IRC log for #wowace on 20140717

00:06.30nebula169znf: sata hot swap is a vendor specific thing
00:06.45znfI see
00:10.06znfHmmm.
00:10.11znfI should buy a Qi charger for my car
00:30.02znfSo.
00:30.23znfThis far this is the 3rd laptop that I have on my hands that is supposed to be for Windows 8
00:30.41znfSo far on neither of these I could boot a Windows install from a USB stick
00:30.46znfwith Legacy mode disabled
00:31.19znfWhat am I missing?
00:31.35NeffiBoot a Windows 8 or Windows 7 image from USB?
00:32.02znfNeffi, Windows 8
00:32.08znf8.1 actually
00:32.32znfif I switch to legacy, it works
00:32.50znfbut I'm curious as to why "normal" UEFI mode doesn't work
00:32.54NeffiI heard that it's fixed with Windows 8 (not positive) but a known problem with Windows 7 is the lack of a proper EFI bootloader, at the proper location, on the install medium
00:32.59Neffiwhich is fixed with these instructions http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=209045
00:33.12znfOh
00:33.15znfI can just copy the contents?
00:33.19NeffiFrom what I hear, this shouldn't be necessary with Windows 8, but you might want to google around and confirm
00:33.30znfI used the Windows DVD/USB tool
00:33.31znf:-/
00:33.42znfto create the install media
00:33.47NeffiFor Win7 I use Universal USB Installer, then do these instructions, to get a fully working, bootable, install image that works for UEFI and BIOS
00:34.06znfmkay, I shall try making another stick with this
00:35.30NeffiI'm not sure if you need a copy of the bootmgfw.efi image from the Win8 install. There should be one in the archive on the install CD
00:35.44NeffiOpen sources.wim (iirc) with 7zip and look in Windows\boot
00:38.44znfDoesn't matter. I do Win8 anyway.
00:40.34znfGoing to try copying it
00:53.01pompyhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iy_wByPCMhc that is pretty cool
01:05.27znfNeffi, yup
01:05.28znfthat worked
01:06.01TorhalStanzilla!
01:06.28Neffiznf: good. now go bug Microsoft to stop releasing install images without a proper EFI bootloader... considering they have a proper EFI bootloader *in the wrong place*
01:06.48znfNeffi, uhm, I am installing Win8.
01:06.55znfSo don't really care about proper EFI bootloader :D
01:07.03znfI just didn't know that you could simply copy the contents
01:07.19znfI kept using the Windows USB/DVD tool
01:07.21znfeven for Win8
01:07.21NeffiThe install image needs an EFI bootloader so the install kernel can boot EFI-aware and address the EFI
01:07.32znfwell, I didn't mess with it in any way
01:07.39znfI just formatted fat32, copied the files, done
01:07.42NeffiInstalling an EFI-aware OS without an EFI-aware install disc is not something I'd recommend you try
01:08.24Neffiif you want a rundown of what a nightmare it is, just hit up the Gentoo forums and ask how to install Gentoo on an EFI system. it's a pita
01:20.02znfI'm not sure why you keep saying that... How much more "aware" should Win8 be?
01:20.06znfit booted, it installed
01:21.12znfWhat am I missing?
01:21.27znfand that post clearly says
01:21.29znf"Windows 8 users: This stuff is now unnecessary. Just copy the entire contents to a FAT32 USB drive and it should boot correctly in native EFI mode.
01:21.29znf"
01:21.46NeffiOh, so they did fix it
01:22.22NeffiWith Win7, because the install CD doesnt have a valid EFI bootloader, you cannot install it on an EFI (without legacy mode) if doing so from a USB stick
01:23.19znfBlaaaargh!
01:23.33znfthe the f* can't you set the same username and pc name? :-/
01:23.35znfreinstalls
01:23.52Neffishouldn't need to reinstall
01:24.03Neffirun sysrep /oobe (I think that's it) and reboot
01:24.10znfscrew it
01:24.14znftakes like 5 minutes to reinstall
01:24.17Neffimight need /generalize too?
01:24.38znfbooting from an USB3.0 stick and installing on a SSD is insanely fast
01:24.47Neffiis gelatinous
01:24.56NeffiI have neither of those things
01:27.53znfso, once I finished this tutorial thingie
01:27.56znfin hotS
01:27.58znfI can't do shit?
01:31.03pompyhmm 109mb borderlands 2 pc update .. hm Parnic ;) (yar too lazy to look for the news)
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01:38.24znfthat reminds me
01:38.33znfWindows 7 should get a damn new service pack
01:52.52SinaloitSP --2
01:58.15znf"SecureBoot isn't configured correctly"
01:58.18znfSinaloit, ?
01:58.35Sinaloitwas a joke, sorry :)
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03:35.26znfI like how, when you boot uefi thingies, you don't get the Windows 8 logo
03:35.31znfbut the manufacturer's logo
03:35.52quiescenso.o
03:59.34Torhalboots znf.
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05:28.04Sintacksso I bought the 1TB 840 evo after asking someone else. now i have to wait 'til it gets here to actually put the computer together when it gets here tomorrow, or put it together and then migrate from the 500GB to the 1TB
05:29.11quiescenspick the lazier option
05:44.07nebula169easy to migrate samsung drives, the util for it is nice and if you bought the retail box it'll come with a sata->usb adapter
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06:15.49Sintacksnebula169, i used the software to migrate from my 120GB non-samsung drive to the 840 Evo SATA II > SATA II. was pretty quick and easy.
06:22.48FiskerOld znf
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06:40.45quiescenslot of ping timeout o.o
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08:47.53quiescensnerf *foz
08:50.43Megalonnerfoz
08:52.46Workfozquiescens is a nerf employee
08:53.41quiescenso.o
08:53.47quiescensstabs *foz with a nerf bat
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09:42.24Timmehso much nerf
09:45.36Megalonbats quiescens in the *foz
09:46.20quiescenso.o
09:46.31bluspacecowfoz?
09:46.34bluspacecowwassat
09:46.40quiescenso/ blu
09:46.50bluspacecowoh hai
09:55.20Workfozit is I, Anyfoz, Everyfoz
09:55.35Workfozvery foz, much name
10:00.14quiescensstabs *foz with a nerf bat
10:03.56bluspacecow@workfoz such jumping the shark
10:04.15Workfozdoesn't that mean doing something prematurely
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10:14.52bluspacecow:(
10:15.04bluspacecowsad 10the doctor in the rain gif
10:15.07bluspacecow:(
10:54.46quiescenspats blu
10:58.38bluspacecow*blinks*
10:58.49bluspacecowyou can see how many forum posts you make mews ?
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10:59.04bluspacecowhttp://us.battle.net/wow/en/search?f=post&sort=time&s=time&dir=d&q=Bluspacecow%40Muradin&a=Bluspacecow%40Muradin&page=2
10:59.09bluspacecow13 K :P
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11:58.09Workfozspammer, bluspacecow
11:58.35bluspacecowoooo
11:58.41bluspacecowfoz is in workfoz not fonzie
11:58.43bluspacecownow i get it
11:59.35Workfozrofl
11:59.46Workfozthere is no 'foz' in 'fonzie' btw
12:00.46bluspacecowecho fonzie | grep foz = nothing!
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12:34.05winkwe'll call you grepfoz instead of *foz from now on
12:48.12pompy1http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2132065-mesut-ozil-used-his-world-cup-money-to-pay-for-23-surgeries-for-brazilian-kids
12:49.32znfold
12:53.00quiescensbut *foz works so well
12:54.39winkpompy1: that's cool, but it's like less then 5% of what he earns per year
12:54.50winkand that's a very cautious estimation
12:55.25winkthen again I am not donating multiple k EUR per year, so I should shut up :P
12:57.29bluspacecowpants!
12:57.35bluspacecowi has them!
12:57.39bluspacecowclean ones~!
13:02.08pompy1http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/corrects-microsoft-to-cut-up-to-18000-jobs-over-next-year/2014/07/17/0d15cb8c-0db0-11e4-9c90-0c289b74e142_story.html?tid=recommended_strip_3
13:07.54winklol
13:08.03winknow that was an important correction
13:08.09wink500 of those 18000 may stay
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13:12.50pompy1http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-noriega-activision-lawsuit-20140715-story.html wow lol
14:00.59pompy1"We are aware that some Xbox 360 users are experiencing an issue that  causes them to be stuck in a compatibility pack download loop. " doh.
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14:02.22pompy1Parnic: so it's either hope they drop in game bc they are "extremely rare" or just wait for the specific date for that character's to be available as a shift code?
14:08.54quiescenso.o
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14:36.41Funkeh`people buy consoles? #pcmasterrace
14:37.29pompy1lol
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15:29.31Workfozprecisely
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16:07.00znfStanzilla, they fucked up something with this chrome
16:07.08znf37.0.2062
16:07.14Stanzillawhy
16:07.37znfI can't log on a google apps account
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16:51.35StanzillaThe Chrome team is excited to announce the promotion of Chrome 37 to the beta channel
16:52.01quiescensis that good or bad?
16:52.14Stanzilladepends on if you use beta or not
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17:09.49Torhaltags Stanzilla as GermanDude-0.0.1-prerelease.
17:10.47StanzillaTorhal: done with the git stuff?
17:11.11TorhalGit and Mercurial. Just need to tie everything in and then TESTING.
17:11.27Stanzillanais
17:11.32Stanzillaonly the basic stuff so far, or?
17:11.36Stanzillano fancy repo keywords etc
17:11.36Megalontags Torhal as NoOoneKnowsWhyHeIsHereDure-0.0.4c-prealphaearlyaccess
17:11.52TorhalDURE?
17:11.55TorhalDafuq?
17:12.00quiescenstesting is overrated, it'll be fine
17:12.01TorhalMegalons Megalon.
17:12.07quiescenswe believe in you torhal
17:12.09MegalonU WUT M8???
17:12.14Megaloni myselfed
17:12.35Megalonthat's like awesome^2
17:12.47bluspacecowMegalons Torhal Megloning Meglaon
17:12.50bluspacecowMegalon-ception
17:13.23Torhalships bluspacecow to Australia.
17:17.47quiescensgo to sleep
17:25.03bluspacecow*sleeps on quiescens*
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18:29.36RessyTorhal, bluspacecow is in New Zealand already, so its not a far ship.
18:47.28Ackiss/New Zealand/Australia/
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19:00.59Megalonthat's even lass far by ship, from australia to australia
19:01.11Megaloncould even do without a ship
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19:11.24winkship ship hooray
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20:30.08Stanzillahi
20:42.41Fiskerhi Stanzilla
20:42.49Stanzillahi
20:42.51Fiskermy water is so far away
20:43.14FiskerActually have to like get up and stuff
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21:15.47SinaloitJust need a longer straw
21:19.12Stanzillaor longer arms
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21:24.16Sintackshits Fisker with Stanzilla's arms
21:25.33Fiskerhey Sintacks
21:25.36FiskerWhat is your problem?
21:26.03Sintacksu being mad is my problem
21:26.06Sintacksy u always mad
21:28.10Sinaloithttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HUmZrtiXDik
21:51.47IndustrialHi. I'm trying to set up an addon using Ace3.0, but I'm getting this error:  https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7a126bca4205240904c4
21:51.58IndustrialCode: https://github.com/Industrial/idTweaks/blob/master/core.lua
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21:55.50SinaloitNot really an Ace3 person but delete line 2. AceConfig isn't embedded I think.  That's what the error is saying
21:56.35Industrialright
21:56.40SinaloitNot sure you embed acedb either. Both are setup differently
21:57.12IndustrialRight I see. reading the guide aswell now
22:01.02FiskerI'm never mad Sintacks
22:01.12FiskerActually maybe a little today
22:29.38IndustrialSo I have these options: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/1b400f80c468ed3069fc#file-core-lua-L49
22:29.58IndustrialI've read http://www.wowace.com/addons/ace3/pages/api/ace-config-dialog-3-0/ but I'm not sure how to get options in the blizzard options screen.
22:30.18IndustrialFor example, I'd eventually like to have a slider for the camera max distance CVAR
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23:03.34nebula169Industrial: LibStub('AceConfigDialog-3.0'):AddToBlizOptions('idTweaks') after :RegisterOptionsTable
23:10.44Stanzillakyle :3
23:12.04znfI fuckin' hate Helvetica
23:12.31nebula169helvetica is fine, helvetica neue is annoying
23:12.49znfNo, Helvetica is not fine. It's a piece of shit garbage crap of font without modern glyphs support
23:13.19znfAnd every fuckin' retard out there uses it for body text
23:13.21znflike Facebook
23:13.46znfIt has no support for chars like ășț
23:14.04znfthe I and l are so freakin' similar
23:14.12znfthe @ looks horrible
23:14.40znflike, look how the Ș in this pic looks like: http://i.imgur.com/Z0YBBSG.png
23:14.53znfbecause it has no support for it and the browsers replaces it... :-/
23:15.33Industrialnebula169: very nice, thx
23:16.54znfStanzilla, here's your Android flagship killer! http://e.dx.com/collection/201407/doogee/doogee/index.html?utm_source=dx&utm_medium=homerotate&utm_campaign=20140715dg310presale2
23:17.30Industrialnebula169: https://gist.github.com/Industrial/6207684ea95b27ccbce4#file-core-lua-L13
23:17.45IndustrialShould I create an entry for each module I've made here, or can I do it in the module?
23:20.17nebula169typically for modular stuff you would make a registry function in your main addon that the modules call then build the options table off that or have the modules implement a method that you call iterating through the modules
23:20.42nebula169or if the modules aren't going to change you could just put everything in the main options table :p
23:21.50Industrialright
23:21.52Industrialty
23:21.59nebula169np
23:24.35nebula169Industrial: simple to do it in each module if you want a seperate panel for each, :RegisterOptionsTable('idTweaks-module', options) then :AddToBlizOptions('idTweaks',"Module Name", 'idTweaks-module')
23:25.05nebula169erm reverse first and third params in AddToBlizOptions
23:26.45Stanzillamy cat just punched me
23:27.07nebula169i'm sure you deserved it
23:27.27Stanzillayeah I was petting him
23:27.29Stanzillatotally shouldnt
23:27.48nebula169bad touch!
23:29.43Industrialnebula169: great! exactly what I was looking for :D
23:34.02Stanzillanebula169 is always what I have been looking for
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23:41.58znfStanzilla, drink up https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t1.0-9/q85/s720x720/10385577_755707434451801_5252897294477363160_n.jpg
23:42.33StanzillaI have water
23:43.02znfswitch to wine...
23:43.47StanzillaI have water
23:49.28SinaloitStanzilla is the reverse Jesus... You heard it here first
23:49.46nebula169he's here to... steal my soul?
23:50.23SinaloitHe turns wine into water so ... Maybe?
23:55.46IndustrialAlmost done with my first option (although it doesnt make much sense since all it does is set a cvar which has its own saving mechanism right?) https://gist.github.com/Industrial/53e182c661e0466a4de5#file-core-lua-L35-L85
23:56.43IndustrialI'm wondering now that MaxCameraDistance is a module, how to get it's `defaultValue` member to become a SavedVariable of the main addon
23:57.54znfStanzilla, does the game crash for you, too?
23:57.59znfor, rather, it freezes
23:58.06Stanzillawhich game
23:58.39nebula169Industrial: it can create a namespace (idTweaks.db:RegisterNamespace) or simply use the parent addon's db through idTweaks.db.profile
23:59.17znfStanzilla, WiD
23:59.18znfWoD
23:59.27Stanzillasevers are offline atm
23:59.28Stanzillaso nope
23:59.41Industrialnebula169: okay
23:59.48nebula169using a namespace is like creating it's own db tied to the main savedvar

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