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02:38.09quiescens!
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08:37.51sbbtw, why is there no wod beta key giveaway on curse? every other site doing it (not talking about addon author stuff) :o
08:58.48quiescensbetas are overrated
08:58.58quiescensjust play released games
08:58.59quiescenso.o
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09:01.51nebula169dat prerelease hype!
09:03.57sbi already have a key, asking for other ppl :p
09:04.06sbgf doesnt have a key yet
09:04.12quiescenspoint stands
09:05.33sbbecause new is always better
09:05.52quiescens):
09:06.46sbWorkfoz: http://www.onlinekosten.de/news/artikel/58850/0/Amazon-Wallet-Mit-der-Payment-App-an-die-Ladenkasse - wonder if amazon can make it to germany before goodle
09:06.49sbgoogle :|
09:07.38Workfozperhaps
09:07.49Workfozare there any NFC payment things operating in Germany, yet?
09:07.54WorkfozPayWave or something?
09:08.05sbmastercard
09:08.07WorkfozI guess the MasterCard & VISA ones are already operable
09:08.15Workfozbut I meant smartphone based
09:17.42Workfozalthough neither my MasterCard nor my VISA have NFC, yet
09:18.12Workfozmy Maestro card does, but it's for the GeldKarte chip, not for my bank account
09:18.20Workfoz(although that exists in the wild, too, and is horrible)
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09:31.42sbhttps://www.ing-diba.de/ueber-uns/wissenswert/paywave/
09:31.42sboh
09:32.03sbcard expires 08/14
09:32.05sbOH
09:32.10sbso giev NFC card, nao!
09:32.18quiescenso.o
09:32.39quiescensgives sb a cookie
09:39.22Repopets-and-mounts: 03Shenton 07master * v1.6.2-3-gfa7b034 Core.lua: [+1 commit] Fixed error with specialization detection
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09:58.55EthanCentauraiI wonder...
09:59.13EthanCentauraishould I redo parts of TSI in bits?
09:59.28EthanCentauraior should I rewrite the whole damn thing from scratch?
09:59.46EthanCentauraior should I dump it altogether?
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10:01.41quiescenswhat is a tsi?
10:01.51EthanCentauraimy TradeSkillInfo mod
10:01.54quiescensbribe someone else to do it
10:02.42quiescensi nominate sbu
10:06.20Stanzillahi
10:06.26EthanCentauraihi Stan
10:06.59quiescensstan is op
10:11.32EthanCentauraiI wonder if I'll ever get TSI to similar ARL standards
10:11.37EthanCentauraiand it's depressing me
10:18.19Stanzillawhat is tsi and what are arl standards
10:21.31nevcairielarl has standards? I thought its from ackis
10:22.47EthanCentauraiok, I'll admit I laughed :D
10:25.27Workfozsb: nice album, collection of b-sides and other stuff https://play.google.com/music/m/Bg3s4ipdajj3d5326hntchtqo7e
10:25.47Workfoz(who else has all access?)
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10:33.15Repotradeskill-info: 03ethancentaurai * r647  (12 files in 2 directories): Outsource translations to the WoWace Localization webpage.
10:34.30sbWorkfoz: + listens to metal :p
10:34.31sbthanks
10:40.31sbWorkfoz: i has daimler energy drink!
10:45.57Workfoz...eww?
10:45.58Workfozmaybe.
10:46.06Workfozwhy does Daimler have an energy drink
10:46.13winko_O
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10:56.02EthanCentauraiI think I broke the packager.
10:59.42Stanzillagood job man
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11:10.50quiescens\o/
11:11.07quiescensgives ethancentaurai a cookie
11:21.25nevcairielYay I get my freedom back tomorrow
11:21.41Stanzillanot enjoying the hospital?
11:22.27nevcairielIts fucking boring
11:22.44StanzillaI know :/
11:23.49nevcairielCan't wait for the next 6 weeks to pass until I can actually wall again
11:24.01nebula169nevcairiel: what happened?
11:24.22nevcairielBroke my foot
11:24.49nebula169ouch
11:26.06Stanzillaoh feedly has pull to refresh finally
11:26.32Workfozwhat does "breaking your foot" entail? there's like 50 bones in there or something?
11:26.41Workfoz+ligaments and muscles
11:26.56Stanzillawanna know the latin name of the bone, too?
11:27.08nevcairielAs if I know the name of that particular bone
11:27.17Workfozwell what happened
11:27.57nevcairielDislocated the ankle and in the process shattered one of the bones that make up the joint
11:28.24Workfozaugh :F
11:28.34Workfozwrong shoes for hiking?
11:29.25nevcairielI guess better shoes may have protected me slightly better, but I probably shouldn't have jumped this far
11:32.59Workfozoh you jumped
11:33.01Workfozok
11:34.19nevcairielNow got a metal plate and a few screws in the foot, and 6 to 8 weeks no walking
11:34.47nevcairielBut the doctors are at least happy with the reconstruction they did
11:35.09Workfozscience!
11:35.55WorkfozI wonder how I'm going to convince our IT boss-guy that leaving gaps (or even partial gaps!) between servers in 19" racks is pointless and stupid
11:36.17nebula169better airflow, duuuuuuuuuuh
11:36.38Workfozyou mean worse airflow?
11:36.38nevcairielWhat's a partial gap
11:36.39Workfoz:D
11:37.05nebula169the duh was suppose to indicate sarcasm, jeeeeeeeeeeez
11:37.09Workfoznevcairiel: leaving a 1/3U or 2/3U gap
11:37.47nevcairielDo racks even allow for such things
11:38.01Workfozdepends on how strong you are
11:38.04Workfoz:D
11:38.50Workfozthe racks in our current DC are pretty crappy, the tolerances are so big you barely notice that the mounting holes of adjacent U's are NOT spaced evenly
11:39.16Workfozmaybe the racks in the new DC are great and won't allow that
11:39.23nevcairielBut you don't usually have any airflow between cases, they are designed to pull stuff from front to back, not rely on external circulation
11:39.31Workfozbut... that will probably just result in "ok, then we'll only use one screw per side"
11:39.42Workfoznevcairiel: tell him that? I've tried before.
11:40.14Workfozhe babbles about servers giving off heat vertically and affecting the stuff in the next U
11:40.15nevcairielWhy does everyone have people that know nothing of their job
11:40.26nevcairielWell I suppose they do
11:40.38nevcairielBut you still don't have ventilation there
11:40.44WorkfozI couldn't find ONE server in our DC that wasn't cold to the touch on top
11:41.05Workfoz(perhaps because of the spacing, duh. but... you get the idea.)
11:41.30Workfozespecially bad: our new DC actually has cold/hot aisles
11:41.39nevcairielI guess if their fans run properly and the environment is properly climate controlled they shouldn't build up any heat anyway
11:41.48Workfozso fucking that up will impact temperature across the board
11:42.02Workfoznevcairiel: google agrees, verily
11:42.15Workfozbut... tell that to the resident "old guy"
11:42.32Workfozwho says that his opinion was formed by first hand experience
11:42.34Workfoz...
11:42.45Workfozthis shit is DESIGNED to work with no gaps between them
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11:43.07Workfozagasjhgakjhg
11:43.31Workfozthe only issue I think we might have is our plan to put the switches in the middle of the rack
11:43.36Workfozthey are not deep enough
11:43.49nevcairielWell of course when a single server still filled the entire basement, you probably had more heat problems as well. But old people gotta go with the time
11:44.00Workfozso if we sandwich them between servers, they'll have hot air trapped behind them
11:44.25nevcairielDon't switches usually go on the top
11:44.27Workfozperhaps we should move them to the top
11:44.28Megalon"But old people gotta go" - nevcairiel
11:44.35Megaloni support you supporting euthanasia, nev
11:45.12WorkfozI support you supporting nevcairiel supporting euthanasia, Megalon
11:45.38Megaloncirclyjerkfoz
11:46.22Megalonthe plan is to kill the old guy, *foz
11:46.46Megalonfull serverracks fall over all the time
11:46.53Megalonwinkwink
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11:51.19TimmehWorkfoz: I think it'd actually remain cooler stacked on top of eachother, having 2 cooled surfaces touch, rather than allowing for potential warmer air inbetween
11:51.35Timmehwell, almost touch, I guess
11:53.31Timmehbut with cold/warm aisles (I'm actually surprised there are DCs without them...) cooling shouldn't be any kind of problem
11:53.37Timmeheven if the surfaces were warm
11:55.25TimmehWorkfoz: in the DC we have our servers, they actually cover the front of racks where there are gaps with metal plates
11:55.34Timmehjust to ensure any cold air that passes to the back side goes through a server
11:56.09nebula169yea, that was the point, it's silly to have gaps between racks
11:59.01EthanCentauraiAre Starter Accounts allowed to pet battle?
11:59.19nevcairielDon't see why not
11:59.23nevcairielBut who knows
11:59.25Timmehbecause blizzard!
12:01.30StanzillaFisker Gnarfoz Funkeh` https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ML11ZyyMpnAr6clIAwWrXD53pQgNR-DppMYwt9XvE6s/edit?pli=1#heading=h.n30fi956cpfk
12:01.54Workfozthe deep link doesn't seem to work
12:02.00Stanzilladoesnt matter
12:02.13Workfozwhat are you trying to point out? I've seen the document in general
12:02.20Stanzillanothing then
12:02.28EthanCentauraiLooks like a nope. I can learn the skill but can't battle anything.
12:02.41Workfozok :D
12:03.23Workfozyou have to do the quests :o
12:03.26Workfoz(don't you?)
12:04.34TimmehWorkfoz: we need to go deeper!
12:04.55Timmeh(that was a late Re: "the deep link doesn't seem to work")
12:05.24Workfoz:O
12:05.30Workfozwell, I'm not sure how I can convince him
12:06.06Workfozsince he's old-guy I doubt tons of links to English content will do much good, I should probably try to find some German stuff
12:09.28Timmehwe have 4U in a DC, 3 servers + 1 switch (mounted backwards), we were even asked to plate off the front of place where the switch is, since it didn't extend to the front, to optimise airflow
12:24.07sbWorkfoz: http://www.golem.de/news/mobilfunkbetreiber-ausgetrickst-apple-will-mobiles-bezahlen-per-iphone-ermoeglichen-1407-108089.html stupid apple...
12:42.16EthanCentauraiWorkfoz: Aye, I have the skill and the first quest, but it says "Failed to start pet battle" every time.
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13:31.55Workfozsb: sad thing: they will succeed
13:33.09sbwhy cant they just play along and integrate nfc...
13:34.35nevcairielBecause apple makes money on inventing their own shit instead of following industry standards
13:35.33nevcairielBeing compatible with other stuff would mean people could buy another phone later!
13:36.02sbits not only about people, shops need terminals and stuff
13:36.23sband why support apple when you can reach much more customers with android/windows
13:36.46sbso they just slow everything down :|
13:36.55nevcairielBest case they don't and apple falls on its face
13:37.10Fiskerin theory yes sb
13:37.15Fiskerin practice they don't believe so
13:37.15nevcairielBut they are more likely to support apple and screw everyone else
13:38.17nevcairielProbably because apple will start shelling out money to subsidize their thing
13:38.17Fiskermostly because they believe that pretty much every apple user will jump on it
13:39.28Fiskera lot of android users are just people who need to call after all
13:47.30sbright...
13:47.40sbokay, giving out free terminals is something apple could do
13:48.07Workfozso much rant @ fefe
13:48.09Workfoz:D
13:48.15sbvisa/mastercard should team up with google+amazon to push nfc :o
13:48.18Workfoz(ok I haven't read for a couple of days)
13:48.26sbbah fefe
13:48.32Megalonhow much rps is fefe at right now?
13:48.42Workfozrants per... what?
13:48.48Workfozsecond :o
13:48.55nevcairielI never read fefe, its all just rants
13:48.55Workfoz0.0000000something
13:48.57Workfoz:D
13:49.17WorkfozI read the articles he rants about
13:49.18Megalonthat's not a lot of rants :<
13:49.28Workfozhis rants are indeed some times a bit dumb
13:49.41Workfozbut I wouldn't see many of the articles otherwise
13:49.56nevcairielAnyone got any experience with the Intel Iris Pro GPU?
14:00.47sbwtb 850pro
14:02.48Workfozwait until it's out, then
14:04.05Workfozseveral of the shops that list it at Geizhals say 31.07.
14:04.26sbthats by b'day
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14:17.23sbhas to be good then
14:17.29sbFisker: when is moto360? :(
14:17.47Megalon!soon sb
14:20.16Fiskerwhen isn't it?
14:22.51Megalon360 Fisker, that means 5 days of the years it ain't not
14:26.13EthanCentauraiThis is hard.
14:30.43pompysb: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147360
14:32.29sbpompy: interesting
14:32.46sbnow EU/DE
14:34.37pompysb: http://www.amazon.de/dp/B009LI7CTY            ?
14:35.15sbuhm
14:35.17pompynm
14:35.32sbWorkfoz is right - http://geizhals.de/samsung-ssd-850-pro-512gb-mz-7ke512bw-a1136104.html
14:35.37sb~10 more days
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14:42.10pompyyeah and here, the 512 is already out, but the 1tb isnt till august 8
14:45.00EthanCentauraiI am doing programming while drinking coffee. Does this count as installing java?
14:48.13bluspacecowdepends is there an install process you have instigated while you are slacking off ?
14:48.46EthanCentauraiit's commonly referred to as, "waiting for the kettle to boil"
14:55.32EthanCentauraiputting the coffee powder and sugar into your mug is the first stage of the compiling
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15:06.48WorkfozI bet your coffee is not actually Java
15:09.00quiescenso.o
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15:11.36bluspacecowhmmmm
15:12.05quiescensgives blu a cookie
15:12.11bluspacecowif coffee is not java is it instant coffee ?
15:12.26Workfozno, it's just not from Java
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15:23.11EthanCentauraiTrying to figure out how my own code works.
15:23.15EthanCentauraiNot successful.
15:23.18EthanCentauraiNeed moar coffee.
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16:03.47StanzillaGoogle is giving each and every Chromecast owner a free three-month subscription to Play Music All Access.
16:03.48Stanzillaoh hey
16:04.56Stanzillaoh US only
16:08.22FiskerJerks
16:10.21FiskerI wonder if an US chromecast will work
16:10.24Fiskeror if it's the same
16:12.14Stanzillaour chromecasts are us chromecasts?
16:12.19Stanzillaand I tried it, didn't work
16:14.03FiskerI have 2
16:22.08Fiskermaybe we'll get an offer when it's 1 year old here though
16:22.13Repotradeskill-info: 03ethancentaurai * r649  (3 files in 3 directories):
16:22.13RepoFixed Jewelcrafting datamining. (Juwelenschleifen -> Juwelierskunst)
16:23.24EthanCentaurai~x de en Juwelenschleifen
16:23.31EthanCentaurai~ping
16:23.36purl~pong
16:23.37quiescenso.o
16:24.02EthanCentauraihow do purl translations?
16:24.23quiescenspats purl
16:24.27quiescensthat ping took a while o.o
16:24.38EthanCentauraiI broke purl. :(
16:24.48quiescens):
16:24.51quiescenswhy would you do such a thing
16:24.53EthanCentaurai~x de en Juwelierskunst
16:25.02EthanCentauraiI didn't mean to, honest!
16:26.23Stanzillait's the correctr translation, EthanCentaurai
16:27.22EthanCentauraiwhich one? :B
16:28.05Stanzillaboth but wow uses Juwelierskunst
16:28.28znfJuwelierskunst?!
16:28.39znfOh
16:28.43znfnevermind me, I just woke u
16:28.45znfp
16:28.53EthanCentauraimakes znf some coffee.
16:29.01znfI just had a Burn
16:29.02znfbut thanks
16:29.27EthanCentauraiAye my dataminer was looking for Juwelenschleifen, but buffed.de uses Juwelierskunst so it fell over
16:29.48FiskerWant to hail hydra Stanzilla ?
16:29.59StanzillaEthanCentaurai: http://de.wowhead.com/skill=755/jewelcrafting
16:30.16Stanzillabuffed.de is the fox news of wow database sites
16:31.00EthanCentauraithen please feel free to make my miner work with wowhead
16:31.15Stanzillanothx
16:31.48EthanCentauraiIt works, so I don't care.
16:32.03Stanzilla:D
16:32.30StanzillaI need an addon that enhances recipe tooltips with the information which of my character is still missing it
16:32.36Stanzillacan your addon do that?
16:32.57Ressypssst Torhal.. When you gonna add that?
16:33.17Stanzillayeah really
16:33.20EthanCentauraiMaybe.
16:33.32RessyTo be fair, Torhal's been working on Curse stuff.
16:33.35Ressynonstop almost
16:33.37StanzillaEthanCentaurai: you are not a good marketing person, are you? D
16:33.49StanzillaRessy: i know
16:33.51silentiumAltoholic does that IIRC
16:33.54EthanCentauraiWell I made some big-ass changes so it might be broken. :P
16:33.59EthanCentaurailemme check the AH
16:34.15silentium@stanzilla
16:35.49znfIt's quite painfully funny to watch the comments on posts made by OnePlus One on facebook/twitter/G+
16:36.11FiskerWhy painfully?
16:36.12znf"doesn't matter, can't buy" :D
16:36.50FiskerMaybe one day they will have sold more than @0
16:36.51Fisker@0
16:36.56FiskerFuck you
16:36.59Fisker10
16:41.10EthanCentauraiStanzilla: current release/alpha should work fine
16:41.18Stanzillacool
16:41.26Stanzillaand thanks silentium
16:41.32Stanzillabut altoholic was like 293848239847 modules iirc
16:42.30silentiumThat's all the datastore modules, yes
16:46.50Stanzillanew agent and bna is out
16:50.10EthanCentauraiWhat versions are they now?
16:50.53Stanzilla1.1.6.4872 bna, 1.14.1.3147 agent
16:53.53EthanCentaurai[UPDATING INTENSIFIES]
16:57.04quiescenso.o
16:57.20EthanCentauraiupdates quiescens.
16:57.56Thaoky@Stanzilla: indeed Altoholic does that .. but yeah, a lot of datastore modules, which might be overkill if you only need the recipe tooltips enhancements
17:05.23Stanzillaneato
17:05.28Stanzillalooks like I have a few addons to chose from
17:06.55Stanzillahttp://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/327690-artcraftbody-moovin/
17:09.09Thaoky./sexy !
17:13.12nevcairielSavory
17:13.51Fiskerman Stanzilla
17:14.00FiskerHow long will it take for my chromecast to figure out there's an update D:
17:14.02Stanzillaman Fisker
17:14.27nevcairielUse the android app and force an update check?
17:15.13FiskerThere isn't that option
17:16.49StanzillaMysticalOS: installed yosemite yet?
17:23.11Reporarity: 03allara * r253  (4 files in 2 directories):  (1 line trimmed from commit message)
17:23.11RepoWarning: this build of Rarity only works on the Warlords of Draenor beta client.
17:23.11Repo- Added the new WoD archaeology races: Arakkoa, Draenor Clans, and Ogre
17:23.11Repo- Fixed the width of various things in the options UI so the text doesn't get abbreviated when using the default font
17:23.33FiskerI ate food nevcairiel
17:33.21Kalrothgrats
17:42.18StanzillaThe Chrome Team is excited to announce the beta release of Chrome 37 for Android. Chrome 37.0.2062.39 will be available in Google Play over the next few hours. This release contains a number of new features including:
17:42.19Stanzilla<PROTECTED>
17:48.29Stanzillathat looks sexy
17:55.12Stanzillahttps://plus.google.com/115606326250597916239/posts/AhbRuJPfUxA
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18:12.56FiskerLooks like sex Stanzilla
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18:30.03nevcairielLink says not found
18:40.34Stanzillaweird
18:40.39Stanzillayou are in my circles though
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18:42.34Stanzillaeven changed the icon of the app https://plus.google.com/u/0/114431733408195789617/posts/ciu6HiDom9s?pid=6039693798147663826&oid=106787432735371347997
18:42.41Stanzillamore moonshine \o/
18:43.36MysticalOSStanzilla, no, i avoid buggy beta OSes on primary machines :P
18:44.08StanzillaMysticalOS: is that was it is atm? very buggy?
18:48.37Stanzillahttp://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/13567677032#1
18:48.39Stanzillahaha
18:48.50Ressylol.. saw that too
18:49.40Stanzillatime to rename some wtf folders
18:53.48quiescensrename it to wth?
18:54.46nevcairielStupid people are stupid
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18:59.11FiskerI came in your circles Stanzilla
18:59.17Fiskernice icon though
18:59.21Stanzillayus
18:59.31Stanzillayour highlight got me all excited
18:59.39Stanzillathought it was guillotine
18:59.42Stanzillabut noo
18:59.44Stanzillajust the Fisker
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18:59.52FiskerD:
19:02.37FiskerHadn't figured I could beat heroic bosses in like 1, 2 and 3 tries respectively
19:07.49RessyI wonder if they changed leveling realm 2 to pve
19:11.55Fiskersb
19:11.57Fiskerhttp://www.androidpolice.com/2014/07/24/psa-the-moto-360-will-be-the-first-android-wear-device-with-an-ambient-light-sensor/
19:25.16sbnice
19:26.34sbi wants :|
19:49.41Stanzillahttp://us.battle.net/heroes/en/forum/topic/13567677046#1 :(
19:56.07sbthere is no icon on that taskbar
20:02.03FiskerPoor Stanzilla
20:02.11FiskerI got my Chromecast updated
20:04.11StanzillaFisker: whats the version number now
20:05.09FiskerThe same as the latest
20:05.22FiskerIsn't a new build
20:05.44FiskerMine just hadn't been online for a few months
20:10.24sbthey should introduce another vulnerability :|
20:10.26sbwtb custom firmware
20:11.45GnarfozStanzilla: I don't think I've ever seen that problem
20:12.16FiskerAndroid TV sb
20:12.44FiskerI've seen it but alt tab usually fixes it
20:12.49Gnarfozmaybe it's because I don't the "always combine" mode for the task bar?
20:12.54Gnarfoz*use the
20:13.19FiskerMaybe
20:15.20sbFisker: so, want to hack my samsung to run android? :|
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20:39.50Gnarfozwtb all old Nightwish records re-recorded with Floor :P
20:49.06sbwtf is wrong with my youtube
21:04.58Stanzillayay beta char wipe
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21:48.30Caleb|I'd like that too Gnarfoz !
21:48.43sbStanzilla: wha?
21:48.59sbseriously?
21:49.17sbugh
21:49.26sbbetter fix char copy for EU till then
21:55.35sbmaexxna... *hate*
21:55.58sbGnarfoz: and giev new album
21:56.06Gnarfoz2015
21:56.09Gnarfoz:|
21:56.12Gnarfoz:]
21:56.25Gnarfozalso wtb less confusing google music metadata
21:56.51sbalso tour 2015
21:57.32sbwhat do you mean?
22:00.58Gnarfoztour 2015? :o
22:02.18GnarfozI mean that a lot of stuff has wrong genres, wrong release years, duplicates (triplicates & more even) of releases from different territories with no content differences, some stuff can only be reached by search because even though it obviously has title+album+artist it's not attached to the main artist
22:02.30Gnarfoz(and since they share the same name, good luck finding the "detached" ones)
22:04.11Gnarfozand finally, although that's not a metadata thing: the random missing track/album (you have stuff from ALL labels a band was signed with, but still stuff is missing? WHY? even though you can BUY it? xD)
22:04.23Gnarfozsee current Sonata Arctica album
22:05.03sbyes, giev sonata arctica
22:05.05GnarfozI guess it's what you get when trying to squeeze products of an antiquated business model into a new one
22:05.28sbgenre is hard - i can tell from my own mp3 collection :D
22:05.56FiskerRights issue Gnarfoz
22:06.19GnarfozFisker: how can it be a rights issue if they already sell all of it and have most of it in the streaming lineup, too?
22:06.43Gnarfozthe last issue I listed is just between Google Music and All Access
22:06.53FiskerBecause instead of giving money to the people who made it let's screw them over
22:07.03Gnarfoz?
22:07.17FiskerSelling and streaming isn't the same
22:07.30Gnarfozyou make it sound as if the regular distribution ways get the artists tons of money.
22:07.45Gnarfozwhich is laughable when you look at GEMA and their counterparts in other countries
22:08.12FiskerNot at all, I'm pointing out the same applies digitally now even though it makes less sense than ever
22:08.26Gnarfozit's not worse than before, is it.
22:08.38Gnarfozthey still get paid, and it's still a pittance, for most of them
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22:08.59FiskerI didn't say it was worse
22:09.07Gnarfozno, you said it's a right's issue
22:09.13FiskerYep
22:09.16Gnarfozhow is it one if it's the same as before?
22:10.08FiskerBecause the right holders of album x are not necessarily the same as those of album y
22:10.22GnarfozI already said that they have all of them in their repertoire
22:11.14FiskerAnd I said being given the right to sell and the right to stream isn't the same thing
22:11.33Gnarfozit's the first time you said that, just now :P
22:11.46Gnarfozyou were talking about "giving money" first
22:11.55Gnarfozbut even so, you should be wrong
22:12.06Gnarfozsince Google doesn't pay Nightwish's or Sonata Arctica's labels
22:12.12Gnarfozthey pay GEMA (in Germany)
22:12.16FiskerI said it 5 minutes ago
22:13.15Gnarfozyou just said "it's not the same" after saying "rights issue" and "giving money to x instead of y" - none of which include "x might not have given the right to stream, while y has"
22:13.19Gnarfozbut sure
22:14.09Gnarfozstill, why is album current-1 available for streaming but current isn't? (same label)
22:14.27GnarfozI can't accept "because the label guys are idiots"
22:14.40FiskerWell then you're going to be disappointed
22:14.46Gnarfozit even was available at first then vanished later
22:15.18Gnarfozanyway, doesn't matter in Germany
22:15.40FiskerWhy not?
22:16.07Gnarfozbecause GEMA is responsible for all forms of "reproduction" (meaning: playback)
22:16.32znfjust pirate it
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22:16.54FiskerGema is just another middle man
22:17.13znfyeah, just pirate it
22:19.30Torhalpirates Gnarfoz and gives copies to Fisker.
22:19.40FiskerNo thanks
22:19.48GnarfozArrr you a pirate, Torhal
22:19.51Stanzillapenis
22:19.54TorhalYarrr.
22:20.02TorhalPen-fifteen, Stanzilla.
22:20.26Stanzillaheheee
22:22.24FiskerHehe Stanzilla
22:24.06Stanzillaare we having a michael jackson party
22:25.23Gnarfozbtw Fisker
22:26.05Gnarfozwhen the Sony Music CEO says that GEMA is the problem holding back digital music in Germany, I'm inclined to believe that assessment ;D
22:26.29Stanzillagema is the root of all evil
22:26.32Stanzillagreedy little fucks
22:26.47FiskerThat's true
22:27.10Gnarfozhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gesellschaft_f%C3%BCr_musikalische_Auff%C3%BChrungs-_und_mechanische_Vervielf%C3%A4ltigungsrechte#cite_ref-57 (+scroll up 1 bullet point... I don't think there's a better way to link there)
22:27.19Gnarfoz(omg full name as article title)
22:27.43FiskerCopyright in general is ruining it
22:28.15Gnarfozit's like... dude. you're the CEO of one of the biggest players. and you're saying "can't do anything, GEMA is the devil"? :|
22:28.23Gnarfozthat's a horrible realisation
22:30.35Stanzillahttp://cdn2.vox-cdn.com/assets/4808706/BtVnM_xCAAAydY8.jpg #notsureiflike
22:32.16GnarfozI had forgotten, but there's actually not one, but two blanket laws for GEMA: one stipulates that if you play music publicly, then it's always assumed it's music for which GEMA is responsible (i.e. they want €€€, this is the more well-known one); the other says that if you haven't transferred the exercise of your author's rights to a collecting society (of which there's only one: GEMA), then GEMA is entitled to exercise the rights.
22:33.33Gnarfozactually, there's a second collecting society now, but it's really, really tiny. and more of a "this can't stand!" kind of project by probably 3 guys (I should look into how well they're faring)
22:34.05Stanzillahey amarande, is it you?
22:36.06Gnarfoz2 lines since the last person spoke: nope.
22:36.14Stanzilla:D
22:36.22Stanzillajk anyway
22:36.32Gnarfozher last name is Rowling
22:37.11StanzillaI want a new harry potter book
22:37.22Gnarfozwasn't there one recently
22:37.36Gnarfozalso, it's https://www.c3s.cc/en/ apparently that I was thinking of
22:37.42Stanzillaonly some small episode
22:38.29GnarfozI don't know how long it was, just read about it
22:38.48sbclass challenges are fun :o
22:38.58GnarfozCHALLENGE BEGINS!
22:39.34Gnarfoznow, back to trying to find this supposed "heavy" version of Sleepwalker
22:39.52Gnarfozso far, I can't hear a difference from the one I know ;o
22:44.38EthanCentauraiI'm starting to think my tradeskillinfo rewrite project is too difficult for me
22:44.43EthanCentauraior am I simply retarded?
22:48.04Stanzillaboth maybe?
22:49.24StanzillaI installed it btw
22:49.41znfHmmm. This is something that I can't seem to be able to find for Wordpress. I need a plugin or something that automatically generates credentials for another 3rd party system (just a user and password, but that has to be unique to the wordpress user);
22:49.49znfI'm not even sure what to search for :-S
22:50.19EthanCentauraiall I wanted to do was re-index the recipes database by spellID instead of craftedItemID, but converting the code that uses it has proven far harder than I thought :/
22:52.06Gnarfozznf: why random
22:52.20znfGnarfoz, *shrug* I guess I don't need random
22:52.22Gnarfozare you signing people up for some service without their interaction
22:53.15znfI want them to sign up on wordpress (with a social-thingie like facebook or twitter or whatever); then they can request demo for a service we provide
22:53.41znfBut that demo is one-time thingie, like
22:53.47znfNot sure if I'm explaining properly
22:55.03znfI can probably make it myself, but I would rather not re-invent the wheel
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22:56.57Gnarfozthe simple solution would seem to be to use external auth on the second service as well.
22:57.41znfUnfortunately that doesn't support it
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23:08.17Gnarfozneat http://i.imgur.com/SmYdZsJ.jpg :D
23:09.59Gnarfozwow they must be desparate. https://twitter.com/CM_Lore/status/492417961466949633 pushed Tanaan to a content patch oO
23:11.57EthanCentauraiOh dear.
23:23.42nebula169maybe it was always planned as such! atleast the zone will get some love eventually unlike crystalsong forrest
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23:26.51Stanzillayo nebula169
23:27.15nebula169yo Stanzilla
23:27.19StanzillaI just broke your bigbrother thingy
23:27.24nebula169oh yea?
23:27.53Stanzillawhen you are in a group and then get invited to flex
23:28.01Stanzillait tries to send to raid channel
23:28.23Stanzillawhich is not there, now it spams "not in a raid group2 all the time
23:28.38nebula169ahso
23:30.12Gnarfozomg I just hit "close tabs to the right" on the tab 2nd from left
23:30.28Ressycontrol shift T?
23:30.40Gnarfozapparently, there's a limit to what it remembers.
23:32.08nebula169yea, i never implemented instance_chat because i didn't want to let it spam to lfr
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23:36.20Stanzillanebula169: might wanna disable the chat sending then
23:36.23Stanzillabecause spam is bad :E
23:36.40nebula169eh?
23:36.53StanzillaI mean it still tries to send chat messages
23:36.59Stanzillathat's why it causes that error msg, no?
23:37.14nebula169well yea, i just need to fix it for flex
23:37.18Stanzillaok
23:37.36Stanzillacan I leave the group or want me test it?
23:37.50nebula169it should be a simple fix :p
23:38.29StanzillaI just saw that I have default output set to "self"
23:38.31Stanzillaweird
23:39.07nebula169you use separate outputs?
23:39.48Stanzillanope
23:43.06nebula169weird
23:43.32znfoutputs Stanzilla
23:43.38znfoutputs Stanzilla to /dev/null
23:44.10StanzillaI don't think I have any other addon that tries to print to chat though

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