| 00:01.24 | Repo | tradeskill-info: 03ethancentaurai * r655 TradeskillInfo.lua: |
| 00:01.24 | Repo | Removed Skillet hooks. They weren't in use and Skillet now has working native support anyway. |
| 00:06.09 | Repo | skillet: 03ethancentaurai * r359 UI/MainFrame.lua: Skillet: |
| 00:06.09 | Repo | - Fixed an error when grouping skills by character. |
| 00:07.06 | EthanCentaurai | I'd better be careful else I a) piss people off and/or b) end up taking over the project |
| 00:07.27 | EthanCentaurai | ~seen yossa |
| 00:07.32 | purl | EthanCentaurai: i haven't seen 'yossa' |
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| 00:09.35 | MysticalOS | blizzard and this targeting player BEFORe cast nonsense is getting old |
| 00:09.44 | MysticalOS | sigh at looping target scanning |
| 00:22.16 | EthanCentaurai | MysticalOS: ikr? more often than not I'm firing frostbolts at my water elemental rather than at the boss :B |
| 00:28.43 | Repo | smartres2: 03myrroddin * r310 WoD/: Warlords of Draenor working copy |
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| 00:53.57 | Repo | skillet: 03ethancentaurai * r360 (2 files in 1 directory): Skillet: |
| 00:53.57 | Repo | - Bump release version to 2.56 |
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| 04:44.44 | Repo | arl: 03Torhal 07WoD * 3.0.4-49-g9792a96 (5 files in 2 directories): [+10 commits] (6 truncated) |
| 04:44.44 | Repo | 9792a96: Reputation system revamp: Bitflags, default SavedVariable filters, reputation menus, and the reputation toggles are now all generated from the definitions in Constants.lua. |
| 04:44.44 | Repo | 142c39c: Changed the reputation dump to work the same as the bossed dump, then removed the input requirement for both. No input prints everything, input prints whatever matches. |
| 04:44.44 | Repo | 1ed0efc: Fixed a five-year-old bug that didn't blow up simply due to unique names. |
| 04:44.44 | Repo | 22b1c41: Cleaned up mapping between the reputation bit-flags and DB filters - now programmatically-generated from the bit-flag words themselves. |
| 04:46.27 | Stanzilla | this Torhal dude |
| 04:46.28 | Stanzilla | what a guy |
| 04:46.46 | Torhal | WAT |
| 04:46.53 | Stanzilla | WAT |
| 04:46.54 | Stanzilla | A |
| 04:46.55 | Stanzilla | GUY |
| 04:47.43 | Torhal | I just started ripping shit out and replacing it with newness. |
| 04:48.29 | Torhal | Used to have to go all over the damn place to add new reputations since shit was named differently between the subsystems. Now it's in a central location that generates ALL THE THINGS. |
| 04:49.15 | Stanzilla | sounds good |
| 04:49.24 | Torhal | Less frustrating, for sure. |
| 04:49.34 | Torhal | And less eyebleed. |
| 04:54.57 | Stanzilla | I just found sparkly wine |
| 04:55.07 | Stanzilla | cheers |
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| 05:44.29 | quiescens | o.o |
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| 06:40.17 | sb | morning |
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| 06:46.42 | sb | Stanzilla: ping |
| 06:47.13 | Torhal | Stanzilla: pong |
| 06:47.21 | Torhal | Oh, wait. That isn't how these things work. |
| 06:47.24 | Torhal | goes to bed. |
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| 06:50.53 | sb | Torhal: syn |
| 06:51.08 | sb | mitm, stop it! :( |
| 06:51.49 | quiescens | gasp |
| 06:51.50 | quiescens | hax |
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| 08:18.25 | Industrial | ack |
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| 08:41.15 | Workfoz | Stanzilla: do you also have to smile when he passive-aggressively rants to nobody in particular? :D it's almost like Amarande, but on Twitter! |
| 08:42.00 | nebula169 | Stanzilla: transcriptor logs plzthx |
| 08:44.40 | quiescens | nerf *foz |
| 08:44.46 | nevcairiel | Workfoz: who |
| 08:45.09 | Workfoz | it's only fun when you recognize who I mean without saying! :( |
| 08:45.18 | quiescens | ): |
| 08:45.28 | nevcairiel | i dont read twitter unless someone links a tweet |
| 08:45.31 | nevcairiel | i r too lazy |
| 08:46.03 | Timmeh | 140 characters is too much for nevcairiel! |
| 08:46.06 | quiescens | i agree with nev |
| 08:46.11 | quiescens | \o/ |
| 08:46.42 | Timmeh | I only read Twitter when I need to announce or ask something |
| 08:46.44 | Industrial | is reading Asimov |
| 08:46.49 | Industrial | all the Foundation books |
| 08:46.51 | Industrial | lovinit |
| 08:46.55 | Timmeh | and when I announce something, I generally try to retweet, so I don't have to type 140 characters! |
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| 09:05.49 | Workfoz | nevcairiel: http://goo.gl/lGYXF8 |
| 09:06.09 | sb | Workfoz: he is here :p |
| 09:06.34 | nevcairiel | oh yeah i know he likes to complain a lot |
| 09:06.42 | nevcairiel | occasionally also rambles here |
| 09:08.02 | Timmeh | complambles? |
| 09:11.28 | sb | why is Stanzilla always sleeping |
| 09:12.29 | nevcairiel | he has the sleeping sickness |
| 09:13.33 | quiescens | sleep is good o.o |
| 09:13.50 | nevcairiel | not too much of it |
| 09:13.55 | quiescens | ): |
| 09:14.19 | nevcairiel | i would love to just sleep the next 6 weeks until my foot is fixed, but that just doesn't work like that :D |
| 09:16.00 | quiescens | 6 weeks is so long |
| 09:16.46 | nebula169 | nevcairiel: induce a coma |
| 09:16.51 | sb | Workfoz: woah, i want to go there |
| 09:17.59 | sb | nevcairiel: or play mmos all the time, which is basically the same as an induced coma |
| 09:18.35 | quiescens | 6 weeks until fully healed, or 6 weeks until "you can move around normally but stuff like footbal would be a bad idea" |
| 09:18.51 | nevcairiel | i'll be fine if i can walk around again |
| 09:19.00 | nevcairiel | don't need to go play football right away |
| 09:20.48 | Workfoz | sb: I know, that's why I shortened it :P |
| 09:21.07 | quiescens | *foz is ebil |
| 09:21.10 | Workfoz | sb: go where? |
| 09:21.27 | sb | Workfoz: scifi museum |
| 09:21.34 | nevcairiel | sb: well when i'm awake i might as well work and earn moneyz to spend later |
| 09:22.18 | quiescens | yay moneyz \o/ |
| 09:22.20 | sb | nevcairiel: are you employee for those media guys or self employed? |
| 09:22.51 | nevcairiel | self employed, so i technically only get money when i work |
| 09:22.55 | sb | meh, ok |
| 09:23.06 | sb | so krankgeschrieben doesnt mean anything to you |
| 09:23.26 | nevcairiel | although they did pay me for july in full, despite me missing half of it, mostly because they are nice, but that wouldn't extend for another 6 weeks :p |
| 09:24.39 | sb | hum... |
| 09:24.43 | sb | just wondering |
| 09:37.55 | Timmeh | nevcairiel: what did you do with your foot? |
| 09:38.04 | nevcairiel | i broke it |
| 09:38.09 | Timmeh | why? |
| 09:38.24 | nevcairiel | felt like not walking for 2 month |
| 09:38.27 | Timmeh | I see |
| 09:38.31 | nevcairiel | trying new things, etc |
| 09:38.39 | Timmeh | well, always good to try new things |
| 09:38.44 | Timmeh | have to have done things at least once! |
| 09:39.07 | Timmeh | hope you'll be fixed soon anyway |
| 09:39.43 | nevcairiel | well there isnt really any speeding it up, so it'll still be like 5 weeks now until i can put weight on it again, and probably quite a bit longer until its fully functional |
| 09:39.56 | Timmeh | right |
| 09:40.09 | sb | dont move and order pizza all the time \o/ |
| 09:40.27 | nevcairiel | problem: can't carry the pizza from the door to the table |
| 09:40.35 | Timmeh | so ask the delivery guy to do so |
| 09:40.37 | Timmeh | surely they will |
| 09:40.44 | nevcairiel | thats what i did last time |
| 09:40.51 | Timmeh | last night*? :-P |
| 09:40.54 | quiescens | o.o |
| 09:40.58 | nevcairiel | nah it was on the weekend |
| 09:41.35 | nevcairiel | staying with my parents for a bit now, so most days i get food =p |
| 09:41.43 | Timmeh | hah |
| 09:41.59 | Timmeh | how did you break it? |
| 09:42.11 | quiescens | carefully |
| 09:42.20 | Timmeh | tauren stepped on your foot? |
| 09:42.23 | sb | http://www.stuttgartkonzert.de/veranstaltungen/Video_Games_Live_-_Konzert-652.html wonder if i should go there |
| 09:42.42 | nevcairiel | jumped over a small creek, landed badly |
| 09:42.51 | Timmeh | I see |
| 09:42.59 | Workfoz | nevcairiel: did you jump, never asking why? |
| 09:43.02 | Timmeh | I bet a murloc pushed you off balance |
| 09:43.13 | quiescens | fall damage is real! |
| 09:43.28 | Industrial | my face can attest |
| 09:43.37 | Industrial | did some parkour when that became hot |
| 09:43.43 | sb | thats why there you get an achievement quiescens |
| 09:44.33 | Industrial | 3 days before my snowboard holiday I had a two face :D whole right side was grazed |
| 09:44.48 | quiescens | gives industrial a cookie |
| 09:45.02 | Industrial | I should have kept the pictures :( |
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| 11:08.33 | EthanCentaurai | https://www.elance.com/j/word-of-warcraft-addon-developer/60152002/ |
| 11:08.36 | EthanCentaurai | seems legit |
| 11:12.59 | Industrial | hm, didnt I have one of those lying around |
| 11:13.11 | Industrial | (nest-best-spell addons) |
| 11:13.16 | Industrial | next* |
| 11:13.21 | nevcairiel | http://9gag.com/gag/aEGdpOG |
| 11:13.26 | Industrial | Autohotkey wins, though |
| 11:14.05 | Industrial | nevcairiel: that is awesome. More people like this. |
| 11:14.08 | Industrial | we need them |
| 11:15.51 | quiescens | ? |
| 11:15.54 | quiescens | what did you do |
| 11:19.35 | Industrial | quiescens: If you play a cooldown based rotation class where one spell is always better to use then another given both are off cooldown; |
| 11:19.58 | Industrial | just create a script that sends keystrokes 12345 every 100 or so msec |
| 11:20.00 | Workfoz | I think you might be talking about different things. |
| 11:20.01 | Workfoz | :D |
| 11:20.04 | Industrial | yes :D |
| 11:20.20 | Workfoz | EthanCentaurai: actually, there's nothing illegitimate about that |
| 11:20.51 | Workfoz | read closely (and know your addons), and you'll realize he's talking about stuff like clcret, clcinfo, claw, s.h.i.t., and others |
| 11:21.02 | nevcairiel | he mentioned claw specifically |
| 11:21.08 | Workfoz | he did. |
| 11:21.13 | Workfoz | your point? :p |
| 11:21.22 | Workfoz | I just listed more so EthanCentaurai gets it ^^ |
| 11:21.31 | nevcairiel | from your listing various other things, that wasnt obvious! |
| 11:21.52 | Workfoz | I thought you broke your *foot* |
| 11:21.54 | nevcairiel | also, i think he is more concernd about that offer on the website than the actual task at hand |
| 11:21.57 | Industrial | doesn't EventHorizon still actually work atm? isn't it better to have a timeline then just a button that changes? :) |
| 11:21.58 | nebula169 | so basically he's an idiot and can't work a four button rotation |
| 11:22.06 | Workfoz | don't judge |
| 11:22.13 | nebula169 | judges |
| 11:22.16 | Workfoz | it's not a rotation |
| 11:22.19 | nebula169 | priority |
| 11:22.21 | nebula169 | whatever |
| 11:22.24 | nevcairiel | wasnt claw primarily for cat druids at first |
| 11:22.24 | nebula169 | same difference |
| 11:22.30 | nevcairiel | their rotation was wicked crazy at some point |
| 11:22.36 | Workfoz | claw is just a fork/clone of one of the other addons that does this for another class |
| 11:22.57 | Industrial | I also use a magnet and I put it on my keyboard key |
| 11:23.10 | Industrial | effectively turning it into a DPS ON/OFF button |
| 11:23.14 | Workfoz | nebula169: why *not* have an addon tell you that now is the time to use X because you have proc X up, spell Y on cooldown and spell Z on < 2 s cooldown and you have 500 resource1? |
| 11:23.27 | Workfoz | especially when you're not a ranged class |
| 11:23.34 | Industrial | or little weight :) |
| 11:23.43 | quiescens | i think i was playing during the random cat form days |
| 11:23.54 | Workfoz | blame Blizzard for making that classes play like that |
| 11:23.59 | Workfoz | shrugs |
| 11:25.41 | Workfoz | I use clcinfo because some times when doing encounter-specific stuff, I might lose track of where I am in my "rotation" (as it were, can't really call Ret's combat mechanis a rotation); also, sticking to it instead of "oh I know better" most often results in higher DPS, too |
| 11:27.38 | Workfoz | Industrial: isn't eventhorizon just a straight cooldown display? |
| 11:28.16 | Workfoz | foods |
| 11:28.31 | Workfoz | what should I get? probably the same junk as every day |
| 11:28.39 | EthanCentaurai | Coffee. |
| 11:29.09 | Workfoz | no need |
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| 11:31.43 | quiescens | gives workfoz a cookie |
| 11:36.24 | Industrial | Workfoz: I didnt know these addons took anything other then spell CD's into account. |
| 11:36.43 | Industrial | Hmmmmmmm might have to give mine a swing :) |
| 12:06.31 | Workfoz | of course, otherwise they'd just be cooldown mods |
| 12:07.04 | Workfoz | they include the entire priority queue, most of them are even user-configurable |
| 12:09.45 | Workfoz | so you can feed clcinfo (for example) a configuration string that represents the priority list "Inq > ES (> 5HP T16 Free DS) > 5HP TV > HoW (> T16 Free DS) > CS > Judge > Exo > 3-4HP TV (> SS)" and it will display accordingly |
| 12:10.05 | Workfoz | (it ususally has 2 icons, next, and 1-after-next spell) |
| 12:12.58 | quiescens | hax |
| 12:13.01 | quiescens | nerf *foz |
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| 12:40.57 | Workfoz | someone buy me two of these with 6 TiB http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/servers-unified-computing/ucs-c460-m4-rack-server/datasheet-c78-730907.html :D |
| 12:44.18 | Workfoz | nevcairiel: tell me again, which do you use? RAID-F or tRAID? |
| 12:45.03 | nevcairiel | RAID-F |
| 12:47.49 | sb | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYBZMRWcEBk |
| 12:49.14 | Workfoz | nevcairiel: how often do you update the parity ("sync", I guess)? And do you have some separate storage for data that changes more often? |
| 12:49.18 | quiescens | moo? |
| 12:49.19 | Workfoz | (like they describe in their FAQ) |
| 12:49.31 | nevcairiel | parity update runs once a night |
| 12:49.49 | nevcairiel | you can run it on any cron schedule you like |
| 12:51.11 | nevcairiel | and i dont have any other protected special storage, i have an extra hdd as temporary scrub space, like where sabnzbd downloads stuff to before unpacking it onto the raid, and other temporary things |
| 12:52.48 | Workfoz | you're probably rich enough to have a big ssd where all programs & games fit |
| 12:53.07 | Workfoz | (well, so am I now, I guess, with the prices being what they are, but :D) |
| 12:53.09 | nevcairiel | its not in my gaming pc |
| 12:53.20 | Workfoz | oh, right. different level of rich |
| 12:53.20 | nevcairiel | but sure, the box runs a 512gb ssd |
| 12:53.20 | Workfoz | :P |
| 12:53.52 | Workfoz | hm yeah. |
| 12:54.15 | quiescens | o.o |
| 12:54.18 | nevcairiel | it still ran on a normal hdd earlier this year, i rebuilt it in spring |
| 12:54.37 | Workfoz | I'm considering a setup like: 2 disk raid 1 for games & programs that don't fit on my ssd, the other 6 RAID-F with photos, music & video |
| 12:54.50 | Workfoz | documents probably still on the raid 1 |
| 12:58.35 | quiescens | so many drives o.o |
| 12:59.09 | Workfoz | just 8~ |
| 12:59.12 | Workfoz | nev probably has more |
| 12:59.27 | quiescens | nev is op |
| 12:59.37 | Workfoz | literally |
| 13:01.11 | nevcairiel | just about twice as many |
| 13:03.53 | Neffi | Why not RAIDZ? End to end checksums seem nice |
| 13:04.25 | nevcairiel | i have checksums, and raidz is severly limited for my usecase |
| 13:04.50 | Neffi | Differing disk sizes, or lots of writes? |
| 13:05.00 | nevcairiel | the first |
| 13:06.35 | Workfoz | just saying "raidz raidz raidz" does not magically make everything perfect |
| 13:07.00 | nevcairiel | plus it barely works on linux these days |
| 13:07.07 | Neffi | I would hope not. If it was that good, I would wonder wtf anyone else is doing |
| 13:07.09 | Workfoz | setting that up properly requires quite a bit of knowledge |
| 13:07.11 | nevcairiel | but my server runs windows :d |
| 13:07.36 | Neffi | Workfoz: Doesnt seem that hard, really |
| 13:07.46 | Workfoz | oh? ok. which raidz-level, then? |
| 13:07.51 | Neffi | The main pitfall seems to be that ZFS is a fucking RAM hog, and the write performance is poor |
| 13:07.52 | Workfoz | z? z1? z2? z3? |
| 13:07.59 | Workfoz | do you use an L2ARC? |
| 13:08.04 | Workfoz | dedup on off? |
| 13:08.10 | Workfoz | linux? solaris? something else |
| 13:08.43 | Workfoz | some people recommend not to exceed pools (or is it tanks?) of X drives - how many is actually relevant, or is that just word of mouth? |
| 13:08.44 | Workfoz | etc |
| 13:08.45 | Neffi | Depends on your needs. Dedup is useless if you're just storing movies and have plenty of space to spare. Zn depends on the size of the array. Although Z1 is considered unsafe nowadays with disk sizes being so large |
| 13:08.47 | Workfoz | lots of unknowns |
| 13:09.09 | Workfoz | (and isn't there another level of buffering besides L2ARC that I'm missing?) |
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| 13:09.29 | nevcairiel | the level 1 ARC, just called ARC? :p |
| 13:09.39 | Neffi | The FreeNAS site and forums have very good recommendations on all this, and it depends on what kind of hardware you can afford. Eg, if you want a large Z3 array with dedup, you better have obscene amounts of RAM |
| 13:09.49 | Workfoz | maybe, but I'd hope I'd recall it if it was that easy |
| 13:10.04 | nevcairiel | well it does exist |
| 13:10.25 | Workfoz | just from reading stuff like the HardOCP storage forums, I know better than to suggest zfs to someone who hasn't used it ^^ |
| 13:10.29 | nevcairiel | the ARC is typically in memory and the L2ARC would live on a SSD (or a bunch of them) |
| 13:10.55 | Workfoz | (which includes myself, so... I'm going to stay away from it, even though the first impression is "oooh shiny") |
| 13:10.58 | quiescens | eh |
| 13:11.10 | Neffi | heh. that was my first impression |
| 13:11.13 | Workfoz | (it really is "ooooh shiny, if you take care of x, y, z, and the other stuff", though) |
| 13:11.32 | Workfoz | nevcairiel: the ZIL, I think |
| 13:11.34 | nevcairiel | all of the shiny features seem useless for a personal movie storage pool |
| 13:11.41 | Neffi | I have seen posts about people that just dont want to deal with ZFS and go with something like unRAID instead |
| 13:11.49 | quiescens | you should expect ridiculous ram usage if you try to use on the fly deduplication on any filesystem |
| 13:12.21 | Workfoz | I think I disregarded unraid because it's stand-alone |
| 13:12.32 | nevcairiel | yeah its an entire OS |
| 13:12.33 | quiescens | if people use stuff like that when they don't need it/when they don't understand it/without the needed hardware its not really the filesystem's fault |
| 13:12.34 | Workfoz | (case in point: so is zfs) |
| 13:12.35 | Neffi | yeah, except ZFS already uses obscene amounts of RAM, so it's doubly bad. If you want an 8 TB Z2 array without dedup, the min recommendation is 8 GB is that's considered "just barely scraping by.". 16+ is considered the norm for that |
| 13:12.57 | nevcairiel | its not like 16 GB of RAM is hard to come by these days |
| 13:13.00 | Workfoz | bleh, that's cheap. even if it is a lot more than other filesystems |
| 13:13.27 | Workfoz | quiescens: but... my Ceph setup with 3 drives is sooo awesome! |
| 13:13.34 | nevcairiel | sure, most systems top out at 32GB these days, but DDR4 is coming if you want to be serious, and can do more and more ram :p |
| 13:13.42 | Neffi | well conventional wisdom is "if you don't use ECC, don't expect help", so that means going for a decent server mobo and expensive RAM |
| 13:14.53 | Workfoz | it's not like ECC memory is that much more expensive |
| 13:15.35 | nevcairiel | if you stay in low capacities, its not |
| 13:15.41 | nevcairiel | but you do need a server motherboard |
| 13:15.43 | quiescens | it doesn't feel worth the effort a lot of the time these days |
| 13:15.43 | Workfoz | (but yes, it's certainly true... running a setup that's aimed at eliminating or at least detecting data corruption without RAM capable of detecting (or correcting) errors... is stupid) |
| 13:16.13 | Workfoz | unraid basically looks like flexraid, but stand-alone and with some NAS stuff strapped on |
| 13:16.26 | nevcairiel | functionality is pretty similar |
| 13:18.54 | nevcairiel | my laptop is being weird. It said battery 41%, plugged in, not charging. |
| 13:19.09 | nevcairiel | I remove the cable and plug it in again, and its at 99% <.< |
| 13:20.09 | quiescens | battery iz dying! |
| 13:20.18 | quiescens | /mourn |
| 13:42.53 | sb | hax - you cant write / as first character! |
| 13:43.01 | nevcairiel | of course you can |
| 13:43.14 | nevcairiel | its just your client being dumb |
| 13:43.16 | sb | the "!" implies that i'm just kidding :| |
| 13:49.22 | Workfoz | / :( |
| 13:50.44 | znf | / :( |
| 13:51.44 | silentium | /o\ |
| 13:53.14 | znf | \o/ |
| 13:55.31 | sb | /no! |
| 13:56.00 | sb | :/no! |
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| 14:34.13 | Fisker | time to haswell-e nevcairiel |
| 14:34.56 | nevcairiel | its too early |
| 14:35.44 | Fisker | It's never too early |
| 14:35.44 | nevcairiel | but rumors are that haswell-e has gotten the soldered TIM back, should make for good temps |
| 14:37.46 | nevcairiel | but what are you talking about Fisker |
| 14:37.56 | Fisker | that |
| 14:38.18 | quiescens | what is a soldered tim |
| 14:38.20 | quiescens | o.o |
| 14:38.39 | quiescens | poor tim ): |
| 14:39.01 | nevcairiel | instead of some default TIM, the cpu gets soldered to the heat spreader |
| 14:39.08 | nevcairiel | makes for much better heat transfer |
| 14:41.07 | nevcairiel | sandy bridge had that, which made it OC quite easily, with Ivy and Haswell they tried to save money, which caused worse thermal characteristics |
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| 14:51.44 | pompy | nevcairiel: but the refresh of haswell fixed that afaik. |
| 14:51.46 | pompy | http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2382001 |
| 14:52.19 | nevcairiel | not entirely, just improved the situation |
| 14:52.59 | nevcairiel | still not soldered in the refresh |
| 14:53.07 | pompy | http://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/anton-shilov/intel-core-i7-5960x-haswell-e-de-lidded-interesting-discoveries-found/ neat |
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| 16:06.39 | Timmeh | poor me :-( |
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| 16:15.08 | quiescens | gives timmeh a cookie |
| 16:15.55 | Workfoz | nevcairiel: you're wrong about the TIM situation btw |
| 16:16.08 | Workfoz | it's not the TIM, it's the spacing between the IHS and the die that's causing the problem |
| 16:16.46 | Workfoz | http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=34053183&postcount=566 |
| 16:16.54 | Workfoz | (entire thread is nice, but that's the relevant post) |
| 16:18.20 | Workfoz | (also we know nothing about their intentions behind the choice to go one way or another - conspiracy time!) |
| 16:19.18 | Industrial | Reading up a bit, I love this channel. Good to be back, guys! :-) |
| 16:19.38 | Industrial | (and gals, OFKOERS) |
| 16:24.49 | quiescens | go to sleep |
| 16:29.43 | Megalon | go to die |
| 16:39.33 | quiescens | ): |
| 16:45.35 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: who (rant)? |
| 16:45.38 | Stanzilla | nebula169: I linked you both :E |
| 16:46.01 | nebula169 | you linked me a combat log and a parse |
| 16:46.22 | Stanzilla | 20:05:24 ∙ Stanzilla: Funkeh` nebula169 https://www.dropbox.com/s/ij0ai3sdo8jmmv3/oregorged.lua should have all the stuff the boss does on this difficulty |
| 16:46.27 | Stanzilla | that is transcriptor |
| 16:47.09 | Stanzilla | https://www.dropbox.com/s/rqqqai9fvfz58x4/Transcriptor_TwinOgron.lua < second boss from yesterday |
| 16:48.01 | sb | Stanzilla: does SPTimers have ICD/cooldown blacklisting? couldnt find anything. its annoying because i dont care about stupid enchant on-use / trinket on-use cooldowns |
| 16:48.13 | Stanzilla | sb: yes, just untick "enable" :P |
| 16:48.25 | sb | not for everything :D |
| 16:48.30 | Stanzilla | Ressy: new swiftkey update btw, this time with performance fixes (cc znf Gnarfoz etc) |
| 16:48.37 | znf | that was one of my griefs, too, sb |
| 16:48.44 | znf | I couldn't figure out where to disable some stuff |
| 16:48.54 | znf | it was either burried in too deep or there was no option for it |
| 16:48.55 | Stanzilla | I always had the enable box :o |
| 16:49.05 | sb | Stanzilla: yes, but items are not listed |
| 16:49.09 | sb | e.g. glove enchant |
| 16:49.17 | sb | so i should post that to the H2P thread |
| 16:49.21 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 16:49.23 | znf | yeah, the glove enchant was the most annoying one for me, too |
| 16:49.25 | Stanzilla | I was about to suggest that |
| 16:49.27 | znf | couldn't find it |
| 16:49.35 | Stanzilla | probably hardcoded |
| 16:50.15 | Stanzilla | so what else did I miss today |
| 16:50.23 | Stanzilla | so far I only found a gforce driver update |
| 16:50.35 | sb | hobbit 3 trailer |
| 16:50.46 | Stanzilla | I saw that before going to bed, not going to watch it :D |
| 16:50.51 | znf | oh, btw |
| 16:50.57 | znf | I had some weird crashes lately on android |
| 16:51.06 | znf | while using swiftkey with facebook messenger |
| 16:51.12 | znf | the OS crashed completely |
| 16:51.18 | znf | or, rather |
| 16:51.19 | znf | the UI |
| 16:51.26 | znf | as I was getting a soft-reboot |
| 16:51.41 | znf | couldn't figure out what was causing it, though, either swiftkey or facebook messenger |
| 16:51.47 | Stanzilla | today*s update fixes some crashes, too |
| 16:52.08 | znf | I still haven't rooted :-/ |
| 16:52.09 | znf | so lazy |
| 16:52.59 | znf | oh, cool |
| 16:53.03 | znf | even AcDisplay updates! |
| 16:53.29 | sb | i think i should go home now |
| 16:54.27 | znf | meh, let's donate to this AcDisplay guy |
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| 16:55.41 | Stanzilla | nebula169: need anythign else? |
| 16:56.48 | sb | Stanzilla: so you are going to post this? |
| 16:58.45 | quiescens | don't do it! |
| 16:59.34 | Repo | pets-and-mounts: 03Shenton 07master * v1.6.4-1-g0fc576f (3 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Updated some spells level requirement Updating fr_FR localization |
| 16:59.41 | nebula169 | Stanzilla: shouldn't, did you kill either boss? |
| 16:59.55 | nebula169 | gf did the fights but didn't kill them so she can walk me through it |
| 17:00.21 | znf | so, they are actually doing raid testing on the beta... so early |
| 17:00.24 | znf | so interesting |
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| 17:00.47 | nebula169 | sept release looking legit |
| 17:01.06 | znf | late september, going to be my guess |
| 17:01.10 | nebula169 | yea |
| 17:01.13 | znf | (please let it be LATE september!) |
| 17:01.26 | znf | damn it, I was doing the laundry, got distracted |
| 17:01.26 | znf | brb |
| 17:02.41 | quiescens | attention_span--; |
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| 17:17.00 | Repo | pets-and-mounts: 03Shenton 04v1.6.5 * 991c363 /: [new tag] Tagging as v1.6.5 |
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| 17:35.10 | Stanzilla | nebula169: no |
| 17:36.33 | Stanzilla | nebula169: the second one had intentional overbuffed HP so you don't kill it |
| 17:36.44 | Stanzilla | the other one was super easy but we chose to try tactics till the test ended |
| 17:36.56 | Stanzilla | sb: no |
| 17:37.35 | znf | I want raid testing, too :( |
| 17:38.08 | Stanzilla | znf: so acdisplay is good? |
| 17:38.18 | znf | Stanzilla, it's still has some quirks, but I like it |
| 17:39.02 | znf | I like the way Peek displays notifications more than AcDisplay |
| 17:39.10 | znf | but Peek doesn't have the "permanent" lockscreen option |
| 17:39.54 | znf | (and it's overall crappier imho) |
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| 17:43.09 | Stanzilla | does it work with lockscreen widgets? |
| 17:43.40 | znf | only music so far :( |
| 17:43.42 | znf | I think |
| 17:43.45 | znf | wait, I have no idea |
| 17:43.49 | znf | I don't have any lockscreen widgets |
| 17:44.33 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 17:44.37 | znf | music seems to work |
| 17:44.59 | Stanzilla | if they release late september the game is going to be broken as fuck |
| 17:46.23 | quiescens | so.. september then |
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| 17:48.09 | znf | Is there any damn other way to prevent the moisture in the salt shaker? :-/ |
| 17:48.12 | znf | rice can only do so much |
| 17:48.53 | quiescens | stop adding water to the salt? |
| 17:49.27 | znf | it's not me! |
| 17:49.28 | znf | it's the air! |
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| 18:02.45 | znf | Google Maps _really_ needs a better easier way to cache stuff offline |
| 18:02.53 | znf | that crap with "ok maps" is annoying and inprecise as fuck |
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| 18:06.14 | znf | Oh wait, they actually have that on Android! |
| 18:07.55 | znf | or not |
| 18:11.54 | Stanzilla | znf: wtf are you doing |
| 18:12.00 | znf | Stanzilla, ?! |
| 18:12.00 | Stanzilla | just go to the place you want to save |
| 18:12.03 | Stanzilla | hit the search bar |
| 18:12.07 | Stanzilla | scroll down to "save this map" |
| 18:12.08 | Stanzilla | done |
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| 18:12.30 | znf | OH! |
| 18:12.33 | znf | Who ever scrolls down there? :o |
| 18:21.13 | Ressy | < |
| 18:23.07 | Fisker | < |
| 18:23.09 | Gnarfoz | sighs |
| 18:23.15 | Gnarfoz | https://mediacru.sh/mYVMsOvYpEBw wonderful way to spend an evening |
| 18:23.15 | Fisker | gnarfozes |
| 18:23.42 | Stanzilla | I blame jochen |
| 18:23.51 | Gnarfoz | you would be right to |
| 18:23.59 | Fisker | For? |
| 18:24.55 | Gnarfoz | wtf, "Rocket" seems to be a rebranded Chromium |
| 18:25.04 | Gnarfoz | where does he FIND this stuff |
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| 18:27.47 | Fisker | oh lol |
| 18:27.48 | Fisker | LOL |
| 18:28.05 | Fisker | The only way that screenshot could be worse is if he was still running vista |
| 18:28.32 | Fisker | Using gadgets should be punishable by law |
| 18:29.56 | Gnarfoz | sigh |
| 18:30.50 | Gnarfoz | yahoo_firefox_de_wrap_2014.04.141.11.22.23.exe yahoo_firefox_de_wrap_2014.04.141.11.22.23(1).exe googleupdatesetup.exe (he doesn't use Chrome) install_flashplayer114x32au_ltr5d64d_awc_aih.exe ZipExtractorSetup(2).exe ZipExtractorSetup(1).exe ZipExtractorSetup.exe |
| 18:30.54 | Gnarfoz | I despair |
| 18:31.19 | Stanzilla | ctrl a |
| 18:31.22 | Stanzilla | del |
| 18:31.33 | Gnarfoz | nice. Java tray icon says "hey, new java!" *click* "you're already on the latest Java platform!" |
| 18:31.50 | Gnarfoz | useless |
| 18:32.00 | Gnarfoz | (and it's certainly not the latest) |
| 18:34.12 | Gnarfoz | interestingly, the yahoo ones seem to just be downloads, he never ran them |
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| 18:40.03 | Gnarfoz | can't really blame someone who can't tell PDFCreator (print to pdf driver) apart from Adobe Reader |
| 18:40.55 | Gnarfoz | "when I print with PDFCreator it says there's some new thing (update available) and in general there seems to be a problem with the pdf [sic!], it's sometimes really slow when it opens" |
| 18:40.59 | Gnarfoz | "the pdf" >_> |
| 18:41.33 | Gnarfoz | nice. |
| 18:41.42 | Gnarfoz | pdfcreator bundles amazon 1button app |
| 18:41.46 | Gnarfoz | GTFO |
| 18:42.02 | Gnarfoz | it's not even a sourceforge download >_> |
| 18:50.03 | Gnarfoz | bleh |
| 18:54.02 | Gnarfoz | wow, I'm amazed |
| 18:54.07 | Gnarfoz | I set up Firefox Sync a long time ago for him |
| 18:54.11 | Gnarfoz | < smart guy |
| 18:57.48 | Gnarfoz | "MAGIX Video deluxe MX Plus Sonderedition" |
| 18:57.57 | Gnarfoz | that's not malware, but I'm marvelling at the name |
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| 19:01.31 | Gnarfoz | niiiice. |
| 19:01.41 | Gnarfoz | Beispiel.zip, only content: Beispiel.xlsm |
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| 19:17.21 | znf | Gnarfoz, that's like double zip |
| 19:17.25 | znf | if you change .xlsm to .zip |
| 19:17.27 | znf | surprise! :D |
| 19:20.01 | Gnarfoz | indeed |
| 19:20.20 | Gnarfoz | nice of microsoft to name excel files with macros in them differently |
| 19:32.36 | sb | BAH |
| 19:32.38 | sb | finished with work |
| 19:32.41 | sb | never again... |
| 19:33.17 | sb | stupid gradle update breaking buildserver |
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| 19:39.03 | Stanzilla | sb: gradle for android apps? |
| 19:45.58 | sb | nope, gradle for regular java apps |
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| 20:09.34 | Gnarfoz | sb: gj |
| 20:09.41 | sb | thank you |
| 20:13.24 | Stanzilla | hrm logitech g700s as special on amazon.com |
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| 20:15.48 | znf | woa |
| 20:15.52 | znf | h |
| 20:15.54 | znf | they changed the design on amazon |
| 20:16.10 | nebula169 | yea, i just saw that, lol |
| 20:16.20 | sb | Stanzilla: how much? |
| 20:16.34 | znf | $49.99 |
| 20:16.56 | nebula169 | 50% off logitech shit |
| 20:17.28 | nebula169 | g700s, g400s, g240 mousepad, and g710+ |
| 20:18.07 | Stanzilla | 54 euro with shipping and taxes etc |
| 20:18.14 | Stanzilla | still cheaper than on amazon.de |
| 20:18.38 | Stanzilla | *buys* |
| 20:18.41 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/iUOdDhc.png |
| 20:18.43 | znf | :-( |
| 20:18.53 | Stanzilla | :D |
| 20:19.17 | znf | show me yours! |
| 20:19.18 | znf | I'm curious |
| 20:19.46 | nebula169 | $49.99 & FREE Shipping. |
| 20:19.49 | nebula169 | :p |
| 20:19.56 | Stanzilla | nerf us and a |
| 20:19.58 | Stanzilla | znf: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/L0tebbnv6SY9.png |
| 20:20.21 | znf | *makes picture to compare* |
| 20:20.32 | znf | Stanzilla, give me a full pic! like mine! |
| 20:20.33 | znf | need to bitch on twitter |
| 20:20.38 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: +import taxes +customs |
| 20:20.39 | Gnarfoz | :( |
| 20:20.46 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: you sure? |
| 20:20.59 | Gnarfoz | it's goods from outside the EU, why would it not? |
| 20:21.00 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: I thought that's included in import fees |
| 20:21.13 | Gnarfoz | as if Amazon knew that beforehand |
| 20:21.39 | Gnarfoz | well, theoretically :D it should be possible to know beforehand |
| 20:21.45 | Stanzilla | well |
| 20:21.46 | Stanzilla | how can I know? |
| 20:22.00 | Gnarfoz | realistically? you can't, just order it |
| 20:22.01 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
| 20:22.17 | Stanzilla | already did lol |
| 20:22.21 | Gnarfoz | maybe they locked someone in the basement for 2 weeks to figure out the EU import fee catalogue |
| 20:22.48 | Stanzilla | Your estimated delivery date is:Thursday, August 14, 2014 -Friday, August 22, 2014 |
| 20:22.51 | Stanzilla | lolz |
| 20:23.04 | Stanzilla | whatever, can handle the fucking double clicking for a few more weeks |
| 20:23.24 | Gnarfoz | maybe it's even below some random limit and it'll just pass through |
| 20:23.58 | Gnarfoz | also, Amazon might be smart enough to not violate the "receipt on the outside of the package" rule |
| 20:24.13 | Gnarfoz | receipt? nah. err... thing. invoice. |
| 20:24.25 | nebula169 | packing slip? |
| 20:24.26 | znf | in .ro you don't pay tax (vat) on anything below $15 |
| 20:24.31 | Gnarfoz | no, it has to be the invoice |
| 20:24.34 | Gnarfoz | not the packing slip |
| 20:24.36 | Stanzilla | we'll see |
| 20:24.39 | znf | you pay vat on > $15 |
| 20:24.43 | Gnarfoz | znf: see, that's why you're poor! |
| 20:24.46 | znf | and you pay import fees > $50 |
| 20:24.57 | Stanzilla | also nebula169 I thought you wanted to go to bed? :D |
| 20:24.59 | Gnarfoz | or maybe it's "see, they do that because you're so poor" :| |
| 20:25.09 | nebula169 | i did :\ |
| 20:25.20 | Gnarfoz | znf: when are you moving further west again? :D |
| 20:25.27 | znf | probably never |
| 20:25.33 | Gnarfoz | shame |
| 20:25.47 | Ressy | Logitech doesn't have that big sale for Canada.. :( |
| 20:26.14 | Gnarfoz | bleh, US-only also makes little sense |
| 20:26.24 | Gnarfoz | considering it's a Swiss company :o |
| 20:26.42 | Gnarfoz | (ok there's no Amazon.ch) |
| 20:27.18 | Gnarfoz | I wonder how annoying Amazon.de is for the swiss |
| 20:27.59 | znf | it seems that amazon.de is slower than UK |
| 20:28.05 | znf | as in shipping |
| 20:28.22 | znf | (for international, obviously) |
| 20:28.26 | Gnarfoz | that's certainly possible, but also depends on the destination |
| 20:28.40 | Gnarfoz | maybe they route everything that goes to X via Y |
| 20:28.42 | Gnarfoz | and Y is London |
| 20:29.13 | znf | could be |
| 20:29.25 | znf | also .de seemed more expensive for a similarly sized item |
| 20:29.34 | znf | still hasn't received his Qi |
| 20:29.59 | Gnarfoz | no idea about that, can't really compare either - could be the same reason, or various different ones :D |
| 20:30.03 | Stanzilla | just took me 3 tries to read email without double clicking |
| 20:30.05 | Stanzilla | HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG |
| 20:30.20 | Gnarfoz | what do you click around in an email for? |
| 20:30.34 | Stanzilla | I click on the email in the list |
| 20:30.36 | Stanzilla | in thunderbird |
| 20:30.43 | Gnarfoz | boom, 3 email windows? |
| 20:30.44 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 20:30.45 | Stanzilla | and it always double clicks, so a new tab opens |
| 20:30.46 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 20:31.07 | Gnarfoz | also, awwwwwwww-maaaaaaan I missed the date to cancel the now-a-lot-more-expensive Prime |
| 20:31.16 | Gnarfoz | < repeat offender |
| 20:31.27 | Stanzilla | I need to cancle my phone contract in august |
| 20:31.35 | Stanzilla | here's hope that I dont forget it |
| 20:33.11 | Gnarfoz | simple |
| 20:33.33 | Gnarfoz | "Ok Google, remind me to cancel my phone contract on August 5th!!!" |
| 20:33.40 | Gnarfoz | wtf multi ! |
| 20:33.46 | Stanzilla | it's already in my keep |
| 20:33.47 | Gnarfoz | my number-row keys bounce a lot |
| 20:33.55 | Gnarfoz | http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/common/buying_online/buying_goods/within_non_eu_en.htm |
| 20:33.58 | Gnarfoz | there, good luck |
| 20:34.01 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
| 20:34.26 | Gnarfoz | (the actual tariff db: http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/dds2/taric/taric_consultation.jsp?Lang=de ) |
| 20:34.26 | Stanzilla | yeah nope |
| 20:34.53 | Gnarfoz | it's bureaucratic-fantastic! |
| 20:35.24 | Stanzilla | nope,nope |
| 20:35.26 | Stanzilla | just YOLO it |
| 20:35.32 | Stanzilla | probably will fall on my face again but hey |
| 20:38.11 | Funkeh` | Let me see if I can pull off this Stanzilla correctly |
| 20:38.19 | Funkeh` | 64bit and qt5 in mumble wooo |
| 20:38.38 | Stanzilla | wohoo |
| 20:38.47 | Stanzilla | now go work on beta modules :) |
| 20:44.28 | Gnarfoz | Funkeh`: Stan, is it you?! |
| 20:44.37 | Gnarfoz | the resemblance is scary |
| 20:46.28 | nebula169 | https://www.dropbox.com/s/6e662z17tr1dx3a/WoWScrnShot_072914_154603.jpg that'll little piece of land is the bane of my existence |
| 20:46.36 | nebula169 | erm that* |
| 20:47.19 | Stanzilla | wut happened |
| 20:47.49 | nebula169 | trying to get map overlay data, but i can't get that area to discover |
| 20:50.57 | Stanzilla | I'm quite happy that I got my UI almost error free on the beta |
| 20:51.05 | Stanzilla | only that libgroupinspect shit keeps happening |
| 20:52.42 | nebula169 | i haven't even tried, i always do beta with very few addons |
| 20:53.39 | Stanzilla | I always go all in then go "fuck it" on all the addons that I dont need and disable them :D |
| 20:55.23 | znf | any user frames work on beta? |
| 20:55.32 | znf | (as I'm not expecting SuF to work) |
| 20:57.26 | nebula169 | nothing really changed that would break them besides custom textures and guid parsing |
| 21:00.43 | Stanzilla | pitbull is sorta broken when it comes to text but yeah |
| 21:03.20 | Gnarfoz | is the g700s any good? |
| 21:03.37 | Gnarfoz | my g5 refresh is aging, too~ |
| 21:04.03 | Stanzilla | I have the g700 without s and love it |
| 21:04.12 | Gnarfoz | mhhh cheap: http://www.heise.de/preisvergleich/logitech-g5-laser-mouse-refresh-910-000094-a244304.html |
| 21:04.15 | Gnarfoz | xD |
| 21:05.24 | Stanzilla | I need teh buttons |
| 21:06.01 | Gnarfoz | (you didn't click, did you? :D) |
| 21:06.07 | Gnarfoz | what's the s for? "super"? |
| 21:06.20 | Stanzilla | just new |
| 21:06.23 | Stanzilla | new design |
| 21:06.34 | Stanzilla | and nope i did not |
| 21:06.50 | Gnarfoz | you should! :D |
| 21:07.28 | Gnarfoz | and yeah, I could do with some more buttons; I think I need a bigger mouse most, though |
| 21:07.33 | Gnarfoz | crazy hands! |
| 21:07.48 | Stanzilla | go try the 700 then |
| 21:08.27 | Gnarfoz | Logitech's are all the same size, aren't they? |
| 21:08.44 | Gnarfoz | I think I tried their MMO one |
| 21:08.53 | Stanzilla | dont think so |
| 21:09.14 | Gnarfoz | one thing I hate about basically all current mice: wibbly wobbly 4D scroll wheels |
| 21:09.44 | Gnarfoz | I have *never* felt the need to tilt the mouse wheel left or right, I wish that feature would just disappear again |
| 21:09.55 | Stanzilla | it's an extra bind |
| 21:10.06 | Gnarfoz | too wobbly to reliably use |
| 21:11.20 | Gnarfoz | I removed the default binds so it does nothing, middle click ended up being wheel-left/right+click way too often ^^ |
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| 21:30.27 | Stanzilla | I think I even did that, too |
| 21:30.38 | Stanzilla | will be fun migrating when I forget what I changed 5 years ago |
| 21:30.54 | Fisker | hi Stanzilla |
| 21:30.57 | Fisker | It is time |
| 21:30.59 | Stanzilla | hi |
| 21:33.41 | Repo | all-played-laotseu: 03laotseu 04 v50400-1b * r293 : Tagging as v50400-1b |
| 21:37.17 | Gnarfoz | meh, SwiftKey emoji drawer still slow as molasses |
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| 21:40.57 | Stanzilla | hate that emoji crap anyway |
| 21:40.59 | Stanzilla | wish I could disable it |
| 21:44.19 | sb | nah |
| 21:44.23 | sb | they are fine :D |
| 21:46.51 | sb | meh Stanzilla, i hate yout |
| 21:47.10 | sb | G600s |
| 21:47.11 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 21:47.12 | Stanzilla | why |
| 21:47.13 | sb | err 700 |
| 21:47.26 | sb | not sure if i want that mouse |
| 21:47.33 | Stanzilla | why hate? |
| 21:47.43 | sb | because i already have the 700 |
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| 21:47.57 | Stanzilla | I only bought a new one because mine is broken |
| 21:47.59 | Stanzilla | no rush |
| 21:50.57 | znf | I want the emoji from iOS |
| 21:51.01 | znf | the android ones look like crap :-/ |
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| 21:57.27 | Fisker | want ban znf ? |
| 21:59.00 | Neffi | znf: these emojis? http://i.imgur.com/F5dh6I4.jpg |
| 21:59.12 | znf | well, honestly |
| 21:59.16 | znf | the android ones look like that :D |
| 21:59.19 | Neffi | embrace the candy! |
| 21:59.36 | znf | http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-SLQQCZrAvJo/UdMiPa_CkuI/AAAAAAAAFZs/3muQRDapKv0/s1092/iOSGoogleHangout.png |
| 21:59.37 | sb | giev candy |
| 21:59.43 | znf | top row is iOS, bottom is android :( |
| 21:59.53 | Neffi | znf: that was the joke |
| 22:00.00 | Neffi | i can't look at them without thinking of those candies |
| 22:00.26 | Neffi | but the iOS ones are too shiny. so there's thart |
| 22:02.06 | sb | eh znf, its easy |
| 22:02.12 | znf | sb, too lazy to root :D |
| 22:02.17 | sb | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:02.19 | sb | and stuff |
| 22:02.49 | znf | up time: 17 days, 22:21:12, idle time: 9 days, 12:18:39, sleep time: 8 days, 05:13:14 |
| 22:02.50 | znf | cool |
| 22:02.52 | znf | my phone's uptime |
| 22:03.13 | Neffi | I once had like 200 days uptime |
| 22:03.17 | sb | i'm < 7 |
| 22:03.27 | sb | because weekly rom builds |
| 22:03.56 | Neffi | It was an old phone that I had underclocked for battery. My plan got cancelled so I took it off the charger and put it in my drawer. Checks a while later, and the fucker was still on |
| 22:04.06 | znf | highest I ever had on my phone was 87 days on my HTC Desire |
| 22:04.14 | znf | that was running android 2.3.1 :D |
| 22:04.28 | Neffi | yeah, this was running a very barebones 2.3.4 I believe |
| 22:04.41 | Neffi | I mean, the most hardcore stock AOSP ROM I could find |
| 22:05.24 | znf | Wonder what the price of Nexus 6 will be |
| 22:05.25 | znf | and the specs |
| 22:05.27 | znf | and stuff like that |
| 22:05.28 | znf | :-S |
| 22:06.08 | sb | and shipping to .ro |
| 22:06.50 | znf | TIL during the late 1800s a baboon was employed by the railroad as a signalman. He never once made a mistake and worked for the railroad until his death. |
| 22:07.01 | znf | well, that gives "a monkey could do that job" a whole new meaning |
| 22:08.05 | Stanzilla | the future looks so good if all the apps follow suit https://plus.google.com/103836983213919117529/posts/bKTXMumcZHy |
| 22:09.06 | Funkeh` | wtf Stanzilla |
| 22:09.11 | Funkeh` | Im disappointed |
| 22:09.16 | Stanzilla | yes it is old |
| 22:09.19 | znf | a video? :-/ |
| 22:09.21 | Stanzilla | but I was sleeping all day |
| 22:09.21 | znf | give screenshots |
| 22:09.23 | Funkeh` | you didn't let us know there's a new nmvidia driver update |
| 22:09.25 | znf | I cba do watch a video |
| 22:09.31 | Stanzilla | lol Funkeh` I did |
| 22:09.32 | znf | Funkeh`, he did |
| 22:09.36 | Stanzilla | so bad |
| 22:09.37 | Funkeh` | oh |
| 22:09.52 | Stanzilla | znf: animations dont come across very good in non-videos |
| 22:09.57 | sb | so Stanzilla is as useful as my nvdia control center |
| 22:10.18 | znf | Stanzilla, sure they do |
| 22:10.18 | Stanzilla | sb: usually faster |
| 22:10.19 | znf | .gifs! |
| 22:10.21 | Stanzilla | but not today |
| 22:10.26 | znf | and animated .webp's |
| 22:10.32 | Stanzilla | znf: nope, needs more fps |
| 22:10.45 | znf | you can make webps in 60fps... >_< |
| 22:10.47 | znf | also gifs |
| 22:10.56 | Stanzilla | but nobody does |
| 22:11.03 | Stanzilla | so stfu and watch the video |
| 22:11.09 | znf | so, android question |
| 22:11.13 | znf | something keeps crashing |
| 22:11.16 | znf | I have no idea what |
| 22:11.24 | znf | once in a few days I get a "bug report" |
| 22:11.29 | znf | and I have no idea what to do with it |
| 22:12.19 | znf | gives me the option to "share" it to email and stuf |
| 22:12.53 | sb | "something"? |
| 22:12.59 | sb | no app name? |
| 22:13.32 | znf | nope |
| 22:13.36 | znf | just says "bug report captured" |
| 22:14.06 | znf | and I get a black screenshot |
| 22:14.09 | znf | and a 9.1MB log file |
| 22:14.35 | sb | whats in there? |
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| 22:16.14 | znf | sb, just a dump |
| 22:16.16 | znf | with lots of stuff |
| 22:17.11 | znf | realy have no idea how to read it |
| 22:20.16 | znf | uhm, Stanzilla |
| 22:20.24 | znf | why does my device appear as "offline" in adb devices? :-/ |
| 22:20.52 | Stanzilla | usb debugging disabled? |
| 22:21.53 | znf | it's enabled |
| 22:22.52 | znf | I'll just reboot it... |
| 22:22.53 | znf | *sigh* |
| 22:23.57 | znf | Oh |
| 22:24.00 | znf | Apparently I have an old ADB |
| 22:25.38 | znf | still offline |
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| 22:43.16 | Stanzilla | usuck |
| 22:48.32 | znf | fixed it :P |
| 22:48.41 | Stanzilla | what was it |
| 23:15.20 | Fisker | He probably had a version that doesn't support cryptography |
| 23:16.01 | Fisker | That is the challenge necessary to pair it to the computer |
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| 23:23.21 | znf | what Fisker said |
| 23:24.29 | znf | Stanzilla, with all these "quality" changes in WoD |
| 23:24.32 | znf | spriest will be boring as fuck :( |
| 23:24.51 | Stanzilla | nope |
| 23:24.54 | Stanzilla | every class, not only shadow :p |
| 23:24.56 | znf | no more little tricks to get more pewpewpew |
| 23:25.50 | znf | no more dot snapshot |
| 23:25.54 | znf | no more haste breakpoints |
| 23:26.09 | znf | we're going to go back to fixed rotations |
| 23:30.41 | znf | Tremor Totem is no longer usable while under the effects of Fear, Charm, or Sleep. |
| 23:30.44 | znf | wait what |
| 23:31.37 | znf | >The talent has been redesigned for Balance Druids and now causes Moonfire and Sunfire casts with Lunar or Solar Peak to also heal a random injured ally. |
| 23:31.46 | znf | Heh. Balance gets shadowy abilities! |
| 23:32.22 | znf | >Insanity has been changed to cause consuming Shadow Orbs to transform Mind Flay into Insanity for 2 seconds per Shadow Orb consumed. |
| 23:32.30 | znf | uhm |
| 23:32.34 | Stanzilla | no more clipping :p |
| 23:32.49 | znf | :-/ |
| 23:33.03 | znf | I guess that mechanic goes out the window, too |
| 23:34.01 | Stanzilla | yup |
| 23:36.13 | znf | So, what will we do for fun? :-| |
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| 23:38.15 | Torhal | Kill all the white people. |
| 23:40.29 | Stanzilla | or go to sleep |
| 23:40.47 | Stanzilla | might miss a d3 ptr and wowbeta build though |
| 23:40.51 | Stanzilla | decisions decisions |
| 23:42.44 | znf | I'm not happy, Stanzilla :( |
| 23:43.00 | Stanzilla | who is these days |
| 23:43.18 | znf | with the changes to WoD, Stanzilla |
| 23:43.24 | Stanzilla | I know |
| 23:45.15 | znf | shitty mastery :( |
| 23:45.46 | Stanzilla | aw well, it's a really different playstyle atm |
| 23:45.50 | Stanzilla | with CoP |
| 23:45.52 | Stanzilla | and the mastery |
| 23:46.26 | Stanzilla | you don*t put dots up on your main target, but DP |
| 23:46.33 | Stanzilla | and during DP you flay (insanity) |
| 23:46.37 | Stanzilla | otherwise you spike and MB |
| 23:46.39 | Primer | Double Penetration? |
| 23:46.42 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 23:47.51 | znf | yeah, I'm reading the thread on h2p |
| 23:47.54 | znf | boring as fuck |
| 23:48.05 | znf | >In practice, it is mind numbing. Playing it feels like this: MB FIEND 90 MS MB MS MS MS MB MS MS MS MB MS MS MS MS MS DP MB 90 FLAY. |
| 23:48.30 | Primer | what is 90? |
| 23:48.35 | Stanzilla | not sure why you would do something else between DP and flay? |
| 23:48.38 | Stanzilla | Primer: the lvl 90 talent |
| 23:49.10 | Primer | And that is now a choice? |
| 23:49.12 | Primer | not just Halo? |
| 23:49.21 | Stanzilla | always has been |
| 23:49.23 | Stanzilla | even in current content |
| 23:50.03 | Primer | I haven't PVE'd in a while |
| 23:50.10 | Primer | we stopped raiding months ago |
| 23:50.16 | Primer | even then I never switched from halo |
| 23:50.19 | Primer | I guess I was just bad |
| 23:50.21 | znf | You don't always Halo. |
| 23:50.33 | znf | You don't halo on Norushen, for example |
| 23:50.40 | Primer | because... |
| 23:50.42 | znf | you want the extra healing |
| 23:50.49 | znf | because you stay bunched up in a line... |
| 23:50.54 | Primer | from cascade? |
| 23:50.57 | Primer | or DS? |
| 23:50.59 | znf | DS |
| 23:51.07 | Primer | yeah, well, our healers had it down |
| 23:51.11 | znf | cascade went the way of the dodo bird |
| 23:51.13 | Primer | they never needed my help |
| 23:51.22 | znf | Hasn't been useful since Horidon :P |
| 23:51.36 | Stanzilla | I used cascade sometimes on sha |
| 23:51.46 | Stanzilla | and norushen |
| 23:51.47 | znf | I halo there :P |
| 23:52.02 | znf | we haven't done any other boss other than garrosh hc in ages anyway :D |
| 23:52.12 | Stanzilla | do you buy IDs or what? |
| 23:52.15 | Stanzilla | or still wipe to it? |
| 23:52.18 | Primer | more importantly, what's best for pvp? |
| 23:52.37 | znf | still wipe on it |
| 23:52.40 | Stanzilla | bads |
| 23:52.43 | znf | yeah |
| 23:52.46 | znf | people don't learn |
| 23:52.50 | znf | I even kind of stopped showing up for raids |
| 23:52.59 | Stanzilla | I'm goign to bed now, bai |
| 23:53.01 | znf | looked trough the dkp addon today, my attendance was at 35% :D |
| 23:53.03 | znf | bye |
| 23:55.55 | znf | points and laughs at Primer |
| 23:56.04 | znf | I don't think any regular in here actually cares much about pvp :D |
| 23:57.35 | Primer | that's too bad |
| 23:57.45 | Primer | because it's by far the most challenging content in the game |
| 23:58.17 | znf | your oppinion |
| 23:58.36 | Neffi | I care about pvp :| |
| 23:59.44 | znf | great |
| 23:59.53 | znf | I wanted to play the beta |
| 23:59.57 | znf | got d/c'd while making a char |
