| 00:04.42 | Arrowmaster | znf: we had 3 drop on our first 4 kills back when it was the top tier raid |
| 00:04.48 | znf | heh |
| 00:04.53 | Arrowmaster | so many people bitching on our server |
| 00:05.04 | Arrowmaster | the 3rd went to a warrior too |
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| 00:09.27 | nevcairiel | we had one side drop 3 times before the first pair was completed |
| 00:09.47 | nevcairiel | that was a long wait for the poor rogue who got the first half |
| 01:04.45 | Megalon | happy father's day, lord tywin! |
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| 01:14.17 | znf | dances with Stanzilla |
| 01:19.35 | znf | hmm, let's try this hadouken thingie |
| 01:19.37 | znf | to download a torrent |
| 01:21.56 | znf | meh, too slow |
| 01:22.07 | znf | barely 3.8MB/sec, while uTorrent does 9MB/sec on the same torrent :-| |
| 01:22.12 | quiescens | go to sleep |
| 01:22.28 | Megalon | then look up why |
| 01:22.46 | nevcairiel | you do realize that it takes maybe a minute or so until all connections are built up again? :p |
| 01:23.06 | Megalon | why don't you go and suck off your logic and arguments |
| 01:23.50 | nevcairiel | their website sucks btw, they dont have any screenshots of the web interface or even a list of torrent features it properly supports |
| 01:25.01 | nevcairiel | in any case i'm plenty happy with the transmission web interface running on my server at home |
| 01:25.56 | nevcairiel | that client probably isnt even on the allow list of many private trackers =P |
| 01:28.32 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/a2oOqmC.png |
| 01:28.47 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/FDbKQNI.png |
| 01:29.05 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/c9XspHk.png |
| 01:30.02 | znf | oh, stupid client |
| 01:30.05 | znf | it runs by default on 6881 |
| 01:30.06 | znf | wtf |
| 01:30.32 | znf | there we go, more megabytes |
| 01:30.39 | nevcairiel | that is the default torrent port |
| 01:30.44 | znf | yeah, I know |
| 01:30.50 | Megalon | as always it was a layer 8 problem |
| 01:30.51 | znf | which is blocked by most ISPs in the world |
| 01:30.53 | Megalon | who would have thought |
| 01:31.01 | znf | Megalon, your mom. |
| 01:31.03 | Gnarfoz | rofl |
| 01:31.12 | Gnarfoz | certainly not blocked by most ISPs in the world |
| 01:31.16 | nevcairiel | indeed |
| 01:31.23 | znf | or throttled to hell... |
| 01:31.25 | Megalon | 6881 is also a port blizzard uses |
| 01:31.30 | nevcairiel | even WoWs downloader runs on 6881 |
| 01:31.34 | znf | it shouldn't ^^ |
| 01:31.38 | Megalon | so i guess people would be quite upset if it was blocked :P |
| 01:31.42 | Gnarfoz | it should, because you're wrong |
| 01:31.44 | nevcairiel | you should get a better ISP :P |
| 01:31.49 | znf | it's not my ISP doing it |
| 01:32.00 | znf | it's other people's ISPs who throttle TO 6881 |
| 01:32.24 | znf | meh, this client doesn't even show peer flags :-| |
| 01:32.37 | znf | no mention of encryption |
| 01:34.39 | Megalon | better go back to something lightweight |
| 01:34.40 | Megalon | and install vuze |
| 01:35.15 | znf | I'll keep using my uTorrent 2.1 |
| 01:36.22 | znf | Can anyone in the WoD alpha see Mekkatorque online? |
| 01:36.32 | nevcairiel | hasnt been the last week |
| 01:36.32 | znf | It's been showing offline for me for the last couple of days |
| 01:38.10 | nevcairiel | its most likely not meant to be up yet |
| 01:38.29 | znf | it WAS up |
| 01:38.47 | znf | I managed to copy my char to it and logged on it |
| 01:39.06 | nevcairiel | hasnt been up for the last week or so |
| 01:39.12 | nevcairiel | been at least down since tuesday |
| 01:40.20 | znf | it's annoying that we can't copy to US :( |
| 01:41.06 | nevcairiel | you also need to be taught that the alpha is for blizzard and not for you :p |
| 01:41.26 | znf | how can I test stuff if I can't copy my char? :P |
| 01:41.36 | nevcairiel | you can test on a premade |
| 01:42.05 | znf | not everything! :D |
| 01:42.09 | nevcairiel | their primary testing focus i the horde leveling experience in the first zone, you dont need a fancy char for that |
| 01:42.43 | znf | Stanzilla, AH! The +4seconds on Mind Blast comes from the Harvest Glyph. |
| 01:43.48 | znf | You should really be able to scale individual UI elements by default :-/ |
| 01:44.34 | quiescens | too complicated |
| 01:45.34 | znf | just add a slider in the UI options? |
| 01:45.46 | nevcairiel | for every single UI element? :P |
| 01:46.29 | znf | frames, action bars, minimap I think are the most obvious? Dunno... |
| 01:46.41 | znf | and maybe a general one for "panels? |
| 01:46.56 | znf | ofc, I can just do frame:SetScale() |
| 01:46.59 | znf | so no biggie |
| 01:47.35 | znf | are these icons new? http://i.imgur.com/Q1EGk9o.png |
| 01:47.39 | znf | don't recall seeing them |
| 01:59.57 | nebula169 | znf: they're from paragons |
| 02:03.24 | znf | Oh. |
| 02:06.40 | miica | has anybody tried 8bit mmo? |
| 02:06.47 | miica | you can kill hipsters in it |
| 02:20.18 | znf | >sandbox |
| 02:20.19 | znf | meh |
| 02:20.36 | nevcairiel | another blocky construction game |
| 02:26.55 | miica | yeah but you can kill hipsters |
| 02:41.06 | sylvanaar | how are you guys all getting into the alpha, cant be random |
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| 03:01.21 | Gnarfoz | it's called Friends & Family for a reason |
| 03:05.41 | Megalon | when does the random-asshole-on-the-internet alpha start? |
| 03:05.47 | Megalon | cause i want in too |
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| 03:12.20 | sylvanaar | yeah, I get it |
| 03:14.09 | znf | Torhal, does the curse client gather data from alpha? |
| 03:14.19 | znf | Megalon, never! |
| 03:14.31 | znf | also, those invites went out already! |
| 03:14.55 | Torhal | znf: o.O |
| 03:15.09 | znf | o.o? |
| 03:15.36 | znf | wowhead, I think, is already parsing cache files, isn't it? |
| 03:21.42 | znf | Anyone has figured out how to assign a follower to a garrison building? |
| 03:21.43 | znf | ^ Gnarfoz |
| 03:48.54 | Random | 19:40] <sylvanaar> how are you guys all getting into the alpha, cant be random |
| 03:48.57 | Random | *whistles* |
| 03:49.00 | Random | afk |
| 03:53.22 | znf | heh |
| 03:53.28 | Megalon | it actually was random |
| 03:53.35 | Megalon | *points* |
| 03:53.47 | Megalon | stannis the mannis |
| 04:04.36 | znf | Oh. |
| 04:04.43 | znf | level cap is 92 |
| 04:04.50 | znf | how did some people get to 100 to test the new talents? :-| |
| 04:06.44 | Ressy | There was a bug for priests.. |
| 04:06.52 | Ressy | at lvl 91 you had access to lvl 100 talents. |
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| 04:10.28 | znf | ow :( |
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| 04:44.52 | nebula169 | thought there was a post about the lv100 talents being available for testing early, so doubt it's a bug |
| 04:46.28 | znf | LOL |
| 04:46.43 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/410AWa9.png --> http://i.imgur.com/5ruiXry.png |
| 04:47.50 | znf | my Shadowform affects that damage, heh |
| 04:58.50 | Stanzilla | hi |
| 04:59.32 | Fisker | hi |
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| 05:24.22 | znf | his Talryn |
| 05:24.23 | znf | Stanzilla, |
| 05:24.50 | quiescens | o.o |
| 05:24.55 | Talryn | Yes? |
| 05:25.22 | quiescens | gives talryn a cookie |
| 05:25.29 | quiescens | don't mind znf, he's probably not making sense |
| 05:27.11 | Talryn | thanks quiescens |
| 05:27.23 | Talryn | Ok, I'll go back to sleeping then |
| 05:35.34 | znf | yes, sorry |
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| 05:48.46 | znf | Stanzilla, did you manage to do the battle in the garrison? |
| 06:03.35 | znf | cool |
| 06:03.40 | znf | you can craft an alchemy trinket |
| 06:03.46 | znf | ilvl 620 |
| 06:12.25 | znf | and my invasion quest just completed itself :-| |
| 06:26.37 | quiescens | grats |
| 06:38.45 | Stanzilla | znf: I'm stuck at the quest where you have to wait for some reinforcements |
| 06:38.45 | znf | ah |
| 06:38.45 | znf | relog |
| 06:38.45 | znf | zone-in/zone out |
| 06:38.45 | znf | until you see the enemy NPCs |
| 06:38.45 | znf | if you see the enemy NPCs, but you don't see your quest giver |
| 06:38.45 | znf | abandon |
| 06:38.45 | znf | and pick it up again |
| 06:38.45 | znf | that worked for me |
| 06:47.00 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/sxyCvEA.jpg |
| 06:47.01 | znf | killed worm |
| 06:47.04 | znf | nothing happened :-| |
| 06:52.00 | Stanzilla | znf: did you just dps him or do the event? |
| 06:52.21 | znf | dps |
| 06:52.26 | znf | wasn't interested in the ogres I gave him |
| 06:52.38 | Stanzilla | retard |
| 06:52.41 | znf | and that takes ages with miss miss miss miss :D |
| 06:52.52 | znf | what? the event doesn't work! :D |
| 06:53.02 | Stanzilla | yes it does |
| 06:53.07 | Stanzilla | just have to kill the ogres at the right spot |
| 06:53.12 | znf | you have to KILL them?! |
| 06:53.13 | znf | :-| |
| 06:53.15 | Stanzilla | event even tells you where |
| 06:53.21 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 06:53.24 | Stanzilla | kill then click on them |
| 06:53.39 | znf | ... |
| 06:53.44 | znf | the event didn't tell me shit |
| 06:53.48 | znf | I entered the area |
| 06:53.51 | znf | said nothing |
| 06:53.55 | znf | just "0/10 ogres fed" |
| 06:54.17 | Stanzilla | well there is a place called "feeding area" |
| 06:54.22 | Stanzilla | and the UI says "ogre fed to x" |
| 06:54.26 | znf | yeah, I know that |
| 06:54.26 | Stanzilla | not that hard man :D |
| 06:54.29 | znf | I took them alive there... |
| 06:54.51 | znf | then when I saw it's not interested, I killed them |
| 06:54.54 | znf | but I couldn't click on them |
| 06:54.56 | znf | just loot them |
| 06:55.03 | Stanzilla | then you killed them in the wrong place |
| 06:55.17 | Stanzilla | tell me when it respawns, I'll show you |
| 06:55.38 | Stanzilla | just need to find the quest again that I just abandoned |
| 06:57.49 | Stanzilla | znf: report a suggestion for that event though |
| 06:57.58 | Stanzilla | make them change it to "dead ogres fed to x" |
| 06:58.31 | znf | busy fishing! |
| 07:01.45 | Stanzilla | znf: do you remember where that quest started? |
| 07:02.51 | znf | just above the questing place you got stuck at |
| 07:03.03 | Stanzilla | name`? |
| 07:03.18 | znf | before daggermaw ravine |
| 07:03.42 | Stanzilla | ok thx |
| 07:03.46 | znf | I know the place |
| 07:03.48 | znf | just no idea how it's called |
| 07:43.03 | znf | "Cool as a cucumber" |
| 07:43.06 | znf | wtf Khadgar? |
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| 08:00.57 | znf | Stanzilla, http://i.imgur.com/oUigjap.jpg |
| 08:00.59 | znf | it ain't spawning! |
| 08:01.35 | znf | it spawned! |
| 08:02.51 | Kalroth | l2p issue! |
| 08:04.49 | znf | Stanzilla, it's not eating! |
| 08:10.00 | Stanzilla | l2p |
| 08:23.07 | znf | Stanzilla, help me with that group quest |
| 08:24.22 | Stanzilla | where do I get it |
| 08:27.34 | quiescens | o.o |
| 08:29.21 | znf | I can't remember |
| 08:29.22 | znf | :-| |
| 08:34.25 | Stanzilla | can you share it? |
| 08:34.45 | Stanzilla | is the new area open now or did you exploit? |
| 08:35.32 | znf | it's open |
| 08:35.35 | znf | also |
| 08:35.38 | znf | I'm not in the new area |
| 08:35.41 | znf | I'm still in frostfire |
| 08:35.59 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 08:36.17 | Stanzilla | the defending the garrison quest is bugged, right? |
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| 08:42.00 | znf | think so |
| 08:43.41 | Stanzilla | I get overrun like fuck |
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| 08:51.17 | Stanzilla | Garrison - Debug - SHutdown Scenario |
| 08:51.18 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 08:57.13 | Stanzilla | I totally did not realise that the right part of the map is still the same zone |
| 08:57.14 | Stanzilla | cool |
| 09:08.44 | znf | mhm |
| 09:08.51 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 09:08.53 | Stanzilla | not getting back in |
| 09:09.07 | Stanzilla | anyway, I said I even refused to raid on it on live |
| 09:09.08 | znf | crashed for you too? |
| 09:09.11 | Stanzilla | and it's even worse in alpha |
| 09:09.12 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 09:09.24 | znf | $deity damn it |
| 09:09.29 | znf | every time there's a hard crash like that |
| 09:09.33 | znf | it ports me back to garrison |
| 09:10.55 | znf | LOL |
| 09:11.01 | znf | I've fallen with the flying mount |
| 09:11.06 | znf | erm, with the flightpath mount |
| 09:11.53 | znf | now what? http://i.imgur.com/QgGSmt7.jpg |
| 09:11.54 | znf | :-| |
| 09:11.59 | znf | if I move, I get d/c'd |
| 09:12.11 | Stanzilla | make new toonn |
| 09:14.48 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/8eTJyy8.png |
| 09:14.49 | znf | :-( |
| 09:18.10 | Stanzilla | 32 million whatsapp users in germany |
| 09:18.22 | Stanzilla | death of SMS immenent |
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| 09:19.00 | znf | but Whatsapp is not an SMS replacement :P |
| 09:19.04 | znf | It's simply instant messaging |
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| 09:19.07 | Stanzilla | sure is |
| 09:19.34 | Stanzilla | that's what made it so successful, it works just like sms but free |
| 09:19.51 | nebula169 | znf: it's pretty much a replacement, even uses your mobile number as your identity |
| 09:20.09 | Stanzilla | ^ |
| 09:20.14 | znf | I know how it works... |
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| 09:20.21 | znf | We're using it, too |
| 09:20.30 | znf | but I'm just saying, it's not exactly viewed as SMS replacement |
| 09:20.36 | Stanzilla | sure is |
| 09:20.38 | znf | unless you used SMS for instant messaging... |
| 09:20.48 | nebula169 | sms should die, it's retardedly expensive for what it provides and your provider keeps records of all the texts |
| 09:21.11 | nebula169 | all services over data gooooo |
| 09:21.30 | Stanzilla | germans sent 66 billion sms in 2012 |
| 09:21.37 | Stanzilla | 3,8b in 2013 |
| 09:21.44 | Stanzilla | 38b |
| 09:21.45 | Stanzilla | sorry |
| 09:21.53 | znf | nebula169, once upon a time, some carriers/phones were able to use SMS over GPRS |
| 09:22.29 | Stanzilla | but almost every data plan in germany sucks |
| 09:22.33 | Stanzilla | stupidly expensive |
| 09:22.39 | znf | your whole internet stuff sucks :D |
| 09:22.40 | Stanzilla | I currently pay 25 euros for 250mb |
| 09:23.14 | Stanzilla | that is ofc with other stuff like free calling on weekends or so |
| 09:23.17 | Stanzilla | but I only use data anyway |
| 09:24.13 | Stanzilla | and whatsapp just added calling over data |
| 09:24.28 | znf | found an event! |
| 09:25.42 | Workfoz | 35€ for 2 GiB :| will be 40€ next year |
| 09:26.02 | Stanzilla | I'll switch to congstar in august |
| 09:26.19 | Stanzilla | 10 euro for 1gb then |
| 09:26.29 | Workfoz | but of course flat to everywhere all the time |
| 09:26.33 | Workfoz | (which I don't really need) |
| 09:26.50 | Stanzilla | like I said |
| 09:26.54 | Stanzilla | there is callin in whatsapp now |
| 09:27.16 | Workfoz | yeah that's not useful to me, really |
| 09:27.29 | Stanzilla | too many business calls I guess |
| 09:27.33 | Workfoz | I don't make many calls, and those I make are rarely to other phones |
| 09:27.37 | Workfoz | *smartphones |
| 09:27.45 | znf | I don't see it on iOS... |
| 09:27.57 | Workfoz | probably because iOS doesn't allow it, haha |
| 09:27.58 | Stanzilla | lol iOS |
| 09:28.18 | Workfoz | i.e. call doctor's office, call garage, call parents @ home, call ... well that's about it |
| 09:29.57 | znf | Workfoz, there's facebook messenger, there's Viber, there's Tango |
| 09:30.06 | znf | they probably haven't updated it on iOS |
| 09:30.08 | Workfoz | so? |
| 09:30.12 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/26ib8y9.jpg <-- look what I found |
| 09:30.17 | Stanzilla | nobody uses that here |
| 09:30.19 | znf | Workfoz, I mean those have voice calling |
| 09:30.20 | Workfoz | not sure what you're trying to say |
| 09:30.20 | Stanzilla | .de is whatsapp land |
| 09:30.22 | Workfoz | aha, ok |
| 09:30.53 | Workfoz | and yeah, while I know people who have Viber or Threema, they also all have Whatsapp, so I doubt they're doing much talking on the other ones ^^ |
| 09:31.40 | znf | NIIIOo |
| 09:31.46 | znf | NOOOOOO |
| 09:31.47 | znf | >_< |
| 09:31.51 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/wmbMly6.jpg |
| 09:31.54 | znf | and I got d/c'd |
| 09:32.03 | znf | oh shit, it's lvl100 |
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| 09:40.15 | Workfoz | pwnt |
| 09:41.53 | znf | Stanzilla, yeah, that area hurts :D |
| 09:41.59 | znf | all the mobs are fuckin' lvl 100 :D |
| 09:42.08 | znf | why are they lvl100 in frostfire? :-| |
| 09:44.09 | Workfoz | to keeel jooo |
| 09:45.10 | Stanzilla | there is a nice area in the north that has those too |
| 09:45.24 | znf | yes... |
| 09:45.31 | znf | to the right of Grombolash |
| 09:45.37 | znf | has big headed frog people |
| 09:45.48 | znf | north-west |
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| 10:15.10 | znf | oooo! http://i.imgur.com/3ldsPse.png |
| 10:19.41 | znf | Oh! So that's how you add a follower to it: http://i.imgur.com/3PDv1g6.png |
| 10:23.49 | Stanzilla | znf: there is no + button for me there |
| 10:24.06 | znf | Stanzilla, on the fishing one? |
| 10:24.21 | Stanzilla | I only have alchemy |
| 10:24.29 | znf | fishing is on the left bottom |
| 10:24.43 | znf | but yeah, there's no + button on alchemy |
| 10:24.47 | znf | fishing is "inherited" |
| 10:24.52 | Stanzilla | ah |
| 10:24.59 | Stanzilla | clicking the + only gives an empty list though |
| 10:25.00 | znf | (it's already placed) |
| 10:25.02 | znf | yup |
| 10:25.06 | znf | no follower with fishing, that's why |
| 10:29.50 | znf | I've been having like 9-10 viewerson my stream |
| 10:29.51 | znf | I have no idea why |
| 10:31.19 | Kalroth | they're stalking you |
| 10:31.50 | Kalroth | watching you quietly, waiting for an opportunity to insult you |
| 10:32.36 | Workfoz | why would the need to wait...? |
| 10:35.52 | quiescens | spais |
| 10:36.34 | Stanzilla | man do I do that fishing quest now |
| 10:36.36 | Stanzilla | I hate fhsing |
| 10:37.00 | quiescens | ): |
| 10:39.05 | Stanzilla | znf: did yo udo the fire ammonite egg quest? |
| 10:39.23 | znf | yeah |
| 10:39.30 | Stanzilla | where? |
| 10:39.39 | znf | went to grombolash |
| 10:39.45 | znf | there's 3 pools there 100% ammonite |
| 10:39.52 | Stanzilla | aight |
| 10:39.53 | Stanzilla | thanks |
| 10:42.42 | znf | meh |
| 10:42.44 | znf | my internet keeps going down |
| 10:50.40 | znf | yeah, fuck it |
| 10:50.47 | znf | enough playing & streaming for today |
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| 12:39.04 | Workfoz | Stanzilla, znf: case in point: https://mediacru.sh/78Mo6KHM2ock 😀 |
| 12:41.04 | quiescens | nerf *foz |
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| 13:02.09 | Megalon | *foz, answering the hard questions |
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| 13:56.43 | chiel | Timmeh: still alive :p |
| 13:57.16 | chiel | just been busy |
| 13:57.34 | chiel | finding a new job (don't judge me :p) |
| 13:58.46 | Timmeh | hahahaha |
| 13:58.51 | Timmeh | riiiight |
| 13:59.02 | nevcairiel | another new job? didnt you just get the severance package from the one before that? :p |
| 13:59.04 | Timmeh | what's the reason this time? :-D |
| 13:59.16 | chiel | the one i went to now really was t floating my boat, so quit witin my probation |
| 13:59.27 | chiel | it just wasnt making me happy man |
| 13:59.44 | Timmeh | alright |
| 13:59.51 | chiel | and they were lookimg for someone for the long term, so wasnt really fair on them either to stick around |
| 14:00.04 | chiel | i just want to find my place |
| 14:00.23 | chiel | but last friday i interviewed with a really nice place, followup on thurs |
| 14:00.30 | chiel | so we'll see |
| 14:00.41 | chiel | nevcairiel: yup :p |
| 14:00.58 | Timmeh | if you can cope reporting to me, I can get you an interview here :-P |
| 14:01.21 | chiel | it's on the other side of the country man :p |
| 14:01.30 | Timmeh | and there's that :-P |
| 14:01.40 | nevcairiel | your country is tiny, whats that, like an hour drive?! |
| 14:01.40 | chiel | i mean, that's not that far cause holland... but still! |
| 14:01.51 | Timmeh | hah |
| 14:02.08 | Timmeh | well I don't think what we're currently looking for would float your boat either anyway |
| 14:02.18 | nevcairiel | office whore? |
| 14:02.35 | Timmeh | nevcairiel: grocery guy + coffee making guy |
| 14:02.42 | nevcairiel | so, yes |
| 14:02.46 | Timmeh | hm |
| 14:03.03 | chiel | hahaha |
| 14:03.05 | nevcairiel | dont you usually get cheap student interns for that kind of jobs |
| 14:03.05 | Timmeh | nevcairiel: thing is, I think those 2 things might be too much for him |
| 14:03.20 | chiel | i need to buy some harddrive for a nas |
| 14:03.23 | Timmeh | nevcairiel: if it were either groceries or coffee making, sure |
| 14:03.24 | Timmeh | but both? |
| 14:03.32 | chiel | any recommendations? |
| 14:03.48 | Timmeh | chiel: a silver-grey one |
| 14:03.52 | nevcairiel | if you have money to waste, buy enterprise-class drives |
| 14:04.22 | nevcairiel | if you dont, get WD Red or Seagate NAS drives |
| 14:04.51 | Timmeh | whenever I buy new storage for my storage server, I just buy whatever's the best byte-per-euro ratio at that moment |
| 14:04.52 | chiel | i dont :p |
| 14:04.55 | Timmeh | I run it in RAID 1 anyway |
| 14:05.09 | chiel | dunno if I'll do that |
| 14:05.13 | Timmeh | so when one drive gives up, I just replace it with a new best byte-per-euro one at that point |
| 14:05.34 | nevcairiel | i dont buy the cheapo consumer drives, but i also dont buy the enterprise class drives, the new NAS drives that are available now fill a spot in between just fine .p |
| 14:06.35 | chiel | are they called seagate nas drives? |
| 14:07.26 | chiel | so they are |
| 14:07.37 | nevcairiel | http://www.seagate.com/internal-hard-drives/nas-drives/nas-hdd/ |
| 14:08.02 | chiel | doesnt matter if i just chuck em into a normal case though, right? |
| 14:08.07 | nevcairiel | i prefer WD Red because in my mind seagates die faster, but thats just me |
| 14:08.11 | nevcairiel | nah |
| 14:09.40 | chiel | cool |
| 14:09.51 | chiel | think i'll get two of those then |
| 14:10.04 | chiel | theyre 145 each for 4gb |
| 14:10.34 | chiel | 107 for 3gb though |
| 14:10.40 | chiel | time to check pricewatch |
| 14:14.58 | chiel | with raid 0, can you change it to raid 1 later? |
| 14:15.06 | nevcairiel | wd reds are around 140 and seagate nas around 145 for me here |
| 14:15.22 | nevcairiel | chiel: only if you have space to move all data temporarily |
| 14:16.09 | chiel | nevcairiel: yea that pretty much matches what i have |
| 14:16.12 | chiel | alrighty |
| 14:16.28 | chiel | cause i don't really have money to go raid 1 right this moment |
| 14:17.48 | chiel | do you reckon an antec p183 v3 is decent enough for building a nas in? |
| 14:18.48 | nevcairiel | it doesnt seem to fit all that many drives |
| 14:18.53 | nevcairiel | guess it depends what you need |
| 14:19.35 | chiel | yea, but i can just transfer it over to another case later i suppose :) |
| 14:20.17 | nevcairiel | if you have the case already, sure |
| 14:20.30 | chiel | yea it's my old one |
| 14:21.11 | chiel | need to reinstall my parents' old machine to see if their motherboard/cpu are still fine |
| 14:24.22 | Timmeh | RAID 0? in a NAS? for what purpose? |
| 14:26.08 | chiel | yea probably wont do that now |
| 14:26.15 | chiel | but the synology thing had raid0 |
| 14:26.29 | Timmeh | it's going to be your network speed that's the bottleneck anyway |
| 14:26.37 | Timmeh | not the disk read/write performance |
| 14:26.50 | chiel | yup |
| 14:27.14 | chiel | i think imcan just reuse my old motherboard as well and all that stuff |
| 14:27.36 | Timmeh | you could, though I'd imagine you want an as energy-efficient thing as possible |
| 14:27.56 | chiel | then i just gotta have something running on there to expose the drives to the network |
| 14:27.59 | chiel | yes, overmtime |
| 14:28.08 | chiel | over time* |
| 14:28.43 | chiel | for now I am ok with just basically reusing my old pc bits for a month or so until i have money for a diff motherboard more suited to this task |
| 14:34.04 | Timmeh | basic random linux distribution with NFS and Samba installed will do then |
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| 14:49.03 | chiel | hmm |
| 14:49.30 | chiel | my parents' pc hangs on "starting windows" when booting from the installation disc |
| 14:49.42 | chiel | and it does the same when booting from the windows install on the ssd |
| 14:49.55 | chiel | any idea what could be causing this? |
| 14:51.18 | chiel | it's a fairly old motherboard, could it be something to do with that? |
| 14:51.51 | chiel | cause otherwise i'll try to put in the motherboard from my old pc and attach the harddrives to that, see if it makes a difference |
| 14:53.32 | chiel | could it be the cd drive? |
| 14:53.59 | chiel | i mean it loads the installation files fine, but the. just fails on actually starting windows |
| 14:57.13 | quiescens | you broked it! |
| 14:58.14 | chiel | was already bokred, thats why its at my flat :p |
| 14:59.10 | quiescens | do you have any other installation thingies to try? |
| 15:01.28 | chiel | hmm its an old motherboard, so... dunno, guess i can put windows 7 on a usb stick and test if that works |
| 15:01.40 | Ressy | picking up a Synology for work.. I hear they're pretty good. |
| 15:02.23 | chiel | yea theyre nice |
| 15:02.30 | chiel | i have one atm |
| 15:03.19 | Ressy | Getting a 214+ and scrapping our barely touched server. |
| 15:04.19 | chiel | i have ads212j, served me well over the past few years |
| 15:04.41 | chiel | just have a need for more storage space and would like to be able to add more drives fairly easily later |
| 15:04.59 | Ressy | yeah.. our storage is all of 12 gb. lol |
| 15:05.16 | chiel | 6tb on mine atm haha |
| 15:05.25 | chiel | only has series and movies |
| 15:05.26 | Ressy | seriously need like nothing, and our "IT/server" guys recommended 2 4tb drives. |
| 15:05.26 | chiel | brb |
| 15:05.33 | Ressy | I /facepalm'd |
| 15:05.42 | nebula169 | go big or go home |
| 15:06.00 | Ressy | Our files compress when you close them. |
| 15:06.20 | Ressy | 2 1tbs are going to be more than enough |
| 15:07.01 | Ressy | Small accounting office. |
| 15:07.09 | Ressy | and we're not going paperless (BOO!) |
| 15:12.52 | Fisker | Hey nevcairiel |
| 15:23.34 | nevcairiel | hey Fisker |
| 15:34.16 | Megalon | got quite heyisn real quick |
| 15:34.27 | Megalon | s/heyisn/heyish/ |
| 15:39.46 | chiel | man i really dunno what is wrong with this computer |
| 15:40.28 | chiel | is there anything in the motherboard that could stop windows from booting properly, even though it's clearly getting to the windows loading screen? |
| 15:43.49 | chiel | i guess tonight when inget back home i'll try the motherboard from. y old pc and see how that one fares |
| 15:44.18 | chiel | but it looks like i might have to buy a new motherboard for my little nas project |
| 15:44.50 | chiel | if that's the casemi'll probably just get a motherboard with integrated cpu |
| 15:44.55 | Archarodim | an infinite number of things unfortunately. But you can try to change the disk controller mode in the bios from IDE to AHCI or RAID |
| 15:45.36 | Archarodim | you can also try windows' safe mode or debug mode |
| 15:46.50 | chiel | Archarodim: i should add that this even happens when trying to boot off the installation dvd, btw |
| 15:48.19 | Archarodim | maybe bad ram then or incompatible hardware. You should try a linux live cd if that doesn't boot then you probably have a serious hardware issue |
| 15:49.34 | chiel | ahh ok, cool, ty :) |
| 15:49.43 | chiel | so this could be ram related... interestimg |
| 15:50.01 | chiel | this machine was working fine before btw |
| 15:50.07 | chiel | until like 2 weeks ago |
| 15:50.39 | Archarodim | no hardware change inbetween? |
| 15:52.23 | chiel | nope |
| 15:52.40 | chiel | one day it just stopped working, hanging on the "starting windows" screen |
| 15:52.48 | chiel | it's my parents system |
| 15:52.53 | chiel | sadly I gotta run now |
| 15:53.01 | chiel | i'll be back! :p |
| 15:53.09 | Archarodim | could be a virus too, just a try a linux live cd |
| 16:16.57 | quiescens | shrug |
| 16:17.16 | quiescens | iuno if they checked the more obvious and potentially less thought of stuff |
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| 18:00.10 | Stanzilla | totally owned them on the field |
| 18:01.30 | Fisker | Hi Stanzilla |
| 18:01.33 | Fisker | H E Y |
| 18:02.00 | quiescens | go to sleep stanzilla~ |
| 18:04.07 | Stanzilla | h e y |
| 18:04.14 | Stanzilla | Fisker: did you try the watch dogs mod yet? |
| 18:04.19 | Fisker | nope |
| 18:05.24 | Stanzilla | Fisker: and IE dev channel? |
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| 18:08.25 | Fisker | nope |
| 18:10.04 | Fisker | k |
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| 18:20.17 | Fisker | remember when you linked stuff Stanzilla ? |
| 18:23.56 | Stanzilla | Fisker: yes! do you also remember when you made sense? |
| 18:24.14 | Fisker | Yep last time was aproximately 4 minutes ago |
| 18:24.19 | Fisker | now 5 seconds ago |
| 18:24.19 | quiescens | making sense is overrated |
| 18:24.20 | quiescens | o.o |
| 18:24.20 | Fisker | now now |
| 18:24.31 | Fisker | It's like I'm some form of perpetual sense machine |
| 18:24.53 | quiescens | gives fisker a cookie |
| 18:25.18 | Fisker | hi quiescens |
| 18:34.14 | Stanzilla | Fisker: http://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-launches-internet-explorer-developer-version-shows-us-the-browsers-future |
| 18:35.26 | Stanzilla | this makes me so happy http://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-is-about-to-make-big-changes-to-legacy-windows-code |
| 18:37.25 | Fisker | what about watch_doge? |
| 18:39.38 | Fisker | omg Stanzilla |
| 18:39.41 | Fisker | That makes me happy too |
| 18:39.52 | Fisker | to see a your mom joke in the ad |
| 18:41.09 | Fisker | hmm |
| 18:41.24 | Stanzilla | Fisker: http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=390114 |
| 18:45.24 | Fisker | I thought App-V was basically just Citrix XenApp |
| 18:45.45 | Fisker | This is amazionarying |
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| 18:57.45 | Fisker | aww man |
| 18:57.50 | Fisker | It's not available for free |
| 18:58.01 | Fisker | good thing I still have VLSC access |
| 18:58.05 | Fisker | fuck the police |
| 18:58.11 | Fisker | 3 hours?! |
| 18:58.12 | Fisker | :( |
| 18:58.14 | Fisker | 4 |
| 18:58.17 | Fisker | 8 |
| 18:58.19 | Fisker | 12 |
| 18:58.20 | Fisker | :( |
| 18:58.24 | Fisker | N/A |
| 18:58.25 | Fisker | owned |
| 18:59.02 | Fisker | I wonder why Microsoft insists on having shitty download rates when not using the download manager |
| 18:59.43 | Stanzilla | http://www.istartedsomething.com/20140616/the-12-step-process-to-download-microsoft-sql-server-express-2014/ |
| 18:59.52 | Stanzilla | that just says everything about downloads and microsoft |
| 19:00.28 | Fisker | lol |
| 19:00.31 | Fisker | download manager doesn't work at all |
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| 19:00.52 | Fisker | back to regular downloads then |
| 19:00.56 | Fisker | 300kB/s! |
| 19:05.25 | Fisker | one day it will be done downloading Stanzilla :( |
| 19:06.51 | Fisker | yay |
| 19:06.57 | Fisker | java applet worked now |
| 19:06.58 | Fisker | 5MB/s |
| 19:06.59 | Fisker | more like it |
| 19:07.31 | Fisker | 2,5MB/s |
| 19:07.34 | Fisker | less like it :( |
| 19:08.00 | Fisker | SW_DVD5_Dsktp_Optimization_Pck_SA_2014_English_MLF_X19-52078.ISO |
| 19:08.01 | Fisker | wow |
| 19:08.12 | Fisker | such conservation of characters |
| 19:08.18 | Fisker | much hacker |
| 19:12.12 | Stanzilla | is that even worth installing? |
| 19:16.58 | Fisker | Gonna check out the app-v sequencer |
| 19:17.21 | Fisker | If I can make app-v packages like that IE Dev Channel |
| 19:17.31 | Fisker | I'm gonna have a hardon for the remaining 11 days of work |
| 19:19.01 | Repo | skillet: 03yossa 042.52beta * r338 : Tagging as 2.52beta |
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| 19:41.43 | Stanzilla | https://plus.google.com/?utm_source=chrome_ntp_icon&utm_medium=chrome_app&utm_campaign=chrome |
| 19:41.44 | Stanzilla | jesus |
| 19:41.46 | Stanzilla | that is very red |
| 19:50.54 | nevcairiel | i'm not sure thats linking to what you think it is |
| 19:51.11 | Stanzilla | yeah it doesnt |
| 19:51.22 | Stanzilla | https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-e28tJEF9iLk/U572WPpoQPI/AAAAAAABXMw/PRDz_AGcEbM/w1373-h773-no/Screenshot+%252822%2529.png |
| 19:51.23 | Stanzilla | there |
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| 20:53.18 | Fisker | People still ignore it Stanzilla :3 |
| 20:53.31 | Fisker | I must say I like the new pages though |
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| 20:53.49 | Stanzilla | y |
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| 21:35.50 | chiel | quiescens: they checked nothing, they are computer illiterate :p |
| 21:36.53 | chiel | Archarodim: hmm, hut a virus would not affect the windows dvd, would it? o.o |
| 21:38.10 | Archarodim | You're right indeed... |
| 21:39.00 | chiel | that leads me to believe it's either related to the motherboard, cpu or ram |
| 21:39.20 | Archarodim | or video card |
| 21:39.31 | Archarodim | try to run diagnostics from http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/download.html |
| 21:39.57 | chiel | video vard would not make it hang on starting windows screen, would it? |
| 21:40.09 | chiel | excuse typos btw, ipad keyboard is well shitty |
| 21:40.35 | Archarodim | I think it could |
| 21:41.05 | Archarodim | windows tries to load as many driver as possible, one of them is probably failing |
| 21:41.39 | chiel | hmm |
| 21:41.44 | chiel | weirddd |
| 21:41.51 | nevcairiel | such problems are far more commonly ram |
| 21:42.00 | chiel | could i just try and replace their ram? |
| 21:42.09 | nevcairiel | you could just try and run memtest |
| 21:42.12 | chiel | is that possible, or will the thing freak out? |
| 21:42.25 | nevcairiel | if you have matching ram modules, sure |
| 21:42.44 | chiel | you mean same ones as are currently in there? |
| 21:42.49 | Archarodim | could also be power supply related, if voltages are unstable |
| 21:42.55 | chiel | or just 2 modules i could chuck in there? |
| 21:42.56 | chiel | hmm |
| 21:43.07 | chiel | the psu was making some weirdmhigh peeping noises |
| 21:43.23 | nevcairiel | if you have a multimeter handy then check its voltages |
| 21:43.40 | Archarodim | stop guessing, just run diagnostics |
| 21:44.05 | chiel | haha it's just that i have very little experiemce with such tools :) |
| 21:44.23 | chiel | but inguess i can just chuck them on a usb drive and boot off that |
| 21:45.04 | Archarodim | they're not difficult to use, especially memtest which the most basic diagnostic you should run before trying anything else at all. Just select it from UBCD's menu and press enter |
| 21:46.15 | chiel | cool, gonna download that and chuck it on a usb drive :) |
| 21:46.20 | chiel | thanks so far! |
| 22:07.58 | znf | Access to the AccuWeather API requires an API key. Contact sales@accuweather.com to receive an API key. |
| 22:08.00 | znf | AAAAAAAAAGHRGARGAHRAG R!@#!@# (!@# |
| 22:10.17 | znf | needs weather api with water temperatures |
| 22:10.18 | znf | :( |
| 22:10.28 | znf | need 3 days forecast :-/ |
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| 22:14.57 | chiel | currently running memtest on this thing now :) |
| 22:34.27 | chiel | apparently it takes ages :p |
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| 22:56.31 | znf | this RPi is fun! :D |
| 23:11.00 | znf | ...slow as fuck, though |
| 23:15.18 | znf | hmm, it seems that the slownes is the SDCard |
| 23:15.20 | znf | oh well |
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