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| 00:28.54 | znf | http://tweetping.net/ |
| 00:28.58 | znf | This is awesome! |
| 00:30.08 | Neffi | Now make one that shows kids on xboxlive calling my mother a whore |
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| 00:33.41 | Gnarfoz | I can't believe tweet volume is really that low |
| 00:35.13 | znf | EU is sleeping :P |
| 00:35.35 | Gnarfoz | so? |
| 00:36.10 | znf | this thing would make an awesome wallpaper |
| 00:36.19 | znf | with the blips fading completely in ~2 hours or so |
| 00:36.29 | Gnarfoz | do it |
| 00:36.40 | Gnarfoz | Windows 95 active desktop |
| 00:36.44 | znf | heh |
| 00:37.21 | znf | look at the west coast :D |
| 00:37.45 | znf | the middle of USA is quiet |
| 00:37.53 | znf | then there's east coast lightning up |
| 00:37.57 | znf | beautiful :P |
| 00:38.46 | znf | if you inspect the document with Chrome, you can get an idea how fast the tweets go |
| 00:40.03 | Gnarfoz | of course middle of US is quiet |
| 00:40.06 | Gnarfoz | nobody lives there |
| 00:40.06 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 00:40.47 | znf | I'm trying to figure out the websocket url |
| 00:40.51 | znf | but I'm failing :( |
| 00:43.30 | znf | who the hell is tweeting from down there?! http://i.imgur.com/6U9ogqZ.png |
| 00:44.34 | Gnarfoz | researchers? |
| 00:44.47 | Gnarfoz | also, people who fake their geolocation data |
| 00:45.23 | Gnarfoz | shiiit need to go to bed |
| 00:45.30 | Gnarfoz | dentist at 08:30 |
| 00:45.31 | Gnarfoz | >_< |
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| 00:47.48 | znf | what's there? http://i.imgur.com/EzQp1I1.png |
| 00:48.27 | znf | Oh. Guam. |
| 00:48.32 | znf | Active little place! |
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| 01:04.55 | znf | Torhal, you should totally write a new Auditor-like addon! |
| 01:21.04 | Gnarfoz | wow, I actually found the old train ticket from 2010 when I was looking for an apartment |
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| 02:03.59 | quiescens | moo |
| 02:04.19 | quiescens | how do you know it was a train ticket from when you were looking for an apartment |
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| 03:40.16 | Repo | skada: 03oscarucb * r554 (2 files in 2 directories): (3 lines trimmed from commit message) |
| 03:40.16 | Repo | Make data collection state more transparent to users |
| 03:40.16 | Repo | "Disable while hidden" option now prints a console message when data collection is being automatically disabled or reenabled. |
| 03:40.16 | Repo | Also add a "disabled" indicator to the BarDisplay title bar when you are looking at the current or total set while collection is disabled. |
| 03:40.16 | Repo | Together these should hopefully reduce user confusion as to why data collection is not happening. |
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| 06:58.04 | bluspacecow | I see that Verbal Diarrea person is talking in #wowuidev again |
| 07:01.26 | Xuerian | bluspacecow: It's ok, we have znf |
| 07:02.39 | Megalon | is znf the antidote or #wowace's Verbal Diarrea person? |
| 07:03.50 | bluspacecow | oh thank god for znf’s |
| 07:03.54 | bluspacecow | *fondles znf* |
| 07:08.02 | Humbedooh | mmm |
| 07:11.44 | nevcairiel | anyone have any clue when watchdogs unlocks? all i can find is "today", but no time |
| 07:12.12 | Xuerian | nevcairiel: Judging by my friends list https://db.tt/jqj6pVCT |
| 07:12.27 | nevcairiel | my steam still says unreleased =( |
| 07:12.37 | Xuerian | stop being yuropoor? |
| 07:12.41 | Xuerian | Duno :| |
| 07:12.51 | nevcairiel | we live in the future compared to the US, psh |
| 07:13.38 | Xuerian | I think it unlocked at 2am -5gmt, do the math? |
| 07:13.48 | Xuerian | Mostly cause I'm bad at it |
| 07:14.23 | nevcairiel | steam says approx. one hour |
| 07:14.44 | nevcairiel | still weird that it unlocks middle of the night for the US, and we have to wait until 10am |
| 07:15.26 | Xuerian | Weird that it unlocks at 10am on a workday for eu, to me |
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| 07:16.17 | sbdroid | Morning |
| 07:16.51 | Xuerian | o/ |
| 07:17.11 | sbdroid | I need to set up quassel :/ no backlog here |
| 07:21.07 | sbdroid | No workfoz around? :p |
| 07:22.59 | Megalon | he dead |
| 07:23.14 | Megalon | noa known as deadfoz :( |
| 07:24.29 | sbdroid | When did he go to sleep this time? :D |
| 07:24.47 | Xuerian | He was up about four hours ago |
| 07:25.21 | sbdroid | Lol |
| 07:26.53 | Timmeh | oh bah, a 500GB Samsung 840 EVO came by on one of those Dutch sale sites for 209 EUR yesterday |
| 07:26.56 | Timmeh | and I missed it! |
| 07:26.56 | Timmeh | I blame nevcairiel |
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| 07:40.03 | Megalon | 217€ on amazon.de Timmeh |
| 07:40.16 | Megalon | if you can live with the extra 8€ ;o |
| 07:40.32 | Timmeh | o.o |
| 07:40.51 | Timmeh | hao be dat cheap! |
| 07:41.15 | Megalon | http://www.amazon.de/dp/B00E3W19MO/ |
| 07:41.20 | Timmeh | did prices like drop overnight? I thought yesterday it was more expensive >_> |
| 07:41.28 | Timmeh | or maybe I just have to wake up still? <_< |
| 07:41.48 | Megalon | http://geizhals.at/?phist=977941 |
| 07:41.56 | Timmeh | hm |
| 07:42.03 | Timmeh | I probably just have to wake up still then |
| 07:42.05 | Megalon | no huge drops lately, guess you should wake up :P |
| 07:42.18 | Timmeh | I still blame nevcairiel either way |
| 07:43.18 | chiel | morning homies |
| 07:43.25 | Megalon | nothing wrong with that |
| 07:43.30 | chiel | it's almost like you guys haven't stopped talking since I left yesterday |
| 07:44.38 | Megalon | we just returned to talking about ssds chiel |
| 07:44.47 | chiel | hahaha |
| 07:44.50 | chiel | exactly |
| 07:45.05 | Megalon | before that we our only talking points were your whereabouts |
| 07:45.11 | Megalon | you were missed |
| 07:45.18 | chiel | awhh<3 |
| 07:46.04 | Timmeh | chiel: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3Riq3 |
| 07:46.09 | Timmeh | that's what my stuff currently looks like |
| 07:46.14 | Timmeh | well |
| 07:46.22 | Timmeh | what my order currently looks like |
| 07:46.26 | Timmeh | I don't have the stuff yet :_P |
| 07:46.33 | Timmeh | nor have I ordered it yet |
| 07:46.34 | Timmeh | >_> |
| 07:47.01 | nevcairiel | its..in dollars |
| 07:47.07 | Timmeh | http://nl.hardware.info/wensenlijst/563490/thr/wishlist |
| 07:47.08 | Timmeh | no it aint |
| 07:47.09 | Timmeh | ! |
| 07:47.23 | Megalon | its..in dutch |
| 07:47.27 | chiel | ooooh i got paid btw! |
| 07:47.34 | chiel | i'm rich! |
| 07:47.34 | Timmeh | Dutch ftw |
| 07:47.41 | nevcairiel | if you havent ordered it yet, whats there to blame for the new ssd offer you found |
| 07:47.43 | Timmeh | chiel: no, you're chiel |
| 07:48.16 | Timmeh | nevcairiel: have to find some reason to blame you |
| 07:48.23 | Timmeh | nevcairiel: + the offer is already gone |
| 07:49.09 | Timmeh | but the offer didn't turn out to be too special anyway |
| 07:50.09 | chiel | i'll look in a moment, standup atm |
| 07:51.28 | sbdroid | Ffs, go to sleep chiel |
| 07:51.40 | sbdroid | Too much text for Android |
| 07:51.54 | Megalon | this is not the sbdroid you were looking for |
| 07:53.03 | chiel | lol :p |
| 07:53.13 | chiel | Timmeh: so the crucual m550 was the best, in the end? |
| 07:53.44 | nevcairiel | ooh, watch doge unlocked |
| 07:54.01 | Megalon | much watch, wow, such hack |
| 07:54.18 | Timmeh | from all things I read, there was near-0 difference in speeds, lifespan and reliability, but the fact remains that the M550 uses MLCs whereas the 840 EVO uses TLCs |
| 07:54.43 | nevcairiel | didnt you find equal info that the samsung controller makes up for that fact? :p |
| 07:54.48 | Timmeh | yes |
| 07:54.56 | Timmeh | but there's also 0 price difference |
| 07:55.07 | sbdroid | nevcairiel tell me if it's fun. Thinking about buying |
| 07:55.13 | nevcairiel | also, samsung has rapid mode, rapid mode is teh awesome |
| 07:55.30 | sbdroid | Buy all the games |
| 07:55.39 | sbdroid | Play none |
| 07:57.50 | chiel | so what was the difference between the 840 evo and the 840 pro? |
| 07:58.05 | Timmeh | 200 EUR |
| 07:58.11 | chiel | right yes |
| 07:58.12 | chiel | :D |
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| 07:58.22 | nevcairiel | the pro is better |
| 07:58.27 | nevcairiel | faster, more reliable |
| 07:58.27 | Timmeh | 200 EUR better |
| 07:58.31 | chiel | well, for that price it fucking better be :p |
| 07:59.09 | nevcairiel | short of PCIe SSDs, the pro is still pretty much the top |
| 07:59.41 | chiel | alright so... now all that remains is getting a cpu cooler |
| 07:59.51 | Timmeh | Cooler Master Hyper 412S |
| 07:59.58 | chiel | i'm kinda tempted to get one of those that has a huge cooling radiator thingy hanging at the top of the case |
| 08:00.04 | Timmeh | cheap and good |
| 08:00.41 | Timmeh | actually I should double-check whether that fits on a socket 1150 |
| 08:00.43 | Timmeh | I guess it does |
| 08:00.59 | Timmeh | but that's still a leftover from my older order :-P |
| 08:01.39 | chiel | http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-cpu-cooler-h100i <- that's kinda what i want |
| 08:03.36 | chiel | but is is $100, so |
| 08:04.16 | chiel | anyone, now that i know how much i have gotten paid, i can be a bit more realistic about what stuff i want :p |
| 08:07.16 | sbdroid | bbl, work. Hello ffm! |
| 08:08.07 | chiel | http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3RLwj <- so that's what i have atn |
| 08:08.10 | chiel | atm * |
| 08:10.49 | Timmeh | that's nice, identical performance to my picks, but 200 USD more expensive :-P gj! |
| 08:10.59 | Neffi | chiel: you can save a lot of money by not getting such an expensive motherboard |
| 08:11.11 | Timmeh | or CPU cooler |
| 08:11.16 | Timmeh | or case |
| 08:11.44 | Neffi | Yeah, no reason for an H100i if you got a chip that can't overclock |
| 08:12.05 | chiel | fair enough :) |
| 08:12.13 | Neffi | If your goal is to get an AIO for quiet operation, get an H60 |
| 08:12.26 | chiel | yea, i do want this thing to be quiet :p |
| 08:12.36 | chiel | and i know the case is pretty expensive... but i like it :p |
| 08:12.39 | Neffi | An H60 is overkill for stock clocks, so you'll be good |
| 08:12.51 | chiel | cool, i will do that |
| 08:13.09 | Neffi | Case is a matter of taste. But that motherboard is way more than you need. You can shave off $100 right there, and get any decent Asus or Gigabyte |
| 08:13.34 | Neffi | Rule of thumb is: if you think you need an awesome expensive motherboard, you don't |
| 08:13.41 | chiel | hahaha :p |
| 08:13.52 | nevcairiel | not everyone worries about $100 though =P |
| 08:14.02 | chiel | so well the thing is... |
| 08:14.08 | chiel | i got fired about a month ago |
| 08:14.12 | chiel | and i just got my fuck off bonus |
| 08:14.19 | chiel | which was 3 months worth of pay + vacation money etc |
| 08:14.55 | chiel | that's the only reason why i'm even considering buying a new pc to begin with :p |
| 08:15.11 | chiel | i do want the option to grab another graphics card in the future though for sli |
| 08:15.41 | chiel | so i am curious if i should get a slightly more powerful psu, or if this one will suffice? |
| 08:15.53 | nevcairiel | could go for the 860 to be safe for sli |
| 08:15.57 | chiel | feels to me like it should suffice, but what do i know |
| 08:16.04 | nevcairiel | not sure the price diff is taht big |
| 08:16.05 | Neffi | If you're not interested in overclocking, you don't need a Z97 board either. You can probably get away with a ~$100 board |
| 08:16.49 | nevcairiel | I really don't like penny-pinching on PC components, they just don't build that great boards with the cheap chipsets :p |
| 08:16.55 | chiel | nevcairiel: price diff is negligible |
| 08:17.09 | chiel | Neffi: i'm interested in it, it's just not something i've ever done myself before :p |
| 08:17.33 | Timmeh | I'm going to look at it a little bit, just to see if I got lucky (again) with a good version :-P |
| 08:17.41 | Neffi | With newer Intel chips it's relatively easy. You're already going for a good cooler and PSU, so that's covered. |
| 08:18.12 | nevcairiel | except the OC-capable CPU of the new generation isn't out yet :p |
| 08:18.15 | Neffi | You still only need to drop like $150 tops on a motherboard to get an appreciable overclock |
| 08:18.43 | nevcairiel | one doesn't buy a sabertooth for its features, because it really doesn't have that many "special" features :p |
| 08:18.44 | Neffi | Yeah, you'll have to trade the 4790 for a 4770K to overclock, or wait for the refreshed K models "Devil's Canyon" |
| 08:19.02 | Timmeh | nevcairiel: you can change the FSB (or whatever the name is nowadays) right? just not multiplier? |
| 08:19.05 | Timmeh | or is that different nao? >_> |
| 08:19.12 | nevcairiel | cant really touch the fsb anymore |
| 08:19.16 | Neffi | Timmeh: You can by about 5% at most, but you dont |
| 08:19.20 | Timmeh | hm |
| 08:19.37 | Neffi | It'll probably lead to stability problems. Nowadays, you set the multiplier and be done |
| 08:19.43 | nevcairiel | thats why you get a unlocked CPU and just bump the multiplier up to the wazzoo |
| 08:20.28 | Timmeh | I currently have a E6750, locked multiplier as well, 8x333 by default (2.66GHz), has been running since 2007 at 8x430 (3.44 GHz) with a voltage increase of a whole +0.00625V |
| 08:20.50 | nevcairiel | in any case, the sabertooth isn't a maximum feature board, its a high-reliability/high-durability board, if you value that there is no cheapo alternative without giving that up. if its worth it is another question |
| 08:21.29 | Timmeh | going up to 3.6GHz made me have to increase the Voltage a bit much, making my cooler quite.. loud.. >_> |
| 08:22.26 | Neffi | nevcairiel: but why does a motherboard need armor? .... |
| 08:22.35 | Timmeh | Neffi: because warrior |
| 08:22.50 | nevcairiel | improved thermals and dust protection, presumably |
| 08:23.08 | Neffi | Allegedly |
| 08:23.14 | chiel | assumably! |
| 08:23.19 | chiel | sorry i just wanted to weigh in |
| 08:23.21 | nevcairiel | the armor isn't the only thing, it also has a reinforced backplate and higher quality components |
| 08:23.36 | Timmeh | assertedly! |
| 08:24.27 | Timmeh | so anyway |
| 08:24.43 | Timmeh | with the current non-K CPUs, even a bit of mild overclocking is basically a no-go? |
| 08:24.46 | Neffi | chiel: Look at the ASUS Z97-A |
| 08:24.48 | Timmeh | you need the multiplier for that? |
| 08:24.55 | nevcairiel | pretty much Timmeh, yes |
| 08:25.02 | Timmeh | kk |
| 08:25.04 | Timmeh | good to know |
| 08:25.14 | Timmeh | then I'm definitely not going for some more special cooler :-P |
| 08:25.16 | Neffi | chiel: Looks like a great board for overclocking. Has SLI support. 2 PCI-E x16 slots. Good brand. ~$100 cheaper than the Saberlulz |
| 08:27.15 | chiel | Neffi: i'll have a look :) |
| 08:27.56 | bluspacecow | can’t find my other sock to wash |
| 08:27.59 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:28.05 | Humbedooh | :( |
| 08:28.05 | nevcairiel | check your feet? |
| 08:28.06 | Humbedooh | ): |
| 08:28.13 | Humbedooh | cows don't have feet |
| 08:28.21 | chiel | check your hooves? |
| 08:28.21 | nevcairiel | then why does he have socks |
| 08:28.26 | Humbedooh | cows have claws |
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| 08:29.01 | chiel | Neffi: but i'll be honest, half the reason i was thinking of the sabertooth is cause i can :p |
| 08:29.04 | chiel | i know i don't *need* it |
| 08:29.07 | bluspacecow | because |
| 08:29.09 | bluspacecow | http://idontthinkyouunderstand.tumblr.com/page/535 |
| 08:29.15 | bluspacecow | nope wrong link |
| 08:29.16 | chiel | but since i have some monies to spend atm, it's very tempting :p |
| 08:29.23 | bluspacecow | http://www.metservice.com/towns-cities/hamilton |
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| 08:29.24 | Neffi | Sorry, it has 3 PCI-E x16, but one of them is a 2.0 fed by the northbridge, so that doesnt count for graphics cards ;) |
| 08:29.29 | chiel | such emo xD |
| 08:29.37 | chiel | haha ok :p |
| 08:29.38 | bluspacecow | -2 celsius tonight :( |
| 08:29.46 | chiel | i don't know all that much about computer hardware, in all honesty |
| 08:30.09 | Timmeh | or about anything |
| 08:30.22 | Neffi | If you have money to blow, you can always go for a bigger/better monitor, nice mechanical keyboard, nice gaming mouse, better GPU, etc. A $250 mobo is such a bad place to waste it |
| 08:30.37 | chiel | Timmeh: yes :p |
| 08:30.53 | chiel | Neffi: i just bought a new mouse, and i have a dell U2711 which is a really nice screen :) |
| 08:31.19 | nevcairiel | the difference in europe is just 50 € between z97-a and sabertooth mark 1 |
| 08:31.36 | nevcairiel | and sabertooth mark 2 is just 10 € more then z97-a |
| 08:31.41 | nevcairiel | for better components, i would get that :p |
| 08:31.56 | chiel | the mark2, you mean? |
| 08:32.04 | Neffi | Define better components? Most likely it's the same board |
| 08:32.35 | nevcairiel | it has better caps chokes and mosfets |
| 08:32.53 | Timmeh | supposedly! |
| 08:33.01 | nevcairiel | no, thats a fact |
| 08:33.04 | Neffi | It probably does. And it's almost definitely overkill ;) |
| 08:33.04 | nevcairiel | if it matters, who knows |
| 08:33.06 | nevcairiel | but for 10 |
| 08:33.10 | nevcairiel | i would go for it :p |
| 08:33.14 | Timmeh | I would get it for 10 EUR as well, yea |
| 08:33.17 | Timmeh | I was just being annoying :-D |
| 08:33.20 | chiel | xD |
| 08:33.30 | Neffi | Well you're lucky then. Because it's literally $100 more over on this side of the sea |
| 08:33.41 | nevcairiel | check the mark 2 without the thermal armor |
| 08:33.43 | nevcairiel | its much cheaper |
| 08:33.54 | Neffi | Ah yes, that one's $40 more |
| 08:34.40 | chiel | only 10 euros over here, it seems |
| 08:35.21 | Neffi | Go for it, then |
| 08:35.54 | bluspacecow | 12http://i.imgur.com/hXAIm4k.jpg |
| 08:35.59 | bluspacecow | *quacks at Mr Duck* |
| 08:36.04 | chiel | ok i lied, the difference is 15 euros :p |
| 08:36.07 | nevcairiel | the only thing it lacks is SATA Express, if you want that kind of thing |
| 08:36.27 | chiel | that's for hot-pluggable drive, right? |
| 08:36.31 | Timmeh | no |
| 08:36.34 | Timmeh | that's eSATA |
| 08:36.35 | nevcairiel | no, thats for faster sata drives |
| 08:36.40 | chiel | oh right |
| 08:36.47 | nevcairiel | but drives dont really exist yet |
| 08:36.48 | Timmeh | SATA-Express is SATA-over-PCI-Express |
| 08:36.50 | nevcairiel | so you device |
| 08:36.53 | nevcairiel | decide* |
| 08:36.59 | Timmeh | divide* |
| 08:37.07 | chiel | ah i see |
| 08:37.18 | chiel | http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Z97A/ does have that |
| 08:37.37 | Timmeh | I guess technically the battle isn't over yet between M.2 and SATA-Express? |
| 08:37.47 | nevcairiel | there is no battle |
| 08:37.58 | Timmeh | well, I don't see why both will survive in the end |
| 08:38.05 | nevcairiel | M.2 is just a connector, it supports both SATA and SATA Express |
| 08:38.24 | nevcairiel | while you can also connect SATA Express with a cable |
| 08:38.29 | Timmeh | oh I thought M.2's PCIe link was different from SATA-Express |
| 08:39.13 | Neffi | If it were, M.2 would probably win. It's already appearing on a lot of good boards, and it's more suitable for laptops |
| 08:39.26 | Timmeh | iMay be wrong anyway |
| 08:39.42 | nevcairiel | "While M.2 PCI-Express uses the same PCI-Express protocol as SATA Express, it drops the ‘SATA’ namesake to avoid confusion. " |
| 08:39.53 | nevcairiel | or in your case, cause confusion! |
| 08:39.54 | Timmeh | ah |
| 08:40.01 | Timmeh | ! |
| 08:40.17 | Timmeh | pretty sure I read it somewhere though |
| 08:40.23 | Timmeh | the internets lied to me :-( |
| 08:40.56 | nevcairiel | M.2 PCIe SSDs will probably start to be big second half of this year |
| 08:41.00 | nevcairiel | now that so many boards adopt it |
| 08:41.22 | nevcairiel | well, at least in the enthusiast market |
| 08:42.00 | chiel | http://nl.hardware.info/wensenlijst/707352/geen_username/dundundunnnn <- something like that, then |
| 08:42.10 | Timmeh | is the 6 Gb/s already bottlenecking current SSDs? |
| 08:42.53 | chiel | what do you guys think? :) |
| 08:43.07 | Timmeh | I think it's similar to mine, so it looks good? :-P |
| 08:43.08 | nevcairiel | Timmeh: yes |
| 08:43.21 | Timmeh | nevcairiel: alright |
| 08:43.31 | Timmeh | (mine: http://nl.hardware.info/wensenlijst/563490/thr/wishlist ) |
| 08:43.39 | nevcairiel | ssd speed stagnated at max ~550 MB/s for a while now |
| 08:43.45 | nevcairiel | close to the 6Gb/s limit |
| 08:43.48 | chiel | ahh k, you're already adding some case fans right away |
| 08:44.00 | Timmeh | yes |
| 08:44.00 | Neffi | Timmeh: Check out the Samsung XP941. Same controller and flash as the 840 Pro. On the SATA Express bus it hits like 1.1 GB/s |
| 08:44.07 | chiel | i'm not gonna buy extra fans right away i think, since the case already comes with 4 fans |
| 08:44.17 | Timmeh | Neffi: oh that's quite awesome |
| 08:44.25 | chiel | 3x120mm, 1x140mm |
| 08:44.37 | nevcairiel | i'm not using non-noctua fans anymore, so quiet, much cool, so wow |
| 08:44.41 | Neffi | chiel: Switching to a 4770k or no? |
| 08:44.50 | Timmeh | Neffi: but that's a PCIe extension card, right? and will therefore use part of the 16 PCIe lanes otherwise available for the GPU? |
| 08:44.56 | Neffi | No, it's M.2 |
| 08:45.02 | Timmeh | ah |
| 08:45.06 | chiel | Neffi: i should yes, what's the main diff between haswell and the refresh? |
| 08:45.18 | Neffi | No difference, that refresh was just a clock bump |
| 08:45.35 | chiel | ah k, so i am better off getting the 4770k then |
| 08:45.43 | Neffi | If you want to overclock, you have to, yes |
| 08:45.47 | Timmeh | chiel: my case comes with 2 |
| 08:45.54 | Timmeh | chiel: so I wanted to add 2 not-very-loud-but-cheap ones |
| 08:46.01 | Timmeh | fans, that is |
| 08:46.07 | nevcairiel | note that the XP941 is primarily OEM only, so it might be tricky to get, and there are a few issues with using it as a boot drive |
| 08:46.17 | Timmeh | oh I'm not planning on getting it :-D |
| 08:46.23 | Neffi | Or you can wait for Devil's Canyon, which is the K-series refresh rumored to improve the thermals (but otherwise be essentially the same chip) |
| 08:46.52 | chiel | when's that one due? |
| 08:47.16 | Neffi | Probably not for a few months. I'd just go for a 4770k. They don't run THAT hot. And the refresh isn't bumping performance (I dont think so) |
| 08:47.20 | Timmeh | "mid-year 2014" |
| 08:47.39 | Timmeh | http://images.anandtech.com/doci/8046/AnandTech%20Unlocked%20Devil's%20Canyon_678x452_678x452.png |
| 08:48.44 | chiel | fair enough, 4770k will do fine :) |
| 08:49.10 | Neffi | If you are going to overclock, you may consider bumping the cooler back up, to say an H80(i). But the H60 should be able to get you a respectable overclock with reasonable temps |
| 08:51.09 | chiel | yeah that makes sense |
| 08:52.29 | Neffi | Otherwise looks like a solid build, and I'm thoroughly jealous ;) |
| 08:52.49 | chiel | hahaha |
| 08:52.51 | chiel | sorry :p |
| 08:53.02 | chiel | http://nl.hardware.info/wensenlijst/707352/geen_username/dundundunnnn so that's the final thing then, i think |
| 08:53.14 | chiel | i don't think bumping the gpu up will do much, eh? |
| 08:53.25 | Timmeh | to a Titan? |
| 08:53.30 | Timmeh | it'll do quite a lot |
| 08:53.32 | Timmeh | to the price |
| 08:53.44 | Neffi | 780 Ti, you mean, I hope |
| 08:53.48 | Neffi | Faster than a Titan, and cheaper |
| 08:53.50 | Timmeh | yes |
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| 08:55.29 | chiel | but is it worth it, the 780, vs the 780 Ti? the price diff is 170 euros |
| 08:56.04 | Neffi | I'm not faimilar with how much of a bump there is in performance, or what 170 euros is in dollars |
| 08:56.10 | Neffi | nevcairiel: maybe you do |
| 08:56.23 | Timmeh | chiel: http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html |
| 08:56.24 | chiel | hmm, not sure about the currency diff |
| 08:56.43 | Neffi | What I mean is, I can't peg what kind of value that really is |
| 08:56.49 | Timmeh | Neffi: 230 USD |
| 08:59.20 | chiel | hmm |
| 08:59.39 | chiel | it doesn't feel like enough of an improvement to be worth the 170 |
| 08:59.51 | Timmeh | I agree |
| 09:00.35 | chiel | so yes, i think http://nl.hardware.info/wensenlijst/707352/geen_username/dundundunnnn will be it |
| 09:02.35 | chiel | i'm not sure if i need to get additional/replacement case fans, i think i'll give the ones the case comes with a whirl first |
| 09:03.30 | Neffi | Wow, 5 am. I'm off to bed. Enjoy your new build :) |
| 09:05.11 | chiel | haha |
| 09:05.16 | chiel | night Neffi, thanks for the advice |
| 09:06.35 | Timmeh | Neffi: night |
| 09:08.09 | Timmeh | now going to check if pricewatch finds a cheaper shop :_P |
| 09:08.15 | Timmeh | tweakers.net/pricewatch* |
| 09:08.24 | chiel | what was the diff of the AX860 vs AX860i again? |
| 09:08.33 | Timmeh | i |
| 09:08.42 | Timmeh | stop asking those silly questions! |
| 09:09.17 | Timmeh | chiel: http://nl.hardware.info/vergelijkingstabel/producten/166274-166273 |
| 09:10.54 | chiel | xD |
| 09:11.36 | chiel | negligible, then |
| 09:13.16 | chiel | "Also, the AX860i is made by flextronics which is very popular for its unreliability and the AX860 is made by seasonic which is regarded by many as the best PSU brand in the world." |
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| 09:15.20 | bluspacecow | wat to eat wat to eat |
| 09:15.30 | bluspacecow | *nibbles on Neffi* |
| 09:16.45 | chiel | he just left :p |
| 09:17.37 | bluspacecow | okay |
| 09:17.39 | Timmeh | no he's here, just asleep, being nibbled on |
| 09:17.48 | bluspacecow | *nibbles on chiel instead* |
| 09:23.16 | chiel | enjoys it. |
| 09:23.32 | Stanzilla | hi |
| 09:23.37 | chiel | morning |
| 09:24.58 | Timmeh | morning, Stanza Sark |
| 09:25.04 | Timmeh | o.o |
| 09:26.08 | chiel | lol |
| 09:26.21 | chiel | stark*? :P |
| 09:26.30 | Timmeh | no, then he'd be Sanza |
| 09:26.34 | Timmeh | that wouldn't make sense |
| 09:28.03 | chiel | Timmeh, do you have experience with megekko.nl? |
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| 09:30.22 | Timmeh | nope, but looked at it earlier since I get some pretty good prices for my PC :-P |
| 09:30.28 | Timmeh | it looks decent |
| 09:30.35 | Timmeh | and decent reviews as well |
| 09:30.37 | Timmeh | http://tweakers.net/shopreview/9046/megekko/overzicht/ |
| 09:31.33 | chiel | hmm |
| 09:31.36 | chiel | not bad |
| 09:31.47 | Timmeh | yea |
| 09:32.56 | chiel | almost strictly good reviews |
| 09:32.59 | chiel | with the odd bad one |
| 09:33.11 | Timmeh | yea, well, mostly interested about their RMA-stuff, since sending products isn't the hardest :-P |
| 09:33.20 | Timmeh | but the remarks about how they handle RMAs seem decent as well |
| 09:33.21 | chiel | so in total my build will be 1455,02 |
| 09:33.25 | nebula169 | speaking of sanza stark...its monday and i don't see got in my completed torrents folder D; did they break for memorial day weekend? |
| 09:33.39 | chiel | they don't have the harddrive in stock though |
| 09:33.48 | Xuerian | The only good stark is a stark that shows up in Avengers >:| |
| 09:33.49 | Timmeh | Neffi: probably, there was no episode last weekend :-( |
| 09:34.16 | chiel | nebula169: * ;D |
| 09:34.25 | Timmeh | eh |
| 09:34.25 | Timmeh | yea |
| 09:34.28 | Timmeh | nebula169 |
| 09:34.31 | Timmeh | tab completion fail |
| 09:34.43 | chiel | oh wait |
| 09:34.49 | chiel | i think i got the wrong one...? |
| 09:34.55 | Timmeh | wrong what? |
| 09:35.04 | nebula169 | :p it nevcairiel get failed pings, a |
| 09:35.14 | nebula169 | it's usually that gets* |
| 09:35.19 | chiel | one is mSATA-3 6 Gbps, other is SATA-3 6 Gbps |
| 09:35.22 | chiel | is one for in laptops? |
| 09:35.22 | nevcairiel | ~lart nebula169 |
| 09:35.22 | purl | blasts nebula169 with a huge firehose then strangles nebula169 with it |
| 09:35.47 | chiel | https://www.megekko.nl/product/620/187678/Crucial_CT256M550SSD1 vs https://www.megekko.nl/product/620/187682/Crucial_CT256M550SSD3 |
| 09:36.29 | nevcairiel | mSATA is only good for you if you have a mSATA slot to use |
| 09:36.45 | nevcairiel | but mSATA is dead anyway, M.2 replaced it |
| 09:36.54 | chiel | yea, so i had the wrong one |
| 09:37.18 | chiel | 1450,22 for the build then :) |
| 09:37.36 | chiel | i shall order tonight |
| 09:38.34 | chiel | should order a copy of windows with it, while i'm at it |
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| 09:39.10 | Workfoz | znf: it does look a bit ridiculous after 8 hours http://i.imgur.com/ko6KDPu.png |
| 09:39.16 | chiel | Timmeh: "Let op: deze OEM licentie verleend zich niet om het pakket over te zetten op een ander systeem - het wordt gekoppeld aan het eerste systeem", what does that *actually* mean? |
| 09:39.22 | chiel | what if i reinstall? will that still be fine? |
| 09:39.42 | Timmeh | an OEM license is linked to a "hardware profile" |
| 09:39.58 | Timmeh | replacing too much of that "hardware profile" would require you to reactivate |
| 09:40.27 | Timmeh | but in my experience, if you do the manual activation, and you get a support person |
| 09:40.34 | Timmeh | you tell them your motherboard broke and you bought a new one |
| 09:40.38 | Timmeh | and you get a new activation code |
| 09:40.51 | Timmeh | or at least, that worked twice with Windows XP for me... loooooong ago |
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| 09:41.06 | Timmeh | so I'm guessing they still have the same policies |
| 09:41.41 | Timmeh | but yea, reinstalls won't be a problem, just replacing too much hardware would mark it as a "different PC" and therefore need a new OEM license (or a retail license) |
| 09:41.45 | Timmeh | "officially" |
| 09:42.30 | chiel | alright cool, ta |
| 09:43.06 | chiel | 1533, including windows :p |
| 09:43.24 | chiel | i'm happy with that i think :) |
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| 09:49.10 | sb | ha |
| 09:49.16 | sb | i haz interwebs |
| 09:49.22 | Timmeh | boo! |
| 09:49.24 | Timmeh | I mean |
| 09:49.25 | Timmeh | hi |
| 09:50.01 | Timmeh | chiel: how expensive is windows nowadays? |
| 09:50.22 | chiel | 83 euros |
| 09:50.30 | chiel | i am just tired of having to pull of cracks etc |
| 09:50.45 | chiel | the last activation hack i was using doesn't support uefi boot, for some reason |
| 09:51.00 | chiel | and since that motherboard is uefi-only... yea, i just want a normal version of windows |
| 09:51.11 | Timmeh | meh :-P |
| 09:51.21 | Timmeh | is it really that much hassle nao? :-( |
| 09:52.13 | nebula169 | windows loader for win7 was pretty simple and easy, is there a similar win8 activation crack? |
| 09:52.43 | chiel | Timmeh: well i dunno, i wanted to boot over uefi last time i reinstalled and it did give me some issues... |
| 09:52.55 | chiel | that version of the activation hack did not work |
| 09:53.00 | chiel | i don't know if there are others |
| 09:53.03 | chiel | that was win7 anyway |
| 09:53.04 | nebula169 | i've always bought windows with a student discount, or win8 on promotion for like 25$ so i don't mind buying it :p |
| 09:53.16 | chiel | yea, i'll just buy it once and be done with it |
| 09:53.20 | Timmeh | I'd like a promotion :-P |
| 09:53.35 | chiel | it's not cheap... but not terribly expensive either, i suppose |
| 09:53.37 | Timmeh | well currently I'll probably buy without, and if I need it, I can pick it up at a mediamarkt or w/e |
| 09:53.48 | chiel | if i compare it to how much money i spend on things like wow... :p |
| 10:01.15 | Timmeh | chiel: hm, what I'm quickly finding on the internets is problems about OEM computers with a Windows product key set through UEFI |
| 10:01.27 | Timmeh | which I guess isn't the case when you don't buy an OEM computer and build it yourself |
| 10:02.38 | chiel | Timmeh: how do you mean? |
| 10:02.41 | chiel | what problems? |
| 10:02.44 | Timmeh | activation crack problems |
| 10:02.48 | chiel | ah right |
| 10:02.55 | chiel | yea, i will just buy it man |
| 10:03.03 | chiel | i've hassled with that shit for long enough now :p |
| 10:03.13 | Timmeh | heh |
| 10:03.31 | Timmeh | maybe I won't even install Windows.. just have a VM running for the battle.net app |
| 10:03.34 | Timmeh | >_> |
| 10:03.45 | Timmeh | unless that works fine on wine, actually haven't tested |
| 10:04.08 | chiel | hmm, but you play wow over a vm? |
| 10:04.09 | Timmeh | surely someone in here has |
| 10:04.13 | Timmeh | chiel: no |
| 10:04.21 | Timmeh | chiel: just the updating of the files |
| 10:04.24 | chiel | you mean just for when you're booted into linux? |
| 10:04.26 | Timmeh | WoW runs fine on wine |
| 10:04.31 | chiel | oh? |
| 10:04.35 | nebula169 | use bda for what? updates? |
| 10:04.43 | Timmeh | nebula169: yea |
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| 10:04.51 | nebula169 | sounds annoying |
| 10:04.57 | chiel | didn't realise you could play wow from linux |
| 10:05.06 | chiel | or that it was performant, basically |
| 10:05.16 | chiel | a guy i was raiding with yesterday did complain a bit about the amd drivers for linux |
| 10:05.22 | nebula169 | chiel: yea, it works pretty well |
| 10:05.25 | chiel | i did wonder how he was playing... whether he was on a vm or something |
| 10:05.32 | chiel | hmm, very interesting |
| 10:05.40 | chiel | i don't actually know how wine works, but i might try that, then |
| 10:05.50 | chiel | cause i really would much rather not be on windows |
| 10:06.23 | Timmeh | biggest questionmark is the battle.net app |
| 10:06.24 | Timmeh | me thinks |
| 10:06.31 | chiel | is the performance difference of wine vs windows negligible? |
| 10:06.55 | Timmeh | there was no difference that I noticed |
| 10:07.02 | chiel | hmmm very interesting. |
| 10:07.10 | Timmeh | I don't remember whether I used wine's DirectX libs or OpenGL, though |
| 10:07.26 | chiel | i should read up about wine, as i have 0 clue about how it works :p |
| 10:07.28 | haste | the updater tends to break in magnificent ways under wine tho' |
| 10:07.39 | chiel | haha |
| 10:07.43 | chiel | hey haste |
| 10:07.46 | haste | haroo |
| 10:07.48 | Timmeh | haste: yea, that's what I'm worreida bout |
| 10:07.52 | Timmeh | worried about* |
| 10:07.53 | chiel | how was your vacation? |
| 10:07.59 | haste | nice :3 |
| 10:08.02 | chiel | cool :) |
| 10:08.03 | haste | only three weeks until the next one! |
| 10:08.13 | chiel | i've been getting into oUF again recently, my compliments once again :p |
| 10:08.33 | chiel | only having a small problem with the stagger module, but i'll dig into that soon and then send a pull request :) |
| 10:08.44 | chiel | and 3 weeks until the next... i hate you :p |
| 10:08.44 | Timmeh | but yea, wine is just a bunch of libs that translate calls to the Windows libs to the linux/unix/posix libs |
| 10:08.45 | haste | cool |
| 10:08.52 | chiel | ah ok, i see |
| 10:08.55 | haste | I was planning on pushing a release, but I can delay it more :P |
| 10:09.09 | chiel | haste: basically it doesn't "load" properly when you first relog/reload |
| 10:09.17 | chiel | have to change stance for it to trigger |
| 10:09.33 | haste | that's pretty shit =/ |
| 10:09.37 | chiel | yea |
| 10:09.49 | chiel | it seems like basically it's not updating properly on P_E_W |
| 10:09.49 | Timmeh | haste: so is chiel, and to negatives makes a positive, so it's all good |
| 10:09.50 | haste | stagger is monk right? |
| 10:09.55 | chiel | yea |
| 10:09.58 | chiel | brewmaster only |
| 10:10.07 | chiel | for me, the bar is just plain white when logging in |
| 10:10.19 | chiel | going into tiger stance and back to ox fixes the problem |
| 10:10.24 | chiel | so that's what i've been doing for the moment |
| 10:10.34 | haste | probably missing some events then |
| 10:10.38 | chiel | yeah |
| 10:10.56 | chiel | i haven't quite pinpointed it yet as i haven't had time, but i will check soon :) |
| 10:10.59 | haste | I can probably look at it as well, but I can't do any testing |
| 10:11.20 | chiel | but nevcairiel said the module looked a bit weird to begin with anyway |
| 10:11.37 | chiel | i'm not *too* familiar with Lua, but i'm sure i can figure it out ^^ |
| 10:12.23 | haste | rainrider and adirelle did the stagger module at least |
| 10:12.29 | chiel | yea, saw |
| 10:12.53 | chiel | just feels weird that i am the only one having this problem... unless they just log in while in tiger stance :p |
| 10:13.18 | chiel | haste: nevcairiel said it was something to do in this function: https://github.com/haste/oUF/blob/master/elements/stagger.lua#L116-L127 |
| 10:14.22 | haste | should be fairly easy to test |
| 10:14.48 | haste | just check what the functions return |
| 10:15.15 | chiel | yep, just haven't had much time to really dig in :p |
| 10:15.45 | chiel | https://github.com/chielkunkels/oUF_Aelen/blob/master/aelen.lua#L124-L128 <- that's how i'm using it |
| 10:15.59 | chiel | doing nothing out of the ordinary as far as i'm aware |
| 10:16.08 | Timmeh | chiel: do you have a showoff yet? |
| 10:16.55 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: the controls on watch dogs are so bad |
| 10:16.59 | Stanzilla | console game++ |
| 10:17.30 | chiel | Timmeh: yea, i showed you the other day, sec. |
| 10:17.41 | Timmeh | was I here? :-P |
| 10:17.52 | chiel | Timmeh: idk |
| 10:17.53 | chiel | http://abload.de/image.php?img=wowscrnshot_052514_12gzohe.jpg |
| 10:17.58 | chiel | http://abload.de/image.php?img=wowscrnshot_052514_12rkp8q.jpg |
| 10:18.28 | chiel | so basically i just have the unitframe move up to there when in combat, out of combat it stays a bit further down, at lower opacity, out of the way |
| 10:18.35 | chiel | and the weakaura stuff only appears in combat, too |
| 10:18.44 | chiel | so it's my main buffs i need to track, and the rotation cooldowns |
| 10:18.54 | Timmeh | right |
| 10:19.14 | Timmeh | bit too much spacing for my taste |
| 10:19.16 | Timmeh | but looks clean |
| 10:19.28 | chiel | yea maybe, just got tired of spending daaays on it, haha |
| 10:19.41 | chiel | oh and the energy bar changes colour |
| 10:19.45 | chiel | goes red when under 40 |
| 10:19.54 | chiel | cause all my energy-consuming abilities cost 40 |
| 10:20.08 | Timmeh | and an air siren goes off? |
| 10:20.13 | chiel | totally |
| 10:20.16 | Timmeh | cool |
| 10:20.27 | chiel | oh and that other bar is the gcd |
| 10:20.47 | chiel | so, stagger, hp, energy, chi, gcd |
| 10:21.02 | chiel | which, as nevcairiel pointed out, is a lot of bars... but meh, works :) |
| 10:22.15 | Timmeh | right |
| 10:22.21 | Timmeh | yea I don't really see the point for a GCD bar |
| 10:22.32 | Timmeh | a swing timer bar seems to make more sense then, but even that is hardly useful :-D |
| 10:22.51 | chiel | well i have my action bars hidden, and i like to be able to see when i should save my energy for when my gcd + keg smash is coming up :D |
| 10:23.51 | chiel | perhaps once i am more "attuned" to monk play i'll remove it |
| 10:23.56 | chiel | but for now, it helps me make decisions |
| 10:24.04 | chiel | and in the end, that's what i want from my UI, info |
| 10:27.05 | chiel | oh and on the left those bars are like, active cooldowns on me, including external ones |
| 10:27.18 | chiel | i still want something to make it a bit clearer, but there's other stuff to fix, so i'm not too fussed |
| 10:35.55 | Timmeh | right yea, no action bars |
| 10:36.17 | Timmeh | I like keeping spell cooldowns on the action bar buttons :-P |
| 10:36.34 | chiel | yea, that's where those weakauras come in |
| 10:36.47 | Timmeh | and I like just a whole bunch of utility clickable action bars for eating food, using flask, spamming to chat, etc. |
| 10:36.48 | chiel | but i have been thinking about simply putting them on a bartender bar and sizing it down |
| 10:36.51 | Timmeh | profressions |
| 10:36.58 | chiel | since i am still missing a few cooldowns that i need to track |
| 10:37.14 | chiel | i remember the keybinds for this stuff :p |
| 10:37.25 | Timmeh | I remember keybinds for my actual spells |
| 10:37.30 | chiel | me too |
| 10:37.35 | Timmeh | but professions, food, flasks, etc, I don't have that on keybinds |
| 10:37.46 | chiel | well no, but pressing K brings up the profession frame, for example |
| 10:37.55 | chiel | and pressing B opens bags, where my food and flasks reside :p |
| 10:38.15 | chiel | i was thinking about adding a utility bar though, somewhere, with this kind of stuff on it |
| 10:38.21 | chiel | anyway |
| 10:38.22 | chiel | food |
| 10:38.23 | chiel | brb |
| 10:38.24 | Timmeh | right :-) |
| 10:38.38 | Timmeh | and I like the ability to not have to set up weakauras before I can use a UI :-P |
| 10:38.42 | Timmeh | like, for a new char |
| 10:38.45 | Timmeh | just opy settings -> done |
| 10:38.47 | Timmeh | copt* |
| 10:38.49 | Timmeh | copy*! |
| 10:47.36 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla: i broke watch dogs, now it crashes when starting |
| 10:48.00 | quiescens | ): |
| 10:48.07 | quiescens | blame znf |
| 10:55.51 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: does that for me randomly |
| 10:56.48 | nevcairiel | sometimes causes the gpu driver to crash midgame |
| 10:58.16 | nevcairiel | i should give them a few days to patch it a bit =P |
| 10:58.58 | Stanzilla | there was a day1 patch today though |
| 10:59.06 | Stanzilla | it was even worse before :D |
| 10:59.39 | chiel | Timmeh: well, i don't play with hidden bars on all my characters ^^ |
| 10:59.48 | chiel | nor do i have weakauras set up for all of them |
| 10:59.59 | chiel | i don't have a generic ui atm |
| 11:00.09 | Timmeh | chiel: yea, well, that's my thing :-D I try to keep them as similar as possible |
| 11:00.13 | chiel | my player unit frame is the only generic thing :) |
| 11:00.23 | chiel | yeah, i used to do that too |
| 11:00.31 | chiel | but atm i am just playing my monk mostly |
| 11:00.41 | chiel | and on my warrior i just play with actionbars shown |
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| 11:09.37 | chiel | Timmeh: there's a lot of horrorstories on the price watch about megekko's aftersales shit |
| 11:09.47 | chiel | also some very good ones... |
| 11:09.53 | chiel | but a lof of bad ones |
| 11:10.15 | Timmeh | orly? I didn't see many bad ones |
| 11:10.31 | Timmeh | the RMA things I read actually were relatively positive |
| 11:12.05 | chiel | go through a few pages |
| 11:12.17 | chiel | a lot of bas ones, too |
| 11:13.16 | Timmeh | hm |
| 11:13.22 | Timmeh | yea |
| 11:13.23 | chiel | bad * |
| 11:13.41 | Timmeh | though the problem generally seems to be slowness |
| 11:13.43 | Timmeh | not unwillingness |
| 11:13.53 | chiel | yea i suppose that's true |
| 11:13.59 | quiescens | go to sleep |
| 11:14.08 | chiel | a few rma's that got denied as well, but it's probably the people themselves being unreasonable |
| 11:14.17 | chiel | puts quiescens to sleep |
| 11:14.35 | quiescens | dies. |
| 11:15.07 | chiel | teabags quiescens |
| 11:15.16 | Timmeh | there aren't that many reviews |
| 11:15.20 | Timmeh | so I find it hard to judge |
| 11:15.30 | quiescens | ): |
| 11:15.59 | chiel | there's 5 pages of reviews :p |
| 11:16.06 | Timmeh | yes, only 5 pages |
| 11:16.08 | chiel | but a lot of them have no aftersales stuff filles in |
| 11:16.14 | Timmeh | yea |
| 11:16.21 | Timmeh | seems a pretty new shop |
| 11:16.26 | Timmeh | first review sept 2013 |
| 11:16.34 | chiel | i think i will order there regardless, overall it seems fine... and in general you should take into account people being overly negative |
| 11:16.47 | Timmeh | hahah, that review "De processor en het RAM-geheugen bleken niet geschikt voor mijn moederbord. Doordat de lijst van onderdelen compatible met dit moederbord nog niet zo heel uitgebreid is, heb ik de producten eerst moeten testen om daar achter te komen." |
| 11:16.50 | chiel | + some of the reviews will be older, and they may have fixed some of the issues they had to start with |
| 11:16.59 | chiel | lol |
| 11:17.01 | chiel | research is hard. |
| 11:18.08 | chiel | i wish i didn't get rid of the oUF code i had before :p |
| 11:18.15 | chiel | gotta figure out how to spawn boss frames :p |
| 11:18.56 | haste | https://github.com/haste/oUF_Lily/blob/master/lily.lua#L456-L458 - like any other single-unit frame |
| 11:19.44 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: is the game performing bad for you, too? i mean it's really laggy here |
| 11:20.04 | nevcairiel | it seemed fine, but then it had weird lag spikes when i was driving the car |
| 11:21.56 | chiel | haste: ah, i had been looking at the classic layout, that one didn't have boss frames :) |
| 11:21.59 | chiel | thanks |
| 11:24.14 | bluspacecow | *ressurects quiescens as super awesome 5 eyes blue dragon stomp on your face quiescens* |
| 11:27.00 | Timmeh | quiescens = celestalon, confirmed. |
| 11:28.28 | Megalon | celestalon dies when he stubs his toe? |
| 11:29.56 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 11:29.59 | bluspacecow | so mean! |
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| 12:11.46 | sb | Stanzilla: did you buy the game? :( |
| 12:12.08 | sb | is it much like gta or more like some hacking whatever fps? |
| 12:15.09 | sb | Gnarfoz: i didnt pick NA keys btw, beta was NA - no idea why, my live code was EU |
| 12:15.54 | sb | Workfoz: even |
| 12:17.45 | Stanzilla | sb: no |
| 12:17.55 | Stanzilla | it's GTA + hacking |
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| 12:35.29 | Megalon | you are literally nolan ross |
| 12:40.31 | nebula169 | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236642 that's interesting |
| 12:45.27 | nevcairiel | its kinda pointless though, unless your primary concern is only having one 2.5" slot and needing more space than a SSD can provide |
| 12:45.50 | nevcairiel | many newer laptops can use mSATA or M.2 SSDs in addition to one 2.5" drive |
| 12:45.53 | nebula169 | for use in a laptop maybe |
| 12:51.02 | Workfoz | sb: I had EU keys for beta, too (but I didn't use them, I had pre-ordered by then) |
| 12:51.11 | Workfoz | sb: (and I have both nicks on highlight, no worries) |
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| 12:51.24 | sb | Workfoz: got beta key from somewhere else, didnt even know it was NA beta |
| 12:51.32 | Workfoz | hehe |
| 12:51.32 | sb | because there was no difference in EU / NA beta :p |
| 12:51.36 | sb | same servers and stuff |
| 12:51.40 | Workfoz | yeah, there wasn't |
| 12:51.54 | Workfoz | except for the ncsoft accounts being silently flagged as na/eu |
| 12:52.00 | nevcairiel | just because you didnt see any difference, doesnt mean there wasn't |
| 12:52.00 | Workfoz | (stupid) |
| 12:52.10 | sb | yes, i know nevcairiel |
| 12:52.14 | sb | it was flagged as NA |
| 12:52.21 | sb | thats why my EU key didnt fit |
| 12:52.32 | Workfoz | hipster socialist eu key |
| 12:52.44 | Workfoz | doesn't fit with capitalist NA accs |
| 12:53.46 | Workfoz | in the spirit of http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.de/2010/06/this-is-why-ill-never-be-adult.html I'm feeling totally good because I filed my tax thing |
| 12:54.46 | sb | shouldnt you be working? :p |
| 12:54.56 | Workfoz | eating |
| 12:55.05 | Workfoz | lunch "break" |
| 12:55.12 | nevcairiel | at 3? |
| 12:55.21 | Workfoz | yeah, why not? |
| 12:55.31 | nevcairiel | more like cake time |
| 12:55.35 | Workfoz | just came back from Finanzamt :D |
| 12:55.47 | sb | thats what i meant - finanzamt vs. work? :p |
| 12:55.52 | Workfoz | eh? |
| 12:56.10 | sb | do you do you taxes at work? |
| 12:56.13 | nevcairiel | he means you should be working instead of going to the finanzamt! |
| 12:56.15 | Workfoz | I went there, grabbed some junk food from Netto on the way bck and am eating it now |
| 12:56.26 | Workfoz | breaaaaak time |
| 12:56.30 | Workfoz | :D |
| 12:56.55 | Workfoz | a bit longer than strictly necessary, but np |
| 12:57.05 | bluspacecow | what is this Finanzamt thingy ? it sounds nommy |
| 12:57.20 | Workfoz | tax... office? |
| 12:57.24 | Workfoz | IRS, basically |
| 12:57.26 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 12:57.32 | bluspacecow | i thought you were going to say |
| 12:57.33 | Workfoz | oh wait, you're not USian |
| 12:57.39 | bluspacecow | super awesome cake shop |
| 12:57.41 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 12:57.49 | Workfoz | it might be |
| 12:57.50 | Workfoz | I didn't go in |
| 12:57.53 | sb | yes, cake shop |
| 12:58.00 | sb | its uber-noms |
| 12:58.06 | Workfoz | I just slid the envelope in their mailbox and ran as fast as I could |
| 12:58.09 | Workfoz | lest they arrest me |
| 12:58.29 | Workfoz | but if all goes well, I can buy many a cake with the money I'll get back :D |
| 12:58.42 | bluspacecow | a delicous cake would go down well too |
| 12:59.23 | bluspacecow | “please dont arrest me for tax evasion [DELICOUS CAKE ATTACK]” |
| 13:00.32 | Workfoz | I should have thought of that |
| 13:00.37 | Workfoz | maybe it's not too late! |
| 13:06.05 | Workfoz | Torhal: apparently, the penalty for filing my taxes late is limited to 10% of the amount of tax applicable to the year I'm filing taxes for. Since the entire point of filing is to ajdust/ascertain (hopefully: reduce) that number, it'll be limited to something between ~200 € and ~300 €. Depending on how much of my filing they agree with, it will probably |
| 13:06.05 | Workfoz | still end up being a net win for me. *phew* |
| 13:08.41 | sb | Workfoz: 200eur is 10%? |
| 13:08.50 | sb | or 10% out of 200? |
| 13:09.26 | sb | because 200-300 seems to low, i think it should be more like 500-700 eur |
| 13:12.55 | chiel | ok i need to pick between the asus z97-a or the asus sabertooth |
| 13:13.35 | sb | why not both= |
| 13:15.49 | chiel | welllll |
| 13:16.00 | chiel | i somewhat think that the case will only fit one :p |
| 13:21.01 | Megalon | chiel: it won't fit both, not with that attitude |
| 13:22.08 | mitch0 | looking for a good free email service. anyone got a good recommendation? |
| 13:22.22 | Workfoz | oh my god why did I go into that discussion |
| 13:22.36 | Xuerian | Because it's hilarious |
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| 13:22.43 | Workfoz | mitch0: "good" is rather vague... gmail kind of qualifies |
| 13:23.05 | mitch0 | I already have a gmail, need one for s3cret stuff ;) |
| 13:23.13 | Workfoz | sb: 2010 is the year I started working here, so it's only from May 17 - Dec 31 |
| 13:23.23 | Workfoz | mitch0: make another! top sikritz |
| 13:23.33 | Stanzilla | I fucking hate MS Word and printing |
| 13:23.34 | nevcairiel | use hotmail |
| 13:23.39 | Stanzilla | it's 2014, why do I have to print stuff |
| 13:23.41 | nevcairiel | its so full of spam, they will never find your secrets |
| 13:23.42 | Workfoz | live you mean |
| 13:23.43 | Workfoz | oh wait |
| 13:23.45 | Workfoz | outlook you mean |
| 13:23.47 | mitch0 | nevcairiel: :) |
| 13:23.49 | Workfoz | is it still called that? |
| 13:23.52 | chiel | Megalon: hahaha :p |
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| 13:24.54 | Workfoz | sb: unless I misunderstood what you were saying |
| 13:29.36 | sb | Workfoz: ah, so you didnt pay full years taxes |
| 13:29.38 | sb | okay |
| 13:34.05 | Workfoz | sb: yeah I paid ~3k, tax program says I should get ~1k back, if they accept all the crap I submitted |
| 13:34.17 | Workfoz | which leaves ~2k, which would be the number the 10% get applied to |
| 13:35.41 | Torhal | Workfoz: Ah, so not entirely bad then. |
| 13:38.15 | Stanzilla | I want to cry |
| 13:42.28 | Megalon | then do it |
| 13:47.12 | quiescens | o.o |
| 13:52.55 | Workfoz | do eeeet |
| 13:53.09 | Workfoz | Torhal: yeah. also they don't have to - they just "can" :D |
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| 13:58.33 | Stanzilla | https://cdn.mediacru.sh/O9WdLjZx2oSm.png |
| 13:58.37 | Stanzilla | Y U NO SAME HEIGHT |
| 13:59.20 | Timmeh | now that's true german, all capitals, etc. |
| 14:02.28 | znf | Workfoz, I know, right? http://i.imgur.com/0UPHvOu.png |
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| 14:05.29 | znf | I think the website kind of crashed, though :( |
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| 14:09.45 | pompy | http://wundergroundmusic.com/david-guetta-world-tour-cancelled-after-losing-usb-containing-his-entire-set-2/ |
| 14:18.39 | Timmeh | seems legit |
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| 14:24.49 | mitch0 | 2legit2quit |
| 14:33.37 | znf | funny :P |
| 14:36.32 | nebula169 | "Mr. Guetta’s management quickly apologised to all his fans, however all four of them who showed up for the event were said to be massively disappointed with some of them having took the afternoon off from school and rode all the way there on their bikes." |
| 14:36.34 | nebula169 | lol |
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| 14:47.01 | chiel | ok so, i'm gonna make a final decision about the motherboard, and then order :D |
| 14:47.01 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: do you have a minute? |
| 14:47.19 | chiel | cause i'm still not 100% sure on the motherboard >_> |
| 14:49.05 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla: guess so |
| 14:49.10 | Stanzilla | can I send you this word file and you try to print 4 sheets of it onto one page? |
| 14:49.21 | nevcairiel | you still sucking at word? |
| 14:49.26 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 14:49.35 | nevcairiel | but sure, why not |
| 14:51.05 | Stanzilla | thanks |
| 14:51.40 | Stanzilla | it should be super simple, there even is a setting "x pages per sheet" but it does not work |
| 14:52.51 | nevcairiel | your document contains 4 pages with different offsets o.o |
| 14:53.30 | Stanzilla | yeah that's from trying stuff |
| 14:53.34 | Stanzilla | can just use the first |
| 14:53.55 | Stanzilla | just enter "1,1,1,1" in the pages thingy |
| 14:55.51 | nevcairiel | worked just fine |
| 14:55.55 | nevcairiel | you owe me a piece of paper |
| 14:56.13 | Stanzilla | nice |
| 14:56.19 | nevcairiel | used pages 1,1,1,1 and pages per sheet 4 |
| 14:56.21 | Stanzilla | so what did you do? just set it to 4 pages per sheet and hit print? |
| 14:56.23 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 14:56.32 | Stanzilla | theeen idk what's going on here |
| 14:56.36 | Timmeh | chiel: you gonna oc? |
| 14:56.41 | nevcairiel | office 2007 at that |
| 14:56.45 | nevcairiel | i'm slightly out of date :P |
| 14:56.49 | Timmeh | chiel: if no, the simpler one |
| 14:57.07 | Timmeh | chiel: if yes, ask nevcairiel |
| 14:57.13 | Stanzilla | in that case older seems to be better then :D |
| 14:57.24 | Timmeh | chiel: if maybe, toss a coin |
| 14:57.34 | Timmeh | chiel: or /roll |
| 14:57.48 | znf | I such a weird friend... |
| 14:57.59 | Timmeh | znf: am or have? :-D |
| 14:58.04 | Timmeh | (or both) |
| 14:58.21 | nevcairiel | probably both |
| 14:58.25 | nevcairiel | weird attracts weird |
| 14:58.53 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla: i was missing the artwork though that was on your screenshot |
| 14:58.56 | nevcairiel | just says "jaw" :p |
| 14:58.58 | chiel | Timmeh: lol :p |
| 14:59.07 | chiel | yes, i will try some oc'ing |
| 14:59.09 | Stanzilla | yeah it's a font |
| 14:59.30 | chiel | i think it's really between the asus z97-a and the sabertooth mark 2 |
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| 14:59.49 | nevcairiel | if you have no ambition to get a sata express device, go with the sabertooth mk2 |
| 15:00.11 | nevcairiel | it has an overall higher build quality |
| 15:00.28 | chiel | yea, i don't think i'll be getting a sata express anytime soon |
| 15:00.44 | nevcairiel | and if you really want, some come with a pci-e adapter to put it into a slot :D |
| 15:01.20 | chiel | ahh ok, neat |
| 15:02.04 | chiel | nevcairiel: any last remarks: https://www.megekko.nl/winkelmand/del/162028/ ? |
| 15:02.14 | nevcairiel | link no worky |
| 15:02.25 | Timmeh | 162028 is chiel's password |
| 15:02.36 | chiel | oh right of course |
| 15:02.40 | chiel | it's a shoping basket |
| 15:02.42 | chiel | duh xD |
| 15:02.49 | chiel | i'm not a noob, i swear |
| 15:02.56 | Megalon | puts chiel in the whooping basket |
| 15:02.59 | nevcairiel | keep telling yourself t hat! |
| 15:03.26 | Timmeh | put the chiel in the basket |
| 15:03.58 | chiel | Asus GTX780-DC2OC-3GD5, Corsair AX860, Corsair Hydro H100i, Crucial Ballistix Sport 16gb (2x8), Crucial CT256M550SSD1, Intel Core i7 4770K, NZXT H440 Black |
| 15:04.29 | nevcairiel | personally i favor slightly faster RAM, but thats just me being funny that way |
| 15:04.49 | chiel | this ram is DDR3-1600 |
| 15:04.58 | chiel | for what purpose do you prefer it being fastet, though? |
| 15:05.00 | chiel | faster* |
| 15:05.06 | Timmeh | you could go for a DDR3-1866 if OCing anyway |
| 15:05.11 | nevcairiel | mine is 2133-CL9 |
| 15:05.13 | Stanzilla | the H100i is old, too |
| 15:05.17 | nevcairiel | its not really that big diff in price |
| 15:05.19 | Stanzilla | new one is H105 iirc |
| 15:05.44 | Stanzilla | also get corsair ram :p |
| 15:06.18 | chiel | Stanzilla: hmm ok, there's like almost no price diff, what is the actual difference between em? (the h105 i mean) |
| 15:06.33 | Stanzilla | it's just 2 years newer or so |
| 15:06.58 | pompy | slightly bigger radiator |
| 15:07.07 | nevcairiel | a corsair 2133-CL9 16gb kit (4x4) is 138€, or 150 for 2x8, not sure how much your kit there is |
| 15:07.51 | chiel | defo want 2x8 yea |
| 15:08.00 | chiel | for future expansion |
| 15:08.08 | chiel | pompy: fair enough, watching a review atm |
| 15:08.40 | Stanzilla | also I think samsung still has the fastest ssd with the 840 pro atm |
| 15:08.42 | Stanzilla | but not sure |
| 15:09.06 | znf | My internet went down while I was typing that... |
| 15:09.22 | Stanzilla | also samsung has rapidmode |
| 15:09.27 | chiel | there's been a huge discussion that took almost an entire day when it came to ssds, haha |
| 15:09.32 | chiel | they are pretty similar in price etc |
| 15:09.34 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla: somehow they thought pro was too expensive, and gnarfoz made them afraid of tlc |
| 15:09.45 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: haha |
| 15:09.47 | Stanzilla | get the pro |
| 15:09.49 | Stanzilla | it's good |
| 15:09.55 | Stanzilla | we all have one (almost!) |
| 15:10.18 | Stanzilla | I think Fisker recently bought the 1TB evo though |
| 15:10.23 | nevcairiel | the pro costs quite a bit more, so there is an argument to be made |
| 15:10.24 | chiel | nevcairiel: nobody made me afraid, i've no strong opinion really :p |
| 15:10.27 | pompy | of course he would |
| 15:10.48 | nevcairiel | twice the price of the evo or the corsair, nearly |
| 15:11.31 | Stanzilla | the evo should be better than the crucial he listed, too |
| 15:11.50 | chiel | alrighty |
| 15:11.59 | nevcairiel | its pretty close in benchmarks at least |
| 15:12.05 | Fisker | want bans? |
| 15:12.09 | Stanzilla | did the benchmarks use rapid mode? |
| 15:12.12 | nevcairiel | probably not |
| 15:12.19 | Stanzilla | yeah so there's that |
| 15:12.24 | Stanzilla | rapid mode is kinda huge |
| 15:14.29 | bluspacecow | Oh Diskery Disker |
| 15:15.11 | chiel | alrighty, will swap that out then, the samsung is, funnily enough, actually cheaper |
| 15:15.21 | nevcairiel | the evo? |
| 15:15.30 | chiel | yes |
| 15:15.54 | Stanzilla | TLC! |
| 15:16.33 | Stanzilla | http://www.anandtech.com/show/5067/understanding-tlc-nand |
| 15:16.36 | Stanzilla | read that |
| 15:16.46 | Stanzilla | stepping in for Gnarfoz here :D |
| 15:17.13 | nevcairiel | even TLC will take ages to fail tho |
| 15:17.42 | nevcairiel | as long as there is decent write amplification protection and all that |
| 15:18.05 | chiel | alright, you guys have convinced me, relaaax :p |
| 15:18.05 | sb | meh, still at work! |
| 15:18.28 | chiel | so now i mainly just need to figure out what the hell the difference is between the h105 and h100i |
| 15:18.34 | nevcairiel | in a later article about the EVO, they pretty much praised it |
| 15:18.43 | nevcairiel | because its so cheap and still competes in the top segment |
| 15:18.50 | chiel | cause there's h100i, h105 and h120 |
| 15:18.52 | chiel | h110 * |
| 15:21.00 | Fisker | Like I give a shit Stanzilla |
| 15:21.15 | Fisker | I'm pretty sure I'm not going to be writing 70GB/d for the next 3 years |
| 15:21.21 | Fisker | and I'll be replacing it in less |
| 15:22.02 | Stanzilla | chiel: 105 |
| 15:23.17 | chiel | Stanzilla: yea but why? :p |
| 15:23.24 | chiel | i can't find a very clearcut reason why |
| 15:23.34 | chiel | the price diff is like... ~4 euro |
| 15:23.42 | Fisker | man watch_dogs |
| 15:23.44 | Stanzilla | 120mm fans vs 140mm |
| 15:23.45 | Fisker | the menu is a shit port |
| 15:24.01 | Timmeh | Fisker: No manual entry for watch_dogs |
| 15:24.15 | Fisker | man I'm gonna ban Timmeh |
| 15:24.28 | Timmeh | > |
| 15:24.39 | Timmeh | Fisker: waiting for you to finish your string literal |
| 15:24.45 | bluspacecow | the menu is pooooo |
| 15:24.47 | Stanzilla | chiel: and the 105 is newer |
| 15:24.55 | bluspacecow | oh sorry Timmeh |
| 15:24.58 | Stanzilla | Fisker: the whole controlling is poo |
| 15:25.00 | bluspacecow | “The Menu is Poooooooooooooooooooooooooo” |
| 15:25.03 | bluspacecow | better ? |
| 15:25.11 | Timmeh | bluspacecow: totally! |
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| 15:26.06 | chiel | Stanzilla: alright, cheers |
| 15:27.13 | Stanzilla | np |
| 15:27.33 | Stanzilla | chiel: pompy recently bought one |
| 15:28.27 | Stanzilla | can ask him if he liked it. I only have the older h100 |
| 15:28.47 | Repo | New experimental addon: Ackis Recipe List: Alchemy - http://www.wowace.com/addons/arl-alchemy/ |
| 15:30.40 | Stanzilla | man nevcairiel |
| 15:30.43 | Stanzilla | got it to print right |
| 15:30.48 | Stanzilla | now my mom wants changes |
| 15:30.55 | Stanzilla | enrage in 10 |
| 15:31.15 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 15:31.36 | chiel | HE'S GOING INTO BERSERK |
| 15:31.45 | nevcairiel | also, why is there no checkbox for germany doesn't even get past the group phase? |
| 15:32.11 | Stanzilla | impossible |
| 15:32.14 | Stanzilla | we're jsut too good |
| 15:32.38 | Stanzilla | also you could say checking nothing there means that :D |
| 15:32.43 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 15:33.11 | Stanzilla | also just saw that the first question is missing the question mark |
| 15:33.18 | Stanzilla | was about to hit print on 20 pages |
| 15:33.19 | Stanzilla | phew |
| 15:33.38 | Timmeh | according to the news paper, we (The Netherlands) have a big chance to win, because everyone sees us as "the underdog" |
| 15:33.41 | chiel | alright, aaaalmost there |
| 15:34.13 | chiel | so what's the main difference between all those kinds of corsair ram, anyway? |
| 15:34.19 | Timmeh | so "we" supposedly have no pressure, because "we" are not expected to win |
| 15:34.26 | Timmeh | chiel: 200 euros? :-P |
| 15:34.42 | Stanzilla | chiel: not much, just make sure to get the LP (low profile) ones |
| 15:34.43 | nevcairiel | Timmeh: underdog? you made second place last time |
| 15:35.02 | pompy | http://www.theverge.com/2014/5/27/5754240/mark-zuckerberg-summoned-to-iranian-court-for-privacy-case loll |
| 15:35.02 | chiel | cause there's like dominator, vengeance.. all that kinda stuff :p |
| 15:35.03 | Timmeh | nevcairiel: yes, it's just the news papers saying "we can win" and "we don't expect to win" at the same time |
| 15:35.06 | Timmeh | nevcairiel: so they're never wrong |
| 15:35.14 | Stanzilla | vengeance LP |
| 15:35.19 | nevcairiel | also why corsair, i prefer g.skill ripjaws! |
| 15:35.28 | Stanzilla | corsair master race! |
| 15:35.55 | chiel | meh, you guys confuse me :p |
| 15:36.17 | Timmeh | chiel: the g.skill ripjaws are the ones I mentioned yesterday, that came right above the ones I'll order but are more expensive |
| 15:36.19 | Stanzilla | comes down to preference anyway |
| 15:36.33 | Timmeh | "right above" in the tests I looked up |
| 15:36.51 | Timmeh | but all details |
| 15:37.19 | nevcairiel | if my plans pan out, my next build might need ddr4, thats going to be expensive |
| 15:37.49 | Stanzilla | the haswell-e build or the one after that? |
| 15:38.03 | nevcairiel | haswell-e |
| 15:38.07 | nevcairiel | is supposed to have ddr4 |
| 15:38.10 | chiel | hmm |
| 15:38.43 | Stanzilla | my plan is to skip haswell |
| 15:39.06 | Stanzilla | so ddr4 might be in my next build, too! |
| 15:39.18 | nevcairiel | i really want the extra cores, so waiting for broadwell-e is just too long! |
| 15:39.40 | Stanzilla | yeah I'm not sure I really need those extra cores |
| 15:40.25 | chiel | think i'll stick with the crucial memory then, since i don't really have a preference when it comes to ram :p |
| 15:40.50 | Stanzilla | let's agree on crucial being bad then! |
| 15:41.05 | chiel | fine by me :p |
| 15:41.12 | pompy | jnwhiteh: http://www.theverge.com/2014/5/27/5754328/spotify-hacked-only-one-user-affected-so-far one user :o lol. |
| 15:41.57 | chiel | the g.skill stuff does look nice though, and not quite as expensive as corsair :p |
| 15:42.32 | nevcairiel | i've been using g.skill ripjaws for my last couple builds (the various generations of that ram), but its probably also just meaningless brand bias |
| 15:42.40 | nevcairiel | but the modules are nice and low profile |
| 15:43.18 | chiel | there's X and Z series though |
| 15:43.37 | nevcairiel | yeah one is designed for dual channel and one for quad channel, but not sure it really matters |
| 15:43.43 | chiel | ah k |
| 15:43.53 | chiel | i need dual channel anyway i guess, since i'm only buying 2 modules to start with |
| 15:43.56 | Stanzilla | now if those vodafone guys could stop calling me |
| 15:43.58 | Stanzilla | that would be nice |
| 15:44.09 | nevcairiel | tell them to screw themself and delete your number? |
| 15:44.17 | Stanzilla | did that many times already |
| 15:44.22 | Stanzilla | now I'm just hanging up on them |
| 15:44.25 | chiel | what's CAS? :P |
| 15:44.35 | nevcairiel | column access time |
| 15:44.46 | nevcairiel | or column address select |
| 15:44.49 | nevcairiel | depends where you read |
| 15:44.56 | Fisker | Client Access Server! |
| 15:45.26 | chiel | hm, higher or lower = better? |
| 15:45.29 | chiel | or not really much diff? |
| 15:45.32 | nevcairiel | its practically the delay between the request of the data and the memory delivering |
| 15:45.37 | nevcairiel | lower is better |
| 15:45.51 | chiel | alrighty |
| 15:46.04 | Timmeh | chiel: it's CAS Latency that's mentioned there |
| 15:46.05 | Timmeh | so yes |
| 15:46.09 | Timmeh | the lower the latency the better |
| 15:46.31 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 15:46.37 | chiel | yea, it only said CAS on the top thingy on pcpartpicker |
| 15:46.43 | Timmeh | ah |
| 15:46.48 | Timmeh | it's usually abbreviated CL |
| 15:46.48 | bluspacecow | I wanted it to be Caramel Apple Cinnamon |
| 15:46.49 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 15:46.52 | chiel | but on the side it did say CAS latency, only saw that after :p |
| 15:46.56 | nevcairiel | CL (short for CAS Latency) is usually between 9 and 11 for DDR3, as memory clock goes up, the CL usually goes down, and modules with low CL get more expensive, but for example 2133-CL9 is not that expensive |
| 15:47.14 | chiel | meh, they don't sell g.skill at that shop |
| 15:47.18 | Timmeh | bluspacecow: you can have some Caramel Apple Cinnamon if you want |
| 15:47.28 | bluspacecow | yay! |
| 15:48.15 | nevcairiel | of course CL is also linked to the clock, CL9 on 1600 is around the same time as CL12 on 2133 |
| 15:48.30 | nevcairiel | just because one clock cycle is much shorter |
| 15:49.04 | Fisker | loooooooooooooooooooool |
| 15:49.12 | Fisker | We were just about to get rid of java |
| 15:49.26 | Fisker | because our government was looking into a javascript based solution |
| 15:49.32 | Fisker | was supposed to start testing tomorrow |
| 15:49.44 | Fisker | Would be out and outphasing the old java by 1/1 2015 |
| 15:49.50 | Fisker | Now it's delayed indefinitely |
| 15:50.02 | pompy | https://twitter.com/noobde/statuses/468135438641676288 |
| 15:50.05 | pompy | heh |
| 15:50.37 | chiel | hmm, seems crucial doesn't have 16gb 2133-CL9 as 2 modules |
| 15:53.29 | chiel | aaand that shop doesn't seem to have any low profile corsair memory either |
| 15:59.50 | chiel | http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3RV4m <- this, then? |
| 16:00.13 | chiel | i didn't change the memory yet, mainly cause none of the ram i seem to find is LP |
| 16:03.26 | Megalon | does that site not have filters? |
| 16:03.41 | chiel | pcpartpicker? |
| 16:03.45 | Megalon | yea |
| 16:03.46 | chiel | it does, when you click on a part |
| 16:03.50 | chiel | filters are on the right |
| 16:03.59 | Megalon | but not for low profile? |
| 16:04.50 | chiel | nope :( |
| 16:05.05 | Megalon | love me some geizhals.at |
| 16:05.19 | Megalon | http://geizhals.at/eu/?cat=ramddr3&xf=254_1600~440_low+profile |
| 16:06.09 | Megalon | low profile, 1600mhz ram |
| 16:06.17 | chiel | fuckit, i'm gonna order :p |
| 16:06.28 | Timmeh | chiel: are you sure? |
| 16:06.31 | chiel | i will just be staring at ram for about a week otherwise |
| 16:06.40 | Timmeh | chiel: are you really sure? |
| 16:06.43 | chiel | yep |
| 16:07.11 | Fisker | I want my ram with spoilers, hydraulics and leds |
| 16:07.40 | chiel | well i mean, the crucial stuff seems fine anyway, and nobody can give me a great reason not to grab it aside from brand bias, so... :p |
| 16:08.02 | Timmeh | chiel: did you compare the endogenous cholesterol biosynthesus measured by deuterium incorporation and mass isotopomer distribution analysis? |
| 16:08.15 | Timmeh | chiel: I wouldn't just order if I were you! |
| 16:08.41 | chiel | xD |
| 16:09.11 | Megalon | order a hammer and pliers too |
| 16:09.22 | Megalon | you can make everything fit with that |
| 16:10.18 | chiel | lol :p |
| 16:11.00 | pompy | i used ram with leds once in 2008 |
| 16:11.05 | pompy | then a stick went bad! |
| 16:11.37 | Megalon | did one of the LEDs die? :< |
| 16:12.12 | chiel | anyway i have ordered, should have it all tomorrow |
| 16:12.18 | Timmeh | \o/ |
| 16:12.22 | Timmeh | chiel: oh all in stock? |
| 16:12.23 | Timmeh | nice |
| 16:12.53 | chiel | yarr |
| 16:12.59 | pompy | Megalon: possibly! |
| 16:13.06 | chiel | i'll let you know about my megekko experiences |
| 16:14.08 | Timmeh | sure, though I just found out Megekko doesn't have the Gigabyte video card, and only the ASUS one |
| 16:14.38 | chiel | ah k |
| 16:14.45 | Timmeh | so I'll have to check |
| 16:14.52 | Timmeh | it is cheaper than the rest of the shops for other stuff |
| 16:14.58 | Timmeh | so maybe I'll just order the video card somewhere else |
| 16:15.02 | Timmeh | or settle for the ASUS one |
| 16:16.17 | Timmeh | anyway |
| 16:16.22 | Timmeh | \o/ |
| 16:16.24 | Timmeh | new computers |
| 16:16.27 | Timmeh | chiel: \o/ |
| 16:18.32 | pompy | http://content.hwigroup.net/images/products/xl/172352/3/crucial_ballistix_tactical_tracer_4gb_ddr31600_cl8_kit.jpg these, i believe |
| 16:18.49 | chiel | \o/ |
| 16:20.05 | quiescens | go to sleep o.o |
| 16:22.49 | Timmeh | hah, http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=Radeon+HD+4870&id=30 |
| 16:22.56 | Timmeh | I'll be making quite a jump :-P |
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| 16:29.00 | chiel | alright see you guys later, and thanks for all the help! o/ |
| 16:46.30 | sb | ohai hotel |
| 16:49.47 | Stanzilla | sb: stundenhotel? |
| 16:57.24 | sb | nope |
| 16:57.27 | sb | regular |
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| 17:09.38 | quiescens | \o/ |
| 17:52.22 | sb | Gnarfoz: guldie already reserved guildnmame :D |
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| 18:49.28 | sb | meh |
| 18:49.33 | sb | nevcairiel: quassel has no config :| |
| 18:49.38 | sb | no outgoing ip adress and stuff |
| 18:51.05 | nevcairiel | screw outgoing ip shit |
| 18:51.37 | nevcairiel | who needs such stuff |
| 18:58.20 | sb | me |
| 19:01.25 | nevcairiel | maybe you should fix your priorities :P |
| 19:10.28 | Gnarfoz | sb: the usual? |
| 19:10.39 | Gnarfoz | or something less "bad German guild name generator" style |
| 19:11.28 | Gnarfoz | what, quassel can't bind to a specific IP? what |
| 19:12.35 | sb | Gnarfoz: our name |
| 19:13.27 | Gnarfoz | so bad German guild name generator, ok |
| 19:13.28 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 19:13.34 | Gnarfoz | doesn't really matter :D |
| 19:13.41 | Gnarfoz | any of you wear contact lenses? |
| 19:13.54 | Gnarfoz | how the HELL do I get them in my eyes >_> |
| 19:14.30 | Kalroth | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGOqlwnKWMY |
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| 19:16.16 | Gnarfoz | oo "woot I got a partnership"? he's 8 |
| 19:17.37 | Gnarfoz | ok, he's 10 |
| 19:18.19 | Kalroth | haha |
| 19:18.31 | Stanzilla | NEW MIRC BETA RELEASE GUISE |
| 19:21.41 | Gnarfoz | MIRC OK |
| 19:21.54 | Gnarfoz | "I never really get it in on my first try" |
| 19:22.02 | Gnarfoz | oh sweet innocent child ;P |
| 19:26.24 | Ressy | Gnarfoz, the trick, is to pull down your bottom lid, put it on the lower part of the eyeball, push on it a bit to push out the air trapped, then close your eye, and rub your lids to push it into place.. that extra rubbing will get any more air out. |
| 19:27.24 | Ressy | If its not inside out, it won't hurt. |
| 19:27.29 | Ressy | if its inside out, you'll be screaming |
| 19:27.46 | Stanzilla | same goes for condoms |
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| 19:29.10 | Ressy | I'll take your word for that Stanzilla. lol |
| 19:31.17 | Stanzilla | yeah really |
| 19:31.19 | Stanzilla | that can hurt |
| 19:51.41 | sb | Gnarfoz: its not guild name generator generated! :p |
| 19:51.50 | sb | well, tbh, i have no idea where it came from |
| 19:52.04 | sb | joined 3 months after release |
| 19:53.41 | sb | Stanzilla: do you try this from time to time? :| |
| 19:54.05 | sb | nvm, i dont want to know |
| 19:54.56 | Gnarfoz | Watch Doges? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idA9BEA4Hxs super physics |
| 19:55.06 | Gnarfoz | seems like it's super polished, too |
| 19:55.52 | Gnarfoz | sb: well, all I'm sayin' is it could be straight from here: http://www.waldhueter.de/page.php?go=generator&fraktion=horde :D |
| 19:56.20 | sb | meh, okay |
| 19:56.50 | Stanzilla | sb: no |
| 19:56.59 | Gnarfoz | derp, got "Brut der Verderbnis" |
| 19:57.00 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 19:57.02 | Gnarfoz | close! |
| 19:57.22 | sb | click more and get SdP :p |
| 19:57.41 | Gnarfoz | probably doable in alliance mode |
| 19:57.52 | Gnarfoz | lol this Watch Dogs video |
| 19:57.53 | Gnarfoz | amazing game |
| 19:58.17 | Stanzilla | amazingly broken, yeah |
| 19:58.30 | Gnarfoz | quite, yes :D |
| 19:58.33 | sb | so dont buy? :p |
| 19:59.01 | Gnarfoz | watch the vid and judge for yourself ^^ |
| 19:59.29 | sb | this is bad |
| 19:59.47 | Gnarfoz | I especially like the instant-stop trains |
| 20:10.26 | Gnarfoz | http://i.imgur.com/YIjoPPw.jpg |
| 20:12.41 | Gnarfoz | haha, another Watch Dogs gem: http://i.4cdn.org/v/1401216414933.webm |
| 20:15.34 | sb | nice |
| 20:27.24 | wink | http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/guildnamegenerator should still work ;) |
| 20:29.34 | wink | omg, that video is horrible |
| 20:29.37 | wink | the first one |
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| 20:49.26 | znf | No intrawebz :( |
| 20:57.17 | Megalon | at least you got interwebz |
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| 21:03.04 | sbdroid | okay, testing this :p |
| 21:04.56 | sb | not that bad |
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| 21:33.18 | znf | Jesus christ... I don't even have 3G |
| 21:33.31 | znf | I'm stuck on EDGE |
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| 21:41.20 | Stanzilla | why |
| 21:41.22 | Stanzilla | where are you |
| 21:43.15 | sb | sbdroid: test |
| 21:43.24 | sb | sbdroid: test |
| 21:43.27 | sb | looks fine |
| 22:04.54 | Sinaloit | In AceAddon modules can have modules can't they? (Is there an end to the insanity) |
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| 22:29.31 | nevcairiel | sure can |
| 22:29.34 | nevcairiel | but nothing special |
| 22:30.03 | nevcairiel | a module is practically just its own addon with one or two extra features |
| 22:30.14 | Stanzilla | germans: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SMPDvq84h4 |
| 22:31.23 | nevcairiel | thats not even funny, its just so bad |
| 22:33.26 | Sinaloit | thanks nevcairiel |
| 22:33.59 | nevcairiel | in any case, due to an module being just an addon, it can in turn have its own modules of course =P |
| 22:34.18 | nevcairiel | not sure why it matters though, doubtful anyone really uses modules of modules |
| 22:34.33 | nevcairiel | it just happens to be possible due to the way its written |
| 22:34.44 | nevcairiel | it wasn't specifically designed that way |
| 22:35.02 | nevcairiel | but the simplicity of the design simply allows it |
| 22:37.44 | Sinaloit | *nod* was trying to decide if i needed a recursive function or not |
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| 22:42.03 | Stanzilla | Fisker: Mountain View is making Google Play Music and All Access available in Poland and Denmark. |
| 22:42.04 | Stanzilla | gz! |
| 22:42.29 | Sinaloit | hah read that as Mountain Dew first glance |
| 22:57.39 | Fisker | Ilu Stanzilla |
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