IRC log for #wowace on 20140605

00:01.14Funkeh`the build where they enable addons
00:01.57Gnarfozoh yeah
00:02.01Gnarfozyeah, see other chan
00:02.01Gnarfoz;D
00:02.13Gnarfozso where do I get my other 9 "material"
00:03.51MysticalOSlooks like crash problem is here
00:03.52MysticalOSException:   /Volumes/Data/BuildServer2.0/buildserver/data.noindex/repositories/wow/branches/wow-patch-6_0_1-branch/WoW/Source/Object/ObjectClient/Movement_C.cpp
00:04.17MysticalOSDescription: Failed to dereference transport! Provided GUID 0xF130BA210002D12B from /Volumes/Data/BuildServer2.0/buildserver/data.noindex/repositories/wow/branches/wow-patch-6_0_1-branch/WoW/Source/Object/Passenger.cpp(60)
00:04.21MysticalOSthat's cause of the repeated crashing
00:04.47Gnarfozmeh I basically have no repeated crashing
00:04.54Gnarfozmy blizz guy warned me to turn shadows down to low
00:04.57MysticalOSit only happens when i am near other players
00:04.58GnarfozI ignored him and promptly crashed
00:05.09Gnarfozif you crash like, almost constantly, try that
00:06.05MysticalOSyeah maybe i shoudn't run ultra
00:06.13MysticalOSbut part of testing to me is performance testing
00:06.19GnarfozI'm running ultra except shadows now
00:06.30Gnarfozworks fine
00:06.38Gnarfozand I just got an achievement for going to the shitter
00:06.42MysticalOSssao?
00:06.54GnarfozCM..thing
00:06.56Gnarfozthe new intel one
00:06.59Gnarfozoh wait
00:07.02Gnarfozyou were asking something else
00:07.08Gnarfozyes, SSAO ultra
00:07.32MysticalOSzone looks so bare without ground clutter
00:07.34MysticalOSlike it's disabled
00:07.40Gnarfozbasically I turned the slider to ultra and changed two things: 16x aniso to 8x aniso and shadows to low
00:07.45Gnarfozmaybe it's not in
00:07.47Gnarfozbut yeah
00:07.51Gnarfozor it's under the snow ;p
00:14.12Gnarfoznevcairiel: so I guess they changed the rendering thing to accommodate the target outline thing
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00:24.12Stanzillaitems are totally broken
00:24.15Stanzillaor more like stats
00:24.21Stanzillawarlocks having spirit on their start gear
00:24.31Stanzillaint cloth belts dropping with bonus armor
00:24.36Stanzilladungeon loot is lvl 100
00:24.37Stanzillaetc
00:27.04Torhaltotally breaks Stanzilla.
00:54.34quiescenspoor stanzilla
01:04.13Megalonnot like he wasn't broken before
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01:17.28znfhoney, I R Home
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02:28.26TrelaTorhal: I have been sitting here trying to remember what your iMessage email address was so I could message you.  I just remembered about IRC.  :(
02:29.07TorhalTrela: I even hit you up on Skype because you were showing as active.
02:29.17TrelaHaaaaaaaaaaa
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02:41.27znfis Trela the one with WoD invite giveaways?
02:41.46TrelaNO.
02:42.02MegalonStanzilla is the one, just message him
02:42.10Megalonsay quiescens sent you
03:14.55quiescenso.o
03:14.57quiescensi didn't do it
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03:19.21GnarfozI'm going to hate myself "tomorrow"
03:19.30Gnarfozi.e. 3.5 hours from now
03:20.57quiescenso.o
03:21.04quiescenswhat did you do gnarfoz
03:21.11Gnarfozbe awake
03:21.27quiescens):
03:21.30quiescenssleep is good~
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07:01.03sbmorning
07:08.52sbnew hangouts Stanzilla
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07:19.40sb~toc
07:19.41purlThe current WoW interface number is 50400, or magical, or apparently very complex.
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07:46.02sbwildstar down, meh!
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07:49.30Gnarfozsb: 0900-1030
07:49.36Gnarfozmeh wrong client
07:49.43Gnarfozand ofc stanzilla knows
07:52.01sbhehe
07:52.09sbso you dont play anymore because alpha? :D
07:52.36sband yes, 10:30 - i have bautrocknung here and cant go to work, so i think i could do some playing (another char ofc) - but MEH!
07:53.34Workfozshould follow @wildstar_de @wildstar and @wildstarops (if not half of the goddamn community team with their 123123 different accounts)
07:53.38Workfozand read the dev tracker
07:53.39Workfoz=D
07:53.55Workfozwell, at least you'd have found out basically "now" ;-)
07:54.24sbi know because it said "shutdown in 90min" ingame
07:54.28sberrr
07:54.30sbfor 90min
07:54.34sb"in 15" :D
07:54.34Workfozhaha
07:54.34Workfozwell
07:54.40Workfozat least they do that, too ;-)
07:54.47Workfozdid you install any of those addons?
07:54.50sbyup
07:54.57Workfozapparently, they're already 20 new ones xD
07:57.03sbbut staying at home i not my choice, so... just have to wait till he is gone
07:57.08sbcould take some hours though
07:57.25sband i already follow wildstarops and wildstar_de :p
08:00.38FiskerDid they fix easy levelling Workfoz ?
08:00.48WorkfozFisker: saywhat
08:01.02Workfozare you trolling, I'm too sleepy to tell
08:01.02FiskerIn wildstar
08:01.17Kalrothwhen isn't he trolling!
08:02.27FiskerI'm never trolling
08:02.37FiskerI just liked GameLib.Cheat_MakeMeLevel50()
08:02.44FiskerBest function EU
08:02.51sbWorkfoz: so what are the 20 addons?
08:03.10Kalrothdid you get a surface 3 pro yet fisker
08:03.12WorkfozFisker: yeah, dat rickroll
08:03.18Workfozsb: no idea, haven't looked, yet
08:03.22FiskerNo Kalroth
08:03.28FiskerMaybe at Blizzcon
08:03.37sbyou are going to blizzcon?
08:03.48Workfozsb: I just remember the addon count each time I open the CC or go to the page, and it jumped by about 20 between yesterday 18:00 and "today" 04:00
08:04.00FiskerMaybe sb
08:04.09sbso do custome contest!
08:04.12sbcostume
08:04.16Kalrothsb: he's paid to show up, they need someone for the murloc suit
08:04.22sb:D
08:04.25Workfozgo as "pasty white nerd", no further work required
08:04.44Workfozwell, you'd need a translator, but that's it
08:05.01Kalrothrude, danes speek very god englisk
08:05.23sbtwo step verification every single login is pretty annoying :|
08:06.24FiskerAnd apparently I'm the troll
08:07.14sbWorkfoz: so did you do some leveling?
08:07.17Workfozsb: don't log out so much, then?
08:07.23Workfozsb: nope, not last night
08:07.27Workfozsb: Stanzilla kept me back :D
08:07.36nevcairielStanzilla keeps us all back
08:07.40Workfozgave him a guest pass and he was instantly confused by basically everything!
08:07.49sbhaha
08:07.54sbso he is on our server? :p
08:08.03Workfoznow he is, I made him reroll since he was only level 1 anyway
08:08.12Workfozgranted, at least one issue he had IS really stupid
08:08.31Workfozcheck the minimap: there's a bold orange line+arrow and some off-white dashed lines+arrow
08:08.32sbbeing stupid?
08:08.51Workfozthey're apparently pre-drawn on the minimap tiles, are not context- or quest progress-aware
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08:09.07Workfozand the more prominent one (the orange one) is the one you have to ignore
08:09.22Workfozit basically shows what path you will take *when you've finished all the quests"
08:09.40Workfozso it goes from "you enter this subzone here, and you will exit it there"
08:10.03Workfozbut you can't go without doing the quests
08:10.17Workfozand it's so attention grabbing (if you're looking at the map for directions) that it's really confusing for people who don't yet know how best to interpret the UI
08:10.50sbnever paid attention to minimap besides yellow dots for single objectives
08:11.10Workfozyeah me neither
08:11.21Workfozbut he even wante to use the big world map for questing
08:11.44sbalso downtime was announced 6 hours ago, how am i supposed to read that tweet?
08:11.47Workfozwhich does show quest objectives, but only when it's covering the entire screen (not really worth much)
08:11.57Workfozsb: before starting to play this morning, ofc :>
08:12.05Workfozbut then you'd end up like me, never actually playing :p
08:15.52sbyup
08:15.59sbi dont want to go to work :|
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08:20.23sbstupid patch notes, bring back the realms
08:20.36Workfozgiev patch notes plx
08:21.07sbhttps://forums.wildstar-online.com/forums/index.php?/topic/64169-update-notes-build-6714-652014/
08:21.13Workfozty
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08:22.34quiescenso.o
08:24.34sbyes quiescens?
08:28.36Workfozsb: oh, those are yesterday's
08:29.57sbservers are online
08:30.09sbtime to finish starting area and then go to work :p
08:33.10quiescenswoek woek
08:33.26quiescensyou can be like workfoz and only pretend to work
08:36.37Workfozyep
08:36.38Repolibbanzai-2-0: 03nebula169 * r46 LibBanzai-2.0.toc: bump TOC for 5.4
08:36.43Workfozsb: well at least they're on time :)
08:37.23sbwonder if i can play tonight :|
08:37.30quiescens):
08:41.37sbokay, he is gone - off to work
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09:02.21sbWorkfoz: start working!
09:02.38WorkfozI am, whaddayawant
09:03.02sbcookies
09:03.14quiescensgives sb a cookie
09:06.14Workfozthere, fucked up my outlook column settings, are you happy now?!
09:08.06sboutlook? you said something about work! :D
09:08.23sbmy outlook is fucked up all the time because stupid domain policies
09:12.16sbWorkfoz: http://nexuscribs.com/ - something for you :D
09:13.01Workfozyeah I know that page
09:13.55winkI pity the fool who has to use outlook
09:14.00winkthen again I have to use gmail
09:14.03winknot much better
09:14.23WorkfozOutlook is a fine email client
09:14.29Workfozthere's lots of worse choices :P
09:14.37Workfoz(not to mention we were on Notes before)
09:14.40quiescenspine
09:15.11Workfozyeah command line programms totally rock on OSes with a working GUI
09:16.40quiescens):
09:18.28sbnah, outlook is fine - so is gmail
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09:32.03sbawww
09:32.45sbWorkfoz: whats with your moving plans?
09:32.49sbdid you find something new?
09:34.16Fiskerhey sb
09:34.21sbhey Fisker
09:34.26Fiskerwanna hey?
09:34.45sbno, key please
09:35.04Fiskerkey
09:35.42Workfozsb: negatory
09:36.44sbWorkfoz: getting immobilienscount offers every day... very tempting :|
09:36.53sbhttp://www.immobilienscout24.de/expose/74920021
09:37.05Workfozat least you're getting them :D I basically don't, maybe my filters are broken ^^
09:37.41sbhttp://lifehacker.com/work-for-just-five-minutes-to-break-procrastination-hab-1586070938
09:38.03Workfoznot too bad, can't say if the price is ok, though
09:38.23WorkfozBj 2004 is nice
09:39.13Workfozwoah, two terraces
09:39.34sbS is expensive, so its okay - only downside is parking, we need 2 garage/carports - this has only 1 spot in a double parking thingy
09:48.12sbWorkfoz: http://www.amazon.de/s/ref=sr_nr_n_7?rh=n%3A77195031%2Cn%3A%21425429031%2Cn%3A%21425431031%2Cn%3A2551252031%2Cp_n_format_browse-bin%3A180848031%2Cn%3A180627031&bbn=2551252031&ie=UTF8&qid=1401961665&rnid=180529031
09:48.39sbbut nothing interesting there...
09:50.19Workfozmeh
09:50.21Workfozthey're mp3 without cd
09:50.30Workfozso... why would I buy any of that, with gmusic flat
09:50.31Workfoz:D
09:51.46sbbecause not everything is on gmusic? :D
09:56.03Workfozmore than enough is
09:56.36WorkfozI'll keep pirating the rest until they figure out that arbitrarily restricting on which media I can consume their product is stupid
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09:57.09quiescenshow will they sell you the same thing twice if you can just use your original copy wherever you like?
09:58.19Workfozmy original copy of what?
09:58.22FiskerOh man!
09:58.28FiskerMy CV is very attractive
09:58.37Workfozit's because it's about *you*, honey
09:58.55Fiskerso they're offering me a job with bookkeeping
09:59.04FiskerBut I don't have anything to do with keeping books
09:59.06Fisker:(
09:59.10FiskerDid they even read my CV?
09:59.15FiskerI'm beginning to think they're liars
09:59.42Fiskeralso offering me a wage up to or substantially lower than welfare isn't exactly my fetish
10:00.32Workfozsb: 512 GB MX100 not available in most places :|
10:01.01sbthats the ssd you want nowadays?
10:01.08sbno more samsung? evo whatever
10:03.24sbgiev WoD :|
10:10.16WorkfozI'd never have bought the evo
10:10.17Workfozbut ymmv
10:10.55Workfozalso, sure, http://geizhals.de/?cat=hdssd&xf=252_480~2028_512#xf_top
10:11.01Workfoz0.338 €/GiB
10:11.04Workfozwtf prices
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10:12.15quiescensis that good or bad
10:12.40Workfozand I can't really fight http://www.anandtech.com/show/8066/crucial-mx100-256gb-512gb-review/9 "nothing left to be desired"
10:12.44Workfozthat is extremely good
10:12.56quiescens\o/
10:13.13Workfozonly the 256 GB model of the same SSD is lower, at 0.333 €/GiB
10:15.01sbprices are nice, 180eur for 512gb
10:15.22FiskerWhy don't you buy one then Workfoz ?
10:15.32sbnot available
10:15.35WorkfozFisker: because n/a
10:15.41FiskerWe got tons here
10:15.42Workfozwell, it's available at a bit higher price
10:15.47Workfozye
10:15.59Workfozit'd still be an amazing deal regardless of +5€ in price, tbh
10:16.08Fiskerhow much?
10:16.12sbWorkfoz: HoH?
10:16.16sb172.90
10:16.28sbor redcoon 179
10:16.32sbavailable
10:16.34Workfozbut apparently I can fit WoW+WoD+WS on my 128 GB C300 after moving D3 and HS and some old screenshots and deleting de_DE for WoW :P
10:16.39FiskerThey're 200€ here
10:16.44Fiskerstill pretty amazing price though
10:16.47sbhttp://www.redcoon.de/B543169-Crucial-MX100-512GB_SSD-mobil-bis-25?refId=geizhals&utm_source=geizhals_de&utm_medium=preisvergleich&utm_campaign=cpc&xtor=CS1-47
10:16.48sboh
10:16.58WorkfozHoH has "yellow", I only order from "green" :D
10:17.00FiskerBut everyone have them stocked to the moon
10:17.12Workfozbut yeah, it'd be redcoon if I was going to order, at the moment
10:17.23Workfozstupid shipping prices, wtb amazon
10:17.29sbyep
10:17.50Workfozit's at 191€ at amazon, but well, they don't even have it in stock, so that price is probably old
10:17.59FiskerYou're not arguing over 5€ are you?
10:18.12Workfozactually, notebooksbilliger has cheaper shipping than redcoon at the same price :D
10:18.14FiskerBecaused I'd paypal that shit just to make you shut up and order it :P
10:18.20WorkfozFisker: ~10€ ;p
10:18.46Workfozand I'll wait, it fits on my 128 GB as is
10:19.04Workfoz(I guess I could have left HS on there, I just like to leave some room)
10:19.31sbso you are even procrastinating when buying stuff? :o
10:19.37Workfozespecially, man
10:20.07WorkfozI spent half a year researching before buying my camera
10:20.22Workfoz4 trips to furniture stores for my desk chair at home
10:21.06Fiskeroh man
10:21.26Fiskerthe 128GB version doesn't even make sense
10:21.34Workfozof the MX100? yeah, it's so slow ;D
10:21.40Workfozbut it's also so cheap
10:21.41FiskerOh not just that
10:21.45Fiskerwell
10:21.52FiskerHere it's barely 20€ apart
10:21.56Fiskerfrom the 256GB version
10:22.00Fiskerlike 80 vs 100€
10:22.02Workfozah, yes
10:22.03quiescensnerf workfoz
10:22.04WorkfozI see now
10:22.10WorkfozI just expected it to be linearily priced
10:22.12Workfozbut it's way off
10:22.33Workfoz0.483 €/GiB where the other two models are at 0.33
10:22.39Workfozthat's pointless indeed
10:22.42quiescensits never linear o.o
10:22.42sberr, linear pricing for hardware? never happened before L:D
10:23.04Workfozin the middle of the specturm? sure
10:23.18Workfozends get exponential, sure
10:23.27Workfozmeh anyway
10:23.28Workfoz:D
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10:23.46Workfozmaybe I can survive without a new ssd until nvme consumer ssds show up ;p
10:23.57Workfoz(which will necessitate a new mainboard, but hey)
10:24.12FiskerWell I don't have time for more hardware
10:24.13nevcairielit doesn't beat my pro anyway, its just an alternative to the evo, so whats the point
10:24.21FiskerAll those watches and tablets this/next month
10:24.52Workfoznevcairiel: errr...m what :D
10:25.08Workfozthat's a random "don't need this" statement out of the blue :p
10:25.17Workfozhow's your hearing? :D
10:25.27nevcairieli dunno, havent talked to anyone yet
10:25.37sboh, what happened?
10:25.42Megalondid your ears dead nev?
10:25.45nevcairielwent to a metal concert :p
10:25.54sbnice :D
10:25.57sbwhich one?
10:26.02nevcairielmetallica
10:26.17WorkfozSMART says "Percent Lifetime Used: 3%"
10:26.25Workfozthis SSD is going to survive me at this rate
10:26.27sboh - i dont like them, but nice anyways :D
10:26.51sbWorkfoz: ssds are getting replace because they are too small not because of failure
10:26.51nevcairielhad slayer as a opening act, was really neat
10:26.57Workfozwoah
10:26.58Workfozreally
10:27.02Workfozthat's neat indeed
10:27.14FiskerMetallica nevcairiel ?
10:27.20sbalso controller should die before nand :D
10:27.24FiskerI thought they were in Denmark at the moment
10:27.26Workfozsb: true for home users, yeah
10:27.30sboh - slayer, they are still alive? :D
10:27.32Workfozsb: what why should the controlelr die
10:27.39Workfozsb: not entirely :\
10:27.49nevcairielsb: they did denmark on tuesday, hamburg on wednesday
10:27.54nevcairieler, Fisker^
10:27.59sbWorkfoz: why do your car electronics die?
10:28.00FiskerYeah I know how it is
10:28.07Workfozsb: ...they... don't?
10:28.32Workfozalso, maybe because they're exposed to extreme conditions: heat, cold, wind, vibration
10:28.57sbanyways, buy. mx100 512gn. now!
10:29.05Workfozthere's no reason to assume a silicon chip will "die" on its own, it's not organic
10:29.10quiescensrain, snow, hail, maybe a bit of lightning
10:29.17Workfozsb: nah, 20 GB free, I'm good! :D
10:29.24nevcairielchips do age slightly, but it'll take ages
10:29.28nevcairielnand should die sooner
10:29.42Workfozwhen it becomes available at amazon maybe
10:29.49Workfozor when it causes other prices to drop even further :D
10:30.02WorkfozI wonder why the SMART "Unaligned Access Count" counter is sky high, though. The partitions are aligned properly last I checked... but that's probably not what that coutner is about
10:30.06nevcairielsomehow i thought the 'foz also had a pro in his system
10:30.12Workfoznah
10:30.18WorkfozI have a Crucial C300
10:30.26Workfozfirst 6G SSD represent!
10:30.38Workfoz(128 GB though, was like 320€ then)
10:30.45nevcairielyou can fit 3 games plus OS in 128gb?
10:30.56Workfozyep
10:31.01Workfozwith 20 GB to spare
10:31.07Megalonsolitair
10:31.08nevcairieli use 110~ with 1 game right now
10:31.08Megalonpinball
10:31.10Megalonand?
10:31.12Kalroth39 games if they're all indie
10:31.19WorkfozMegalon: Hover
10:31.19quiescenselectromigration is supposedly how the electronics could technicallly fail of their own accord
10:31.21nevcairieldo you move program files to another drive or something?
10:31.22quiescensnodnod
10:31.45quiescensalso, i like nev's idea, we should just start calling you *foz
10:31.49Workfoznevcairiel: no, I actually avoided that because it has caused issues for me in the past; but I install most programs on another drive, yes
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10:31.55Workfoz(i.e. manually changing the install path)
10:31.55Megalonmy games are only 50gb, that's with all dem blizz daed geams
10:32.00nevcairielguess that helps
10:32.21nevcairielI install things just on the OS drive, mostly so they also launch fast, and I have a bunch of big stuff like visual studio in 2 versions
10:32.27KalrothI got a 128GB Intel SSD for system + apps and a very cheap 256GB SSD for games
10:32.41WorkfozI guess VS will eat your space for breakfast
10:33.04nevcairieli recycled my old C300 as a second ssd where I put my source code on, since compiling really likes the fast IO
10:33.32WorkfozKalroth: yeah I could try a setup like that... I have 2 more ports on my extra sata controller, and I can fit an SSD wherever
10:33.38Workfoz(no more room for 3.5"'s tho)
10:33.40nevcairielbut yeah, next SSD i buy needs to be sata express with nvme, otherwise its just a waste
10:33.47Workfozhttp://i.imgur.com/gmlxme9.png nevcairiel
10:34.07Kalrothdont really need room for SSDs, at least not in a Desktop case - my second SSD is just hanging on its SATA cable, nothing else
10:34.08sbso how is MX performance compared to evo/pro? :o
10:34.11Workfoz(and I just slimmed down the wow dir from 32 GiB by removing de_DE and moving 3.5 GiB of old screenshots to my WoW archive)
10:34.22Workfozsb: more than good enough, but check out the anandtech review if you want "numbers"
10:34.24nevcairielsb: slightly above evo, or so some people claim, below pro
10:34.54WorkfozKalroth: yeah I move my PC too often to just let it dangling there, but attaching it with 1 screw I could live with :D
10:34.57bluspacecow@Workfoz Updates folder should only be about 7 MB btw
10:35.04sbso no reason to get MX100 then
10:35.05Kalrothmost of the current gen SSDs are almost identical in performance
10:35.10Workfozbluspacecow: which one? WoW?
10:35.19nevcairielhm
10:35.20bluspacecowWorld of Warfcraft -> Updates
10:35.22nevcairielmy temp folder is 11gb
10:35.25nevcairieli should clean that out
10:35.26bluspacecow*Warcraft
10:35.36Kalrothi can't wait to see if that Japanese software hack to triple speeds will be implemented
10:35.41bluspacecowThat’s where Cata migration stuff got stored
10:35.46bluspacecowlike 5 GB of it
10:35.52Workfozbluspacecow: it's 110 MiB for me, not much, but still more than 7, I guess :D
10:36.02bluspacecowlol
10:36.06Workfozregular patches also go there
10:36.06Kalrothhttp://www.neowin.net/news/ssd-breakthrough-means-300-speed-boost-60-less-power-usage-even-on-old-drives
10:36.07sbKalroth: huh?
10:36.08sbah
10:36.14bluspacecowonly needs to have the last build number client patch in there
10:36.22WorkfozKalroth: is that the "works with existing shit, is smarter" thing?
10:36.26Kalrothyup
10:36.29Workfozby not writing into used blocks
10:36.30nevcairieli still question that thing
10:36.37nevcairielsmart ssds already don't do that
10:36.43WorkfozI wonder when somebody is going to pick that up, sounds quite good
10:36.51bluspacecowwow-0-18291-win or wow-0-18291-osx
10:36.53bluspacecowturf the rest
10:36.56nevcairielthats why a concept called over-provisioning exists
10:37.04nevcairielto give the ssd a bit room to manage write operations
10:37.09Kalrothno, over-provisioning is for dying cells
10:37.13Workfozbluspacecow: nuked, thx
10:37.19nevcairielnonsense
10:37.24Workfoznah, over-provisioning is for what nev said, too
10:37.44nevcairielcheck ssd reviews, they test speed consistency with various levels of over-provisioning
10:37.44Workfozcheck out any recent anandtech ssd review, they clearly show the effect of OP on write performance when the SSD is 'dirty'
10:38.16Workfozideally I'd like an SSD that does well in those tests, although I guess, really, for home users, it doesn't matter
10:38.25nevcairieli just OP my disc manually
10:38.34nevcairieljust got a 200gb partition on my 256gb drive
10:38.36Workfozby just not making the partition as big?
10:38.38Workfozyeah
10:38.45Workfozthat's what they do for their graphs, too
10:38.47Workfozhas amazing results, lol
10:38.50nevcairielyea
10:39.00nevcairielbecause it can do exactly what this "breakthrough" suggests
10:39.03nevcairielwhich is why i question it
10:39.05Workfozcorsair neutron gtx (or seagate 600, same controller) does really well in this, the LAMD controller is the bomb
10:39.28Workfozbut sadly the price is totally uncompetitive at the moment
10:40.43Workfoznevcairiel: "FastApps" (yeah I know :P) basically only contains stuff I use daily... TS, Email, browsers, file browser, messengers, media player, audio, irc, editors, image viewers
10:40.44Kalrothhttp://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/minisite/SSD/global/html/about/whitepaper05.html yup, seems like OP is only a paste buffer - it mentions endurance too, but its main purpose is performance
10:40.48Workfozshit I wouldn't want to wait for, ever
10:41.30nevcairielwell it can help with endurance as the ssd can also  mitigate write-amplification
10:41.59WorkfozI wish that techreport endurance test had also had an ssd where they manually overprovisioned
10:42.01Workfozto compare with the others
10:42.18Workfozbut it's already amazing enough that most of them (except the EVO) work flawlessly after 600 TBW
10:42.25Workfozbeing rated for 72 TBW or thereabouts
10:43.13nevcairielthey may lose a bit speed, but that would mean they are already close to the breaking point
10:44.32sbWorkfoz: chatfix addon does work btw - background is now always shown
10:44.42Workfozyeah
10:44.53Workfozapparently the problem is that there used to be two sliders
10:45.05Workfozone for background transparency, and one for mouse-off fade
10:45.24Workfozand they removed the UI for the latter but left the code in and hooked it up to the other?
10:45.34Workfozor something like that. the forum thread describing the addon is funny
10:46.37Workfozhttps://forums.wildstar-online.com/forums/index.php?/topic/61722-addon-chatfixed-default-chat-that-saves-your-settings/
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11:11.09FiskerI still don't get this Kingston HyperX campaign Workfoz
11:11.29FiskerSo if I buy a HyperX SSD I become a coo mutant or what
11:11.34FiskerHow does that work?
11:11.40Workfozyou might
11:11.44Workfozbut I don't know what you're talking about
11:11.53Workfozis it TV ADs?
11:11.58Fiskernah
11:11.59Workfoz(or TV AIDS, same thing)
11:12.02FiskerLOL!
11:12.03Fiskerno
11:12.12FiskerJust banner ads on the internets
11:12.16KalrothROFL
11:12.25Fiskerthey're promo'ing together with X-Men: Days of the Future Past
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11:12.58Fiskerhttp://www.proshop.dk/banner/forsidebanners/house/X-MEN_Proshop_SSD%203K%20banner_490x155_inhouse_MK1406003_DK_0614.jpg
11:14.42KalrothHyperX-Men
11:16.14Workfozpower of X, eh?
11:16.29Workfozprobably unix people
11:16.34Workfozpower of X11
11:17.22FiskerI wonder why they write only in cinemas
11:17.37sbSSD only works in cinemas?
11:19.05Workfozthat's it
11:19.10WorkfozHyper X SSDs are for cinema use only
11:19.19Workfozso if you put one into your PC, it becomes a cinema
11:20.06nevcairieli should get one then
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11:20.53sbor maybe YOU will become a cinema because of the x-gene
11:21.13Workfozomg
11:21.20Workfozcareer change
11:21.33Workfozdoes that mean I can provide popcorn
11:22.37sbhttp://www.golem.de/news/pepper-softbank-bringt-guenstigen-familienroboter-auf-den-markt-1406-106985.html
11:22.39sband so it begins.. :D
11:22.57Fiskerskynet?
11:23.24sbor the "i, robot" thingy
11:23.24nevcairielits rather useless of a robot
11:23.26nevcairielhe can't do shit
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11:26.24Workfozcan he shit?
11:41.11Megalonnope, that's the problem
11:41.18Megalondeath through constipation
11:48.10Workfozthat's shitty
11:48.34Workfozbut ask the Lannisters about digestive issues
12:07.13Megalonmhm
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12:52.12Workfoznevcairiel: so, asrock said "fuck it, let's double down" and put not one but TWO m.2 slots on their mobo http://geizhals.de/eu/asrock-z97-extreme9-a1125377.html
12:52.36Workfozthe second one is not attached to the chipset (at with 2x 2.0 lanes) but directly to the cpu with 4x 3.0 lanes
12:52.50Workfoz(because 2x 2.0 is not fast enough for stuff like the samsung xp941)
12:53.03Workfozobviously cuts into the 3.0 lanes and leaves the GPU with "only" 8
12:53.28Workfozbut 8x 3.0 is what, 40 gbit's per direction? more than enough :D
12:54.50Workfozit's actually 64 Gbit/s, ok
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13:17.33nevcairielWorkfoz: doesnt the standard call for pcie 2.0
13:18.48Workfoznevcairiel: I has no idea. I'd hope that'd be agnostic
13:18.55Workfozi.e. gimme pcie or gimme death
13:19.00Workfoz(but don't bother me with the version number)
13:19.26nevcairielalso, anandtech apparently tested the xp941 on that board http://anandtech.com/show/8045/asrock-z97-extreme6-review-ultra-m2-x4-tested-with-xp941
13:19.42Workfozhuh I thought they tested it on some adapter card from asus
13:19.49Workfozor new review?
13:19.53nevcairielthis is the review of the board
13:19.54Workfoznah, that's extreme6
13:19.57Workfozvs extreme9
13:20.01Kalrothgbit is so old now, we need tbit
13:20.03Workfozor maybe someone typo'd
13:20.15WorkfozKalroth: there you go https://www.de-cix.net/about/statistics/
13:20.30Kalrothi meant on my motherboard
13:20.37nevcairielWorkfoz: the extreme6 a lso has the "ultra m.2" slot, as they call it
13:20.45WorkfozI see
13:20.45Kalrothi already generate several tbit traffic a month myself!
13:21.27WorkfozKalroth: are you storing your cp collection in a bunch of 10 km fiber loops?
13:22.43nevcairielin any case, the performance does actually increase by about 30% in the benchmarks using that slot
13:22.55nevcairieli totally need a extreme edition cpu next for more PCIe powers
13:23.17KalrothWorkfoz: no but i must download every tv show there is
13:23.26Kalrothin best resolution!
13:23.51WorkfozI can dig it
13:24.07Workfoznevcairiel: do they have more lanes? I never realized
13:24.09Kalrothit's very important to download the full Stargate collection in 1080p when the source is a 4:3 VHS tape
13:24.13nevcairielWorkfoz: 40
13:24.21Workfozisn't that what the others have?
13:24.28nevcairielnormal CPU has 16
13:24.29winklol
13:24.33Workfozw00t?
13:24.34Workfozso few
13:24.40Workfozdid they reduce that at some point?
13:24.41nevcairielfor one GPU, or two at 8x each
13:24.52Workfozoh those are just the ones in the cpu right
13:24.54nevcairielwhich is really fine for most people
13:25.05nevcairielyeah
13:25.20nevcairielhow many you give the chipset is really only limited by the connection between chipset and CPU
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13:25.37nevcairieli forget how much bandwidth the DMI link has these days
13:25.43Workfoznever mind, gotta take my break or I'll be breaking the law, breaking the law... breaking the law https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L397TWLwrUU&feature=kp
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13:26.21Fiskeromg nevcairiel
13:26.48nevcairielbut the chipset is also only PCIe 2.0 lanes, of course that wouldn't change the speed  of the DMI connection
13:27.42nevcairielapparently DMI 2.0 is 20Gbit
13:28.22nevcairielor 2GB/s effective
13:28.44nevcairiel(you know, fancy encodings eating extra bits)
13:33.55Fiskerhey nevcairiel
13:34.25nevcairielhey Fisker
13:50.50Stanzillahi
13:51.39Fiskerhttp://images.bit-tech.net/content_images/2014/06/intel-desktop-press-briefing-computex-2014/slide2-1280x1024.png
13:51.40Fisker:o
13:57.24WorkfozNom Nom salad, znf
13:58.31FiskerWhat should I do Stanzilla ?
13:58.37FiskerThere's still a couple of weeks until IO
13:59.12Stanzilladance
14:00.37sbwhy not barb coma?
14:01.33Fiskerbarb coma?
14:02.06sbhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Induced_coma
14:02.22nevcairielnever heard it called barb coma
14:02.50sbsame here :D
14:03.07sbgoogle + got text from wikipedia *shrug*
14:03.30sbmedical terms are weired
14:03.38sbweird
14:05.10FiskerOh I thought it was something cooler than that
14:06.44sbcooler than going to bed and wake up again for IO? :D
14:07.30FiskerNo I was hoping it was like barb as in barbwire
14:07.32Fiskeror barbarian
14:17.40Workfoznice, dat openssl bug
14:18.15Workfozcomplete session takeover
14:18.34Workfoz(only if both sides are openssl 1.0.1 at least, but... what.)
14:18.58nevcairielwell its "only" mitm, which isn't as trivial to pull of, but yeah
14:19.20Workfozmitm isn't trivial to pull off?
14:19.46nevcairielyou need another attack vector first
14:19.57Workfoz"be NSA", "be ISP"
14:20.03Workfozthose two are more than problem enough
14:20.22Workfoz(be wifi access point)
14:20.31Workfozbe proxy server operator :o
14:20.35Workfozall of those give you mitm for free
14:20.36Workfoz^^
14:20.43nevcairielwell i guess
14:20.53Workfozof course you could also mount an extra attack to gain mitm if you don't have it yet, sure
14:20.57nevcairielbut at least no crazy criminals can easily hack your server with it!
14:21.25nevcairielanyhow, now why the hell does my application get a timeout on a web request while my browser can open the url just fine o.o
14:21.34nevcairielwiresharks away
14:22.49Workfoz(because they're not the same application, duh!)
14:23.00Workfozsuch browser, much complex, very settings
14:24.34nevcairieldang response is gzip encoded
14:24.47nevcairielwhy cant wireshark decompress that
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14:28.14bluspacecowhttp://www.reddit.com/r/talesfromtechsupport/comments/27dhrh/encyclop%C3%A6dia_moronica_century_24b_the_spam_filter/
14:28.16bluspacecowlol
14:28.17Workfozit can't? I thought it could
14:29.51nevcairielstupid code is stupid. I can clearly see the request going through in wireshark, but code says it failed
14:29.53nevcairieldebugs
14:37.21StanzillaGnarfoz: http://www.buzzfeed.com/robinedds/game-of-thrones-characters-transported-back-to-the-80s-an
14:37.30Torhalstuffs an entire dog into Workfoz's mouth.
14:37.32TorhalMuch hah.
14:37.36TorhalSo hush.
14:37.43Workfozvery nom
14:37.47Torhal!!!
14:37.50Workfoz:>
14:37.53Workfozbut I just ate
14:37.58Workfozand it was salad!
14:38.04TorhalSo it didn't count!
14:38.18Megaloncan't eat salad
14:38.19FiskerI once ate food
14:38.24Megalondr told me to cut down on the fat
14:38.26WorkfozStanzilla: wow that took a while to reach you via buzzfeed and what other twists and turns it took from imgur weeks ago o_O
14:38.42WorkfozI'm sometimes quite amazed how stuff spreads through the internet like that :D
14:38.45Stanzillasomeone posted it on Fb :D
14:38.58Workfozyou sure saw the GoT 90's intro spoof?
14:39.02MegalonWorkfoz: wait till he link it on heftig.co
14:39.11WorkfozMegalon: bildschirmarbeiter.com
14:39.13Workfozlachschon.de?
14:39.15Workfozwhatev
14:39.48Megalontyrion/bron buddy com is best
14:39.48Megalon:D
14:39.57WorkfozI don't know that one
14:40.00Megalonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kti1zWLvTLw
14:40.01winkStanzilla: no make sense. Sansa has nsync & backstreet boys stickers. in the 80s
14:40.21Megalongame of bros
14:40.34WorkfozI do think that image series was labeled "90s" when I saw it
14:40.51wink80s and 90s, my bad
14:40.56winkthe url.. and I scrolled too fast
14:41.16Workfoznah
14:41.17WorkfozI mean
14:41.24Workfozsomeone seems to have rel-labeled it on the way
14:41.31Workfozit's labeled as 80s on stans link
14:41.40Megalonit's buzzfeed
14:41.48Megalonwho reads that shithole
14:42.05Workfozpeople who are on his facebook
14:42.29nevcairielinteresting, my problem URL is also extremely unreliable in IE
14:42.33nevcairielworks perfectly in chrome
14:42.47nevcairiel... and my app uses the windows http functions, which is really the same as IE
14:42.51Workfozimplementaaaaaatiooooon
14:43.00Workfoz...so you assume, at least
14:43.04quiescensyou broked it!
14:43.17Megalonpunch it
14:43.35Megalonpercussive maintenance solves all them problems
14:43.48Workfozit's... the final solution
14:44.21nevcairieli can also wget it just perfectly
14:44.24nevcairielwtf is wrong with IE
14:44.44Megalonthe IE part is whats wrong with IE
14:44.56nevcairielwell  it usually doesn't mess up this bad anymore
14:49.48winkthere are many facebooks, but this one is mine
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15:02.26Stanzillahttp://www.theverge.com/2014/6/5/5782548/xbox-one-controller-windows-drivers-download
15:02.28Stanzillaorders one
15:04.59nevcairieli think that websites ipv6 is broken
15:05.08nevcairielwonder why chrome doesn't use it
15:06.20Fiskerhail hydra
15:11.10Stanzillanevcairiel: you seem to encounter a lot of broken stuff today
15:11.39nevcairielthats the first thing
15:12.38Fiskeryou encountered me nevcairiel
15:13.14StanzillaI think you can't count nevcairiel
15:13.18Stanzillafirst IE and now chrome
15:13.19Stanzillamakes 2
15:13.42nevcairielchrome magically fixes the problem!
15:13.56Stanzillastill!
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15:14.09nevcairielmaybe it tries both and then switches over
15:18.24Stanzillabtw
15:18.25Stanzillahttp://wow.gamona.de/2014/06/04/werden-die-wiederbelebungsnachwirkungen-verandert/
15:18.27Stanzillalulz
15:18.52nevcairielyou had to mangle your twitter handle? :p
15:19.21Stanzillayeah :(
15:19.36Stanzilla@stanzilla is a indian granny or so
15:24.46nevcairielthey really should've built a way to simply blacklist ipv6 for certain domains or so
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16:03.08Funkeh`https://www.openssl.org/news/secadv_20140605.txt
16:04.09Funkeh`"So it looks like this bug has existed for 15+ years." https://www.imperialviolet.org/2014/06/05/earlyccs.html
16:05.13Funkeh`meanwhile in libressl camp, they are still stripping shit out http://freshbsd.org/search?project=openbsd&q=file.name:libssl
16:06.34FiskerI came Stanzilla
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16:08.13Stanzillawhy this time, Fisker
16:08.37StanzillaFunkeh`: yeah that is pretty "funny"
16:08.57Fiskermoto x+1
16:09.59Fiskerhttp://www.androidpolice.com/2014/06/05/motorola-fixes-the-carrier-id-status-bar-annoyance-in-4-4-3-update-by-making-it-completely-optional/
16:10.14Stanzillayeah I saw that
16:22.12Fiskereverything changed again Stanzilla
16:22.13Fiskerhttp://www.androidpolice.com/2014/06/05/google-announces-project-tango-tablet-development-kit-powered-by-nvidia-tegra-k1-4gb-ram-128gb-storage-1024/
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16:39.35nevcairieli dont need a mega tablet to watch one video every night
16:47.17Fiskerif even that
16:48.03pompyhttp://store.steampowered.com/app/63380/ free for the next 10 mins
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17:01.07GnarfozFunkeh`: that 15 year comment was hilarious, but, as he says justa minute later, it was is own commit from way, way more recently, that made it exploitable
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18:03.17quiescenspoor workfoz
18:05.18znfGnarfoz, ooo, you nom'd salad?
18:11.39Gnarfozznf: ye
18:11.53znfI will nom salad later, too!
18:12.03quiescens\o/
18:12.04znfbut I barely woke up :D
18:12.19quiescensyou can nom breakfast first!
18:12.21znfor, I just woke up*
18:12.25znfwhat's a breakfast?
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18:13.08quiescensgo back to sleep
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18:32.32Gnarfozsrsly twitch
18:32.47Gnarfoznow I spent all this time pimping my setup a bit
18:32.54Gnarfozand now you shit yourself the moment I want to start streaming
18:32.55Gnarfozgz
18:34.35quiescenssilly *foz
18:35.24znfGnarfoz, what'cha usin' ?
18:35.58znffo' streamin'
18:36.12nevcairielOBS with a hardware encoder, i guess
18:36.28nevcairielwell for wow could even use x264, since it doesn't need your CPU
18:37.22Gnarfozwhat nev said
18:37.26Gnarfozobs with nvenc
18:38.19znfI haz no nvenc :(
18:38.22znfbut I haz quicksync!
18:38.43nevcairielonly if the intel gpu is active
18:38.51znfit is, always :)
18:39.04nevcairieldont you have the screen on the amd thingy
18:39.17znfmain screen is on amd
18:39.22znfsecondary screen is on intel
18:39.27nevcairielthen it should indeed work
18:39.48znfI run xbmc on it, usually
18:40.02znfwell, always, not usually :P
18:40.32Gnarfozlet's see if Twich got up from licking the ground
18:43.20Gnarfozgah
18:43.31Gnarfozworked for a minute, then tried to generate an oauth token and it died again
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18:54.24znfboo
19:03.21GnarfozStanzilla: now with stupid cam! http://www.twitch.tv/gnarfoz
19:03.27Gnarfozat least until the sun goes down
19:04.15Stanzillacute
19:05.31FiskerSo for another half an hour?
19:06.28GnarfozFisker: more like an hour
19:07.45Fiskerman where do you live?
19:09.39GnarfozGermany?
19:09.54Gnarfozwell actual sundown might be sooner, but it's not going to be totally dark outside for a while longer
19:10.24Fisker^^
19:10.39Fiskerpratical sundown already in effect here
19:10.46FiskerBut that's mostly because I have curtains
19:10.56Gnarfozlol
19:15.58MihauGnarfoz: Ha, you died.
19:16.06Gnarfozyes :|
19:16.12Gnarfoztoo much IRC
19:16.42MihauYou did attack something around eight enemies at once.  >_>  <_<  With an elite!
19:16.53nevcairielbut he is a tauren
19:17.04nevcairielthey can do that
19:17.33MihauNot an elite chieftain though.
19:18.37GnarfozMihau: was a rare, not an elite
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19:21.00MegalonFailfoz, wtf
19:21.10Gnarfoz5 mobs of +1 level
19:21.12Gnarfoznot a good idea
19:21.36Megalonyour stream lags
19:23.18Gnarfozit's twitch :\
19:23.27Megalonguess so
19:23.36Megalonat least dota2 streams run fine :P
19:28.39Gnarfozwell that'd be disappointing
19:28.51Gnarfozmaybe (who'd hav ethought?) they allocate more b/w to actually popular streams
19:29.00Megalonwatching navi vs dk running fine
19:29.06Megalonyours was buffering all the time
19:29.14Megalonand looked kinda choppy
19:29.27Megalonare you maxing out your upload? :P
19:30.49Gnarfozdoubtful
19:30.52Gnarfoz4mbit encode rate
19:30.54Gnarfoz10 mbit upload
19:31.04Megalonlooks like 5 fps
19:32.02Gnarfozwhat :<
19:32.28Megalonyou stream, open it
19:32.57Gnarfoztwitch won't even load
19:33.04Megalonif that's 30fps
19:33.07Gnarfozso much for blaming me :|
19:33.11Gnarfozmaybe blame dtag
19:33.14Megalonthan nextgen consoles have good graphics
19:33.23Megalonthen :<
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19:35.49znfI tried streaming at 10mbps on twitch
19:35.54znfpoor thing couldn't handle it :(
19:35.57znfworks on youtube, though
19:36.31Gnarfozyeah, OBS recommends a max of 3.5 for twitch
19:36.35Gnarfoz(and so does twitch)
19:36.55znfbut 3.5 with nvenc/quicksync looks like crap :-(
19:38.02Gnarfozapparently
19:38.15GnarfozI think it might be that the keyframe option in obs does nothing for them? nev?
19:38.27Gnarfozthat would certainly lead to blurriness during movement?
19:38.55znfkeyframes shouldn't have that effect, afaik
19:39.00znfbut I don't know enough about video coding :P
19:39.12Megalonyou stream also takes an age to load Gnarfoz
19:39.18Gnarfozlike I said
19:39.27Gnarfoztwitch was having a bad evening before I even started
19:40.59znfso many "music" channels on youtube that are worth following :-S
19:44.12Gnarfozyeah I can see it being all "let me wait for a bit... ah, more frames now... and slow down again"
19:44.18Gnarfozdoubt that's on my end, tho
19:44.25Gnarfozgot nothing to test that theory with either, though
19:56.17StanzillaC
19:56.21GnarfozMegalon: check it
19:56.34Gnarfozturns out it was because people made me switch to x264
20:03.32nevcairieldid you turn down settings now
20:03.40nevcairielor back to nvenc
20:04.35nevcairielnow the stream is buffering all the time, damn twitch
20:05.25nevcairielhrm did the number crush affect xp numbers? those seem really low, but I fail to see how it would affect XP o.o
20:05.26Gnarfoznevcairiel: still x264, but veryfast + main + 3500 kbps
20:05.33Gnarfozfrom x264, fast, high, 4000
20:06.16Gnarfozor whatever the preset 1 slower than veryfast is
20:06.19nevcairielnote that reducing bitrate or profile doesn't necessarily change the performance profile
20:06.19znfGnarfoz, stream to youtube!
20:06.26Gnarfozhow the hell
20:06.50znfI did it once
20:07.08nevcairielyoutube doesn't have proper live streaming, outside of a few very rare circumstances
20:07.22znfwhat do you mean?
20:07.24znfI can live stream
20:08.18znfthis was a live stream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtZobKBTSgE
20:09.07znfGnarfoz, https://www.youtube.com/my_live_events?action_create_live_event=1
20:09.23znfselect "custom" as your type
20:10.33Gnarfoztwitch does look rather ok to me now?
20:10.41Gnarfozno more dropped frames, quality ok?
20:10.49nevcairielyeah its gotten better now
20:10.49GnarfozI'll try yt for fun tho
20:11.24znfsee if the quality is better on youtube and such
20:12.24Gnarfozapparently twitch doesn't support >3500k for non-supported (?) streamers
20:12.35Gnarfozthat's probably why the big fat red suggestion text to not use more than that is in OBS
20:13.17Gnarfoz"You do not have permissions to view this page." znf
20:13.20Gnarfoz@ your link
20:13.38znfow
20:13.44znfyour account is not flagged for it :-/
20:13.52znfwant me to give you a key to test it on my account?
20:14.15Gnarfozsure
20:14.20Gnarfozdoes OBS support that as easily as twitch?
20:14.25znfyeah
20:14.27nevcairielyou need to unlock your account via phone activation
20:15.25nevcairieli tried to test it, but it seems stuck in "preparing, please wait a moment" for a couple minutes now
20:15.37nevcairieltwitch is certainly easier to just use :p
20:16.27znfyeah, it is :P
20:16.38znfdifferent target audience though
20:16.47TorhalGnarfoz: Beeg beard.
20:16.50znfI mean, different "source" audience? :P
20:17.41nevcairieland YT needs an exact resolution match
20:17.48nevcairielcan't stream my odd 1.25x downscale
20:18.08znfhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mh6daw5-SWs when Gnarfoz starts broadcasting :P
20:18.23nevcairielLive Streaming is not available in your country due to rights issues.
20:18.31nevcairielyou forgot to tick the right box to unlock it
20:18.41znfuhm
20:18.56Gnarfozyeah :D
20:19.43znftry now?
20:19.53nevcairielnope
20:20.05Gnarfoznewp
20:20.05Gnarfozsame
20:20.14znfhttp://i.imgur.com/unmIyjC.png
20:20.15znf?!
20:20.25nevcairielmaybe its just generally blocked since they can't analyze their GEMA compliance on live streams
20:20.33GnarfozI'd say nev has the right idea
20:20.35znf:-/
20:20.51nevcairielin before twitch stops working in DE since YT bought it
20:21.40znfthat's a possibility :D
20:26.23znfwell, it works now for non-german people: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mh6daw5-SWs
20:32.54MegalonDieser Stream ist in diesem Land nicht verfügbar
20:32.56Megalon;D
20:40.44Gnarfozback on twitch with the dungeon run http://www.twitch.tv/gnarfoz
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20:43.46znfme jelly of Gnarfoz
20:50.18Gnarfozis there some way to see viewer count and such without visiting my own stream page?
20:50.24Gnarfoz(want to avoid having to play the video)
20:51.55znfGnarfoz, dashboard
20:52.08znfappend /dashboard to your url
20:52.24znflike http://www.twitch.tv/gnarfoz/dashboard
20:52.25znf:)
20:53.18znfso weird to see those small damage numbers :-S
20:56.22znfhttps://www.bonanza.com/background_burner
20:58.54GnarfozStanzilla: didn't you mention level 100 dungeon loot last night?
21:00.50TorhalGnarfoz: I was told to tell you "You're playing the wrong W game."
21:02.35GnarfozI was literally about to quit
21:02.37Gnarfozbut then, dungeon invite
21:04.53StanzillaGnarfoz : yes
21:05.17Gnarfozitem says 100 when rolling
21:05.20Gnarfoz90 in inventory
21:05.26Stanzillayes
21:05.28Stanzillacant equip
21:05.28Gnarfozbut gives an error that you have to be 100 xD
21:05.30Stanzillayes
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21:15.37GnarfozTorhal: I was aware... I'm all good now, phew
21:15.45GnarfozTorhal: who was telling?
21:16.33GnarfozTorhal: and (I swear, last highlight) the beard isn't really all that mighty, it looks very dark/thick on my cheap cam, I don't know why
21:16.58nevcairielGnarfoz is a neckbeard
21:19.01Megalonwere is his fedora
21:19.06Megalonand why isn't he tipping it
21:19.09MegalonTHIS IS OUTRAGEOUS
21:19.31Stanzillastream down
21:19.32StanzillaRIOT
21:20.10Reposkada: 03oscarucb * r561 BarDisplay.lua:  (4 lines trimmed from commit message)
21:20.10RepoFix another minor display glitch
21:20.10RepoWhere under the correct conditions all the bars in a window would appear
21:20.10Repo"shortened" due to an incorrectly high .maxValue for the displayed bargroup.
21:20.10Repobar:SetMaxValue() must be called after bar:SetValue(), otherwise the max cannot
21:22.08Gnarfozhm, missed opportunity, I guess ;p
21:23.27Gnarfoznevcairiel: does main vs. high profile affect cpu usage much?
21:23.45Gnarfoz(and would it have a noticable effect on image quality?)
21:24.18nevcairielthe answer is: it depends
21:24.20Gnarfozhehe
21:24.51nevcairielit enables a bunch of extra features, potentially anyway, but then it depends if the fast profiles even use those
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21:25.24Gnarfozyeah
21:25.39nevcairielif you want to be really sure, encode on the command line and check :D
21:25.50nevcairieli'm too lazy to right now
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21:29.31znfwouldn't twitch re-encode your stream anyway?
21:32.47Gnarfozwhat do you mean?
21:34.20znfI mean, it doesn't really matter what profile you send over
21:34.23znfthey'll re-encode anyway
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21:37.25nevcairielthe original stream should remain untouched
21:37.44nevcairielalso, if you can squeeze more quality  into your bitrate, it also improves the re-encodes
21:38.52Gnarfozwell, meh, at "fast" I was CPU bound with WoD
21:38.59Gnarfozor rather, fast+high+4000
21:39.11nevcairieli dont think the profile makes much of a difference really
21:39.13GnarfozI turned all of them down at the same time, so no idea which one actually matters most
21:39.21GnarfozTorhal: http://imgur.com/iaQYtHQ
21:39.24nevcairielbitrate especially does not matter much
21:39.25GnarfozMegalon: http://imgur.com/UJDOjuz
21:39.38Gnarfozoh wait first one should have gone to you, nevcairiel :D
21:39.44Stanzillanerrrd
21:40.04TorhalGnarfoz: When did you become a demon?
21:40.09Gnarfozyou can't see it on the pic, but that cap is actually signed by wow ui devs! :D
21:40.22GnarfozTorhal: at 17:59 hours
21:40.26TorhalI see.
21:40.33Stanzillathere are wow ui devs?
21:40.38nevcairielused to be
21:40.48Gnarfozthey live in the shdaows
21:40.55Gnarfozyou know, those... with proper spelling
21:42.06TorhalStanzilla: Either that, or there were paid actors at the booth where we had our hats signed.
21:42.23Stanzillado we know some of them
21:42.27TorhalI'm still not sure why I got one, other than it was free. I've never been a hat-wearer.
21:42.50Gnarfozme neither, lol
21:42.53Gnarfozalso it's too small
21:42.58TorhalStanzilla: Dunno.
21:43.00nevcairielthe UI devs don't really show up much anymore, i'm sure some here know them from a bit direct contact
21:43.14Gnarfoz~seen gouillotine
21:43.20purli haven't seen 'gouillotine', Gnarfoz
21:43.24TorhalI know TSquared posts very occasionally on WoWI, and there's also Guillotine.
21:43.25Gnarfozor however you spell him
21:43.34Gnarfoz~seen guillotine
21:43.35purlguillotine <~Guillotin@WoWUIDev/Blizzard/Guillotine> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 213d 2h 42m 28s ago, saying: '~lart foxlit'.
21:43.52Gnarfozwell, at least he has an appropriate line there
21:43.53Gnarfoz:D
21:44.04nevcairieli'm sure Cairenn arranged that
21:44.20TorhalLikely
21:44.24Cairennlol
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21:56.07znfthis is awesome: http://shirt.woot.com/derby/entry/78484/the-king-of-monsters
21:56.10znfI want :-|
22:13.29Megalondiagnose: want
22:13.31Megaloncure: buy
22:14.05znfMegalon, hasn't made it out of the derby yet
22:15.23Megalonth what
22:15.34Megalonoh so a competition, most votes get made
22:15.36Megalonor what
22:15.37znfMegalon, yup
22:15.50znfcommunity submited designs -> get voted -> most popular gets made
22:17.22znf(and the designer gets a cut)
22:25.40Randomsoooooo
22:25.42Randomrandom question....
22:25.46Randomwho wants in the new wow alpha?
22:27.04nevcairielI do
22:27.47Stanzillahi Random
22:27.53StanzillaI want!
22:28.20nevcairielsomehow i thought you were already in Stanzilla
22:28.25Stanzillanot sure
22:28.31Stanzillainvited but not in
22:28.41Randomwhats the difference?
22:28.52nevcairielI wasn't even invited yet, so there!
22:28.54StanzillaI think they do the invites in waves
22:29.12Megalonrpfl
22:29.14Randomyeah they do
22:29.25Randomwhen did you submit your name?
22:29.52Stanzillamid of may I think
22:30.21nevcairieli must've missed the place to submit names to
22:30.43Randomi didnt submit myself i was asked to join and asked if i knew some people who wanted to join lol
22:31.10znfRandom, everyone wants >_<
22:31.10StanzillaI probably know 20 or more people that want :p
22:31.16Randomhahahh
22:31.22Randomznf thats not true
22:31.26Randomi just asked about 30 people all said no
22:31.29Stanzillawtf
22:31.30znfWhat? I want O.O
22:31.32Randombut they were all league of legends players
22:31.44znfLoL players are weirdos! Give invite, kthx!
22:31.49Random[15:28] <@SasCologne> not interested in wow
22:31.51Random[15:28] <@SasCologne> but thx for offer
22:31.52Randomsee
22:31.56nevcairielWell if you want people, name me!
22:32.17Stanzillashould totally hook up my guild for future raid testing!
22:32.27znfwell, Alpha invites for non-wow players are most likely a waste :P
22:32.34Randomhahahahah
22:32.40Randombeta testing games are fun though
22:33.07Randomi jsut got rejected again by a rioter
22:33.16znf*raises hand*
22:33.22znfpick me! and Stanzilla, and nevcairiel
22:33.23Megalon*raises riot*
22:33.27Randomlol
22:33.29znfnot Megalon - he's a dick
22:33.40nevcairielznf: nah, he is just austrian
22:33.41Randomif stan is already on the list i dont think i can submit his name
22:33.44Megaloni have a dick
22:33.53MegalonI AM YOUR FUHRER
22:33.58Randomznf and nev pm me your email related to it and your bnet id and first name
22:34.00Megaloni'll ride your mom into battle
22:34.07Randomplease for the love of god dont send me your password as well
22:34.22nevcairielbut how would you then login and steal my account
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22:34.29Megalon12345
22:34.30nevcairiel:D
22:34.34Megalonoh you said no password, damn
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22:35.57znfI knew somebody who had a password like 132456
22:36.02znfI got it wrong every damn time
22:36.37nevcairielhah thats just evil
22:37.35znfYup, pissed me off every damn time. Was for some shared internal service, can't remember
22:37.43Randomlol
22:44.42nevcairielDid you get my PM then, Random?
22:44.51Randomyep
22:45.09nevcairielwell now I can only hope, thanks for trying!
22:45.22Randomeh you got a 98% chance from my luck with blizzard
22:45.26Randomive been beta testing since diablo 1
22:45.32Megalonnev is the 2%
22:45.38nevcairielwith my own luck, i usually get in, but very very late
22:46.22nevcairielSo any help to that is appreciated ;)
22:47.10Gnarfozso he's kind of legit? ;P
22:47.13nevcairielalso, diablo 1 had a beta? what did they do, mail you discs?
22:47.29nevcairielits not like we had internet back then :P
22:47.33Gnarfozeverything is unfinished at some point
22:47.52StanzillaRandom: can you still invite people for hots?
22:48.20Gnarfozonly nickname choice that would have had me put less trust in that offer would have been "Randomguy" instead
22:48.32nevcairiellol
22:48.52nevcairielI figure, no harm in trying, and he seems decent enough
22:49.21nevcairielmy mail and battle tag aren't exactly secrets
22:49.38Megalonneither are mein
22:49.44Megalonsexyhottie17
22:49.52Gnarfozone of them is part of your login credentials, at least, but meh
22:50.02nevcairielsure, but its plastered all over my addons
22:50.10Gnarfozthat's your own fault :D
22:50.12Gnarfozor choice
22:50.31nevcairieli guess
22:50.36nevcairielbut its only one of 3 parts you need
22:50.53nevcairieland usernames are generally not very secure
22:50.57Gnarfozanyway, is Random your actual nick you go by or did you just pick that for now
22:51.05Gnarfozinquiring minds got to know
22:51.10Randomive had this name since 2003 on freenode
22:51.15Randomactually maybe 1999
22:51.24Randombut it expired when i went to europe for like 6 months
22:51.27Randomso i remade it in 2003
22:51.30MegalonGnarfoz: he's just going with a random name
22:51.33Megalonbadumtiss!
22:51.38GnarfozMegalon: precisely! :P
22:51.41Randomi actually use quite a few random names
22:51.47Randomlike on quakenet i use Me and You
22:51.52GnarfozI see, guess you're not active much here
22:52.00Randomnooooo i go afk for months at a time
22:52.10Gnarfozyour keyboard must feel lonely
22:52.11Randomi had a friend who used to be really active here
22:52.15Randomhis name was sixen
22:52.22nevcairielit kinda feels like i've seen you around before, but my mind may be tricking me
22:52.27nevcairielsixen i remember
22:52.28Gnarfozsure, we know him
22:52.37Randomyeah hes my little peon
22:52.44Randomhe used to be in my clan on battle.net 1.0
22:52.48Megalonyou smack him regularlyß
22:52.55Randomback when he was like 12
22:53.50Randommemories
22:55.11Randommy log for this channel is 70 megs
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22:55.42StanzillaRandom: can you still invite people for hots?
22:55.47Randomi could ask
22:55.52Stanzillawould be neat
22:56.02znfI want hots, too! :D
22:56.05znfwait, no
22:56.10znfI don't. I forgot it's a moba
22:56.11Randomhttp://thebluepill.com/bu/jim.jpg
22:56.14Randomi sent a ton of these
22:56.15Randomto blizzard
22:56.24Stanzillawhy?
22:56.27Randomwhy not?
22:56.35Randomchibi jim raynars
22:56.38StanzillaI mean for what reaon :D
22:56.39Stanzillas
22:56.47Randomto say hey sucka look at us
22:57.10Randomits good marketing
22:57.51Stanzillaindeed
22:58.08znfRandom, some icons are b0rked, btw.
22:58.10Gnarfozfor what, though
22:58.15znfon your website
22:58.18Randomznf i know i just redid the whole layout
22:58.21Randomstill working on a bit of css
22:58.51Gnarfozoh I guess I should have realized what domain the image is on >_>
22:59.01Randomlol gnarfoz
22:59.09nevcairielGnarfoz: you were right in the other channel, you are kinda special
22:59.13nevcairiel:D
22:59.18Gnarfozspecially tired
22:59.22znfhey Stanzilla, you hungry? http://i.imgur.com/udacLp3.jpg
22:59.26Gnarfoz3h tue->wed
22:59.31nevcairielGnarfoz: and its only 1am
22:59.33Stanzillaneat
22:59.35Stanzillawant
22:59.38Gnarfozand because Blizz wanted me to play WoD last night all night
22:59.44Randomdo you guys want any blizzard stuff drawn?
22:59.45Gnarfozanother 3h wed->thu
23:00.01Gnarfozthe burdens of beta invites!
23:00.05nevcairielthat sure looks fatty znf
23:00.14znflet's call it Keto :D
23:00.19znfand ignore the tons of carbs in there
23:00.30Gnarfoztbh at this point I'd probably have enjoyed a HotS flag more than a WoD flag, but whatev
23:00.33Gnarfoz;D
23:00.44nevcairielyou no enjoy WoD?
23:00.58Megalonhe streams at 5fps, no enjoyment there for sure
23:00.59Megalon;<
23:01.01znfGnarfoz, btw, did the new gear had any of the new stats?
23:01.01GnarfozI didn't pay much attention, was occupied with the streaming crap
23:01.04GnarfozMegalon: stfu :D
23:01.06nevcairiellol
23:01.14Gnarfozblame nev for making me switch to x264
23:01.22Gnarfozplease someone shoot me if I play WoD tomorrow again
23:01.33nevcairielyou will and you know it
23:01.34Gnarfozweekend should be all Wildstar :P
23:02.20Gnarfozznf: *have; erm... yeah some pieces had multistrike
23:02.28Gnarfozbut multistrike is "old" new stats
23:02.40nevcairielthe new-new stats may not even be in yet
23:02.42Gnarfozdidn't see any versatility
23:02.54Gnarfozyeah, quite possible
23:03.00znfThat versatility thingie sounds so... weird :-/
23:03.03Gnarfozcan't wear the dungeon loot anyway, lol
23:03.12znfI have mixed feelings about it.
23:03.17nevcairielversatility is pretty straight forward, not sure whats so weird about it
23:03.24nevcairieljust flat % increases
23:04.05nevcairielseems like the pvp stat of choice due to the increased endurance
23:04.27znfI'm just not used on having such a thing, I guess :P
23:04.51znfCurious as how it will work out. I think that some specs will favor it over anything else
23:04.59nevcairielthe new leech seems interesting for healers, although in the end probably quite minor
23:05.09znfwell, "minor" stats :)
23:05.10Repoarl: 03Torhal 07master * 3.0.0-1-gc8c2f12  (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Fixed issue that prevented the Smelting profession module from loading.
23:05.14nevcairielznf: some specs always find some stat to favor
23:05.30znfI would love some leech as a shadow priest... I miss having passive VE :P
23:05.33nevcairielsome favor haste, some crit, some mastery, some versatility, maybe some even multistrike
23:05.52Repoarl: 03Torhal 043.0.1 * 35c4c9e /: [new tag]
23:06.09znfbtw, do we know what the gems in WoD will have as stats?
23:06.15znfor, how will they work?
23:06.17nevcairielsecondary only, they s aid
23:06.23nevcairieland very few sockets
23:06.29znfso they will be stats increases
23:06.43znfnot special procs/effects
23:08.04znfOnly thing that is in the db so far about gems is http://wod.wowhead.com/item=111294
23:08.17nevcairiel"All gems will grant secondary stats, including Spirit and Bonus Armor (see below)."
23:08.28nevcairielfrom http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/10703970357
23:08.38znfMissed that
23:08.57nevcairielalso, no gem socket bonus, but they may want to make a color match mandatory instead
23:09.54znfwonder if we will still have orange/green/purple gems that fit more than one socket
23:10.09nevcairieland you know, sockets are not an inherent property of an item, but a random roll like warforged
23:10.52znfI know
23:10.55nevcairielgem dudes will seriously need a new income stream
23:11.05*** join/#wowace webturtle0 (~webturtle@d28-23-204-97.dim.wideopenwest.com)
23:11.26nevcairielnot that I care, never could make much money with alchemy, stupid raw materials are usually better to sell
23:11.41znfpotions are a money maker on my realm :P
23:11.45znfalways have been
23:12.06znfbuy herbs for something like ~3g (for one potion), sell potion for at least 5g/ea
23:12.22nevcairielnever worked on my old realm
23:12.26nevcairieldidnt really check on the new one
23:12.46znfhttps://eu.theunderminejournal.com/category.php?realm=H-Kazzak&category=alchemy
23:13.41nevcairielmy old realm: https://eu.theunderminejournal.com/category.php?realm=A-Antonidas&category=alchemy
23:13.45nevcairielmostly everything red
23:13.55nevcairielsurprisingly the agi potion is green right now
23:14.24znfouch :P
23:14.44nevcairieland on the new one; https://eu.theunderminejournal.com/category.php?realm=A-Zirkel%20des%20Cenarius&category=alchemy
23:14.51nevcairiela bit of profits would be there, i guess
23:14.52znfIf you're smart about patches, on my realm you can make a few k on raid days
23:15.20znfand having potion master makes some decent income
23:15.26znfit just takes so damn long to make stacks of potions
23:15.32*** join/#wowace kagaro (~kagaro@cpe-173-095-140-190.nc.res.rr.com)
23:15.32znfsomething like ~7 minutes for 120 :-|
23:15.46nevcairieli think i'm elixir master for flasks right now, but there is really no money in flasks anymore, so maybe i should swap spec
23:16.57nevcairielwell, for the xpac then, right now its all pretty dead
23:16.58Stanzillaonly one elexir master now anyway
23:17.10nevcairiel"one"?
23:17.18Stanzillabecause you said for flasks
23:17.39nevcairieli'm still confused
23:17.52znfHmm, so, weird off-topic question, reading a thread on reddit and commenting on got me thinking: Are there people who still don't shower daily? :-/
23:18.08Stanzillathere is only flask pot and transmutation now
23:18.20Stanzillaflask being called elixir
23:18.26znfin civilized places, I mean, where you get running water and such
23:19.02nevcairielthere always only was elixir, pot and transmute
23:19.08nevcairieli'm still confused what you're really saying :D
23:19.27nevcairieland flasks proc'ed with elixir mastery
23:19.49Stanzilla∙ nevcairiel: i think i'm elixir master for flasks right now, < just saying that elixir is flask :(
23:19.50znfStanzilla misunderstood
23:19.51Stanzillanvm I guess!
23:20.02znfhe's an elixir master /because/ of flasks :P
23:20.10Stanzillaok
23:20.13nevcairielI was saying that I was elixir master for the flask procs
23:20.17Stanzillaok
23:20.32znfand Stanzilla was saying that flask procs are the only reason to go elixir master these days :P
23:20.44znfie: there's no other benefit over transmute/potion master
23:20.46nevcairielkinda always was
23:20.54znfexactly his point  :D
23:20.59nevcairielwho uses elixirs
23:21.01znfputs words into Stanzilla's mouth
23:21.07nevcairielthere was a time when two elixirs were more powerful
23:21.09nevcairielbut thats long ago
23:21.24znfI think some tanks used extra-armor in 5.0 for hc content
23:21.28znfor was that in cataclysm?
23:21.31znfcan't remember
23:21.42nevcairieli guess at a time when no matching flask existed, yeah
23:22.04nevcairielbut anyway, respecing alchemy isn't all that complicated
23:22.14znfnot anymore  :P
23:22.35nevcairielif they changed it, i probably dont even know what to do
23:22.40nevcairielit never really was  complicated
23:22.40znfI chose pot master because I figured that I don't make/use as many flasks as I do with potions
23:22.56znfI can always bother a guildie once every 2-3 months for a few stacks of flasks.
23:23.02nevcairielvisit npc- deliver a few thingys, done
23:23.13znfBut I wouldn't want someone to waste 10-15 minutes to craft me that many potions :P
23:23.30nevcairieli'm surprised, i figured you would have no problem doing that
23:23.47znfUhm, no...
23:23.54znfThing is, I craft shitloads of potions for my personal use.
23:24.07znfusually in the first ~2 weeks of the expansion I make a full guild bank tab
23:24.28nevcairielits not like crafting is a lot of effort, it just takes time to finish
23:24.32znfYup
23:24.38znfaround 7 minutes for 120 potions :P
23:24.43Megalonhey znf and nev, time to watch a quick tutorial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnzk3oViSCI
23:24.47znfor, actally, I think 240
23:24.56znf(I make them in batch of 12 stacks)
23:25.02nevcairielnot like .. milling or prospecting..
23:25.19nevcairieli hope they have an npc for that in the garrison
23:25.26nevcairielshove stacks of shit in, get stuff back out
23:25.35znfI posted that as an idea ages ago
23:25.39znfHave engineers make a "blender"
23:25.45znfUse "blender" with full stacks
23:26.09znflike a container - open the "blender", throw in stacks of herbs, use it, get the results back :P
23:26.20nevcairielcontainer would be a lot of new functionality
23:26.36znftrue
23:26.43nevcairielbut who knows, maybe the garrisons will do something about it
23:26.46Megalonthen just make item let you craft 10 at a time
23:26.52Megalonor 20
23:27.08znfprofession UI should be a bit smarter when using large quantities
23:27.23znflet's say you make 20x, should craft in something like 5x
23:27.31nevcairielthe big problem is milling and prospecting, since the game doesn't know which herbs you want to destroy, they couldn't automate that
23:27.34znfbut that would probably be problematic for people who press the wrong button
23:27.48Megalon20 at a time at 5x the speed or so
23:28.07nevcairielthings that just take long but work on their own really dont bother me that much
23:28.09znfCrap. I forgot to get eggs. No eggs in my salad :(
23:28.33Megalonbut at least you got meat in it
23:28.56znfyeah, I do
23:29.03znfI baked some chicken breast ^^
23:33.37StanzillaI want human female breast
23:43.50Semlarthat got dark fast
23:44.55Megalondepends on the breast really
23:50.42znf...
23:51.07Megalonare you watching the tutorial znf??
23:51.21znftotally
23:51.28Megalonwhat if you get locked in a room and the only way to exit it, is to solve a petaminx
23:51.29Megalongood
23:57.54znfStanzilla wants this http://i.imgur.com/H6yQO2O.jpg
23:57.55znf:D
23:59.04Stanzillawtf

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