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| 08:10.07 | mitch0 | ~toc |
| 08:10.07 | purl | The current WoW interface number is 50400, or magical, or apparently very complex. |
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| 08:56.39 | sb | morning |
| 08:57.15 | sb | znf: save that 2eur for a new computer, wildstar wont run on your machine :p |
| 08:57.27 | znf | I know :( |
| 08:58.20 | sb | Workfoz: nah, cancelled spotify, google music again :D |
| 09:01.02 | wink | I haz a spotify lanyard |
| 09:01.33 | wink | but it's going on the "gifts for colleagues" pile along with a few t-shirts and stickers |
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| 10:29.18 | Stanzilla | sneaky znf uses my guild for bug reports |
| 10:29.44 | znf | I don't know other german guilds :P |
| 10:29.49 | Stanzilla | :D |
| 10:34.35 | znf | I have no idea when I last slept :-/ |
| 10:35.08 | Timmeh | what a coincidence, I have no idea when you last slept either. |
| 10:36.59 | znf | but at least I finished my blog's theme |
| 10:37.17 | Timmeh | I should really really work on a website/blog >_> |
| 10:37.17 | Stanzilla | pix |
| 10:37.18 | Timmeh | <_< |
| 10:37.43 | Timmeh | and also what Stanzilla said! |
| 10:37.54 | znf | I had mine for years now |
| 10:38.19 | Timmeh | my website has said for years now that there will "soon" be a blog :-P |
| 10:38.22 | znf | I have the domain since 2004 :P |
| 10:38.35 | znf | I "lost" mine countless times |
| 10:38.47 | znf | http://linge-ma.ws/ |
| 10:39.35 | Timmeh | .ws o_o |
| 10:39.55 | znf | yeah, it was a gift from a friend of mine |
| 10:40.05 | znf | thing is, I have no idea who's been paying for it ever since |
| 10:40.24 | znf | it renewed itself in 2013... |
| 10:40.33 | Timmeh | "renamed" o.o |
| 10:40.53 | znf | no, renewed |
| 10:40.58 | Timmeh | oh sorry |
| 10:41.03 | Timmeh | misread :-D |
| 10:41.04 | znf | it's been onder the same name since it was bought |
| 10:43.32 | Timmeh | interesting :-P |
| 10:44.00 | Timmeh | well, registered to a Terrence Boyd from Alabama |
| 10:44.45 | Timmeh | primary name server is a romanian one, I presume that's managed by you, znf? :_P |
| 10:44.58 | znf | yeah |
| 10:45.14 | znf | I know who's name is registered on... |
| 10:45.21 | Timmeh | yea, I realise that much |
| 10:45.25 | znf | I've been using it for 10 years, you know? :P |
| 10:45.36 | Timmeh | yes yes, like I said: "interesting" :-P |
| 10:45.41 | Timmeh | I was just looking :-P |
| 10:45.51 | znf | also, it's not exactly cheap, last time I checked .ws was freakin' expensive |
| 10:46.02 | znf | until some time ago I was able to change the nameserver(s) |
| 10:46.14 | znf | even though I lost access to that e-mail address years ago |
| 10:46.23 | Timmeh | heh |
| 10:46.30 | znf | but they changed their control panel completely |
| 10:46.31 | znf | so... |
| 10:47.32 | Timmeh | .ws seems 25 EUR/year |
| 10:47.36 | Timmeh | at least at gandi.net |
| 10:47.39 | Timmeh | in case you're interested :-P |
| 10:47.48 | znf | ah, used to be like 50 or 60 |
| 10:48.14 | Timmeh | well, .com is like half that price still, so yea |
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| 10:56.42 | znf | 1pm... I should get some sleep |
| 10:59.09 | Stanzilla | I love sleep |
| 10:59.12 | Stanzilla | it's teh best |
| 11:03.37 | Timmeh | speaking of domains, I hate how slow registrars are when moving domains *away* from them -.- |
| 11:03.44 | Timmeh | or at least the ones I have the pleasure of dealing with |
| 11:04.02 | nevcairiel | just use modern TLDs which have automated migration procedures |
| 11:05.00 | nevcairiel | you know, de com and net domains at least have an authcode, which is all thats needed to transfer one these days |
| 11:09.43 | Timmeh | yup, except it's still the current registrar who has to provide the authcode / EPP code |
| 11:10.30 | nevcairiel | thats only one button away for me :D |
| 11:10.49 | Timmeh | yea, well, there are multiple reasons I'm moving away from this registrar :-D |
| 11:12.16 | Repo | calendarextras: 03oscarucb * r64 Modules/list_status_online.lua: another fix for cross-realm guilds (17 lines trimmed from commit message) |
| 11:12.16 | Repo | The Ambiguate() call only removes realm names from guild toon names that are |
| 11:12.16 | Repo | truly unambiguous. When your guild contains multiple toons with the same name, |
| 11:12.16 | Repo | Ambiguate() does nothing for those and the fully-qualified name remains in |
| 11:16.31 | Stanzilla | revolutionary new shit in Firefox http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCR-IOBBS3M |
| 11:16.55 | Timmeh | amazing |
| 11:17.21 | nevcairiel | the icon animation? :P |
| 11:18.13 | Stanzilla | yes :D |
| 11:33.35 | Workfoz | totally awesome |
| 11:33.55 | Workfoz | kind of confused that the TLS 1.2 support doesn't include AES256 GCM SHA256 |
| 11:34.44 | Workfoz | hm, that's because it doesn't exist... the AES256 GCM one goes with SHA384 |
| 11:34.46 | Workfoz | still |
| 11:41.58 | Stanzilla | Workfoz: man the icon is the best new feature |
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| 12:08.11 | Workfoz | Stanzilla: obviously |
| 12:08.34 | Workfoz | it's been making the rounds in the office... every time it reaches a new room, I hear some cries of amazement |
| 12:23.45 | Stanzilla | I'm so amazed by this nebula169 guy lately |
| 12:37.25 | Workfoz | much bromance |
| 12:37.27 | Workfoz | why |
| 12:40.38 | Megalon | time for a brojob |
| 12:47.05 | Stanzilla | Workfoz: the work he does with branches |
| 12:47.07 | Stanzilla | it's amazing |
| 12:54.55 | Workfoz | branches are amazing? |
| 12:55.58 | nebula169 | made the mistake of sending him a picture of my dick, now all he wants to do is suck it |
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| 13:18.48 | Stanzilla | that sounds wrong |
| 13:26.04 | Stanzilla | if I want to suck on small things, I'd get a lollipop! |
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| 13:45.38 | nevcairiel | uh my cake looks delicious |
| 13:45.44 | nevcairiel | just needs to cool faster! |
| 13:46.29 | Timmeh | cool? cake is awesome when it's still warm out of the oven :_D |
| 13:46.31 | Timmeh | :-D * |
| 13:46.47 | Megalon | needs to cool for the icing |
| 13:46.49 | Megalon | hohoho |
| 13:46.52 | nevcairiel | warm yes, fresh out of oven? damn too hot |
| 13:47.02 | nevcairiel | i mean, i took it out like 10 seconds ago! |
| 13:47.08 | Megalon | take a bite! |
| 13:47.09 | Megalon | for science |
| 13:47.17 | Timmeh | oh ok, you can let it cool down for another 20 seconds then |
| 13:47.40 | Megalon | and those 20s are over just now, so... |
| 13:48.42 | Stanzilla | http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n6lhbk |
| 13:48.44 | Stanzilla | good idea? |
| 13:49.39 | Megalon | will they implement #stupiddeathscausebyplayersbeinggiantretards? |
| 14:05.56 | Workfoz | nevcairiel: stop ruining my rating! :P |
| 14:06.15 | nevcairiel | stop failing! |
| 14:06.33 | Workfoz | stop having a high enough rating that losing to you actually has a negative effect :D |
| 14:06.40 | Workfoz | most others are like +4 -4 |
| 14:07.15 | nevcairiel | hehe yeah winning is always like +20 with you |
| 14:08.09 | nevcairiel | my rating is only 1600 something |
| 14:11.21 | Workfoz | 1883 |
| 14:11.50 | Workfoz | 197 games, still haven't gotten one with 18 points |
| 14:11.54 | Workfoz | best was 17 |
| 14:12.39 | nevcairiel | now i screwed up. :p |
| 14:12.53 | nevcairiel | havent been doing random games anymore lately |
| 14:13.58 | Workfoz | I've been playing my coworkers mostly |
| 14:21.50 | Workfoz | looking good |
| 14:21.50 | Workfoz | :D |
| 14:34.11 | sb | i hate you :p |
| 14:36.11 | Repo | pyritestacks: 03electronicpunk * r17 PyriteStacks.toc: - TOC Update |
| 14:36.11 | Repo | - Also curious to see who is still downloading irrelevant add-ons! |
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| 14:41.34 | Workfoz | lol |
| 14:42.10 | Workfoz | guess someone was hit by the "project marked as inactive" sweep |
| 14:43.01 | Workfoz | (as did I, just too lazy to bump mine) |
| 14:43.56 | nevcairiel | i tagged one of mine and it didnt go away |
| 14:44.00 | nevcairiel | that reminds me to yell at someone |
| 14:44.54 | nevcairiel | also wtf is that crap, I can't use all rights reserved license anymore and still allow cloning |
| 14:45.00 | nevcairiel | stupid curse forcing things on me |
| 14:46.47 | nebula169 | yea, i noticed that, too |
| 14:48.03 | nebula169 | and setting the project to mature doesn't prevent it from going inactive ;[ |
| 14:48.15 | nevcairiel | i thought thats what its for |
| 14:48.43 | nevcairiel | i really dont want to keep tagging libs like callbackhandler or libstub, which are not even supported in standalone installs |
| 14:49.00 | nebula169 | blame Torhal! |
| 14:59.27 | Funkeh` | mature was just a longer timeout afaik |
| 14:59.38 | Funkeh` | like years |
| 15:00.19 | nevcairiel | i wonder if me manually setting it back to mature is enough to keep it from happening again for more years |
| 15:01.51 | quiescens | o.o |
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| 15:15.32 | Workfoz | ARR & cloning=yes are kind of opposed |
| 15:15.49 | Workfoz | at least if "cloning=yes" means anybody can just push the button and get a clone |
| 15:16.36 | Workfoz | (of course ARR would allow you to allow people to clone, but there's no system in place for that kind of, well, licensing) |
| 15:49.49 | nevcairiel | I can always write my own custom license |
| 15:53.04 | Timmeh | well, technically ARR doesn't mean you can't clone it, it just means you can't do anything with the clone :-P |
| 16:22.59 | quiescens | moo |
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| 19:09.36 | znf | huh, apparently we're paying $13.50/month for mumble hosting; that sounds kind of expensive for VoIP hosting :-? |
| 19:10.02 | nevcairiel | should use Antiarc's muble hosting thing, of which i forgot the name |
| 19:10.31 | Antiarc | mmo-mumble, or just run a server on your own VPS if you're a competent sysadmin! |
| 19:10.45 | Antiarc | murmur's free and not hard for single-server installs |
| 19:11.04 | znf | I do run it, we just had some arguments in the guild and we decided for neither to atually host it |
| 19:11.28 | znf | apparently I was a power driven tyrant for kicking someone who was spamming some songs |
| 19:11.40 | Antiarc | you tyrant you |
| 19:11.43 | Gnarfoz | how can you "spam" songs |
| 19:11.54 | znf | Gnarfoz, you know what I mean |
| 19:12.00 | znf | don't make me explain, I just woke up |
| 19:12.03 | Gnarfoz | I don't, would I be asking otherwise |
| 19:12.04 | nevcairiel | what does hosting have to do with admin |
| 19:12.09 | Gnarfoz | also, has murmur gotten rid of the whole client/server cert shebang |
| 19:12.13 | nevcairiel | i mean, even on another hosting service, still gotta have admins |
| 19:12.17 | Antiarc | nope, it still uses certs |
| 19:12.34 | znf | nevcairiel, well, they had an issue with me having total admin powers |
| 19:12.46 | nevcairiel | my server is kinda bored |
| 19:12.47 | znf | some retarded user went all "but you're recording out private conversations" |
| 19:12.52 | znf | I was like...wat? |
| 19:12.53 | nevcairiel | i should host a few instances |
| 19:12.55 | Antiarc | heh. |
| 19:13.17 | nevcairiel | although german people never have a mumble client installed, they all use teamspeak |
| 19:13.25 | znf | Antiarc, might want to update your "important notice" to 1.2.5 |
| 19:13.35 | znf | nevcairiel, I wish we would use teamspeak :( |
| 19:13.36 | Gnarfoz | teamspeak just has a way more polished UI |
| 19:13.44 | Antiarc | znf: 1.2.5 works as well, but the 1.2.3 -> 1.2.4 transition was the breaking change |
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| 19:13.56 | Antiarc | nevcairiel: it's pretty sensitive to dropped UDP packets and you need to bump your ulimits if you are gonna host a bunch, but it's pretty painless as long as you don't mind getting dirty with the CLI |
| 19:14.05 | Antiarc | compiling it is a giant PITA, but if you just use the binaries it's not bad |
| 19:14.14 | Gnarfoz | packetloss in europe? :> |
| 19:14.22 | Antiarc | the API bindings use ZeroC ICE which is a ginormous pain in the ass |
| 19:14.31 | nevcairiel | i use gentoo, i bet it has a package which compiles it for me =P |
| 19:15.12 | nevcairiel | (it does!) |
| 19:15.52 | znf | meh, too bad our guildies are too resistant to change, I would totally go back to teamspeak3 :-/ |
| 19:16.12 | nevcairiel | i hosted a TS3 for a while, but the group of people that used it kinda stopped, so i shut it down |
| 19:16.33 | Antiarc | my philosophy is that if you're paying for it, they'll use whatever you want. If you aren't, enjoy what someone else is paying for :P |
| 19:16.52 | znf | my ts3 server is still up |
| 19:16.58 | znf | vharr was using it for a while |
| 19:17.00 | Gnarfoz | yeah, you shouldn't underestimate the power of "the mumble server is gone, fuck you" |
| 19:17.31 | Antiarc | we moved from vent -> mumble because I was tired of paying for vent and had spare server capacity |
| 19:17.43 | Gnarfoz | and ts3 probably wasn't out of (or even in?) beta |
| 19:17.46 | Antiarc | so I spun up mumble, cancelled vent, and said "new info here, go do it" |
| 19:17.46 | Gnarfoz | at that time |
| 19:17.53 | Antiarc | people bitched and moaned for a week and then it was all good |
| 19:17.58 | nevcairiel | would you have switched to mumble if vent would let you host servers without jumping through hoops? |
| 19:18.02 | Gnarfoz | shows people are fucking lazy |
| 19:18.04 | Antiarc | Likely not |
| 19:18.09 | Gnarfoz | because vent is horrible |
| 19:18.20 | Antiarc | vent's licensing is really toxic |
| 19:18.22 | znf | vent blows |
| 19:18.24 | nevcairiel | its horrible that you cant just host it |
| 19:18.26 | Antiarc | which is what spurred me to find something else |
| 19:18.37 | Antiarc | I like CELT a lot more than speex, too |
| 19:18.40 | znf | the hosting is not even the biggest problem with vent, imho :P |
| 19:18.48 | Gnarfoz | it (at least used to) is also technically inferior ^^ |
| 19:18.49 | nevcairiel | never liked vent myself |
| 19:18.49 | Antiarc | And vent's 500ms audio buffer is really noticable up against mumble/ts3 |
| 19:19.07 | znf | the buffer, the crappy ui, no normalization |
| 19:19.20 | znf | I remember back when I used vent I had to adjust people's volumes all the time |
| 19:19.22 | Gnarfoz | does Mumble support Opus, too? |
| 19:19.23 | znf | was so annoying |
| 19:19.24 | nevcairiel | vent was luckily never really big in germany, everyone uses teamspeak, at least in mmo world |
| 19:19.26 | znf | Gnarfoz, yeah, since 1.2.4 |
| 19:19.29 | Gnarfoz | kk |
| 19:19.31 | Antiarc | Gnarfoz: I think it does now, yeah |
| 19:19.44 | nevcairiel | ts2 back in the day, ts3 now |
| 19:19.56 | Qube | anyone up for developing an addon? i will pay you monies of course. It's essentially a stripped down loot tracker with a few other little features thrown in. Just msg me if interested or whatever. (hopefully this is allowed to be asked here, if not just tell me to die and gtfo :P) |
| 19:20.02 | znf | servers are to supposedly check for OPUS support on clients and switch the room to OPUS or CELT, depending on how many they support |
| 19:20.33 | nevcairiel | znf: that sounds annoying as people are notoriously bad at updating |
| 19:20.37 | Gnarfoz | ts servers can just force you to update your client |
| 19:20.51 | znf | nevcairiel, well, "why can't I hear anything?!?!?" usually does the trick :D |
| 19:21.12 | Gnarfoz | which ts's mechanism avoids |
| 19:21.27 | nevcairiel | yeah it just yells at them before that happens :P |
| 19:21.42 | Gnarfoz | can't even connect when outdated |
| 19:21.42 | znf | what personally bugs me the most with mumble is the lack of an updated overlay |
| 19:21.51 | nevcairiel | but if all you do is voice, Opus is pretty much just CELT anyway |
| 19:22.06 | znf | no 64bit support, no dx11 :( |
| 19:22.10 | Qube | I've used Mumble for a while because it was the vent of Rift - so when I started playing Rift I started using mumble a lot more. I find that, for some reason, lots of people have issues with its client and sound just not working for some reason. I've never had an issue with mumble at all. |
| 19:22.11 | Gnarfoz | I should probably stop chatting while tanking |
| 19:22.18 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: nah, all is fine |
| 19:22.18 | Qube | Just recently switched to ts3, really like the client. |
| 19:22.25 | znf | just 32bit/dx9 and less |
| 19:22.36 | nevcairiel | znf: overlays are overrated |
| 19:22.40 | Stanzilla | ts3 master race |
| 19:22.44 | nevcairiel | put it on a second screen |
| 19:22.55 | znf | I won't look at the second screen when I'm playing! |
| 19:22.56 | nevcairiel | thats how i always used it :d |
| 19:22.59 | Qube | ts3 will give you a non profit license to host your own teamspeak server for free if you have a server or vps which was nice too |
| 19:23.05 | nevcairiel | after a while you know the voices, too! |
| 19:23.07 | Qube | (i know that mumble is free regardless, but still) |
| 19:23.16 | znf | nevcairiel, try recruiting 2-3 people every couple of weeks :P |
| 19:23.38 | Qube | so if you're looking for a cheap as fuck voice server just get a vps from www.digitalocean.com for $5 per month, and through a ts3 or mumble server on it |
| 19:23.39 | znf | I know more than half of the voices in our guild |
| 19:23.46 | Qube | you can host like 300 people on their basic $5 vps. |
| 19:23.49 | znf | but we have some new guys, I have no idea who they are until I look :D |
| 19:24.02 | nevcairiel | I miss the days of simply hanging around in guild voice all day with guys you knew for years |
| 19:24.03 | znf | has 2 digital oceans! |
| 19:24.04 | nevcairiel | oh well |
| 19:24.21 | Qube | yeah I love digital ocean |
| 19:24.21 | znf | I have one on AM1 and one on AM2 :P |
| 19:24.30 | znf | It's no Linode, but it's cheap *shrug* |
| 19:24.43 | Qube | i have a dedicated server for all of my major stuff, but I use digital ocean for nodejs apps and things like that |
| 19:24.54 | Qube | for the price + the auto backup its so affordable |
| 19:24.57 | nevcairiel | my classic guild was just special, never going to find anything like that /me enjoys memories |
| 19:25.11 | Qube | the only complaint I have about digital ocean is you can only have one IP |
| 19:25.28 | nevcairiel | IPs are rare |
| 19:25.33 | znf | nevcairiel, well, other than my period of when I was in Rabbit's guild, I have been in the same guild since ~2005 |
| 19:25.48 | znf | We used to chat a lot more on non-raid nights :P |
| 19:25.52 | znf | But we grew up : |
| 19:25.53 | znf | :( |
| 19:25.57 | nevcairiel | my guild died in wotlk |
| 19:26.04 | nevcairiel | and then i stopped playing |
| 19:26.19 | nevcairiel | and never really found a new connection when i came back for a while |
| 19:26.43 | znf | luckily my old gm came back, so he put us up together on another realm |
| 19:27.22 | nevcairiel | I tried to get a few old people back together for cata, and had a bunch that were willing to create something new, starting with 10man raiding and whatnot |
| 19:27.42 | nevcairiel | but last count was like 7 people, and it didnt work out in the end |
| 19:28.55 | Stanzilla | been with the same douches for years now |
| 19:28.59 | Stanzilla | TS is very active |
| 19:29.01 | Stanzilla | forums are not |
| 19:29.21 | Stanzilla | and we use skype a lot |
| 19:29.24 | nevcairiel | i've seen so many guilds that have big forums, but with like posts from 3 years ago |
| 19:29.24 | Stanzilla | big convo there |
| 19:29.38 | nevcairiel | seems to be a dead concept |
| 19:29.44 | nebula169 | i raided with the same guild for all of tbc and wotlk, people wandered off with cata, though |
| 19:29.47 | nevcairiel | why use skype and ts3? :d |
| 19:30.00 | Stanzilla | skype for writing |
| 19:30.07 | nevcairiel | oh |
| 19:30.21 | nebula169 | writing? |
| 19:30.28 | nevcairiel | you know, chatting |
| 19:30.35 | Primer | I dislike using skype because I don't like hearing people's moms and dogs |
| 19:30.50 | nevcairiel | cant you PTT it too |
| 19:30.59 | Stanzilla | sort of |
| 19:31.02 | Primer | and everyone that insists on skype usually doesn't know you can use vent/TS/mumble without PTT |
| 19:31.03 | Stanzilla | you can keybind the mute button |
| 19:31.03 | nebula169 | yea, no one does, though |
| 19:31.18 | nebula169 | skype is good quality, latency is terrible, though |
| 19:31.19 | Stanzilla | I don't mind the background noise most of the time |
| 19:31.33 | Primer | yes, I have the a dedicated keybind for muting skype |
| 19:31.50 | *** join/#wowace Fijit (~fijit@tweets.plus.com) |
| 19:31.57 | nevcairiel | i use skype a lot when playing games with a couple of local friends |
| 19:31.58 | Gnarfoz | still confused why people would want to use Skype over TS3 |
| 19:32.12 | nevcairiel | but thats only like 4 people or so |
| 19:32.26 | Stanzilla | today's google update day btw |
| 19:32.30 | Stanzilla | also GEL is finally being released |
| 19:32.31 | Primer | Gnarfoz: and I'm confused as to why people would use TS over mumble |
| 19:32.39 | *** join/#wowace Seerah (~RyanNL@adsl-74-226-101-231.mem.bellsouth.net) |
| 19:32.39 | Stanzilla | it's now called google now launcher |
| 19:32.40 | Gnarfoz | way better client |
| 19:32.57 | Primer | negative |
| 19:33.01 | znf | bitch, please |
| 19:33.06 | znf | Mumble's UI is so primitive |
| 19:33.14 | Primer | who the fuck cares about the UI? |
| 19:33.17 | Gnarfoz | < |
| 19:33.28 | Primer | I press a button (a foot pedal, actually), I talk, and that's it |
| 19:33.28 | znf | ACLs are still hard for people to figure in Mumble |
| 19:33.31 | Primer | I don't look at mumble |
| 19:33.46 | Primer | I just talk, and everyone sounds good |
| 19:33.49 | znf | Primer, sounds to me like you would be happy with a can and a string |
| 19:33.50 | nebula169 | i always laugh when i go into ts servers and there are hundreds of channels, with nesting like 10 deep |
| 19:33.50 | Primer | as in, equalized properly |
| 19:33.58 | Primer | znf: please |
| 19:34.17 | Primer | I've used all of vent, TS, skype, and mumble |
| 19:34.34 | Primer | I got into a pug the other day that was using vent. Sound equalization was terrible |
| 19:34.40 | Primer | even with the compressor turned on |
| 19:34.52 | Primer | then there were people telling me to "turn my outbound up" |
| 19:34.54 | nevcairiel | dont know about vent, but in TS3 it never was a issue for me |
| 19:34.55 | *** join/#wowace Yoshimo (~Miranda@2001:a60:2335:ac01:5da1:822a:6703:6378) |
| 19:34.55 | *** join/#wowace Yoshimo (~Miranda@unaffiliated/yoshimo) |
| 19:34.58 | nevcairiel | in TS2 it was still terrible |
| 19:35.02 | nevcairiel | but back then everything was |
| 19:35.08 | Primer | I confess, I haven't used TS3 much |
| 19:35.17 | Primer | but mumble has zero sound issues |
| 19:35.26 | znf | why would they have sound issues? |
| 19:35.27 | Primer | I've never once had to ask anyone to fix their sound |
| 19:35.29 | Stanzilla | ts3 has none either |
| 19:35.36 | Stanzilla | I just prefer ts3 because of the UI |
| 19:35.50 | Primer | I will concede that mumble's ACL system sucks |
| 19:35.52 | nevcairiel | biggest issues i've seen is people using their front mic ports, which are always terribly distorted |
| 19:35.54 | Primer | it's hard to understand |
| 19:35.55 | znf | both ts3 and mumble are what I would refferr to as "modern" :P |
| 19:36.02 | nevcairiel | need to sell more people on usb headsets |
| 19:36.05 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: mine isn't :o |
| 19:36.08 | znf | nevcairiel, yes! |
| 19:36.11 | znf | usb headsets <3 |
| 19:36.24 | Primer | I have a dedicated USB mic |
| 19:36.29 | Primer | which sits on my desk |
| 19:36.35 | znf | people always laugh when I suggest them a usb gaming headset, wtf is wrong with people? |
| 19:36.49 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: I don't know if mine is (anymore), but it used to be terrible in one of my old comps, presumably because the cable passes the CPU/GPU and one of those gives off bad distortions |
| 19:37.05 | znf | TS3 can do password channels! |
| 19:37.13 | nevcairiel | was fine when you used the back mic port |
| 19:37.47 | Primer | I also run the mumble server for my guild, which also happens to service a former guild too |
| 19:38.15 | Primer | I have it setup to allow more bandwidth for higher quality bit rates |
| 19:38.22 | Primer | plus it's free! |
| 19:38.31 | Primer | don't have to worry about licenses and shit |
| 19:38.32 | znf | so is ts3 :P |
| 19:38.34 | Gnarfoz | as is ts3 |
| 19:38.37 | *** join/#wowace Yoshimo (~Miranda@2001:a60:2335:ac01:5da1:822a:6703:6378) |
| 19:38.37 | *** join/#wowace Yoshimo (~Miranda@unaffiliated/yoshimo) |
| 19:38.42 | znf | get a community license, 100 slot for free |
| 19:38.51 | Gnarfoz | 512 you mean |
| 19:38.56 | znf | oh, it's 512 now? |
| 19:39.00 | Gnarfoz | always has been |
| 19:39.02 | Primer | It wasn't like that before |
| 19:39.06 | Gnarfoz | it was. |
| 19:39.09 | znf | could have sworn mine said 100 when I got it |
| 19:39.17 | Primer | I recall it had a much smaller amount |
| 19:39.30 | Primer | but perhaps that was in TS2. Like I said, I haven't used TS in a long time |
| 19:39.30 | nevcairiel | vent is like 5 people or something :D |
| 19:39.34 | Primer | 8 |
| 19:39.46 | Primer | but I think we all agree vent sucks |
| 19:40.23 | Gnarfoz | that's a consensus |
| 19:40.23 | znf | raidcall > vent, please |
| 19:40.31 | Gnarfoz | wtf is raidcall, even |
| 19:40.41 | znf | some chinese thingie |
| 19:40.42 | Gnarfoz | somebody threw some money at one of these shitty esport leagues to promote it |
| 19:40.44 | znf | it's quite nice, actually |
| 19:40.53 | znf | it's server-less |
| 19:40.54 | Gnarfoz | that's the only reason people have even heard of it, I guess |
| 19:41.03 | Gnarfoz | if it's p2p, it CAN'T be nice |
| 19:41.06 | nevcairiel | server less only causes issues |
| 19:41.22 | nevcairiel | either you select an implicit server, or its p2p |
| 19:41.28 | znf | actually I'm not sure how it is |
| 19:41.31 | nebula169 | isn't skype p2p? |
| 19:41.32 | nevcairiel | both have serious downsides over a dedicated server |
| 19:41.32 | znf | I heard rumours about if being p2p |
| 19:41.41 | Primer | heh, I just did apt-get install teamspeak-client |
| 19:41.44 | Primer | and it's 2.x |
| 19:41.48 | Gnarfoz | are you surprised? |
| 19:41.53 | Primer | I guess not |
| 19:41.59 | Gnarfoz | I'm actually surprised that worked |
| 19:41.59 | nevcairiel | they may have a package with a 3 in the name |
| 19:42.04 | Gnarfoz | very unlikely |
| 19:42.07 | Gnarfoz | not with its license |
| 19:42.17 | Gnarfoz | I'm confused ts2 is even in there |
| 19:42.23 | znf | Why would my dwm.exe use 10% CPU, wtf |
| 19:42.39 | Gnarfoz | Debian are hardasses about everything being non-restrictively licensed |
| 19:42.44 | nevcairiel | znf: 10% of your cpu is like 2 calculations a minute |
| 19:42.50 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: might be buntu |
| 19:42.55 | Gnarfoz | true |
| 19:43.02 | znf | I should uninstall AeroGlass |
| 19:43.07 | Gnarfoz | or additional repositories |
| 19:43.31 | znf | oh, yeah, that was it, heh |
| 19:43.31 | nevcairiel | googling for ts3 ubuntu gives me a page that instructs you to download from the official website though |
| 19:43.46 | Gnarfoz | I thought "AeroGlass is 100% GPU" ;) |
| 19:43.49 | nevcairiel | so guess not |
| 19:44.30 | znf | Gnarfoz, apparently not |
| 19:44.36 | Primer | heh TS3 on linux includes every library dep with it |
| 19:44.48 | Primer | I guess that's better than a static binary |
| 19:44.55 | Stanzilla | google updates so far: drive, hangouts, maps and soon launcher |
| 19:44.58 | nevcairiel | same end result really |
| 19:45.06 | znf | Why is it better than static? |
| 19:45.08 | znf | I'd rather have it static |
| 19:45.11 | znf | likes static things |
| 19:45.44 | znf | the ts3 server comes with ts3server_linux_x86 ts3server_minimal_runscript.sh ts3server_startscript.sh |
| 19:45.49 | Gnarfoz | Primer: n.b.: nobody here is saying the ts3 developers are geniuses... they're pretty dumb :p |
| 19:45.53 | znf | and you're, like, "which one to run?" |
| 19:46.01 | Gnarfoz | znf: only if you can't README |
| 19:46.04 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: you're just saying that because they dont fix your issues! |
| 19:46.17 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: they include an old libc instead of fixing their issue |
| 19:46.22 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 19:46.37 | znf | What's the advantage of shipping it with every library over having it statically compiled? |
| 19:46.44 | Gnarfoz | none |
| 19:46.51 | znf | So it should just be static... |
| 19:46.54 | Gnarfoz | no |
| 19:46.59 | Gnarfoz | why |
| 19:46.59 | znf | no silly start-up scripts! |
| 19:46.59 | nevcairiel | there is no big advantage to that either |
| 19:47.01 | znf | Gnarfoz, why? |
| 19:47.11 | Gnarfoz | the startup script is not one of the dependencies |
| 19:47.19 | Gnarfoz | and has nothing to do with static/shared |
| 19:47.34 | Primer | Gnarfoz: I can understand not wanting to package it for 100 distros |
| 19:47.38 | nevcairiel | the startup script has to do some s pecial things to get shared to work though |
| 19:47.49 | Gnarfoz | that you would even think linking their binary statically would have any effect on the start script shows you don't know what you're saying >_> |
| 19:47.49 | znf | Gnarfoz, well, their script sets $LIBRARYBATH, unless you set it manually you can't really run it by simply doing ./binary |
| 19:47.50 | nevcairiel | ie set LD path |
| 19:48.04 | nevcairiel | but whats wrong with running a script |
| 19:48.07 | Gnarfoz | nothing |
| 19:48.07 | Primer | it's just LD_LIBRARY_PATH |
| 19:48.11 | Primer | that's all |
| 19:48.15 | znf | Gnarfoz, I'm talking from an end-user perspective |
| 19:48.21 | Gnarfoz | Primer: well, of course, but they should simply unfuck their shit |
| 19:48.25 | nevcairiel | end users are all morons |
| 19:48.28 | Gnarfoz | they didn't USE to include libc |
| 19:48.30 | nevcairiel | you need to document what to do anyway |
| 19:48.36 | nevcairiel | so might as well tell them to run a script |
| 19:48.38 | Gnarfoz | they changed something and said "NONONO CAN'T REVERT" |
| 19:48.39 | Primer | Gnarfoz: but that's hard! |
| 19:49.36 | znf | I need to go hunt in my fridge for food |
| 19:50.00 | nevcairiel | mm i should get a piece of cake |
| 19:50.32 | Stanzilla | +newsstand |
| 19:51.39 | Gnarfoz | meh, it's no fun IRCing when you can't reply to half the shit that's being said |
| 19:51.55 | Stanzilla | too much ignore list? |
| 19:52.06 | Gnarfoz | ? |
| 19:52.13 | Stanzilla | or what are you refering too |
| 19:52.17 | Gnarfoz | read it again |
| 19:52.19 | Gnarfoz | you'll figure it out |
| 19:52.39 | Stanzilla | nope |
| 19:52.44 | nevcairiel | still too busy tanking? |
| 19:52.46 | Gnarfoz | yep |
| 19:52.57 | Gnarfoz | dark shaman now |
| 19:53.03 | Gnarfoz | lots of time now ;) |
| 19:53.04 | nevcairiel | heroic? |
| 19:53.10 | Gnarfoz | yeah |
| 19:53.14 | Stanzilla | heroic aka afk in corner |
| 19:53.29 | nevcairiel | i dont know shit about heroic stategies for this tier |
| 19:54.15 | Stanzilla | https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-V_20XAqZEQ8/UvJuUyEE8LI/AAAAAAABPis/yT0aA7QY7BE/w1577-h645-no/Screenshot+from+2014-02-05+11%253A29%253A31.png |
| 19:54.28 | nevcairiel | And i'm still undecided if i want to again, but l uckily still plenty month before i have to arrive at a decision |
| 19:55.31 | nevcairiel | Wonder if they'll really bump all non-mythic to 30, that would be kinda good |
| 19:55.40 | Gnarfoz | hahahaha |
| 19:55.43 | Gnarfoz | they despawned |
| 19:55.49 | Gnarfoz | at like 40% |
| 19:55.49 | Gnarfoz | what |
| 19:55.51 | nevcairiel | did they leave loot? |
| 19:56.01 | Gnarfoz | per usual, no :( |
| 19:57.25 | Stanzilla | we had that last week too |
| 19:57.28 | Stanzilla | happens with the corner |
| 19:57.33 | nevcairiel | anyhow, ima go watch some tv now |
| 20:05.55 | nebula169 | the tiles on the ground can make them evade |
| 20:07.52 | nebula169 | actually, i don't think i've seen them despawn, but the bosses will get stuck and just teleport the tank to them |
| 20:07.54 | Gnarfoz | we didn't move |
| 20:07.57 | Gnarfoz | was probably the other group |
| 20:11.19 | Stanzilla | https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-pfDSyQyGJXw/UvKawrsc8vI/AAAAAAAAetw/7E1gofuHrgg/w506-h810/2014-02-05+20.07.25.png |
| 20:13.11 | Stanzilla | New search apk added another column to the GEL (or GNL) on my N7(13). It also fixed the bug where the right icon/folder would get deleted from the bottom icon/folder/app drawer row |
| 20:14.27 | Stanzilla | http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/02/05/google-search-updated-to-v3-2-meet-the-google-now-launcher/ |
| 20:18.41 | Stanzilla | also chrome dev update just now |
| 20:18.44 | Stanzilla | MAN SO MANY UPDATES |
| 20:18.47 | Stanzilla | is happy |
| 20:19.21 | Stanzilla | that chrome update brings out of process pdf plugin for example |
| 20:23.25 | znf | How do we call out of process plugins? ppapi? |
| 20:24.34 | nevcairiel | ppapi is already taken |
| 20:25.13 | znf | so this pdf thingie is not pepper thingie? |
| 20:26.02 | znf | oh, wait, ppapi can be in-process and out-of-process |
| 20:26.36 | Stanzilla | correct |
| 20:26.45 | Stanzilla | currently the ppapi pdf plugin is in process |
| 20:27.21 | znf | then I'm confused as to the purpose of ppapi, thought all ppapi is out-of-process :( |
| 20:28.04 | Stanzilla | ppapi is inside the sandbox |
| 20:28.42 | Stanzilla | and just the name for the new plugin architexture |
| 20:29.44 | Stanzilla | so this happens when I disable my adblocker for a second https://mediacru.sh/8cXNQ9pYu2Rr.png (NSFW) |
| 20:32.30 | Gnarfoz | they knows you so well |
| 20:32.33 | Gnarfoz | -s |
| 20:32.45 | nevcairiel | these days ads show you what you desire |
| 20:33.02 | Stanzilla | I really don't think that girl is ugly though |
| 20:33.04 | Stanzilla | from what I can see |
| 20:33.24 | nevcairiel | you mean from up her ass? |
| 20:33.31 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 20:33.35 | Stanzilla | and the little bit of face |
| 20:34.58 | Repo | alts: 03talryn1 07master * 1.2-2-g507c7aa Alts.lua: [+2 commits] |
| 20:34.59 | Repo | 507c7aa: * Add new matching for "<name> alt" * Improve the match method generation and configuration. |
| 20:34.59 | Repo | 966994d: Add option to report guild changes via the Guild Log window. |
| 20:35.44 | Gnarfoz | it'd be a pretty crappy porn ad if the girls were fugly |
| 20:38.17 | Stanzilla | but it advertises ugly girls |
| 20:38.22 | Stanzilla | like omas von der müllhalde |
| 20:41.53 | znf | from the garbage dump?! |
| 20:42.23 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 20:42.40 | nevcairiel | still too much class for stan |
| 20:44.18 | Stanzilla | rude |
| 20:45.42 | znf | Stanzilla, is it just me or adblock performance has been really shit in the last ~2 weeks? |
| 20:47.47 | Stanzilla | znf: that was because of a change in chrome that has since been disabled though |
| 20:48.24 | znf | I still see "waiting for extension Adblock" even after that revert |
| 20:48.29 | znf | I mean, more often |
| 20:48.52 | Gnarfoz | spoilzzz |
| 20:49.09 | Talryn | Is the packager running properly? |
| 20:49.18 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: easy boss |
| 20:49.27 | Stanzilla | znf: yeah I sometimes have to reload pages for adblock to kick in |
| 20:58.29 | Gnarfoz | if you've got the DPS and have a proper opening sequence down that you can handle |
| 20:58.32 | Gnarfoz | it's fine |
| 20:59.26 | Gnarfoz | hmmm |
| 20:59.47 | Gnarfoz | apparently my working copies are so old that there's been a UUID change by now |
| 21:01.47 | nevcairiel | yeah there was a reset once because the server admin was asleep on the job |
| 21:07.06 | znf | Stanzilla, do you get logged out of warcraftlogs.com often, too? |
| 21:07.42 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 21:09.45 | znf | wonder if it's a bug or he just clears the sessions often on the server-side |
| 21:10.31 | Stanzilla | ask him |
| 21:16.29 | znf | Stanzilla, wish xCT could have a *bit* more options |
| 21:16.57 | znf | like sending a specific spell (say Halo) to the crit display |
| 21:18.03 | Stanzilla | that would confuse me |
| 21:18.19 | Stanzilla | also tick "merge crits with themselves" or whatever its called |
| 21:19.43 | znf | I did that |
| 21:20.30 | Stanzilla | my guild's getting fast |
| 21:20.36 | Stanzilla | already cleared soo for this week |
| 21:29.10 | Gnarfoz | we did 10/14 in 2.4 hours or so |
| 21:29.38 | Gnarfoz | then we stood around for a bit while people chained AFKs |
| 21:29.52 | Gnarfoz | then stood around a bit more while adjusting Thok CD rotation |
| 21:29.54 | Gnarfoz | ;p |
| 21:32.22 | znf | Stanzilla, how can he not see the reasoning? :P |
| 21:32.32 | znf | look at individual boss -> only ranks for that boss; all bosses -> all ranks |
| 21:32.39 | Stanzilla | yeah dunno |
| 21:34.33 | Talryn | Is there no longer a way to check the packager status? |
| 21:36.20 | znf | Stanzilla, would the healer and dps amp trinkets stack? |
| 21:37.56 | znf | also, wat? http://i.imgur.com/mTOkCug.png |
| 21:37.56 | znf | :o |
| 21:38.28 | Gnarfoz | WCL logs me out all the time, too |
| 21:38.34 | Gnarfoz | even worse than wowhead |
| 21:38.34 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 21:38.43 | Gnarfoz | wowhead problem was only in Chrome though |
| 21:38.56 | Gnarfoz | wonder WCL does it with Firefox, too |
| 21:39.01 | Gnarfoz | grrr Thok! |
| 21:39.10 | Gnarfoz | annoy-o-saurus |
| 21:39.11 | znf | Gnarfoz, but I can't reproduce it :P |
| 21:39.14 | znf | the logging out |
| 21:39.20 | Gnarfoz | huh? |
| 21:39.28 | Gnarfoz | just visit the page after a day |
| 21:39.31 | Gnarfoz | you'll be logged out |
| 21:39.42 | Gnarfoz | my login doesn't even stick for like 2 hours |
| 21:40.13 | Stanzilla | znf: the amp stacks but the healer ones does not proc |
| 21:40.26 | znf | ofc |
| 21:40.36 | znf | so, wouldn't it be better than my toxic totem? :-? |
| 21:40.38 | znf | I need to sim tis |
| 21:40.39 | znf | tis |
| 21:40.42 | znf | this |
| 21:40.43 | znf | wtf |
| 21:45.52 | Megalon | sim tis, sim tat |
| 21:46.17 | Stanzilla | just yell timber |
| 21:54.18 | znf | why the hell can't I move the raid frames more than that? >_< http://i.imgur.com/60pDvqt.png |
| 21:54.21 | znf | to the right, I mean |
| 21:54.40 | znf | like there's another "virtual" hidden collumn at the end |
| 21:57.00 | Stanzilla | clamp to screen + padding |
| 21:57.34 | znf | but there's padding only to the right, I don't get why :P |
| 21:57.46 | Repo | alts: 03talryn1 07master * 1.2-3-g140dcbb Alts.lua: [+1 commit] Add comment. |
| 21:57.50 | nevcairiel | clamp to screen results in such weirdness |
| 21:57.51 | znf | oh, and at the bottom |
| 21:58.57 | Megalon | that's a paddlin' |
| 22:05.31 | Gnarfoz | certainly sounds like clamp to screen |
| 22:06.10 | znf | ah, I fixed |
| 22:06.21 | znf | I made the frames 40px, moved to the right, then increased it back to 50px :P |
| 22:08.24 | Megalon | sneaky |
| 22:09.02 | Gnarfoz | :( THok |
| 22:09.11 | Gnarfoz | didn't want to fall over |
| 22:09.14 | nevcairiel | you no like thok? |
| 22:09.27 | Gnarfoz | thok hc is blergh |
| 22:09.37 | nevcairiel | thok is kinda blerg on any difficulty |
| 22:09.40 | Stanzilla | glad they nerfed it |
| 22:09.45 | Gnarfoz | but it'been mostly our fault tonight |
| 22:12.03 | znf | I actually like Thok |
| 22:12.07 | znf | it's fun to run around :P |
| 22:14.11 | znf | Hmm. The way the AMR addon version check runs is kind of weird. I think the client waits for the addon to write it's saved variables .lua then it compares the version of the SV with what's current |
| 22:18.37 | znf | (so the actual "your addon is outdated" doesn't run until you quit the game or reload ui) |
| 22:19.43 | znf | (also, why didn't they make the damn client remember the u/p?!) |
| 22:19.47 | znf | or keep you logged on |
| 22:19.57 | znf | not like you're going to change the username often... |
| 22:29.07 | znf | Oh. That explains it, they've discontinued the client |
| 22:34.30 | Gnarfoz | ... ;p |
| 22:38.44 | Funkeh` | welcome to steam music beta |
| 22:38.48 | Funkeh` | woot Stanzilla |
| 22:39.10 | Stanzilla | hi |
| 22:41.40 | Megalon | u wot m8 |
| 22:42.36 | znf | http://www.wowhead.com/spell=73324 <-- this means that I can detect the locket from an actual mage portal, right? |
| 22:46.49 | Gnarfoz | znf: http://www.wowhead.com/spell=53142#comments summons the same object |
| 22:46.56 | Gnarfoz | as this http://www.wowhead.com/spell=73324#used-by-item |
| 22:47.13 | Gnarfoz | i.e. you can tell the spells apart |
| 22:47.15 | Gnarfoz | but not the objects |
| 22:47.28 | Gnarfoz | (but I don't think there's a way to get at the object ids ingame, anyway, is there?) |
| 22:47.57 | znf | the spell is what I needed :) |
| 22:48.06 | znf | no there isn't a way to get object ids |
| 22:48.21 | znf | also, is there something wrong with the wowace repo thingie? |
| 22:48.23 | znf | can't commit |
| 22:49.31 | Repo | dont-bug-me: 03gnarfoz * r52 DontBugMe.toc: Unsurprisingly, this still works. *dusts off* |
| 22:49.38 | Gnarfoz | I'd say... it works :P |
| 22:49.58 | Repo | plantaindkp: 03znuff * r59 PlantainDKP.lua: |
| 22:49.58 | Repo | Added Jaina's Locket to the Penalty List because someone can't keep it in his pants. |
| 22:50.50 | Stanzilla | http://people.mozilla.org/~jwein/in-content-prefs-specs.png |
| 22:50.53 | Gnarfoz | what |
| 22:51.44 | znf | did warcraftlogs.com get featured somewhere? |
| 22:52.39 | Gnarfoz | no idea, but what's that commit about xD |
| 22:54.12 | Repo | dont-bug-me: 03gnarfoz 042.8 * r53 : Tagging as 2.8. Almost 3 years later... still works! :P |
| 22:55.12 | Stanzilla | pretty funny to see all those commits to ass old problems |
| 22:55.23 | Stanzilla | knowing they all got a mail :D |
| 22:58.55 | Gnarfoz | problim? |
| 22:58.56 | Gnarfoz | :O |
| 22:58.59 | Gnarfoz | I guess you meant projects |
| 23:00.13 | znf | that addon is actually a good idea |
| 23:00.26 | znf | gets the .code and throws it in devpad |
| 23:02.54 | Stanzilla | yes Gnarfoz |
| 23:03.01 | Stanzilla | talking + writing is too much for my small brain |
| 23:05.17 | Torhal | embiggens Stanzilla's brain. |
| 23:06.13 | Gnarfoz | I bet you subtly neglected to increase his skull size to match |
| 23:09.44 | Megalon | migranezilla |
| 23:11.15 | znf | F# looks interestingly simple |
| 23:12.05 | Gnarfoz | bleh |
| 23:12.12 | Gnarfoz | I'd have to check if the other addons actually still work |
| 23:12.13 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
| 23:14.05 | znf | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sy3b6pEroJw |
| 23:14.12 | znf | yay! |
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| 23:14.32 | znf | we get featured somewhere! |
| 23:17.33 | Gnarfoz | how are Romanian roads, in general? |
| 23:17.44 | Stanzilla | flat |
| 23:19.04 | Repo | combat-timer: 03gnarfoz 041.3 * 06453cd /: [new tag, +1 commits] I'd be surprised if this doesn't still work. |
| 23:19.10 | znf | Gnarfoz, depending on the area |
| 23:19.21 | znf | we have decent roads around my area |
| 23:19.25 | znf | they're terrible in bucharest |
| 23:19.57 | znf | but, to get an idea, we have like under 500km of highway in the whole country... |
| 23:20.37 | znf | crossing the country from east to west takes about ~12 hours driving |
| 23:21.46 | Gnarfoz | hm, what kind of roads are the rest? country roads? unpaved? oO |
| 23:22.56 | znf | normal asphalt |
| 23:23.06 | znf | but they're in a terrible condition |
| 23:23.15 | znf | and some of them are too narrow |
| 23:23.28 | znf | plus, a lot of them go trough villages with a speed limit of 50km/h |
| 23:24.56 | znf | they've only recently (like in the last year) started to up the speed limit (to 70km/h) in some of these towns that happen to have a national road pass trough them |
| 23:27.52 | znf | we just suck at making roads, badly; we are crappy at absoring european funds |
| 23:28.11 | znf | and when we build roads we somehow manage to build them at double or triple the cost that other countries are doing it |
| 23:28.24 | Gnarfoz | oh you're probably good at absorbing them, they just don't get used for something useful ;p |
| 23:28.43 | znf | actually we aren't... our absorbtion rate is horrible |
| 23:28.56 | Megalon | i bet .ro absorbs funds like a 2$whore absorbs cock |
| 23:28.59 | Megalon | coke |
| 23:29.04 | Gnarfoz | both |
| 23:29.05 | Megalon | cock too, though |
| 23:29.38 | Gnarfoz | also, I just meant that for each road to be built, there's probably 5 officials who could use a new car, or a new house, or... etc |
| 23:29.41 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 23:29.45 | Gnarfoz | corruption! \o/ |
| 23:30.04 | Gnarfoz | time for Top Gear |
| 23:30.47 | Megalon | it's the stig's teenage cousin! |
| 23:31.18 | znf | Gnarfoz, http://insideurope.eu/taxonomy/term/35 |
| 23:31.20 | znf | see the graph |
| 23:31.22 | znf | oh wait, it changes |
| 23:31.23 | znf | :D |
| 23:31.30 | znf | http://insideurope.eu/sites/default/files/banner/absorptions_rates_info_13jun%20%289%29.jpg |
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| 23:33.56 | znf | Gnarfoz, general consensus is that because our politicians can't make a buck out of those deals with european funds, they don't push towards using the money... |
| 23:34.58 | Gnarfoz | I guess "absorption" has a special meaning in this context that I'm not understanding |
| 23:35.22 | Gnarfoz | some say. |
| 23:35.23 | Gnarfoz | ;] |
| 23:35.58 | znf | it is my understanding that the EU allocates a certain amount of money (ie: european funds) that each country can get |
| 23:36.37 | Gnarfoz | hmm, they got rid of the "tonight... james does a X, richard drives a Y, and I do Z" part in the intro |
| 23:36.50 | znf | like, this: http://ec.europa.eu/regional_policy/thefunds/funding/index_en.cfm |
| 23:37.23 | znf | but they don't straight out give you the money saying "here, have this money, go wild on hookers and drugs" |
| 23:38.30 | znf | You have to have some very well documented project which they have to approve, pass trough some procedures etc. |
| 23:38.52 | znf | so in this case, absortion rate is how much of those funds you managet to actually spend |
| 23:39.02 | znf | They are mostly supposed to be used for "regional development" |
| 23:39.22 | znf | Or, at least, that's what we should really push towards, as a country... |
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| 23:46.52 | znf | Stanzilla, any chance you could understan AMR's export string format thingie? |
| 23:47.12 | Stanzilla | don't want to try now! |
| 23:47.49 | znf | I want to "inject" a trinket I don't have :P |
| 23:48.17 | Gnarfoz | it's just a regular itemstring, isn't it |
| 23:49.08 | znf | what's an itemstring? |
| 23:49.16 | znf | oh wait |
| 23:49.18 | znf | no, it's not |
| 23:49.29 | znf | an itemstring has /at least/ the item id in it, right? :) |
| 23:55.01 | znf | they somehow compress the string :) |
