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| 00:40.06 | znf | Torhal, things I want |
| 00:40.24 | znf | 1. hide "friends" from the LDB thingie, completely. I have no friends. |
| 00:40.30 | znf | 2. hide the "real id" and "guild" text |
| 00:40.50 | znf | 3. have both of those numbers need x out of y (5/10) |
| 00:41.22 | nebula169 | znf so needy |
| 00:41.38 | znf | 4. and I'm gonna need the note to be like social-state :P |
| 00:41.50 | Torhal | Fuck off. No Note column. |
| 00:41.57 | znf | oh, ok |
| 00:41.59 | Torhal | :D |
| 00:42.00 | znf | no use then |
| 00:42.19 | znf | 40 people online with both an officer note and a normal guild note is not looking good |
| 00:42.20 | Torhal | Seriously: SocialState is too fucking big. |
| 00:42.30 | Torhal | Yeah, I can see that. |
| 00:42.54 | znf | yeah, but I need both notes :P |
| 00:43.43 | Torhal | I'll work something in. Don't know what, yet, because I don't want the fucking display to take up the entire screen like SocialState did. What I have now is still pretty damn big, even with the not relocation. |
| 00:43.53 | Torhal | s/not/note/ |
| 00:44.23 | znf | I don't mind the space |
| 00:45.55 | znf | I like the rest of what you've done |
| 00:47.23 | znf | what about showing note with keypress? |
| 00:47.32 | znf | a modifier |
| 00:48.09 | Torhal | Was actually thinking mouseover, but that could get tedious. |
| 00:49.00 | Megalon | sets znf's SocialState to 'gypsy' |
| 00:49.19 | znf | Megalon, bitch, please. Gypsies get social help money. |
| 00:50.16 | Megalon | so you are like.. one rung beneath them? |
| 00:54.28 | znf | at this point, pretty much every citizen is beneath them |
| 00:57.33 | Megalon | how do i apply to be gypsy? |
| 00:58.22 | znf | you don't |
| 00:58.26 | znf | you get born like that |
| 00:59.13 | Megalon | damn thought if i took a car that wouldn't be roadlegal here, cramed more trash in the trunk and on the roof than possible and got 8 relatives inside |
| 00:59.25 | Megalon | i could just drive to bromania and be welcomed as one of them |
| 00:59.39 | Megalon | not so bromania after all i guess :< |
| 01:00.34 | znf | What |
| 01:00.46 | znf | What makes a car non-road-legal there? |
| 01:00.57 | Megalon | non-road-legal here |
| 01:01.08 | Megalon | my guess is everything is road legal over there |
| 01:01.15 | znf | not really |
| 01:01.25 | Megalon | not with that attitude |
| 01:02.26 | znf | I'm kind of sad to think that your attitude is how pretty much all westerners see us :-/ |
| 01:02.57 | Repo | frenemy: 03Torhal 07master * 5.4.7.1-2-g3e687ea Frenemy.lua: [+1 commit] Added icons for the level and game columns. |
| 01:03.36 | znf | also, the minute someone sugests doing something about gypsies, we're beeing labeled racists |
| 01:03.57 | Torhal | If anyone has a better suggestion for the Game column's icon than dice, please let me know. |
| 01:04.32 | Torhal | Or a better icon for the Level column than a sword. |
| 01:05.17 | znf | Oh. Heirlooms drop chance gets increased from Garrosh in 6.0 |
| 01:06.17 | znf | and the hc mount is 100% drop until the expansion hits |
| 01:06.18 | znf | nice |
| 01:09.03 | Torhal | znf: HC? |
| 01:09.11 | znf | the garrosh hc mount |
| 01:09.25 | znf | some sort of useless scorpion |
| 01:09.33 | Torhal | Ah |
| 01:15.29 | Repo | frenemy: 03Torhal 07master * 5.4.7.1-3-gd8b312d Frenemy.lua: [+1 commit] Logic fix - the display of online friends was dependent on having online BattleNet friends... Minor miscellaneous cleanups. |
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| 01:19.02 | znf | Torhal, what if you don't have a realid? :D |
| 01:19.14 | Torhal | znf: Hmm? |
| 01:19.33 | znf | what happens if your account doesn't have real id |
| 01:19.47 | Torhal | The sections don't show. |
| 01:19.54 | znf | goes watch a movie |
| 01:19.54 | znf | bye |
| 01:19.59 | Torhal | o.O |
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| 01:25.41 | Megalon | you can watch it with him and cuddle, Torhal |
| 01:26.00 | Torhal | Or I could just shiv you. |
| 01:27.29 | Megalon | i'd still cuddle with you, you are my favourite sociopath, Torhal |
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| 01:47.03 | Repo | compact-runes: 03talryn1 041.3 * c3dd5ef /: [new tag] Tag as 1.3. |
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| 02:15.17 | Sinaloit | what exactly does geterrorhandler return if no-one has set one via seterrorhandler? the error function? print? something else? |
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| 02:35.15 | End | Sinaloit: it always gets set in FrameXML to the _ERRORMESSAGE function |
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| 04:02.09 | Sinaloit | End: ah okay, and _ERRORMESSAGE sends it to ScriptErrorsFrame_OnError if its loaded, which gets some locals then pops a window with the relevant information |
| 04:02.59 | End | sounds about right |
| 04:09.08 | Sinaloit | cool, thanks |
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| 04:42.37 | Stanzilla | znf |
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| 05:02.02 | Repo | e6a4772: List sections can now be collapsed. |
| 05:02.02 | Repo | c06d241: Separated data-generation and display. Tooltip sections will no longer show if their respective lists are empty. |
| 05:02.02 | Repo | 2790e10: Added some DB defaults and enabled LibDBIcon. |
| 05:02.02 | Repo | a89f72a: Re-added LibDataBroker-1.1 to the ToC, so it isn't stripped out in no-lib builds. Because Tekkub. |
| 05:02.35 | Repo | frenemy: 03Torhal 045.4.7.2 * febd729 /: [new tag] |
| 05:07.03 | Torhal | znf: !!! |
| 05:15.36 | Stanzilla | hot, Torhal |
| 05:41.35 | sb | morning |
| 05:46.14 | Repo | drdata-1-0: 03Adirelle 07providers * /: [deleted] |
| 05:46.14 | Repo | drdata-1-0: 03Adirelle 07master * v2.8.6-33-g1a3356e DRData-1.0.lua: [+5 commits] (1 truncated) |
| 05:46.14 | Repo | 1a3356e: Minor version bump. |
| 05:46.16 | Repo | b888305: Merge pull request #2 from Rainrider/hunter |
| 05:46.18 | Repo | cd65c75: Merge pull request #3 from Rainrider/monk |
| 05:46.20 | Repo | 8b3914c: Monk: Added providers and confirmed ids |
| 05:47.30 | sb | Stanzilla: why no wod? |
| 06:03.49 | Stanzilla | sb: what? |
| 06:23.25 | sb | Stanzilla: giev alpha/beta/whatever |
| 06:23.45 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 06:27.45 | sb | Stanzilla: is this openssh vulnerability real or fake? |
| 06:35.09 | Stanzilla | sb: real |
| 06:37.11 | Torhal | Stanzilla: http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/software/3514957/heartbleed-like-bug-in-openssh-dismissed-as-a-hoax/ |
| 06:38.55 | Stanzilla | Torhal: well, "We see no evidence it is real," does not mean it cant be true |
| 06:38.56 | Stanzilla | but ok |
| 06:39.20 | Torhal | Ah |
| 06:39.26 | Torhal | I didn't read the article |
| 06:39.33 | Torhal | I found it on Google! |
| 06:39.37 | Stanzilla | yay google! |
| 06:39.38 | Stanzilla | anyway |
| 06:39.53 | Stanzilla | as long as they don't publish it, we won't know for sure |
| 06:40.08 | Stanzilla | black market has all the shadiest things we might never know about anyway |
| 06:40.40 | Stanzilla | the price is a bit cheap though |
| 06:42.44 | quiescens | o.o |
| 06:44.13 | nebula169 | Stanzilla you have wod alpha? few people in guild had it show up in the launcher awhile ago, but still can't login |
| 06:44.31 | Stanzilla | nebula169: I have it installed but no access |
| 06:44.35 | nebula169 | ah |
| 06:44.36 | Stanzilla | but everyone can install it |
| 06:44.53 | Stanzilla | installers are public |
| 06:45.08 | quiescens | gasp |
| 06:45.09 | nebula169 | yea, doesn't interest me until i can play |
| 06:45.23 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 06:45.43 | nebula169 | the framexml export stuff still doesn't work, yea? |
| 06:46.10 | Stanzilla | should |
| 06:46.15 | Stanzilla | kd3 is sending out mails everytime |
| 06:48.35 | nebula169 | i guess i got pruned off list >.> |
| 06:48.39 | nebula169 | http://wowpedia.org/Patch_6.0.1/API_changes doesn't have much |
| 06:53.47 | Stanzilla | he deleted everyone from the list who did not reply to one of them, a few months back |
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| 07:03.51 | Torhal | baleets Stanzilla. |
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| 07:16.31 | Stanzilla | welcome to the monstercat podcast, Torhal |
| 07:17.02 | Adirelle[work] | what ? |
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| 07:18.33 | Repo | b2c425c: Added right-click Dropdown menus. |
| 07:18.33 | Repo | 0c319c3: Set the tooltip AutoHideDelay and Scale based on default DB values. |
| 07:18.50 | Repo | frenemy: 03Torhal 045.4.7.3 * b48a22f /: [new tag] |
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| 07:37.40 | Torhal | znf: No notes changes yet, but it's interactive now. |
| 07:40.01 | Repo | compact-runes: 03talryn1 07master * 1.3-1-geed752d /: [+1 commit] Empty update to force rebuild. |
| 08:07.30 | Stanzilla | sb Gnarfoz small hangouts update today, no changelog yet |
| 08:09.33 | Gnarfoz | yeah, already got it |
| 08:09.45 | Gnarfoz | probably some spy feature was broken, gotta fix quickly |
| 08:10.05 | Stanzilla | much tin foil hat |
| 08:10.05 | Stanzilla | wow |
| 08:11.26 | Gnarfoz | such nsa |
| 08:13.12 | Fisker | hey Stanzilla and Gnarfoz but not Torhal |
| 08:13.18 | Stanzilla | hey |
| 08:13.52 | Torhal | blames Fisker for the collapse of the world economy. |
| 08:15.06 | Gnarfoz | go to sleep |
| 08:15.36 | Torhal | I was about to, Gnarfoz, but Fisker didn't "hey" me. |
| 08:15.45 | Gnarfoz | dat Fisker |
| 08:16.59 | Fisker | :( |
| 08:17.03 | Fisker | The price was too great |
| 08:17.06 | Fisker | I'm sorry Torhal |
| 08:17.09 | Fisker | hey Torhal |
| 08:17.15 | Fisker | please sleep |
| 08:17.32 | Stanzilla | will the real, slim, Torhal please stand up |
| 08:17.55 | Gnarfoz | Torhal very slim |
| 08:18.11 | Stanzilla | did he get slim, fast? |
| 08:18.28 | Gnarfoz | I think it was a lifetime effort |
| 08:18.44 | Gnarfoz | he's up against all the nom of America |
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| 08:25.41 | Stanzilla | hey Fisker |
| 08:25.56 | Fisker | hey Stanzilla |
| 08:26.12 | Stanzilla | welcome to the monstercat podcast |
| 08:30.27 | Fisker | why? |
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| 09:26.31 | Stanzilla | because it is awesome |
| 09:35.29 | quiescens | moo? |
| 09:36.41 | Stanzilla | nope, moo is not awesome |
| 09:38.01 | quiescens | ): |
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| 10:46.27 | Stanzilla | the amount of chicken McNuggets was too damn high |
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| 10:52.24 | sb | Stanzilla: *jelly* :< |
| 10:52.44 | sb | btw, don't buy 'grill maultaschen'... *sigh* |
| 10:53.47 | Stanzilla | that already sounds weird :D |
| 10:56.02 | Funkeh` | grilled mustaches? |
| 10:56.11 | Stanzilla | hah |
| 10:56.42 | Stanzilla | sb: I dont even like normal maultaschen that much |
| 11:01.22 | sb | Stanzilla: http://www.grillers.de |
| 11:02.03 | sb | but since you are deep into fastfood i thought it would be good to mention it :D |
| 11:02.18 | Stanzilla | yeah that looks really disgusting :D |
| 11:04.10 | Stanzilla | and still no new chrome compile today |
| 11:04.12 | Stanzilla | HOW THE FUCK |
| 11:04.18 | Stanzilla | am I supposed to test the change |
| 11:04.32 | sb | gotowork? :( |
| 11:04.54 | Stanzilla | no |
| 11:05.00 | Stanzilla | I need to roll to the post office soon |
| 11:10.01 | wink | swabian to the bone |
| 11:10.17 | wink | Maultaschen vom Grill :P |
| 11:13.15 | Stanzilla | *adds gotham to sickbeard* |
| 11:15.12 | Stanzilla | btw, anyone tested this yet? https://github.com/xPoke/MetroMumble/releases |
| 11:21.17 | Workfoz | nevcairiel: which flexraid setup do you use again? and how do you have it set up exactly? I'm a bit confused that RAID-F seems to be cheaper than tRAID, even though RAID-F seems to have more advantages :D |
| 11:21.39 | Workfoz | (and am I seeing this right, it runs as a service and has a web UI?) |
| 11:33.13 | sb | oh, you are talking about hardware - not gaming :D |
| 11:33.34 | sb | Stanzilla: using ts3, no mumble |
| 11:34.12 | Stanzilla | same here |
| 11:37.53 | Workfoz | that looks quite a bit prettier than the ugliness that is the default mumble client |
| 11:38.09 | Workfoz | the name confused me for a bit, I assumed it was a modern ui app |
| 11:38.36 | Workfoz | not that I've used Mumble in the last 3? or so years for anything ;D |
| 11:39.11 | Stanzilla | last time I used mumble was before TS3 was released |
| 11:52.18 | Dessa | yeah same here |
| 12:05.19 | nevcairiel | Workfoz: yes, it runs as a service with a web configuration. I dunno about the pricing, tRAID is quite a bit newer though, so thats maybe it. tRAID is better suited for more general purpose use-cases, while RAID-F is better for write-once-read-often scenarios like media storage. |
| 12:05.40 | nevcairiel | Workfoz: I don't run a particularly special setup, just 2 protection discs (PPUs) and a whole load of data discs (DRUs) |
| 12:14.52 | nebula169 | Stanzilla: damn, that's an elaborate mumble theme, all i've seen are simple (and usually hideous) color scheme changes |
| 12:15.08 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 12:15.13 | Stanzilla | wish someone would do one for teamspeak |
| 12:15.17 | Stanzilla | those all look hideous |
| 12:33.36 | znf | Yay mumble skin |
| 12:33.47 | znf | Boo the guy who woke me up |
| 12:43.19 | quiescens | go to sleep |
| 13:03.27 | Workfoz | at least ts doesn't look like total ass out of the box |
| 13:03.48 | Workfoz | not too many non-windowsy-elements |
| 13:03.58 | Workfoz | and not like it's made for windows 95 either |
| 13:04.17 | Workfoz | can't speak for user-made themes, never looked at those. I imagine they're horrible. :D |
| 13:04.48 | znf | they're horrible :D |
| 13:04.54 | znf | wishes he would go back to TS3 |
| 13:04.55 | znf | :-( |
| 13:09.52 | Stanzilla | Workfoz: http://static.4players.de/premium/Screenshots/27/ae/92413797-vollbild.jpg |
| 13:09.55 | Stanzilla | *cringe* |
| 13:10.17 | Workfoz | grabs another monitor just for ts |
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| 13:27.41 | Workfoz | nevcairiel: how many disks total? |
| 13:28.02 | Workfoz | time for some ms update tuesday rebooting |
| 13:28.22 | znf | what's that flex raid thingie? |
| 13:28.25 | znf | never heard of it |
| 13:28.42 | Stanzilla | Workfoz: update tuesday is next week :D |
| 13:28.58 | Workfoz | explain the 1.4 GiB of updates I got today, then |
| 13:29.10 | Stanzilla | forgot to do them last month? |
| 13:29.17 | Workfoz | right, so they show up a month later? |
| 13:29.28 | Workfoz | also, explaining to some devs that we don't really need to have a meeting about the ressource requirements for a *widget* we could provide... our traffic numbers are laughably low, it's almost not funny :P |
| 13:29.31 | Stanzilla | probably |
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| 13:29.36 | Workfoz | why would it be next week? |
| 13:29.37 | Stanzilla | there was/is no patch day today |
| 13:29.40 | Workfoz | isn't it first tuesday of the month |
| 13:29.45 | Stanzilla | no, the second |
| 13:29.48 | Workfoz | oh |
| 13:29.58 | Workfoz | (also I explicity checked for updates yesterday and rebooted, nothing came up) |
| 13:30.05 | Workfoz | et voilá, today, 22 updates >_< |
| 13:30.17 | Stanzilla | 1,4GiB sounds like the size of last month |
| 13:30.21 | Stanzilla | including the office updates |
| 13:30.38 | Workfoz | yeah, it was mostly Office |
| 13:30.46 | znf | great idea to restore a 300mb sql over phpmyadmin |
| 13:30.48 | znf | facepalms |
| 13:30.58 | Workfoz | wonder why it didn't show up earlier on its own, then, or when I explicitly checked |
| 13:31.06 | Workfoz | anyway... reboot & "meeting" ^^ |
| 13:31.17 | Workfoz | znf: load data infile! :> works fine over phpmyadmin :D |
| 13:31.30 | znf | huh? |
| 13:34.25 | znf | or I can just mysql db < file.sql from the shell |
| 13:34.30 | znf | works every time |
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| 13:40.40 | znf | or not, I have a syntax error |
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| 13:54.34 | miica | znf: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2008/09/backup-and-restore-mysql-database-using-mysqldump/ |
| 13:54.56 | miica | mysqldump -u root -p[root_password] [database_name] > dumpfilename.sql |
| 13:55.06 | znf | seeing as I have only a .sql file... |
| 13:55.17 | znf | I know how the hell to dump a db... |
| 13:55.29 | miica | well dont look like it |
| 13:55.47 | znf | I'm sorry? |
| 13:56.55 | silentium | that command is for dumping, not for restoring |
| 13:57.11 | znf | I'm very well aware of that :) |
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| 14:06.19 | znf | So... |
| 14:06.23 | znf | Gotham looks interesting |
| 14:06.25 | znf | Except it's on fox :-/ |
| 14:06.50 | Stanzilla | does that matter? |
| 14:06.53 | znf | yeah |
| 14:06.56 | Stanzilla | why |
| 14:06.58 | znf | it will get canceled after 1st season |
| 14:07.04 | Stanzilla | oh |
| 14:11.00 | quiescens | lol |
| 14:13.25 | Trela | Probably after having its airing time slot shuffled around five times with no advertisements notifying people of this fact. |
| 14:13.34 | quiescens | it all comes down to moneys anyway, action, especially sci-fi costs more because of effects, if all they get is viewership similar to what they get for stuff that's cheaper to produce, its not worth it etc |
| 14:14.06 | quiescens | that's why everything is going to end up as reality tv, they won't even have to pay for actors or scriptwriters |
| 14:14.19 | quiescens | so it doesn't matter if people don't like it! |
| 14:15.28 | znf | in this case, it doesn't matter if it produces audiences or not :P |
| 14:15.54 | znf | too expensive to produce, not getting more money from advertisers than a "normal show" --> canceled |
| 14:16.07 | znf | and then we're all, like, "let's pray netflix picks it up" |
| 14:17.47 | Stanzilla | ok znf |
| 14:17.49 | Stanzilla | this might be the hour |
| 14:19.16 | Stanzilla | meh, disappointed, I thought the fonts might look better |
| 14:19.39 | znf | heh |
| 14:20.43 | znf | check if my test is still fucked up :P |
| 14:20.45 | znf | (probably is) |
| 14:20.51 | Stanzilla | nothing changed there |
| 14:21.02 | Stanzilla | also check it yourself, just fire up canary |
| 14:21.39 | znf | I'm not firing up canary :P |
| 14:21.43 | znf | I'm using a symlinked profile |
| 14:21.48 | znf | that would mean to close dev :D |
| 14:23.32 | quiescens | you make things too complicated |
| 14:23.33 | quiescens | o.o |
| 14:23.36 | quiescens | just use a release version~ |
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| 14:27.31 | Stanzilla | that does not help with fixing bugs, quiescens |
| 14:28.27 | quiescens | ): |
| 14:28.45 | quiescens | gives stan a cookie |
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| 14:59.59 | Repo | frenemy: 03Torhal 07master * 5.4.7.3-1-gc5689c5 Frenemy.lua: [+1 commit] Wipe all player lists before updating any of them - fixes bug where the display wasn't correctly updated when the last online friend was removed. |
| 15:05.55 | znf | Stanzilla, I don't like this directwrite font handling |
| 15:06.28 | znf | if we assume that directwrite is correct, then every piece of software before this was wrong? |
| 15:25.40 | quiescens | maybe you're wrong o.o |
| 15:34.02 | Repo | frenemy: 03Torhal 07master * 5.4.7.3-3-g9b91521 Frenemy.lua: [+2 commits] |
| 15:34.02 | Repo | 9b91521: Display appropriate icons for Guild members using the Mobile app. |
| 15:34.02 | Repo | 051974b: Account for Guild members using the Mobile app. |
| 15:35.16 | Torhal | DirectWrites quiescens onto znf's screen. |
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| 15:54.55 | Megalon | and now it's dead |
| 15:57.01 | Workfoz | Torhal: is Frenemy your Broker Friend/Guild/whatever thing? |
| 15:58.00 | Megalon | frenemy is his alter ego when he is wearing stockings and high heels |
| 15:59.10 | Workfoz | I thought that was just his weekend attire |
| 16:00.55 | znf | oh |
| 16:00.59 | znf | Wildstar Open beta on the 8th |
| 16:01.42 | Torhal | Workfoz: Aye |
| 16:02.02 | znf | Oh. |
| 16:02.11 | znf | Maybe now I can get some actual FPS in Wildstar with my new CPU! |
| 16:02.12 | znf | yay |
| 16:02.31 | nevcairiel | dont hope for too much, it runs slow even on good systems :p |
| 16:02.43 | quiescens | up from 1 to 2? |
| 16:03.27 | znf | weren't they supposed to be optimizing it? |
| 16:03.36 | znf | I can see how 40m raids will blow up in their face :-/ |
| 16:04.04 | znf | (and not just for the logistics) |
| 16:04.23 | quiescens | eh |
| 16:04.26 | nevcairiel | that depends what eats all the performance, may not be all the players :p |
| 16:04.31 | quiescens | technically wow managed fine with 40 person raids |
| 16:04.53 | quiescens | it was annoying getting that many people |
| 16:05.04 | quiescens | but it wasn't technically broken |
| 16:05.18 | znf | quiescens, you also didn't have a billion particle effects back then |
| 16:05.23 | znf | Stanzilla, http://i.imgur.com/sBxFbGb.png |
| 16:05.31 | quiescens | you said logistics |
| 16:05.31 | znf | Stanzilla, as awesome as that extension is... wtf? |
| 16:05.43 | znf | quiescens, logistics == getting that many people |
| 16:05.48 | quiescens | yes |
| 16:05.52 | znf | and keeping together a guild of that many people |
| 16:06.08 | znf | we have issues with a 25m guild, having to keep a roster of ~34 |
| 16:06.20 | nevcairiel | we never had such issues in classic really |
| 16:06.22 | znf | I don't want to imagine how a 40m guild would work |
| 16:06.22 | quiescens | i.. |
| 16:06.29 | quiescens | that's what i said right at the start |
| 16:06.34 | quiescens | when you started talking about particle effects o.o |
| 16:06.35 | nevcairiel | we started having issues in BC |
| 16:06.58 | znf | I say it's just how the game changed. Back then you had, like, what? 2-3 guilds per realm? |
| 16:07.10 | nevcairiel | although it was annoying that you couldn't invite your full roster into the raid and then shuffle them around into groups 1-5, but you also had to account for people outside |
| 16:07.11 | quiescens | we had far more than that o.o |
| 16:07.15 | bluspacecow | *noms quiescens* |
| 16:07.22 | quiescens | dies. |
| 16:07.25 | znf | quiescens, raiding guilds? |
| 16:07.30 | quiescens | sure |
| 16:07.40 | znf | you had more than 3 x 40m raiding guilds on your realm? |
| 16:07.48 | quiescens | at various levels of progression, to be sure |
| 16:07.52 | nevcairiel | the number of actual raiding guilds didnt really increase much with the switch to 25 people |
| 16:07.58 | nevcairiel | that came later due to other factors |
| 16:07.59 | quiescens | but easily more than 3 guilds |
| 16:08.49 | znf | my realm as now 40 x 25 heroic guilds |
| 16:08.55 | znf | has* |
| 16:09.04 | znf | (and I'm only counting those who have killed 10/14 HC) |
| 16:09.23 | quiescens | you have 40 guilds for 25? |
| 16:09.28 | znf | yeah... |
| 16:09.40 | quiescens | and are doubting that we had 3 guilds for 40? |
| 16:09.41 | quiescens | o.o |
| 16:09.50 | znf | there were other times... |
| 16:09.54 | nevcairiel | far less people played back in classic, and many many people didn't care for raiding, it became more mainstream only far later |
| 16:10.15 | nevcairiel | in classic progress raiding required real dedication :p |
| 16:10.26 | Megalon | haha yea |
| 16:10.31 | znf | ...which I feel that Wildstar is trying to do |
| 16:10.41 | Megalon | it was awesome to be the second horde raid to kill vaelastrasz on destromath back in the day |
| 16:11.10 | Megalon | that stupid hurensohn |
| 16:11.12 | nevcairiel | remember that this was the time most people failed to 5-man scholomance and used 10 or so instead |
| 16:11.22 | nevcairiel | (when it was still possible) |
| 16:11.53 | znf | Oh. Wildstar's .exe is already tagged as release |
| 16:12.21 | quiescens | because version numbers in .exe files are always meaningful |
| 16:12.23 | quiescens | \o/ |
| 16:12.46 | znf | well, they're confident! :P |
| 16:13.10 | quiescens | i would imagine it only means much if it previously wasn't marked that way |
| 16:13.17 | znf | it wasn't :) |
| 16:13.54 | nevcairiel | they are 3 weeks from release, if the game isn't ready yet, it won't be in time :p |
| 16:14.10 | znf | 3 weeks? |
| 16:14.14 | znf | geez, where the f* did the time go |
| 16:14.14 | quiescens | i don't actually know anything about it o.o |
| 16:14.28 | quiescens | sleep |
| 16:14.30 | nevcairiel | well 3 and a half until pre-order early access starts |
| 16:14.40 | znf | I like the game, but not enough to shell out 15€/month |
| 16:16.57 | znf | (and I don't have enough time to play their in-game-currency for game-time deal type of thing) |
| 16:17.12 | znf | well, technically I have enough time, I just can't be arsed to spend it in a game :D |
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| 16:43.26 | Fisker | Dat gmaps 8 Stanzilla |
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| 17:20.28 | Stanzilla | dat 2h nap Fisker |
| 17:20.38 | Fisker | Owned |
| 17:21.11 | Stanzilla | apk downloading |
| 17:24.54 | Torhal | smothers quiescens in hot sauce. |
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| 17:43.32 | znf | Torhal, definitely an issue http://i.imgur.com/rDEXOTa.jpg |
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| 17:44.16 | Torhal | znf: Hawt. I'll take a gander after I get the sorting code...sorted out. |
| 17:49.47 | quiescens | dies. |
| 17:52.31 | Gnarfoz | gmaps good/ |
| 17:52.32 | Gnarfoz | ? |
| 17:52.41 | Gnarfoz | also, how do you tell desktop Chrome Google Now cards to gtfo |
| 17:52.57 | Gnarfoz | it keeps showing me weather for two locations, one correct, the other seemingly random |
| 17:55.00 | Gnarfoz | also, http://labs.echonest.com/Uploader/ is pretty neat :o |
| 17:55.26 | nevcairiel | if you like 404 pages, sure |
| 17:55.42 | Gnarfoz | ok, their webserver admins are bad, then, but http://labs.echonest.com/Uploader/index.html |
| 17:56.34 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: the other is your work place and it keeps guessing till you tell it where it is |
| 17:56.54 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: nah, it only started when I enabled desktop Google Now |
| 17:57.04 | Gnarfoz | or rather: Google already knows my Home/Work places |
| 17:57.16 | Gnarfoz | unless they store them separately for mobile/web & desktop |
| 17:57.20 | Gnarfoz | (which would be idiotic) |
| 17:57.59 | Gnarfoz | and since I don't see a way to tell it that on the desktop, I'm assuming there is no way? :D |
| 17:58.16 | Stanzilla | in google maps |
| 17:58.22 | Gnarfoz | well, yes. |
| 17:58.33 | Gnarfoz | but that's been set for years and years |
| 17:58.38 | quiescens | o.o |
| 17:58.58 | Stanzilla | then in google now on your phone |
| 17:59.03 | Gnarfoz | that uses the same data |
| 17:59.27 | Stanzilla | then ggwpbbnore |
| 17:59.30 | Gnarfoz | and it regularily tells me stuff like "time to home", "time to work" (via 2 routes, even) |
| 17:59.38 | Gnarfoz | yeah >_> |
| 17:59.46 | Gnarfoz | I think it started when I tethered my phone once |
| 18:00.12 | Gnarfoz | which has very coarse IP geolocation since you're NAT'ed |
| 18:00.32 | Gnarfoz | but I'm not tethered now? :| and haven't been for days :D |
| 18:00.41 | Gnarfoz | it's just confusing to get weather for Lahr, or Berlin randomly |
| 18:01.17 | Stanzilla | Microsoft .NET Framework 4.5.2 offline installer available for download |
| 18:01.17 | Stanzilla | uh |
| 18:01.24 | Stanzilla | what great news |
| 18:02.46 | Stanzilla | so nevcairiel |
| 18:02.50 | Stanzilla | which issue did you solve today |
| 18:05.01 | quiescens | everything |
| 18:05.41 | nevcairiel | i figured out why my streaming application caused the video to get stuck at the end when streaming to chromecast |
| 18:05.54 | Stanzilla | what was teh problem? |
| 18:05.55 | znf | what's the BigWigs command for the lockout check? |
| 18:05.57 | Stanzilla | also new wowhead design :o |
| 18:06.08 | Stanzilla | znf: that's not a thing |
| 18:06.18 | znf | dbm has it afaik :-/ |
| 18:09.32 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla: the last few video frames had invalid timestamps (far into the future, iirc), which caused it to simply wait... :p |
| 18:09.44 | Stanzilla | oh |
| 18:09.45 | Stanzilla | ha |
| 18:10.03 | Stanzilla | are you doing the offical jriver android app there? |
| 18:11.22 | nevcairiel | yes, but it could use a complete makeover, its getting quite dated |
| 18:12.32 | znf | wtf |
| 18:12.36 | znf | some guy left our guild |
| 18:12.40 | znf | and continued with out lockout |
| 18:12.44 | znf | now our lockout is 13/14 HC |
| 18:12.45 | znf | :-| |
| 18:12.52 | quiescens | grats |
| 18:12.56 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 18:13.08 | Stanzilla | haha |
| 18:14.25 | Primer | I don't get it |
| 18:14.30 | Primer | please explain |
| 18:14.56 | quiescens | gives primer a cookie |
| 18:15.22 | Primer | I'm serious |
| 18:16.00 | nevcairiel | so is the cookie |
| 18:16.02 | znf | Primer, you get raid lockouts? |
| 18:16.41 | nevcairiel | guy left for a new guild, new guild killed the old guilds bosses, old guild now can't kill them anymore since they are dead |
| 18:17.06 | nevcairiel | curious that new guild didnt have their own lockout yet though |
| 18:17.23 | znf | thing is... |
| 18:17.29 | znf | Garrosh is not spawned on HC in this lockout |
| 18:17.30 | znf | ??!! |
| 18:17.47 | nevcairiel | maybe its 14/14 |
| 18:17.50 | quiescens | i thought they had changed the way raid timers worked at some point after i stopped playing |
| 18:17.54 | Stanzilla | good luck getting a GM to fix it |
| 18:17.57 | Stanzilla | hint: they won't |
| 18:18.00 | nevcairiel | quiescens: not for heroic |
| 18:18.04 | quiescens | ah |
| 18:18.27 | znf | Stanzilla, well, I'm curious what the fuck happened |
| 18:18.30 | znf | nevcairiel, nah, it's 13/14 |
| 18:18.37 | Primer | ok, it just wasn't clear that it was 12/14 before |
| 18:18.51 | znf | it was 10/14 |
| 18:19.33 | Primer | even worse |
| 18:19.38 | Primer | so just start over :) |
| 18:20.50 | Stanzilla | http://imgur.com/gallery/Fgx0UuC |
| 18:20.58 | Primer | My 10 man can't seem to get together for raids any more. We didn't raid at all last week because one of us (ONE!) had finals |
| 18:21.05 | znf | Primer, we can't really start over... |
| 18:21.09 | Primer | we're only 8/14 |
| 18:21.37 | Primer | of course you can start over! |
| 18:22.03 | znf | not on a tuesday |
| 18:22.08 | znf | we reset on wednesday... |
| 18:22.35 | Primer | so obviously someone already extended the lockout and is locked |
| 18:23.27 | znf | it's a fresh lockout this week |
| 18:23.29 | nevcairiel | hm can one person just extend it for all of you and screw you all over that way? :d |
| 18:23.42 | znf | we farmed this week, so we started a fresh one |
| 18:24.00 | znf | we went 10/14 on Sunday, we were going to continue today |
| 18:24.27 | Primer | ok, wait, so whoever extends it is fucked, right? |
| 18:24.47 | Primer | they get no choice upon entering the instance? They need to notice it's 13/14 before they extend? |
| 18:25.02 | znf | it doesn't matter if you accept or not |
| 18:26.44 | znf | heroic lockouts are not personal |
| 18:27.36 | Primer | I understand |
| 18:27.44 | Primer | but you can still say "no" when you walk in |
| 18:27.49 | znf | it doens't matter... |
| 18:27.54 | Primer | of course it does |
| 18:27.54 | znf | your lockout is fucked |
| 18:27.55 | znf | no |
| 18:27.56 | znf | geez |
| 18:28.00 | znf | let me explain it in simple terms |
| 18:28.04 | Primer | you can always start over |
| 18:28.08 | Primer | today being Tuesday |
| 18:28.11 | znf | yeah, NEXT WEEK |
| 18:28.22 | znf | EU resets on Wednesday |
| 18:28.23 | znf | get it? |
| 18:28.26 | znf | ie: tomorow |
| 18:28.56 | Primer | then no raid for you until tomorrow |
| 18:28.59 | Primer | get over it |
| 18:29.12 | znf | and then we have to start again from 0... and we were going to extend paragons hc... |
| 18:29.20 | Primer | I didn't raid at all last week because of ONE fucking person who couldn't make it |
| 18:29.32 | Primer | boo hoo? |
| 18:29.45 | Primer | surely you can clear a good 9-10 bosses in one night? |
| 18:29.56 | znf | no, we can't |
| 18:30.15 | Primer | my crappy guild clears 8 in one night...and we're 10 man |
| 18:30.49 | Primer | but we also only raid 2 nights a week, 4 hours a night |
| 18:31.41 | znf | yeah, you're 10man; we're 25 and people have been going afk for weeks now |
| 18:32.17 | Primer | I ended up buying WoD and boosting my warlock and pvp'd all weekend |
| 18:34.07 | Primer | He was my old main, and people still call me by his name |
| 18:34.15 | Primer | Barf |
| 18:34.22 | Primer | Short for...? Anyone guess? :) |
| 18:36.00 | Stanzilla | I know it, don't need to guess :p |
| 18:36.15 | Primer | I find myself tasked with migrating our work svn to git |
| 18:36.51 | Primer | I really only want to migrate trunk, but will the history of copy operations from branches be lost if I don't include all the branches? |
| 18:37.06 | Primer | Inquiring minds want to know! |
| 18:37.49 | Primer | znf: I didn't know resets were on Weds on EU, btw. Oddly, resets are on Mondays (my time, US pacific) on Oceanic |
| 18:38.07 | Primer | It's Tuesday their time, since they're 18 hours ahead |
| 18:38.13 | znf | well, we reset tomorow |
| 18:38.59 | quiescens | go to sleep |
| 18:39.15 | Gnarfoz | since "Oceanic" realms don't exist, it kind of makes more sense to think of it in the server's time zone :P |
| 18:39.41 | quiescens | o.o |
| 18:40.04 | Stanzilla | hey Gnarfoz didnt you research dxracer chairs a few years ago? |
| 18:40.19 | Gnarfoz | :o I don't think so, because I don't recall that name |
| 18:40.29 | Gnarfoz | I might have |
| 18:40.38 | Stanzilla | maybe it was chairs in general? |
| 18:40.47 | Primer | Gnarfoz: the reason why we moved there is because we were a late night raiding guild on a dying US pacific server |
| 18:41.05 | Primer | our raid time, 11PM-3AM US pacific, is prime time on Frostmourne Oceanic |
| 18:41.18 | Gnarfoz | it probably was, the one I'm sitting on (which is failing) is from ~summer 2012, I bought it like a week before MoP release |
| 18:41.43 | Primer | but the one thing we didn't count on was daylight savings making our raid go from 4PM-8PM to 5PM-9PM to 6PM-10PM and back and forth |
| 18:41.55 | Gnarfoz | Primer: I have no idea what you're telling me beyond "I'm in a different timezone and don't want to accept that there's only "north american" servers" :D |
| 18:42.09 | Primer | the one nice thing about Frostmourne Oceanic is that it's in LA, where I am, and I get 9ms home/world :) |
| 18:42.20 | Primer | Gnarfoz: Why all the hate? |
| 18:42.24 | Gnarfoz | why hate? |
| 18:42.29 | Gnarfoz | just facts |
| 18:42.40 | Gnarfoz | or did Blizzard launch oceaninc servers and I missed it :o |
| 18:42.43 | Gnarfoz | -n |
| 18:43.16 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: why? :D I think I might need to buy another one soon, but I should try and ask them "wtf, chair ded, plx fix?" first ^^ |
| 18:43.23 | Primer | Gnarfoz: your text has a bit of vemon in it |
| 18:43.37 | Gnarfoz | Primer: not intentionally ^^ maybe a bit of snark ^^ |
| 18:43.48 | Primer | I've not only lived in different time zones, but I've also lived south of the equator |
| 18:44.14 | Primer | Well, it read all "This is 'meruca! My way of the highway!" |
| 18:44.18 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: well I heard a lot about those racer chairs and I need a new one, too |
| 18:44.19 | Primer | as if I was such a person |
| 18:44.26 | Stanzilla | so I kinda remembered somehone researching chairs |
| 18:45.00 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: someone (might even have been me, lol) linked... whatever that hearthstone tournament was advertising |
| 18:45.17 | Stanzilla | so far I've seen http://www.dxracer.net/cat3_dxracer-chairs.html |
| 18:45.17 | Stanzilla | and |
| 18:45.28 | Gnarfoz | they were very... orange |
| 18:45.29 | Stanzilla | http://www.needforseat.de/shop/index.php |
| 18:45.33 | Gnarfoz | yeah, those! |
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| 18:46.16 | Gnarfoz | (aren't timezones longitude based? :p) |
| 18:46.55 | Gnarfoz | Primer: if anything, the opposite -- wouldn't I'd have to be the one saying "'murricaaaa", then? ^^ |
| 18:47.53 | Primer | Gnarfoz: just saying how you made me feel. :( |
| 18:48.25 | Primer | Gnarfoz: I just wanted to illustrate that I'm a worldly person, not a US-centric person |
| 18:48.45 | Gnarfoz | that's great \o/ |
| 18:48.55 | Gnarfoz | oddly, this went in a direction I never intended |
| 18:48.55 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 18:49.57 | Gnarfoz | if anything I was trying to pigeonhole you as a Australo(?)-centric person, but I might actually be totally wrong since I have no idea how timezones are handled on US realms |
| 18:50.29 | Gnarfoz | I just keep seeing posts on forums complaining about "downtime during primetime" and such, as if those servers weren't in the US just as all other NA servers |
| 18:50.43 | Gnarfoz | but... *do* they get any special handling? |
| 18:50.52 | Gnarfoz | or is it just a random label? is it even an offical label? |
| 18:50.58 | Gnarfoz | ("it" being "Oceanic") |
| 18:51.22 | Gnarfoz | literally the first patch of WoW has a patch note saying "removed time zone tabs from the server list, all servers in one list now" |
| 18:52.06 | Gnarfoz | so I always thought it was just makebelief by people flocking to a certain server |
| 18:52.25 | Primer | the only difference is that Oceanic realms have their world boss/pvp resets on US time |
| 18:52.38 | Primer | maintenance happens on US time, so that works well for me |
| 18:52.56 | Gnarfoz | like the "russian" servers in eu WoW before the eu/ru split (which were the reason for the split), where there was like 80%+ russian population, but they were really english EU realms just as any other realm |
| 18:53.08 | Gnarfoz | Primer: difference? to what? |
| 18:53.31 | Gnarfoz | how is that a difference, if anything, it proves my point: they're US/NA servers, not "Oceanic" servers :o |
| 18:53.41 | Gnarfoz | unless you typoed that? :D |
| 18:54.15 | Primer | no, you're right...it'd be a difference to them, not me |
| 18:54.22 | Primer | but...no |
| 18:54.40 | Primer | on US realms, raid lockouts and world bosses and pvp resets all happen at the same day/time |
| 18:54.51 | Primer | for example, I did Celestials yesterday on FM |
| 18:54.52 | znf | on EU, too... |
| 18:55.06 | Primer | I can only do Celestials on US Gorgonnash today |
| 18:55.06 | Gnarfoz | yeah, that's how I know it |
| 18:55.20 | Gnarfoz | saywhat? |
| 18:55.57 | Gnarfoz | I'm not sure I understand, honestly |
| 18:56.10 | Gnarfoz | is Gorgonnash another Oceanic realm? |
| 18:56.42 | znf | US realms are weird |
| 18:56.45 | znf | with their timezones |
| 18:57.09 | Gnarfoz | I always thought those were just indicators as to their *physical* location |
| 18:57.34 | Gnarfoz | so as to put people who are in the geographic region of, say, EST, play on realms that are hosted close to there |
| 18:57.51 | Gnarfoz | and thought that *all* US resets happen at Blizzard time (i.e. PST/PDT) |
| 18:58.12 | Gnarfoz | meaning that resets happen at different *local* times on the west, east, and Australian (;)) coasts |
| 18:59.10 | Gnarfoz | ("US resets" meaning "resets on NA servers, whatever timezone they might be described as, including 'Oceanic'") |
| 19:00.47 | Primer | Gnarfoz: well, US Gorgonnash, my first realm, was US pacific time zone, located in Texas. It then moved to Chicago. Then it was merged with other realms and is now Eastern time |
| 19:00.49 | znf | meh, I'm not excited about Mr. Robot :( |
| 19:01.12 | Primer | the realm physically moved to Chicago, that is, but maintained the US pacific time zone |
| 19:01.34 | Gnarfoz | and the question is: is that a label that denotes anything beyond the location thing I just described? |
| 19:01.46 | Gnarfoz | or does it affect anything else, most obvious of all: resets? |
| 19:01.57 | Gnarfoz | i.e. are the resets on Gorgonnash at 8 am PDT? |
| 19:02.07 | Primer | I'm sure all US realms are on the same reset schedule, that being US pacific time |
| 19:02.11 | Gnarfoz | wait, stupid question, they would be in any case, since that's Blizzard time |
| 19:02.15 | Gnarfoz | yep |
| 19:02.15 | Primer | since blizz is located here |
| 19:02.51 | Gnarfoz | so, that leaves me at the beginning: what's special about Oceanic realms except that there's a high quantity of people from Oceania playing on them? |
| 19:03.04 | Primer | but since Oceanic realms are in the US too, their schedule is the same as US schedule as far as downtime for maintenance |
| 19:03.24 | Primer | Their "realm time" is set to something in AU |
| 19:03.28 | Primer | that's all |
| 19:03.30 | znf | Ah |
| 19:03.31 | Gnarfoz | ah |
| 19:03.34 | Gnarfoz | there it is |
| 19:03.42 | znf | so instead of resetting at 4am, they reset, when? |
| 19:03.43 | Primer | and their world/pvp resets happen earlier |
| 19:03.45 | znf | (server time) |
| 19:03.52 | Gnarfoz | they should reset at 8 am PST/PDT |
| 19:03.55 | Primer | right now they're 18 hours ahead of PST |
| 19:04.02 | Gnarfoz | or well, whatever the US reset time is |
| 19:04.20 | Primer | so right now it's 6AM Weds there |
| 19:04.22 | Gnarfoz | (it's 8 am Paris time for EU WoW) |
| 19:05.12 | Gnarfoz | you mean their PVP week resets at a different time than their raid week? |
| 19:05.18 | Primer | yes |
| 19:05.21 | Primer | one day earlier |
| 19:05.32 | Gnarfoz | yeah, because of the time difference, I get it |
| 19:05.44 | Gnarfoz | apparently because that's coupled to server time |
| 19:05.54 | Primer | but raid lockouts are tied to US time |
| 19:05.58 | Gnarfoz | yeah |
| 19:06.33 | Primer | but yeah, maintenance would have started last night for them at 11PM and ended at 5AM their time |
| 19:06.44 | Primer | presuming all reams are up |
| 19:07.00 | Gnarfoz | it's not obvious to (at least me, and probably all US pacific time zone people), because server time always matches raid lockout reset time |
| 19:07.31 | Gnarfoz | hence the maybe obnoxious sounding questions |
| 19:07.49 | Gnarfoz | "me" meaning that I live in the same timezone as EU resets are based upon |
| 19:08.43 | Primer | and I the US ones! |
| 19:08.50 | Primer | ^5s Gnarfoz |
| 19:09.17 | znf | I'm annoyed when blue tweets reply questions which have already been answered :( |
| 19:20.13 | znf | Torhal, no GMOTD in the tooltip?! what is this?! |
| 19:20.39 | Torhal | znf: It's a from-scratch AddOn. I'm still writing it. What is this? |
| 19:20.52 | znf | you've been writing it for days now! :( |
| 19:21.22 | Torhal | I started Sunday. Yesterday was Monday, and I worked all day. |
| 19:21.37 | Torhal | Plus, I'm not just slapping this shit together. |
| 19:22.02 | znf | copy/paste some parts! :D |
| 19:22.13 | Torhal | Sorry; no. |
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| 19:28.26 | Stanzilla | just no |
| 19:29.02 | znf | much fun this week |
| 19:29.07 | znf | we should just f* disband :-/ |
| 19:29.28 | Stanzilla | I need to go to sleep at 11pm today |
| 19:29.30 | Stanzilla | :( |
| 19:29.37 | nevcairiel | why |
| 19:29.49 | Stanzilla | test at the hospital tomorrow |
| 19:29.52 | znf | 11pm? |
| 19:29.53 | znf | geez |
| 19:29.57 | znf | how are you going to do that? |
| 19:30.01 | Stanzilla | and I need to take a pill at 11 |
| 19:30.02 | Stanzilla | then sleep |
| 19:30.18 | Stanzilla | znf: taking another pill that makes me sleep probably |
| 19:30.21 | znf | heh |
| 19:30.36 | znf | sadly, actual sleeping pills are prescription only :( |
| 19:30.44 | znf | and those that aren't... are crap :( |
| 19:30.47 | znf | I know I checked.. |
| 19:31.07 | Stanzilla | only natural stuff is prescription free |
| 19:31.09 | Stanzilla | like baldrian |
| 19:31.20 | Stanzilla | no idea about the actualy name in english |
| 19:31.32 | Stanzilla | valerian! |
| 19:31.41 | znf | yeah, silly herbal stuff |
| 19:31.55 | znf | sedatif pc is popular here |
| 19:31.56 | Stanzilla | that always did nothing for me |
| 19:32.41 | znf | yeah, those things don't do anything :( |
| 19:32.56 | znf | shame some suiciders had to ruin it for everyone! :( |
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| 19:33.03 | Gnarfoz | riiight. |
| 19:33.09 | Gnarfoz | also, murderers. |
| 19:33.35 | nevcairiel | never took any sleeping pills |
| 19:33.52 | znf | Gnarfoz, that too! |
| 19:34.06 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: lucky you that you don't need them! |
| 19:34.34 | Stanzilla | before I had mine it took me up to 5 hours to sleep |
| 19:34.34 | Gnarfoz | plus probably damaging side-effects, also possibly addictive |
| 19:34.35 | Gnarfoz | etc |
| 19:34.36 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 19:34.39 | Stanzilla | and that is really being in bed |
| 19:34.41 | Stanzilla | and not being able to sleep |
| 19:34.53 | znf | my "biological" clock is so fucked up |
| 19:35.02 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla: you're just a broken sob |
| 19:35.03 | znf | even if I somehow manage to go to bed at 11pm and wake up at 8am |
| 19:35.09 | Stanzilla | that indeed |
| 19:35.12 | znf | by 1pm I'm already falling asleep |
| 19:35.18 | znf | I'm like, barely keeping myself awake |
| 19:35.23 | Gnarfoz | I should look into doing something about my "no internal clock" sleep "rhythm"... I'll probably not live to too old an age if I don't >_> |
| 19:35.26 | Stanzilla | not sure about the sob part |
| 19:35.30 | Stanzilla | but broken, yes! |
| 19:36.48 | Stanzilla | this irc channel probably just has become what is the facebook wall for other people |
| 19:37.03 | Stanzilla | my place to spout to |
| 19:37.28 | znf | you only have one?! |
| 19:37.31 | znf | I have like 6! |
| 19:38.30 | Stanzilla | I used to have individuals to talk to but individuals always have the tendency to disappoint :D |
| 19:39.01 | Stanzilla | also I just know nevcairiel enjoys my stories |
| 19:39.16 | nevcairiel | why would i enjoy your constant whining |
| 19:39.25 | Stanzilla | :D |
| 19:39.27 | znf | you're a good listener |
| 19:40.47 | Kalroth | rude |
| 19:40.48 | znf | also, you keep insulting/calling us whiners etc. at the end; that means you care and you read it! |
| 19:41.21 | nevcairiel | its not an insult, its just a fact |
| 19:41.28 | znf | still, you read it! |
| 19:41.31 | znf | that's what counts |
| 19:42.32 | nevcairiel | i should write a new wow addon some day |
| 19:42.56 | Stanzilla | need more monies? |
| 19:43.25 | znf | I'm curious as to what nevcairiel gets in points / day |
| 19:43.32 | nevcairiel | could always use more moneys |
| 19:43.52 | nevcairiel | i used to get like 3 times as much, i wonder if the amount of money in the pool just went down or way more people take part in it now |
| 19:44.13 | znf | I get almost 1 point per day! |
| 19:44.18 | Stanzilla | amazing! |
| 19:44.33 | Stanzilla | I just showed my brother how I can delete all his phone contacts even if it is locked |
| 19:44.39 | Stanzilla | he was very confused |
| 19:44.45 | znf | You were awarded 0.72 points for your project(s) |
| 19:45.07 | nevcairiel | i get 330 or so these days |
| 19:45.11 | znf | o.o |
| 19:45.29 | znf | well, I have enough points for a 20GBP gift card! |
| 19:45.29 | nevcairiel | used to get close to 1000 in the top times |
| 19:45.39 | znf | so that's like $50/day |
| 19:45.53 | znf | nnot bad |
| 19:47.16 | Stanzilla | I guess just too many people use elvui these days |
| 19:47.22 | Stanzilla | so usage from other addons go down |
| 19:48.29 | znf | that's sad :( |
| 19:48.39 | znf | most people in my guild barely run with a few addons |
| 19:48.44 | znf | they're weirdos |
| 19:48.58 | znf | "oh, just elvui and bigwigs" |
| 19:49.20 | Stanzilla | elvui covers all the basic needs |
| 19:49.58 | nevcairiel | i wish people would care that the author is evil |
| 19:50.07 | znf | I feel good when it breaks on patch days |
| 19:50.55 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: evil because it's just stolen code from all addons or why exactly? |
| 19:51.01 | haste | nevcairiel: he did a couple of donations to oUF actually :P |
| 19:51.25 | Stanzilla | haste: how much? |
| 19:51.26 | znf | he did? still evil! |
| 19:51.46 | Stanzilla | I mean, was it like gipsy amount or substantial like it should be |
| 19:51.57 | nevcairiel | mostly evil because he moved to his own website because he couldnt show enough ads and make enough money with hosting on curse |
| 19:52.22 | znf | should be at least 25%! |
| 19:52.41 | haste | znf Stanzilla nevcairiel: no wait, it was tukz who did that |
| 19:52.46 | znf | ah... |
| 19:53.01 | znf | I actually feel sorry that ElvUI is more popular than Tuk :( |
| 19:53.44 | Stanzilla | haste: ok, still, good money or znf-money? |
| 19:54.01 | haste | Stanzilla: total of 40 USD |
| 19:54.07 | Stanzilla | ok that is znf-money |
| 19:54.09 | znf | so, not good money |
| 19:54.32 | haste | a nice gesture regardless of the amount I would say |
| 19:54.44 | znf | a nice gesture would be to set up a fixed % :D |
| 19:54.44 | nevcairiel | gestures dont buy you things |
| 19:55.17 | znf | bring in Semlar to do his weird code obfuscation, code in something that breaks oUF running with ElvUI! |
| 19:55.29 | znf | (yeah, I know you can't do that, I can just dream) |
| 19:55.32 | Stanzilla | pls no Semlar |
| 19:55.33 | haste | ^^ |
| 19:55.35 | Stanzilla | he be da devil |
| 19:57.45 | znf | I just noticed that wowhead changed their layout |
| 19:58.02 | znf | and it's sucky :( I liked the old search page better |
| 19:58.06 | znf | their news section sucks |
| 19:58.32 | Stanzilla | need wowhead comments scraped and displayed on wowdb |
| 20:00.17 | znf | I get the whole news page on front page, but why did they have to break the rest? :( |
| 20:00.44 | znf | and I really don't need "hearthead" in the database menu and all over the damn website |
| 20:00.49 | znf | I don't even like that piece of shit game |
| 20:01.49 | Stanzilla | I added wowhead as a search provider in chrome |
| 20:01.56 | znf | I'm not proud I have this: http://i.imgur.com/un1b7nz.png |
| 20:01.57 | Stanzilla | so I just go wowhead <tab> text |
| 20:02.04 | znf | you had to manually add that...? |
| 20:02.11 | Stanzilla | dont remember |
| 20:02.30 | znf | pretty sure chrome auto-adds them |
| 20:02.46 | Stanzilla | that would be a scary list to look at then |
| 20:02.51 | Stanzilla | all those porn search sites |
| 20:03.37 | znf | I remember a while ago you could set up a form field on your website called "open search" or something like that |
| 20:03.46 | znf | that automatically added it to your browser's short list |
| 20:04.42 | Stanzilla | yeah I know |
| 20:05.01 | znf | (once you used it on the actual website, if I recall corectly) |
| 20:24.27 | znf | uuuh, wow down |
| 20:24.29 | znf | to 7.6 |
| 20:26.54 | Stanzilla | https://cdn.mediacru.sh/0OOFk_EnoPxz.png |
| 20:26.57 | Stanzilla | uwotm8 |
| 20:28.26 | pompy | lol |
| 20:31.30 | znf | Stanzilla, so what is it? :D |
| 20:31.49 | Stanzilla | I won't approve it :D |
| 20:32.07 | Stanzilla | also has no files |
| 20:33.41 | znf | so, which one of you ever tried shooting a gun (at a range) |
| 20:33.51 | znf | (shooting range) |
| 20:35.32 | Stanzilla | only not a range |
| 20:35.52 | Stanzilla | *at |
| 20:35.52 | nevcairiel | I was in the military, does that count |
| 20:36.28 | znf | I was thinking of going to a shooting range |
| 20:36.32 | znf | never fired a gun |
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| 20:45.50 | Gnarfoz | obviously, my plans to use my new-fangled internet with actually acceptable bandwidth to improve my ratio were optimistic: http://i.imgur.com/OIooXMy.png >_< |
| 20:46.17 | Gnarfoz | fuck those 500 and more Mbit/s guys :P |
| 20:47.28 | znf | Ratio: 29.649 Uploaded: 71.75 TB Downloaded: 2.42 TB Active Torrents: Torrents seeding 198 Torrents leeching 0 |
| 20:47.30 | znf | :-" |
| 20:49.22 | Gnarfoz | I should add "the rest" (which is more like "the other 60%") of my finished stuff so I can at least rake in bonus points for sharing old shit; also, more torrents means more chances to maybe seed some |
| 20:49.50 | Neffi | silly Gnarfoz. there is no improving your ratio on private trackers unless you happen to be one of the first 20 people to start using it |
| 20:49.55 | Stanzilla | first time I fired a gun my ears hurt for hours |
| 20:50.18 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: haha, movies *do* give the impression they're just "so-so" loud |
| 20:50.19 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/HZVwrZI.png |
| 20:50.24 | Gnarfoz | whereas they're really OMG FUCK loud |
| 20:50.28 | znf | Ratio: 4.317 UP: 7.247 TB DL: 1.679 TB Active Torrents: 104 0 Bonus: 39,201.5 |
| 20:50.28 | znf | :D |
| 20:50.47 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: yeah, also a difference if you are actually holding it or just standing next to someone holding one |
| 20:51.09 | Gnarfoz | Neffi: meh, not really. unless by "it" you mean "a popular torrent" |
| 20:51.12 | Stanzilla | the knockback is also interesting |
| 20:51.22 | Stanzilla | make sure you hold the gun with 2 hands :D |
| 20:51.29 | znf | even if you're the first leecher on a torrent like Game of Thrones |
| 20:51.29 | Gnarfoz | recoil is not to be underestimated |
| 20:51.43 | Neffi | Maybe. I had a hell of a time trying. I gave up. Usenet + public trackers >>>> dealing with the bullshit rules of private stuff |
| 20:51.55 | znf | if you don't have good peering and bandwidth with the seeder, it's useless :P |
| 20:52.30 | znf | publichd.se for all your needs, really |
| 20:52.35 | Gnarfoz | I have enough buffer to last me quite a while yet, and I prefer the focus on and dedication to quality this particular tracker has |
| 20:52.42 | znf | Gnarfoz, which? |
| 20:52.46 | Gnarfoz | hdbits |
| 20:53.01 | znf | ah, yeah, quite hard to keep a good buffer there |
| 20:53.04 | Stanzilla | is probably the only one in here still using one click hosters with great success, pls no repeat of the discussion of yesterday night with airtonix :( |
| 20:53.22 | znf | one click hosters for video-content? |
| 20:53.23 | znf | wat |
| 20:53.46 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 20:53.46 | Gnarfoz | huge ass torrents, not as huge userbase, more than enough users with ridiculously high bandwidth... it's a rough terrain for people with asymmetric bandwidth :D |
| 20:54.35 | znf | so, what? you download at like 10k/s? |
| 20:54.40 | znf | or you pay premium for every one of them? |
| 20:54.57 | Stanzilla | no I use a service where I pay once and get premium for almost all of them |
| 20:55.15 | znf | weirdo |
| 20:55.18 | znf | paying for warez! |
| 20:55.53 | Stanzilla | https://secure.premiumize.me/?show=about |
| 20:56.24 | Gnarfoz | I've pondered getting a seedbox for a month or two again, but they've really cracked down on those, making sure that the various ratio discounts (like download counts just 50% on internal encodes/full discs) and such don't apply to them, to disincentivize them |
| 20:57.07 | Gnarfoz | also the IRC announce bot has been gone for years now, I built my buffer way back when xirvik launched gbit seedboxes and had a cheap trial month |
| 20:57.59 | Gnarfoz | literally leech, reap buffer, throw away |
| 20:58.23 | Gnarfoz | not really nice, which is why they've taken steps to discourage that kind of behaviour ;p |
| 20:58.31 | znf | I don't care much for movies, myself |
| 20:58.37 | znf | I stopped trying to build a library |
| 20:58.40 | znf | storage aint' cheap, bro :( |
| 20:58.41 | Gnarfoz | I'm a movie nut :| |
| 20:58.51 | znf | (not by romanian living standards!) |
| 20:59.55 | Gnarfoz | I should read the scrollback to see if nev was so kind as to reply to my nagging :p |
| 21:00.49 | Gnarfoz | I guess the only reasonable chance for ratio for me right now is to pick out the "hopefully popular" torrents uploaded by someone with crap upload bandwidth |
| 21:00.52 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
| 21:01.28 | nevcairiel | Most of such sites have people with seed boxes and way too much bandwidth |
| 21:01.32 | Gnarfoz | so the gbit people can't use their advantage as much |
| 21:01.41 | Gnarfoz | see above :) |
| 21:02.46 | Gnarfoz | I wonder if the "ratio capped at 5 for the first 72 hours" actually helps... it probably just spreads the ratio within the seedboxes/gbit people, I doubt it does much for joe blow |
| 21:02.54 | Gnarfoz | but, at least they're trying things ^^ |
| 21:02.56 | nevcairiel | Many sites even stopped using ratio for alternate systems because of such discrepancies |
| 21:04.17 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: did you say anything further about flexraid after 18:00? if no, I don't have to scroll up ;D |
| 21:04.39 | znf | ratio systems made sense when everyone was at the same level... :P |
| 21:05.06 | Gnarfoz | which was... never |
| 21:05.10 | Gnarfoz | q.e.d. :| |
| 21:05.28 | znf | well, it made sense for us in .ro when the torrent movement has gained traction |
| 21:06.41 | Stanzilla | you guys doing flex? |
| 21:06.47 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: did you ask any more questions? No I didn't. |
| 21:06.50 | Gnarfoz | no, the RAID alternative, not wow |
| 21:06.55 | Stanzilla | oh |
| 21:06.55 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 21:08.57 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: I just asked if you could elaborate a bit on your setup, how many actual disks (you just said "a lot"), as far as I understand RAID-F, but what kind of scheduled/continuous stuff? is that all within FlexRAID's GUI? or custom? what kind of load does it cause on the disk when it happens and how long does it take? do you feel it was worth the money? and whatever else you think makes sense to know for someone considering using it (: |
| 21:09.56 | Gnarfoz | I think I've grasped how it works in general, just curious if I'd be getting myself into something worthwile or useful-but-annoying ^^ |
| 21:10.35 | znf | raid over file-system? |
| 21:10.37 | znf | that sounds weird |
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| 21:12.39 | pompy | https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=653051804744798&set=a.133197436730240.23875.110938085622842&type=1 for science |
| 21:17.05 | znf | nevcairiel, so, stupid question - can I install that tRAID stuff and just keep my data the way it is now? (ie: do I have to wipe my drives and start clean?) |
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| 21:24.01 | znf | ...I'll never understand the appeal of "duck duck go" |
| 21:24.21 | znf | the #1 reason I use google is that it keeps track of what is relevant to me |
| 21:26.29 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: i have 16 discs in total, 2 parity 14 data, 40tb of usable data capacity. FlexRAID has its own scheduler which you can setup to update the raid snapshot how ever often you like, and run validate passes to check for data corruption against the stored checksums. |
| 21:26.51 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: A validate pass takes as long as it takes to read your slowest disk from start to end, for me its usually around 10 hours with 4tb discs. Update takes only as long as it takes to (re-)compute parity for the files you changed/added/removed |
| 21:26.54 | znf | are those 40tb in a single box? |
| 21:29.36 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: since it doesn't do data stripping, the reads/writes should probably be lower, but of course when re-computing parity it still needs to cross-reference with data on all other drives to compute it |
| 21:29.49 | nevcairiel | during normal operation single drives could even spin down |
| 21:30.14 | nevcairiel | although i turned that off since i hate waiting for the spinup |
| 21:34.45 | nevcairiel | it does have a 21 day trial, and due to the nature of operating on existing disks without requiring them to be reformated to be managed by it, its really easy to try out. just need an empty disk to put the parity on |
| 21:36.46 | Neffi | nevcairiel: wait. These are like, your personal disks? |
| 21:37.55 | nevcairiel | of course |
| 21:38.14 | Neffi | -- you have 40 TB of personal storage capacity? O.O wth are you archiving? |
| 21:38.24 | nebula169 | so. |
| 21:38.25 | nebula169 | much. |
| 21:38.27 | nebula169 | porn. |
| 21:38.27 | znf | oprn |
| 21:38.32 | znf | wow, I miss-typed that |
| 21:38.34 | znf | amazing |
| 21:38.35 | nebula169 | :p |
| 21:39.30 | nevcairiel | i have a whole lot of blu-rays, and i hate riffling through cabinets to find one, so I just rip them all to disk |
| 21:39.46 | nevcairiel | its usually the tv series box sets that take up an enormous amount though |
| 21:39.51 | Neffi | That's cool and all. But 40 TB worth? wow |
| 21:40.11 | Neffi | Do you stream rip them instead of encoding? Even still, that's a lot |
| 21:40.21 | nebula169 | i mean one movie is what? 40gb |
| 21:40.30 | nevcairiel | more like 35 or so |
| 21:40.52 | nevcairiel | its only half full now anyway |
| 21:41.09 | nevcairiel | I had like 24tb first, but then i reached like 20 used, so i expanded |
| 21:41.17 | nevcairiel | just two weeks ago! |
| 21:41.30 | Neffi | I can't imagine filling 20 TB. I was hoping to snag a single 4 TB green drive, wondering if I'll fill it before it dies |
| 21:41.49 | nevcairiel | i hate deleting things, is all |
| 21:41.52 | znf | I had to delete so many shows |
| 21:42.01 | znf | and some I started downloading in SD and delete after watching |
| 21:42.06 | znf | because of lack of storage :( |
| 21:42.12 | Neffi | Well, stockpiling enough content to not need Netflix is cool |
| 21:42.33 | znf | most of EU doesn't get netflix |
| 21:42.51 | znf | do germans get netflix? |
| 21:42.56 | nevcairiel | no |
| 21:43.40 | znf | I think it's UK, Netherlands, Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Finland and Ireland |
| 21:44.07 | nevcairiel | dont think i would get happy with netflix anyway |
| 21:44.10 | Neffi | It mostly sucks anyway. At first there's a bunch of good stuff to watch. And then you watch it all and realize they don't add new content that often |
| 21:44.18 | nevcairiel | its impossible to integrate into custom media solutions |
| 21:44.32 | znf | are they still on silverlight? |
| 21:44.36 | Neffi | What kind of htpc software do you use, nevcairiel? |
| 21:44.53 | nevcairiel | like all these media streaming things anyway, they just don't want you to have fun using it |
| 21:45.20 | nevcairiel | with optical media I can at least rip it and take out all the annoying shit |
| 21:45.39 | znf | doesn't even have an optical drive anymore |
| 21:45.42 | znf | *shrug* |
| 21:45.53 | nevcairiel | i only use it for ripping my BDs really :d |
| 21:45.57 | znf | I had an old dvd-rw on IDE |
| 21:46.17 | znf | When I got this new mobo, it didn't even cross my mind to check if it has an IDE port |
| 21:46.26 | nevcairiel | they dont build ide ports anymore |
| 21:47.06 | znf | no? cool |
| 21:47.18 | Neffi | about as rare as PCI slots these days |
| 21:47.31 | znf | I think my mobo has a PCI slot |
| 21:47.33 | znf | or even 2 |
| 21:47.45 | znf | _2_! |
| 21:50.30 | nevcairiel | anyway, it just grew over time, started out as only 2 discs a couple years ago in some recycled old PC hidden behind some cabinet, to my new system that needs to last for a long while (quick note, the system still has room for 8 more disks, for a grand total of 24) |
| 21:51.19 | znf | what kind of housing do you have for it?! |
| 21:51.44 | nevcairiel | Lian Li PC-D8000 |
| 21:52.07 | nebula169 | good ol' lian li |
| 21:53.23 | znf | on another note; why the f* do web designers still insist on using "Helvetica Neue" everywhere? |
| 21:54.02 | znf | OS X has like < 10% market share; why would you want to use a font that barely 10% of the internet has it? |
| 21:55.26 | nevcairiel | hipster font |
| 21:56.20 | znf | it doesn't make any sense :-/ |
| 21:57.47 | nevcairiel | stupid designers probably dont know that its not present, because they all have some weird adobe product installed that comes with it |
| 21:58.02 | znf | uhm, I have most adobe products |
| 21:58.04 | znf | I don't have that font |
| 22:00.08 | Neffi | Many designers use Mac and probably arent aware that it's not present elsewhere. Or what the term "web safe" means |
| 22:00.43 | znf | I would have agreed on that with you, if it was 2004 |
| 22:01.49 | znf | But it's 2014; I see this "mistake" on websites that are so damn complex that I can't figure out how the people who made them are so clueless :-/ |
| 22:02.01 | Neffi | Not sure if you mean more people are good at their jobs, or if "web safe" is irrelevant now |
| 22:02.25 | Neffi | I call it laziness really |
| 22:02.44 | Neffi | "Hey does this font exist everywhere?" "eehhhh I'll just provide a fallback" |
| 22:03.50 | Megalon | and that fallback shall be comic sans serif |
| 22:04.02 | znf | well, new standards are working hard to make "web safe" irelevant; that's why there's web-fonts. |
| 22:04.27 | Neffi | "web fonts? sounds cool. *bookmark reference*" nobody reads that stuff |
| 22:04.52 | znf | it's even more puzzling when you see a web site that uses web fonts for, let's say headers |
| 22:05.02 | znf | but the content is defined with Helvetica Neueu |
| 22:05.07 | znf | it's like... ?!??!? |
| 22:05.25 | znf | also, any "designer" or "web developer" that has done anything in the last ~3 years should be very well familiar with web fonts |
| 22:06.46 | Neffi | and if I had wheels I'd be a wagon |
| 22:06.57 | Neffi | What's the law now? 90% of everything sucks |
| 22:07.13 | nebula169 | only 90%? |
| 22:07.34 | Neffi | that metric is part of the 90% |
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| 22:17.22 | Sinaloit | 84.294% of statistics are made up on the spot |
| 22:17.45 | nevcairiel | including yours? |
| 22:18.18 | nevcairiel | znf: web developers hate web fonts, they are just stupid and annoying. stick to general purpose fonts already |
| 22:18.28 | Sinaloit | of course! |
| 22:18.48 | znf | nevcairiel, "Helvetica Neue" is even more retarded... |
| 22:18.58 | znf | also, I love web fonts; web fonts are awesome; they look the same everywhere! |
| 22:19.00 | nevcairiel | why do you even care |
| 22:19.53 | znf | because every damn time I happen to install Helvetica on my box, so many damn websites out there look different :-/ |
| 22:19.57 | znf | so I just end up removing the font after |
| 22:20.16 | znf | (because I'm used to the fall-back) |
| 22:20.21 | nevcairiel | they probably use it because its apples favorite font, so it looks more appleish on apple devices! |
| 22:23.19 | znf | what was LGA 1156 for? |
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| 22:23.53 | znf | ah, found it |
| 22:23.54 | nevcairiel | nehalem |
| 22:24.07 | znf | was looking trough the amount of sockets Intel had in the last ~4-5 years |
| 22:24.09 | Megalon | for the nephalem |
| 22:24.18 | znf | damn... 1366, 1150, 1151, 1155, 1156.. |
| 22:24.27 | znf | (well, 1151 is the next one) |
| 22:24.57 | nevcairiel | 1366 doesnt really count in that row, its a different series |
| 22:25.17 | znf | wasn't 1366 for sandy bridge? |
| 22:25.29 | Neffi | 1366 was the Nehalem equiv of 2011 |
| 22:25.39 | znf | mkay |
| 22:25.54 | nevcairiel | 1366 and 2011 are for the E series, 115x are for the consumer series |
| 22:26.22 | znf | so, 4 sockets in ~4 years? |
| 22:27.05 | Neffi | 3 |
| 22:27.28 | nevcairiel | 1156 was introduced in 2009, and in 2014 we have 1150, thats 3 in 5 years |
| 22:27.28 | znf | shush, I'm counting the up&coming! :P |
| 22:28.00 | Neffi | 1156 (Nehalem) -> 1155 (Sandy) -> 1150 (Haswell) -> 1151 (Skylake) [nyr] |
| 22:28.27 | nevcairiel | they just changed too much in the CPUs that the socket had to change |
| 22:28.47 | znf | wish AMD could stop jerking around :( |
| 22:28.47 | nevcairiel | moving the VRM around, moving the memory controller around... |
| 22:28.49 | Neffi | Though I believe the Haswell refresh is using a different chipset than Haswell (what Broadwell will use) so even if it's the same socket, it required new boards |
| 22:28.58 | znf | I think they gave up :( |
| 22:29.05 | znf | Neffi, that's what i remember reading, indeed |
| 22:29.10 | nevcairiel | yeah the new cpus need a new board, but new boards can use old cpus |
| 22:29.20 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: I hope you're asleep, but, keep me in the loop if you get any further in the chair research or actually buy one =) (also, how did you delete your bro's contacts? :O) |
| 22:29.21 | Neffi | VRM back off-chip for the refresh, I believe |
| 22:29.41 | nevcairiel | that reminds me, i wanted to shop for a new chair as well |
| 22:30.16 | znf | but seriously, give more competition on x86 |
| 22:30.36 | Neffi | AMD's own fault. They're moving towards competing in the ARM space btw |
| 22:30.48 | Neffi | I stopped hoping they would give Intel competition again |
| 22:31.05 | znf | that's just bad... :-/ |
| 22:31.11 | znf | Intel will rock up their prices :( |
| 22:31.19 | Neffi | they didnt already? |
| 22:31.42 | Neffi | they cant just charge any blind amount. people would stop buying PCs. a tablet is enough for most people |
| 22:31.47 | znf | well, it's still manageable |
| 22:31.50 | Neffi | They need to stay competitive even if AMD is out of the game |
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| 22:33.30 | znf | maybe soon it will be pointless to upgrade your whole platform |
| 22:34.00 | Neffi | keep dreaming |
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| 22:56.54 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: I'm not sure what to make of this, but it seems NeedForSeat is just using DXRACER as their OEM, i.e., the chairs appear to be identical. also, see first paragraph: http://www.needforseatusa.com/about_us |
| 23:02.44 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: now I'm not so certain anymore, but they seem to at least be very close. http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1zyh2t/those_needforseat_chairs_are_way_too_comfortable/ (further down) -- and n4s doesn't have models I'd feel comfortable buying at my current weight :P "max 130 kg" is a bit too close for comfort when I'm at 115... :P |
| 23:03.24 | Megalon | i have a dxracer |
| 23:04.02 | znf | Gnarfoz, eat less carbs! |
| 23:04.18 | Gnarfoz | znf: eat less, -period- |
| 23:04.30 | Megalon | who the fuck eats peroids |
| 23:04.32 | Gnarfoz | but I'm not one of great self discipline, so >_< |
| 23:04.33 | Megalon | i am outta here |
| 23:04.54 | Gnarfoz | Megalon: apparently you eat commas, because only without would that joke work! :P |
| 23:05.08 | Megalon | i once ate myself into a coma |
| 23:05.19 | Gnarfoz | that's a regular occurence. |
| 23:05.37 | Megalon | the meal ain't over when i am full! |
| 23:05.42 | Megalon | it's over when i hate myself |
| 23:05.52 | Gnarfoz | at the earliest |
| 23:06.03 | Gnarfoz | possibly also when I ate everything I cooked |
| 23:06.30 | znf | vodka is good |
| 23:06.41 | Gnarfoz | they're americans |
| 23:06.53 | znf | yeah, I was doing the same thing |
| 23:07.00 | znf | cooking shitloads, then eating everything in one sitting |
| 23:07.07 | znf | now I just stop when I feel full |
| 23:07.11 | Megalon | so are you looking for a seat from need4seat |
| 23:07.20 | Megalon | chair i mean |
| 23:07.37 | znf | most of the times I make a huge tuna salad and eat it in 2 sittings |
| 23:08.52 | Gnarfoz | Megalon: primarily, my current chair seems to be dying, I might be over-stressing it, dunno. the gas thingie (hey znf. :D) keeps giving away, dropping me down bit by bit until I'm at the lowest position the chair has |
| 23:09.26 | znf | it's dead alright |
| 23:09.30 | znf | mine died the same way :D |
| 23:09.41 | Gnarfoz | I'll have to get my shit together, put it in the car and go to the store where I bought it to see if they can/want to fix it, but they probably don't give a shit |
| 23:09.53 | Gnarfoz | (I could call/go without the chair first, of course) |
| 23:09.59 | Gnarfoz | anyway |
| 23:10.07 | Megalon | or you could just sit at home doing nothing |
| 23:11.00 | Gnarfoz | if that doesn't work out (which it probably won't), I'm in for a new one, and I'm inclined to spend even more money this time :P so it's going to have to be something durable & comfortable, because I spend 8-10 hours in the office sitting on my ass, and most days another 8-10 (or more >_<) at home |
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| 23:11.22 | Gnarfoz | Megalon: yes! that *is* the most likely short-term outcome. :D one day, though! |
| 23:11.37 | Gnarfoz | when it somehow becomes urgent enough to make me do it |
| 23:11.37 | znf | oooh, yeah, the alcohol is kicking in! |
| 23:11.47 | Gnarfoz | znf: good on ya ;D |
| 23:11.57 | Megalon | znf and his vodka enemas |
| 23:12.20 | Gnarfoz | znf: before you leave us (and your senses), please explain how "I just stop" works :D |
| 23:12.21 | znf | I haven't really drinked the last 2 months |
| 23:13.19 | znf | Gnarfoz, honestly, I would like to tell myself that I stopped out of sheer will; but I had a new girl in my life, so I wanted to lose some weight... so I guess I had that for motivation |
| 23:13.31 | znf | but even now I still stop when I feel full |
| 23:13.31 | Gnarfoz | that concept is rather foreign to chronic procrastinators, as is "just start doing it" :D |
| 23:13.40 | znf | I'm in the same boat |
| 23:13.47 | znf | and I was rather at the same weight (116kg) |
| 23:14.04 | znf | Now I hover at ~91 |
| 23:14.06 | Gnarfoz | it's not bad enough to be really annoying, but it's neither healthy nor attractive :P |
| 23:14.17 | znf | what's your height? |
| 23:14.21 | Gnarfoz | 187 |
| 23:14.29 | znf | oh, you're much taller than me |
| 23:14.39 | znf | I'm around 174 |
| 23:15.01 | miica | everybody under 100kg weight is checked in child health centre |
| 23:17.19 | znf | Gnarfoz, also, I had another motivation, which I mentioned here before; every time I ate bread, I was feeling like shit |
| 23:17.30 | znf | so gave up bread (and most gluten stuff) |
| 23:17.46 | Gnarfoz | I should put my swimming stuff in my trunk again to lower the "nah, don't wanna go swimming today" barrier |
| 23:18.01 | Megalon | fill your trunk with water |
| 23:18.01 | Gnarfoz | znf: oh, bleh, I forget what the condition is called, but it sucks |
| 23:18.07 | Megalon | go swimming everywhere you want |
| 23:18.14 | znf | it's not coeliac, I'm not that severely alergic to gluten |
| 23:18.15 | Megalon | celiac disease? |
| 23:18.15 | Gnarfoz | Megalon: need bigger car, but good idea |
| 23:18.34 | znf | but it makes me feel bloated |
| 23:19.07 | znf | once I gave up eating bread completely and dodging almost everything that clearly had gluten in it (I'm not talking about trace amounts), people started complimenting me for losing weight |
| 23:19.15 | Gnarfoz | question is, what do you eat instead? |
| 23:19.29 | Gnarfoz | probably the wrong question :D |
| 23:19.30 | znf | for a while I didn't replace it with anything |
| 23:19.42 | znf | just switched heavility to salads |
| 23:19.44 | Gnarfoz | yeah, that's what I was afraid of :D |
| 23:20.06 | Gnarfoz | that requires conviction <_< >_> |
| 23:20.06 | znf | then I found these awesome slices of corn |
| 23:20.14 | znf | not sure how to describe them |
| 23:20.23 | Megalon | corny? h3h33h |
| 23:21.23 | znf | but I could only get those in Kaufland, and the only kaufland we have is ~40kms away :-/ |
| 23:21.38 | znf | so now I just buy these expanded rice thingies |
| 23:21.50 | Gnarfoz | Megalon: let's try parallel conversations (don't cross the streams)... the question really is: are there alternatives to needforseat, and what are they? most chairs are not made for people who sit in chairs 16+ hour a day :| |
| 23:21.52 | znf | "Reiswaffeln" |
| 23:21.53 | nebula169 | i've found easiest way to "diet" is to spend a day cooking for the rest of the week so your meals are prepared |
| 23:22.12 | znf | http://ww2.biofuttershop.eu/ht/media/images/popup/reiswaffeln.jpg |
| 23:22.14 | znf | these |
| 23:22.19 | Gnarfoz | Megalon: what dxracer do you have and do you like it? |
| 23:22.36 | znf | I get mine at Lidl |
| 23:22.47 | Gnarfoz | znf: yeah, we have those... they actually aren't that low in calories, last I checked, though :D |
| 23:22.59 | Gnarfoz | solves your gluten problem, though |
| 23:23.15 | Megalon | no clue, when i go to the order from last year their page says No such item haha |
| 23:23.17 | znf | yeah, that's why I eat them :P |
| 23:23.28 | znf | though I found myself eating way too many at a meal lately |
| 23:23.31 | Gnarfoz | Megalon: ;D quality website |
| 23:23.50 | Megalon | well, the .de site does not even offer dxracer chairs anymore |
| 23:24.00 | Gnarfoz | they have their own |
| 23:24.02 | Gnarfoz | dxracer, I mean |
| 23:24.12 | Megalon | DXRACER COMMANDER S II |
| 23:24.15 | Megalon | says the email |
| 23:24.16 | Gnarfoz | http://www.dxracer.com.de/ |
| 23:24.16 | znf | Gnarfoz, considering changing your whole diet :P and cook for a whole week like nebula169 said :) |
| 23:24.38 | znf | I know how damn hard it is, though :( |
| 23:24.43 | Gnarfoz | >| |
| 23:24.44 | Gnarfoz | yep |
| 23:25.08 | Gnarfoz | it's not that I don't know I should do something, or even know what I should do, it's just a matter of doing it :P etc etc storyofmylife blah |
| 23:25.24 | znf | today I cooked some chicken breast, in the oven, just with rosemary and a few other herbs which I'm not sure what their names are in english |
| 23:25.28 | znf | like, 4 slices |
| 23:25.31 | znf | less than ~300gr |
| 23:25.41 | znf | and a box of frozen vegetables with butter |
| 23:25.42 | Gnarfoz | nebula169: yeah, I sometimes do that when I way overshoot how much I make on a sunday, and take the rest into work the next day, but I don't do it intentionally |
| 23:25.46 | Gnarfoz | I probably hsould |
| 23:26.01 | znf | ate like half of it at noon, then the rest 30 minutes ago |
| 23:26.20 | znf | (I could have eaten it in a whole serving, but I just stopped when I felt full) |
| 23:26.32 | Gnarfoz | znf: yeah, I /try/ to pick smaller portions right when I'm buying them, but apparently, I fail at that :D |
| 23:26.33 | znf | BONUS! I didn't have to cook now when I felt really hungry again :D |
| 23:26.46 | znf | And that's a good deterrent, "save for later" :> |
| 23:26.59 | znf | (so I don't have to cook at 2am) |
| 23:27.22 | Gnarfoz | so I end up with 400 g, 500 g packs of chicken or (whatever Pute is, another poultry-thing) |
| 23:27.58 | Gnarfoz | +potatoes/noodles/rice (whatever I feel like) +if I'm feeling fancy (or went shopping while hungry)... vegetables! |
| 23:28.06 | Gnarfoz | it should obviously be the other way around xD |
| 23:28.33 | Gnarfoz | max out the veggies, meat in the middle, cut out as much of the carbs as possible |
| 23:28.41 | znf | shopping when hungry is SO bad :-| |
| 23:28.50 | Megalon | you don't say :D |
| 23:28.57 | znf | I end up reaching the register and I'm all "OH DEAR GOD, AGAIN?" |
| 23:29.02 | Gnarfoz | cooking while hungry doesn't help either, but it kind of comes with the situation |
| 23:29.28 | Gnarfoz | Megalon: their model names are all... "U series", "M series" tho |
| 23:29.31 | znf | true, but if you try "mastering" the whole "I'll save some more for later, so I don't have to cook at retarded hours", it should do you good :P |
| 23:29.40 | Megalon | Gnarfoz: bought it from needforseat.de :7 |
| 23:29.45 | znf | <-- profesional lazy person |
| 23:29.51 | znf | I would rather cook once, than cook twice! |
| 23:30.01 | Gnarfoz | Megalon: ah yes, I was just typing how that sounds more like needforseat's model names |
| 23:30.04 | znf | (though I love cooking) |
| 23:30.09 | znf | and I love cooking for other people! |
| 23:30.21 | Gnarfoz | I rarely cook *another time* at stupid hours |
| 23:30.27 | Gnarfoz | rarely? never |
| 23:30.54 | Megalon | i cook once |
| 23:30.54 | Gnarfoz | I just cook at whatever time I have managed to procrastinate cooking to and it's so much that I feel bad for hours :p |
| 23:31.02 | Megalon | can't stand the cleaning part of it :s |
| 23:31.16 | Gnarfoz | haha, cleaning is "gotta clean so I can cook" many times |
| 23:31.19 | Torhal | Megalon cooks the books. |
| 23:31.33 | Gnarfoz | Torhal: http://clickingbad.nullism.com/ do some laundry |
| 23:31.41 | Torhal | Noo |
| 23:31.42 | Megalon | Torhal, you mean cooking by the book http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5KxZ5Lc_YA |
| 23:31.48 | Gnarfoz | the book cooking kind =D |
| 23:31.55 | znf | Megalon, same! |
| 23:31.56 | znf | dear $deity |
| 23:32.00 | znf | I fuckin' hate cleaning |
| 23:32.08 | Torhal | Good lord, Megalon. You're an evil one. |
| 23:32.21 | znf | when I have some (girl) friends over, they always offer to clean up |
| 23:32.30 | znf | #1 reason I love having friends over :D |
| 23:32.38 | Megalon | i hate people |
| 23:32.42 | Megalon | so there is that |
| 23:32.43 | Gnarfoz | haha, shame them into helping |
| 23:33.03 | Gnarfoz | tbh, I also prefer being on my own, most of the time |
| 23:33.12 | Gnarfoz | but that's a whole nother topic |
| 23:33.14 | Megalon | Torhal, you gotta do the cooking by book, you know you can't be lazy |
| 23:33.30 | Torhal | SoBad.html |
| 23:33.36 | Megalon | i am single by choice |
| 23:33.39 | Megalon | no my choice |
| 23:33.43 | znf | I'm a loner, too. Though I have tried to change this lately |
| 23:33.54 | znf | Megalon, after being for 9 years in a relationship, I LOVE BEING SINGLE |
| 23:35.16 | Megalon | that's like really good for you |
| 23:35.49 | znf | being in a relationship is overrated... |
| 23:35.54 | znf | paid sex is cheaper :-/ |
| 23:35.58 | Megalon | :D |
| 23:38.09 | znf | need vodka refill |
| 23:40.16 | znf | damn my little town; it's impossible to get a springform :( |
| 23:40.47 | Megalon | bakery znf |
| 23:40.58 | znf | no bakery |
| 23:41.18 | Gnarfoz | amazon \o/ |
| 23:41.56 | znf | we aren't blessed with a local amazon :( |
| 23:44.00 | Gnarfoz | I can't even imagine what life must be like :( |
| 23:44.53 | znf | shitty |
| 23:45.17 | Gnarfoz | woah, gmaps 8 has lane guidance? I kind of didn't expect that to ever happen |
| 23:45.41 | Gnarfoz | oh... US and parts of canada |
| 23:45.43 | Gnarfoz | right. |
| 23:45.44 | znf | yay! http://www.ustream.tv/channel/iss-hdev-payload/theater |
| 23:45.56 | znf | ...doesn't it already do lane guidance? |
| 23:46.08 | znf | or am I confusing that with something else? |
| 23:46.09 | Torhal | Gnarfoz: Lane guidance? As in "get in the right lane; the asshole in front of you is going too slow?" |
| 23:47.08 | Gnarfoz | Torhal: "go in either of the two right lanes to follow your route" and such |
| 23:47.19 | znf | I was thinking "get to the left lane to follow your route" |
| 23:47.20 | Gnarfoz | ^ =) |
| 23:47.27 | znf | so, doesn't it? |
| 23:47.33 | znf | I really had the impression it does |
| 23:47.40 | Torhal | I was being facetious. |
| 23:47.48 | znf | something something your mom |
| 23:47.53 | Gnarfoz | (:D |
| 23:48.09 | Gnarfoz | znf: did you mean "didn't it do that before?" |
| 23:48.15 | znf | yeah, that |
| 23:48.21 | Gnarfoz | because it didn't, it did stuff like "keep right at the fork" |
| 23:48.25 | znf | I see |
| 23:48.26 | Megalon | throws poo at Torhal |
| 23:48.32 | znf | Could have sworn it already did/does |
| 23:48.35 | znf | (I'm on iOS, so...) |
| 23:48.36 | Megalon | I was being fecetious. |
| 23:48.41 | znf | man, I should really change my phone O.O |
| 23:49.11 | Gnarfoz | but at least in German autobahn situations where it should really just say "keep right", it says "merge onto A5 and continue for 240 km" |
| 23:49.35 | znf | I see |
| 23:49.38 | Gnarfoz | or even including all destinations that are advertised on the... I have no idea what those are called |
| 23:49.47 | znf | well, we don't have 5-lane roads :P |
| 23:49.51 | Gnarfoz | vocabulary, where are you?! |
| 23:49.56 | Megalon | znf is glad to have roads |
| 23:50.06 | znf | we don't really have them |
| 23:50.12 | znf | but, we can proud ourselves with another thing |
| 23:50.16 | Gnarfoz | lol, so stupid |
| 23:50.20 | znf | most expensive highway ever! |
| 23:50.25 | Gnarfoz | it just translates as "sign", fuck that |
| 23:50.35 | znf | I mean, in the same conditions, poland manages to build 1KM of highway for ~2mil€ |
| 23:50.44 | znf | It costs 6mil for us |
| 23:50.54 | Megalon | was it made by hand? |
| 23:50.57 | Megalon | handgeklöppelt! |
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| 23:51.00 | Repo | 5adb220: Added indication of which column is being sorted on, and whether sorting is ascending or descending. |
| 23:51.00 | Repo | c761cdf: Added the ability to sort rows by column. |
| 23:51.00 | Repo | dea78e3: More reorganization. |
| 23:51.00 | Repo | 534d14a: Merged BattleNetWoWList and FriendsList into WoWFriendsList. More renames. |
| 23:51.15 | Gnarfoz | so it'll say like "take exit 57 Koblenz / Mainz / Frankfurt / Othertown" |
| 23:51.29 | Gnarfoz | when the signs are really overhead and indicate those destinations for the left 2 lanes |
| 23:51.31 | Torhal | stuffs Megalon into a barrel and shoves it off of Niagara Falls. |
| 23:51.51 | Megalon | time for... BARREL ROLLS |
| 23:52.01 | Gnarfoz | so it's a bit jarring, because proper GPS navigation devices like TomTom, Garmin and such (and their smartphone apps, too), do it as I'd expect it |
| 23:52.49 | znf | so... how to beat depression? |
| 23:53.19 | Gnarfoz | anyway, apparently Google doesn't want to anger those guys too much (they are their data suppliers), so they take it slowly ;) |
| 23:54.09 | Gnarfoz | znf: nice earth watch thing, I should get a TV so I can have that constantly running on it ^^ |
| 23:54.27 | znf | it goes dark every 40 minutes or so |
| 23:55.34 | Gnarfoz | oooh yeah, TeslaUnread with WhatsApp & Hangouts support |
| 23:55.52 | znf | wth is that |
| 23:56.05 | znf | man, I fuckin' miss Android :-( |
| 23:56.26 | Gnarfoz | plugin for my launcher (tesla launcher) to overlay unread counts on app icons |
| 23:56.48 | Gnarfoz | (which, I think, is something iOS supports out of the box? at least I think I saw that on screenshots) |
| 23:56.58 | znf | Android has changed so much, I'll probably have to pass trough a huge accomodation period |
| 23:57.00 | znf | yeah, it does |
| 23:57.24 | Gnarfoz | but then, iOS doesn't really have the concept of home screen vs. app list |
| 23:57.32 | Gnarfoz | (or have they changed that) |
| 23:57.58 | znf | everything's an icon on the home screen |
| 23:58.03 | znf | unless you put it in a folder |
| 23:58.20 | Gnarfoz | yeah, folders are something else |
| 23:58.22 | znf | wonders if he has any celery root |
| 23:58.29 | znf | folders inherit the "unread" count from apps |
| 23:59.29 | Repo | frenemy: 03Torhal 07master * 5.4.7.3-10-g76e5383 Frenemy.lua: [+1 commit] Fix for sorting on presence name when one isn't assigned. |
