| 00:06.39 | znf | mmmm, yeah, I will never gamble again on 2nd hand RAM |
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| 00:16.43 | Repo | gdkpd: 03stolenlegacy * r161 (2 files in 1 directory): - Fixed a typo. |
| 00:16.43 | Repo | - Updated TOC to 50400. |
| 00:16.43 | Repo | - Preparing beta-18 tag. |
| 00:16.52 | Repo | gdkpd: 03stolenlegacy 04beta-18 * r162 : Tagging beta-18 |
| 00:18.45 | stolenlegacy | hmm |
| 00:18.51 | stolenlegacy | where'd the packager status page go? |
| 00:19.16 | stolenlegacy | (clarification: the project-specific one) |
| 00:20.30 | stolenlegacy | oh, nevermind me, there's just some queue backlog and it hasn't started packaging yet |
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| 01:09.55 | quiescens | moo |
| 01:10.07 | Sinaloit | oom |
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| 02:36.23 | znf | Stanzilla, are the directwrite fonts still working fine for you? |
| 02:37.35 | znf | because mine (facebook) are still broken :-( |
| 02:40.09 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 02:40.10 | Stanzilla | all good |
| 02:40.34 | znf | Stanzilla, would you test something for me? |
| 02:40.53 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 02:41.45 | znf | install these fonts: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/120650/helvetica.zip |
| 02:41.57 | znf | (don't overwrite if you have them already) |
| 02:42.05 | znf | and tell me if facebook looks fine for you after that |
| 02:43.03 | Stanzilla | yeah looks fucked up now |
| 02:43.57 | Stanzilla | Helvetica Black is the one that breaks it |
| 02:44.41 | znf | mhm |
| 02:44.48 | znf | but it only breaks directwrite |
| 02:44.52 | znf | under chrome |
| 02:45.14 | znf | mmm, mkay... now, which are the default helvetica fonts? :-/ |
| 02:45.17 | znf | on windows systems |
| 02:45.43 | znf | (does it even come with any helvetica?) |
| 02:46.07 | Stanzilla | as none of the one you sent me asked to replace anything |
| 02:46.09 | Stanzilla | I guess not |
| 02:46.14 | znf | mkay |
| 02:46.15 | znf | thanks |
| 02:46.27 | znf | gonna do a bit more testing then report it as a bug |
| 02:47.34 | znf | Oh. It breaks Internet Explorer, too |
| 02:48.43 | znf | So it's not a chrome issue. It's rather a DirectWrite issue, for using an approximate font name (ie: Helvetica Black instead of 'Helvetica') |
| 02:48.48 | znf | Should I report it? |
| 02:49.06 | Stanzilla | probably |
| 02:49.58 | MysticalOS | blizzard launcher uses approx names. OS X bitches about it every time i open the launcher in console.app :) |
| 02:51.15 | MysticalOS | 4/24/14 8:30:12.962 PM battle.net[3834]: CoreText performance note: Client called CTFontCreateWithName() using name "Blizzard" and got font with PostScript name "Blizzard-Regular". For best performance, only use PostScript names when calling this API. |
| 02:51.16 | MysticalOS | :) |
| 02:51.52 | MysticalOS | it's annoying, blizz could fix that in about 2 min. and i been reporting it for months |
| 02:52.17 | znf | I'm not even sure how this bug should sound. "Hey Chrome, DirectWrite fucks up, go bug microsoft to fix it"?! |
| 02:52.18 | MysticalOS | what would happen if I had another blizzard font? |
| 02:52.40 | Sinaloit | Probalby use that |
| 02:53.19 | MysticalOS | I should rename wingdings into blizzard, then see if it messes up app, THEN report bug like "wtf blizz, my text is all screwed up" |
| 02:53.42 | Sinaloit | They'd probably just blame SLI or something :P |
| 02:54.41 | MysticalOS | Console reports flash also uses approx font names |
| 02:54.57 | MysticalOS | i tried using that on blizz too "don't you want to be better than flash?" |
| 02:55.59 | znf | Hmm. I should try that. |
| 02:56.01 | znf | How can I edit a font? |
| 02:56.18 | znf | I want to edit Windings to have "Helvetica White" font name |
| 02:56.42 | MysticalOS | I'd try a hex editor. got to be in there somehwere |
| 02:58.03 | znf | wow http://i.imgur.com/k7gmk3n.png |
| 02:58.08 | znf | 1991! |
| 02:58.21 | znf | that's almost as old as my ex-ex girlfriend |
| 02:58.38 | MysticalOS | your ex ex girlfriend is 1991 years old? |
| 02:59.06 | znf | no, she was born in 1990! |
| 03:03.25 | znf | So, could a DIMM slot be fucked? |
| 03:03.42 | znf | Because anything I stick in my 4th DIMM slot screws up everything. |
| 03:03.52 | Sinaloit | Yes, its rather unlikely though. But it is possible |
| 03:05.15 | znf | though I had 2x2 + 1x2 sticks previously (so all slots used up) and I didn't have any issues |
| 03:05.40 | znf | I replaced the 1x2 with 2 GB x2, and I got 3 BSODs in 3 days :-/ |
| 03:06.47 | znf | I went and tested all 4 DIMMs I had, none had any issue (tested them one by one). |
| 03:06.54 | znf | As soon as I put them all 4 in, memtest went nuts |
| 03:07.29 | Neffi | have you done cursory swaps to rule out the possibility that one of the RAM sticks is fucked? |
| 03:07.33 | znf | yup |
| 03:07.36 | znf | swapped them in all ways |
| 03:07.48 | znf | if I fill the 4th slot, memtest throws out errors |
| 03:08.02 | znf | I tried booting up with only the 4th slot filled |
| 03:08.16 | znf | the system froze while running memtest |
| 03:08.21 | Neffi | I've had an issue where a RAM slot or a pair of them was utterly fucked before, but I'm talking about circa-2000 boards from shitty companies like.. Biostar? |
| 03:08.39 | znf | this is an intel mobo |
| 03:08.58 | znf | old, but still... :-/ |
| 03:09.14 | znf | I'm actually wondering if the issue appears only when I fill it with a 2GB dimm |
| 03:09.26 | znf | (as, like I said, I had it filled with a 1GB dimm and it worked fine) |
| 03:09.31 | Neffi | I would be wary of the setup. It may be another issue masquerading as a bad RAM slot. I wouldn't do any critical work on that machine |
| 03:09.42 | znf | What could it be? :-/ |
| 03:10.01 | Neffi | Check specs. Make sure that the amount of RAM is fine. Make sure it's compatible. Make sure the RAM are compatible with each other. |
| 03:10.08 | Sinaloit | Are they all the same type of DIMM? |
| 03:10.21 | znf | Sinaloit, they're all DDR2 @ 800Mhz, but they're different |
| 03:10.25 | znf | 2 hynix and 2 kingmax |
| 03:10.32 | Neffi | that can cause issues, but not usually. |
| 03:10.39 | znf | I also tested them in pairs and mixed |
| 03:10.45 | znf | 1 hynix, 1 kingmax |
| 03:10.54 | znf | and both kingmax, both hynix |
| 03:11.25 | znf | put them on channel a, both, then I tried one in the A channel, one in the B channel |
| 03:11.33 | znf | never encounter any issue until I use the 4th slot :/ |
| 03:11.53 | znf | haven't seen such a weird issue |
| 03:12.40 | Neffi | not sure what to make of it honestly |
| 03:13.35 | Sinaloit | that is kind of odd, i assume the CAS latency on the same brand is the same? |
| 03:13.47 | znf | on the same brand, yeah |
| 03:14.13 | znf | kingmax is at 5-5-5-18, hynix is 6-6-6-18 (both of the sticks) |
| 03:14.19 | znf | same batch/model number |
| 03:14.49 | Sinaloit | Latest BIOS? could always be a bug |
| 03:15.00 | znf | latest and greatest, thought about that, too |
| 03:16.23 | znf | Stanzilla, http://i.imgur.com/w8UpcYL.png |
| 03:17.50 | Sinaloit | Hrm not sure. Sounds like you've done what you can to check the RAM. Short of putting it all in another computer, don't suppose you have a spare you can swap it all into at once? Other than that theres power supply (i've seen truely bizarre problems from faulty power supplies) and voodoo curse |
| 03:17.58 | Sinaloit | and bad ram slot |
| 03:18.22 | znf | nope, don't have another PC with 4 slots to test |
| 03:18.27 | znf | especially DDR2 :-/ |
| 03:19.50 | znf | I'll just try 2 x 1 GB dimms tomorow, to see if the issue still appears |
| 03:19.58 | znf | if it doesn't, I'm gonna chalk it up to a BIOS issue |
| 03:20.36 | Sinaloit | I wasn't kidding about the PS issue, dunno if you have a PS tester but if you do only takes a moment to check it out |
| 03:21.22 | znf | I do have a "dumb" one with leds that light up checking the power |
| 03:22.09 | Sinaloit | can't hurt right? :) |
| 03:22.31 | znf | Sure, I'll give it a try, but can't be arsed to do it now. Will test it when I get those 2x1GB sticks |
| 03:22.47 | znf | meanwhile I'm looking trough the bios file, maybe there's something disabled in it... |
| 03:23.49 | znf | (as I have a modded bios, though I haven't touched anything but enabling Intel's cpu fan controller and changed the boot splash) |
| 03:30.24 | znf | ...and looking trough the settings available to me to change, I couldn't have done anything to break something |
| 03:36.01 | znf | Stanzilla, uuuuuugh! White Verdana over light/dark grey on reddit with RES night them _and_ DirectWrite == HEAVEN! |
| 03:36.05 | znf | Stanzilla, _so_ smooth! |
| 03:37.48 | Stanzilla | znf: now give me a version of stics without the watermark pls :D |
| 03:37.57 | znf | didn't I give it? |
| 03:38.00 | Stanzilla | no |
| 03:38.13 | Stanzilla | I will credit you/the tool in the description ofc |
| 03:38.58 | znf | sure, I guess *shrug* |
| 03:39.05 | znf | let me build a custom .exe |
| 03:39.11 | Stanzilla | yay |
| 03:39.36 | Stanzilla | need to kick my brother into youtubing all his stuff |
| 03:45.59 | znf | Stanzilla, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/120650/Stics-Stanzilla.exe (wait for the upload) |
| 03:48.14 | Fisker- | hey Stanzilla |
| 03:55.19 | quiescens | o.o |
| 03:55.28 | znf | I seem to have started Dagmar on his rant |
| 03:55.30 | znf | and I can't stop him |
| 03:55.33 | znf | I'm sorry :( |
| 03:56.27 | quiescens | its all your fault |
| 03:58.10 | pompy | hahah |
| 03:58.44 | pompy | it's all your fault Torhal |
| 03:59.10 | Stanzilla | znf: thx |
| 04:01.53 | znf | Stanzilla, test it btw, I haven't :D |
| 04:02.17 | znf | Stanzilla, oh, btw, when having DirectWrite enabled, do you see the same weirdness with labels in GMail? |
| 04:02.22 | znf | they have a white line at the bottom |
| 04:02.54 | znf | hmm, actually when zoomed in, in doesn't look like a line |
| 04:03.04 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/KM2ACVo.png |
| 04:09.06 | znf | Stanzilla, this! http://i.imgur.com/lFMFxGp.png |
| 04:10.46 | znf | Well. Crap. |
| 04:12.06 | znf | I seem to be "discovering" all sorts of general DirectWrite issues, not just chrome... |
| 04:14.40 | quiescens | or you broked it |
| 04:18.30 | Fisker | I once killed a guy |
| 04:36.05 | quiescens | reported o.o |
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| 05:02.04 | Fisker | why quiescens? |
| 05:18.55 | Stanzilla | znf: nope |
| 05:29.14 | znf | Stanzilla, I think the last "old UI" remnant of Chrome is the download panel |
| 05:45.53 | znf | so, Stanzilla have you seen http://oneplus.net/one ? |
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| 07:21.17 | Fisker | wel duh znf |
| 07:21.37 | znf | Fisker, doh what? |
| 07:21.40 | znf | oneplus is sexy, no? |
| 07:22.00 | Fisker | In theory I gues |
| 07:22.02 | Fisker | guess* |
| 07:24.56 | Fisker | hmm |
| 07:25.02 | Fisker | this upgrade of ubantoo is running slowly |
| 07:28.36 | Fisker | terminal still responding so I guess it's just sloooooooow |
| 07:35.04 | znf | I got a ticket last night from Linode |
| 07:35.13 | znf | they're retiring my VPS host :( |
| 07:35.25 | znf | so I have to lose my 1200+ days uptime to migrate to a new host computer |
| 07:36.51 | nevcairiel | you should update your kernel more often then every 4 years |
| 07:37.05 | znf | I know :( |
| 07:37.07 | znf | but me lazy |
| 07:37.24 | Fisker | ugh |
| 07:37.29 | Fisker | dis is bad |
| 07:37.42 | znf | you b0rked it? |
| 07:37.44 | Fisker | looks like the upgrade is stuck starting some shit called irqbalance |
| 07:37.58 | znf | uhm, isn't irqbalance a kernel process? |
| 07:38.06 | Fisker | I have no idea |
| 07:38.16 | znf | ah, it's not, my bad |
| 07:38.18 | Fisker | root 8211 0.0 0.0 18172 1200 pts/2 S+ 09:14 0:00 start irqbalance |
| 07:38.37 | Fisker | that was 20 minutes ago |
| 07:38.39 | znf | if it's stuck for that long, might want to sighup it? |
| 07:38.43 | Fisker | 24 actually |
| 07:38.45 | nevcairiel | its a silly helper tool to try to distribute load over multiple cpus |
| 07:39.26 | sb | morgen |
| 07:39.30 | Fisker | I could try |
| 07:39.34 | Fisker | but if you mess it up znf |
| 07:39.39 | Fisker | I'm holding you resposnible |
| 07:39.42 | Fisker | responsible* |
| 07:39.46 | znf | that's ok |
| 07:40.12 | Fisker | god damnit |
| 07:40.15 | Fisker | there was an exit error |
| 07:40.23 | Fisker | but I didn't see it until it cruised by |
| 07:40.48 | Fisker | good idea: enable logging |
| 07:40.49 | Fisker | :D |
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| 07:41.30 | Fisker | I guess it also logs this otherwise anyway? |
| 07:42.08 | znf | I haven't done an upgrade on ubuntu in ages |
| 07:42.30 | Fisker | pssh |
| 07:42.35 | Fisker | 14.04 was released last week |
| 07:42.39 | znf | I know |
| 07:42.47 | znf | my VPS is still runing 10.04 :> |
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| 07:43.10 | sb | Stanzilla, znf amr combat log doesnt look bad - did you follow the AMR/twintop convo on twitter yesteray/tonight? |
| 07:43.18 | znf | no |
| 07:43.23 | znf | I'm still waiting for my alpha |
| 07:43.35 | sb | "do-release-upgrade" btw :D |
| 07:43.38 | Fisker | sh: 0: getcwd() failed: No such file or directory |
| 07:43.40 | Fisker | O_o |
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| 07:44.06 | Fisker | see znf that was your fault |
| 07:44.11 | znf | yes |
| 07:44.28 | sb | znf: http://blog.askmrrobot.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/SPSpellList.png |
| 07:44.43 | znf | a screenshot only says 1000 words |
| 07:44.47 | znf | give alpha! :( |
| 07:47.18 | Fisker | uh |
| 07:47.20 | Fisker | that was weird |
| 07:50.10 | Fisker | I'm like a magician |
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| 07:53.08 | znf | v |
| 07:53.09 | znf | http://www.engadget.com/2014/04/23/oneplus-one-launch-ceo-pete-lau-interview/ |
| 07:53.13 | znf | engadget review |
| 07:53.55 | znf | these guys were damn smart about their OS |
| 07:54.10 | znf | slap CM on it, save shitloads of money on development |
| 07:55.11 | nevcairiel | they could've used plain android like Nexus as well, no one forces you to invent your own shitty graphics layer on top |
| 07:55.21 | nevcairiel | the vendors do that because they want to |
| 07:55.49 | znf | I'm guessing they want to "stand out" |
| 07:56.05 | znf | I despise samsungs customization; I really love HTC's Sense |
| 07:56.17 | nevcairiel | never used a HTC, but samsungs is just weird |
| 07:57.04 | znf | when I bought my HTC Desire years ago, I was totally pissed off by Sense. I got around to love it in a week, tops |
| 07:57.36 | znf | then I used aosp and I found it horrible without htc's sense |
| 07:57.47 | znf | I played a bit with SGS4 - horrible customization |
| 07:57.55 | znf | But HTC One's Sense is nice |
| 07:59.40 | znf | "option to toggle between capacitive Android buttons and on-screen buttons" |
| 07:59.44 | znf | this... this is gold! :D |
| 08:04.59 | Fisker | So that irqbalance failed |
| 08:05.19 | Fisker | the upgrade manager automatically does a dkpg --configure -a when it fails |
| 08:05.21 | Fisker | which also failed |
| 08:05.27 | Fisker | ctrl+z'd like a boss |
| 08:05.41 | Fisker | and then just did dkpg --configure -a again |
| 08:05.42 | Fisker | and it worked |
| 08:05.45 | Fisker | O_o |
| 08:06.22 | Fisker | onwards to 2.4! |
| 08:07.11 | Fisker | err 14.04 |
| 08:07.33 | znf | oh, right, I'll most likely have to do 10.04 -> 12.04 -> 14.04 |
| 08:09.11 | sb | you cant do 12.04 -> 14.04 |
| 08:09.11 | Fisker | yeah |
| 08:09.15 | Fisker | yes you can |
| 08:09.20 | Fisker | LTS -> LTS is supported |
| 08:09.24 | sb | not yet |
| 08:09.26 | Fisker | oh |
| 08:09.27 | sb | only with some fancy switch |
| 08:09.31 | Fisker | why not? |
| 08:09.38 | sb | 12.04 upgrade will be available with .1 relese |
| 08:09.45 | znf | shit fuck what? |
| 08:09.56 | sb | http://askubuntu.com/questions/125825/upgrading-lts-to-lts-server-why-wait-for-the-first-point-release this |
| 08:10.54 | sb | if you dont care about LTS there is a flag or you could remove the LTS restriction *shrug* |
| 08:11.02 | znf | I really need to upgrade... |
| 08:11.05 | znf | and I really need LTS |
| 08:11.16 | Fisker | then run it with the -d flag? |
| 08:11.18 | znf | I need to take advantage of this downtime as much as I can :P |
| 08:11.50 | Funkeh` | -DATAMINER_RED_HERRING = "There is no cow level."; |
| 08:11.50 | Funkeh` | +DATAMINER_RED_HERRING = "By reading this, you are automatically awesome."; |
| 08:11.54 | znf | lol |
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| 08:12.08 | sb | yup, "do-release-upgrade -d" then znf |
| 08:12.28 | sb | also, why do you need LTS? |
| 08:12.49 | Fisker | LTS is the shit now that non-lts only have 9 month support cycles :P |
| 08:13.00 | Fisker | Pretty fucking annoying they didn't patch openssl on 13.04 |
| 08:13.07 | Fisker | I had to do work :( |
| 08:13.11 | sb | oh they did |
| 08:13.16 | Fisker | They caved? |
| 08:13.24 | Fisker | Well that was too late anyway |
| 08:13.29 | znf | sb, because server? |
| 08:13.37 | sb | znf: so...? |
| 08:13.46 | znf | uhm, production server? |
| 08:13.49 | sb | so...? |
| 08:13.58 | znf | I don't want to bother updating every 9 months? |
| 08:14.11 | znf | I have almost 4 years of uptime on this thing. Imagine how many full upgrades I did |
| 08:14.23 | sb | err sorry |
| 08:14.28 | sb | reboots are required like every 2 weeks |
| 08:14.29 | sb | even on LTS |
| 08:14.41 | znf | because...? |
| 08:14.45 | nevcairiel | kernel updates |
| 08:14.47 | sb | because kernel updates |
| 08:15.00 | sb | running without reboot for 4 years is just... well |
| 08:15.13 | znf | I'm not even running the ubuntu kernel, because my VPS is Xen |
| 08:15.15 | Fisker | But I thought you never had to reboot linux servers |
| 08:15.17 | sb | also, running on the same server hardware for 4 years... :D |
| 08:15.28 | Fisker | (in b4 live patching the kernel) |
| 08:15.51 | znf | I'd rather reboot daily than live patching the kernel, heh |
| 08:16.26 | sb | i dont see how "didnt reboot in 4 years" fits this ^^ |
| 08:16.27 | sb | :D |
| 08:16.32 | nevcairiel | if you're running a production system without a fallback for maintenance, you're doing it wrong anyway, so reboot for an update shouldn't be a problem |
| 08:17.12 | Fisker | yay looks like this one went without a hitch |
| 08:17.29 | sb | never had any problems with ubuntu release upgrades |
| 08:17.43 | sb | some config file annoyance, but.. *shrug* |
| 08:18.01 | Fisker | Back in the day until like I think 11.x mine usually broke all the time |
| 08:22.00 | Fisker | pretty annoying that mysql takes a bunch of years to reinstall |
| 08:22.04 | Fisker | or upgrade |
| 08:22.25 | nevcairiel | i never understood why everything about mysql is so slow |
| 08:25.10 | Fisker | oh man |
| 08:25.16 | Fisker | now apache wants to upgrade conf files again |
| 08:25.19 | Fisker | This is going to be bad |
| 08:26.48 | Fisker | yeah starting it failed |
| 08:26.50 | Fisker | yaaaay |
| 08:37.38 | Fisker | gah |
| 08:37.41 | Fisker | another failure :P |
| 08:38.22 | Fisker | This time it just couldn't read some removal cfg at the end |
| 08:38.27 | Fisker | so don't think it's important |
| 08:38.30 | Fisker | but who knows :o |
| 08:39.14 | Fisker | oh that was bad |
| 08:40.37 | znf | Fisker, MariaDB! |
| 08:40.47 | znf | I'm actually going to drop-in mariaDB |
| 08:51.38 | sb | why? |
| 08:51.42 | sb | what do you expect? |
| 08:51.53 | znf | I expect to get rid of mysql |
| 08:55.23 | znf | Stanzilla, wow, this font "bug" is amazing. |
| 08:59.18 | znf | I tested 3 browsers. All of them fail the rendering 2 lines of text with the proper font |
| 09:03.26 | znf | wow |
| 09:03.27 | znf | amazing |
| 09:03.34 | znf | only opera manages to get the font right |
| 09:08.37 | znf | So, yeah: http://i.imgur.com/sE7T82o.png |
| 09:16.11 | wink | such browser. many fonts. wow |
| 09:16.25 | wink | znf: source? |
| 09:16.33 | znf | the html file? |
| 09:16.38 | wink | yea |
| 09:16.59 | znf | http://jsfiddle.net/Zhj59/2/ |
| 09:17.08 | znf | doesn't work unless you have the Helvetica Black font installed |
| 09:17.30 | znf | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/120650/Helvetica%20Black.ttf |
| 09:17.40 | wink | obviously :) |
| 09:20.23 | wink | meh, cant get it to work |
| 09:20.27 | znf | blink and webkit both render it corectly |
| 09:20.28 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/D43hJFi.png |
| 09:20.40 | znf | it's just when enabling directwrite under chrome that fucks it up :D |
| 09:21.01 | wink | I dont want to restart browsers right now :P |
| 09:21.08 | wink | and epiphany didnt grasp the font |
| 09:23.41 | znf | there we go https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=366983 |
| 09:24.19 | wink | interesting how fc-list lists it but no browser gets it |
| 09:25.16 | wink | znf: why didnt you add the jsfiddle url? |
| 09:25.27 | wink | ah attached html,. nvm |
| 09:25.29 | znf | he mentioned "provide sample html" |
| 09:25.42 | wink | I hate fonts |
| 09:26.03 | znf | yeah, fonts suck |
| 09:26.07 | znf | hail web fonts! |
| 09:27.48 | znf | I'm seriously incredibly curious what causes this bug |
| 09:28.09 | znf | first I thought it's just windows' DirectWrite being b0rked |
| 09:28.20 | znf | but IE11 and Chrome with DirectWrite enabled don't produce the same results |
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| 09:59.30 | Fisker | Won't CSS make it fallback to helvetica black? |
| 10:00.02 | znf | it shouldn't |
| 10:00.22 | znf | Helvetica should be Helvetica. It shouldn't fallback to Helvetica Black |
| 10:00.41 | znf | I tried installing a font called Helvetica White, there was no fallback to it |
| 10:00.48 | Fisker | ah |
| 10:00.50 | znf | So I guess it's something only related to -Black fonts |
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| 10:32.11 | wink | font racism? |
| 10:33.39 | znf | heh |
| 10:34.02 | znf | changes bug title to "DirectWrite suffers from font-racism" |
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| 11:34.14 | Fisker | It's more reverse racism though |
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| 12:40.43 | Fisker | man Stanzilla |
| 12:40.50 | Fisker | I would never smash my phone for a white phone |
| 12:40.52 | Fisker | unless it was an iphone |
| 12:41.29 | Fisker | also |
| 12:41.41 | Fisker | I'd need a phone to record it |
| 12:41.41 | Fisker | also |
| 12:41.51 | Fisker | destroying your phone before you have the one you want |
| 12:41.55 | Fisker | zero profit |
| 12:42.10 | Fisker | but I guess if you solved problem one you also solved problem two |
| 12:52.10 | znf | I would destroy my blackberry bold 9700 for that! |
| 12:52.16 | znf | but, not my iphone |
| 12:52.17 | znf | fuck that |
| 12:52.24 | znf | goes to sleep |
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| 13:17.14 | Repo | smartres2: 03myrroddin * r301 SmartRes2.lua: |
| 13:17.14 | Repo | - Workaround Blizzard not knowing how to pass a nil value to UnitName, which fixes the error during Mass Resurrection |
| 13:17.14 | Repo | - Updated localizations |
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| 13:32.45 | Workfoz | Fisker: ty... kind of annoying, even though I know why it is that way :D |
| 13:33.13 | Fisker | huh? |
| 13:33.27 | Fisker | oh |
| 13:34.38 | Workfoz | the status bar volume drag thing |
| 13:34.43 | Workfoz | (yes, late, but... busy busy) |
| 13:34.53 | nevcairiel | its friday, go home already |
| 13:34.57 | nevcairiel | its surprise wildstar weekend |
| 13:35.20 | nevcairiel | (they finally learned and send a mail about that!) |
| 13:35.21 | Workfoz | I'm aware |
| 13:35.43 | Workfoz | should have gone up half an hour ago, right? |
| 13:36.03 | Workfoz | I need to buy groceries and stuff before, anyway |
| 13:36.08 | nevcairiel | i thought in half an hour |
| 13:36.12 | nevcairiel | but $timezones |
| 13:36.34 | Workfoz | they actually state CEST |
| 13:37.06 | wink | surprise weekend? |
| 13:37.13 | haste | it's never suprise weekend! |
| 13:37.19 | wink | I got my key on wednesday |
| 13:37.42 | nevcairiel | Workfoz: my mail was in PDT :( |
| 13:38.00 | Workfoz | well, I only checked forums/twitter, saw it before the email was sent :D |
| 13:38.10 | Workfoz | wink: are you on Orias? |
| 13:38.16 | Workfoz | or some other server |
| 13:38.26 | wink | Workfoz: I havent played since first stress tets |
| 13:38.27 | nevcairiel | wink: as in it wasnt planned and they send a mail around wednesday or so |
| 13:38.46 | wink | Here's Your WildStar Key for This Weekend! |
| 13:38.57 | wink | I am not officially ion the beta |
| 13:39.00 | wink | as in permanent |
| 13:39.03 | wink | if that exists |
| 13:39.03 | Workfoz | they said they'd invite *everyone* who signed up for the beta at any point |
| 13:39.06 | wink | my 2nd key ever |
| 13:39.11 | Workfoz | it doesn't anymore, no |
| 13:39.13 | wink | anyway, gotta run :) |
| 13:39.25 | Workfoz | closed/permanent beta was over in march or so |
| 13:39.57 | nevcairiel | yeah they only do these weekends now, which is really just a way to have a "demo" of sorts for the masses |
| 13:46.17 | Sinaloit | Morning Nevcairiel |
| 13:53.15 | Sinaloit | Well morning for me anyway. Question regarding Ace3, is it okay to port parts of it over to WildStar as long as the 4 clause BSD license is used and that it originally came from Ace3? |
| 13:58.29 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 13:58.31 | Fisker | btw Stanzilla |
| 13:58.35 | haste | hey Fisker |
| 13:58.36 | Fisker | You can't even smash your N4 for it :/ |
| 13:58.47 | Workfoz | ~ugt |
| 13:58.48 | purl | from memory, ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 13:59.14 | Sinaloit | lol |
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| 14:04.02 | Fisker | I miss nevcairiel |
| 14:05.20 | nevcairiel | Sinaloit: go nuts |
| 14:09.03 | Sinaloit | Cool thanks |
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| 14:21.05 | Workfoz | sinaloit, preparing to rake in curse points \o/ |
| 14:22.45 | nevcairiel | libraries dont really yield *that* many, ace3 itself is pretty good, but that is because WoW has an extremely huge userbase and ace3 is rather widely used .. smaller libs yield maybe a few points |
| 14:25.50 | nevcairiel | i wonder how many of the ace3 points are from people running disembedded, as that would yield it full points instead of only the library share |
| 14:28.36 | nevcairiel | man i misread the specs for the cpu cooler i bought, i thought it had PWM fans .. oh well, 2 replacement fans coming up |
| 14:39.19 | Workfoz | haha |
| 14:39.22 | Workfoz | bwwwwwwwwt |
| 14:39.54 | Workfoz | actually, my PC is quite loud these days, I don't really want to look into why |
| 14:40.11 | nevcairiel | well temporarily it can use voltage to limit the speed, but pwm just works better |
| 14:40.20 | nevcairiel | and i've been working on making things quieter |
| 14:40.34 | nevcairiel | probably bought 10 or so fans the last two weeks to replace the ones in my server and my pc |
| 14:44.05 | Workfoz | I would have to at least replace the two front fans (I think they're ones that came with the case) and the one on my radiator |
| 14:44.22 | Workfoz | but... that one has pretty high air pressure, which is hard to find |
| 14:44.40 | nevcairiel | if you need that high pressure |
| 14:45.37 | nevcairiel | i've been using noctua fans, which are really quite good, they have different models for case ventilation and for cpu coolers or radiators, as the later needs higher static pressure |
| 14:49.49 | Workfoz | yeah |
| 14:49.54 | Workfoz | I should look it up |
| 14:50.02 | Workfoz | the static pressure value, that is |
| 14:55.23 | nevcairiel | sometime ago i was looking for a high volume/high pressure fan, because one system had a few heat issues due to a too small heat sink, that was actually pretty hard |
| 14:55.34 | nevcairiel | everyone builds quiet fans |
| 14:56.17 | Workfoz | yep |
| 14:56.34 | nevcairiel | i found some fan then, man that thing sure is loud, but it did the job |
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| 15:07.59 | Workfoz | w00t |
| 15:08.00 | Workfoz | weekend |
| 15:08.09 | Workfoz | I forgot we only have to stay until 17:00 now |
| 15:08.10 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:18.16 | quiescens | givs bluspacecow a cookie |
| 17:28.03 | Humbedooh | noms said cookie |
| 17:28.57 | quiescens | o.o |
| 17:29.28 | quiescens | gives bluspacecow a replacement cookie |
| 17:29.29 | Humbedooh | I have a butter knife...don't make me stab you, quiescens |
| 17:30.56 | pompy | lols znf |
| 17:31.03 | pompy | the oneplus one phone |
| 17:31.29 | pompy | in order to get the phone .. well of the 100 of the many they receive anyway... you have to show them smashing your current phone |
| 17:32.05 | bluspacecow | *plunges hand into Humbedooh’s stomach* |
| 17:32.09 | bluspacecow | *rescues cookie* |
| 17:32.13 | bluspacecow | *eats both cookies* |
| 17:32.29 | Humbedooh | ;O |
| 17:33.32 | znf | pompy, yeah, doesn't matter |
| 17:33.38 | znf | still, 299€ for the 64GB one... is yum |
| 17:33.44 | bluspacecow | dont eat ma cookie then |
| 17:36.30 | Humbedooh | ate another cookie |
| 17:36.39 | bluspacecow | well |
| 17:36.43 | bluspacecow | that wasn’t ma cookie |
| 17:36.54 | Humbedooh | indeed |
| 17:39.02 | znf | http://www.pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/tumblr_n4kamtZuf51s30rzoo1_500-1.jpg |
| 17:39.21 | Ressy | lol |
| 17:40.30 | znf | damn it,I knew I forgot to buy something yesterday at the store |
| 18:14.42 | quiescens | cookies? |
| 18:20.17 | Stanzilla | znf: did you report the bug yet |
| 18:20.23 | znf | Stanzilla, yeah |
| 18:20.30 | Stanzilla | link |
| 18:20.54 | znf | https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=366983&can=8&colspec=ID%20Pri%20M%20Iteration%20ReleaseBlock%20Cr%20Status%20Owner%20Summary%20OS%20Modified |
| 18:21.27 | znf | Even Firefox has issues |
| 18:21.58 | Stanzilla | report it there, too |
| 18:22.08 | znf | will do, gotta check RAM now |
| 18:22.08 | znf | bbl |
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| 19:24.22 | Fisker | asd fgsfds |
| 19:24.26 | Fisker | noone can stop me |
| 19:26.23 | znf | so, Stanzilla, be happy for me |
| 19:26.25 | znf | new pc tomorow! |
| 19:26.34 | Stanzilla | did you sell your kidney? |
| 19:26.37 | znf | no |
| 19:26.48 | znf | if I had, I would have gotten an i7 :P |
| 19:27.30 | Stanzilla | what did you do then |
| 19:27.36 | Fisker | have sex with men |
| 19:28.09 | znf | a friend of mine offered to buy me the kit in exchange for other services I keep helping him with (fix a wordpress plugin, install something on his webserver etc.) |
| 19:28.28 | Fisker | hax |
| 19:28.46 | nevcairiel | too bad, i thought we would finally get rid of znf an account of him stopping to play because 1fps |
| 19:29.08 | znf | nevcairiel, I actually get 12fps now! |
| 19:29.12 | znf | since I found the AMD issue |
| 19:29.24 | nevcairiel | why would you always have a video open anyway |
| 19:29.46 | znf | sometimes the flash in chrome likes to keep the gpu busy, it seems |
| 19:29.55 | znf | even if there's no video tab opened |
| 19:31.28 | znf | in other news, my current mobo's 4th dimm slot is dead, suddenly :-/ |
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| 19:38.05 | Gnarfoz | I wonder |
| 19:38.18 | wink | why |
| 19:38.25 | Gnarfoz | exactly |
| 19:38.38 | wink | :( |
| 19:38.44 | Gnarfoz | why does Alice/O2 run my DSL as Annex B |
| 19:39.18 | Gnarfoz | when I don't have actual telephony? |
| 19:39.25 | Gnarfoz | (probably denglisch) |
| 19:39.44 | Gnarfoz | i.e. it's NGN/VoIP, PPPoE with multiple virtual circuits |
| 19:39.49 | nevcairiel | do they run any annexj? |
| 19:39.50 | wink | wikipedia says it sounds ok |
| 19:39.52 | Gnarfoz | they could/should do Annex J |
| 19:39.56 | bluspacecow | it sounds ..... |
| 19:40.00 | bluspacecow | nommy Gnarfoz |
| 19:40.03 | bluspacecow | *eats it* |
| 19:40.13 | Gnarfoz | is full of freedom fries |
| 19:40.13 | wink | J: Diese Variante wird z. B. von der Deutschen Telekom für splitterloses DSL verwendet. |
| 19:40.21 | Gnarfoz | wink: precisely |
| 19:40.23 | wink | Auch bei den ADSL-Weiterentwicklungen ADSL2/2+ gemäß ITU G.992.3 und G.992.5 beschreibt Annex B die Spezifikation für den Betrieb an ISDN-Anschlüssen mit eingeschränktem DSL-Frequenzband. |
| 19:40.26 | wink | sounds ok though |
| 19:40.34 | Gnarfoz | it's ok in that it works |
| 19:40.37 | Gnarfoz | but it's wasteful |
| 19:40.38 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: do you have VDSL now? |
| 19:40.50 | nevcairiel | VDSL is always Annex B for some weird technical reasons |
| 19:41.01 | Gnarfoz | is it? interesting |
| 19:41.02 | nevcairiel | (but you still dont need a splitter) |
| 19:41.03 | Gnarfoz | but no. |
| 19:41.09 | Gnarfoz | next friday |
| 19:41.38 | Gnarfoz | but 1&1 apparently is competent enough to send the hardware ahead of the date |
| 19:42.05 | Gnarfoz | so I swapped it in to see if it's healthy |
| 19:42.14 | wink | omnomnom dsl |
| 19:42.15 | Gnarfoz | (it werx) |
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| 19:42.24 | Gnarfoz | I even got my phone to work |
| 19:42.46 | wink | didnt you say you dont have any? |
| 19:42.48 | Gnarfoz | which is something O2 doesn't want me to be able to do |
| 19:42.52 | wink | what'd you mean then? :D |
| 19:43.10 | Gnarfoz | wink: Annex A/B leaves some space in the frequency spectrum for POTS/ISDN |
| 19:43.11 | nevcairiel | all I find when i google for o2 annex j is people asking when o2 will start offering annex J |
| 19:43.13 | Gnarfoz | Annex J doesn't |
| 19:43.13 | nevcairiel | maybe they just dont |
| 19:43.34 | wink | I never thought about this since.. probably 1998 |
| 19:43.36 | wink | when I got ISDN |
| 19:43.49 | wink | internet is like power. |
| 19:43.53 | wink | plug in, works :D |
| 19:43.57 | Gnarfoz | and since Alice only offers connections with "real" telephone lines in... Hamburg, basically? (i.e. where Hansenet operated) |
| 19:44.10 | nevcairiel | I had one at least |
| 19:44.16 | Gnarfoz | everyone who's somewhere else gets NGN |
| 19:44.16 | nevcairiel | until i went pink |
| 19:45.24 | Gnarfoz | which means that you get an integrated access device (IAD) which you "have to" use, and that one is (apparently, splitter,) ADSL modem, router, VoIP bridge etc all in one |
| 19:45.30 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: even in december 2013 people asked O2 when Annex J would be offered for better upload possibilities, and the answer was mostly "the general public doesn't care, so we wont spend money" |
| 19:45.40 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: sounds like o2 |
| 19:45.43 | Gnarfoz | or rather, Telefonica |
| 19:45.56 | Gnarfoz | they're deep in debt, don't expect them to spend any money on anything |
| 19:46.47 | Gnarfoz | wink: as you can see, the POTS/ISDN frequencies that Annex A/B leave free are wasted in this scenario |
| 19:47.09 | Gnarfoz | so... they could just use Annex J et voilá, more bandwidth |
| 19:47.12 | Gnarfoz | but, they don't. :D |
| 19:47.53 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: o2 Kündigungsabteilung guy almost convinced me to cancel it all and wait ;D |
| 19:48.13 | nevcairiel | huh |
| 19:48.25 | Gnarfoz | ("it" being my move to 1&1) |
| 19:48.46 | nevcairiel | this is why i send them formal letters about this shit instead of talking |
| 19:48.53 | Gnarfoz | hm? |
| 19:49.00 | Gnarfoz | you misunderstand |
| 19:49.03 | nevcairiel | those guys are always annoying :p |
| 19:49.36 | Gnarfoz | this is the "oh, you cancelled? let us offer you something, maybe you can reconsider" after-the-fact guys |
| 19:49.37 | wink | Gnarfoz: not sure if that would be a case of "we just do it like that to have all x thousand installations be the same." like.. ISDN? yes/no -> X/Y |
| 19:49.47 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: yeah, those are annoying |
| 19:50.02 | Gnarfoz | well, they just sent an email and a letter -- I called them |
| 19:50.06 | Gnarfoz | I could have just not done that |
| 19:50.14 | Gnarfoz | but I wanted to check out what they had in mind |
| 19:50.26 | nevcairiel | they tried to call me when i transfered my mobile contract |
| 19:50.35 | wink | Gnarfoz: hehe, when I moved from eplus, they called and asked, I said it's because of the shit quality. It dropped mid-call, he didnt try again |
| 19:50.45 | nevcairiel | but little did they know that i didnt switch to safe money, i switched because their network fucking sucks these days |
| 19:50.53 | Gnarfoz | (well, I unchecked "call" for everything -- they actually respect those settings) |
| 19:52.01 | Gnarfoz | I told the lady who I had to call to confirm my cancellation (easiest way to do it... click "gtfo, I'm out of here" on the website, which flags your account for termination, and you have to call (free) number to confirm) |
| 19:52.20 | nevcairiel | they have a cancel button on the website now? |
| 19:52.24 | Gnarfoz | that I'm leaving because they don't offer VDSL (yet) here, and their new plans are all 300GB then 2 Mbit/s blah |
| 19:52.27 | Gnarfoz | yes |
| 19:52.34 | nevcairiel | usually they avoid that to make it a bit harder, and deter a few people |
| 19:52.55 | Gnarfoz | (they're not even allowed to do that - but I don't know how long that option has been there) |
| 19:53.19 | Gnarfoz | anyway... I told her that; either she didn't write it down, or the Treue-Angebot guy didn't bother readin git |
| 19:53.39 | Gnarfoz | however, after I explained it to him, he said I could get around their new DSL plans by just ordering the VDSL option ontop of my current plan |
| 19:53.56 | Gnarfoz | which would leave me with my old "flat, no caps" plan + vdsl speed |
| 19:54.09 | nevcairiel | i thought they dont have vdsl at your place |
| 19:54.10 | Gnarfoz | (and he offered to waive the vdsl speed option for the first year) |
| 19:54.14 | znf | Gnarfoz, when will you guys ever get FTTB? :-/ |
| 19:54.19 | Gnarfoz | znf: never? :D |
| 19:54.32 | znf | or FTTH |
| 19:54.34 | wink | Fiber to the Vein |
| 19:54.40 | znf | do you live in an apt building? |
| 19:54.58 | Gnarfoz | contrary to poor countries, we have near 100% copper penetration |
| 19:55.02 | wink | hm. can you serve yum noodles in an apt building? |
| 19:55.06 | Gnarfoz | so they're milking it for every last mbit |
| 19:55.26 | znf | sucks :( |
| 19:55.37 | wink | copper fiber is best fiber! |
| 19:55.55 | Gnarfoz | it's apparently still cheaper for them to dig up the streets, put ugly grey boxes every ~300 m, connect *those* with fiber and then hook people up via VDSL |
| 19:55.56 | wink | znf: I think it's because of our quasi-monopoly and the long history of Deutsche Post/Telekom :D |
| 19:55.58 | nevcairiel | FTTB or FTTH is only done by a few local ISPs (and usually only for new buildings, and only if enough interest is present), and in select areas by the larger ISPs, but hardly wide spread |
| 19:56.03 | Gnarfoz | (which is... what FTTC is) |
| 19:56.43 | Gnarfoz | I do wonder why they don't offer more FTTBasement |
| 19:56.50 | Gnarfoz | in big buildings |
| 19:57.03 | Gnarfoz | or even 6, 8, 10 tenant apartment buildings |
| 19:57.27 | nevcairiel | they probably might if you pay them for it |
| 19:57.28 | Gnarfoz | probably because most people don't give a shit, and it's only economically viable if they get >75% or whatever |
| 19:58.04 | nevcairiel | its not like we have crappy internet with VDSL |
| 19:58.13 | znf | VDSL is symetrical, right? |
| 19:58.15 | Gnarfoz | no |
| 19:58.25 | znf | oh :-/ |
| 19:58.26 | Gnarfoz | at least, nobody here runs it that way |
| 19:58.42 | nevcairiel | people always make a big fuzz about that, but really, who uploads that much stuff |
| 19:58.46 | Gnarfoz | I'm not sure if it's possible (it probably is) |
| 19:59.01 | silentium | theoretically it could be, it all depends on which/how many frequencies are used for up and downstream |
| 19:59.02 | wink | I wonder if you can order 2 VDSL lines and just tell them to reverse one ;) |
| 19:59.12 | Gnarfoz | you can tell them, they won't do it, though |
| 19:59.23 | znf | UPLOAD IZ EXPENSIVE HURR DURR |
| 19:59.24 | Gnarfoz | they offer business connections for that :D |
| 19:59.26 | wink | nevcairiel: imho there's a reason why office lines tend to be symmetrical |
| 19:59.32 | silentium | they'd haev to reconfigure their DSLAM for your port |
| 19:59.40 | nevcairiel | wink: i dont run a office in my home though =P |
| 19:59.44 | Gnarfoz | sounds scary. |
| 19:59.55 | znf | one of our biggest ISPs is installing GPON devices thingies (not sure how they're called) straight in peoples homes |
| 19:59.57 | Gnarfoz | it's not like that's a 5 minute job *oh wait it is* |
| 20:00.12 | Gnarfoz | znf: that's what they *should* be doing :| |
| 20:00.15 | wink | nevcairiel: yes. but in my experience the morepeople the more you'd have relatively more upload as with a single user and thus congestion |
| 20:00.23 | *** join/#wowace randon (4e6692b0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.102.146.176) |
| 20:00.27 | wink | if you get what I mean |
| 20:00.46 | Gnarfoz | http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/State-of-the-Internet-Schnellere-Verbindungen-mehr-IPv6-Glasfaserdrossel-in-Deutschland-2176430.html?view=zoom;zoom=4 |
| 20:00.49 | randon | hey guys! is there some wow addons veteran around here? |
| 20:00.50 | Gnarfoz | znf: ^ |
| 20:00.57 | randon | *developer |
| 20:01.10 | Gnarfoz | never mind that it's in German -- point is, Romania is the highest rated European country on that list |
| 20:01.12 | wink | people still developing wow addons? I am shocked |
| 20:01.14 | znf | wat |
| 20:01.18 | znf | we're so low at #7? |
| 20:01.23 | Gnarfoz | that's *world wide* |
| 20:01.27 | wink | yeah, more cybercrime, gogo |
| 20:01.30 | Gnarfoz | #7 ain't shabby |
| 20:01.32 | znf | yeah, so low! |
| 20:01.53 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: they should factor in the cost per mbit or so, that might be interesting |
| 20:01.59 | Gnarfoz | for a place that consists of vampires, scammers and vacation spots! :P |
| 20:02.11 | znf | I'll repeat the fact that I pay 8€ for 100Mbit :P |
| 20:02.22 | nevcairiel | znf: but 8€ is also what you make in a month |
| 20:02.22 | wink | :( |
| 20:02.26 | Gnarfoz | I was going to say... I know it's utterly cheap |
| 20:02.53 | Gnarfoz | znf: in the spirit of 7 degrees of Kevin Bacon... I'm only one degree from someone with FTTH. My brother has 100/50 fiber (and they offer 200/100, too) |
| 20:03.00 | wink | maybe my usage is atypical.. but I was nearly happy with 16 MBit |
| 20:03.10 | wink | now 50 is.. nice, but absolutely not needed |
| 20:03.13 | wink | for 2 people |
| 20:03.16 | *** join/#wowace Venara (~Venara@95.44.83.252) |
| 20:03.20 | Gnarfoz | still, even there, where it utterly doesn't matter, they still do that dumb asymmetrical thing |
| 20:03.36 | znf | another ISP offers gigabit for 14€ |
| 20:03.51 | znf | or 500Mbit for 11€ |
| 20:04.00 | nevcairiel | i'm perfectly content with my 50/10 line. Sometimes a bit more upload would be nice, but really thats just me being impatient for 3 seconds :p |
| 20:04.07 | Gnarfoz | wink: I'm looking forward to not clogging up my connection for so long when sending photos around anymore. And maybe I can even afford to upload some videos! :D |
| 20:04.12 | znf | biggest issue with the 500/1000mbit lines is that they use PPPoE |
| 20:04.19 | znf | and most routers melt at 400Mbit/s :-/ |
| 20:04.22 | Gnarfoz | O_O |
| 20:04.24 | Gnarfoz | haha |
| 20:04.25 | Gnarfoz | well |
| 20:04.27 | Gnarfoz | GPON |
| 20:04.28 | Gnarfoz | \o/ |
| 20:04.31 | wink | Gnarfoz: I dont do that, yeah. we basically just patch MMO clients and I sometimes download OS isos |
| 20:04.46 | znf | So they actually started giving tested routers for something like 1-2€ extra per month |
| 20:04.58 | Primer | nebula169: sigh...you PB4 bosses changes still aren't merged with upstream? |
| 20:05.26 | Gnarfoz | haha |
| 20:05.37 | znf | they're actually mentioning that you need a Core i7 for 1000Mbit |
| 20:05.39 | znf | damn PPPoE... |
| 20:05.40 | Gnarfoz | I just wanted to say "randon: ~ask2ask" |
| 20:05.42 | Gnarfoz | but he's gone |
| 20:06.11 | znf | wait, how exactly is the US @ #1 in that ranking? |
| 20:06.21 | znf | doesn't their internet suck balls? |
| 20:06.26 | Primer | I revert to using PB4 from CC to see if perhaps it was your branch that was causing the problem I'm seeing but the problem persisted. I did notice that the boss frames weren't there though. In fact, they were replaced with my raid group...I discovered this when I joined an AV... |
| 20:07.40 | nevcairiel | znf: its just extremely expensive for proper contracts |
| 20:07.46 | nevcairiel | also its #10 |
| 20:07.47 | Gnarfoz | wink: obviously everybody does different things, but I can't deny the fact that having crappy internet actually influences what you want to do, or even imagine doing |
| 20:08.06 | znf | tbh, it kind of caps out at 100Mbit |
| 20:08.14 | Gnarfoz | i.e. "nah, why should I make a video of this, I can't share it with anyone anyway!" |
| 20:08.17 | znf | first month I had 100Mbit I was all "OMG OMG MUST DOWNLOAD EVERYTHING" |
| 20:08.46 | wink | Gnarfoz: yeah sure. but so many people as if it was a crime against humanity to only offer 16 mbit |
| 20:08.57 | Gnarfoz | well |
| 20:09.01 | wink | Gnarfoz: and that programmers and power users "cannot work ffs!!1" |
| 20:09.02 | Gnarfoz | loud minority and all that |
| 20:09.07 | wink | nope |
| 20:09.14 | wink | loud majority in that case |
| 20:09.24 | znf | 16Mbit is... slow |
| 20:09.25 | nevcairiel | programmers and power users are not the majority |
| 20:09.26 | znf | really slow :P |
| 20:09.30 | wink | but I know people who really manage to download many TB a month |
| 20:09.32 | wink | every month |
| 20:09.36 | Gnarfoz | if there was an actual majority, it would have an effect on what the ISPs offer |
| 20:09.53 | silentium | "up to 16 MBit" even |
| 20:09.55 | znf | what upstream do you get if your download is 16Mbit? |
| 20:10.00 | Gnarfoz | 1, most of the time |
| 20:10.03 | znf | oh dear $deity |
| 20:10.06 | wink | I usually had 16 |
| 20:10.06 | nevcairiel | 1 or 1.5 if you're lucky |
| 20:10.08 | Gnarfoz | "up to 1", that is |
| 20:10.20 | Gnarfoz | wink: 16/16? I think you misunderstood him |
| 20:10.44 | wink | Gnarfoz: was "up to 16" - only down, but I could not complain |
| 20:10.48 | nevcairiel | nothing like those cable lines that used to be 100/1 for a while :p |
| 20:10.50 | wink | my neighbors seem to be offliners ;) |
| 20:10.58 | znf | before 802.11n became popular, I got pissed every time I was capping 802.11g at 20Mbit/s |
| 20:11.10 | znf | Upload a 10MB attachment to that e-mail? |
| 20:11.13 | znf | Feels like hours! |
| 20:11.27 | Gnarfoz | I heard KabelBW plans to roll out DOCSIS 3.1 and (not sure if that's directly related) offering 40 Mbit/s upload |
| 20:11.39 | Gnarfoz | probably to compete with vectoring vdsl |
| 20:11.49 | Gnarfoz | which is planned for ~autumn 2014 |
| 20:12.00 | znf | Anything less than 8mbit upload gets me pissed off :( |
| 20:12.00 | nevcairiel | I was on 3mbit at my parents for years in some small town where nothing more was possible, going to 16mbit from that and 50 a year later was such a relief |
| 20:12.01 | Gnarfoz | (and is planned to be 100/40) |
| 20:12.03 | nevcairiel | now 3mbit truely is slow |
| 20:12.19 | znf | I guess it's how you get used to faster connections |
| 20:12.31 | znf | once high-speed becomes the norm for you, everything slower feels painful |
| 20:12.44 | Gnarfoz | anyway, good thing Alice uses unencrypted SIP |
| 20:12.45 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 20:13.06 | znf | when I got 100Mbit first, I was actually getting pissed when I found websites that couldn't "fill my pipe" because their servers were running on slower connections |
| 20:13.26 | nevcairiel | generally as long as I can browse without big interruptions and waits, its all fine. With my 50 line i dont even notice when something is downloading in the background |
| 20:13.39 | nevcairiel | thats just luxus :po |
| 20:14.16 | silentium | znf: already had that when DTAG first launched ADSL with 768 kbit ;) |
| 20:14.27 | Gnarfoz | I got the necessary login/connection data for my VoIP by: factory resetting the device, enabling the hidden "expert mode", going to the hidden traffic capture page, doing the phone setup thing and then inspecting all that with Wireshark |
| 20:14.28 | znf | remember where you had to make a choice between downloading a file or play an online game? |
| 20:14.39 | Gnarfoz | znf: you mean... today? |
| 20:14.44 | nevcairiel | silentium: wasnt it 1mbit at launch already |
| 20:14.50 | znf | uhm, no? :( |
| 20:14.51 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: nope |
| 20:14.55 | znf | that was 5+ years ago for me |
| 20:14.55 | silentium | nevcairiel: not in 2001, no |
| 20:15.04 | Gnarfoz | znf: that's very much a daily occurence for me, still |
| 20:15.17 | znf | Ouch |
| 20:15.50 | nevcairiel | with most things you wouldnt even notice if it can serve at 100mbit, until you maybe start downloading something quite a bit larger |
| 20:15.54 | Gnarfoz | one thing that's weird with this 1&1 branded FritzBox |
| 20:16.06 | Gnarfoz | Windows won't let me make it a "private network" or name it |
| 20:16.18 | Gnarfoz | it's stuck on "Network 15, public network" |
| 20:16.31 | nevcairiel | your fritzbox is its own network? |
| 20:16.32 | znf | I set all my networks as "work" so I don't have to deal with Homegroup |
| 20:16.42 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: hm? no |
| 20:16.46 | nevcairiel | znf: you can just disable the homegroup services, and it'll stop bugging you |
| 20:16.58 | nevcairiel | and even vanish in the explorer tree |
| 20:16.58 | Gnarfoz | "deal with Homegroup" how? |
| 20:17.04 | Gnarfoz | you can just... not join one? |
| 20:17.05 | znf | Gnarfoz, "would you like to join homegroup?" |
| 20:17.19 | Gnarfoz | do you get some nag screen or what? I don't |
| 20:17.24 | Gnarfoz | (and never have) |
| 20:17.29 | znf | I get it once! |
| 20:17.30 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: well i can't name my networks either for some reason, but there is a way to re-classify them |
| 20:17.58 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: it all depends on if Windows can recognize the default gateway |
| 20:17.59 | Gnarfoz | afaik |
| 20:18.06 | wink | my group is CHAOS since 1997 |
| 20:18.15 | Gnarfoz | or rather, it attaches those settings to the default gateway |
| 20:18.15 | wink | lan party incl. my first NIC ever bought |
| 20:18.31 | znf | huh, why am I transferring stuff at 50mbps |
| 20:18.38 | znf | 70mbps |
| 20:18.54 | nevcairiel | huh interesting, my samsung printer speaks ipv6 |
| 20:18.56 | Gnarfoz | http://i.imgur.com/n2cvtAe.png |
| 20:19.03 | Gnarfoz | (just to make sure we're talking about the same thing) |
| 20:19.04 | znf | wish my ISp would offer ipv6 already! :( |
| 20:19.06 | nevcairiel | i was like, wtf is this second printer in my network place |
| 20:19.14 | nevcairiel | but windows shows it twice, once v4 and v6 |
| 20:19.19 | Gnarfoz | I wonder if 1&1 does v6, yet |
| 20:19.21 | *** join/#wowace Funkeh` (~Funkeh`@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Ace3/BigWigs/funkeh) |
| 20:19.22 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Funkeh`] by ChanServ |
| 20:19.42 | znf | Gnarfoz, hmmm, in Win7 you could click the icon and reclasify it |
| 20:19.51 | Gnarfoz | same in win 8 |
| 20:19.57 | Gnarfoz | just not since I swapped the devices |
| 20:19.57 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 20:20.06 | znf | I can't seem to be able to do it in win8.1 |
| 20:20.12 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: there is a bit more convoluted way to do it |
| 20:20.13 | Gnarfoz | the other one is "private" and has a custom name |
| 20:20.22 | Gnarfoz | I'll try reconnecting it first |
| 20:20.23 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 20:20.25 | Gnarfoz | so... brb |
| 20:21.15 | wink | Gnarfoz: of the big ones, usually only mnet |
| 20:22.06 | Fisker | Go to the homegroup settings Gnarfoz |
| 20:22.06 | nevcairiel | tkom has v6 for ip contracts |
| 20:22.15 | Fisker | That should help you out |
| 20:23.05 | Gnarfoz | hm. |
| 20:23.18 | Gnarfoz | I wonder if it's because of "Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes" |
| 20:23.58 | nevcairiel | isnt that just dhcp |
| 20:24.03 | Gnarfoz | not sure |
| 20:24.10 | nevcairiel | mine says the same, and is private |
| 20:27.19 | Gnarfoz | found it |
| 20:27.29 | Gnarfoz | http://i.imgur.com/A1AO8G3.png |
| 20:27.34 | znf | I should disable the advertisement of IPv6 in my lan |
| 20:27.36 | Gnarfoz | (the right half) |
| 20:27.54 | znf | wonders why Gnarfoz has 5 partitions |
| 20:27.58 | Gnarfoz | partitions?! |
| 20:28.00 | znf | I mean, C: is probably your whole SSD |
| 20:28.06 | znf | the others are individual hdds? |
| 20:28.07 | Gnarfoz | those are drives, sweetie :D |
| 20:28.08 | nevcairiel | thats drives |
| 20:28.12 | znf | dynamic drive! |
| 20:28.22 | Gnarfoz | I never figured out what that shit is supposed to do for me |
| 20:28.27 | Gnarfoz | never gave me more options :D |
| 20:28.38 | Gnarfoz | anyway, they're 4 RAID 1s |
| 20:28.46 | znf | Ah |
| 20:28.58 | Gnarfoz | (yeah, wasteful, but... I don't trust consumer HDDs anymore. :D) |
| 20:29.02 | znf | Dynamic disks provide features that basic disks do not, such as the ability to create volumes that span multiple disks (spanned and striped volumes) and the ability to create fault-tolerant volumes (mirrored and RAID-5 volumes). |
| 20:29.14 | Gnarfoz | well, desktop windows doesn't do raid 5 |
| 20:29.16 | znf | So, something like software raid :P |
| 20:29.18 | Gnarfoz | that's windows server only |
| 20:29.27 | Gnarfoz | they're actually all "dynamic" |
| 20:29.34 | nevcairiel | dynamic discs are annoying, you get all kinds of problems if you have to reinstall your OS |
| 20:29.36 | Gnarfoz | and I use Windows's RAID1 |
| 20:29.43 | Gnarfoz | you do? |
| 20:29.45 | Gnarfoz | hm. |
| 20:29.50 | Gnarfoz | well, the SSD isn't |
| 20:29.58 | wink | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_cCsFU6pak been a while |
| 20:30.00 | nevcairiel | didnt reinstall yet since you created the dynamic discs? |
| 20:30.05 | Gnarfoz | nope |
| 20:30.12 | Gnarfoz | I upgraded 7 -> 8 :D |
| 20:30.13 | nevcairiel | well, good luck then :D |
| 20:30.23 | nevcairiel | maybe they improved it |
| 20:30.28 | nevcairiel | my tests were on XP still |
| 20:30.46 | znf | I /really/ need to upgrade my LAN to Gigabit |
| 20:30.58 | Gnarfoz | ta-da, suddently, I can actually see the fritz box (in... 4 ways, even) |
| 20:31.02 | Gnarfoz | -t |
| 20:31.17 | znf | wonder if mikrotik has a switch with gigabit |
| 20:31.20 | znf | and 802.3af |
| 20:31.38 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: herp derp |
| 20:31.43 | Gnarfoz | I still can't *name* the network, though |
| 20:31.52 | Gnarfoz | but at least it's set to private now |
| 20:31.55 | nevcairiel | even my router has gbit ports these days, if i didnt have my HP switch i could probably run most of my things on the router ports |
| 20:32.05 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: yeah renaming somehow went away |
| 20:32.10 | znf | The RB260GS is a small SOHO switch. It has five Gigabit Ethernet ports and one SFP cage powered by an Atheros Switch Chip. |
| 20:32.11 | nevcairiel | i dont mind, since mine is just called network |
| 20:32.14 | znf | Nice |
| 20:32.15 | nevcairiel | but network 15 is silly :p |
| 20:32.16 | Gnarfoz | :( |
| 20:35.04 | Gnarfoz | gpedit to the rescue |
| 20:35.19 | nevcairiel | i bet there is some netsh command, or a simple regedit place |
| 20:35.29 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I was stumbling through netsh |
| 20:35.36 | Gnarfoz | but gpedit was a lot easier |
| 20:35.36 | znf | I tried understanding netsh |
| 20:35.41 | znf | I gave up :( |
| 20:35.49 | nevcairiel | netsh is extremely powerful, but noone seems to really know it completely |
| 20:35.49 | Gnarfoz | I could have set the network location type there, too |
| 20:36.19 | Gnarfoz | funnily enough, it's just a display name. gpedit still calls it "Network 15" -- oh well, it's just cosmetics anyway |
| 20:36.27 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 20:37.02 | Gnarfoz | and I'll probably have to reboot for the rest of the Windows UI to pick it up -- the only place it changed immediately was Network & Sharing center |
| 20:37.09 | Gnarfoz | windows charms bar thingy hasn't noticed |
| 20:37.27 | nevcairiel | well if you change it through the backdoor, so to speak |
| 20:37.29 | znf | so, will the next windows update give us the actual start menu back? |
| 20:38.56 | Gnarfoz | 8.1u2 is supposed to, yes |
| 20:39.16 | Gnarfoz | this seems kind of silly http://i.imgur.com/JzGgDKn.png |
| 20:39.39 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/wjXGGS3.png |
| 20:39.40 | znf | :-( |
| 20:39.49 | nevcairiel | i turned the nas and media thing off, but thats how it works |
| 20:39.54 | nevcairiel | windows lists it by function |
| 20:39.58 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I know |
| 20:40.24 | wink | Netzwerkerkennung ist deaktiviert |
| 20:40.25 | wink | :P |
| 20:40.32 | wink | who needs that crap |
| 20:40.45 | bluspacecow | it r sleepy tiems |
| 20:41.03 | Gnarfoz | LLDP is ftw |
| 20:41.12 | Gnarfoz | (if you mean that) |
| 20:41.34 | wink | dunno, never saw it on any windows besides mine iirc |
| 20:41.42 | wink | I know my hostnames and ips by heart |
| 20:41.56 | wink | who needs browsing |
| 20:42.00 | nevcairiel | i dont really use it for anything, but i never bothered to turn it off |
| 20:42.07 | wink | I dont think I did |
| 20:42.12 | wink | or I forgot *shrug* |
| 20:42.25 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I don't use it either |
| 20:42.27 | nevcairiel | note that browsing for other Windows PCs is another function |
| 20:42.32 | Gnarfoz | but I have no reason to turn it off, either :D |
| 20:42.59 | Gnarfoz | it's funny enabling it on a LAN party and using other people's Windows Media Player as a UPNP-AV endpoint |
| 20:43.09 | Gnarfoz | suddenly, gabber! |
| 20:43.20 | Gnarfoz | while you're playing some shitty Counter Strike tournament |
| 20:43.21 | nevcairiel | yeah these things are never protected |
| 20:44.29 | Gnarfoz | FritzBox has 1 billion functions |
| 20:44.38 | Gnarfoz | still going through all option screens :D |
| 20:45.20 | nevcairiel | your first? |
| 20:45.36 | Gnarfoz | yep |
| 20:45.54 | Stanzilla | fritzbox > * |
| 20:45.59 | Gnarfoz | I set up a couple of them for relatives and acquaintances over they years, but... that's a couple of years back |
| 20:46.16 | Gnarfoz | haven't used one of the recent ones before, and not for myself in any case |
| 20:46.40 | Gnarfoz | had a "proper" linux router at my parent's |
| 20:46.50 | Gnarfoz | which they'll probably ditch when they switch to VDSL |
| 20:46.58 | Gnarfoz | (well... they don't really have to, but they might) |
| 20:47.36 | nevcairiel | i had one of those |
| 20:47.44 | nevcairiel | but it broke down at some point and i just gave up |
| 20:48.00 | nevcairiel | those old 80gb hdds just dont last for ever |
| 20:48.22 | haste | I had a IBM deathstar in my computer up until last december |
| 20:48.45 | Gnarfoz | I think that one has two 160 GB as a mdadm raid |
| 20:48.56 | Gnarfoz | and the whole thing is encrypted :O |
| 20:49.04 | nevcairiel | your play box? |
| 20:49.10 | Gnarfoz | LUKS, plug in USB fob to boot |
| 20:49.30 | Gnarfoz | kind of, yes |
| 20:49.32 | nevcairiel | seems kinda confusing for a router you leave with your parents, unless they are really tech savvy |
| 20:49.54 | Gnarfoz | haha, yes |
| 20:50.02 | Gnarfoz | they don't really touch it |
| 20:50.05 | Gnarfoz | it just works (tm) |
| 20:50.21 | Gnarfoz | but they know how to boot it in case of power outage or whatever |
| 20:50.46 | Gnarfoz | now I'm reminded that DynDNS has stopped operating their free service |
| 20:50.56 | Gnarfoz | I probably can't even connect to that box easily now |
| 20:51.13 | nevcairiel | my parents just inherited my old openwrt router which serves them well and provides wifi, which they didnt even have before |
| 20:53.04 | Gnarfoz | I never got into that, because of lack of Plasterouter |
| 20:53.16 | Gnarfoz | and the Alice IAD I can't modify |
| 20:54.02 | Gnarfoz | I guess I'll look into what this 7362 SL can do (1&1's middle model, I think) |
| 20:54.14 | nevcairiel | well i wanted a wifi-ap at some point, so i just used it in parallel to my linux router back then |
| 20:54.45 | Gnarfoz | I've got an actual AP for that, hah |
| 20:54.57 | Gnarfoz | which I can now stow away somewhere, I guess |
| 20:55.02 | Gnarfoz | because it's only b/g |
| 20:55.09 | nevcairiel | yeah that one was too |
| 20:55.18 | nevcairiel | it was one of the very first wrt54g |
| 20:55.22 | Gnarfoz | at least the fritzbox is b/g/n, not that I need it for anything |
| 20:55.31 | nevcairiel | which later turned out to be a really good investment |
| 20:55.39 | Gnarfoz | yay, I made it give me a v6 address |
| 20:56.09 | nevcairiel | i had some weird network problems when i tried to use v6 in my local network before I had an external v6 as well |
| 20:56.18 | nevcairiel | not sure if some apps just got seriously confused or something |
| 20:56.45 | nevcairiel | maybe it was unrelated, but i always had a feeling that it was related somehow |
| 20:58.03 | Gnarfoz | ahaha |
| 20:58.05 | Gnarfoz | REALLY bad latency |
| 20:58.24 | Gnarfoz | Ping statistics for fd00::d0bd:39b2:5932:a09f: |
| 20:58.24 | Gnarfoz | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:58.24 | Gnarfoz | Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: |
| 20:58.24 | Gnarfoz | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:58.29 | Gnarfoz | I wonder how it can be that bad |
| 20:58.36 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 20:58.37 | Gnarfoz | (I pinged my phone over v6 from my PC) |
| 20:58.58 | nevcairiel | hm i wonder |
| 20:59.00 | nevcairiel | lets do this |
| 20:59.25 | Gnarfoz | v4 is not much better |
| 20:59.32 | Gnarfoz | probably wifi being an asshole |
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| 20:59.50 | nevcairiel | on which page does it show all v6 devices again, i always fail at finding it |
| 21:00.04 | Gnarfoz | anyway, I wonder if I can find out why the router shows up both as a network infrastructure thing and as an "other device" |
| 21:00.23 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: I'm not sure what you mean |
| 21:00.40 | nevcairiel | there is a fritzbox page where it lists all devices |
| 21:01.04 | Gnarfoz | Heimnetz > Netzwerk? |
| 21:01.18 | nevcairiel | those only show v4 |
| 21:01.20 | nevcairiel | for me |
| 21:02.09 | nevcairiel | did you just type the v6 address in from your phone? :p |
| 21:02.29 | Gnarfoz | yes |
| 21:03.24 | znf | that must have been fun |
| 21:03.36 | Gnarfoz | took all of 10 seconds, no big deal really? :o |
| 21:03.42 | nevcairiel | i get 70-90ms pinging my phone |
| 21:04.19 | Gnarfoz | boo btw, apparently the cable from my... I never know the english word. from where my router is to my PC... never mind |
| 21:04.27 | nevcairiel | 40-50 over v4 |
| 21:04.41 | Gnarfoz | I forgot it doesn't go right into my PC but into a switch where the wifi AP and the PC are connected |
| 21:04.46 | Gnarfoz | and that switch is 100 Mbit/s |
| 21:04.47 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 21:05.01 | Gnarfoz | basically, I've got hobo network |
| 21:05.16 | Gnarfoz | until now, that was appropriate, since I also had hobo internet! |
| 21:05.17 | nevcairiel | also, if phone goes into screen-off mode, pings skyrocket to 300ms :p |
| 21:05.19 | Gnarfoz | but soon... :D |
| 21:05.31 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: power save ftw |
| 21:05.36 | Gnarfoz | (you can turn that off somewhere) |
| 21:05.41 | nevcairiel | but |
| 21:05.42 | Gnarfoz | I wish my wifi wouldn't break all the time |
| 21:05.42 | nevcairiel | why |
| 21:05.43 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 21:06.03 | Gnarfoz | toggle wifi off? stops working entirely |
| 21:06.07 | Gnarfoz | reboot? stops working entirely |
| 21:06.30 | Gnarfoz | I always have to delete /data/.cid.info and reboot to make it work again (and even that doesn't always work on the first try) |
| 21:06.57 | Gnarfoz | not sure if it's something I did (bad flash? something?) or if my phone is just broken |
| 21:06.57 | nevcairiel | i've had gbit network locally for a while now, really helps with having a htpc that pulls movies from network storage |
| 21:07.19 | nevcairiel | do you run custom firmware? |
| 21:07.58 | Gnarfoz | yes, CyanogenMod, but I had the same problem with Samsung stock firmware |
| 21:08.28 | nevcairiel | a friend had a weird issue with his phone recently, when he called someone he couldn't hear them and they couldn't hear him, but it wasn't the speakers or the mic, as they worked when used in other apps |
| 21:08.41 | nevcairiel | it worked for a couple days if he factory reset |
| 21:08.44 | nevcairiel | then it broke again |
| 21:09.22 | nevcairiel | at least service pretty much re placed the phone for him now |
| 21:09.34 | Gnarfoz | saywhat: Die Benutzer richten Sie im Bereich "System / Użytkownik FRITZ!Box / Użytkownik" ein. |
| 21:09.42 | Gnarfoz | what happened there |
| 21:09.43 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 21:09.49 | nevcairiel | polish happend there |
| 21:09.57 | Gnarfoz | apparently so |
| 21:10.22 | nevcairiel | Użytkownik is apparenrlty "Benutzer" |
| 21:10.47 | Funkeh` | spotify removing p2p, netflix looking into adding it, lolz |
| 21:11.10 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: I figured as much |
| 21:11.28 | Gnarfoz | neat, you can add internet radio to fritzbox and can the listen to it over upnp? |
| 21:12.05 | Gnarfoz | not that I see myself ever using that, but I can't say they don't offer everything and the kitchen sink (and this isn't even a top of the line model) =D |
| 21:12.06 | nevcairiel | yeah i saw that function and thought it might be neat, but then i remembered that all of the things that produce audio for me are PCs anyway |
| 21:12.24 | Gnarfoz | pretty much |
| 21:12.28 | Gnarfoz | weird: |
| 21:12.46 | Gnarfoz | turning off Fritz!NAS made the SMB thing disappear (as expected) |
| 21:12.56 | Gnarfoz | but... the media server page says "needs Fritz!NAS enabled" |
| 21:13.02 | Gnarfoz | but the media server is still visible |
| 21:13.07 | Gnarfoz | I want them gooooone |
| 21:13.10 | nevcairiel | maybe windows is just slow? |
| 21:13.21 | nevcairiel | upnp/dlna discovery is sometimes a bit slow |
| 21:13.21 | Gnarfoz | nah |
| 21:13.23 | wink | wildstar no worky |
| 21:13.35 | Gnarfoz | I turned NAS on, MediaServer off and it was gone immediately |
| 21:13.39 | Gnarfoz | wink: nooooo |
| 21:13.43 | nevcairiel | oh,weird |
| 21:13.46 | wink | auth server apparently |
| 21:13.51 | nevcairiel | probably would've vanished on a fritzbox reboot then |
| 21:13.55 | Gnarfoz | probably |
| 21:15.25 | nevcairiel | i have one of those high-end fritzbox models, but i'm not even sure which features i might miss if i didnt |
| 21:15.42 | Gnarfoz | gah |
| 21:15.51 | Gnarfoz | either my fingers have gotten a lot fatter |
| 21:15.51 | Gnarfoz | or |
| 21:16.03 | Gnarfoz | I have something on my phone that reacts to gestures without me knowing about it |
| 21:16.27 | Gnarfoz | I trigger "back" and "recent apps" all the time |
| 21:17.02 | Gnarfoz | (which are the functions I mapped to the touch keys below the screen) |
| 21:17.16 | Gnarfoz | I should turn that mapping off temporarily to narrow it down |
| 21:24.13 | Gnarfoz | "WLAN-Übertragung für Live TV optimieren" |
| 21:24.15 | Gnarfoz | wat? |
| 21:25.25 | nevcairiel | i think that pretty much enables multi-cast for the wifi channel to allow using it for iptv |
| 21:25.50 | nevcairiel | or something like that |
| 21:25.57 | nevcairiel | never wanted to use it |
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| 23:40.16 | znf | Stanzilla, http://i.imgur.com/itENpI3.png |
| 23:40.43 | Ressy | lol |
| 23:41.57 | znf | i30 seconds later |
| 23:41.57 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/OVw5soN.png |
| 23:42.27 | znf | wrong ones! :( |
| 23:42.41 | Stanzilla | 7 jekangbords on one day |
| 23:42.42 | Stanzilla | is my best |
| 23:42.47 | znf | also, I think I used all my quota from kadala this month |
| 23:43.29 | znf | and no tasker and theo :( |
