even level properly if your city is dominated by many high levels?
20:26.52Shirikit's harder if you're on the faction that's winning
20:26.57Shirikit's pretty easy if you're on the losing faction
20:27.20Shirikthat being said, I think at level 4 you can do quite a bit of work
20:27.29Shirikeven level 6-7 resonators can be fairly easily destroyed
20:27.34nevcairielAren't most portals pretty high eventually, hard for a lowbie to attack?
20:29.02Gnarfozyou just have to remember to stand on the resonators
20:29.12Gnarfozto maximize the damage output from your crappy low level XMPs
20:29.33Shirikand on top of that the community is generally supportive; I have a guy near me that keeps destroying the very high level enemy portals and leaving them uncontested so that I can pick them up
20:29.34Gnarfoz(the damage fall-off with distance is non-linear, so... it starts getting very weak very quickly)
20:29.41Shirikthen he goes back and upgrades them to secure them after I've gotten the AP
20:30.05GnarfozI think znf is also hampered by being in an area with less usable space than others
20:30.38Gnarfozno portals in the sea ;D
20:30.43ShirikI am hampered by the fact that we have two "zones" that keep passing control back and forth
20:30.47Shirikbut between them is a toll bridge
20:32.44znfyeah, the sea thing is a bitch
20:32.48znfI can't do outside the area portals
20:32.53znfI'm limited to 3 coordinates :P
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20:42.42Gnarfozhttp://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/96655/what-is-the-level-significance-in-xmp-bursters-and-resonators outdated, but the lower answer points out the importance of being *very* close to the resonator
20:43.06Gnarfoz(then move to the other side of the portal, repeat until out of resonators to destroy ;p)
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20:50.01RessyI used like 30 bursters today to take out a portal.
20:50.02Ressy:(
20:52.19znfin other news, so frustrating to wipe in p4 @ garrosh :(
20:52.32ShirikRessy: for a high level portal that seems reasonable
20:53.30ShirikI can't do much work in ingress right now but I'm going on so much travel that I'm going to win at unique keys
20:53.38Gnarfozuh
20:53.40Shirikgot some London keys a few days ago, going to go pick up some indianapolis keys now
20:53.53Shirikthen it's off to DC for more keys
20:53.54Gnarfozunique keys doesn't get you anything, though, except a clogged inventory
20:53.57ShirikI know :P
20:54.05Shirikbut at least it's something I'm winning at
20:54.12Gnarfoztry to get the "unique portals hacked" and "unique portals captured" badges
20:54.14znfdo some x-continent link!
20:54.20Shirikwell that's implied
20:54.28Shirikto get the keys I have to hack obviously
20:54.30Gnarfoz(also, ++ on the non-unique ones)
20:54.33Shirikwell I guess I don't have to, but it makes sense
20:54.36Gnarfoz!
20:54.37Gnarfoz:D
20:54.45Shirikznf: there's no hope in me doing cross-continent linking
20:54.46znfwish you could carry more than one key for a portal, though :-|
20:54.51Shirikyou can
20:54.52Gnarfozyou can.
20:54.54znfhuh?!
20:54.55znfwhat
20:54.56Shirikdrop the key and then hack it
20:54.58znfO.O
20:55.01znf...
20:55.05znfoh
20:55.07znf:-|
20:55.09Gnarfozalso, someone else can drop them.
20:55.14Shirikyeah that too
20:55.25Gnarfozalso, if you destroy links, there's a chance the key that was used will pop out
20:55.28Gnarfozand lie around
20:55.35znf:o
20:55.56znfdidn't know that!
20:56.09Shirikthat's generally my strategy at peak hours
20:56.10Gnarfozbut yeah, "drop, hack, pick up again" is the workaround/hack to get around the current (and probably final for now) behaviour that portals have an extremly high chance to give you a key if you DON'T already have one, and basically a zero chance if you DO
20:56.38Shirikif I want to set up a large field that I know will be interrupted, I try to do a few things that look like general nuisance work
20:56.40Gnarfoz(as with all things that evolve: "it wasn't always how it is now")
20:56.47Shirikand then suddenly set up all the links before they can react
20:57.43Shirikand that usually requires me to have two keys to at least one portal
20:57.52Gnarfozcaveat, thanks to geometry, either that "large" field is very thin, or you can't avoid having to expose your fledgling field to premature destruction while you make the one necessary trip
20:58.09Shirikyeah
20:58.16Gnarfozbut yeah, certainly improves the situation when it's just one mandatory trip, not two
20:58.16Shirikbut it's one trip not two
20:58.45GnarfozI don't bother with making big fields anymore, too many portals around here now
20:59.14Gnarfozwell, I did help as a cleaner on a recent operation that was even mentioned in the Ingress Report
20:59.45GnarfozBaden (France, Atlantic coast), Baden (Switzerland), Baden-Baden (Germany, where I live) \o/
21:00.06Gnarfozfun to take part in, but a nightmare to organize and execute
21:01.12Shirikour area is a complete mess
21:01.21Shirikit basically has no fields because everything's in constant flux now
21:01.31Shirikthe fields that exist generally exist to block the enemy faction from making fields
21:01.33Shirikso they're really tiny
21:01.41Gnarfozheh
21:01.46Gnarfozat least stuff is going on
21:01.54Shirikyeah
21:02.00Gnarfozit's pretty static around here since no enlightened players in town
21:02.12Shiriklike my plan for today when I get a chance is to take down one portal
21:02.20Shirikwhich will bring us back to literally 0 fields for anyone in town
21:02.25Gnarfoz:D
21:02.46Shirikthere's one I see I could set up after that, but I don't think I can do it fast enough
21:03.49Shirikwoah wtf
21:03.53Shirikwhen did enlightened take the lead
21:04.26Shirik260m to 336m
21:05.03GnarfozI don't pay attention to the global score, eitehr
21:05.05Gnarfoz:D
21:05.13Gnarfozgotten quite passive :P
21:05.32GnarfozI like how "the internet" died a bit today
21:06.05Gnarfozby exceeding 512k routing able entries :D
21:08.25znf13% damn it
21:08.35znf<Gnarfoz> by exceeding 512k routing able entries :D
21:08.35znfOh.
21:08.38znfThat's what happened?
21:08.59Gnarfozyeah
21:09.11Gnarfozwell
21:09.14Gnarfozwhat do you mean
21:09.28Gnarfozsounds like what I just said is an explanation to something you were already aware of
21:09.39Gnarfozdid it affect you?
21:10.11znfI had a bit of downtime, thought it was related
21:11.21Gnarfozmaybe if someone used Cisco switches along the way ^^
21:12.20Gnarfozhttp://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2014-August/069174.html
21:19.40Shirik~ping
21:19.40purl~pong
21:21.11Gnarfoz~pong
21:21.11purlping, or also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_video_game
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21:22.06Gnarfozhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0dOP3cx-qk#t=1484 :|
21:27.04Gnarfozsb: lolwut "Michael Harry K. schoss über Jahre vom Fahrerhaus seines Lkw auf andere Lastwagen, die Schalldämpfer baute er sich selbst. Verkehr war für ihn wie Krieg, er habe "andere bestrafen" wollen, sagte der Autobahnschütze nun vor Geri" nevcairiel
21:27.26Megalonlol
21:28.17SunTsuGnarfoz: "Hallo, schiess schonmal auf den Wagen vor uns"?
21:28.37GnarfozI don't think so
21:28.56SunTsuer "Harry"
21:29.27Gnarfozthat makes a little more sense
21:29.27Gnarfoz:D
21:39.34Shiriksooooo
21:39.36Shirikthat was fun
21:39.46Shirikaccidentally just ran a kill -9 on every running process
21:40.03Gnarfozgj
21:40.32Gnarfozyou win today's "remove all safeties and warnings from everything, problems will solve themselves" award
21:40.32Shirikturns out that forgetting the "grep <process name>" in between the `ps` and `kill` commands creates some very amusing results
21:40.43Gnarfozwhich is why you never do that
21:40.55Gnarfozalso why you don't use kill -9
21:41.00Shirikhad to kill -9
21:41.04Shirikit wasn't responding to SIGTERM
21:41.15Gnarfozdid you give it tiiiiime?
21:41.16Gnarfoz:D
21:41.23Shirikyes ._.
21:41.28Gnarfozdid you try other signals? :P
21:41.35Shirikuh
21:41.38Gnarfoz(well, I also never do)
21:41.41ShirikI go straight from SIGTERM to SIGKILL
21:42.09Gnarfozyeah, most people probably do, but WINCH, HUP and some others are also sometimes helpful
21:49.55Repobasic-chat-mods: 03funkydude 04v7.45 * r474 : Tagging as v7.45
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22:15.30znfFUCK YEAH
22:15.33znfDOWN
22:15.33znf\/
22:15.41znfgarrosh hc down
22:15.42znf\o/
22:17.51MysticalOSthis looks like first raid boss that will really put UNIT_TARGETABLE_CHANGED to use
22:19.03znftook us SO many months :-S
22:19.41Gnarfozgj for guild not dying before you did it
22:19.58Gnarfozwtf Ingress
22:20.00Gnarfozy u maek sound
22:21.00znfportals under attack? :D
22:21.31GnarfozI'd go mad if I had that enabled
22:21.39Gnarfoznah, the only one that's enabled is chat highlight
22:21.58znfjesus
22:22.03znfso much adrenaline :D
22:22.59znflol @ our dkp pools
22:23.07znfpeople have like 300dkp+, we haven't killed something in ages :-D
22:23.31Gnarfozwere you using really small numbers for everything?
22:24.21znfwe get 1 DKP / hour
22:28.12znfand we lose 25% on every item looted
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22:55.44znfStanzilla, what the fuck is wrong with Google Keep? :-|
22:55.48znfit's not syncing :-|
22:57.39Stanzillaok
22:57.43Stanzillawanna file a bug with me?
23:06.20Megalonbugs a znf with Stanzilla
23:06.50Stanzillahttp://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/15172830/artcraft-dem-trolls-mon-8-12-2014
23:08.33znfWhere do I file a bug for Google products? :)
23:12.09StanzillaThe best way to send feedback directly to the Google Keep team is to select "Feedback" from the menu (usually three horizontal lines, depending on the device you're on). Thanks for the feedback!
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23:27.04Stanzillabtw gz on garrosh, znf
23:27.08Stanzillaonly 8months late :D
23:30.06Megalonme still got no garrosh :<
23:36.57znfWell...
23:37.37Kesava(Stanzilla: is the packager working?)
23:37.56Kesava(Stanzilla: do everything for me)
23:39.41Stanzillaurm
23:39.43Stanzillasays it's working
23:39.51Kesavapsh
23:40.02Kesavai pushed a tag but it's said "no data available" for at least 5 minutes now
23:40.04Kesava5 minute!
23:40.05Kesavas
23:40.27StanzillaI blame Kaelten
23:40.40Stanzillajust because blaming Torhal is out of date
23:41.00Stanzillawhich project btw?
23:41.10KesavaKuiNameplates
23:42.37StanzillaTorhal: ^^
23:43.39Kesavai've also just generally been having trouble with it saying it wasn't going to pack because it's a beta build, then packaging that very version when i push another tag
23:43.44Kesavaleading to an apparently orphaned tag
23:43.50Kesavabut you know
23:44.40Stanzillathe current packager is a huge pile of shit
23:45.05Kesava:D
23:47.46Stanzillathe new platform has a new packager
23:51.45Megalondoes it consist of a lot of children, packaging everything by hand?
23:52.54znfYay
23:53.06znfDestroyed my first portal

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