IRC log for #wowace on 20140623

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02:42.07Repofix ticket 299: window movement on reload
02:42.07Repowindow position was not being correctly saved when the last window operation was a resize or a rescale
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06:19.53sbMorning
06:41.11quiescenso/
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09:28.54quiescenswhy do games still make inventory management take so much effort
09:29.29sbwhere?
09:30.16quiescensi can kind of understand limits on how much you can bring with you, but for item storage and stuff, most games you can probably store a thousand items or more in 1mb, so why do they limit you to like 100
09:30.23quiescensor some other arbitrary small number
09:31.24sbuhm - are you sure its not the first point?
09:31.39sbso just limiting your possibilities - you have to decide what to keep/throw away
09:32.11quiescensbut why is that considered a good thing?
09:32.13quiescenso.o
09:36.18sbits not good, its game limitations
09:37.01quiescensso your answer is, the storage limits exist because they exist
09:37.04quiescenso.o
09:37.13sbyou cant have 5 rocket launchers + 10 sniper rifles
09:37.23sbyou have to decide if you want to have the rocket launcher or the sniper
09:37.51quiescensi totally said, i understand not being able to *carry* everything
09:38.24quiescensi'm asking why things like long term storage, "stash"/"bank"/etc are usually so limited too
09:38.26sbwhats the differnce if you can just go back + get another loadout
09:43.31quiescensmeh
09:45.44sbwhat game are you talking about anyways? :D
09:46.05quiescensshrug
09:46.06quiescensvarious
09:46.07quiescenslol
09:51.15sbwhere is this *foz thingy!?
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10:11.58sbalso, what is this red/green/whatever team at steam? how do you join teams and where do you get all those cards? (buying all games or something else?)
10:12.52quiescensshrug
10:12.58quiescensyou get put onto a colour
10:13.11quiescensand then you try to out colour the other colours
10:13.19quiescenssomething like that
10:17.39sbso you just get assigned somehow
10:19.50quiescensmy colour is better than your colour
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11:45.54Stanzillahttp://whatifgaming.com/the-division-developer-insider-we-already-downgraded-a-few-things
11:45.59Stanzillasupermad
11:48.19Kalrothrude
11:50.31sbStanzilla: TLDR?!?
11:53.00sbah, downgrading graphics for release version?
11:54.07sbthats what also happened to watch dogs, right? co worker told something about different graphics E3 2013 vs. release
11:55.17Kalrothyup, basically the E3 game engine preview was running on a PC with four overclocked GTX Titan Black cards
11:56.02Kalrothso now they'll have to perform some minor changes in order to get the game running on consoles with an underclocked and integrated 7850 GPU
12:11.05quiescenswhich is to be expected of course
12:11.39quiescensgraphics being different from one to the other is age old
12:12.18quiescensthe controversy with watch dogs was mostly just that, they disabled effects completely even though the code was still there and working, rather than being an option
12:13.01quiescensand that people believed, rightly or wrongly, that they did it so that people couldn't make the pc one better than the console one or something
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16:25.45Parnicpompy1: blue team sucks pretty bad.
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17:06.39pompy1Parnic: look at it right now ;)
17:06.57pompy1Parnic, Kaelten, Arrowmaster: this is our day! haha go blue!
17:15.30Funkeh``pretty sure they have some boosting mechanism for teams that havent won yet
17:18.41nevcairieldid that thing just reset
17:18.47nevcairielwhich day does it use o.o
17:42.35quiescenso.o
17:51.42Stanzillanew agent
17:58.33quiescensspais
17:58.39quiescensgo to sleep
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18:24.55chielis there a way to check which raid groups have people in them?
18:29.11nevcairielafaik you need to run through all the people and check
18:29.24chielhmm ok
18:29.30nevcairielbut in a UF context this is usually handled by the raid headers
18:30.08chielyea, i am spawnijg raid headers, but ideally i'd like to hide groups that have no people in them
18:30.33nevcairielwhat if i move someone in there in the middle of the fight?
18:30.37nevcairielthen you're like, screwed!
18:30.47chieland then, ideally, resize the ones that do... but i think there's combat restrictions there
18:33.26chielah well, guess i can optimise later, raid time soon!
19:08.07Reponpcscan: 03SLOKnightfall 07master * 5.4.8.2-8-gd2e9b1a ConfigSearch.lua: [+1 commit] -Fix for tab tooltip enable/disable state not matching actual state
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19:28.56pompy1nevcairiel: everyday at 10am pdt
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19:45.04Parnicpompy1: this thing is so rigged
19:45.38nevcairielof course it is
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20:41.47Stanzillaso google domains
20:41.50Stanzillawhat do you guys think
20:42.06Stanzillahttps://plus.google.com/+GoogleBusiness/posts/Dkhw41XJigw
20:43.45Fiskerold
20:48.32StanzillaI was asking for opinions
20:48.56nevcairieli already have domains
20:51.03FiskerI know Stanzilla
20:52.09nevcairielspeaking of domains, the .com variant of one i already have is expiring soon, should pay attention and snatch it
21:01.36znfFisker, yeah, that steam thingie is definately rigged!
21:14.51pompy1Parnic: sure is
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21:34.50znfwe can haz alpha? :(
21:34.51znfno alpha?
21:48.41nevcairielthey'll either open it soon or at least post a notice soon, i expect the second
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22:46.54nevcairielznf no today for yoo
22:48.01Gnarfoznevcairiel: where are you at at the moment?
22:53.03Stanzillaznf: tuesday
23:08.42nevcairielGnarfoz: in a restaurant just finished my dinner
23:08.56Gnarfoznice
23:09.00GnarfozI meant which area, though ^^
23:10.16nevcairielAround Chicago
23:19.06Gnarfozmhhh
23:19.16Gnarfozshouldn't my CPU be able to turbo boost to 3.8 GHz
23:19.23Gnarfozit's always sitting at 3.5
23:19.31Gnarfozguess I have too much other crap running?
23:20.09nevcairielTell your bios to ignore per core shit
23:20.31GnarfozI'm not quite sure what it's set to, tbh
23:20.53GnarfozIIRC there's "By All Cores Auto", "By All Cores OS" and fully manual
23:21.17Gnarfozthanks Asus for Taiwanenglish descriptions that make no sense
23:21.42nevcairielJust set all cores to the same turbo
23:23.34Gnarfozmh?
23:23.44GnarfozI'm not sure that's a possible choice
23:24.23Gnarfozand IIRC the summary screen actually shows the frequency as 3400 - 3800
23:24.27Gnarfozwhich would appear correct
23:27.44Gnarfozguess I'll reboot again
23:28.33nevcairielThe default only turbos up properly if some cores are parked
23:28.52nevcairielAnd all cores same turbo is a choice. No idea how its names
23:29.21Stanzillabaumkopf holzfaust
23:30.22nevcairielAll cores auto I guess?
23:31.32nevcairielUsually you would get an option for all cores and then a field for the multiplier
23:31.44nevcairiel..which also includes an auto setting I supppse
23:33.12Gnarfozthat sounds like "always run those cores at that multiplier"
23:33.15Gnarfozi.e. permanent OC
23:33.58GnarfozI actually turned core parking back on (didn't even remember I turned it off, must have been ages ago) :D
23:36.14Gnarfoznot that it should matter, they don't have to be parked for turbo to be used
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23:40.03Stanzillanebula169: didn't we have alliance/horde and arena spec icon modules in pb?
23:42.39Gnarfozcpu 0+1, 2+3, 4+5, 6+7 each make up a core on an i7, right
23:44.11pompy1Stanzilla, Gnarfoz, nevcairiel, sb: http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/264279461.html?_osource=SocialFlowFB_NYBrand
23:44.18pompy1heh
23:44.23Gnarfozso setting CPU affinity manually to disallow 1,3,5,7 could possibly improve "y u barely multithread" cpu bound programs
23:44.45Gnarfozpompy1: we demand access to your time machine
23:45.19nebula169don't think i have the arena module in
23:46.12pompy1what Gnarfoz
23:46.32Gnarfozthat picture came across my Twitter feed like 3 days ago
23:46.41pompy1nods
23:47.00GnarfozI'm not sure why but stuff seems to reach your part of the internet quite late :D
23:51.35nevcairielWindows should automatically favor real cores BTW
23:52.59nevcairielAnd no, that setting only overrides turbo, if you don't disable the energy saving settings (ie. Down clock to 1600mhz) its hardly permanent
23:53.28Gnarfozthe UEFI setting for cores?
23:53.36nevcairielYea
23:53.41Gnarfozinteresting, as soon as WS doesn't have focus anymore, FPS halves :D
23:54.03nevcairielBackground fps limiter like wow?
23:57.07Gnarfozdon't think so
23:59.45Gnarfozwhat does "this process is in a job" mean oO
23:59.50Gnarfozsome of my processes are in jobs
23:59.51Gnarfoz;D

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