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| 00:26.21 | Elmoe | Anyone figured out the new upgradeId values in the item link after the 5.4.8 changes? |
| 00:28.08 | Gnarfoz | I'd suggest they're the same the asians previously had |
| 00:28.28 | Gnarfoz | but they also got another set of upgrades on top of their previous, so that might not be accurate |
| 00:29.08 | Elmoe | hmm where can I find a list of the asian ones tot est them? |
| 00:29.27 | Elmoe | my table I have stops at 498 |
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| 00:35.23 | Gnarfoz | the AskMrRobot addon had a complete list last I checked |
| 00:35.31 | Gnarfoz | maybe theirs is already updated, too |
| 00:38.19 | Elmoe | Gnarfoz: thanks checking now |
| 00:44.04 | Elmoe | Gnarfoz: thanks they had it |
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| 01:03.22 | Stanzilla | znf: will you try the valor point trick? |
| 01:03.44 | znf | already did |
| 01:03.55 | znf | I mean, already capped and banked |
| 01:04.00 | znf | will see tomorow if it worked or not |
| 01:04.08 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 01:04.09 | Stanzilla | what did you buy |
| 01:04.35 | znf | neck from shado-pan assault |
| 01:05.42 | znf | didn't want to risk more than 1000 VPs |
| 01:07.03 | znf | fuck :( |
| 01:07.07 | znf | D3 servers going down |
| 01:07.42 | Gnarfoz | did they un-fix that? |
| 01:07.47 | Gnarfoz | or just fishing |
| 01:10.37 | znf | fishing |
| 01:10.51 | znf | I don't remember a bluepost noting they fixed that |
| 01:10.52 | znf | so, maybe... :D |
| 01:15.14 | Repo | libitemupgradeinfo-1-0: 03eridius 07master * v1.0.6 (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Add upgrade info for 5.4.8 |
| 01:15.15 | Repo | libitemupgradeinfo-1-0: 03eridius 04v1.0.6 * f0f2c50 /: [new tag] Tagging as v1.0.6 |
| 01:27.41 | Stanzilla | the youtube html5 player is actually pretty good now |
| 01:29.07 | znf | they need to fix the double-right-click-menu |
| 01:29.15 | Gnarfoz | thewhat |
| 01:29.38 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/usYtZ8z.png |
| 01:29.50 | Gnarfoz | not sure if you mean this, but, does your chrome have two different context menu's when right-clicking a text selection, the first time and the second time you right click? |
| 01:30.00 | Gnarfoz | (not related to yt or video at all) |
| 01:30.12 | znf | I get the browser menu, too, if I right click a video |
| 01:30.14 | znf | don't you? |
| 01:30.27 | Gnarfoz | I hadn't noticed, no |
| 01:32.58 | Stanzilla | znf: I only get the html5 one |
| 01:33.05 | znf | hmmm |
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| 01:35.26 | znf | yay, new feature for the iOS app of IRCCLoud |
| 01:36.27 | Gnarfoz | does it reject chat messages from poor countries? |
| 01:36.52 | znf | beats Gnarfoz with a stick |
| 01:36.54 | Gnarfoz | or filter "huehuehue" |
| 01:37.01 | znf | now I can log on to imgur from it! |
| 01:37.17 | Gnarfoz | naw man, Romania is cool |
| 01:37.21 | Gnarfoz | you have Lidl! |
| 01:37.24 | Gnarfoz | and gigabit |
| 01:37.26 | Stanzilla | why do single player games bore me so fast |
| 01:37.28 | Stanzilla | so spoiled |
| 01:37.31 | Gnarfoz | all I need |
| 01:37.47 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: beware, the next step from single player games is console gaming |
| 01:38.01 | Stanzilla | and then console single player gaming? |
| 01:38.03 | znf | Stanzilla, I'm in the same boat |
| 01:38.10 | znf | I can't play single player games for too long |
| 01:38.14 | Gnarfoz | if you don't pay attention, next you look, you'll be a dirty console peasant |
| 01:38.27 | znf | I love co-op games, multiplayer games |
| 01:38.56 | znf | ow, man, I miss a good co-op game |
| 01:40.58 | znf | too bad Sven Co-Op died :( |
| 02:14.01 | quiescens | go to sleep |
| 02:15.23 | znf | nope |
| 02:15.24 | znf | coding |
| 02:18.43 | quiescens | sleep o.o |
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| 02:32.20 | Stanzilla | man why does not a single game detect that I've seen this cut scene for the 10th time and just skips it |
| 02:34.06 | Stanzilla | also my windows got painted today (remember teh guy talking to himself, yes he again) |
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| 02:34.17 | Stanzilla | now guess which clever animal has a white patch on his black fur |
| 02:35.39 | Stanzilla | https://scontent-b-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t31.0-8/1274030_606472942727272_1776180592_o.jpg this guy |
| 02:35.43 | Gnarfoz | whatever Stinktier is |
| 02:35.49 | Gnarfoz | I forget |
| 02:36.11 | Stanzilla | :( |
| 02:36.32 | Stanzilla | he only smells if he forgets to clean his ass properly! |
| 02:36.38 | Gnarfoz | sky is brightening up |
| 02:36.42 | Gnarfoz | bad sign :D |
| 02:37.07 | Stanzilla | still dark here |
| 02:37.50 | Stanzilla | I'm so mad at this game right now |
| 02:39.01 | Gnarfoz | quite unlikely that your sky should still be dark |
| 02:39.03 | Gnarfoz | considering you're east of me :P |
| 02:39.12 | Stanzilla | I have windows |
| 02:39.14 | Stanzilla | I can see it |
| 02:39.31 | Stanzilla | please no OS joke now |
| 02:40.14 | Gnarfoz | hmm t-shirt straight from the closet smells weird |
| 02:40.26 | Gnarfoz | not sure of what exactly oO |
| 02:40.43 | Gnarfoz | anyway, one more try at sleepz |
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| 04:05.26 | znf | Stanzilla, http://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/2630e9/how_did_this_guy_upgrade_ten_items_already/ |
| 04:05.28 | znf | BAH |
| 04:05.30 | znf | it works |
| 04:05.46 | znf | and I only did it with 825 VPs :P |
| 04:05.48 | znf | such a shame |
| 04:06.23 | znf | should have gone for 1000+ banked, not just 825 :P |
| 04:07.24 | Stanzilla | hah :D |
| 04:26.48 | pompy | tisk ttisk tisk! ;) |
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| 06:38.39 | sb | morning |
| 06:38.43 | sb | 04:40 < Gnarfoz> anyway, one more try at sleepz |
| 06:38.48 | sb | you are a very sick person |
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| 06:53.02 | Stanzilla | yes he is |
| 06:53.09 | Stanzilla | no wonder he needs all the energy drinks |
| 06:59.36 | sb | what energy drinks? |
| 06:59.58 | Stanzilla | I forgot |
| 07:00.30 | sb | oh, java engineers |
| 07:00.44 | sb | hello san francisco! :p |
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| 07:31.57 | quiescens | moo? |
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| 08:03.59 | Timmeh | quiescens: .o/ |
| 08:04.57 | chiel | moo. |
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| 08:08.07 | chiel | i noticed yesterday how easy it is to cap valour once you already capped one |
| 08:08.25 | chiel | and also, i'll get my meta gem this week on my warrior \o/ |
| 08:08.32 | chiel | and hopefully my monk, too |
| 08:10.04 | chiel | i should check what else i need though once i've gotten the 20 secrets, cause i actually have no clue |
| 08:10.40 | nevcairiel | i'm still on the damn collection quest one before the last |
| 08:10.43 | nevcairiel | i'll never finish it! |
| 08:11.24 | nevcairiel | which reminds me, how did this actually work these days, if i did SoO 1+2, does it still drop from ToT? or was that either-or? |
| 08:12.03 | sb | should be ToT and SoO |
| 08:12.10 | chiel | ah shiet, it looks like i'll need to collect more items after that |
| 08:12.11 | chiel | runestones |
| 08:12.21 | chiel | nevcairiel: which collection quest? the sigils? |
| 08:13.15 | chiel | or the chimera of fear? |
| 08:13.27 | nevcairiel | maybe we are on the same step then if you're not on the last |
| 08:14.05 | sb | my mage is on step #1 \o/ (10+10 from first instances - and now terrace / sha item) |
| 08:15.10 | nevcairiel | i'll just login and check! |
| 08:15.46 | nevcairiel | yeah i'm collecting secrets of the empire, and i got 9 |
| 08:17.20 | nevcairiel | hm i could login but now it lags like mad :D |
| 08:17.32 | nevcairiel | cant cast anything |
| 08:19.05 | sb | stop dl'ing pr0n |
| 08:19.50 | nevcairiel | ping is fine, the server is teh br0ke |
| 08:21.29 | nevcairiel | cant even logout :D |
| 08:27.10 | chiel | hahaha |
| 08:27.12 | chiel | niiice |
| 08:27.20 | chiel | i'm at 18 secrets on my warrior |
| 08:27.26 | chiel | and i believe... 14, on my monk |
| 08:28.04 | nevcairiel | i remember figuring out some time ago that even though i'm collecting this in SoO already, its still not the last, and most motivation to finish it left me |
| 08:28.31 | chiel | yea, i've been running ToT for the bloody things |
| 08:28.42 | chiel | so i think this week i'll start with ToT p1+2, to hopefully get the last two |
| 08:28.50 | chiel | then i think i need to collect runestones |
| 08:28.57 | nevcairiel | dont they only drop in ToT 3+4 |
| 08:29.13 | sb | secrets? there are 100% drops |
| 08:29.28 | sb | lei shen and sha of pride |
| 08:29.50 | sb | and no nevcairiel, all bosses in ToT |
| 08:29.58 | nevcairiel | but only soo 1+2, right? |
| 08:30.00 | sb | yup |
| 08:30.54 | nevcairiel | oh its the next one that only drops from tot 3+4 |
| 08:31.15 | nevcairiel | and its "only" 12^! |
| 08:32.24 | nebula169 | soooon, they'll drop from mobs in the world! |
| 08:32.48 | chiel | runestones is only 3+4 in ToT, ya |
| 08:32.54 | chiel | secrets also drop from SoO 1+2 |
| 08:33.18 | chiel | so 20 bosses in total have a chance of dropping secrets |
| 08:33.19 | nevcairiel | runestones are also soo 1+2 |
| 08:33.26 | chiel | are they? |
| 08:33.27 | sb | yup |
| 08:33.31 | chiel | oh |
| 08:33.38 | chiel | THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING (no it doesn't) |
| 08:33.42 | sb | and again, lei shen + sha of pride 100% droprate |
| 08:33.54 | chiel | that's kinda the annoying thing though, having been gone for 1,5 year... am so far behind |
| 08:33.58 | chiel | and catching up is a bitch |
| 08:34.29 | nevcairiel | hrm and then i need to collect damn timeless isle points |
| 08:34.58 | nevcairiel | i really dislike that place |
| 08:35.28 | nevcairiel | would've been way easier if i had to do that when I hadnt done the quests on the isle yet :P |
| 08:36.31 | chiel | timeless isle points? |
| 08:36.34 | chiel | you mean the coins, or? |
| 08:36.37 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 08:36.43 | chiel | what do you need the coins for? |
| 08:36.51 | nevcairiel | http://www.wowhead.com/quest=33098 |
| 08:37.12 | nevcairiel | i guess 5000 is not that many though |
| 08:37.28 | chiel | ah |
| 08:37.35 | chiel | that's like 5 rares, or something |
| 08:37.38 | nebula169 | i'm 15k away from the mount! fucking hate that island though |
| 08:37.43 | chiel | maybe more, maybe less, depending on the rares |
| 08:37.50 | chiel | yea, it's a shitty place |
| 08:37.52 | nevcairiel | i dunno how so many people like that place |
| 08:38.04 | chiel | i should kinda farm some though, cause of my warrior's dps gear, haha |
| 08:38.07 | chiel | it's like 489 ilvl :D |
| 08:38.09 | chiel | fucking amazing |
| 08:38.13 | nebula169 | just endlessly running around in circles zerging rares, so boring |
| 08:38.27 | chiel | i prefer the isle of giants |
| 08:38.31 | chiel | it's so fucking pretty there |
| 08:38.44 | chiel | i mean, it's just got a bunch of hard-to-kill elites walking around on it... but it looks nice |
| 08:39.44 | chiel | but yea, so it seems first i need secrets, then i need runestones, then lei-shens heart |
| 08:40.09 | chiel | and then... some more stuff, i don't actually know :D |
| 08:40.34 | nevcairiel | the coins, kill all celestials, kill garrosh |
| 08:40.35 | nevcairiel | or something |
| 08:41.34 | silentium | for the 5k timeless coins you could also just loot a bunch of chests if you haven't done so yet, their positions are listed at http://wow.icy-veins.com/timeless-isle#sec-7-2 |
| 08:41.49 | nevcairiel | I may even still have 5k coins |
| 08:42.29 | silentium | that's how I got my 5k coins without killing any rares |
| 08:42.32 | chiel | ah well, should be fairly trivial to farm them i suppose |
| 08:42.40 | nevcairiel | 3300 left, oh well, not too many |
| 08:42.51 | chiel | but it's nice to know that i'll at least get my meta gem this week |
| 08:42.52 | nevcairiel | i spend most of the quest and chest coins on things |
| 08:43.01 | chiel | most likely on both characters |
| 08:43.04 | nevcairiel | game still broken |
| 08:43.40 | chiel | hehe :p |
| 08:43.48 | chiel | well i'll see what happens tonight when i get home :p |
| 08:44.08 | nevcairiel | maybe i'll start running lfr again to get this done some time, would be a shame to not finish the line at all |
| 08:46.27 | nevcairiel | but yeah, its terrible when you took a break |
| 08:46.34 | nevcairiel | i practically didnt play between 5.0 and 5.4 |
| 08:57.18 | chiel | hmm i stopped during t14 |
| 08:57.25 | chiel | returned about 3 weeks ago or so |
| 08:57.33 | chiel | catching up is a nightmare |
| 08:57.49 | chiel | catching up in pve means you should pvp, more or less, if you want to do it within reasonable time |
| 09:12.22 | Funkeh` | http://cheezburger.com/8193250816 |
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| 09:23.03 | chiel | hah, yea saw that one |
| 09:23.09 | chiel | but sadly, it's a troll account :( |
| 09:25.56 | Repo | skada: 03funkydude * r548 (3 files in 2 directories): |
| 09:25.56 | Repo | Revert r540, addition of svn:externals. Let's keep it like 99% of other wowace addons, thanks. |
| 09:28.29 | quiescens | o.o |
| 09:36.19 | nevcairiel | chiel: sadly, quite a whole bunch of people are that dumb |
| 09:38.15 | chiel | nevcairiel: aye, but i looked at the actual account |
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| 09:39.32 | nevcairiel | credit cards are a insecure thing as it is anyway, any shop clerk could easily collect hundreds of numbers and security codes |
| 09:40.27 | chiel | yep :p |
| 09:40.36 | chiel | i think they're pretty ridiculous... but oh well |
| 09:40.52 | Funkeh` | I think that depends on what system you have in your country |
| 09:40.58 | chiel | nevcairiel, is it possible to make minimapster rectangular with little to no effort? :p |
| 09:41.15 | chiel | in holland creditcards aren't very popular |
| 09:41.22 | chiel | i don't have one |
| 09:41.27 | Funkeh` | here in the UK you use a separate machine, the clerk is no way interfaces with that other than to press "using card" on their machine to active the paypoint |
| 09:41.30 | chiel | which makes buying stuff online a pain in the ass sometimes |
| 09:41.35 | nebula169 | not everyone is cool enough to have chip and pin |
| 09:41.48 | chiel | chip has been phased out here |
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| 09:43.58 | nevcairiel | isnt chip the new thing :p |
| 09:44.04 | nevcairiel | the magnet stripe is insecure, or something |
| 09:44.20 | nevcairiel | chiel: did you check the options? it should be as simple as changing one :p |
| 09:44.24 | Funkeh` | heh, it's quite funny if you drive through mcdonalds or [insert fast food restaurant] they hand you the machine through your window to put your card in |
| 09:44.54 | chiel | nevcairiel: ah yea true, i thought you meant chip as the thing where you charged it... and then could pay with it |
| 09:44.59 | chiel | but yes, nowadays you pay with chip |
| 09:45.05 | chiel | ...but you don't charge it |
| 09:45.09 | quiescens | mm chips |
| 09:45.13 | nevcairiel | they have those machines here as well, but you still kinda have to show them the card at the very least for the signature check |
| 09:45.25 | chiel | nevcairiel: i... did, it was a few days ago, thought it was square only :) |
| 09:45.36 | nevcairiel | square is rectangular |
| 09:45.45 | chiel | well |
| 09:45.45 | chiel | yes |
| 09:45.51 | chiel | but you know what i mean :p |
| 09:46.01 | nevcairiel | then no, you cant make the minimap not square |
| 09:46.05 | chiel | i want it to be a bit wider so i can line it up with my damage meter which goes above it |
| 09:46.13 | chiel | cause otherwise it's kinda cramped |
| 09:46.26 | nevcairiel | i'm not sure the minimap itself lets itself be resized that way |
| 09:46.49 | quiescens | nev: to my knowledge they're phasing out the signature thingy for credit cards here |
| 09:47.11 | nevcairiel | i mostly pay with my maestro card in shops anyway |
| 09:47.27 | nevcairiel | i only got the credit card for a few internet things, and travels |
| 09:47.33 | chiel | hmm well, i've seen interfaces with rectangular minimaps, not sure how it's achieved under the hood though |
| 09:47.45 | chiel | that qusemap does it, but i'm not really a fan of all the additional shit it does |
| 09:47.53 | nevcairiel | i suppose you could cut a bit off on one side |
| 09:48.08 | Timmeh | you could probably cut it off yea, maybe even on both sides, I'd guess.. |
| 09:48.17 | chiel | yea, maybe that's how it does it, with a texture i guess it is |
| 09:48.27 | Timmeh | but for viewing/moving/scaling purposes, the game will probably still assume you see the whole square |
| 09:48.31 | chiel | i'm not actually entirely sure how textures work in wow, but... something like that :D |
| 09:48.35 | chiel | yes, i imagine so |
| 09:48.46 | nevcairiel | the minimap is special, you apply a mask to it to get the shape you want |
| 09:48.52 | nevcairiel | ie the round variant has a round mask |
| 09:49.00 | chiel | i guess i'll drop my damage meter to the side of it, rather than above it :) |
| 09:49.00 | Timmeh | right, that makes sense |
| 09:49.12 | chiel | yea, thought it was something like that |
| 09:49.39 | quiescens | can you make the map spiral shaped? |
| 09:49.47 | chiel | that qusemap has a limitation where you cannot move it closer than x amount of pixture to the window boundaries due to how the masking works, it seems |
| 09:49.50 | nevcairiel | you could make the minimap bigger in general, then its also wieder |
| 09:49.50 | Timmeh | can you make the map quiescens shaped? |
| 09:50.00 | nevcairiel | wider* |
| 09:50.07 | quiescens | o.o |
| 09:50.09 | chiel | yea true |
| 09:50.26 | chiel | i don't recall seeing a scale option in minimapster though, but i may have been tired and stuff :p |
| 09:50.34 | nevcairiel | scale is there |
| 09:50.42 | Timmeh | I use chinchilla I think for the minimap, have used that forever :-D |
| 09:50.50 | nevcairiel | non-square rect shapes are out of scope for minimapster, i guess |
| 09:51.01 | chiel | hey yea that's fine man :) |
| 09:51.22 | chiel | i think i'll just keep it square and make it a bit larger, cause i have a high resolution anyway |
| 09:51.32 | Timmeh | chiel: http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/chinchilla |
| 09:51.37 | Timmeh | no clue if there is better stuff out there |
| 09:51.43 | chiel | yea i used chinchilla way back in the day |
| 09:51.43 | Timmeh | but chinchilla's worked for me for ages :-P |
| 09:51.58 | sb | well, yes, there are better addons :p |
| 09:52.05 | chiel | but i actually like minimapster a lot, exactly because it does so little |
| 09:52.09 | sb | because ckk |
| 09:52.15 | Timmeh | sb: hah |
| 09:52.18 | nevcairiel | the problem with a rect shape is that it'll mess with all sorts of things |
| 09:52.40 | Repo | skada: 03oscarucb * r549 : |
| 09:52.42 | Repo | Revert r548 and restore svn:externals, so a checkout actually works and contains the required libraries |
| 09:52.42 | Repo | If you don't like this behavior use svn --ignore-externals |
| 09:52.46 | sb | oh, its not that bad anymore i guess |
| 09:53.20 | nevcairiel | we have a "standard" for the minimap addon to report its shape to other addons wanting to know, so that they can implement proper movement and position of minimap icons for example, and rect is not only a shape, you also need to know the width/height ratio then |
| 09:53.24 | chiel | aye, i did think about the arrows etc and whatnot |
| 09:53.45 | nevcairiel | also yay revert war |
| 09:53.51 | Timmeh | moar reverts! |
| 09:53.56 | quiescens | \o/ |
| 09:54.00 | quiescens | /blame timmeh |
| 09:54.05 | Funkeh` | sigh |
| 09:54.21 | Timmeh | /blamechain Funkeh` |
| 09:55.05 | Funkeh` | I have work soon so I'm not even going to start, Ill revert that idiocy later |
| 09:55.11 | oscarucb | dude |
| 09:55.24 | quiescens | fight! fight! |
| 09:55.26 | oscarucb | use svn --ignore-externals, that's what its for |
| 09:55.34 | Funkeh` | I don't use command line |
| 09:55.44 | chiel | dare i adk what idiocy? :D |
| 09:55.48 | nevcairiel | there is a checkbox for it i'm sure =p |
| 09:55.52 | oscarucb | ^ |
| 09:56.09 | nevcairiel | also, use disembeded libraries, thats what they are for! |
| 09:56.14 | Funkeh` | my client requires having a global setting of it "off" for all repos |
| 09:56.25 | Funkeh` | or jumping through hoops to turn it off for every update |
| 09:56.28 | Timmeh | I should really set up my stuff disembeded.. I guess that's a goal for next expansion |
| 09:56.40 | Funkeh` | but it has had no externals set for years and it has been fine |
| 09:56.46 | Funkeh` | same with all other wowace addons |
| 09:56.50 | Funkeh` | no reason to start now |
| 09:56.55 | oscarucb | as the one doing most of the development on Skada right now I reserve the right to have it the way I want it |
| 09:56.56 | chiel | disembeded? how do you mean |
| 09:57.09 | Funkeh` | oscarucb, lol what? |
| 09:57.29 | oscarucb | why do you even care? |
| 09:57.32 | Timmeh | disembedded* |
| 09:57.34 | Funkeh` | you really are still a total fuckwit after all these days |
| 09:57.39 | Funkeh` | days? years |
| 09:57.41 | chiel | Timmeh: yea yea whatever :D |
| 09:57.53 | Timmeh | chiel: oh, I actually corrected my own typo :-P |
| 09:57.58 | oscarucb | Funk you seriously just need to chill man |
| 09:58.13 | chiel | anyway what did you mean Timmeh? your addons or what? |
| 09:58.54 | Funkeh` | oscarucb, just because Im not active with addon dev right now doesn't give you the "right to the throne" |
| 09:59.07 | Timmeh | chiel: you can have the wowace packager package your addons with and without libs |
| 09:59.26 | Timmeh | chiel: if you decide to use stuff without external libs (i.e. disembedded), you'll have to get the external libs manually |
| 09:59.38 | Timmeh | chiel: but you get more flexibility in versions to use / local changes to make |
| 09:59.41 | Timmeh | or well, it'll be easier to do so |
| 10:00.05 | oscarucb | funk: learn to use your svn client so you don't have to delete useful information from repositories |
| 10:00.13 | Repo | libbabble-creaturetype-3-0: 03nevcairiel * r137 LibBabble-CreatureType-3.0.lua: |
| 10:00.14 | Repo | Automated LibBabble re-generation from the localization system |
| 10:00.24 | Repo | libbabble-inventory-3-0: 03nevcairiel * r177 LibBabble-Inventory-3.0.lua: |
| 10:00.26 | Repo | Automated LibBabble re-generation from the localization system |
| 10:00.32 | Funkeh` | It's not useful, hence why it was removed from wowace repositories |
| 10:00.36 | Timmeh | chiel: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/projects/library-setup/ |
| 10:00.45 | oscarucb | I disagree - it's quite useful |
| 10:00.57 | chiel | Timmeh: ah right, i don't publish addons :D |
| 10:01.00 | oscarucb | and it works perfectly well with a correct svn setup |
| 10:01.49 | chiel | i'll just be installing the libs i need alongside the addons i write for my own purposes and be done with it :p |
| 10:02.19 | Funkeh` | ugh I don't have time for this, we can discuss it later |
| 10:02.19 | Timmeh | well, same thing goes for that, you can have the libs installed with every addon, or just once "globally" |
| 10:03.21 | Timmeh | chiel: I kinda want to make my Interface/AddOns version managed at some point, to see how that'd go >_> |
| 10:03.25 | Timmeh | chiel: it'll keep that cleaner as well |
| 10:03.37 | Timmeh | and I'll use git, so I don't have to get into a discussion with Funkeh` and oscarucb :-D |
| 10:04.11 | Repo | libbabble-creaturetype-3-0: 03nevcairiel 045.4-release-15 * r138 : Weekly Tag - #-15 |
| 10:04.16 | Repo | libbabble-inventory-3-0: 03nevcairiel 045.4-release-15 * r178 : Weekly Tag - #-15 |
| 10:04.36 | nevcairiel | hm the number got screwed up, oh well |
| 10:04.57 | chiel | Timmeh: yea, i've chucked my ui into a git repo now, but have not yet published anything |
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| 10:05.29 | chiel | the thing is, i don't really fancy the idea of keeping other people's code in my repo |
| 10:05.51 | chiel | but at the same time, can't really use submodules when most of wow's addon community hosts it's shit on svn :p |
| 10:05.59 | chiel | aaaand i don't want to use svn |
| 10:06.51 | Timmeh | well, I just plan on keeping wowace-packaged versions of the addons in my Interface/AddOns repo anyway |
| 10:07.00 | Timmeh | even of my own addons |
| 10:07.23 | Timmeh | I have a bunch of local changes to some addons, which I'd just keep in a separate commit |
| 10:07.27 | Timmeh | (or commitS) |
| 10:07.54 | Timmeh | and I'd just rebase those local changes on top of stuff after I updated the addons |
| 10:07.59 | Timmeh | so I don't have to reapply manually |
| 10:08.33 | chiel | well i kinda wanted to keep the git repo just inside the wow folder, and also have the relevant WTF stuff in there |
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| 10:08.41 | chiel | and fonts, i guess |
| 10:09.07 | Timmeh | I was thinking about a separate WTF repo, but I kinda see problems with random ordering every now and then of the WTF files by WoW :-P |
| 10:09.13 | Timmeh | as in, the order inside the WTF files |
| 10:10.00 | nevcairiel | some people have scripts to sort the files first |
| 10:10.06 | Timmeh | yea, was thinking about that |
| 10:10.13 | Timmeh | a pre-commit hook, basically |
| 10:10.56 | chiel | yea, saw that |
| 10:11.01 | chiel | you need key-ordering or something |
| 10:11.03 | chiel | kinda annoying |
| 10:13.12 | chiel | but i think today will be the day that i finally work a but on an oUF layout, been meaning to for like a week but haven't really had much time for it |
| 10:21.56 | chiel | hungry. >_> |
| 10:31.24 | quiescens | gives chiel a cookie |
| 10:32.38 | Humbedooh | quiescens: you've blown it all sky high |
| 10:32.45 | Humbedooh | by telling me a lie :( |
| 10:32.51 | Humbedooh | without a reason why! |
| 10:33.01 | Humbedooh | stabs quiescens with a butter knife |
| 10:33.27 | chiel | quiescens: not helping! making me more hungry :p |
| 10:33.33 | chiel | anyway, lunchtime, wooo |
| 10:33.36 | chiel | gonna nom |
| 10:33.38 | chiel | brb |
| 10:33.40 | Humbedooh | omnomnom |
| 10:33.56 | quiescens | dies. |
| 10:34.09 | Humbedooh | revives quiescens with a bar of chocolate |
| 10:34.24 | Humbedooh | behold the wonders of revivification! |
| 10:34.31 | quiescens | o.o |
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| 10:58.38 | chiel | ahhhhhahhahhhh that's better |
| 10:59.16 | chiel | oh damn, dunno why it did ahhhh twice |
| 10:59.17 | chiel | oh well |
| 10:59.29 | Timmeh | thrice* |
| 11:00.05 | chiel | oh yea |
| 11:00.06 | chiel | : |
| 11:00.15 | chiel | i need to install lua on this thing |
| 11:10.03 | Timmeh | chiel: iirc it's Lua 5.1 that you'll want |
| 11:13.11 | chiel | `brew install lua` -> /usr/local/Cellar/lua/5.1.5: 15 files, 276K |
| 11:15.01 | Timmeh | there are a few "custom" things about WoW's Lua API, in case you notice not everything working |
| 11:16.05 | Timmeh | like a lot of string module functions are globally available as str<method> instead of string.<method> (like strmatch, instead of string.match) |
| 11:16.10 | chiel | well, i'll mostly start with creating some basic oUF layout, what i want is really simple :) |
| 11:16.21 | Timmeh | k |
| 11:16.25 | Timmeh | I have no idea about oUF :-) |
| 11:16.37 | chiel | ^^ |
| 11:16.47 | chiel | i made a layout in it before, quite like it |
| 11:16.56 | Timmeh | do you create a layout just as a bunch of lua functions / objects? |
| 11:17.11 | chiel | but there was some stuff that had to be taken care of when it came to combat restrictions and such |
| 11:17.19 | chiel | yes, you create frames etc yourself |
| 11:17.31 | chiel | oUF just handles most of the registering events and shit like that |
| 11:18.52 | Timmeh | I see |
| 11:20.01 | chiel | it's a pretty nice framework |
| 11:20.11 | chiel | i guess using it is probably overkill for me, since what i want is very simple |
| 11:20.15 | chiel | but... idk, i like coding |
| 11:20.25 | Xuerian | Good fit then, tbh |
| 11:20.32 | nevcairiel | i got too lazy at some point |
| 11:21.21 | chiel | yea, i just want something very simple, but i have ocd and stuff... so i try to optimise everything |
| 11:21.34 | chiel | it's a problem sometimes at work, cause i sometimes optimise prematurely and such |
| 11:21.37 | chiel | kinda stupid, but oh well |
| 11:21.54 | chiel | and nevcairiel, i have the same... but this time i'll keep it all in a git repo so it'll be easier to make iterations |
| 11:22.06 | chiel | like i might just do player/target first... and then add other frames later |
| 11:22.18 | Timmeh | it sounds interesting |
| 11:22.26 | nevcairiel | i still have https://github.com/Nevcairiel/ouf_nev .. but i just gave up eventually when i needed some more features |
| 11:22.35 | nevcairiel | probably doesnt even work anymore these days |
| 11:22.38 | chiel | source is https://github.com/haste/oUF :) |
| 11:22.46 | chiel | if you wanna have a look, Timmeh |
| 11:23.03 | Timmeh | I generally prefer coding against a clear API to be sure things work the way I tell them to, over having to nudge things around and hoping it stays in the right place :-P |
| 11:23.04 | chiel | nevcairiel: ah yes, 2010 is fairly old haha :p |
| 11:23.17 | chiel | well, then ouf might be nice for you |
| 11:23.28 | chiel | you can position things pretty precisely |
| 11:23.41 | chiel | i much prefer editing the savedvariables lua files as well, rather than using guis |
| 11:23.56 | chiel | but meh, with weakauras that's not really an option :D |
| 11:24.02 | chiel | though i did fix some colours in there |
| 11:24.31 | Timmeh | whenever I create a new character, I actually sed my savedvariables to add the new character's config even before the first time I log it -.- |
| 11:25.01 | chiel | i do remember that getting the dropdowns on frames to work was a bit of a pain in the ass, had some issues with it... but probably i was just being a retard :p |
| 11:25.46 | Timmeh | actually, lately that's been grepping files for a char name, and opening them in vim, to add the new profile lines, etc., since my WTF folder is a bit of a mess |
| 11:25.49 | Timmeh | <_< |
| 11:25.50 | nevcairiel | i've always kinda thought i might re-create my layout some day |
| 11:25.55 | nevcairiel | but you know how it goes |
| 11:26.02 | chiel | know all too well haha |
| 11:26.08 | Timmeh | I did it at the end of cata |
| 11:26.16 | Timmeh | I kinda enjoy doing it |
| 11:26.21 | Timmeh | but SO MUCH WORK TO GET IT PURRFECT |
| 11:26.40 | chiel | on my monk at the moment, i have my weakauras set up more or less set up like touchy mcfeel has in his tank ui preview video, it's quite nice |
| 11:27.10 | chiel | i do enjoy doing it, but the issues with blurry borders and also the font rendering engine being somewhat meh is a pita |
| 11:27.43 | Xuerian | I just ended up putting numbers for buffs and shit on the frames themselves. Nothing pretty, just numbers. |
| 11:29.53 | chiel | for me it basically comes down to 3 bars in the middle of my screen: gcd, energy and chi |
| 11:30.13 | Timmeh | you don't care about health? :-D |
| 11:30.14 | chiel | and then cooldowns for abilities that have a cooldown in my main rotation |
| 11:30.22 | chiel | Timmeh: i still have a regular unit frame :p |
| 11:30.25 | chiel | just the default wow ones |
| 11:30.30 | Timmeh | oh |
| 11:30.31 | chiel | nothing fancy, but it's a temporary thing |
| 11:30.47 | chiel | that's why i wanna make some unit frames, cause then i can get rid of a few of those weakauras |
| 11:31.02 | Xuerian | oUF layouts are fun if you are just lazy enough though either way |
| 11:32.20 | chiel | ^^ |
| 11:32.21 | nevcairiel | i wonder how much oUF changed since 2010 |
| 11:32.39 | Xuerian | .. probably not a lot |
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| 11:33.04 | chiel | yea probably not much, just the essentials |
| 11:33.06 | Xuerian | Well maybe a little, I'm bad with dates, that may have been on the tail end of it stabilizing |
| 11:33.08 | nevcairiel | maybe i'll find motivation some day |
| 11:33.18 | chiel | i imagine it somewhat acts like an adapter layer to wow's apis |
| 11:33.23 | nevcairiel | granted it was 1.5 back then and now its just 1.6 |
| 11:33.35 | nevcairiel | so probably not much |
| 11:33.40 | chiel | i quite like the way this guy has his player + target set up: http://i.imgur.com/RGZBc.jpg |
| 11:33.43 | Xuerian | Yeah, not much. Probably a couple new modules |
| 11:34.10 | chiel | so i might look into doing something similar |
| 11:34.23 | Timmeh | omg stealing ui! |
| 11:34.33 | chiel | all uis are stolen :p |
| 11:34.38 | Xuerian | you can't do that |
| 11:34.46 | Xuerian | mojang owns copyright |
| 11:34.55 | chiel | haha |
| 11:35.03 | Timmeh | that's like a celebrity showing up in a dress some other celebrity wore to a different event that same year! |
| 11:35.22 | Timmeh | it's not done! |
| 11:35.29 | Timmeh | you'll be talked about, pointed at, laughed at, etc. |
| 11:35.34 | Timmeh | like totes! |
| 11:35.56 | chiel | yes, totes |
| 11:36.30 | chiel | one big thing that i did the other day, was turning off floating combat text entirely |
| 11:36.41 | chiel | things instantly became so much clearer, was ridiculous |
| 11:37.02 | Timmeh | I did that as well, then I did miss getting some of the information sometimes, so I installed eavesdrop |
| 11:37.26 | Xuerian | clearly separating it, toning it down then putting it off to the side helped. |
| 11:37.48 | Timmeh | chiel: http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/eaves-drop |
| 11:38.07 | chiel | yea, i will get something back at some point, cause i do like seeing things like immunities etc |
| 11:38.12 | chiel | but for now.. i'm keeping it off :) |
| 11:38.19 | Timmeh | yea, I have it heavily filtered :-) |
| 11:38.41 | chiel | i'll probably get some scrolling combat text thing that just shows immunities, parries, dodges etc... the latter two should not happen since i'm hit + exp capped, but still |
| 11:39.01 | chiel | i know there's a few different addons that can help in that arena though |
| 11:39.20 | Xuerian | the power of msbt compels you |
| 11:39.25 | Xuerian | .. that's still a thing, right? |
| 11:39.35 | quiescens | go to sleep |
| 11:39.40 | Xuerian | ... |
| 11:39.47 | Timmeh | last scrolling combat text I used was SCT and SCT:Damage :-D |
| 11:39.51 | Xuerian | but mom :( |
| 11:39.53 | Timmeh | does that still exist? |
| 11:40.29 | chiel | idk the exact names haha |
| 11:40.37 | chiel | the one i used way back in the day was parrot |
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| 11:41.02 | Timmeh | how does purl work again? |
| 11:41.07 | Timmeh | @project scrolling-combat-text |
| 11:41.12 | quiescens | pats purl |
| 11:41.14 | Timmeh | !@project scrolling-combat-text |
| 11:41.15 | Timmeh | !project scrolling-combat-text |
| 11:41.18 | Timmeh | boo! |
| 11:41.19 | Humbedooh | Torhal: !! |
| 11:41.36 | chiel | xD |
| 11:41.47 | Humbedooh | stuffs Torhal inside a beagleboard |
| 11:42.14 | chiel | yesterday i actually did some lfrs again on my warrior, hadn't played him for about a week since i was getting used to my monk... it immediately occurred to me how much simpler warriors are to play, haha |
| 11:42.20 | chiel | though i guess it might just be the experience |
| 11:42.35 | Timmeh | s/oo/oooooooo/ |
| 11:42.43 | Timmeh | oh, purl does work |
| 11:42.48 | Timmeh | I'm just doing it wrong, probably :-( |
| 11:42.52 | quiescens | gives purl a cookie |
| 11:42.56 | quiescens | i think you are trying to use repo |
| 11:43.00 | Timmeh | oh! |
| 11:43.02 | Timmeh | probably |
| 11:43.05 | Humbedooh | Repo is broken as always! |
| 11:43.20 | Humbedooh | Repo: ping |
| 11:43.22 | Humbedooh | :( |
| 11:43.43 | chiel | hehe |
| 11:43.47 | chiel | anyway, i know sct :p |
| 11:43.54 | quiescens | @ping |
| 11:44.02 | Timmeh | @cookie |
| 11:44.08 | Humbedooh | mmm cookies |
| 11:44.13 | Humbedooh | steals some from quiescens |
| 11:44.22 | quiescens | ): |
| 11:44.27 | Humbedooh | goto sleep |
| 11:44.58 | chiel | lol :p |
| 11:45.56 | chiel | i should grab a list of all my monk's abilities though and try to optimise the keybinds |
| 11:46.09 | chiel | i'm using a few very nice keybinds for abilities i barely use atm :p |
| 11:46.24 | chiel | and i've put things like gaurd on a pretty inconvenient bind, haha |
| 11:50.57 | nevcairiel | ha my wow server is still broken |
| 11:51.01 | nevcairiel | no npcs, no spell casting |
| 11:52.06 | chiel | O.o really? that's kinda terrible haha |
| 11:52.22 | chiel | nevcairiel, make me a list of my monk's abilities, i'm too lazy |
| 11:52.23 | chiel | :D |
| 11:52.46 | nevcairiel | http://wowhead.com/class=10#spells:type=7 |
| 11:53.19 | chiel | hmm, apparently my wowhead skills failed badly :D |
| 11:53.31 | chiel | i could not find abilities specific to specialisation but it's just a tab, ahhaha |
| 11:53.34 | chiel | god i suck |
| 11:58.01 | Timmeh | word |
| 12:07.22 | chiel | so there's 38 abilities that i should bind, and then healthstones and stuff like that |
| 12:07.44 | nevcairiel | it seems doubtful that you would need 38 abilities on key bindings =p |
| 12:08.59 | nevcairiel | unless you really want to bind every once-in-a-blue-moon abilitiy and then try to remember which button it was on XD |
| 12:10.09 | chiel | oh nah, i won't bind all of them, but i just need to rethink the bindings i have now, cause something like touch of death... i don't use that often |
| 12:10.21 | chiel | sure it's handy to kill an add or whatever, but i could easily but that on some key with a modifier |
| 12:24.43 | chiel | nevcairiel: does bartender also modify the "underlying" bars when you modify bartender's ones? |
| 12:24.55 | chiel | for the ones that copy the existing bars, of course |
| 12:25.11 | nevcairiel | of course |
| 12:25.22 | nevcairiel | all bartender bars represent a default game bar |
| 12:25.33 | nevcairiel | (although some you cannot access without an addon) |
| 12:26.04 | chiel | ohh, i didn't know that :) |
| 12:26.16 | chiel | i thought it was just the 5 that could access through the default ui |
| 12:26.22 | chiel | fair enough then |
| 12:26.36 | chiel | cause sometimes in the past i'd disable bartender just to fix the underlying bars, haha |
| 12:27.06 | nevcairiel | the game reserves the other 5 for various things, bar 2 is the second page of your main bar, and the top 4 are used for the shapeshifting/stance bars |
| 12:27.18 | chiel | think i'll have to play with actionbars shown again for a short while after changing my keybinds.. >.< |
| 12:27.23 | chiel | ah ok, makes sense |
| 12:28.07 | chiel | i removed the bindings for switching actionbars haha, i would fuck up pretty badly sometimes cause of it |
| 12:28.35 | nevcairiel | many people did and then came complaining that bartender switched their bars |
| 12:29.14 | nevcairiel | i think i turned that off in bartender by default now :p |
| 12:31.29 | chiel | ohh, cause it used to do it only inside bartender, then? |
| 12:31.30 | nevcairiel | nah it does that with the default too |
| 12:31.44 | znf | the fuck |
| 12:31.46 | znf | I logged on |
| 12:31.50 | znf | "server restart in 0:05" |
| 12:31.51 | znf | >_< |
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| 12:31.59 | chiel | ah right yea sorry, i was still in a different conversation in my head... |
| 12:32.00 | nevcairiel | servers been broken anyway |
| 12:32.03 | chiel | but yes, i hate that shit, haha |
| 12:32.11 | chiel | be happy, maybe the restart will fix things :p |
| 12:40.06 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/WbILT4z.jpg |
| 12:40.07 | znf | uhm |
| 12:41.41 | znf | \o/ http://i.imgur.com/hgrvqK9.png |
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| 12:43.00 | nevcairiel | reported for exploiting |
| 12:43.04 | chiel | does single quote vs double quote matter in lua? :p |
| 12:43.22 | chiel | hahahaha |
| 12:43.25 | chiel | wow |
| 12:43.28 | chiel | much upgrade |
| 12:43.29 | chiel | such exploit |
| 12:43.59 | nevcairiel | i seriously despise people like znf |
| 12:44.10 | znf | why? |
| 12:46.56 | silentium | chiel: you can use either single or double quotes for strings, no real difference |
| 12:47.06 | chiel | cool |
| 12:47.12 | chiel | prefer single, for some reason |
| 12:47.15 | chiel | idk why |
| 12:47.33 | silentium | in a double quoted string you can use literal single quotes without escaping and vice versa, so that might make code more readable |
| 12:48.20 | chiel | right yea, standard stuff then |
| 12:48.23 | chiel | thanks silentium |
| 12:49.01 | nevcairiel | i prefer consistency instead of switching them around for some strings just to avoid an escape here and there :D |
| 12:49.50 | silentium | sure, but if you know that most of your strings will be littered with one sort of quotes then that might affect your general choice |
| 12:50.24 | nevcairiel | damn i forgot about the 40 trillium bars for the quest, guess i should collect those as well |
| 12:50.53 | chiel | nevcairiel: i go for consistency too, so i'll just stick to single quotes like i do in javascript |
| 12:51.13 | chiel | nevcairiel: good luck |
| 12:51.15 | Timmeh | singlequotes ftw |
| 12:51.21 | chiel | man i had this stupid shit on my druid |
| 12:51.30 | chiel | at some point i had like... 45 black trillium, and 1 white |
| 12:51.32 | chiel | super annoying |
| 12:51.38 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 12:51.42 | chiel | resorted to just buying a bunch of white from spirits |
| 12:52.12 | chiel | does haste still lurk around in here? :p |
| 12:52.15 | Timmeh | transmuting them is relatively cheap, isn't it? just takes a bunch (10?) of ghost iron, which is way easier to collect |
| 12:52.18 | chiel | 10 bars |
| 12:52.22 | Timmeh | yea |
| 12:52.24 | chiel | so 1 stack of ore = 1 trillium |
| 12:52.32 | nevcairiel | i stopped farming ores after i finished my sky golem |
| 12:52.44 | chiel | they're easy to farm, but it still takes a while |
| 12:52.46 | Timmeh | yes, and ghost iron is like 20x cheaper on the AH, and like 50x easier to farm |
| 12:52.53 | chiel | ah, i'm working on my sky golem right now :) |
| 12:53.55 | chiel | i don't have an engineer though, but i'm giving a guy i know 10 bars per day so he can make the engineering part |
| 12:53.58 | chiel | and i make the living steel |
| 12:54.04 | chiel | think i have... 23 now, or so |
| 12:55.18 | silentium | if you're not in a hurry (or depending on how many alts you have) you can get trillium ores from the Halfhill farm as well, but it gives black and white ores randomly as well |
| 12:55.54 | chiel | oh yea i just farm a bunch of ore every few days now, it's really not so painful :) |
| 12:57.03 | nevcairiel | you can also farm them zandalari scouts, their bags have a bunch of ores usually |
| 12:57.10 | chiel | i have 4 farms though, but planting cloth on them at the moment cause of research shit |
| 12:57.17 | chiel | ahh, but i am on a pretty full realm though |
| 12:57.27 | chiel | so they are not so easy to find, just the odd one here and there |
| 12:57.56 | Timmeh | chiel: just do a warbringer circle around pandaria once a day, and pick up the warbringers and scouts you fly past |
| 12:58.05 | nevcairiel | i cant solo warbringers :( |
| 12:58.27 | nevcairiel | much strong, very hurt |
| 12:58.31 | Timmeh | :-( |
| 12:58.43 | Timmeh | what class do you play? |
| 12:58.53 | znf | dr00d |
| 12:59.00 | znf | or, as how germans say "dudu" |
| 12:59.12 | nevcairiel | i went collecting them with my warlock mostly, but he is just in isle gear |
| 12:59.17 | nevcairiel | not like my other chars are much stronger |
| 12:59.26 | Timmeh | I heard druids can do it with their bear hands! (that joke is still better spoken than typed) |
| 12:59.40 | nevcairiel | i'm a healy or moonkin though |
| 12:59.46 | Timmeh | yea, figured :-P |
| 13:00.04 | nevcairiel | seen a guardian do it once |
| 13:01.28 | nevcairiel | working from home, i just used to take half an hour early in the morning and fly around the scout spots |
| 13:01.56 | znf | ilvl 581, good enough I guess |
| 13:01.56 | nevcairiel | mostly for the rep tokens |
| 13:03.30 | znf | today is a good day to sell gems |
| 13:03.33 | znf | I should do that |
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| 13:04.25 | nevcairiel | people just upgrade gear, why new gems |
| 13:04.30 | znf | reforging |
| 13:04.37 | znf | new upgrades -> more hit/exp |
| 13:04.40 | znf | they reforge/regem |
| 13:04.44 | Workfoz | Hay guise |
| 13:04.51 | sb | finally awake? :D |
| 13:04.52 | znf | or go over the haste cap with a lot |
| 13:05.10 | Workfoz | sb: lunch break |
| 13:05.26 | znf | AMR is probably getting hammered today ^^ |
| 13:05.43 | Workfoz | I'm getting hammered today |
| 13:05.54 | znf | Workfoz, never a bad day for getting hammered |
| 13:06.01 | Workfoz | Indeed |
| 13:07.14 | chiel | Timmeh: i have no idea where they all are haha :p |
| 13:07.32 | chiel | nevcairiel: no dps spec, or not got great gear on it? |
| 13:07.54 | chiel | ah right, boomkin |
| 13:07.56 | chiel | should learn to read |
| 13:11.26 | sb | Workfoz: so productive day today? |
| 13:12.20 | nevcairiel | there, made 20 bars out of the spirits on some char who doesnt have any producing professions anyway =p |
| 13:12.53 | nevcairiel | i hope they redesign the spirits idea for wod, it sucked |
| 13:13.00 | nevcairiel | bind on account would've been nice |
| 13:13.49 | znf | yes it did suck, indeed |
| 13:14.24 | chiel | aye, i always hoped that at some point they would make em BoA |
| 13:14.27 | chiel | but no such luck |
| 13:14.41 | znf | they will, in 6.0 lol |
| 13:14.54 | chiel | i'm just reaaaally curious what they will do with the crafting buildings on the garrisons |
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| 13:15.45 | znf | I just want/need disenchanting/milling/prospecting |
| 13:15.50 | znf | Anything else I don't really care |
| 13:16.01 | chiel | ideally i'd like to have a bunch of gold stockpiled for WoD |
| 13:16.09 | chiel | just dunno what the best way to make gold is |
| 13:16.16 | chiel | atm i have like... 35k or so |
| 13:17.13 | znf | I still have around ~350k |
| 13:17.17 | znf | gone poor lately :( |
| 13:17.35 | nevcairiel | i'm at 220k or so, most gold i've ever had really |
| 13:17.52 | znf | I just bought game-cards from guildies with gold |
| 13:17.54 | nevcairiel | i wanted to go 300k for wod, but i got lazy |
| 13:18.02 | znf | and I didn't really play much to actually make any gold lately |
| 13:18.17 | znf | back in ~december I was at around 500k |
| 13:19.50 | chiel | how do you guys make gold? |
| 13:19.56 | znf | I have no idea. It just piles up. |
| 13:20.08 | chiel | hmm interesting |
| 13:20.22 | chiel | i guess you raid with a fairly successful guild though? |
| 13:20.26 | chiel | i think raiding makes you tons of gold. |
| 13:20.31 | znf | why does everyone think that? |
| 13:20.36 | znf | no it doesn't make tons of gold... |
| 13:20.48 | znf | we pay like ~8k / night for repairs (as a guild) |
| 13:21.21 | chiel | but killing bosses and stuff earns you more though? |
| 13:21.29 | znf | emphasis on "killing" |
| 13:21.34 | chiel | i was just going by the fact that you said you have 581 ilvl, sorry :) |
| 13:21.35 | znf | and no, it doesn't really earn us that much gold... |
| 13:21.44 | chiel | fair enough, my bad |
| 13:21.57 | chiel | i just thought with that kinda gear stuff was pretty much on farm or something |
| 13:22.05 | znf | nope, we're 12/14 HC |
| 13:22.14 | chiel | still pretty damn nice though :) |
| 13:22.21 | chiel | i'm on 13/14normal, haha |
| 13:22.25 | chiel | but no guild at the moment |
| 13:22.56 | nevcairiel | you can upgrade your gear to 540 now! |
| 13:23.43 | quiescens | \o/ |
| 13:23.50 | znf | I'm not sure at the moment what gold does a boss drop |
| 13:23.58 | znf | But I think it's somewhere like ~100g/person in 25M |
| 13:24.04 | znf | that's pocket change :P |
| 13:24.08 | znf | not even that |
| 13:24.17 | quiescens | what if you solo the boss |
| 13:24.22 | znf | 2.5k |
| 13:24.23 | znf | good luck |
| 13:24.33 | znf | (again, on the assumption that it drops ~100g/person) |
| 13:24.49 | znf | actually, didn't they change that in the last ~month or so? |
| 13:24.58 | znf | to have gold drops scale on the amount of players in raid? |
| 13:24.59 | nevcairiel | longer ago than that, but yes |
| 13:25.25 | nevcairiel | I made most gold by farming stuff and selling it, selling cooldowns, selling items made from spirits.. |
| 13:26.13 | znf | most gold I made in the last year were from GDKP runs |
| 13:26.34 | znf | was, whatever |
| 13:26.59 | znf | now it's time to hit https://eu.theunderminejournal.com/category.php?realm=H-Kazzak&category=jewelcrafting |
| 13:27.03 | znf | and see what I can sell for profit! |
| 13:27.41 | nevcairiel | most things with a high margin just dont sell well, and everything else is just minimal profit generally <.< |
| 13:28.19 | nevcairiel | especially with gems, which actually cost more uncut |
| 13:28.27 | znf | that's why it's awesome to be on a high-pop realm |
| 13:28.29 | Workfoz | oh, Netflix launching in Germany? |
| 13:28.35 | Workfoz | that only took a decade or so |
| 13:28.44 | nevcairiel | Workfoz: let me guess, with german audio only |
| 13:28.59 | chiel | nevcairiel: and yea, was thinking about just farming ore + herbs and selling those |
| 13:29.01 | znf | maybe that's why it took them that much :D |
| 13:29.17 | chiel | since my druid has both mining and herbing, usually i just fly circles in kun-lai to pick up snow lily along with my ore |
| 13:30.08 | znf | only alt I dinged to 90 this expansion is my druid with herb/mine |
| 13:30.09 | znf | :D |
| 13:30.13 | znf | and only because I needed flying... |
| 13:30.45 | znf | the whole no-flying-until-90 really bummed me off |
| 13:31.34 | nevcairiel | Workfoz: apparently the US studios are afraid of streaming services offering original audio in germany because we would then no longer buy their DVDs or Blu-rays, sounds like it'll be useless german :p |
| 13:31.35 | znf | I mean, fine on my main when I did the quests first time |
| 13:32.04 | nevcairiel | znf: welcome to no flying ever! |
| 13:32.09 | znf | yeah... >_< |
| 13:32.10 | znf | ffs |
| 13:32.14 | znf | don't remind me |
| 13:33.13 | nevcairiel | when professions dont give a combat bonus anymore, i should teach my druid herbing again |
| 13:33.40 | znf | that's a change that I welcome |
| 13:34.31 | znf | being able to get any profession you want without factoring in combat bonuses? nice! |
| 13:36.28 | sb | nevcairiel: why druid? |
| 13:36.40 | znf | heh |
| 13:36.41 | znf | https://vimeo.com/92087150 |
| 13:36.45 | znf | pornhub is fun |
| 13:37.07 | nevcairiel | sb: because its my main and also has alchemy, and without herbing i would h ave to buy flowers to level alchemy at first, and no like :p |
| 13:37.51 | sb | i see |
| 13:38.06 | nevcairiel | i wish you could transfer a profession to another char, that would be neat |
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| 13:39.33 | sb | well, skilling herbalism is easy, just fly around in valley of the four winds and visit your trainer every 30-60mins :D |
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| 13:40.20 | bluworkcow | quiescens: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D8YEgANLow |
| 13:40.23 | bluworkcow | :3 |
| 13:41.42 | chiel | i dunno, i changed my professions up so many times... i'll just keep em how they are |
| 13:41.48 | chiel | but yes, no more combat benefits are really nice |
| 13:43.00 | quiescens | o.o |
| 13:43.02 | nevcairiel | sb: yeah i like how you can train in one area now |
| 13:45.30 | chiel | man i really don't remember how oUF works :D |
| 13:45.33 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/C5qwjTB.png |
| 13:45.34 | znf | w00t |
| 13:45.42 | chiel | guess i gotta check the source since the docs are... outdates/non-existent :p |
| 13:45.52 | Timmeh | chiel: write docs! |
| 13:46.05 | nevcairiel | it was never really meant to have docs |
| 13:46.12 | nevcairiel | check an existing skin to see how it works, etc :P |
| 13:46.15 | chiel | znf: what font's that? |
| 13:46.22 | znf | chaud, PT Narrow Sans |
| 13:46.27 | chiel | nevcairiel: aye, am doing, just like knowing what stuff does :p |
| 13:46.29 | znf | I mean chiel |
| 13:46.31 | chiel | :p |
| 13:46.32 | chiel | ta |
| 13:46.34 | bluworkcow | #dat feeling when you buy a bunch of music , one track starts playing and your'e like "da faq is this" |
| 13:47.05 | znf | that feeling when you have no idea how it feels to buy music |
| 13:47.07 | chiel | i think i shall abuse that font |
| 13:47.11 | znf | most my music is free from soundcloud :-| |
| 13:47.13 | znf | chiel, I did :P |
| 13:47.16 | chiel | that feeling when you just pay for spotify :p |
| 13:47.20 | chiel | :D |
| 13:47.22 | znf | chiel, all my fonts are set to that |
| 13:47.26 | Timmeh | nevcairiel: "it was never meant to have" or "the author never meant to write" :-P |
| 13:47.28 | bluworkcow | dat feeling when a armorous cow feels you up |
| 13:47.30 | chiel | yea it's a nice one |
| 13:47.32 | bluworkcow | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:47.34 | chiel | compact but still readable |
| 13:47.50 | znf | except recently I started using some monospaced fonts for other stuff |
| 13:48.15 | Timmeh | nevcairiel: surely some API docs would be useful :-) |
| 13:48.26 | znf | also, I can't pay for spotify |
| 13:48.35 | znf | "we don't allow payments from your country" |
| 13:48.36 | nevcairiel | because you're poor? |
| 13:48.53 | znf | no, they really don't allow payments from romania... |
| 13:48.55 | Timmeh | znf: romania, was it? |
| 13:48.56 | Timmeh | right |
| 13:49.10 | nevcairiel | they probably need proper licensing contracts for that to work |
| 13:49.14 | znf | neither paypal or direct card |
| 13:49.17 | chiel | znf: yea, was thinking maybe using monospace for some stuff, but i don't really find them readable at a glance, which is annoying |
| 13:49.28 | Timmeh | can't you pay for spotify by credit card? and you just get one of them prepaid credit cards? :-D |
| 13:49.48 | znf | I dunno, thing is, I don't really listen to mainstream music anyway |
| 13:49.54 | znf | so I rarely pop spotify open |
| 13:50.09 | chiel | spotify doesn't just have mainstream music though |
| 13:50.22 | chiel | i don't listen to mainstream stuff either, except maybe some golden oldies :p |
| 13:50.25 | znf | doesn't have what I listen to :P |
| 13:50.28 | Timmeh | chiel: I'd use a monospace font, but when it comes to the WoW UI, I don't like my elements to be super large, and some people do decide to have super long names etc, so all space saved by using a more condensed font is appreciated :-P |
| 13:50.50 | znf | most of the stuff I listen is on SoundCloud |
| 13:51.01 | chiel | fair enough |
| 13:51.04 | znf | and a lot of the music I listen to doesn't even have a label |
| 13:51.06 | chiel | Timmeh: yup |
| 13:51.09 | znf | so no way in making it on to spotify :D |
| 13:51.12 | chiel | :D |
| 13:51.23 | Timmeh | chiel: oldies, like the George Baker Selection? :-P |
| 13:51.30 | Timmeh | chiel: una paloma blaaancaaaa |
| 13:51.33 | znf | like, right now I'm listening to https://soundcloud.com/dealerdemusique/sets/playlist-funky-friday-5 |
| 13:51.51 | chiel | but that's why i was asking what font he was using, cause it's narrow, yet readable |
| 13:52.20 | znf | chiel, it's the font that ElvUI uses :P |
| 13:52.33 | nevcairiel | ew |
| 13:52.35 | bluworkcow | *fondles znf* |
| 13:52.44 | znf | well... it's actually a good font |
| 13:53.02 | nevcairiel | i dont like such semi-bold fonts |
| 13:53.11 | Timmeh | yea it's a bit too bold for my taste as well |
| 13:53.27 | znf | oh, actually, I think that's PT Narrow Sans Bold |
| 13:53.28 | znf | wait |
| 13:53.29 | znf | let me see |
| 13:53.30 | chiel | i just have to see how it looks in-game for me, first :) |
| 13:53.37 | chiel | pt narrow sans looks pretty nice anyway |
| 13:53.47 | chiel | the bold one will probably be nice for quest titles and such things |
| 13:53.48 | znf | ah, no, it's not bold |
| 13:53.59 | znf | I just replaced all stuff in \Fonts with it |
| 13:54.01 | znf | :> |
| 13:54.04 | chiel | atm i'm using adobe source sans |
| 13:54.22 | znf | ARIALN.ttf FRIENDS.ttf FRIZQT__.TTF MORPHEUS.ttf skurri.ttf |
| 13:54.25 | chiel | http://store1.adobe.com/cfusion/store/html/index.cfm?event=displayFontPackage&code=1959 also pretty decent |
| 13:54.46 | nevcairiel | i stopped overwriting fonts a while ago, an addon can do most of th at on its own |
| 13:54.59 | chiel | i do the font override thing too |
| 13:55.28 | znf | nevcairiel, I'll tell you what I can't override with any addon |
| 13:55.39 | znf | bartender's keybindings! |
| 13:55.42 | znf | the font, I mean |
| 13:55.47 | znf | I never managed to change it with any addon |
| 13:55.48 | nevcairiel | i fixed that last week or so |
| 13:56.28 | znf | also, I like my login screen which I see 5 seconds a day to have the same fonts! |
| 13:56.41 | chiel | haha |
| 13:57.20 | nevcairiel | I just use the old calibri font variant that became popular back in the day |
| 13:58.06 | znf | chiel, http://i.imgur.com/Kg2lEQi.png |
| 13:58.11 | chiel | hmm i recall that font is pretty clean als |
| 13:58.13 | chiel | also * |
| 13:58.23 | znf | fixed font |
| 13:58.39 | chiel | znf: aye, i will probably use fixedwidth for unitframes too |
| 13:58.57 | znf | that's pixel unicode, btw |
| 13:59.59 | znf | with a "thin outline", because Shadowed didn't really seem to get the outlining done properly on his unit frames |
| 14:00.09 | znf | I should dig into the code and see why |
| 14:00.29 | nevcairiel | what does the text outline have to do with the frames |
| 14:00.47 | znf | nevcairiel, his addon is the only one that doesn't do "monochrome" outline properly for some reasons |
| 14:01.06 | znf | I get this when using monochrome: http://i.imgur.com/5TadWlJ.png |
| 14:01.22 | chiel | O.o |
| 14:01.23 | chiel | weird lol |
| 14:05.46 | Timmeh | chiel: idea: let's use Droid Sans |
| 14:05.53 | Timmeh | make it all Androided up! |
| 14:06.04 | Timmeh | chiel: put little jelly beans and kitkats on your screen as well |
| 14:06.15 | znf | I tried |
| 14:06.21 | znf | to use Droid Sans |
| 14:06.22 | Timmeh | actually, the Droid Sans font is quite good |
| 14:06.23 | znf | it's too big :( |
| 14:06.24 | Timmeh | oh |
| 14:06.25 | Timmeh | boo! |
| 14:06.38 | znf | also tried Roboto Condensed |
| 14:06.40 | znf | nope |
| 14:06.41 | chiel | on the web i quite like the roboto font family too |
| 14:06.43 | znf | also open sans |
| 14:06.52 | znf | nope'd all of them |
| 14:06.56 | Timmeh | I currently use Arial Narrow, I think |
| 14:07.01 | nevcairiel | many of those fonts are quite a bit larger |
| 14:07.03 | znf | too narrow! |
| 14:07.16 | nevcairiel | had to adjust font size in my editors when i switched a bit |
| 14:07.20 | chiel | not a big fan of arial as a font family |
| 14:07.55 | chiel | for coding i use bitstream vera sans mono and deja vu mono |
| 14:08.06 | chiel | the latter is an extension of the former |
| 14:10.42 | Timmeh | I use MiscFixedSC613 for coding, maybe I should try that in my UI |
| 14:11.01 | chiel | vera sans mono is actually fairly round, in no way a pixel font |
| 14:11.11 | nevcairiel | fixed size fonts dont look all that great for the general purpose ui, imho |
| 14:11.26 | Timmeh | nevcairiel: yea, I think so as well |
| 14:11.28 | Timmeh | but worth a try |
| 14:11.35 | Timmeh | I use MiscFixed for IRC as well! |
| 14:11.50 | wink | Droid Sans is not that bad actually |
| 14:12.02 | wink | usin it in LightTable because of some rendering issues with my usual font |
| 14:14.45 | chiel | i don't like fixed size fonts for most things, but for unitframes i think they can look ok |
| 14:14.54 | chiel | http://i.imgur.com/WI2ydHy.jpg <- i like that font |
| 14:14.56 | chiel | but idk which it is |
| 14:15.03 | nevcairiel | tzoo pixely |
| 14:15.05 | nevcairiel | -z |
| 14:15.50 | Timmeh | chiel: that's not fixed size / monospace though |
| 14:15.55 | Timmeh | that's just a pixel font |
| 14:16.07 | Timmeh | or bitmap font |
| 14:16.09 | Timmeh | w/e the correct name is |
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| 14:18.43 | chiel | ah right |
| 14:18.50 | chiel | i like it for the uf's :D |
| 14:18.57 | chiel | but idk, i will seee |
| 14:19.08 | chiel | tonight i'll first just get a player uf |
| 14:19.15 | chiel | and that doesn't need all that much text, maybe just hp |
| 14:34.37 | znf | hmmm, that thing on slashdot is interesting |
| 14:34.45 | znf | how driverless cars could affect local budgets |
| 14:35.18 | znf | no speeding tickets, no other fines == less income |
| 14:36.06 | nevcairiel | sounds like an american reason to ban them |
| 14:36.45 | nevcairiel | i would love a self-driving car |
| 14:37.24 | znf | me too |
| 14:37.30 | znf | but probably not for the same reasons as you |
| 14:38.17 | nevcairiel | i'm sure you're not allowed to be drunk even if the car drives you! |
| 14:38.43 | znf | ow :-( |
| 14:39.12 | znf | screw self-driving cars, then |
| 14:39.17 | wink | lol |
| 14:39.58 | nevcairiel | at least as the first step the driver is probably going to be requried to be alert |
| 14:40.04 | sb | i dont know about self driving cars.. thats why we have public transport... |
| 14:40.23 | wink | depends how goof it is |
| 14:40.35 | wink | I constantly get told how good Munich's is compared ot other cities |
| 14:40.36 | wink | and I hate it |
| 14:40.37 | znf | sb, shut up, you german with your good public transport! |
| 14:40.46 | wink | yeah. |
| 14:40.57 | sb | errr, dont get me wrong, i hate public transport :D |
| 14:41.04 | znf | Last "bus" (which is not an actual bus) leaves at 9pm |
| 14:41.05 | sb | but i love driving car :D |
| 14:41.05 | wink | plus it's even useless for anything like a weeks grociery shopping |
| 14:41.13 | sb | true. |
| 14:41.22 | wink | I would love to get rid of my car |
| 14:41.30 | wink | I actually maybe will after this one |
| 14:41.33 | sb | but do you really need self-driving cars for your grocery shopping? |
| 14:41.34 | wink | if it's feasible |
| 14:42.00 | sb | cant imaging living without car tbh |
| 14:42.07 | wink | sb: it's not about *your* - it's about replacing maybe half of them in a city. and then just take a personal taxi |
| 14:42.11 | wink | no more traffic jams |
| 14:42.17 | wink | because only half the cars |
| 14:42.26 | wink | (and yeah, futuristic visions) |
| 14:42.40 | znf | Seeing that the closest larger town is 10kms away, I couldn't do anything without a car |
| 14:42.42 | wink | never gonna happen in automobile mecca anywhere (aka .de) |
| 14:43.02 | nevcairiel | I like driving, but I don't like driving in my city |
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| 14:43.15 | wink | znf: well, my way to work is ~8-10km, in the city. |
| 14:43.18 | chiel | i "drive" too |
| 14:43.20 | znf | I mean, public transport that works from 6am to 9pm, every 30 minutes, it's not exactly my kind of tea-cup |
| 14:43.20 | sb | znf: u could walk to the office (~15mins) but i still drive there :p |
| 14:43.22 | wink | I bike whenever I can |
| 14:43.22 | chiel | drive a bike :p |
| 14:43.41 | znf | sb, so did I last summer :P |
| 14:43.45 | znf | ~15 minutes walk |
| 14:43.48 | znf | but _summer_ |
| 14:43.53 | sb | yes, biking is on the list - but i dont want to bike when its raining, snowing, too cold, whatever :D |
| 14:44.01 | znf | wouldn't have really liked to arrive sweaty at work |
| 14:44.09 | wink | > the problem in a self driven car, is that if you forget to set the self, you will have car() takes no arguments (1 given) |
| 14:44.14 | sb | so znf, speaking about "work" |
| 14:44.22 | znf | I have no job now :( |
| 14:45.07 | sb | i have no idea whats going on in your country but if you tried to get one - what are the chances? |
| 14:45.16 | sb | (even if its not your dream-job) |
| 14:45.26 | znf | well, let's put it this way, sb |
| 14:45.39 | znf | I currently make more money at home than going to work |
| 14:45.49 | znf | plus, going to work implies more expenses |
| 14:45.49 | nevcairiel | sb: last job he got he quiet because he didnt like it |
| 14:45.53 | nevcairiel | quit* |
| 14:45.58 | znf | yup, it was horrible |
| 14:46.04 | sb | nevcairiel: i know, thats why i asked :D |
| 14:46.14 | znf | 9 to 5 in a shitty office where I would have had no human contact :-| |
| 14:46.27 | znf | for 1500 ron / month (338€) |
| 14:46.53 | sb | znf: so you do some private stuff or is there some sort of unemployment-payment? |
| 14:46.58 | sb | (whatever it is called) |
| 14:47.10 | znf | right now I make 350 to 450 eur/month at home, plus with the deals I have going this month, that could be even more |
| 14:47.18 | sb | unemployment compensation :p |
| 14:47.22 | znf | I'm not eligible for unemployment |
| 14:47.35 | nevcairiel | even having a crappy job is better in the long run, as it looks better to future employers |
| 14:47.51 | znf | I owe the state around ~700€ |
| 14:48.05 | znf | the costs of my trials |
| 14:48.14 | sb | nevcairiel: depends on the job you want - if you dont mind working at mcdonalds it shouldnt matter at all :D |
| 14:48.21 | nevcairiel | sb: true |
| 14:48.26 | nevcairiel | speaking of mcd, i'm getting hungry |
| 14:48.30 | sb | znf: thats the reason for not getting compensation? |
| 14:48.32 | znf | the thing is, I need a job that gets me out in the world interacting with people |
| 14:48.34 | znf | sb, yup |
| 14:48.43 | sb | how much would it be? |
| 14:48.46 | znf | sb, also, you can only collect unemployment for 6 months |
| 14:48.47 | sb | per month |
| 14:48.49 | nevcairiel | maybe you should'nt have driven your hotel into ruin |
| 14:49.18 | znf | at my level of work experience, unemployment would have been ~80€/month ( |
| 14:49.24 | znf | nevcairiel, it was already in ruins |
| 14:49.25 | sb | ugh |
| 14:49.34 | Workfoz | I think it's more about the scamming, nevcairiel :D |
| 14:50.00 | znf | think about it - we actually pushed for a damn 4 star hotel to replace it's old 14" CRT TVs with LCDs |
| 14:50.08 | znf | because the previous management didn't bother for 9 years to buy LCDs... |
| 14:50.21 | sb | znf: stop putting BMW X6s in a van then! |
| 14:50.25 | znf | heh |
| 14:50.38 | sb | http://singaporeseen.stomp.com.sg/singaporeseen/this-urban-jungle/mans-efforts-to-smuggle-stolen-bmw-from-italy-to-romania-will-leave-you-speechless |
| 14:50.45 | znf | yeah, I've seen it |
| 14:51.25 | nevcairiel | haha, dismantling it and shoving it into a sprinter is just great |
| 14:51.34 | znf | gotta admire them for their ingenuity |
| 14:51.58 | chiel | man i hope it doesn't start to rain when i have to go home >_> |
| 14:52.10 | nevcairiel | chiel: there you have your bike for you |
| 14:52.37 | znf | sb, so, bottom line is that I can't really find a decent job around |
| 14:52.57 | chiel | nevcairiel: yeaaaa don't really fancy cycling home in the rain, tyvm :( |
| 14:53.07 | znf | I really liked my job last year, though; Met a lot of people, was stressful, long hours, yay |
| 14:53.32 | chiel | most jobs are (imo) defined by the people you work with |
| 14:53.38 | znf | indeed |
| 14:53.40 | chiel | in the end, i don't care too much what i'm working on |
| 14:53.48 | chiel | so long as the people i work with are good at what they do |
| 14:53.56 | znf | one of the reasons I didn't last at the job I tried this year |
| 14:54.03 | Timmeh | well, for me a job has to be interesting (depends on what you work on) and fun (depends on who you work with) |
| 14:54.03 | znf | I was supposed to work 9 to 5 alone, in an office... |
| 14:54.09 | Timmeh | so both are important to me :-) |
| 14:54.20 | znf | Timmeh, and that's the reason I loved my job last year :P |
| 14:54.35 | znf | a lot of young people I worked with |
| 14:54.44 | znf | my direct colleague was fun to work with |
| 14:54.56 | znf | it's quite rare for me to get a long so well with a stranger :P |
| 14:55.36 | znf | heck, the job wasn't even technically IT related and I liked doing it |
| 14:56.24 | chiel | ok yes, it does matter to some extent *what* you're working on |
| 14:56.38 | chiel | like you need to have something that piques your interest |
| 14:56.52 | znf | also, I liked my boss a lot, and basically gave me free reign to do anything |
| 14:56.59 | chiel | but there are a loooot of things that can be *made* interesting simply by how they are approached |
| 14:57.19 | chiel | and i think working with good people will give you something interesting to do, whatever it is you're working on |
| 14:57.25 | znf | true |
| 14:58.15 | chiel | where i work now... the end-product is not really all that interesting to me, but i think i joined at an interesting time since they're changing a lot of things for the better |
| 14:58.34 | chiel | and i really enjoy thinking about software architecture, so if i can do that while here, that would be kinda cool |
| 14:59.30 | Timmeh | chiel: and if all else fails, you can just switch jobs, right? :-P |
| 14:59.42 | Timmeh | chiel: you switch jobs more often than most people in WoW switch guilds :-D |
| 15:00.11 | chiel | hehe |
| 15:00.17 | chiel | that's just been recently really |
| 15:00.18 | znf | lol http://asset-1.soup.io/asset/7269/5411_1c83.png |
| 15:00.26 | chiel | when i was at spotify i stayed put for almost 2 years :) |
| 15:00.36 | chiel | but yes, i have no qualms switching jobs if i am not enjoying myself |
| 15:00.45 | chiel | it's something i do every day for 8 hours, i'd like to enjoy those 8 hours :) |
| 15:00.58 | chiel | hahaha, nice |
| 15:01.15 | chiel | the last job though, i got fired, i did not quit |
| 15:01.18 | znf | I really like jobs that actually keep me busy for more than those 8 hours a day |
| 15:01.24 | Fisker | Hail Hydra Stanzilla |
| 15:01.26 | Fisker | I got a nuc |
| 15:01.32 | Fisker | but no damn usb stick to boot it |
| 15:01.41 | znf | heck, last summer I had weeks when I was 9am to 2am at work |
| 15:01.43 | Workfoz | chiel: y u on fire |
| 15:01.57 | Fisker | I think I'll set up WDS/SCCM on my Xenserver running in Hyper-V |
| 15:02.02 | sb | because chatting for 8hours / day! |
| 15:02.08 | Timmeh | :-D |
| 15:02.20 | znf | Fisker, why are you bad? |
| 15:02.22 | znf | PXE the fuck out of it |
| 15:02.36 | Fisker | yes znf |
| 15:02.40 | znf | Why don't you have a pxe environment set up? :P |
| 15:02.41 | znf | I do! |
| 15:02.41 | Fisker | hence WDS//SCCM |
| 15:02.46 | Fisker | Because I don't need it |
| 15:03.04 | znf | doesn't matter, useful thing to have! |
| 15:03.09 | sb | whats a nuc? :o |
| 15:03.13 | znf | though I'm still lazy to set up the windows install enviornments |
| 15:03.18 | znf | sb, intel's barebone thingie |
| 15:03.19 | Fisker | sb |
| 15:03.21 | Fisker | prepare yourself |
| 15:03.27 | sb | oh, pc-mini (!= mac mini) basically!=, right? |
| 15:03.33 | Fisker | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rjz9vrABfQ |
| 15:03.57 | bluworkcow | *fondles znf* |
| 15:04.03 | znf | hmmm - the price of potions will skyrocket tonight |
| 15:04.08 | znf | should I put a bunch on the market? |
| 15:04.15 | Timmeh | STAHP FONDLING! |
| 15:04.28 | sb | Fisker: so this time it would make sense to sell only packaging on ebay? :D |
| 15:04.37 | Fisker | I will never sell it sb |
| 15:04.44 | sb | "yeah i know its only the packaging, i want this!!" |
| 15:05.11 | sb | 230eur? |
| 15:05.19 | sb | oh, thats the i3 |
| 15:05.37 | nevcairiel | they even have a atom-based version now |
| 15:05.39 | sb | 320eur |
| 15:05.41 | znf | MEH, not enough cheap Silkweed on the market :( |
| 15:05.45 | znf | nevcairiel, does atom have quicksync? |
| 15:05.48 | sb | http://www.amazon.de/INTEL-D54250WYB-uCFF-Haswell-DDR3L-1333/dp/B00FE8UX4G this? |
| 15:05.50 | nevcairiel | no |
| 15:05.54 | znf | meh :( |
| 15:05.57 | wink | wtf @ nuic |
| 15:05.59 | wink | -i |
| 15:06.00 | chiel | Workfoz: the entire it department had gotten fired :p |
| 15:06.09 | nevcairiel | http://geizhals.de/intel-nuc-kit-de3815tykhe-boxde3815tykhpp-a1074763.html |
| 15:06.12 | nevcairiel | atom version |
| 15:06.30 | wink | with sound? |
| 15:06.39 | znf | why doesn't atom have quicksync? |
| 15:06.46 | znf | it sounds like the best feature for it! |
| 15:07.30 | wink | they finally bought that .de domain? |
| 15:07.33 | wink | wow |
| 15:07.38 | nevcairiel | apparently |
| 15:07.46 | nevcairiel | i always enter gh.de into my url |
| 15:07.52 | Fisker | NEIN NEIN NEIN |
| 15:07.57 | sb | http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00GHAKGDI/ is without ssd/ram, right? :o |
| 15:08.00 | wink | what do you use those NUCs for? |
| 15:08.07 | znf | HTPCs? |
| 15:08.07 | nevcairiel | sb: yes |
| 15:08.10 | wink | a friend of mine set up a hadoop test cluster |
| 15:08.15 | wink | but otherwise? |
| 15:08.17 | sb | wink: doesnt matter, the packaging HAS FCUKING SOUNDS |
| 15:08.20 | wink | OK! |
| 15:08.26 | nevcairiel | I don't have one, I have a proper HTPC, but I can imagine that as a usecase |
| 15:08.41 | wink | what do y'all do with your HTPCs? :P |
| 15:08.48 | znf | run XBMC on it |
| 15:08.51 | Fisker | yep sb |
| 15:08.52 | Fisker | exactly |
| 15:09.10 | Fisker | Who gives a fuck when the packaging goes du dudududu |
| 15:09.16 | sb | i dont have a HTPC - my tv streams from NAS :| |
| 15:09.58 | znf | my current TV is dumb as fuck |
| 15:10.04 | znf | but that's ok, I don't actually use it as a TV |
| 15:10.11 | Fisker | so znf |
| 15:10.12 | *** join/#wowace Gnarfoz (smallbrain@geektour.de) |
| 15:10.13 | Fisker | I need pxe boot |
| 15:10.16 | Fisker | :( |
| 15:10.19 | znf | Fisker, easy mode |
| 15:10.27 | znf | compile iPXE, first! |
| 15:10.37 | znf | honestly, ipxe == best thing ever |
| 15:11.00 | nevcairiel | Fisker: lesson for the future, always cary a usb stick on your key chain |
| 15:11.06 | sb | i have ~10 usb sticks at home, why do you need pxe? :o |
| 15:11.16 | znf | sb, I lose usb sticks |
| 15:11.25 | sb | well... |
| 15:11.32 | nevcairiel | thats why I have one thats on my key chain, i dont lose that |
| 15:11.43 | Fisker | dear mother of god znf |
| 15:11.44 | bluworkcow | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:11.46 | znf | nevcairiel, the last one I had on my keychain... I short-circuited |
| 15:11.53 | bluworkcow | #guru meditation error |
| 15:11.54 | bluworkcow | :( |
| 15:11.58 | znf | plugged it into a faulty USB port :( |
| 15:12.07 | znf | and I couldn't find one as small as that anymore :( |
| 15:12.16 | nevcairiel | mine isnt all t hat tiny |
| 15:12.24 | nevcairiel | but still smaller than most keys |
| 15:12.39 | znf | I had this |
| 15:12.40 | znf | https://www.dropbox.com/s/ltg99gfg6as5gao/2012-01-04%2020.46.54.jpg |
| 15:12.42 | bluworkcow | nevcairiel's a big boy |
| 15:12.44 | znf | https://www.dropbox.com/s/ltg99gfg6as5gao/2012-01-04%2020.46.54.jpg |
| 15:12.47 | znf | https://www.dropbox.com/s/aseydhcawwxbqmf/2012-01-04%2020.47.16.jpg |
| 15:12.48 | bluworkcow | giggity giggity |
| 15:12.49 | znf | that :P |
| 15:12.52 | Fisker | I had mine in my pants nevcairiel ? |
| 15:12.55 | Fisker | err |
| 15:12.57 | Fisker | I had mine in my pants nevcairiel |
| 15:13.02 | Fisker | Know what else I had in my pants? |
| 15:13.06 | Workfoz | sb: they bought it a while ago, yeah |
| 15:13.09 | Fisker | ridiculous amounts of water |
| 15:13.11 | Workfoz | year or so |
| 15:13.14 | bluworkcow | @fisker your mom ? |
| 15:13.15 | sb | Workfoz: uhm? |
| 15:13.20 | Fisker | u w0t m8? |
| 15:13.23 | Workfoz | geizhals.de |
| 15:13.23 | nevcairiel | Fisker: why have water in your pants |
| 15:13.30 | Fisker | because nevcairiel |
| 15:13.33 | sb | Workfoz: it was wink :p |
| 15:13.36 | Fisker | I was drinking water out of a bottle |
| 15:13.38 | Workfoz | oh bleh |
| 15:13.40 | Fisker | and I went bottoms up |
| 15:13.42 | znf | also, the last small USB stick I had... I forgot it at work :( |
| 15:13.44 | znf | plugged into a PC |
| 15:13.48 | Fisker | and the cap wasn't tightened |
| 15:13.49 | Fisker | LOL! |
| 15:14.03 | bluworkcow | nevcairiel: its cause its hot down there |
| 15:14.35 | nevcairiel | i have on of those; http://www.amazon.de/PRETEC-Bullet-proof-USB-Stick-shock/dp/B002RAOZFC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1400685237&sr=8-1 |
| 15:14.39 | nevcairiel | they claim its water proof |
| 15:15.14 | sb | oh, waterproof |
| 15:15.18 | znf | all of them are waterproof |
| 15:15.19 | znf | O.o |
| 15:15.27 | znf | source? I washed a bunch of them |
| 15:15.31 | nevcairiel | apparently not Fiskers! |
| 15:16.11 | znf | I was actually surprised it still worked after the first wash-trough :D |
| 15:16.15 | znf | then I stopped worrying |
| 15:16.22 | znf | forgot them in my pants a lot of times... |
| 15:17.54 | sb | so you actually wash your jeans? |
| 15:17.58 | sb | interesting |
| 15:18.21 | Workfoz | washing pants? what sorcery is this |
| 15:18.24 | znf | uhm, yeah I do.. |
| 15:18.51 | znf | so, in other news |
| 15:18.59 | znf | my wishlist for WoD 6.0 is to have nameplates support dots :( |
| 15:19.16 | sb | why not tidyplates/kui? |
| 15:19.27 | znf | hackish |
| 15:19.50 | sb | propably better implementation then what blizz could come up with till 6.0 |
| 15:19.52 | znf | I'll show you why :P |
| 15:19.55 | sb | yes, show me... |
| 15:20.28 | znf | wait, why can't I record with OB |
| 15:20.54 | znf | OBS* |
| 15:21.25 | znf | ah, there we go |
| 15:22.44 | sb | hurry up, will go grilling with coworkers soon |
| 15:22.52 | nevcairiel | mmm grilling |
| 15:23.02 | znf | processing 95% |
| 15:23.29 | znf | oh dear $deity |
| 15:23.34 | znf | sorry for the music, random soundcloud |
| 15:23.39 | sb | nevcairiel: invitation from new department manager - so free beer&beef |
| 15:23.42 | znf | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QL351gtFuuw |
| 15:24.09 | sb | ok, yes, i know this |
| 15:24.13 | znf | that's why :P |
| 15:24.20 | sb | but does it really matter? just panic hover them |
| 15:24.30 | znf | I don't like to chase my nameplates around |
| 15:24.40 | znf | it does matter; nameplates are weird |
| 15:25.04 | znf | the way tidy/kui handles aura tracking is sort of hackish from what I figured out |
| 15:26.22 | znf | if auras would be somewhat attached to the actual nameplates (as in, in blizzards code), nameplate addons wouldn't have to implement their own aura tracking, hence it would be more reliable |
| 15:27.43 | sb | i dont see why this would make any difference |
| 15:27.50 | sb | blizzard needs to do the same with auras!? |
| 15:28.15 | znf | uhm, addons wouldn't have to "guess" about dot tracking? |
| 15:28.24 | znf | right now if you put dots on a target |
| 15:28.46 | znf | and the target goes out of range (so the nameplate gets reused), the addon has no way of knowing that you have dots on that target until you hover it |
| 15:29.35 | sb | but why would it be something else for blizzard ui? they also need to track/query auras when displaying nameplates somehow |
| 15:29.40 | znf | if it was implemented in blizzards code (so, correct me if I'm wrong, but that would mean server-side or something like that), you wouldn't have to hover it |
| 15:29.49 | znf | because server side? :P |
| 15:29.54 | sb | blizzard ui isnt server side |
| 15:30.11 | znf | uhm, we're not on the same page and I lack the english skills to explain it technically |
| 15:30.19 | nevcairiel | the game will probably know which nameplate belongs to which unit |
| 15:30.27 | nevcairiel | addons do not |
| 15:30.30 | znf | that ^ |
| 15:31.02 | chiel | amagad the spam in this channel :o |
| 15:31.25 | znf | also, having your addon tracking timers on auras vs. having the game/server tracking the auras on the units (with what I'm assuming would be more performant code, maybe C stuff) |
| 15:31.34 | znf | which, again, I have no clue how it actually works, but I can only assume |
| 15:31.45 | znf | it's sort of like they did with the cast bars for units around you |
| 15:32.05 | znf | before blizzard implemented it, addons had to rely on weird hacks to display cast bars for units you were not tracking |
| 15:32.33 | znf | once they implemented it in their own code, nameplate addons used that, hence removal of weird hacks |
| 15:32.48 | chiel | yea, was shitty when that was not supported >.< |
| 15:32.49 | znf | chiel, that's just me spamming! I drank a lot of coke today |
| 15:32.54 | chiel | hahaha |
| 15:32.56 | znf | so a lot of caffeine |
| 15:32.58 | chiel | all hyper, huh? :p |
| 15:33.01 | znf | yeah |
| 15:33.17 | chiel | i wanna get hooome |
| 15:33.23 | chiel | i want to work on my unit frames :p |
| 15:33.31 | znf | I'm still home! |
| 15:33.34 | chiel | bastard |
| 15:33.39 | znf | man, I need to wake up earlier tomorow |
| 15:33.43 | chiel | i'm at work and i still have to cycle home |
| 15:33.47 | chiel | like ~13km |
| 15:34.05 | znf | I need to get a haircut, and my person-who-cuts-hair is on morning shift this week |
| 15:34.15 | chiel | hehe |
| 15:34.28 | chiel | i go to a barbershop that's open until... 8pm i believe, most days |
| 15:34.38 | znf | it's open until 7pm, but they swap shifts |
| 15:34.41 | chiel | need to get a beardtrim again, but... lazy :p |
| 15:34.47 | znf | 1 week in afternoon, 1 week in the morning |
| 15:34.53 | znf | and I'm not a morning person |
| 15:34.55 | chiel | ah this barbershop doesn't actually open until 11 or so |
| 15:35.00 | chiel | you and me both buddy |
| 15:35.33 | znf | my internal clock is all fucked up |
| 15:35.39 | znf | if I wake up at 8am |
| 15:35.44 | znf | (even though I slept like 10 hours) |
| 15:35.47 | chiel | yea i had that too very badly when i started working again |
| 15:35.50 | znf | by 1pm I feel sleepy as fuck |
| 15:35.55 | chiel | it's still fucked up actually |
| 15:36.19 | chiel | i sleep around 2, cause i can't sleep before that... and then i have to wake up around 8 |
| 15:36.32 | chiel | and that has been going on for almost 2 weeks now, but exhausted |
| 15:38.24 | chiel | hopefully https://gist.github.com/chielkunkels/927514cb1843cf0bf4fe will somewhat work once i get home, and at least show me some kind of resemblance of a bar :p |
| 15:39.50 | znf | wish I could be arsed to do oUF :P |
| 15:40.56 | znf | could even learn something from it |
| 15:43.35 | chiel | i'll just do player frame first i think |
| 15:43.46 | chiel | and then target frame will... more or less be a copy-paste :p |
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| 15:44.19 | chiel | i copied most of this stuff from the sample oUF_classic, just so i have something to go on once i get home |
| 15:44.22 | Timmeh | chiel: line #45: self:SetActiveStyle'Classic' |
| 15:44.28 | Timmeh | s/'Classic'/('Classic')/ |
| 15:44.36 | Timmeh | purl: thanks, you do Lua now! |
| 15:44.36 | purl | gern geschehen, Timmeh |
| 15:45.03 | Timmeh | purl: und du sprichst Deutsch! |
| 15:45.32 | Timmeh | purl: wie toll! |
| 15:45.38 | Timmeh | purl: super! geil! klasse! |
| 15:52.45 | chiel | lol |
| 15:52.50 | chiel | Timmeh: i just copied that shit :D |
| 15:52.54 | chiel | but apparently that works in Lua |
| 15:52.58 | chiel | i've seen it before |
| 15:53.11 | Timmeh | oh interesting |
| 15:53.14 | Timmeh | still ugly as shite :-) |
| 15:53.56 | silentium | A single string parameter works without brackets, but it really is ugly |
| 15:54.01 | chiel | yea |
| 15:54.17 | chiel | i agree, but idk Lua so i just copied it :D |
| 15:54.30 | chiel | editor was not throwing warnings at least |
| 15:54.35 | chiel | or well... linting errors |
| 15:54.57 | chiel | anyway, gonna head on home :) |
| 15:55.01 | chiel | see you folks tomorrow |
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| 16:01.17 | znf | All languages should do associative arrays :( |
| 16:01.44 | znf | or, at least the ones I like to use! |
| 16:01.57 | wink | Array Associates Inc. |
| 16:02.26 | znf | AutoIT has none, and I have to declare the array size beforehand! |
| 16:02.39 | znf | what stonage-ry is this? :( |
| 16:02.57 | haste | chiel: I do :) |
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| 16:17.11 | Fisker | you were the chosen one haste |
| 16:23.05 | nevcairiel | meh i ate too much |
| 16:23.09 | nevcairiel | feels sick |
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| 17:01.22 | bluworkcow | hmmm |
| 17:01.27 | bluworkcow | whats the time mr wolf |
| 17:01.29 | bluworkcow | oh yeah |
| 17:01.35 | bluworkcow | *fondle znf* |
| 17:01.45 | znf | you're creepy |
| 17:01.53 | bluworkcow | :( |
| 17:08.15 | Megalon | fondues bluworkcow with znf |
| 17:08.44 | bluworkcow | yay! |
| 17:08.48 | bluworkcow | cheese! |
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| 17:43.33 | Stanzilla | hi |
| 17:44.20 | znf | hi! |
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| 17:45.47 | quiescens | o.o |
| 17:50.46 | quiescens | nerf stanzilla |
| 18:18.07 | chiel | haste: ah, hey :p |
| 18:18.14 | chiel | just stalking oUF on github, haha |
| 18:18.34 | chiel | guys, what is the best way to draw a 1px border around a statusbar? |
| 18:19.04 | chiel | i want the background of the bar to be a different colour than the border around it, would i create a backdrop then, or a frame of type "BORDER"? |
| 18:20.11 | chiel | i guess a backdrop "feels right" |
| 18:20.25 | nevcairiel | backdrop with bgFile and edgeFile is probably what you want |
| 18:20.28 | chiel | but backdrops only appear inside the frame they are put on, or? |
| 18:21.14 | chiel | so would i then put some margins on the statusbar to fit in there, or can i tell the backdrop to pop out by 1px on all sides? |
| 18:21.42 | nevcairiel | you would have a container frame for the backdrop around the status bar, pretty much |
| 18:22.18 | nevcairiel | with unit frames, you would basically have the actual frame that is the clickable unit |
| 18:22.22 | nevcairiel | you apply the backdrop to that |
| 18:22.23 | chiel | ah ok, so i would still create a separate frame for the backdrop? |
| 18:22.26 | nevcairiel | and then plug the status bar on top |
| 18:22.49 | chiel | well, i want the bars to appear like in this screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/WI2ydHy.jpg |
| 18:22.57 | chiel | so they'll be separate |
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| 18:23.06 | chiel | so i have to put the backdrop on each of those frames then |
| 18:23.15 | chiel | at least that's what my brain is telling me :p |
| 18:23.25 | nevcairiel | i guess you could simply try applying the backdrop directly to the statusbar, see what happens |
| 18:23.32 | nevcairiel | if it doesnt work, use a separate frame |
| 18:23.51 | chiel | cool, will have a go at this |
| 18:24.19 | nevcairiel | with http://wowpedia.org/API_Frame_SetBackdrop .. which you hopefully found! |
| 18:24.36 | chiel | aye, i did :p |
| 18:24.45 | chiel | except i found it on wowprogramming.com |
| 18:24.46 | nevcairiel | and the two color setters linked on that page |
| 18:24.50 | chiel | is wowpedia a better interface? |
| 18:25.20 | nevcairiel | it may have better examples and stuff sometimes |
| 18:25.24 | chiel | the spacebar on this laptop is really fucked up >_> |
| 18:25.28 | chiel | ah ok |
| 18:25.33 | chiel | will use that then |
| 18:25.38 | nevcairiel | its hard to say which is better, they complement each other really |
| 18:26.28 | chiel | i shall use both! :D |
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| 18:33.23 | chiel | ok i have a background now |
| 18:33.26 | chiel | no border though :p |
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| 18:35.12 | chiel | aaand now i have a border too |
| 18:35.17 | chiel | but, the bar goes right over it, haha |
| 18:35.23 | chiel | so i guess i do need a frame |
| 18:35.50 | chiel | what would be the easiest way to do that, make a new frame with the powerbar as a parent, and setting top + left to -1 and right + bottom to 1? |
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| 18:43.41 | chiel | for the second frame, do i just want to `Power:CreateFrame('Frame', nil, Power) ? |
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| 18:52.38 | Repo | libperiodictable-3-1: 03muffinmanken * r444 (2 files in 2 directories): Misc.Openable: |
| 18:52.39 | Repo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:52.39 | Repo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:54.24 | Repo | libperiodictable-3-1: 03muffinmanken 04445 release * r445 : Tagging as 445 release |
| 18:56.25 | chiel | hmm,goddammit |
| 18:56.37 | chiel | now my background frame is overlaying the actual bar, haha |
| 19:01.47 | chiel | is there a method like SetAllPoints, but having an inset of 1px? :p |
| 19:16.45 | nevcairiel | just bind top left and bottom right |
| 19:21.59 | bluworkcow | nah |
| 19:22.13 | bluworkcow | just go up up down down left right left start Button B |
| 19:27.16 | znf | sometimes I wish DBM would just burn in flames |
| 19:27.31 | znf | slaps MysticalOS |
| 19:27.37 | znf | why isn't "Fiery Edge" say ON by default on HC paragons?! |
| 19:27.39 | znf | >_< |
| 19:45.28 | MysticalOS | found it to be not even remotely useful to have half the raid yell they have fiery edge when the universal strat for it is to just sit still. |
| 19:46.09 | znf | when you have people who know wth they're doing, yeah |
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| 20:55.21 | Gnarfoz | for anyone interested |
| 20:55.26 | Gnarfoz | Wildstar realms are up for a bit |
| 20:58.25 | nevcairiel | with the old beta chars? |
| 21:04.30 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: yeah, they haven't wiped, yet |
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