IRC log for #wowace on 20140515

00:10.38pompyhttp://gizmodo.com/george-r-r-martin-explains-why-he-writes-game-of-thro-1576130349
00:14.24Neffiyeah, but DOS? Geez. I thought the forward in the book mentioning DOS was a joke
00:28.10miica_fuck i love GoT, every damn show suprise you and lore keeps just goin like damn rocket
00:28.27miica_not single filler :D
00:29.42Megalonmiica_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvHK6blDJaQ if you watched this weeks ep ;p
00:30.10Neffimiica_: Now that you mention it there is surprisingly little filler. Even the songs in the books have meaning, though you usually don't realize the forshadowing until later on
00:30.21NeffiHell, even the chapter about Arya chasing cats had significance
00:30.49miica_Megalon: haha :D
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03:39.16StanzillaGoing To Need A Bigger Bag is now Account Wide.
03:39.18Stanzillathank god
03:39.53quiescenso.o
03:43.23Stanzillaoh they canceled two and a half men :(
04:19.02TorhalStanzilla: After the upcoming season. I've never watched the show, but remembered seeing that it was renewed.
04:19.54Stanzillayeah
04:24.02Fiskerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbZCzu36ucc
04:25.51pompyStanzilla: after 12 seasons...it's had it's run... lol
04:27.45Stanzillaindeed
04:28.13Fiskerits*
04:38.45Fiskerdid you see it Stanzilla ?
04:39.36Stanzillayes
04:40.35Fiskerso what did you see then?
04:41.01Stanzillathe worst edited youtube video of today
04:41.25Fiskerdoesn't say a lot
04:41.35Fiskerthough it's at least better edited than the original show
04:41.36Fiskeranyway
04:41.46Fiskerhttp://uk.download.nvidia.com/Windows/337.81/337.81-desktop-win8-win7-winvista-64bit-international-beta.exe
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04:42.27Stanzillaah
04:42.29Stanzillaneat
04:49.32pompyhttp://eu.battle.net//d3/en/blog/14005211#best lol.. that top comment under the best column in the comments section
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05:25.00quiescensi swear d3 2.0.5 ate half my frame rate compared 2.0.4 o.o
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05:32.39sbmorgen
05:33.01sbStanzilla: about time (2+1/2men)
05:38.47quiescens2.5
05:39.01sbright, 2.5 :D
05:39.18sb0.5s quiescens
05:40.03quiescensdies.
05:41.09quiescenscpu at 25%, gpu at 50%, frame rate at 40 in town o.o
05:42.35sbwhich town?
05:42.43quiescens3
05:42.57sbwhich game????
05:43.04quiescensd3x o.o
05:44.12Neffiquiescens: How are you measuring CPU usage?
05:44.29quiescenstask manager graphs
05:44.41NeffiIf a single core is pegged in a quad core/thread CPU, Windows task mgr will report your usage as 25%, even though it's 100% for that core
05:44.52quiescensnone of them are
05:44.57quiescensindividual cores are up to about 50%
05:45.14NeffiThen it could be a bad vsync implementation, or perhaps your framerate is capped at 40 if that's supported in D3
05:45.30quiescensno single core is has touched 100%, vsync is off and would cap at 60 if enabled, cap is at 70
05:45.41NeffiIf it's a regression in the new version, it could very well be a bug in the vsync code. I'd ask on the tech support forums
05:46.20NeffiAh. I'd still post in tech support
05:46.57quiescensmeh
05:47.07sbor you should get rid of your old 40fps CRT!
05:54.11nevcairielwindows wont tell you if a single core is at 100%
05:54.31quiescenswhy wouldn't it?
05:54.37nevcairielbecause it won't
05:54.50quiescensthere is a graph for each core, so i would assume that if the line in a graph is at 100%, that core is at 100%
05:55.00nevcairielbut thats not how it works
05:55.23nevcairielyou could have one thread running at 100% cpu, and windows would show a bit of load over various cores
05:56.49FiskerBTW Stanzilla
05:56.55quiescenso.o
05:57.02FiskerIf you see any release notes
05:57.05FiskerDo link
05:58.45quiescenswhy would it move a single thread back and forth between cores?
05:58.54quiescensthat would seem like a pointless thing to do
05:59.00quiescensand expensive
06:04.14FiskerThis subject intrigues me nevcairiel do go on
06:06.57NeffiI always assumed that was the scheduler being bad and bouncing the thread around to each core every tick or so,  nevcairiel
06:07.09NeffiIs that what's happening, or is the task mgr just shitty?
06:07.15nevcairielwho knows
06:07.48nevcairielbut you can write a very simple app that just does a 100% CPU spinlock, and it won't show up as pegging one core
06:08.00nevcairielwhile it obviously should
06:08.08NeffiWell at the very least, you can probably guess if the process is pegging the core by looking in the processes tab, and seeing if it sticks steady at (100/num_of_cores)%
06:09.54FiskerOh I thought you meant the task manager display didn't reflect the actual cores/threads
06:10.51nevcairielits unclear if windows just re-schedules it randomly or if the task manager is just bonkers
06:10.59NeffiIn every single instance I've checked it, I saw the behavior nev described. So even if it technically does reflect the cores, and it's just the schedular bouncing the threads, it's still effectively a useless graph
06:11.33nevcairielas of windows 8 it defaults to just one usage graph instead of the individuals, since they probably know that its useless
06:12.09nevcairiel(you can switch it back if you want to though)
06:12.09NeffiIsn't that like a huge performance concern, if the scheduler is indeed behaving the way?
06:12.15FiskerProbably some video on channel 9 that explains it
06:12.22quiescensnever mind
06:12.32quiescensi think i found what's causing it
06:12.36quiescensnow i need to find out how to fix it
06:13.05FiskerBut it's counterintuitive since you can force affinity
06:13.06quiescensmouse in the window, 47fps, move the mouse to my other screen with the game still in the foreground, 114 fps
06:13.45nevcairielwell with hundreds of processes and thousands of threads running, every process gets interrupted all the time anyway, if it moves to another core to resume.. shouldn't really impact much i would think
06:13.49sbso mouse rendering uses 67 fps!?
06:14.07sbbuy a new mouse then :/
06:14.15NeffiI'm not too familiar with cache and what would stick around where
06:15.20quiescensanymoo
06:16.36quiescensi closed off all the things i was running before i inexplicably noticed that moving my mouse out of d3 seemed to give it 80 more fps
06:16.40quiescens):
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07:49.02sbGnarfoz: ping
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08:09.18sbznf: stop hitting on zoopercat :p
08:09.46znfShoo, go away :D
08:13.01nevcairielwtf is a zoopercat
08:13.28sbnevcairiel: https://twitter.com/znuff/status/466851519690973184
08:13.51sbthe AMR girl
08:16.36chielmorning
08:16.42Timmehmorning here as well
08:17.59chiel:p
08:18.02chielgo away Timmeh
08:21.34sbmorning was like 4hours ago :/
08:22.23znfmorning is when I get wood
08:22.24znfkthx
08:26.06chiellol
08:26.40sbTMI :(
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08:28.51znfthis HTC One Mini 2 looks interesting
08:29.35sbwhy not M8?
08:29.54znf$$?
08:30.15sbmini2 is overpriced
08:30.27znfand M8 a 641€ isn't?
08:30.30znfat
08:30.38sb585 amazon.de *shrug*
08:31.12znfAnd what do I do if it breaks?
08:31.51znf523.00 gbp on .co.uk
08:32.19sbthats why you dont order on .co.uk :D
08:32.30sbalso: send in to htc if it breaks!?
08:32.42znfour local htc is known to be shady about phones bought from other places
08:34.19znfsb, where did you see the price for mini?
08:35.06sbhttp://stadt-bremerhaven.de/das-ist-das-neue-htc-one-mini-2/
08:36.21sbbut could be list price (its 680 for m8)
08:36.35znfinstead of making me read german, you could just say :D
08:36.46znfah, 449
08:37.00sboh, you didnt have the price - okay :D
08:37.34znfmeh, OnePlus One is better :D
08:38.43znfthe only reason for me to go with HTC would be Sense
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08:43.13sberrr
08:43.19Workfozfrrr
08:43.26znfmrrrr
08:43.27sbhttps://www.irccloud.com/ <--
08:43.34znfyes?
08:43.34sbbroken with chrome :D
08:43.37sbso REALLY broken
08:43.44sbjust open and see
08:43.44WorkfozI'm using it in Chrome right now
08:43.50sbthe landing page?
08:43.53znfworks fine for me
08:44.09znfoh yeah
08:44.10znflol fonts
08:44.22sbhttp://i.imgur.com/PUuW7n8.png
08:44.24sbyes
08:44.30sbworks fine in FF
08:45.08Workfozcan't access the landing page, because I'm logged in
08:45.09sbis this directwrite related?
08:45.13Workfozredirects me to the chat ui automatically
08:45.17znfprobably sb
08:45.19sbuse incognito Workfoz
08:45.27sbctrl+shift+n
08:45.30Workfoznevarrr
08:46.15Workfozlooks fine to me
08:46.34znfdo you have directwrite on?
08:46.36Workfozexcept for lots of OS X and iSomething screenshots
08:46.40WorkfozI have no idea
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08:46.44Workfozso probably not
08:46.45znfthen no
08:46.58Workfozit's off
08:48.10znfStanzilla, Level 70 heroes will now receive a greatly reduced amount of Blood Shards from Nephalem Rifts when playing in sub-level 70 games
08:48.11znf:-(
08:48.28sbstop exploiting
08:48.33quiescensyeah znf
08:48.36quiescensstop haxing
08:48.38znfno
08:48.40znfI like cheating
08:48.51quiescenscheating is wrong o.o
08:48.58znfnope
08:48.59znfperfectly fine
08:49.48znfsb, I really want a OnePlus One
08:50.00sbokay!? buy one
08:50.24znfinvite only :(
08:50.49WorkfozI'd want one if it wasn't so huge
08:51.10znfthat's a drawback, indeed
08:51.14znfbut 1080p! 3gb ram!
08:51.16znfmmm, yum
08:51.45Workfozmy s4 has similar specs~
08:51.52Workfozmaybe they'll make a oneplus one mini ;)
08:51.54quiescensi use my phone to make/receive phone calls, and to send/receive messages
08:51.56quiescenso.o
08:51.59znfyeah, but your S4 is a Samsung
08:52.01znfsorry
08:52.13Workfozso? oO :d
08:52.18znf1/10, would not buy
08:52.22WorkfozI have no patience for idealists
08:52.24quiescenssometimes for alarm, maps, calendar i guess
08:52.36Workfozit works just fine
08:57.58sbznf: whats you problem with samsung?
08:58.03sband dont tell me "software"
08:58.13znfshitty build quality
09:03.09Workfozmeaning what
09:03.15WorkfozI observed no such thing
09:03.48znfmeaning I know at least 5 people with different generation of Galaxy S that had some faulty internals broken
09:03.54znfmostly the usb port
09:04.10znfone had faulty battery (imperfect contacts, phone kept randomly resetting due it)
09:04.25Workfozthe usb port is not an "internal" and they probably broke it themselves by being brutes
09:06.14znfactually that was a known issue of that model
09:06.31Workfoz*different generations* = that model?
09:06.35Workfozor the battery
09:07.27znfI had 2 people with a SGS2 with the same issue (the USB port going bonkers - it would register a charge when there was no cable connected, for example; couldn't charge at all sometimes; sometimes it went into "driving" mode randomly)
09:07.50znfthen, a note2 had both the battery and usb port issue
09:08.38WorkfozI never know how to resolve these "supposedly *everyone* they know had issues" vs. "nobody I knows had issues" situations :p
09:08.49Workfozit boils down to too small sample size, I guess
09:09.22WorkfozI know people who had problems with their iPhones, I doubt anyone would accuse Apple of "shitty build quality", though
09:09.45znfI didn't say everyone
09:09.51znfI know some people very happy with their samsungs
09:10.01znfbut my own personal sample size tells me to stay way :P
09:10.08znfplus, I found all their designs boring as fuck
09:10.37Workfozthat's the least I care about, but... personal preference
09:10.52Workfozit could be a blank rectangle for all I care (oh wait, it is!)
09:12.09znfalso, as much as I dislike iPhones, the only problem I had with this crap I have now is that the 5th time I dropped it, the screen broke :P
09:14.44Reposkada: 03zarnivoop 041.4-16 * r524 : Tagging as 1.4-16
09:16.23Workfozjust increasing the amount of RAM on the Fisheye/Crucible VM while it's running... so nice
09:16.36Workfoz(also: it ran out of memory while trying to index our repo. >_>)
09:19.20sbboo, atlassian memory requirements
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09:28.58oscarucb<PROTECTED>
09:35.49quiescensshrug
09:36.04quiescensi've had bad parts from pretty much every manufacturer
09:36.41quiescensthe anecdotal "i know some people that had x and it turned out bad" is hardly a reliable indicator
09:37.19quiescensgives workfoz a cookie
09:38.10WorkfozHDDs are another example of that
09:38.23znfstill keeping away from samsung in that department :D
09:38.24sbor mainboards
09:38.25Workfoz(I guess everything that's mass-manufactured would be)
09:39.31quiescenslike, everything?
09:39.36znfsometimes there's "anecdotal" evidence, then sometimes you see a damn pattern
09:40.01sbGnarfoz: http://www.porterhouse-grill.de/menu.html have you been there?
09:40.10Workfoz5 people does a pattern not make
09:40.21Workfozbut it's what humans do, see patterns
09:40.23Workfozeverywheeeere
09:40.35quiescens\o/
09:40.35Workfoz(it's also why it's impossible for humans to be objective)
09:40.41nevcairielHumans have a predisposition for pattern recognition, which means even if you do see one there doesn't have to be any
09:40.41Workfozsb: no
09:41.04sboh - this especially applies to female humans, right? :D
09:41.33chielsb: thanks, i wasn't hungry enough yet.. :p
09:42.01sbyou're welcome :p
09:42.03Workfozsb: but it's literally 400 m from the office
09:42.15sb*SIGH* :D
09:42.28znfI'm just saying - after I bought 5 HDDs and 4 turned out to be defective (DOA), all Samsung, why the f* would I buy another samsung again?
09:42.37znfsure, defective batch... but...
09:43.08sbsame batch?
09:43.10Workfozor shitty merchant who didn't handle them well... or fakes :D or... bad luck
09:43.25sbwell right, where did you buy them? :p
09:43.27Workfozeveryone does that, though, so nobody's really surprised
09:43.28sbin .ro?
09:43.34znfobviously
09:43.36Workfozand I can't blame you for it, either
09:43.52nevcairielHere have some correlations http://mobile.theverge.com/2014/5/11/5706802/spurious-correlations-finds-hidden-totally-pointless-connections
09:43.54chielfor hdd i generally stick to wd
09:44.04Workfozjust saying such things it will never make sense to apply these things to other people
09:44.05znfthen, few years later; when 1TB HDDs were popular, again Samsungs were the best & cheapest at the time
09:44.09znfwe bought 2, for a raid0
09:44.14znfguess what?
09:44.28sb"best & cheapest" - wait...
09:44.40Workfozbest can easily be cheapest
09:45.15Workfozstill, even so, they sell millions upon millions, even if you bought a 100 drives that were all defective, that'd still be an insignificant data point
09:45.19Workfozin the grand scheme, that is
09:45.39znfModel Family:     SAMSUNG SpinPoint F3
09:45.41znfDevice Model:     SAMSUNG HD103SJ
09:45.43WorkfozI'm not saying it is to be expected that you'd avoid them because of that, though
09:45.49znfthat's the model
09:45.58Workfozerr... add a negation to that sentence, somewhere
09:46.00znfSure, I got them replaced with the ones, but that did make me lose 2 days :P
09:46.15znfthe same*
09:46.18Workfozyou were making a raid0, can't have been important data in the first place :D
09:47.13Workfozsb: porterhouse burger / bacon / cheddar / steakhouse fries
09:47.17nevcairielDOA is usually not the manufacturers fault, way too many factors in handling and shipping. Personally, rather have a DOA than a slow creeping death too
09:47.18Workfozyou're saying I should go there? :D
09:47.41Workfozyou can be quite certain it wasn't dead when it left the factory... ^^
09:47.43znfno, but we were waiting on them to transfer some data from another system that was waiting to be retired :P
09:47.50znfalso, this was a weird one
09:47.57znftechnically they didn't arrive both doa
09:48.03znfone was being detected by the BIOS
09:48.05znfthe other wasn't
09:48.17znfso, obviously, we just sent the "dead" one for replacement
09:48.24znfwhen it came back, time to build the raid array and copy data
09:48.30znfoops, what is that? 20K/s?!?
09:48.50znfthe 2nd one was being detected, but for some reasons it was slow as fuck
09:49.00quiescenswas that like, 5 bought at the same time?
09:49.09znfquiescens, no, that was 2 bought at the same time
09:49.16znfthe 5 bought at the same time was a few years back
09:50.08sbWorkfoz: stop it :D
09:50.24quiescensgives sb a cookie
09:50.45sbi dont want cookies, i wants burgers and steaks!
09:51.05quiescens):
09:51.23znfI want a burger, too :(
09:51.27znfand I think I shall have one
09:51.29znflater
09:51.36sbWorkfoz: i should come around and eat one :|
09:51.48sbznf: yeah, with tons of salad, WE KNOW!11 :D
09:52.03znfyes, salad, yum
09:52.07znfless fodmaps!
09:52.21quiescenscookies
09:55.15Workfozsb: colleague says place sucks, but he's only basing that on his friend's word, he wasn't there himself
09:55.40WorkfozI should check it out
09:55.41Workfoz^^
09:57.12WorkfozRepository paused due to error com.cenqua.fisheye.rep.RepositoryClientException: org.apache.subversion.javahl.ClientException: svn: E200020: Unable to parse reversed revision range '6,794-314'
09:57.14Workfozfuuuu
09:58.20chielstop talking about food >_>
09:58.37chielin like 30 mins you can start talking about food :p
10:12.48znfthis "new" mobile provider in .ro is insane :-|
10:13.23quiescensis that good or bad?
10:13.34znf5€/month the smallest package
10:13.55znftheres even a 2€/month one
10:14.44znfat 10€/month you get almost everything unlimited
10:14.58Workfoz"unlimited" ^^
10:15.15znfunlimited in their case:
10:15.29znfunlimited national minutes
10:16.10znfunlimited international minutes to "largest networks in europe" (Austria, Belgia, Bulgaria, Republica Ceha, Cipru, Danemarca, Estonia, Franta, Germania, Grecia, Italia, Irlanda, Islanda, Luxemburg, Lituania, Marea Britanie, Malta, Polonia, Portugalia, Spania, Suedia, Ungaria.)
10:16.25znfrest is like 0.0496€/minute
10:17.29znf5GB/month traffic at top speed (up to 21.6Mbps), then you're getting throttled to 128/65Kbps
10:18.14znfonly thing that's not unlimited are texts in something else than their network
10:18.49Workfozthe only interesting thing is data
10:18.59Workfozand that's limited at 5 GiB
10:19.07Workfoz(which is a *great* deal for 10€)
10:19.28znfAnd if you already subscribe to their cable, satelite OR internet services, you get it at 5€/month
10:19.39Workfozyeah, neat
10:19.52Workfozcompanies who are in a position to tend to offer such things
10:20.10znfthe only downside of this deal? their network is a bit young :P
10:20.20znfso it doesn't have great coverage yet
10:20.38znf*but* they struck out a deal with Vodafone for national roaming (free to the end user, ofcourse)
10:20.45znfexcept there's no data in roaming until 1st of july :(
10:22.41znfI'm a bit tempted to switch networks, tbh
10:23.58WorkfozI have unlimited texts & calls to everything in Germany and 2 GiB/month... for 40€/month now
10:24.20znfOuch
10:24.33Workfozcompared to that offer... very ouch, yes
10:24.51Workfozoh and 24 month contract runtime, of course
10:24.59Workfozotherwise it'd be an additional 5€ :D
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10:25.56Workfozalso you get the first 12 months for a bit less, and if I still had my DSL with them, then I'd save another 10€ on the DSL price
10:26.04Workfozbut since they don't offer VDSL, yet... =p
10:26.21znfwish they were present in my town, though, so I could get their FTTB package :P
10:26.49znf14€/month for Gigabit
10:27.11Workfozfuck thaaat.
10:27.32znfThough it's only 1000/100 :(
10:28.33Workfozwhat's easier to learn, slovak or romanian? ^^
10:28.39znfDunno
10:28.47Workfozhttp://www.bonet.sk/en/internet/bytovi-zakaznici/datove-programy/
10:28.57znfAlso, they still have a deal that you get a mobile modem for free if you have gigabit already :D
10:29.06znf(still with 5GB included traffic, but, FREE!)
10:29.11Workfoz1000/1000 for 25€ \o/
10:29.44znfThis network has really grown up
10:29.56znfI see they also made an online-tv portal
10:30.38znfhttp://www.rcs-rds.ro/internet-digi-net/mobil/prin-modem-usb
10:30.56znfso, if you have 100/500/1000 Mbit subscription, you get a modem with 5GB for free
10:31.14znfIf you want 10GB, you pay 2.25€ extra
10:32.10znfThey also have these hotspots scattered troughout the country, if you're a customer, you get access to them
10:33.30Workfozone of the biggest cable operators did that to/with their customers... pushed a firmware update that create a secondary wifi network that acts as a hotspot you can access if you're a customer
10:38.02znfSevenstorm Games invites you to experience the free to play browser MMORPG of the year – Rebel Paradigm, now in Beta! In a world of fallen gods and broken empires\  
10:38.03znfthe hell is this
10:43.36znfsb, come do the dishes
10:55.54sbno
10:58.50chielznf: you don't have a dishwasher or something?
11:05.08Workfozslavery is illegal even in Romania
11:05.50znfchiel, not really
11:05.59znfdishwashers are not that common round here
11:07.01WorkfozThe fuck happened, it's cold outside, I don't even have a jacket with me
11:07.16sbWorkfoz: its been like that the whole week!? :o
11:08.11WorkfozI can't say I agree
11:08.32WorkfozWas eating ice cream in the sun yesterday
11:09.03WorkfozI guess it's because it's actually cloudy toady
11:09.05WorkfozToday
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11:17.21WorkfozThe menu on the website doesn't quite match the one they have here
11:20.44znfWorkfoz, BAD SIGN! BAIL OUT! BAIL OUT!
11:20.53WorkfozLol
11:21.14Workfozhttp://imgur.com/euWQkDU a couple of meters >_>
11:21.35znfthe fuck is that?
11:21.58WorkfozIngress
11:22.05WorkfozYou wouk
11:22.09WorkfozWhat
11:22.19WorkfozSwiftKey, stop being bad
11:33.09chielznf: ah k, fair enough
11:33.51Workfozsb: http://imgur.com/j3lLuhB
11:34.04znfdear $deity
11:34.06znfI hate you Workfoz
11:34.27chielthe actual meat on the burger looks like it's been on the grill slightly too long
11:34.35znfyeah, definitely having a burger today
11:34.42sbnice Workfoz
11:34.52sbyup
11:43.23Reposkada: 03zarnivoop * r525  (3 files in 1 directory):
11:43.23Repoundo removal of AceConsole (#469), which broke the report command
11:51.41Reposkada: 03zarnivoop * r526 .pkgmeta: fix that .pkgmeta
11:51.48WorkfozYeah, the bun was a bit dry too
11:52.35WorkfozNice enough, but I'll have to check out what their actual steaks are like
11:55.29Reposkada: 03zarnivoop 041.4-17 * r527 : Tagging as 1.4-17
12:00.44znfthem germans still make awesome music...
12:02.16chielWorkfoz: the meat was a bit too well done, as well?
12:04.16Workfozchiel: yeah
12:08.29chielshame really
12:10.09sbznf: they do?
12:10.27znfsb, the ones I follow on Soundcloud are!
12:10.49WorkfozI only recently realized Soundcloud is German
12:11.02sbthere is good german music, but i dont think thats what you call "awesome" :D
12:12.24winkKraftwerk!
12:12.55Reposkada: 03oscarucb * r528  (3 files in 1 directory):  (2 lines trimmed from commit message)
12:12.56Repobetter fix to ticket 359
12:12.56Repoparse the /skada report command without AceConsole
12:12.56RepoAlso upgrade the command to allow specifying a set and do instance chat output
12:13.11znfWorkfoz, it is?
12:13.12znfcool
12:13.16sbfollow https://soundcloud.com/nuclearblastrecords then znf :D
12:13.20sbgood music!
12:13.25Workfozznf: yeah, it's from Berlin
12:13.41Workfozsb: still no SA and Xandria albums >_>
12:13.46WorkfozI wonder who I should curse
12:13.50znfthat's angry german music :-|
12:14.13znfThe only feature I find missing on Soundcloud is a "queue" button
12:14.33znf(there's playlists, but that's not the same thing I want)
12:20.50chielyea, queue is nice... if you want to have a one-off song but continue listening in your current context
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12:31.35znfhuh, Flash has "peer networking"
12:31.38znfnever knew that
12:32.47Workfozthat's been there for a while, yeah
12:33.39WorkfozFlash 10
12:36.09nevcairielarent we at flash 14 or somehting now
12:36.17nevcairieli lost track, i dont use anything that needs manual installs anymore
12:37.22chieldon't really understand why flash would still be used
12:37.37Workfoz13
12:37.41silentium13 on windows and mac, 11.2 on linux
12:37.53chielhtml video element and javascript can do everything that flash can I think :p
12:38.22WorkfozFlash is not just for video, derp
12:39.07nevcairielwhile its true that you can do most things without flash, you have old things that simply still use flash, or worries about older browsers
12:43.16znfI still prefer youtube videos in flash :-/
12:43.55znfactually, I think I'll give html5 a try, again
12:45.05znfwait, I can't; I'll run into the AMD feature again
12:45.29quiescens?
12:45.40quiescensstop breaking everything znf
12:45.50znfnot my fault AMD sucks!
12:46.01Timmehyay for AMD features!
12:46.02znfmy fault for buying an amd video card
12:46.07Timmehwhat AMD feature is this?
12:46.23znfTimmeh, the "downclock your GPU to 400Mhz when we hw-decode a video"
12:46.29Timmeho.o
12:46.34Timmehawesome feature
12:46.48znfit's awesomely paired with "oh, you happend to be playing a game? lol"
12:47.23znfsb / Workfoz - I just realized I don't have DirectWrite on
12:47.29znfregarding that soundcloud bug
12:47.35znferm, that irccloud bug
12:47.39quiescensthe stuff znf uses seems to coincidentally break a lot
12:48.07chielWorkfoz: i know, but javascript you could use, too
12:48.27Workfozyes, if you create something new and know how to do it in JS
12:48.40chielyea
12:50.13znfsb, are you on dev or beta?
12:50.25Timmehpft, javascript
12:50.29znfjavascript is awesome
12:50.43TimmehI was being sarcastic
12:50.46Timmehbut IRC didn't pick it up
12:51.07sbznf: chrome? dev
12:53.40Timmehbut since everyone in here knows how to use a prototypal language, everyone in here would probably write better javascript than 90% of the other "rockstars"
12:54.11znfI don't know shit!
12:54.37Repobig-wigs: 03funkydude 04r11765-release * r11765 : Tagging as r11765-release
12:55.25Timmeheveryone except for znf
12:55.33znfgood
12:55.37znfglad we cleared that up
12:55.40Timmeh:-)
13:05.26sbi want to go home :|
13:05.53znfyeah, me too
13:05.54znfoh, wait
13:07.20Workfoz:|
13:10.39quiescenso.o
13:14.28Workfoz._.
13:14.37quiescenspats workfoz
13:16.05znfsb, does this look good to you? http://jsfiddle.net/C35tS/2/
13:17.21sbyes
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14:04.21Timmehznf: you know that thing's called jsfiddle, and not svgfiddle? :-(
14:04.29znfheh
14:09.02Repobasic-chat-mods: 03funkydude * r470  (2 files in 1 directory): highlight: trim player name
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14:34.57znfWorkfoz, I just got beta access to the irccloud iOS app ^^
14:35.17Workfoz\o/
14:35.34znfnow I can share pics from the app, directly
14:35.35WorkfozI wish it wasn't 4€ ;-)
14:35.46znfI paid for it, fuck it
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14:55.53chielend of the dat 4 euros is not *that* much :p
14:56.58Workfozcertainly
14:57.13WorkfozI pay for more than enough stuff I don't really need already, though
15:00.48chieldon't we all :p
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15:14.37nevcairielI'm still not sure I see the appeal of irccloud
15:17.06nevcairielI'm not a fan of web all the things. What happened to neat dedicated tools
15:17.12Workfozit's quassel, hosted somewhere outside of your control, with a web frontend
15:17.25Workfoz(basically)
15:17.38chieli dunno, i just use irssi myself, running on a server somewhere
15:18.00Workfozsame
15:18.01Workfozprimarily
15:18.06Workfoz+irssiproxy
15:18.11Workfozbut it's not really a smooth experience
15:18.23Workfoznor should I install an IRC client at work ;P
15:18.24chieloh i don't use that, just tmux + irssi
15:18.36Workfozwtb GUI
15:18.44nevcairielI just use quassel. Screw text interfaces
15:18.44chielhehe
15:18.52chieli prefer irssi like it is
15:19.05Workfozquassel has a gui, I thought?
15:19.07Workfozoh wait, misread
15:19.08chieli spend all day on the terminal, so it's a nice extension of my workflow
15:19.25nevcairielI guess
15:19.48nevcairielI work in a big ide on a GUI application all day, so..
15:19.53silentiumscreen+irssi for PC access, quasseldroid with the core connected to irssiproxy for mobile access with backlog
15:20.10chielfair enough, i sit on a cli with vim :p
15:20.10silentiumthat's how I run my setup
15:20.50nevcairielWould seem saner to get the irssi quassel plugin and connect your irssi yo quasselcore if you must have cli
15:20.58silentiumany sane PC can access that screen session either via CLI ssh or putty
15:21.02chielsometimes i do miss just having a nice application running... but meh, then i look at vim's flexibility and i feel ok again :p
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15:21.45silentiumthe irssi part is way older than the quassel one in my setup, never touch a running system :)
15:22.18chielthat quassel looks nice though
15:22.47nevcairielIts practically screen+irssi for people with a mouse
15:22.47silentiumthis way at least I know I got working DCC in irssi, even though quassel still doesn't support it
15:23.06nevcairielPeople still use DCC?
15:23.26silentiumthere are IRC bots with a DCC chat console, yes
15:23.41nevcairielAlso quassel got early support for that recently, its not 100%,yet though
15:24.03chielyea, and seems stylable through css which is nice
15:24.12chielcause that's one thing i don't like about irssi, the way the styling happens
15:24.19chielit's hard to wrap your head around
15:24.45bluspacecowchu!
15:24.48nevcairielWell its qss but similar enough
15:25.35chielso basically you install the core somewhere on a server, and then approach that through the client interface on your local machine
15:25.38chiel?
15:26.02nevcairielPretty much
15:26.09chielnice
15:26.35bluspacecowchuchu
15:29.17silentiumthe part I really like is that the client dynamically requests chunks of the backlog from the core as you scroll up
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15:30.42silentiumso it beats regular mobile IRC clients that you have to keep running and connected for a backlog
15:39.29chieloh that's really cool yea
15:39.37chielmight look into installing that then
15:39.50chielit's not like i'm super attached to irssi, even though i do like it
15:41.41nevcairielCould try the irssi quassel plugin. No idea how well it works, but its supposed to let irssi connect to quasselcore
15:41.44Workfozyou can still use irssi to connect to quassel-core
15:42.06Workfozat least that's what I assume... do they use a custom proto? :o
15:42.13Workfoz(because irssiproxy just plays ircd)
15:42.22nevcairielYes its not a bouncer
15:42.53nevcairielCan't do all of its features and keep irc protocol
15:43.17Workfozkind-of-sad, but I guess IRC has the same issue as SMTP - it's just too old for this day and age
15:44.50znfthe only reason I like irccloud is because of the mobile app
15:44.56znfhonestly best irc client I tried
15:44.58chieli still think it's one of the best ways to communicate with people etc
15:45.24znfalso, as text-mode client, I prefer weechat these days
15:45.29chielat a previous job we had an internal irc server, worked really well
15:45.32znfbut I hardly IRC text-mode, anyway
15:45.55chielyea i have read about weechat, but i didn't read about anything that seemed amazingly appealing in comparison to irssi or anything
15:46.26chielirssi does fulfil my needs, so i'm not too fussed
15:46.53silentiumI had to patch my irssi to make its irssiproxy send proper <CR><LF> line breaks to successfully let quasselcore to it, as irssiproxy only sends <LF> by default but quasselcore expects <CR><LF> as RFC1459 indicates
15:47.42nevcairielI think qussel can handle that now
15:47.44nevcairielI remember seeing a patch
15:48.06silentiumI noticed there is a bug from 2010 in the irssi tracker, but nobody bothered to fix it so far
15:49.24silentiumbut it was easy to fix at least: bugs.irssi.org/index.php?do=details&task_id=780
15:56.21chielyea, guess irssi is not very actively maintained anymore or something
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16:06.03StanzillaHEYOOO
16:06.17bluspacecowHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEYYY SEXY LADY
16:06.24bluspacecowOpa Gundam Style!
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16:22.16StanzillaFisker: http://www.forum-3dcenter.org/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=10212535&postcount=71
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18:15.19GnarfozStanzilla: wildstar sli profile \o/ (not that I have SLI or anything)
18:17.22Stanzillayeah
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18:23.21Stanzillahttps://plus.google.com/+KirillGrouchnikov/posts/Keu1uqUwHjo
18:23.29Stanzillaso sexy
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18:51.07FiskerWhen new play store?
18:54.14Stanzillaalready out
18:54.18Stanzillajust no apk leak yet
18:55.20Fisker....
18:55.36FiskerI was of course not at am referring to the apk
18:55.47FiskerI just want pictures
18:55.59FiskerAt all*
18:58.08Stanzillagood! so I dont have to ping you when I have it
18:58.21Stanzillapaypal in gplay store is also cool
18:58.47Stanzillaalso http://www.android.gs/android-4-4-3-kitkat-update-for-google-nexus-4-nexus-5-nexus-7-and-nexus-10-to-roll-out-on-may-23/
19:06.05quiescensgo to sleep o.o
19:11.16Sinaloitanyone have any screenshots from something using LibDialog to display a dialog that has a checkbox both with and without an editbox?
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19:30.00pompyhttp://money.cnn.com/2014/05/15/technology/comcast-data-limits/index.html blahhh lol
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19:48.04znfhey Stanzilla
19:48.08znflook what gloves I got today! http://i.imgur.com/dH9nn9n.png
19:59.05FiskerI want the apk Stanzilla
19:59.22znfheh
19:59.26znfAMD released a Sempron X4
20:09.03znfpompy, well, you're somewhat fucked http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2014/05/15/fcc-approves-plan-to-allow-for-paid-priority-on-internet/
20:09.43Stanzillayeah Fisker
20:10.11pompyznf: yeah already saw...but we'll see when it gets to the public hearing part
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21:16.16StanzillaFisker: https://www.dropbox.com/s/hvnxgi9xn1bycm8/com.android.vending-1.apk
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21:32.25Megalonwhat are you vending about, stan
21:33.31Stanzillathe world
21:33.52Ressyahh.. The google apps, like play store.
21:33.58Ressyinstalling cyanogenmod?
21:35.06Stanzillanope
21:35.19Stanzillajust too impatient to wait for automatic updates
21:58.13Stanzillabut bonus nerd points for knowing the app when seing the apk name, Repo
21:58.16StanzillaRessy
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23:42.28znfStanzilla: I can see why they cancelled Tomorrows People...
23:42.41znfThe ending was so bad
23:42.48MegalonU WOT M8?????
23:42.53Megalonepic twists
23:42.56Stanzillanever watched that
23:44.32Megalonyou watching arrow too, znf?
23:44.38Megalonwhat you say about that ending then :P
23:45.07znfHaven't finished arrow yet
23:45.43Megalonwould love to see you guess who they setup as the villain for s3 :D
23:46.01znfSeriously, they could have never made a decent show out of s02 of tomorrow
23:46.48znfI could guess - Roy? :)
23:46.51Megaloncould be jedikaiah and john on a goverment funnded killingspree
23:47.09Megalonwhat, no, arrow gave roy his MASK
23:47.37znfOh...?!?
23:47.58Megalonand his own bow :D
23:48.02Megalonred themed etc
23:48.50znfDid the flash make an appearance?
23:49.13Megalonnope, they never got back to the guy in arrow, wish they had
23:49.20znfOw :(
23:49.39znfOh well, wait  for the spinoff
23:50.09Megaloni mean the spinoff is already done :<
23:50.12Megalonyea
23:51.14Megalonthe island flashback stuff is done, but they setup the next thing
23:51.41znfMkay...
23:51.44znfCouldn't guess
23:52.16Stanzillaoh god
23:52.20Stanzillajust activated tweetdeck again
23:52.28Stanzillaever tweet from the last year as a notification
23:52.29Stanzilla...
23:52.30Stanzilla*y
23:53.13znfDiggle?
23:53.34MegalonThea
23:53.42znfWat
23:53.47Megalontogether with her dad
23:53.49znfOh, Merlin
23:53.50Megalonwho isn't dead at all
23:53.54znferlyn
23:54.05znfFFA autocorrect
23:54.13Megalonmalcolm merlyn, or was that the son
23:54.31Megalonroy fucks up bad with thea :D
23:54.35Stanzillamalcom is correct
23:54.42Megalonmalcom in the middle!
23:55.03Megalonlaurel goes black carnary i guess
23:55.08znfI'll probably finish watching it this week
23:55.17Megalonand poor slate :(
23:55.30StanzillaCRIXXUS
23:55.43Megalonwhat year is CRIXXUS?
23:55.47Megalonweird roman numerals
23:56.19StanzillaI never liked him in spartacus

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