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| 00:18.22 | znf | ha |
| 00:18.29 | znf | I like this adventure mode thing in Wildstar |
| 00:18.43 | znf | at the end, it gives you random stats, like #1 staying alive |
| 00:18.46 | znf | #2 on damage done |
| 00:18.47 | znf | et |
| 00:18.49 | znf | etc |
| 00:21.41 | Neffi | staying alive is a stat? |
| 00:21.59 | Neffi | bread kitty is confused http://i.imgur.com/8zgYk.jpg |
| 00:25.17 | Stanzilla | awww |
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| 00:58.58 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/yayuxzF.png |
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| 01:31.33 | znf | boo |
| 01:31.36 | znf | I died in an adventure |
| 01:31.41 | znf | silly healer going afk :( |
| 01:31.53 | Megalon | how about not dieing |
| 01:32.38 | znf | if I knew the tard was doing afk in the middle of a boss fight... |
| 02:49.10 | quiescens | you should know better |
| 02:49.26 | Megalon | shoulda coulda woulda |
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| 05:07.50 | quiescens | o.o |
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| 06:59.15 | sb | morning |
| 07:26.34 | quiescens | o/ |
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| 08:27.29 | Workfoz | yawns |
| 08:59.22 | bluspacecow | *noms on quiescens* |
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| 09:44.36 | Workfoz | zzz |
| 09:48.24 | znf | http://what-would-i-say.com/ |
| 09:48.28 | znf | markov chains are fun |
| 09:49.03 | znf | posting in 2 languages makes up for interesting results |
| 09:49.19 | chiel | just did some reading up about garrisons |
| 09:49.32 | chiel | they're gonna be awesome, from what i've read |
| 09:52.04 | wink | znf: interesting, I've been procrastinating to code smth like this for a few weeks :) |
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| 10:12.06 | znf | Why do java coders wear glasses? |
| 10:12.09 | znf | Because they don't C# |
| 10:14.36 | chiel | hahahaha |
| 10:17.15 | Workfoz | oho |
| 10:20.12 | nevcairiel | stupid znf, i never wore glasses |
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| 10:26.59 | chiel | yea not all java programmers at my job seem to have glasses ;) |
| 10:27.29 | sb | same here, but i think i should wear glasses :D |
| 10:29.07 | wink | has had glasses for ~ 15 years and takes them off when at a computer |
| 10:29.35 | wink | only need em for xbox when I'm ~2+ m away |
| 10:35.40 | Workfoz | I can't read anything on my screen when I'm not wearing my glasses |
| 10:35.50 | Workfoz | and my face is like 50 cm away from the screen, if that |
| 10:35.55 | Workfoz | (wtb tape measure) |
| 10:40.37 | quiescens | o.o |
| 10:40.44 | quiescens | get back to work workfoz |
| 10:40.52 | Workfoz | noty |
| 11:00.55 | znf | I'm 99% sure that I was supposed to do something productive today |
| 11:01.11 | Workfoz | hah |
| 11:01.31 | Workfoz | < see nick, laugh |
| 11:04.15 | znf | oh well, tumblr porn it is |
| 11:06.13 | sb | huh? |
| 11:06.19 | sb | tumblr porn is productive? |
| 11:06.43 | harl | sure |
| 11:06.53 | znf | no, but follow 150+ porn blogs on tumblr, enable infinite scrolling mode |
| 11:06.56 | znf | == "fun" for hours |
| 11:08.38 | harl | try 500+ |
| 11:10.10 | znf | too many reblogs in 500 :P |
| 11:10.22 | znf | oh, wait |
| 11:10.29 | znf | actually I'm following 252 blogs |
| 11:14.15 | harl | reblogs don't matter. there aren't many really, or they get cancelled out, idk.. |
| 11:42.07 | Workfoz | Lunch is fun when you have lockjaw |
| 11:54.04 | znf | mmm, it took me one hour to make a salad ready |
| 12:03.18 | sb | wurschdsalat? |
| 12:10.11 | znf | sb, chicken, rucola, chinese cabbage, boiled eggs, radish, olives, red beans, corn and some cheese |
| 12:11.29 | sb | screw this, eat more beef |
| 12:13.53 | znf | sb, too lazy to cook beef |
| 12:16.55 | znf | also, beef is best cooked on the grill |
| 12:19.02 | sb | so..? |
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| 12:19.13 | znf | I eat alone? :( |
| 12:19.20 | znf | and I'm not firing the grill up for one person |
| 12:20.33 | bluspacecow | i come! |
| 12:20.49 | sb | errr, you just spent 1 hour making salad :D |
| 12:20.56 | bluspacecow | [_____________________________________] |
| 12:20.59 | bluspacecow | ^ ma mouth |
| 12:21.06 | sb | *inserts quiescens* |
| 12:21.13 | bluspacecow | om nom nom |
| 12:22.42 | znf | sb, yeah, but making a fire with coals and shit, waiting for the fire to go down etc. |
| 12:22.44 | znf | then cooking |
| 12:23.05 | znf | oh, yay, they fixed the latency display in Wildstar |
| 12:23.10 | znf | but it seems they screwed the FPS even more |
| 12:23.57 | znf | last night I had 30-40fps in Illium |
| 12:24.00 | znf | Now I have 17-20 |
| 12:29.47 | quiescens | o.o |
| 12:30.05 | quiescens | grats |
| 12:38.07 | Workfoz | znf: :( |
| 12:38.30 | Workfoz | well, my fps isn't stable either, and my computer is > yours |
| 12:38.37 | Workfoz | I haven't checked today |
| 12:38.55 | sb | is wildstar performance that bad? |
| 12:39.22 | nevcairiel | its just not very optimized or polished, or so it feels |
| 12:42.52 | znf | I have 19 fps on the login screen |
| 12:42.52 | znf | wtf |
| 12:43.19 | Workfoz | it's rather unclear what causes it, so I'm refraining from saying it needs "optimization" of any particular kind (just saying "it's not optimized" is kind of a non-statement... low fps is not optimal? who'd have thought) |
| 12:43.49 | znf | this wasn't the case last night :( |
| 12:45.07 | Workfoz | in some areas, it's supposedly the view distance being very high, or bad object, texture placements (things overlapping, causing z- or other geometry fighting), bad scripts/effects (stuff like "player clicks object, object reacts, does an animation, gains a texture to colour it differently, texture stays forever - more players = more textures, repeat ad |
| 12:45.07 | Workfoz | nauseam) |
| 12:45.59 | Workfoz | also, when they replaced half their UI with the UI 2.0 patch, they replaced a big pile of working addons that had usabilty problems with a big pile of addons that are a lot more streamlined, but are new and have various performance problems |
| 12:46.03 | Workfoz | and so on |
| 12:46.22 | Workfoz | too bad they have their release date looming over them, but you gotta release at some point or other, MMOs are never finished anyway |
| 12:47.52 | sb | june 3rd - meh |
| 12:48.11 | sb | so i can join 3 weeks later :D |
| 12:48.18 | Workfoz | why? |
| 12:48.33 | sb | vacation |
| 12:49.49 | znf | I'm not saying anything about "optimization" either |
| 12:49.56 | znf | I'm just saying the performance is still crap |
| 12:52.13 | znf | and I'm expecting a game in 2014 to perform better without quad-sli |
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| 12:55.22 | chiel | quad-sli? |
| 12:55.25 | chiel | holy fuckin shit |
| 12:56.43 | sb | "without" :p |
| 13:02.14 | chiel | oh |
| 13:02.15 | chiel | right |
| 13:02.34 | chiel | but even then... wouldn't mind having me some quad-sli |
| 13:02.43 | nevcairiel | znf: your pc is still crap, even with the new cpu, though =p |
| 13:02.56 | chiel | my computer's about 3 years old now |
| 13:03.02 | chiel | probably am about due a new one |
| 13:03.26 | znf | nevcairiel, sure, I'm not saying it's a high-end gaming rig |
| 13:03.45 | Workfoz | nevcairiel: he's right though, it should have these kind of performance drops on my machine |
| 13:04.12 | Workfoz | I think I had 9 fps on a taxi the other night |
| 13:04.24 | znf | but for a MMO, I don't think it's normal to require the latest high-end GPU to play it |
| 13:04.25 | nevcairiel | like i said, it doesnt feel very optimized or polished yet |
| 13:04.36 | chiel | i get a load of money end of the bonus as a fuck-off bonus from my previous job... kinda tempted to invest in a new computer |
| 13:04.39 | znf | unless they want to fail badly |
| 13:04.57 | znf | I do have a bad feeling that it will go F2P in one year |
| 13:05.18 | chiel | how much does a somewhat new computer cost nowadays anyway? |
| 13:05.32 | nevcairiel | depends where you aim on the scale |
| 13:05.33 | Workfoz | you can spend pretty much as much as you like on a computer :p |
| 13:05.38 | chiel | don't need the latest and greatest video cards or anything |
| 13:05.51 | Workfoz | znf: even people with titans are complaining, so it's not really a matter of available power |
| 13:05.58 | nevcairiel | could probably build a pretty decent system with 1k € |
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| 13:06.13 | chiel | hmm, that's not too bad |
| 13:06.21 | chiel | i don't mind spending slightly more than that either |
| 13:06.36 | Workfoz | Maxwell cards should come out, would make recommendations easier |
| 13:06.38 | nevcairiel | well once you go near the highe end, the gpu alone will be 400-500 |
| 13:06.56 | chiel | i am ok with that |
| 13:07.11 | chiel | i only use my computer for gaming, use a laptop for most other stuff |
| 13:07.28 | nevcairiel | high end can probably be had for 1.5k, if you don't go overkill with SLI or stuff like that |
| 13:07.51 | chiel | nah i think one graphics card should be fine |
| 13:08.12 | chiel | btw i think i have you on my battle.net friends list nevcairiel |
| 13:08.19 | nevcairiel | 500 for a high end gpu, 300 for the cpu, 150-200 for the mainboard, ~100-150 for 16gb ram .. everything else is just small stuff |
| 13:08.35 | chiel | do manufacturers really matter all that much when it comes to gpus? |
| 13:08.45 | chiel | i guess that mainly comes down to cooling/noise, right? |
| 13:08.48 | nevcairiel | not that much |
| 13:08.49 | Workfoz | that ^ |
| 13:08.50 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 13:08.56 | chiel | alright |
| 13:09.06 | chiel | and amv vs intel, my previous card was an amd |
| 13:09.11 | chiel | amd * |
| 13:09.16 | Workfoz | this is the first time in years I've ordered something from Amazon that didn't arrive the next day |
| 13:09.24 | Workfoz | you mean amd or nvidia |
| 13:09.29 | chiel | err yes |
| 13:09.30 | chiel | sorry |
| 13:09.32 | nevcairiel | amd vs intel is no choice, intel for cpu :p |
| 13:09.34 | Workfoz | and the answer is probably nvidia :P |
| 13:09.46 | nevcairiel | around here most people seem to prefer nvidia |
| 13:09.50 | Workfoz | although that situation is a lot closer than intel vs. amd |
| 13:09.50 | chiel | yea, always go with intel for mobo/cpu |
| 13:10.04 | znf | nvidia |
| 13:10.11 | znf | take it from an amd user |
| 13:10.13 | znf | get nvidia |
| 13:10.17 | chiel | and fair enough, nvidia seems to be a bit more expensive but you get a bit more reliable stuff for it |
| 13:10.22 | chiel | yea, am amd user as well atm |
| 13:10.23 | znf | you want nvidia. |
| 13:10.24 | chiel | at least for gpu |
| 13:10.29 | chiel | yep |
| 13:10.31 | chiel | alright alright |
| 13:10.35 | znf | that retarded hw-accel bug still kills me sometimes |
| 13:10.44 | nevcairiel | its not a bug, its working as designed |
| 13:10.45 | Workfoz | they actually have the better card, I think, but their drivers are a bad joke |
| 13:10.59 | chiel | hmm fair enough |
| 13:11.10 | chiel | in terms of manufacturers, i heard evga is pretty nice for nvidia cards? |
| 13:11.14 | znf | nevcairiel, I refuse to consider halfing the core clock to half when watching a video "working as intended" |
| 13:11.58 | znf | (I'm not saying you're not right) |
| 13:11.59 | Workfoz | chiel: for that, read some actual comparisons by hardware review sites, to pick a specific vendor |
| 13:12.19 | znf | meh, the group finder needs more work |
| 13:12.24 | chiel | yea, had done some reading around before, but no "definite" conclusion. i shall read some more |
| 13:12.32 | Workfoz | EVGA are popular in the US afaik, because they offer very good warranties |
| 13:12.34 | znf | you can't replace people if they disconnect in a group, and you can't queue for both pvp and pve at the same time |
| 13:12.49 | Workfoz | which are not necessarily relevant in europe, since you get better customer protection in the EU anyway |
| 13:13.31 | chiel | fair enough, i'll have to do more reading on the subject |
| 13:13.51 | znf | I really don't understand why you have to buy abilities for money in Wildstar |
| 13:13.51 | chiel | when it comes to cpu sockets, what's the latest? i have a z68 now, i haven't really been keeping up |
| 13:13.54 | chiel | sandy bridge thingy |
| 13:14.00 | znf | chiel, haswell refresh |
| 13:14.13 | Workfoz | haswell refresh is basically "just out the door" |
| 13:14.17 | nevcairiel | yeah they just posted a new badge of chipsets and cpus |
| 13:14.20 | Workfoz | and it really is just "haswell, with higher clocks" |
| 13:14.33 | chiel | hmm ok cool |
| 13:14.33 | znf | didn't you guys say that they swapped around some controllers? |
| 13:14.37 | Workfoz | znf: because... you have to in most RPGs? ^^ even WoW did it for years upon years |
| 13:14.52 | znf | Workfoz, yeah, but what's the point? |
| 13:14.57 | Workfoz | the point? |
| 13:15.01 | Workfoz | what is the point of anything |
| 13:15.03 | nevcairiel | you pay a trainer to teach you |
| 13:15.04 | Workfoz | why have currency |
| 13:15.24 | znf | you need to be a certain level to unlock the ability, then you have to use an ability point for it (and a slot), and you have to pay gold for it |
| 13:15.41 | znf | seems to me like an overkill |
| 13:15.51 | Workfoz | you don't need an ability point for it |
| 13:16.01 | Workfoz | also, the first 3 are not currencies |
| 13:16.13 | Workfoz | I don't get how you can even ask this question seriously |
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| 13:16.50 | znf | How hard is it to get it? The ability is already "locked" behind a number of mechanics; Why the fuck do I have to pay for it, too? |
| 13:16.53 | Workfoz | you're only asking it because you don't have enough money to buy *everything*, right? |
| 13:17.06 | znf | Now I'm level 18, with 6 extra cool abilities on the table, which I don't have money for |
| 13:17.10 | Workfoz | locked? you're joking |
| 13:17.10 | nevcairiel | of course he does, all his motivation is complaining :p |
| 13:17.21 | znf | Makes for a shitty starting experience |
| 13:17.26 | Workfoz | ridiculous. |
| 13:17.44 | Workfoz | they intentionally limit the number of action slots, so you don't feel like you have to buy everything at once |
| 13:18.02 | nevcairiel | 18 is not starting anymore, if you didnt have the money to buy your first two abilities, that would be stupid :p |
| 13:18.05 | Workfoz | and calling 'leveling up' a 'mechanic that locks away abilities' is really twisted |
| 13:18.27 | znf | level with me here: I'm leveling a new char, never played this game before; how do I know if I want that ability or not without being able to try it? |
| 13:18.43 | Workfoz | (and it's the only mechanic. how is having access to a limited number of action bar slots a mechanic. and the tier point thing (if you mean tier points) is just plain untrue) |
| 13:18.51 | Workfoz | znf: by reading the tooltip |
| 13:19.10 | znf | that doesn't tell me much; What's the "shape" of the telegraph? Maybe I'm weird like that and I want pretty shapes |
| 13:19.33 | Workfoz | that's nice for you, but there's no reason to cater to such silliness |
| 13:19.56 | Workfoz | and you have to find out what you want to use by trial and error, as it was in the "good old days" that so many wow players keep crying about |
| 13:20.04 | Workfoz | do you want "beginner's tooltips"? |
| 13:20.08 | Workfoz | they have them in WoW |
| 13:20.21 | znf | I have them turned on. That doesn't tell me much. |
| 13:20.24 | Workfoz | "this is a good ability for fighting enemies at range" ^^ |
| 13:20.30 | Workfoz | huh? in WoW, I mean |
| 13:20.36 | Workfoz | they don't exist in Wildstar, to my knowledge |
| 13:21.18 | znf | well, I have those tutorials on, whatever they're called |
| 13:21.34 | chiel | hmm, so what socket is haswell refresh? any of 1155, 2011 or 1150? |
| 13:21.35 | znf | I'm simply saying that I don't see a point in making the abilities cost currencies |
| 13:21.40 | chiel | cause otherwise this webshop does not sell it :p |
| 13:21.44 | znf | 1150, chiel |
| 13:22.00 | Workfoz | znf: well, then complain about WoW doing the same for years, please |
| 13:22.03 | Workfoz | even if it's too late now |
| 13:22.06 | chiel | ta mate, i am not so at home with the hardware. i can build a pc just fine, but that's about the extent of my knowledge :p |
| 13:22.22 | znf | Workfoz, they figured out years ago that it didn't make sense. Plus WoW never limited your action bar slots. |
| 13:22.43 | Workfoz | the latter is true |
| 13:22.48 | znf | want rank1 to 10 for that "heal" spell? have it! |
| 13:23.06 | Workfoz | they removed ranks at the same time as they removed skill training costs, I think |
| 13:24.49 | Workfoz | anyway, I react this way, because so many complaints (not necessarily just yours) sound like "meeeh this sucks" even though it was this way or very similar in WoW of old... and at the same time I hear "this game is going to be great, 40 man raids, hard content, blah blah, like WoW once used to be before blizz ruined it" |
| 13:24.54 | Workfoz | it just... makes my head explode :p |
| 13:25.44 | Workfoz | also, the utter inflexibility of it. DEAL WITH IT. kill more mobs, gain more money, spend less on whatever you're spending it on now and go buy ALL the abilities if you want them. :P |
| 13:26.12 | Workfoz | sure, it could be changed to be different, and that would probably be nice, too, but it certainly also works the way it is |
| 13:26.21 | znf | I just have higher expectation from a mmo in 2014 |
| 13:26.21 | Workfoz | I'm level 22 and I have bought all abilities so far |
| 13:26.28 | Workfoz | no you have DIFFERENT expectations |
| 13:26.31 | Workfoz | not HIGHER expectations |
| 13:26.53 | Workfoz | I don't see how it makes the game any worse, it just isn't the same -__ |
| 13:26.59 | Workfoz | I guess my shift key is sticky. :P |
| 13:27.09 | chiel | i wonder why |
| 13:27.09 | znf | I don't know how you got gold to earn every damn ability |
| 13:27.10 | chiel | :3 |
| 13:27.14 | znf | I have 81silver now |
| 13:27.23 | znf | and I'm selling every piece of junk I come across |
| 13:27.27 | Workfoz | znf: I didn't buy them all when they first became available, I bought them alter on |
| 13:27.29 | Workfoz | *later |
| 13:27.35 | znf | didn't bother with trading skills |
| 13:27.37 | Workfoz | but I'm only 22, there's still some locked ones |
| 13:27.42 | znf | sold everything I had on the AH |
| 13:28.03 | Workfoz | you might just have been unlucky then, because I even spent some money and leveled tailoring and cooking for a bit |
| 13:28.08 | Workfoz | or maybe they changed gold drops >_> |
| 13:28.13 | Workfoz | it's still beta after all ^^ |
| 13:28.26 | Workfoz | (not that I expect any big changes, launch is in 3 weeks?) |
| 13:29.19 | znf | also, 40m raids will suck; welcome to 2005 |
| 13:31.01 | Workfoz | 2004, even! :D |
| 13:31.31 | Workfoz | and... that's not the only raid size there is, of course, but the 20 man instance is a different one |
| 13:34.19 | znf | Workfoz, it's the one size that matters :P |
| 13:34.32 | znf | 25m back in WoTLK wasn't the only one, but it was the one that mattered |
| 13:34.55 | Workfoz | if you say so |
| 13:35.24 | quiescens | o.o |
| 13:35.29 | Workfoz | if 40 man is actually going to suck (for no reason, just because you say it will), then maybe the "elite" groups will agree, and rather make 20 man the important size |
| 13:35.37 | Workfoz | I doubt it, though, since 40 man has the best loot ;p |
| 13:36.44 | znf | well, doh |
| 13:37.12 | Workfoz | I'm looking forward to TI4 |
| 13:37.15 | znf | would you do 10m in WoW right now if the loot wasn't the same as in 25m? |
| 13:37.32 | Workfoz | probably |
| 13:37.34 | chiel | yup |
| 13:37.39 | chiel | just really enjoy 10man much more |
| 13:37.45 | chiel | and in the end i play to enjoy myself |
| 13:37.53 | chiel | really don't like that they're making mythic 20m only |
| 13:38.00 | Workfoz | because we lead our own group, and it's not big enough to do 25 man, and finding another 17 non idiots, and managing them all the time, is not something we want to go back to |
| 13:38.17 | Workfoz | which is probably the reason that, in the end, we won't be doing mythic under our own power anymore |
| 13:38.28 | Workfoz | we made the 25 -> 10 decision a long time ago |
| 13:40.59 | Workfoz | man, I came in so early today (compared to my usual time) that I feel like I should be going home about now |
| 13:41.07 | Workfoz | but it's not even 16:00 :\ |
| 13:54.42 | chiel | haha |
| 13:54.44 | chiel | go hooome |
| 13:54.52 | chiel | but yea, pretty tired of managing other people |
| 13:54.56 | chiel | more people = more drama too, usually |
| 13:55.06 | chiel | unless you get some actual mature people, but those are few and far between |
| 13:55.59 | chiel | hmm |
| 13:55.59 | chiel | Intel® Core™ i7-4770K |
| 13:56.00 | chiel | (FC-LGA4, "Haswell", boxed) |
| 13:56.06 | znf | that's not the refresh |
| 13:56.08 | chiel | that just says haswell |
| 13:56.09 | chiel | yea |
| 13:56.16 | chiel | i don't think this webshop has it yet, or something |
| 13:56.16 | nevcairiel | they dont have a K replacement in the refresh |
| 13:56.43 | nevcairiel | since you can just OC the K anyway, they probably didnt think it was worth putting out one with a higher base clock |
| 13:57.01 | znf | do the old ones work with the new mobo chipsets |
| 13:57.04 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 13:57.14 | chiel | well, all the cpus on this site only say "haswell" |
| 13:57.19 | chiel | not "haswell refresh" |
| 13:57.47 | nevcairiel | here is a list of cpus of the refresh line: http://anandtech.com/show/7963/the-intel-haswell-refresh-review-core-i7-4790-i5-4690-and-i3-4360-tested/2 |
| 13:58.36 | nevcairiel | they are really the same cpu with maybe slightly better thermals since the process matured, and a higher stock clock because of that |
| 14:01.50 | Fisker | old nevcairiel |
| 14:02.11 | Fisker | as it also says the new highend k's aren't out until next month |
| 14:02.21 | Fisker | also has better tim |
| 14:03.56 | *** join/#wowace Ressy (~resa1983@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/ARL/Ressy) |
| 14:05.38 | Workfoz | tim is an asshole |
| 14:05.38 | chiel | hmm |
| 14:06.07 | chiel | so it won't actually be labeled as "haswell refresh" just simply... hey, it's a reshresh of the haswell line, so we'll still call it haswell? |
| 14:08.01 | chiel | manufacturers matter for motherboards? or also not really relevant? |
| 14:08.01 | Workfoz | yes |
| 14:10.41 | chiel | my current board is an asus |
| 14:10.57 | chiel | don't really have any issues with it or anything, just curious if there's really a difference |
| 14:11.58 | Timmeh | Workfoz: you're an asshole :-( |
| 14:12.09 | Timmeh | chiel: ohai |
| 14:12.20 | Workfoz | Timmeh: quite |
| 14:13.06 | Timmeh | chiel: back on WoW, I take it? |
| 14:13.33 | Timmeh | chiel: also, I'd go with ASUS or Gigabyte |
| 14:14.19 | Timmeh | chiel: let me know what kinda system you put together, I'm about to go looking for stuff myself :-D |
| 14:15.31 | chiel | Timmeh: hey man, yea :p |
| 14:15.36 | chiel | since ~2 weeks |
| 14:15.42 | Timmeh | cool |
| 14:16.07 | chiel | yea it's pretty nice, transferred as well |
| 14:16.09 | chiel | to draenor |
| 14:16.12 | Timmeh | alliance side? we may have a raid spot every now and then, if you get yourself some gear :-P |
| 14:16.20 | chiel | horde mate |
| 14:16.24 | Timmeh | well, screw you |
| 14:16.26 | chiel | have been for years |
| 14:16.39 | chiel | what realm you on? |
| 14:16.45 | Timmeh | Vek'nilash-EU |
| 14:16.46 | Timmeh | it's dead |
| 14:16.49 | Timmeh | don't transfer there :-P |
| 14:16.50 | chiel | ah k |
| 14:16.55 | chiel | oh i'm not |
| 14:17.03 | chiel | was just thinking if i was to make another character or something |
| 14:17.11 | chiel | gnome brewmaster monk, op |
| 14:17.11 | Timmeh | our realm doesn't even have a Garrosh HC kill yet :-) |
| 14:17.13 | Timmeh | like, at all |
| 14:17.15 | chiel | really? |
| 14:17.17 | chiel | dayum |
| 14:17.22 | Timmeh | it's that dead |
| 14:17.34 | chiel | swc is probably the same |
| 14:17.40 | chiel | but yea, transferred out of that shithole |
| 14:18.04 | chiel | Timmeh: where do you usually buy parts in holland? alternate? |
| 14:18.11 | Timmeh | noo |
| 14:18.13 | Timmeh | they're expensive |
| 14:18.23 | Timmeh | centralpoint or azerty, generally |
| 14:18.29 | chiel | cool, ta |
| 14:18.34 | Timmeh | np |
| 14:19.03 | Timmeh | also, tweakers.net/pricewatch and nl.hardware.info/prijsvergelijker |
| 14:20.01 | sb | i want to buy some prijsvergelijker! |
| 14:20.08 | Timmeh | you know it! |
| 14:20.20 | chiel | cool, i am just checking what i actually wanna buy, i'll do the actual price comparison at the end of the month when i order :p |
| 14:20.38 | chiel | also want to buy a decent case now |
| 14:20.53 | chiel | i have an antec atm, which isn't terrible, but i am a bit bored of the door at the front |
| 14:21.23 | Timmeh | I was thinking about building a mini-itx one, but that may just be too much hassle and require too loud fans |
| 14:22.23 | Timmeh | chiel: what price range you thinking? |
| 14:22.24 | sb | i'm still in love with http://geizhals.de/fractal-design-define-r4-black-pearl-fd-ca-def-r4-bl-a812617.html |
| 14:22.30 | znf | I'm an asrock/asus guy |
| 14:22.36 | nebula169 | thought the whole point of mini itx was low power, little need for fans |
| 14:22.38 | chiel | Timmeh: case-wise, you mean? |
| 14:22.40 | sb | amazing case |
| 14:22.44 | Timmeh | chiel: no, PC wise |
| 14:23.11 | chiel | dunno yet entirely, it depends a bit how much money i get as a fuck-off bonus |
| 14:23.15 | chiel | but i think it will be around 8k |
| 14:23.19 | Timmeh | o.o |
| 14:23.30 | chiel | which i obviously won't all spend on a pc :p |
| 14:23.34 | Timmeh | oh |
| 14:23.42 | chiel | but something around the 1.5k mark seems realistic |
| 14:23.48 | Timmeh | right |
| 14:23.49 | Timmeh | yea |
| 14:24.01 | chiel | also need to buy a new bed and some other shit for the apartment :p |
| 14:24.06 | Timmeh | I'm thinking 1k-1.2k, but may end up a bit more expensive |
| 14:24.25 | Timmeh | is this yet-another-previous-job btw? or still the one from a few months back? |
| 14:24.57 | chiel | the one from like 1 month back, yea :p |
| 14:25.04 | Timmeh | right |
| 14:25.26 | Timmeh | chiel: we can probably order a similar/identical PC then, since our budget is similar :-P let's share infos |
| 14:25.31 | Timmeh | when we find stuff |
| 14:25.42 | Timmeh | sb: that case does look nice |
| 14:26.53 | chiel | sure |
| 14:26.56 | chiel | i know that case yea |
| 14:27.00 | chiel | i quite like this one: http://azerty.nl/8-1044-509160/corsair-vengeance-c70-midtow.html |
| 14:27.09 | chiel | on the inside as well, and i'm a fan of the big grilla t the top |
| 14:27.41 | Timmeh | I prefer it looking a bit cleaner on the outside |
| 14:27.57 | Timmeh | but to each his own, and everything |
| 14:28.37 | Timmeh | chiel: http://www.wowace.com/addons/libpubsub-1-0/ |
| 14:28.50 | Timmeh | chiel: little moo inspired pubsub library :-P |
| 14:29.16 | Timmeh | figured you'd find that amusing |
| 14:29.47 | chiel | ah nice, so you don't have to deal with the verbose way of handling events? |
| 14:30.17 | Timmeh | there's AceEvents as well, which makes things easy I guess |
| 14:30.20 | Timmeh | but I liked my own version |
| 14:30.32 | Timmeh | it's basically moo's Events mixin |
| 14:30.35 | Timmeh | but then for WoW |
| 14:30.35 | nevcairiel | dealing with wows events is hardly verbose =p |
| 14:31.05 | Timmeh | just rename addEvent to Subscribe and removeEvent to Unsubscribe :-P |
| 14:31.45 | chiel | well could be worse, of course :p |
| 14:32.56 | chiel | but yea, case won't matter too much i guess. i'd ideally just like to build a system that's quiet |
| 14:33.00 | silentium | for combinations of fitting components (performance-wise) there is http://www.logicalincrements.com/ as well |
| 14:33.16 | chiel | cause my current one when i turn it off... it's like a deafening silence |
| 14:33.28 | chiel | silentium: cool, ta |
| 14:36.23 | sb | "Latest update: 3rd May 2014 - Germany added." - nice :D *bookmark* |
| 14:36.45 | Timmeh | where's the netherlands?! |
| 14:37.12 | silentium | below sea level soon anyway ;) |
| 14:37.19 | Timmeh | 60% of it already is |
| 14:37.28 | Stanzilla | nice diablo changes |
| 14:37.32 | Timmeh | chiel: <- below sea level |
| 14:37.38 | Timmeh | Timmeh: <- above sea level |
| 14:38.06 | silentium | Timmeh: so you are smaller than chiel? ;) |
| 14:38.31 | Timmeh | I'd have to be bigger to be above sea level, right? :-P |
| 14:38.39 | Timmeh | but we're about the same height, I think >_> |
| 14:39.00 | chiel | think so yea, I'm 187 |
| 14:39.33 | silentium | I was thinking surfaces, 60% vs 40% |
| 14:39.43 | Timmeh | oh |
| 14:39.58 | Timmeh | in surface we're probably about the same as well, unless chiel's new work outs lost him a lot of weight |
| 14:40.02 | Timmeh | :-D |
| 14:40.11 | chiel | nope :p |
| 14:40.17 | chiel | still a fatty |
| 14:41.26 | Timmeh | silentium: that does look like a nice website |
| 14:41.36 | Timmeh | they should definitely add the netherlands |
| 14:41.41 | chiel | ay |
| 14:41.42 | chiel | aye * |
| 14:41.53 | chiel | but it's good to get an impression at least, then can just use pricewatch i guess |
| 14:43.38 | Timmeh | http://uk.hardware.info/wishlist/563490/thr/wishlist <- wishlist I made a few months back, probably no longer up-to-date, and not finished anyway |
| 14:43.48 | Timmeh | http://nl.hardware.info/wensenlijst/563490/thr/wishlist <- eh, Dutch prices |
| 14:44.09 | pompy | also http://pcpartpicker.com |
| 14:44.17 | nevcairiel | shouldnt really bother with socket 2011 stuff at this time |
| 14:45.20 | Timmeh | nevcairiel: because there's a new architecture + socket? |
| 14:45.58 | nevcairiel | either buy haswell/haswell refresh now, or wait half a year for 2011-3 with haswell-e |
| 14:46.13 | Timmeh | I see |
| 14:46.27 | Timmeh | well, I don't really want to wait half a year |
| 14:46.42 | Timmeh | nevcairiel: also, any idea about videocards? |
| 14:46.49 | Timmeh | esp. R9 290X vs. GTX 780, I guess |
| 14:47.03 | quiescens | get the purple one |
| 14:47.09 | Timmeh | perle! |
| 14:47.15 | Timmeh | perple! |
| 14:47.21 | nevcairiel | if i were to build a high-end box right now, i would probably get a 780ti, or at least a 780 if i wanted to cheap out :p |
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| 14:47.40 | Timmeh | nevcairiel: kk, so AMD still not interesting enough? |
| 14:47.42 | quiescens | i only has an r7 o.o |
| 14:47.51 | Timmeh | quiescens: I have an AMD HD 4870 |
| 14:47.54 | Timmeh | :-( |
| 14:47.59 | Timmeh | Radeon HD 4870* |
| 14:48.19 | quiescens | gives timmeh a cookie |
| 14:48.22 | Timmeh | \o/ |
| 14:49.04 | chiel | i have a radeon hd 6xxx series, i think it's 68xx or something, but i can't remember for shit |
| 14:58.49 | chiel | those corsair carbide cases look kinda funny too |
| 14:58.53 | chiel | they're shorter but wider |
| 14:59.14 | znf | meh, I crshed Wildstar |
| 15:00.03 | chiel | superhappyfuntimes |
| 15:00.43 | quiescens | \o/ |
| 15:03.50 | Timmeh | nevcairiel: any specific product number series the "haswell refresh" CPUs are in? |
| 15:04.22 | nevcairiel | get a list http://anandtech.com/show/7963/the-intel-haswell-refresh-review-core-i7-4790-i5-4690-and-i3-4360-tested/2 |
| 15:06.01 | Timmeh | thanks |
| 15:07.56 | quiescens | buy something cheapish~ |
| 15:08.03 | quiescens | the expensive stuff never feels worth it ): |
| 15:14.25 | Fisker | the MSRP is the same, but likely retailers are going to want to dump the old ones a bit cheaeper |
| 15:14.27 | Fisker | cheaper* |
| 15:14.42 | Fisker | and they're probably not worth the extra premium unless you're specifically overclocking in which case wait a month |
| 15:16.05 | znf | our retailers still haven't dropped the price on sandy bridge chips... |
| 15:17.03 | quiescens | znf has more computing power than most of the country put together |
| 15:17.11 | chiel | xD |
| 15:17.17 | znf | y u make fun of me? :( |
| 15:17.26 | quiescens | ): |
| 15:17.30 | quiescens | gives znf a cookie |
| 15:17.31 | quiescens | there there |
| 15:19.19 | Timmeh | are the K models the oc aimed versions? |
| 15:19.31 | znf | yeah, the K versions have an unlocked multiplier |
| 15:19.32 | Timmeh | as in SUPER DUPER AWESOME HIGH END stuff with a TDP that goes through the roof? |
| 15:19.36 | Timmeh | right |
| 15:20.07 | znf | I don't think the TDP is higher? I'm not sure :P |
| 15:20.14 | Timmeh | oh I figured it would be :-P |
| 15:20.56 | Timmeh | but probably a TDP of 200 bucks more expensive then :-P |
| 15:22.48 | Timmeh | ah, hm, looks like the price difference between 4770 and 4770K is 36 EUR |
| 15:23.17 | chiel | that's not that much, in the grand scheme of things |
| 15:23.36 | Timmeh | well, it is ~12% |
| 15:24.56 | chiel | yea, but if you're already spending like ~250 euros on a cpu |
| 15:25.20 | Timmeh | oh wait, that was actually USD, not EUR |
| 15:25.54 | Timmeh | but it looks like the difference in base speed between 4790 and 4790K will be bigger than between 4770 and 4770K, so there will probably be a bigger price difference as well |
| 15:25.57 | Timmeh | I'd imagine |
| 15:26.01 | Timmeh | base clock speed* that is |
| 15:28.20 | chiel | yea more than likely |
| 15:28.33 | chiel | the thing is, if i'm gonna buy a system now, i want it to last a while |
| 15:28.50 | Timmeh | I think it'll last a while anyway, honestly |
| 15:29.10 | Timmeh | although I'm genuinely surprised my 2007 PC is still doing fine |
| 15:29.52 | Timmeh | Core 2 Duo E6750! |
| 15:30.10 | Timmeh | although running at 3.44 GHz, instead of 2.67 GHz :-P |
| 15:32.21 | Timmeh | what's the current default higher end chipset? |
| 15:32.41 | Timmeh | Z97? or is that the OC version again? |
| 15:32.51 | nebula169 | z is the performance level, yea |
| 15:32.59 | Timmeh | I see Z97 and Z87 |
| 15:33.04 | Timmeh | that's why I'm wondering :-) |
| 15:33.17 | znf | Z97 is the refresh |
| 15:34.50 | chiel | Timmeh: yea of course it'll last a while :) |
| 15:35.01 | chiel | bought my pc when i lived in sweden, so i guess it's about 3 years now, that i've had it |
| 15:36.55 | Timmeh | :-) |
| 15:38.10 | quiescens | push it until it breaks! |
| 15:38.13 | chiel | i'm quite curious about sound comparisons between cases and stuff |
| 15:38.28 | Stanzilla | anyone in here wanna power level my US D3 char? |
| 15:38.41 | chiel | i don't want to D3 period :p |
| 15:40.09 | quiescens | why do you haev to play the US one? |
| 15:41.26 | quiescens | dies. |
| 15:42.00 | Stanzilla | testing the new stuff |
| 15:42.21 | quiescens | o.o |
| 15:42.27 | quiescens | how much quicker is the US one? |
| 15:42.36 | quiescens | are the patch notes even out? |
| 15:43.27 | znf | new stuff? |
| 15:44.17 | znf | Fetish Sycophants Now triggered from hitting enemies (changed from casting physical realm spells); |
| 15:44.18 | znf | uhm |
| 15:44.44 | quiescens | that's kind of fun i guess |
| 15:44.55 | quiescens | you can use whatever spell you want instead of specific spells |
| 15:45.10 | quiescens | stan: i can help a little bit if you really want to for some reason o.o |
| 15:46.57 | Fisker | Hi Stanzilla |
| 15:47.06 | Stanzilla | hi |
| 15:47.13 | Stanzilla | quiescens: 1 day |
| 15:47.37 | quiescens | levelling a whole character to look at the changes 1 day ahead sounds like a lot of effort to go to |
| 15:48.30 | Stanzilla | considering that I can play US when EU is down, too |
| 15:48.36 | Stanzilla | sounds fine to me |
| 15:51.44 | znf | GameTag_Rift - Rift |
| 15:51.44 | znf | GameTag_Bounties - Bounties |
| 15:51.45 | znf | yay |
| 15:52.02 | Megalon | GameTag_AFKinTown - AFK |
| 15:52.47 | Stanzilla | quiescens: so if you have like 30mins of spare time and want to help, I would appreciate it :D |
| 15:52.54 | Stanzilla | only need to get to 60 or so |
| 15:52.59 | Stanzilla | to unlock torment |
| 15:54.14 | quiescens | you have to be 60 to unlock torment? |
| 15:54.20 | Stanzilla | hrm that might not work out in 30min though |
| 15:54.21 | Stanzilla | yeah I think |
| 15:55.16 | chiel | i don't think i even got to 60 my first time round with diablo |
| 15:55.23 | chiel | think i only played through the first difficulty level |
| 15:55.30 | quiescens | i can if you want |
| 15:55.32 | chiel | arrived at the first city and was like "aahhhhh i cba" |
| 15:56.11 | Stanzilla | quiescens: cool, what's your btag? and I'll just finish this quest for the TP then |
| 15:57.30 | quiescens | quiescens#6962 |
| 15:57.55 | quiescens | probably |
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| 16:11.07 | Stanzilla | aww Torhal is my friend on US, too <3 |
| 16:11.37 | Megalon | what a sl... |
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| 16:12.59 | chiel | right i'm off home, later |
| 16:13.28 | Stanzilla | znf: http://www.diablofans.com/blizz-tracker/topic/54248-patch-2-0-5-now-live |
| 16:46.54 | znf | Increased the radius of "Strength in Numbers" (multiplayer buff) from 100 to 200 yards |
| 16:46.55 | znf | oh yay |
| 16:50.55 | znf | This change will affect existing Legendary Mojos |
| 16:50.56 | znf | \o/ |
| 16:52.11 | znf | meh, nothing about mob density in rifts |
| 16:52.51 | haste | znf: cake looks odd while in the oven! |
| 16:53.06 | znf | haste, yes it does |
| 16:53.33 | haste | had too use a smaller springform as well |
| 16:53.39 | haste | so probably have to have it in there slightly longer |
| 16:54.08 | znf | you did the whole water thing, right? |
| 16:54.12 | haste | yeah |
| 16:54.18 | haste | which is why I'm using a smaller springform :P |
| 16:54.28 | haste | didn't have a large enough container for the 20cm one |
| 16:54.38 | haste | also sous videing some pork chops! |
| 16:54.39 | znf | I just put it in a huge pan |
| 16:54.56 | haste | didn't have a deep enough pan |
| 16:55.10 | znf | erm |
| 16:55.11 | znf | I mean a tray |
| 16:55.18 | znf | I had a big round oven tray |
| 16:55.29 | znf | that was almost as high as the actual form I used |
| 16:55.29 | haste | I don't have any super deep trays |
| 16:55.33 | haste | except the one I'm using :D |
| 16:55.47 | haste | most are like 2cm or so high |
| 16:55.49 | haste | maaaybe 2.5 |
| 17:01.05 | Gnarfoz | how you sous vide'ing them stuffs? |
| 17:01.11 | Gnarfoz | do you have one of those fancy cookers? |
| 17:02.38 | haste | I abuse a Sansaire for it |
| 17:02.52 | haste | works fairly well, better than the first anova |
| 17:03.04 | haste | curious how the next one will turn out tho' |
| 17:03.21 | znf | Woah |
| 17:03.32 | znf | Nevr knew about LED technology for printing |
| 17:04.10 | nevcairiel | its like a laser printer with a LED as the light emitting part, not so special |
| 17:04.20 | znf | still, never knew about them |
| 17:05.28 | nevcairiel | seems mostly used in those big ass office printers |
| 17:07.46 | znf | Stanzilla, It is no longer possible for the same affix to be randomly selected as the replacement for both of your new rolls |
| 17:07.50 | znf | I have mixed feelings about this. |
| 17:08.36 | znf | But this, I love: When Enchanting an item, the original affix will now be forced into the pool of possible replacement affixes |
| 17:09.06 | nevcairiel | so when you re-roll you get new stats, seems useful |
| 17:10.21 | znf | it seems useful, except when you want 50% crit damage, and the last succesful one you had was at 40% :P |
| 17:10.46 | znf | or, you want 6%, but you're stuck at 4.5% :P |
| 17:11.13 | nevcairiel | the other case if random other crap stats coming up repeatedly is more common though |
| 17:11.37 | znf | I hope that original affix thing means that you can re-roll that "special" legendary proc into a higher % |
| 17:22.28 | quiescens | o.o |
| 17:22.43 | quiescens | someone was saying they were getting off class skills from the enchanter |
| 17:23.15 | quiescens | gasp, gold find is multiplicative |
| 17:37.05 | Stanzilla | quiescens: thanks again |
| 17:37.10 | Stanzilla | also they did a lot of stuff from my post |
| 17:37.22 | quiescens | Weapon damage increased from 24% to 580% per second |
| 17:37.23 | quiescens | lol |
| 17:37.27 | quiescens | that's quite a change |
| 17:38.20 | quiescens | they did the whole "dot no longer crits but gets the damage bonus averaged out" thing to a lot of the bigger dots |
| 17:39.27 | quiescens | spirit walk can walk through wallers \o/ |
| 17:40.36 | quiescens | teleport down to 11 seconds is fun |
| 17:43.06 | Gnarfoz | Wildstar'ers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbItL4qcugk |
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| 17:56.42 | pompy | http://www.diablofans.com/news/48062-reaper-of-soulstm-coming-to-console-august-19 heh the "official forums" link is clearly pointing to the wrong page! |
| 17:57.30 | znf | Torhal, http://i.imgur.com/yPlWzXq.png |
| 17:57.51 | znf | Torhal, seems to be happening if I quickly hover the ldb item after login |
| 17:58.57 | Torhal | znf: Then don't do that. |
| 17:59.09 | znf | Torhal, fix that :P |
| 17:59.17 | znf | but do something about the notes :( |
| 17:59.20 | Torhal | Does it persist through the whole session, or does it not happen when you hover a second time? |
| 17:59.43 | Torhal | I'll just delete the fucking thing. |
| 17:59.48 | Torhal | Don't need the hassle. |
| 17:59.49 | Torhal | :D |
| 18:00.31 | quiescens | \o/ |
| 18:00.35 | quiescens | gives torhal a cookie |
| 18:00.36 | Ackis | anyone bored and want to look at http://pastebin.com/HqqBs4v0 and tell me what I've done wrong? |
| 18:01.46 | znf | Torhal, persist |
| 18:01.46 | quiescens | what is it doing or not doing? |
| 18:03.59 | Ackis | quiescens: it's working, I just want to make it "better"... it scans a directory and converts anything that's not mp3 into mp3 |
| 18:07.26 | znf | Ackis, so complex |
| 18:07.42 | znf | for i in (ls -1 | grep -v mp3); ... |
| 18:07.43 | znf | :D |
| 18:11.33 | quiescens | iuno |
| 18:11.40 | quiescens | i'm asleep o.o |
| 18:12.02 | quiescens | i kind of sort of feel like if you are randomly calling perl in a shell script, you may as well have used perl in the first place |
| 18:12.18 | quiescens | lol |
| 18:12.24 | Ackis | the perl thing isn't needed, I just threw it in for lulz and debugging right now |
| 18:12.41 | Ackis | it just shows which file types are in a directory structure |
| 18:14.18 | quiescens | if it works why do you need to change it ): |
| 18:15.10 | quiescens | having the same stuff repeated a lot is probably technically bad for maintenance but does it realllly matter |
| 18:15.31 | quiescens | if all else fails, blame znf |
| 18:17.56 | znf | or you could even write a function |
| 18:18.02 | znf | and call with arguments :P |
| 18:40.10 | Stanzilla | Torhal: can you inv me to the curse clan in d3? |
| 18:40.15 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: like the n811 model? |
| 18:40.39 | nevcairiel | didnt look yet |
| 18:40.43 | Torhal | Stanzilla: I'm rather fond of my extremities; I'd rather keep them. |
| 18:40.58 | Stanzilla | Torhal: the what now |
| 18:41.25 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla: in general it seems like the closest to the original that i've seen so far |
| 18:41.37 | nevcairiel | I just hope my druid is still cute |
| 18:41.51 | Stanzilla | yup |
| 18:41.53 | Stanzilla | looks good |
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| 18:43.42 | Stanzilla | Torhal: or are you at work atm? |
| 18:44.01 | Torhal | I am. |
| 18:44.54 | Gnarfoz | that's just, like, your opinion, man |
| 18:46.11 | Stanzilla | Torhal: ok, :( |
| 18:46.42 | Torhal | superglues Gnarfoz to Stanzilla. |
| 18:46.49 | Gnarfoz | kinky |
| 18:47.17 | znf | heh https://www.facebook.com/paz/photos/a.10150252189732744.372220.184431752743/10152391176062744/?type=1&theater |
| 18:51.35 | Gnarfoz | what the *fuck* chrome |
| 18:51.48 | Gnarfoz | y u randomly launch a new window in win 8 mode |
| 18:53.04 | Stanzilla | 33 windows updates |
| 18:53.05 | Stanzilla | jeez |
| 18:53.39 | Stanzilla | 1gb |
| 18:53.40 | Stanzilla | lol |
| 19:05.21 | Funkeh` | 13 |
| 19:05.23 | Funkeh` | scrub |
| 19:15.04 | Stanzilla | Funkeh`: no ms office installed? |
| 19:15.20 | Funkeh` | LO does me fine |
| 19:16.06 | znf | I tried Libre on a older PC |
| 19:16.12 | znf | it absolutely murdered it |
| 19:16.18 | znf | 100% CPU usage while scrolling a document :-| |
| 19:16.32 | Gnarfoz | poor stan |
| 19:16.35 | Gnarfoz | I get just 1 update |
| 19:17.03 | Gnarfoz | hm, and it's Windows Defender, so I guess fucking staged rollouts |
| 19:17.14 | Funkeh` | znf, wtf? |
| 19:17.34 | znf | yeah, it was unusable on that old crap running Windows XP :( |
| 19:18.03 | Funkeh` | you sure it wasn't some anti virus being stupid |
| 19:18.18 | znf | yup, pretty sure |
| 19:18.44 | znf | but, like I said, old crap pc; new CPUs are ok with it |
| 19:19.09 | Funkeh` | LO isn't exactly heavy |
| 19:19.10 | Gnarfoz | heh, after installing windows defender update, now I get 14 important and 1 optional |
| 19:29.22 | Sinaloit | does debugprofilestop() return something other than os.clock? |
| 19:31.08 | Gnarfoz | the only thing about debugprofileanything I recall is that you shouldn't use it? (or was that start) |
| 19:34.48 | Funkeh` | that was start |
| 19:34.53 | Funkeh` | stop is fine |
| 19:38.53 | Sinaloit | does it just give you os.clock or something else? |
| 19:45.01 | Funkeh` | it's a "more accurate" version of GetTime() |
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| 19:45.53 | Sinaloit | hrm okay thanks |
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| 20:09.45 | Stanzilla | http://blogs.windows.com/windows/b/windowsexperience/archive/2014/05/13/windows-store-refresh-makes-it-easier-to-find-apps.aspx |
| 20:09.46 | Stanzilla | uh |
| 20:09.51 | Stanzilla | now less of a piece of crap |
| 20:09.57 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/ddw5rfM.png <-- this is weird |
| 20:23.39 | znf | Seems that userscripts.org is dead |
| 20:26.20 | Megalon | userscripts.org:8080 is not |
| 20:31.27 | znf | why is there a :8080? O.O |
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| 20:49.56 | haste | znf: cake was awesome and heavy as shit with 44% :P |
| 20:50.13 | haste | four of us managed to finish half of it before surrendering |
| 20:50.37 | haste | really nice with red raspberry |
| 20:51.00 | znf | heavy as in stomach-heavy? :) |
| 20:51.22 | haste | heavy as in taste :P |
| 20:51.38 | haste | chocolate dying in your mouth is fairly accurate description ^^ |
| 20:51.49 | znf | indeed |
| 20:51.58 | znf | I think I'm going to try dark chocolate with orange next time :D |
| 20:52.08 | haste | oooooo |
| 20:52.25 | haste | has to be the oddest cake I've ever made ^^ |
| 20:52.43 | znf | http://heidi-chocolate.com/ro/chocolate/tablets/dark/Orange/17/ |
| 20:52.46 | haste | took it out of the oven and I was like: this can't be right! it's all... wiggly |
| 20:52.51 | haste | *wobble* |
| 20:53.01 | haste | you and your heidi :D |
| 20:53.53 | Repo | arl: 03resa1983 07master * 2.6.2-2-g612a0c2 Database/Recipes/Jewelcrafting.lua: [+1 commit] Ticket 1614 |
| 20:55.59 | znf | well, local brand, my favorite :P |
| 21:00.29 | Repo | arl: 03resa1983 07master * 2.6.2-3-ge7b6095 Database/Recipes/Tailoring.lua: [+1 commit] Ticket 1615 |
| 21:07.06 | znf | haste, or maybe cranberry ^^ http://heidi-chocolate.com/en/chocolate/tablets/dark/Cranberry/20/ |
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| 21:13.40 | Repo | arl: 03resa1983 07master * 2.6.2-4-gf247ea2 Docs/CHANGES.txt: [+1 commit] Update Changes doc |
| 21:18.58 | Repo | big-wigs: 03funkydude * r11764 SiegeOfOrgrimmar/SiegecrafterBlackfuse.lua: |
| 21:18.58 | Repo | SiegecrafterBlackfuse: Add UnitIsPlayer check for electrostatic charge warning, broken by showing 1 stack players last commit. |
| 21:24.22 | haste | znf: hmm, not so sure about cranberries |
| 21:24.46 | haste | znf: probably depends on the sugar levels of the chocolate :D |
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| 21:27.10 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Funkeh`] by ChanServ |
| 21:27.27 | Funkeh` | I like how there's an optional update that's 97mb, wtf |
| 21:30.29 | Stanzilla | this one? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2958262 |
| 21:32.21 | Funkeh` | https://support.microsoft.com/kb/2955164 |
| 21:32.53 | Funkeh` | and what do you know, another reboot |
| 21:33.12 | Gnarfoz | why did you not install the optional one straight away |
| 21:33.15 | Gnarfoz | >_> |
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| 21:37.34 | Funkeh` | Gnarfoz, reasons |
| 21:37.41 | Gnarfoz | ok! |
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| 21:48.33 | Stanzilla | Funkeh` can be a retard sometimes |
| 21:48.35 | Stanzilla | but that is ok |
| 21:49.02 | Funkeh` | say what |
| 21:49.39 | Gnarfoz | it's ok, he said |
| 21:49.40 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 22:01.14 | Stanzilla | yeah don't feel bad now, Funkeh` |
| 22:02.19 | Funkeh` | Im feeling bad for you |
| 22:03.59 | Stanzilla | Funkeh`: why? |
| 22:04.17 | Funkeh` | was trying not to be mean, but you're one to talk about being a retard |
| 22:04.44 | Megalon | Stanzilla is not retard |
| 22:04.56 | Megalon | it's just a bit challenging for him to tie his shoelaces |
| 22:06.47 | Stanzilla | :( so mean |
| 22:10.11 | nevcairiel | hrm, KB2920189 fails on my server, oh well |
| 22:11.05 | haste | probably not important nevcairiel ! |
| 22:11.07 | nevcairiel | hm supposedly its only for server 2012, but why does it offer it to 2012r2 then for me o.o |
| 22:11.36 | haste | r2 is in the list |
| 22:11.41 | haste | http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2920189 |
| 22:12.27 | nevcairiel | some uefi shit again, it probably can't access the efi boot partition again, i had that with another update before |
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| 22:18.07 | znf | Oh. |
| 22:18.16 | znf | Hi there, Moto E |
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| 22:26.25 | Stanzilla | you know what sucks? |
| 22:26.40 | Stanzilla | diarrhea |
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| 22:59.46 | MysticalOS | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/12674209697?page=1#2 kills me |
| 23:00.12 | MysticalOS | so glad I'm not doing amber shaper anymore |
| 23:01.19 | Stanzilla | meh |
| 23:01.25 | Stanzilla | never used such stuff |
| 23:05.33 | MysticalOS | tidyplates does |
| 23:05.42 | MysticalOS | I better get on ptr and see how this affects nameplate addons |
| 23:06.31 | Gnarfoz | *tidyplates can |
| 23:07.28 | MysticalOS | also, stupid irc client |
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| 23:12.44 | Stanzilla | Kesava probably wants to know that, too |
| 23:13.20 | Kesava | doesn't affect me at all |
| 23:13.39 | Stanzilla | good! |
| 23:14.12 | Kesava | oh actually it breaks the automatic showing/hiding on combat |
| 23:14.16 | Kesava | oh well |
| 23:14.41 | Kesava | maybe they'll you know |
| 23:14.43 | Kesava | fix nameplates. |
| 23:14.48 | Kesava | because they're terrible. |
| 23:15.02 | Stanzilla | that's what I had in mind |
| 23:15.06 | Stanzilla | and why I pinged you :D |
| 23:15.22 | MysticalOS | ^ |
| 23:15.30 | MysticalOS | automatic showing/hiding in combat is exactly what I was doing |
| 23:15.53 | MysticalOS | specific to a boss though, not all fights |
| 23:17.46 | MysticalOS | This is Torhal's fault. and Kaelten. :P |
| 23:19.07 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 23:19.12 | Stanzilla | damn them for reporting that addon |
| 23:19.14 | Stanzilla | I approved it! |
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| 23:43.05 | Repo | arl: 03Torhal 07master * 2.6.2-5-g24e9747 Interface/List.lua: [+1 commit] Minor cleanup. |
| 23:44.00 | Repo | arl: 03Torhal 042.6.3 * 71c798e /: [new tag] |
