IRC log for #wowace on 20140809

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00:13.02Stanzillahey Torhal
00:14.08Stanzillahow do I use a shorthand for a frame name, let's say I do t=EncounterJournalEncounterFrameInfo, how can I do something like t..BG:SetTexture()?
00:20.39TorhalStanzilla: $parentBG should work IIRC.
00:20.48TorhalSame as in the XML.
00:23.12StanzillaTorhal: that's not what I meant though, I want to use it to make a macro shorter
00:23.47TorhalYou said frame name...
00:24.02Stanzillait's really a frame name :D
00:24.23TorhalThen set t to EncounterJournalEncounterFrameInfoBG
00:24.23Stanzillahttp://paste2.org/UXZD9eee
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00:28.26Gnarfozyou could get rid of the two other "/run"'s
00:28.58Stanzillayeah, doesn't change the fact that I want to know how this works thoguh :
00:29.00Stanzillad
00:32.15Gnarfozyou need _G
00:33.19Gnarfozbecause you can bg=_G[t.."BG"]
00:33.30Gnarfozand bg:SetTexture()
00:33.57Gnarfozand there's probably valid syntax that allows _G[t.."BG"]:SetTexture() but I can never remember if it's just that, or more complicated
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00:36.30Repoarl-enchanting: 03resa1983 07master * 5.4.8.3-1-g8ffb531 Recipes.lua: [+1 commit] Revert last change. Neither way is working properly, but they're all removed with WoD, so doesn't matter either way
00:51.43Repoarl-enchanting: 03Torhal 07WoD * 5.4.8.3-7-gefa6c17 /: [+2 commits]
00:51.44Repoefa6c17: Merge branch 'master' into WoD
00:51.44Repo8ffb531: Revert last change. Neither way is working properly, but they're all removed with WoD, so doesn't matter either way
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01:05.42Repoarl-enchanting: 03Torhal 045.4.8.4 * ab0b9dc /: [new tag]
01:15.14MysticalOShate that i just can't fix wim cause all the bugs are blizzard ones
01:15.33MysticalOS703x guid lua errors, why? because blizzard doesn't send the GUID in first whisper, only 2nd
01:16.39Neffisounds like the error is from you not handling that  ;P
01:16.54MysticalOSblizzard shouldn't send garbage data
01:17.38MysticalOSi've coded enough work arounds to blizzard bugs into wim. i'm taking a break from fixing their crap. right now even base UI barely whispers properly
01:17.46MysticalOStry /r on beta :)
01:17.58MysticalOSor even clicking a whisper in chat frame instead
01:18.03MysticalOScause neither have worked since day 1
01:18.16MysticalOSreplying requires opening friends list, and right clicking name to whisper back
01:20.45znfdamn it
01:20.51znfsomeone made a huge field
01:21.00znfand didn't bother with the smaller inner fields :(
01:21.04znfand I wanted to do those smaller ones
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01:30.58Stanzilla~/teamspeak3-server_linux-amd64 $ 2014-08-09 01:24:48.506320|CRITICAL|DatabaseQuery |   | Assertion "error == ERROR_ok" failed at server/serverlib/data                                   base/db_database.cpp:113;
01:30.59Stanzillacool
01:39.22znfpigz is awesome! :D
01:39.55Ressyznf: You can make smaller fields.. just requires you use the portals that make up the big one.
01:40.03RessyIE throw links into the field
01:40.04znfRessy, I know
01:40.10znfyou can't link into the field...?
01:40.57Ressyhttp://decodeingress.me/2012/11/26/ingress-control-fields-links-inside-portals/
01:41.29znfCan we than make link with 2 portals that are inside of control field?
01:41.30znfNo, this is also impossible.
01:41.40znfhttp://i.imgur.com/OgxIc81.png
01:41.44znfI wanted to do the purple links
01:41.46Ressy2 can't be inside. 1 can
01:42.01Ressywrong link?
01:42.08znfooops
01:42.16znfhttp://i.imgur.com/mw5yuRr.png
01:42.30Ressyno.. can't do that.
01:42.42znfofc, the "big" purple one was invalidated by someone linking the red one
01:42.51znfbut I still can't do the purple one below :(
01:43.02Ressybig purple one wouldn't have been able to be done anyways.
01:43.12Ressyyou can only go from 3 outermost portals to any inside.
01:43.19Ressyboth those 2 were inside.
01:43.30znfthe field wasn't there :P
01:43.40Ressyoh
01:45.33znfhttp://i.imgur.com/tN2BQCz.png
01:45.40znfthe markers there weren't linked :P
01:45.46znfand I wanted to the 2 small insides
01:45.58znfnow I feel sorry for repairing the portal on top :D
01:46.07znfI wanted to do the small ones first
01:46.11znfthen the big one that this guy made
01:46.33znfit's kind of shitty that we have the sea on the east :(
01:48.12quiescenswhy?
01:48.25znfcan't create a big field :P
01:48.45znffurthest eastern point is ~50kms away
01:48.49znfin a blue area :(
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01:49.36znfmeh, I think I'll pause playing for 2 days or so
01:49.40znfI'll let stuff decay
01:51.00znfholy shit at this link: http://i.imgur.com/TreFY1l.png
01:51.01znfO.O
01:51.19Ressydidn't you see the big links across africa?
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01:53.34znfno
01:54.17znfwow @ those china ones :-|
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02:27.41znfRessy, is it cheating if I would play with 2 phones? :P
02:27.47znf(and 2 different accounts)
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02:37.16Ressylol
02:37.18Ressythat i dunno
02:43.05znf>Tier 2 - You may remain mounted while interacting with objects in outdoor Draenor zones.
02:43.11znfYeah, mandatory building!
02:43.55znfie: too good to not pick it up
02:53.28quiescens?
02:56.16MysticalOSso, blizz didn't fix green textures correctly :)
02:56.24MysticalOSthe way they fixed it, broke all 3rd party sounds
02:57.21MysticalOSi blame torhal
02:57.55TorhalYou only blame me because I said I'd cover for you. Well, since you decided to go all public-like.
02:58.09MysticalOSit's cause mac client isn't ready yet
02:58.10MysticalOS:)
02:58.20TorhalNOT my fault. In fact, I troll daily.
02:58.46TorhalMaybe if you blamed Kaelten, he'd start trolling as well.
02:59.03Ressyno blaming Kaelten.
02:59.11Ressyits all Torhal's fault.
02:59.33Torhalrewrites shit to make Ressy have to dump profession DBs. For weeks.
02:59.51Kaeltenit is indeed Torhal's fault Ressy is right
03:00.05MysticalOSit's always torhal's fault
03:00.21TorhalDamn it, Kaelten. I thought I could trust you because I have the ability to tell people you like tequila.
03:00.27MysticalOSrewrites torhal in flash
03:00.30Ressylmao
03:00.33KaeltenI have that same ability!
03:00.37Torhalreqrites MysticalOS in Greek.
03:00.39KaeltenI like tequila!
03:01.05TorhalKaelten: Damn! This is why I can't have nice things!
03:01.28Ressysnickers
03:02.37Kaeltenoh no, I'm the reason you _can_ have nice things :P
03:03.00TorhalOk, ok, ok...you're the reason I can't have fun.
03:03.04TorhalWell...wait...
03:03.05TorhalFUCK.
03:03.09Kaelten:D
03:03.17TorhalKaelten: BTW - check PMs.
03:03.37Kaeltensec
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03:35.12Kaeltenhey Torhal I have tequila!
03:35.35znfSeriously, this deal with OnePlus One is annoying as fuck :-|
03:35.45znfI'm considering just ignoring the invite
03:35.48TorhalKaelten: Bastitch! I have Fat Tire Amber Ale and some box wine.
03:36.43KaeltenI have a bomber of dragon's milk in the fridge
03:37.19TorhalKaelten: Tim was supposed to bring me some about 3 years ago, now. I'mma have to import.
03:37.30Kaeltenyou can have this one
03:37.40KaeltenI imported them to give out
03:37.42Torhalo.O
03:37.51Kaeltendoesn't really drink beer anymore
03:38.01TorhalOh, that's right.
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03:54.20znfhttp://i.imgur.com/mTig7P6.png
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06:51.15znfpurl's log search function blows
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08:34.32Timmehznf: got rid of your invite yet? :-P
08:34.41znfTimmeh, waiting for a friend to call me
08:34.46znfI redeemed it, though :-/
08:34.49Timmehstill, friend is slow!
08:34.54znfand added the phone to cart
08:35.01znfapparently it stays there for a few days
08:35.07Timmehweeeird system
08:35.20quiescensgo to sleep
08:35.21znfs/weeeird/retarded/
08:35.57bluspacecow*sleeps on quiescens*
08:38.35quiescensgives blu a cookie
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09:14.09Repoadibags: 03Adirelle 07master * v1.6.15-2-g8921c1a Localization.lua: [+1 commit] Localization updated.
09:14.09Repoadibags: 03Adirelle 07wod * v1.6.15-10-g6cbf769 Localization.lua: [+2 commits]
09:14.09Repo6cbf769: Merge branch 'master' into wod
09:14.10Repo8921c1a: Localization updated.
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09:50.26Repoadibags: 03Adirelle 07master * v1.6.16  (5 files in 5 directories): [+2 commits]
09:50.27Repof6f19aa: Added an option to hide the anchoring corner.
09:50.27Repo744c03d: Money: added an option to display a small money frame.
09:50.36Repoadibags: 03Adirelle 07wod * v1.6.15-12-g6631f86  (5 files in 5 directories): [+2 commits]
09:50.38Repo6631f86: Added an option to hide the anchoring corner.
09:50.40Repoc0f91f5: Money: added an option to display a small money frame.
09:50.54Repoadibags: 03Adirelle 04v1.6.16 * ee977bf /: [new tag] Tagging as v1.6.16.
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10:06.49Repoadibags: 03Adirelle 07master * v1.6.16-1-g0670368 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Stacks items from different bag types when bag types are not shown on buttons.
10:06.49Repoadibags: 03Adirelle 07wod * v1.6.15-13-g135d701 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Stacks items from different bag types when bag types are not shown on buttons.
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10:15.11Adirelleis there something special in the curse client (or the site) to download packages from alternative branches (e.g. wod).
10:15.13Adirelle?
10:18.17nevcairielimpossible
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11:08.58nevcairielhm i've been pondering on how to fix Mapster for WoD, somehow I think most of it could be rewritten entirely from scratch, the map changed so much, and many functions may not be needed anymore with the "mini" map basically offering most of it already
11:09.47nevcairielbut i bet someone would miss the possibility to swap between two map sizes
11:12.28nevcairieli shall think about this
11:16.57znfMapster will go the way of Cartographer!
11:17.12quiescensnerf znf
11:17.20znf<-- goes to sleep
11:23.58nevcairielnah it still has plenty useful functions
11:24.11nevcairieljust the main map moving and stuff is now done by the game already
11:24.22nevcairielwell has been in MoP as well, but shrug
11:25.11sylvanaarACP is still useful even though they added similar functionality  - they never add it all
11:25.32nevcairielfor 99.9% of all people, ACP will get deleted though =p
11:25.44sylvanaarwho knows
11:25.52nevcairieli never used anything more than enabling addons
11:28.42sylvanaarYeah, it depends on how many you have I guess. If you have 5-6 it wont matter
11:29.44nevcairieli have like 100
11:29.59sylvanaarYeah. Well its larger anyways
11:32.07sylvanaarI used the info tootlips the colored statuses, and protected addons. though they aren't essential they are an improvement
11:32.39sylvanaarand the sorting occasionally
11:34.14sylvanaaror enabling of optional dpendencies so i didnt have to enable all the libraries by hand
11:34.30sylvanaarthere is stuff there -but you can live without it
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12:02.29AdirelleI thought AdiBags would go away too, but it stills offers some useful features
12:03.01Adirellesome of them are redundant with the new ones, but there are different enough so people would prefer one or another
12:04.32Adirellehowever, the built-in new item tracker is a lifesaver, the one from adibags was a big, hacky, ugly thing, which does work for some clients, I'm happy to cut off this thing
12:04.44Adirelledoes not work*
12:05.54AdirelleI have some doubt with Squire2 though, it depends on how the new "summon random favorite mount" works
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12:11.55EthanCentauraiMorning! o/
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12:32.43quiescenso/
12:36.42bluipodcowI r sleepy cow quiescens
12:36.50bluipodcowAnd at work :(
12:36.54quiescens):
12:39.36Timmehstop working, it's caturday :-(
12:42.44bluipodcow<PROTECTED>
12:49.54GnarfozI iz just done with being at work
12:50.06Gnarfozanother 6 hours to spend as free time some other day
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12:52.58quiescenspoor blu
12:53.19Timmehno, he's working
12:53.22Timmehso that'd be rich blu
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13:11.52sbAdirelle: adibags go away? no way :o 1-bag with categories > blizzard stuff
13:12.28Adirellesb, no, it's not, but I feel some people will prefer the blizzard implemntation
13:12.35Adirelleit has autosorting
13:13.57Adirellewell, most of what bag addons provide : quality-based borders, display a "junk item" overlay at the merchant, show new items, automaticattly sorts items in bags, and so on
13:14.54sbAdirelle: nah, i mean - it wont be obsolete by any means
13:15.04sbi dont think blizz improved that much
13:15.13sbcategories limited by bag size doesnt work
13:15.37sb(e.g. consumables -> bag1, if its full it wont work that way anymore. no issues with dynamic 1-bag-categories (like adibags)
13:15.38Adirellewell, it's far better than the previous interation ^^
13:23.31harlso, inspecting still hasn't been fixed? even without any addons, i still have to inspect some players 2-5 times to actually see all of their equipment. and even then some of it doesn't show all stats.
13:26.14harlsometimes the icon of an item would show, but not the tooltip. sometimes the tooltip would show stats like "-0 Mastery"
13:30.17bluipodcowzzzzzzzzzzzzz (sleeping on quiescens )
13:30.18harlit's as if the inspection frame is keeping itself from receiving all events, or from refreshing accordingly, whatever.
13:38.24Adirelleraah fuck it, writing tests *after* you've written the main code is so boring
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13:53.02nevcairielAMD releases 220w 5Ghz CPU on the retail market, still doesn't beat Intel's 84w 3.9GHz model
13:53.11nevcairielGood going :p
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15:46.37EthanCentauraiOh hello there, crippling anxiety attack. I haven't missed you at all.
15:47.38EthanCentauraiThis is why I can't have nice things.
15:57.58Stanzillahellow
15:58.40nevcairielyello'
16:02.53Stanzillamy cat brought me a super tiny mouse
16:06.49nevcairielWas it dead
16:06.55Stanzillayes :<
16:08.16nevcairielBetter then alive, trust me
16:08.38EthanCentauraiHe loves you and gave you a gift. :3
16:10.57Stanzillayes!
16:11.00Stanzilla(to both)
16:31.21pompysilly random site "Doctor Who series eight premieres Saturday, November 23 with the episodeDeep Breath" http://www.threeifbyspace.net/2014/08/watch-doctor-who-world-tour-live-stream-qa-from-seoul-sydney-mexico-city/#.U-ZMlrFe6Um
16:31.51nevcairielIt premieres in two weeks, silly site
16:32.32nevcairielI've been listening to BBC radio, they are bringing it up at least once a day. :p
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17:12.06EthanCentauraiBeer.
17:12.21quiescenso.o
17:14.00EthanCentauraiBarely opened the can and I've already spilled some. >_>
17:14.13quiescensgives ethancentaurai a cookie
17:14.17EthanCentaurai\o/
17:14.23quiescens\o/
17:45.01znfoh
17:45.10znfsomeone destroyed some of our portals
17:45.14znftime to get dressed and get out!
17:45.17Ressylol
17:46.21znfhey, AP opportunities!
17:46.25znfI have like 5 fields to make there :D
17:46.28znfand around 8 links
17:48.04nevcairielGoogle really found a good way to get the nerds out of the basements
17:48.47nebula169still have no idea what znf has been going on about
17:48.57znfnebula169, Ingress!
17:49.37nebula169i see
17:50.35quiescensits okay, znf makes minimal sense at the best of times
17:50.36quiescenso.o
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19:38.52sbnevcairiel: cinemaxx also does a season 8 premiere event
19:39.04sb13 eur....
19:48.55nevcairielI would go if I could walk
19:49.08nevcairielThe special last year was fun
20:04.15FiskerWhy can't you walk?
20:09.30nevcairielBroken foot et
20:09.33nevcairielEtc
20:18.56EthanCentauraiIf I weren't blind drunk I'd be crying.
20:19.01EthanCentauraiI need stronger meds.
20:21.25sbGnarfoz: http://www.zdf.de/ZDFmediathek/beitrag/live/1822544/ZDFkultur-im-Livestream#/beitrag/live/1822544/ZDFkultur-im-Livestream
20:21.36sbwacken stream (now playing: heaven shall burn)
20:21.47sb(recording obviously)
20:28.36Gnarfozsb: sound's a bit low, don't you think?
20:28.48sbyup...
20:29.24sbrecording metal isnt that easy!:D
20:32.30nevcairielListening to metal live also isn't easy
20:34.11nevcairielIn my experience it loses a lot of the music live because of terrible sound characteristics in wherever they play, or I always pick terrible places to stand/sit
20:36.40sbthere are somebands which dont do good liveshows
20:36.48sbothers do :D
20:37.23sbe.g. in flames, nightwish, blind guardian, edguy
20:38.25Gnarfozsound just got a bit louder?
20:38.39nevcairielMaybe our stadium here just sucks for that, but every time I've been there it sounded pretty terrible
20:39.16Gnarfozsb: meh, recording there should be easy as hell, line sound + mix crowd on top? :D
20:39.41nevcairielMids/heights echo all over the place and its all just strong bass with weird sounding mids/heights from.everywhere
20:39.46Gnarfoznevcairiel: the venue might have bad acoustics; also bands + venue both have sound guys... one might suck
20:40.54nevcairielWhen slayer was playing in June, it sounded like overdriving the speakers <.<
20:44.48Gnarfoznevcairiel: shame
20:47.13Repoacp: 03sylvanaar 07WoD, default * r180  (3 files in 1 directory): Advance the tip to build the right branch for distribution
20:47.13RepoReplace the blizzard Addon button's OnClick with ACP's.
20:47.13RepoDon't add an ACP addons button to the game menu
20:47.13RepoAdd the load out of date addons check box even though it doesn't work on beta
20:50.48sylvanaarhow messed up the packager didnt build my branch
20:51.25Gnarfozis that two branches, or a branch with a comma in it
20:51.41nebula169packager never builds branches
20:51.48Gnarfozright, only forks
20:51.53Gnarfozalways mix those up
20:52.19Gnarfoz(and then, all hell breaks loose)
20:52.28Repoacp: 03sylvanaar 07WoD * r181 ACP.toc: Advance the tip to build the right branch for distribution
20:53.36Repoacp: 03sylvanaar * r182 ACP.toc: Advance the tip to build the right branch for distribution
20:55.11Stanzillahg is confusing
20:56.34sylvanaarit builds branches
20:56.47sylvanaarand it recognizes TOC 60000 now too
20:57.16Gnarfozjust the tip
20:57.25sylvanaarbut if you push commits to 2 branches at once, "throttles" them I guess it thinks they are on the same branch
20:57.59Gnarfozsb: I'd have to go to Freiburg, Mannheim, Sindelfingen or Stuttgart to see that (also, I'd have to catch up 4 seasons? I'm at like... episode 2 w/ Matt Smith)
20:59.04sbyou shouldmove! :D
20:59.20nevcairielpackager never built branches
20:59.51Ressylol..  znf: Resistance was setting up a lvl 8 farm near me, could see 8 of them deploying.. I mentioned it in the hangouts group for my part of the city.. we have a few people there smashing the farm right now.. lol
21:00.02nevcairielIt would totally confuse the files available for the client, too
21:00.31sylvanaarit does nev
21:00.42znfRessy: I would have Jarvis'd that :))
21:00.45nebula169where are the files for your branch?
21:01.11sylvanaarhttp://www.wowace.com/addons/acp/files/338-r181/
21:01.11Gnarfozit used to build forks, I don't see how that'd be any less confusing for the client -- if their sheer existence could cause problems
21:01.24sylvanaarlook it is r181
21:01.31Ressyznf: https://www.ingress.com/intel?ll=43.773383,-79.50259&z=17
21:01.34sylvanaarwhich is on the WoD branch
21:01.36znfRessy: some blue smashed a few of our portals today. I went and made everything back again. Lots of fields and links in about 30min
21:01.38nevcairielUnless its hg specific, then I wouldn't know, but it doesn't build svn or git branches
21:01.49Ressymake sure you have player tracker enabled, then scroll up in the comm. lol
21:01.53sylvanaarit may just be building the tip
21:01.58sylvanaarwhatever that is
21:01.59nevcairielIt builds hg branches if you push them as tip or something
21:02.04znfI will check it when I get home
21:02.10znfI'm on my phone now
21:02.11nevcairielIts just that hg is terrible like that
21:02.25sylvanaarit has nothing to do with hg. it is just building tip
21:02.33sylvanaarits like building HEAD on git
21:02.39nevcairielOnly hg has tip
21:02.53sylvanaarits the same as HEAD
21:03.01nevcairielApparently not
21:03.15nevcairielDoes never happen with git
21:03.23sylvanaarno, the packer builds master for git
21:03.28sylvanaarbut tip for hg
21:03.32Gnarfozmaster is a branch
21:03.42Gnarfoz(while HEAD isn't)
21:03.54sylvanaartip isnt a branch either
21:03.57sylvanaarit is a pointer
21:03.59nebula169well head is a ref
21:04.10nebula169usually pointing to something in the current branch you're on
21:04.17Gnarfozthe packager doesn't build HEAD, then, obviously
21:04.19nevcairielGit head is relative to the current branch, it doesn't change when I push another branch
21:04.54sbGnarfoz: still listening?
21:04.57nevcairielIt seems weird that the tip would change just because you push another branch
21:05.06Gnarfozyeah, even though it's not what I typically listen to
21:05.08sbGnarfoz:  blind guardian valhalla cover
21:05.12sb\o/
21:05.30GnarfozI would probably have recognized it at the chorus
21:05.51nevcairielAnd I'm extremely glad that the packager doesn't build my Dev branches
21:06.16sylvanaarI didnt think it would build mine either until it did
21:07.36sbGnarfoz: thats awesome - and it doesnt sound that bad when the crowd isnt that quiet
21:07.40nevcairielI mean, I would like a feature in curse to be able to package a wod version and only install it in CC for wod beta, but in absence of that, don't mix wod versions in the file listings
21:07.48sylvanaarme too
21:08.35Gnarfozsb: meh~ I can live without whatever this particular style is called :D
21:09.07Gnarfoz(well, since this song is not by them, it carries over some of the original's awesomeness, I meant their own stuff)
21:09.35Gnarfozaha, playback ^^
21:10.22Gnarfozdoes it end at... 23:10?
21:10.24sylvanaarI made a suggestion on how to do that years ago, noone liked it
21:10.29Gnarfozwhat kind of weird time is that to end a show
21:10.56sylvanaarbut what else is new lol
21:11.09Gnarfozhey, people dig your lua intellij thing!1
21:11.18Gnarfoz(and my keys still bounce)
21:11.48sylvanaarim glad people like it, i wish I had more time for it - or some people to work on it with
21:11.52Gnarfozaha, more Wacken!
21:12.10sylvanaarit is a fun project if you are a tools nerd
21:13.12sbGnarfoz: looking forward to youtube version :D
21:13.37Gnarfozof what, specifically?
21:13.50sbwacken - but its already online :D
21:14.35Gnarfozlinky linky
21:14.44Gnarfozafter this: Apocalyptica
21:14.54Gnarfozafter that... Heaven Shall Burn repeat?!
21:15.09sbHSB: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQMVvGfjJkg
21:15.11sbAvantasia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-7fWJenLM8
21:15.19Gnarfozfollowed by something not-wacken, but including Gamma Ray, but I'm probably not going to make it that far
21:15.23sbCoB: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOlW8DcRyfA
21:15.36sbapocalyptica: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_up0o5a6tfM
21:15.50Gnarfozlol that quality is better than the zdf mediathek stream
21:15.53GnarfozSHAME ON THEM
21:15.57Gnarfozwhat are we paying them for?
21:16.26sbamon amarth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH3XsGL4ucs
21:19.16Gnarfozlol nice reaction time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0k8_7rgMD2c @00:05
21:24.08Gnarfozsb: hmm. one of the comments there has this link http://artestras.vo.llnwd.net/v2/am/ALW/055000/055200/055238-021-A_SQ_0_VO_01406095_MP4-2200_AMM-ALW.mp4
21:24.25Gnarfozwtb more links like that, one re-compression step less
21:26.27sbGnarfoz: http://artestras.vo.llnwd.net/v2/am/ALW/055000/055200/055238-004-A_HQ_0_VO_01408597_MP4-800_AMM-ALW.mp4
21:26.39Gnarfozwtf
21:26.40Gnarfozthat's SD
21:26.44Gnarfoz:(
21:27.15sbhttp://artestras.vo.llnwd.net/v2/am/ALW/055000/055200/055238-004-A_SQ_0_VO_01408600_MP4-2200_AMM-ALW.mp4?ms=1.32
21:27.31Gnarfozare you a wizard?
21:27.39sbhttp://www.arte.tv/hpv2/ergebnisse?search=wacken#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=wacken&gsc.page=1 => select stream
21:27.43sbswitch to 720p
21:27.49sband watch "network" tab of developer console
21:27.58Gnarfozyeah
21:28.03Gnarfozcool
21:28.13GnarfozI was about to go look for that site
21:31.59sbZDF is much more complicated
21:32.49sbthere is http://fgeostreaming.zdf.de/zdf/veryhigh/14/08/140808_wacken_heavenshallburn_fes.smil
21:33.16sbhost + rtmp protocol + path
21:35.48Gnarfozyeah fuck that rtmp stuff ^^
21:36.04Gnarfoz(there's always URLSnooper, but... does ZDF have anything Arte doesn't have?)
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21:37.46Repoacp: 03sylvanaar 07WoD * r183  (4 files in 3 directories): Update the list of bliz addons.
21:37.46RepoFix the status of bliz addons not being cleared when scrolling
21:37.54Kaeltennevcairiel: it's on my list now that I'm back in the drivers seat.  But it won't be until wow moves to the new platform
21:38.33Repoacp: 03sylvanaar * r184 ACP.toc: Advance the tip to build the right branch for distribution
21:41.49GnarfozKaelten: did you get reassigned?
21:42.01KaeltenCurseForge is back under me now
21:43.21Gnarfozsb: http://haste.sbuehl.com/ovagidupot.tex :C *after* it downloaded ALL of it. wtf? :D
21:44.21hasteglares at Gnarfoz.
21:44.37Gnarfoz:>
21:44.50Gnarfozat least I don't highlight Torhal in my Quit message, like Ackis does!
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21:48.28znfHuh. Amazon.de refunded me just the amount I used on my card.
21:48.35znfDoes that mean my gift card is good again?!
21:48.55Gnarfozthey typically add that amount to your account's gift balance
21:49.12Gnarfoz(so you can't use it anywhere but Amazon)
21:51.11znfmkay
21:51.29znfOrdered the OnePlus One for my friend
21:55.46nevcairielSounds good Kaelten, maybe for 7.0 then ;)
21:55.59Kaeltenyeah should be ready by then heh
21:56.05Kaeltentoo much to do to be ready by 6.0
21:57.07nevcairielThat's only a few month, and its mostly useful now, and stops being useful once 6.0 hits, so yeah
21:57.36Kaeltenyeah, it's a feature we're building into the new platform for games that have concurrent release streams more often.
21:57.47Kaeltenso it'll be available to WoW when we port wow to the new platform
22:00.26MysticalOSthat will be nice. I'm just setting my beta releases to 5.4 because otherwise no one downloads em. download stats are reduced by like 99% if 6.0.1 is version for beta mods
22:00.32MysticalOScause people still want to use curse client to manage
22:01.06Kaeltenheh
22:01.17Kaeltenthe new client will be aware of this kinda stuff too
22:01.24Ressycool
22:01.33Ressywill it sense a beta client better?
22:01.57Stanzillahe already said yes to that :p
22:02.02Ressyokies
22:02.33Stanzillafamily party tomorrow, who wants to go for me?
22:02.47znfwhen is the new curse client coming out?
22:03.01Kaeltenit's already out, just the only feature live atm is CurseVoice
22:03.12znfthat's what I mean
22:03.18znfwhen's an actual full-featured client coming out?
22:03.21znfI don't LoL
22:03.23znfor Dota
22:03.26znfI don't care about voice :D
22:03.46KaeltenWoW will probably be sometime late late this year or early next year
22:04.01Stanzillanext up is minecraft
22:04.08Kaeltenyup
22:04.58znfdamn minecraft!
22:05.01znfit interferes with my plans
22:05.12Stanzillawhat plans
22:05.21znfworld domination!
22:06.33Stanzillamore people playing minecraft than wow anyway
22:06.59MysticalOSKaelten, mac begta!
22:07.02MysticalOSbeta*
22:07.05Kaeltenin the works
22:07.09Kaeltenyou'll see it this year
22:07.14MysticalOSthis year?
22:07.20MysticalOSi was hoping this month :)
22:07.30KaeltenI'd love to, but my gut tells me that may be pushing it
22:07.31Stanzilladoesn't help you anyway
22:07.31znfI really can't understand why Minecraft is so played
22:07.32MysticalOSmy 4.0 "beta" is dated
22:07.35znfI found it bored as fuck
22:07.36Stanzillabecause it will be cursevoice only, too
22:07.57MysticalOSi don't even know what cursevoice is. since it's win only i didn't bother looking
22:08.01Kaeltensept-oct is probably more likely
22:08.05MysticalOSsomething that pissed off LoL, that's all i konw
22:08.10Kaeltenit's VOIP for gamers
22:09.02znfit's VoIP for LoL players
22:09.05znf!!
22:09.24Kaeltennope
22:09.30Kaeltensupports a lot more games than LoL now
22:09.40znfstill player limited?
22:09.57Kaeltenna, you don't have to be in a game to play
22:10.04Kaeltenit's just limited to 10 slots per channel atm
22:10.07znfno, I mean, does it
22:10.08znfyeah, that
22:10.08znf:P
22:10.20Kesava(.. curseforges packager seems to believe "11" is a beta release)
22:10.21Kaeltenyeah, more than that and the current UI get's clunky and unusable
22:10.21znfhow does curse monetize that?
22:10.30Kaeltenznf: we don't yet
22:10.40znfhow will you, soon*
22:10.40znf:P
22:10.50znfbigger channels for money?
22:10.54znfor ads?
22:11.08Kaeltenno ads, period
22:11.09MysticalOSFlash ads video ads with loud annoying audio you can only turn off with premium ;)
22:11.25Kaeltenthe new client won't have ads either, even for add-on management
22:11.28znfno, flash with exploits!
22:11.32znfreally?
22:11.38znfO.O
22:11.44znfso how will it monetize? :o
22:11.49MysticalOSso what will make it diff from premium? just similtanious download?
22:12.04Kaeltenthe bandwidth limitations is going away too
22:12.13Kaeltennot sure about the concurrent download limit yet
22:12.17Ressywow
22:12.20Kaeltenthere will still be premium features like add-on sync etc
22:12.22znfso... why would you get premium?
22:12.23znfah
22:12.25sylvanaarwhen did library standalones stop being load on demand
22:12.30sylvanaari forgot
22:12.41Kaeltenand we're going look at adding more value to premium
22:12.45znfwhile we have you here, could we get a multiple profiles, like, to the sync?
22:12.50znfor, rather, some sort of timeline?
22:12.57znfbeing able to roll back to 2-3 versions?
22:13.07MysticalOSPremium gets you one on one live chat support from torhal at any hour.
22:13.09MysticalOScallback support
22:13.26KaeltenMysticalOS: hem, that I'd totally pay for
22:13.34MysticalOS^
22:13.42Kaeltenznf: that's something we can definitely look at as part of the transition to the new client
22:13.45Ressybetter be buying more paper for all the faxes coming through
22:14.06StanzillaI want a date with Torhal
22:14.09Stanzillacan I buy that, too?
22:14.37MysticalOSthat's part of new platinum package. you get benefits of premium plus one hour of torhal's companionship a month
22:14.53Kaelten<_<
22:15.01znfKaelten, reason I'm asking is that because last time when I screwed my UI, I wanted to restore the curse profile
22:15.13znfKaelten, but when I started up the client... it backed up my screwed profile
22:15.22Kaeltensomehow I feel loike we're talking about some sort of con style charity slave auction with Torhal being voluntold to stand up there.
22:15.31Kaeltenznf: yeah makes complete sense
22:15.35Ressyno no..
22:15.47RessyYou gotta leave him some time to sleep, spend with the gf, work, and fix ARL
22:15.49MysticalOSadd some fancy premium only wtf backup and wtf copy stuff. like "copy live macros to beta" type deals. :)
22:16.00Ressyooooh
22:16.01RessyI like that
22:16.08znfOh.
22:16.16znfI just cleaned up the thermal paste on a cooler/heatsink
22:16.32znfand I have no idea where my extra paste is
22:16.34StanzillaI kinda feel sorry for Torhal, he's become the go-to-complain/talk to guy for everything curse in here
22:16.43Stanzillabecause he's the only one talking frequently
22:17.11znfhey, I like Torhal
22:17.17znfI would buy him a beer/whisky/vodka
22:17.24Ressyhe likes tequila
22:17.31znfhmmm, found my thermal paste
22:17.38znfshould I use white ceramic or silver grease?
22:18.12KaeltenStanzilla: I'm here more often now. :)
22:18.13MysticalOSI have 3 different thermal pastes laying around here.  I still need to try something different on my water block to see if I can get it to work better
22:18.16Kaeltenno one talks to me any more though :(
22:18.20MysticalOSmaybe try the liquid metal I have
22:18.33Stanzilla:(
22:19.08sylvanaarwe are just used to you being so elusive Kaelten
22:19.11nevcairielGone too long kaelten
22:19.37Kaeltenyeah I've been busy as hell :(
22:20.20Ressyawwww
22:20.23Kaeltenbut I've got a team to handle the day to day IT stuff now
22:20.24RessyI'll bother you more Kaelten
22:20.28Gnarfozsb: http://concert.arte.tv/de/wacken-amon-amarth :|
22:20.29Kaeltenkk
22:21.07sylvanaarno really, guys, when did the standalone libraries stop being load on demand. Did I really forget something like that happening?
22:21.30Adirellenevcairiel, sylvanaar: git HEAD is a ref to branch. It points at master by default and cannot be changed remotely. So in remote repos it usually points at master.
22:21.41Adirelle(well, unless some evil sysadmin logs on the server and manually does something like "git checkout another branch" in the repos)
22:22.32Adirellehg might have a different behavior, allowing to change the tip remotely (or sth like that)
22:23.48Stanzillasylvanaar: check the commit history for babble or so
22:23.57Stanzillawas in cata iirc
22:25.09sylvanaari was wondering why ACP stopped being able to enable all the standalone libraries for you
22:25.22sylvanaarI forgot what the point of that was
22:25.47sylvanaarjust in vogue at the time?
22:26.46sylvanaarOh right
22:27.16sylvanaarWait no. Were optdepts broken at some point or something
22:27.32Stanzillathe whole load on demand system was broken I think
22:27.48Stanzillaso all libs had to be set to be not load on demand
22:27.49Stanzillaor so
22:28.05sylvanaarYeah> it isn't broken any more - I guess its just a legaxy
22:28.14sylvanaars/axy/acy/
22:28.43Stanzillaproabably
22:29.23sylvanaarwell thats lame, i guess i'll remove the loadable on demand check
22:30.04StanzillaMysticalOS Kaelten best unzip/unarchive tool on OS X?
22:30.41Kesavatar
22:30.55Stanzillaok Kesava you are out
22:30.56Stanzilla:D
22:31.03Kesavapsh
22:31.45Repoacp: 03sylvanaar 07WoD * r185 ACP.lua: Remove the checking for LoadOnDemand when automatically enabling an
22:31.51Repoaddon's standalone libraries.
22:32.28Repoacp: 03sylvanaar * r186 ACP.toc: Advance the tip to build the right branch for distribution
22:32.46KaeltenStanzilla: I use the built in most of the time, for the formats it doesn't support I think I use unarchiver
22:33.24Stanzillaok, thanks
22:34.08StanzillaKesava: so now that I saw you talking, I remembered that I had a feature request for your nameplates
22:34.13Stanzilla:D
22:34.24Kesavahm?
22:35.24Stanzillahttp://aleaaddons.ru/addons/mindharvest/
22:35.28Stanzillathis as a module for it
22:35.47Repoacp: 03sylvanaar * r187 ACP.lua: Remove the checking for LoadOnDemand when automatically enabling an
22:35.47Repoaddon's standalone libraries.
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22:38.40Kesavathat seems like a terrible glyph
22:38.45sylvanaarAdirelle: i think git HEAD is whatever sha is checked out
22:38.46Kesavaas in stupid to use
22:38.56Kesava.. as in, annoying to use
22:39.18Gnarfozwhich is what addons exist for, to make your life easier ;)
22:39.29Stanzillait is both actually
22:39.43znfow come on
22:39.45Adirellesylvanaar, git checkout do change the HEAD in local repos, but by default it points at whatever the remote repos HEAD was pointing at
22:39.46Stanzillabecause that glyph has a hidden feature that is not on the tooltip atm
22:39.52znfI was just changing into something more comfortable
22:39.56znfnow someone attacked my portals
22:39.58Adirellebut when creating a new repo, it points at master
22:40.24Gnarfoznone of these contradict each other
22:41.27Adirelleeach repo has is own HEAD, which cannot be pushed/pulled (git clone being the sole exception)
22:42.27nevcairielHEAD points at your current checkout branch, its as simple as that
22:42.46Adirellesaid otherwise, when you git-clone, you copy the HEAD of the remote repo, after thath, then you change it everytime you git-checkout, you can push/pull branches but you cannot push/pull HEAD
22:42.50nevcairielAnd yeah of course pushing doesn't change it
22:43.06nevcairielNo idea what's going on with hg tip
22:43.13Adirelleyep, neither in local nor remote repo
22:43.28Adirellehg tip seems to have a different behavior
22:43.38sylvanaarwell basically, they needed to to hg update default on the remote repo
22:43.57nevcairieltip apparently points to the last commit you pushed, which makes it really kinda useless for this use case
22:44.06sylvanaaryeah, it does that
22:44.51sylvanaari guess i was off
22:45.07sylvanaarbecause you cant move it back like you can HEAD
22:46.13Gnarfozsb: did you grab the Amon Amarth Arte video by any chance
22:46.32Gnarfozapparently already de-published >_>
22:48.48sylvanaarbut mercurial doesn't enforce branch naming, so perhaps it is useful for referring to unamed heads
22:51.40Adirellethat could explain it
22:53.09Adirellebranches are required to commit in git, they are just references by the way and HEAD usually references a branch (not its commit but the branch by its name)
22:53.55Adirelle(you can checkout a given commit and HEAD would then references that commit directly, but it said to be a "detached HEAD" and you cannot commit until you checkout a branch)
22:54.16Adirelleanyway, time to watch some anime, cya
22:54.31KesavaStanzilla: anyway yes if that glyph actually makes it into the game i suppose i'll have to
22:54.41Kesavabut i'm hopeful it won't. as my main is a priest
22:54.43Kesavaand that is terrible
22:56.12Stanzillamy main is a priest too
22:56.13Stanzillaand it will
22:56.19Stanzillabut like I said, the glyph kinda sucks
22:56.23Stanzillait increases cooldown on MB
22:56.28Stanzillawhich is not on the tooltip
22:56.35Kesavai see
22:56.36Stanzillaso it's only good for questing or so
22:57.02Stanzillaso far I only used it in one beta raid I think
23:00.33sylvanaarRight. think the packager is just misusing tip, as a way around having to deal with multiple heads on the default branch and having to decide which to build.
23:01.24StanzillaKesava: knp works fine in beta if you haven tested yet btw
23:01.31Stanzillaconverted more guildies to it, too
23:01.35Kesavai have indeed
23:01.40Kesava:D
23:04.26Stanzillaok
23:09.33Stanzillahttp://www.theverge.com/2014/8/9/5985881/daft-punk-gives-elusive-human-after-all-remix-album-worldwide-release
23:09.41Stanzillaback when they were still good
23:12.03Kesavadaft punk are good
23:12.04Kesava<PROTECTED>
23:12.17Stanzillanew album is so zzzZzZzZz
23:15.23Repoacp: 03sylvanaar * r188 .hgtags: Added tag 3.4.9 for changeset c77b7f08d727
23:30.58znfI just made another gmail account
23:31.03znftoo play ingress on a second device
23:31.04znf:-S
23:34.38znfhttp://i.imgur.com/M8iHTus.png
23:34.42znfdone planning!
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23:45.42Ressynice
23:55.42Repoprat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r932  (2 files in 1 directory): Merge
23:55.42RepoMerge in code to better separate concerns between the editbox and history modules
23:55.42RepoBetter separation of command history saved data from the editbox module
23:59.37StanzillaWe thought you’d like to know that you have successfully cancelled your Spotify subscription
23:59.38Stanzillabye bye

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